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EP379 Jake Luhrs of August Burns Red Talks 20 Years, Seasons of Surrender, Vocal Technique & Touring21 Aug 202600:49:59

Jake Luhrs of August Burns Red joins Tom on And Now The Band for a conversation about Seasons of Surrender, August Burns Red's 20-year career, songwriting, authenticity, vocal technique, live performance, touring, and maintaining creative chemistry after decades together.

Jake explains how August Burns Red approached Seasons of Surrender with the goal of creating the best version of an August Burns Red record rather than chasing trends or making a drastic stylistic departure.

He discusses the band's creative process, rewriting songs and endings, pushing one another in the studio, and developing the trust necessary to accept criticism from bandmates.

Jake and Tom also compare the new album with Death Below, discussing how the darker and more progressive character of that record reflected the COVID era while Seasons of Surrender represents the band embracing who they are while continuing to evolve.

The conversation covers authenticity, songwriting, collaboration, audience connection, live performance, vocal technique, touring, and longevity.

Jake shares the story behind developing the low vocal technique required for "Legions", including working with vocal coach David Benitez, and explains how he prepares his voice for touring and live performances.

The episode also explores what it takes to keep a band healthy after 20 years: trust, humility, honest criticism, compromise, personal relationships, and the willingness to keep challenging yourself.

Topics include: August Burns Red, Jake Luhrs, Seasons of Surrender, Death Below, metalcore, songwriting, vocal technique, "Legions," "Sonic Salvation," touring, live performance, audience engagement, vocal health, and 20 years of August Burns Red.

EP378 Sebastian of God Mother Talks Kottvarld, 15 Years of Music, Touring & Underground Metal17 Aug 202600:50:12

Sebastian of God Mother joins Tom on And Now The Band to discuss the band's massive new album Kottvarld, 15 years of God Mother, recording across multiple studios, international touring, handmade merchandise, and the importance of maintaining genuine connections within the underground music community.


After nearly two years of work, God Mother are preparing to release Kottvarld, a massive album that represents a significant new chapter for the band. Sebastian explains the band's unique recording process, which involved multiple studios, including an iconic drum-recording facility where ABBA previously recorded.


Sebastian also discusses the extensive network of people behind God Mother. After roughly 15 years together, the band has built a support system that extends far beyond the four members, including family, friends, engineers, PR support, and other collaborators. From recording in Daniel's father's basement to working with Michael as the band's sound engineer, that community has played an important role in helping God Mother create their music.


As a graphic designer, Sebastian is also heavily involved in the band's visual identity, including album artwork, merchandise, and handmade designs. He shares the story of creating a limited-edition Stanley Kubrick-inspired poster at a show that became so meaningful to one fan that they traveled from Canada specifically to purchase it.


Tom and Sebastian explore how merchandise can become more than something fans buy at a concert—it can become a physical reminder of a particular show, band, or moment in someone's life.


The conversation also covers God Mother's experiences playing major venues, including Terminal 5 in New York, where they encountered fans and notable musicians including Mike Patton.

Topics discussed include:

God Mother's new album Kottvarld

Two years of work behind the record

God Mother's 15-year history

Recording across multiple studios

An iconic studio where ABBA recorded

Recording in Daniel's father's basement

Michael's role as engineer

Sebastian's graphic design work

Album artwork and merchandise

Handmade concert merchandise

Stanley Kubrick-inspired artwork

Building relationships with fans

Terminal 5 in New York

Meeting Mike Patton


European touringUK and Scandinavian shows

The challenges of touring the United States

International visa and touring issues

Stockholm's Cyclops venue

Introducing children to heavy music

Metallica and Motörhead

God Mother's 2013 Central America tour

Spotify and music discovery

The importance of underground music communities

Future touring plans

Sebastian and Tom also discuss the changing live-music environment and why personal interaction between bands and fans remains one of the most important aspects of underground music.


For fans of God Mother, experimental metal, hardcore, extreme music, Swedish metal, underground music, and international heavy music, EP378 provides an inside look at the band's creative process, their new album Kottvarld, and the community that has helped sustain God Mother for more than a decade.


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EP377 IATT's Black Metal Rock Opera Alec Talks Etheric Realms of the Night, Insomnia & Thunderflix14 Aug 202601:00:27

Alec of IATT joins Tom on And Now The Band to discuss IATT's ambitious concept album Etheric Realms of the Night, the psychology of sleep and insomnia, and the band's incredible feature-length black metal rock opera film now available through Thunderflix.

Etheric Realms of the Night explores the different stages of sleep and the psychological experiences surrounding them, including insomnia, sleep deprivation, somniphobia, and the human mind. Alec explains how IATT approaches songwriting through extensive research and discussion of psychology, allowing the album's themes to influence both the music and the band's larger visual presentation.

The conversation goes much deeper when Alec discusses the 18-month process of creating IATT's feature-length black metal rock opera film. Created independently and largely self-financed by Alec and his team, the film was produced on a shoestring budget and combines IATT's music with cinematic storytelling without traditional dialogue.

Alec draws on his background in film school and music-video production to explain how the project came together, the enormous amount of time invested in it, and the self-doubt that comes with spending more than 500 hours on an ambitious creative project.

The film premiered in Philadelphia before being released on Thunderflix, and Alec discusses plans for film-festival submissions, a potential special-edition DVD/CD release, behind-the-scenes material, and the possibility of eventually presenting the film with a live pit-orchestra-style performance.

Tom and Alec also discuss:

  • IATT's Etheric Realms of the Night
  • Black metal and concept albums
  • Sleep, insomnia and somniphobia
  • The psychology behind IATT's music
  • IATT's feature-length black metal film
  • Black metal rock operas
  • Thunderflix
  • Independent filmmaking
  • Film school and music-video production
  • Spending 500+ hours on a creative project
  • Overcoming self-doubt
  • Album artwork and visual storytelling
  • Vinyl, CDs and physical music
  • Black Lion Records
  • Envima Records
  • The importance of the complete album experience
  • Streaming vs. physical music
  • IATT's upcoming West Coast tour
  • Narcotic Wasteland
  • Future live screenings and performances
  • The future of IATT

Alec also talks about "Walk Amongst," one of his favorite IATT songs to perform, including the possibility of incorporating live saxophone into future performances.

The episode closes with discussion of IATT's upcoming touring plans, including their September West Coast tour, a show with Narcotic Wasteland, and the possibility of bringing their film to Louisville for a special screening and live event.

If you're a fan of black metal, extreme metal, concept albums, experimental music, independent filmmaking, psychological horror, or ambitious DIY music projects, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

EP376 Behind the Board with Mario Quintero | Spotlights, Pallbearer, Shiner & More10 Aug 202601:02:43

Tom sits down with recording engineer, producer, and mixer Mario Quintero for a deep conversation about three decades of recording music, the evolution of digital production, and the philosophy behind creating massive yet authentic-sounding records.

Mario discusses his work with bands including Spotlights, Pallbearer, Hiroe, Shiner, Amblare, Moon Destroys, and Bunuel, explaining how his approach to recording has evolved throughout his career. Rather than relying on endless processing or technical tricks, Mario emphasizes the importance of the song, the performance, and finding the right balance between instruments.

After beginning his recording journey with ADAT machines and eventually moving into Pro Tools, Mario explains how the transition from analog recording to modern digital production changed the way musicians and engineers work. He describes how today's musicians have access to an unprecedented amount of information and learning resources, allowing them to develop their skills faster than previous generations.

Mario also explains his "less is more" approach to production and how, over the last decade, he has moved away from heavily manipulating individual tracks toward creating space, balance, and interaction between instruments.

Additional topics include:

  • Mario's 30-year recording career

  • Engineering, mixing, mastering, and production

  • Working with Spotlights and Pallbearer

  • Hiroe and long-term musical relationships

  • Shiner and the pressure of working with established bands

  • Amblare and the Brian St. Pair recording

  • Moon Destroys

  • Bunuel with Eugene Robinson

  • Working with smaller independent bands

  • Analog recording and ADAT

  • The transition to Pro Tools

  • Modern digital recording techniques

  • Why "less is more" can produce better records

  • Balancing huge production with live energy

  • Mixing and mastering

  • Translating studio recordings to live performances

  • Getting musicians to think about the band as a complete unit

Mario shares how being both a musician and engineer allows him to work backward from a desired sonic result, often envisioning the final record while creating demos. He also discusses the challenge of remaining objective when you're deeply involved in every stage of a project and the importance of having trusted people who will provide honest, unfiltered feedback.

The conversation goes beyond recording technology and into the psychology of making records. Mario explains why producers need to help musicians understand their role within the overall arrangement rather than focusing exclusively on their individual parts. He discusses overplaying, excessive effects, the importance of space, and why emotional impact ultimately matters more than technical perfection.

Mario also talks about why he particularly enjoys mixing, describing the process of discovering what a great recording can become once all of the individual performances are brought together.

For musicians, producers, engineers, and fans interested in what happens behind the scenes of heavy music, this episode provides an inside look at the creative and technical decisions that turn great performances into great records.

EP375 Mark Sunshine Talks Unida, Patriarchs in Black & His Legendary Music Career07 Aug 202600:51:43

Tom welcomes legendary vocalist Mark Sunshine for an in-depth conversation covering more than three decades of heavy music, from his early days with Elysium and System Addict to his current work with Patriarchs in Black, Unida, and the emerging progressive metal project Lost Beacon.

Mark reflects on his musical journey, explaining why he stepped away from music at various points throughout his career rather than settling into performing cover songs. He discusses his time with Elysium before joining System Addict alongside Damon Trotta and Ed Furman, laying the foundation for a career built on authenticity and powerful vocal performances.

The conversation explores Mark's recent contributions to Patriarchs in Black, including recording "Immigrant Song" after being recommended by Mike of Non-Fiction. Mark also shares updates on the upcoming 4 Patriarchs release, revealing that three new songs are currently being completed ahead of a September deadline. He also teases another cover song suggested by Johnny Kelly of Type O Negative and Quiet Riot.

Additional topics include:

  • Mark Sunshine's career history
  • Elysium and System Addict
  • Patriarchs in Black
  • Recording "Immigrant Song"
  • The upcoming 4 Patriarchs album
  • Working with Johnny Kelly
  • Unida's return
  • Mojave Festival 2027
  • Tabernas Festival in Spain
  • Lost Beacon with Trevor from Ashen Hoard
  • Performing classic songs while maintaining originality
  • The importance of authentic live performances
  • Touring as the ultimate test for new music

Mark also discusses his role as the vocalist for Unida since 2022, including upcoming appearances at Mojave Festival 2027 alongside Yawning Man, Mondo Generator, Red Fang, and Deathchant. While excited about the band's future, he candidly addresses the frustrations surrounding delays in releasing new material and emphasizes the importance of getting music into fans' hands.

Tom and Mark also dive into the philosophy of performing classic songs, discussing Rainbow, Led Zeppelin, and Chicago while exploring the balance between honoring iconic performances and maintaining one's own artistic identity. The conversation closes with updates on Lost Beacon, Mark's collaboration with Trevor from Ashen Hoard, which blends progressive metal and power metal into an exciting new creative direction.

EP374 Holler of Doom 2026 Recap | Festival Review, Doom Metal & Behind the Scenes05 Aug 202601:16:30

Tom welcomes David back to the show for a complete recap of Holler of Doom 2026, reflecting on one of the festival's biggest and most successful years despite unpredictable weather, logistical challenges, and the ever-changing realities of organizing an independent music festival.

David shares how heavy rain and overnight storms threatened portions of the weekend but ultimately had little impact on the performances themselves. Thanks to careful planning, dedicated volunteers, and an incredible community effort, the festival ran smoothly with no major incidents while delivering two unforgettable days of underground heavy music.

The conversation highlights many of the standout performances from across the weekend, including unforgettable sets from Vibrolas, Crystal Spiders, Faerie Ring, Wyndryder, Year of October, Hollows, Phoxxxy Grandma, Earth Tomb, Riffzard, Ghost in Me, and Veilcaste, whose appearance marked the venue's 100th show. David also discusses how Vibrolas' partnership has helped shape the future direction of Holler of Doom, creating an even stronger foundation for future festivals.

Additional topics include:

  • Holler of Doom 2026 recap
  • Overcoming severe weather conditions
  • Festival logistics and organization
  • Record-breaking pre-sale ticket numbers
  • Supporting more bands than ever before
  • Vendor and sponsor appreciation
  • Hagtronics' festival sponsorship
  • Merchandise sales and festival branding
  • Growing attendance from across the United States
  • Community volunteers and teamwork
  • Heat exhaustion response and attendee safety
  • Planning Holler of Doom 2027
  • Building one of the Southeast's premier underground heavy music festivals

David also reflects on more than two decades of involvement in underground heavy music and how Holler of Doom has evolved from its humble beginnings into a destination event for doom, sludge, stoner rock, and underground metal fans. The episode concludes with a look ahead at future festivals, upcoming shows, and the continued growth of the Holler of Doom community.

Patrick of Nehoda Discusses Songwriting, Touring & Building a Career Beyond the Music Business29 Jul 202601:15:12

Tom welcomes Patrick of Nashville-based heavy rock band Nehoda for a thoughtful conversation about the band's musical evolution, recording philosophy, the realities of balancing music with full-time careers, and the ever-changing Nashville music scene.

Patrick shares the story of relocating from Seattle to Nashville nearly a decade ago in search of a more affordable city where musicians could continue creating while maintaining sustainable careers. Together, Tom and Patrick reflect on Nashville's incredible level of musicianship and how many world-class performers balance their artistic passions alongside everyday professions.

The conversation explores Nehoda's evolution across four albums, highlighting the band's decision to embrace a more studio-oriented approach for their latest recordings. Patrick explains how layering guitars, vocals, and additional textures allowed the band to expand beyond their traditional live recording style while preserving the emotional core of each song. He also discusses revisiting earlier material by re-recording five songs with drummer Chip, giving longtime fans a fresh perspective on the band's growth and improved production.

Additional topics include:

  • Moving from Seattle to Nashville
  • Nashville's thriving music community
  • Building songs inside the recording studio
  • The band's evolution over four albums
  • Re-recording classic songs with drummer Chip
  • Independent music promotion and PR strategies
  • Balancing a full-time career with touring
  • Quality over quantity in live performances
  • Weekend touring and regional expansion
  • The changing Nashville music landscape
  • Staying artistically authentic in a commercial music city
  • Learning to enjoy the present instead of constantly chasing the next goal
  • Family, loss, perspective, and finding balance through music

Patrick also opens up about the challenges of managing the business side of an independent band while maintaining his passion for creating music. The discussion concludes with an honest conversation about personal growth, the importance of appreciating each milestone, and why making meaningful music remains the band's greatest priority.

EP372 Okay You Win End of Days, DesertFest London & Blues Funeral27 Jul 202600:57:35

Tom welcomes David, Rodrigo, and Antonio of UK heavy rock band Okay You Win for an in-depth conversation about their debut full-length album End of Days, recording with producer Andy Hawkins, signing with Blues Funeral Recordings, and building a career through authenticity rather than chasing trends.

The band reflects on the creation of End of Days, discussing how every song was written honestly from personal experiences without trying to fit into commercial expectations. Tom praises the album's dynamic songwriting, particularly the opening track "Smoke," while the band shares the stories behind standout songs including "Beat Me Down," "The Greatest Lie," and "Red Flag."

David explains how the lyric "I won't break" became a defining statement for the record, representing perseverance through life's challenges. Rodrigo discusses the collaborative effort that shaped "The Greatest Lie," while Antonio highlights the spontaneous punk energy that made "Red Flag" one of the band's favorite songs to perform live.

Additional topics include:

  • The making of End of Days
  • Recording with producer Andy Hawkins in Leeds
  • Signing with Blues Funeral Recordings
  • Honest songwriting and artistic authenticity
  • Lessons learned during the recording process
  • Desertfest London
  • Opening for Alan Johannes
  • Performing at London's legendary Underworld
  • Opening for Orange Goblin at Cart & Horses
  • Queens of the Stone Age's influence
  • Favorite emerging UK bands
  • Touring Europe and future U.S. plans
  • Expanding internationally while remaining independent

The conversation also explores the band's rapid growth, from early local performances with friends to festival appearances and major support slots. The members discuss the importance of staying true to their artistic vision while building momentum across Europe and looking ahead to future tours in the United States. Their passion for songwriting, friendship, and genuine connection with listeners shines throughout this engaging interview.

EP371 Apostle on A Splinter in the Infinite Noumenon, Songwriting & the Atlanta Heavy Music Scene17 Jul 202601:08:10

Tom welcomes Atlanta extreme metal trio Apostle for an emotional and insightful conversation about their latest EP, A Splinter in the Infinite Noumenon, the band's creative evolution, and how personal loss has shaped both their music and outlook on life.

The members of Apostle discuss how transitioning from a four-piece to a three-piece lineup strengthened their chemistry, streamlined their songwriting, and created a more focused creative process. Working through daily rehearsals, collaborative vision boards, and open communication, the band has developed an approach that balances technical precision with emotional intensity.

A major focus of the conversation centers on grief, healing, and finding purpose through music. Maurice shares the deeply personal experiences that inspired much of the EP following the loss of multiple family members in 2024, explaining how those experiences brought greater clarity to both his songwriting and his perspective on life. Tom also reflects on his own experiences with loss, leading to an honest discussion about the healing power of music and the connections it creates between people from all walks of life.

Additional topics include:

  • The making of A Splinter in the Infinite Noumenon
  • Working with Terminus Hate City
  • The evolution from four members to three
  • Vision boards and collaborative songwriting
  • Building stronger band chemistry
  • Touring throughout the Southeast
  • Long-term plans for the Northeast, Canada, Europe, and Japan
  • Vinyl color variants and physical releases
  • Creating artwork alongside Fabio using early demos and visual concepts
  • Balancing day jobs with independent touring
  • Atlanta's thriving underground metal community
  • Favorite albums and artist recommendations

The band also discusses the importance of maintaining friendships outside of rehearsal through regular non-music gatherings, demonstrating how strong personal relationships continue to fuel Apostle's creative growth. The result is an honest conversation about resilience, artistic purpose, and building meaningful heavy music through trust, collaboration, and shared experience.

EP370 Soft Curse Interview Liminal Ritual, Live-to-Tape Recording & Heavy Atmosphere13 Jul 202601:00:28

Tom sits down with the members of Soft Curse—Jonny (vocals/guitar), Jef (bass), Michael "Mitch" (guitar), and Dan (drums)—to discuss their debut album Liminal Ritual, the band's origins following State Faults, and their unique blend of doom metal, post-rock, and atmospheric songwriting.

The band reflects on how lifelong friendships and years of playing together naturally led to the formation of Soft Curse, allowing them to explore slower tempos, massive riffs, clean vocals, and cinematic textures while moving beyond the screamo and post-hardcore foundation of their previous band.

The conversation explores the making of Liminal Ritual, including the decision to record the entire album live to two-inch analog tape in a single day. The band explains how the pressure of capturing complete performances created an organic energy that perfectly matched the emotional weight of the songs.

Additional topics include:

  • The creation of Liminal Ritual
  • Recording live to analog tape
  • Vinyl collecting and rare pressings
  • Favorite records and musical influences
  • The transition from State Faults
  • DIY artwork, music videos, and independence
  • Spotify music discovery
  • Spotlights and modern "doomgaze"
  • Chelsea Wolfe, Pallbearer, Electric Wizard, Acid King, and Mars Red Sky
  • Building Dan's custom drum kit
  • Favorite songs from the album
  • "Weight of the Sky" and its deeply personal inspiration
  • Bringing melody and atmosphere into heavy music
  • Touring opportunities and future East Coast shows

The band also shares stories behind several of the album's standout tracks, discussing the collaborative songwriting process, the emotional experiences that shaped the record, and why maintaining complete creative independence remains central to Soft Curse's identity. The result is a thoughtful conversation about friendship, artistic growth, and creating emotionally powerful heavy music without compromise.

EP369 Ralph Torres Interview – Total Meltdown, EP2, New York Hardcore & Mental Health10 Jul 202600:54:03

Tom welcomes Ralph Torres of New York hardcore band Total Meltdown for a conversation covering the band's new EP2, the evolution of modern hardcore, vinyl releases, live performances, and the importance of mental health within the music community.

Ralph discusses how Total Meltdown expanded beyond the traditional hardcore formula on EP2, introducing dynamic songwriting, noise textures, and greater emotional depth while maintaining the intensity and speed that define the genre. He also explains the band's decision to release shorter EPs, allowing listeners to experience focused collections of songs that encourage repeat listens while adapting to today's music consumption habits.

The conversation explores the band's unique vinyl presentation, featuring a striking triptych artwork created by Chuck Barrett with creative direction from bassist Drew Castle. Ralph also reflects on overcoming imposter syndrome while starting the band alongside longtime friends and experienced musicians, including guitarist Chris, whose musical background helped shape the band's early direction.

Additional topics include:

  • The release of EP2 on vinyl and streaming platforms

  • The evolution of New York hardcore

  • Vinyl artwork and collectible releases

  • Performing their first livestream during the pandemic

  • First live shows and building confidence on stage

  • Touring throughout the Northeast

  • Supporting independent music scenes

  • Spotlights, Mr. Bungle, Melvins, and Gorilla Biscuits

  • Non-alcoholic beer and changing lifestyles

  • Community, friendship, and hardcore culture

  • Men's Mental Health Month

  • Using music as an outlet for mental health awareness



Ralph also shares how songwriting has become a powerful form of self-expression, allowing him to address personal struggles while creating meaningful connections with listeners. Together, Tom and Ralph discuss how hardcore music continues to build supportive communities where honesty, resilience, and shared experiences remain at the forefront.

EP368 Amos Rifkin on Insomniac's Fall Tour, DIY Booking & Independent Music08 Jul 202601:05:03

Tom welcomes Amos Rifkin of Insomniac for a special episode announcing the band's upcoming Fall 2026 tour while discussing independent touring, festival culture, the evolving live music landscape, and what's next for the band.

Amos shares details about Insomniac's newly announced fall tour, which follows directly after their summer run and features performances throughout the Midwest, Northeast, and East Coast. He discusses the importance of reaching new cities, returning to longtime supporters, and building sustainable touring opportunities through strong relationships with venues and promoters.

The conversation also explores the realities of booking tours in today's music industry, the resurgence of smaller markets, and why intimate venues continue to be the backbone of underground heavy music. Amos reflects on the changing culture surrounding live events, including the growth of all-ages shows and the increasing popularity of alcohol-free social spaces.

Additional topics include:

  • The Summer and Fall 2026 Insomniac tours
  • Touring with Slumbering Sun
  • Bog Social's 12th Anniversary celebration
  • Booking shows across the United States
  • Building audiences in smaller music markets
  • The rise of all-ages venues
  • Non-alcoholic bars, THC beverages, and changing concert culture
  • In the Key of Dune Fest
  • Joint Jam Festival
  • Wisconsin Doomed & Stoned Festival
  • Visiting Acadia National Park while on tour
  • Writing Insomniac's next album
  • Exploring themes of grief, healing, and personal growth through music


Amos also reflects on how the underground music community continues to thrive through collaboration, grassroots promotion, and meaningful relationships, offering an inside look at what it takes to keep independent heavy music alive while preparing for Insomniac's next creative chapter.

EP367 Dumb Waiter's Nick Crider Discusses New Album Change, Vinyl, and Creative Evolution03 Jul 202600:53:27

Tom welcomes Nick Crider of Dumb Waiter for a conversation about the band's latest album Change, the evolution of their songwriting, the Louisville heavy music community, vinyl collecting, and balancing music with the visual arts.

Nick reflects on Dumb Waiter's progression from an intensely technical, genre-bending style influenced by Mr. Bungle toward a more focused and emotionally driven approach on their sixth album, Change. He explains how simplifying arrangements and emphasizing a single emotional direction has strengthened the band's songwriting while allowing the music to connect more deeply with listeners.

The discussion also explores the band's decision to handle vocals internally after experimenting with several vocalists, resulting in a more natural integration between the instrumentation and vocal melodies.

Additional topics include:

  • The Louisville underground music scene
  • Connections with Young Widows, Photo Crime, and Coliseum
  • Running Gallery5 in Richmond
  • An upcoming art exhibition with Evan Patterson
  • Vinyl, cassette, and physical music releases
  • Modern vinyl production and pressing improvements
  • Favorite recent albums and underground bands
  • Music videos for Deaf Club
  • Greg Puciato, Better Lovers, and Jerry Cantrell
  • Live music in intimate venues versus larger clubs
  • Supporting independent artists and regional music communities

Nick also shares his passion for collecting records, creating visual art, and maintaining a healthy balance between multiple creative outlets while continuing to push Dumb Waiter's sound into exciting new territory.

EP366 Rick Jimenez Talks Extinction A D , Monthly Singles, Touring & Hardcore01 Jul 202602:13:08

Tom welcomes Rick Jimenez of Extinction A.D. for a wide-ranging conversation covering the band's ambitious new release strategy, the realities of touring in today's music industry, songwriting, hardcore culture, and why authentic human connection remains at the heart of heavy music.

Rick explains Extinction A.D.'s decision to release one new single every month through the end of 2026, discussing how the approach allows the band to remain creatively flexible while responding to current emotions instead of waiting years between album releases. He also reflects on the financial challenges facing independent bands and why modern touring requires careful planning more than ever before.

The conversation explores the growing overlap between thrash metal, death metal, and hardcore, along with the resurgence of younger audiences discovering heavy music through live shows. Rick also shares his frustrations with social media algorithms, discussing the difference between meaningful fan engagement and chasing online metrics.

Additional topics include:

  • Working with M-Theory Audio after Unique Leader Records
  • Touring economics in today's music industry
  • Creating meaningful content instead of chasing algorithms
  • Personal training, sales, and staying authentic
  • Why live music creates irreplaceable human connections
  • AI and the future of creativity
  • Building stronger local music scenes
  • The importance of smaller, packed venues
  • Songwriting and demo production
  • Writing over 90 minutes of material before entering the studio
  • Early musical projects with Chris Enriquez
  • Future musical experiments inspired by Failure and Cro-Mags

Rick also discusses his philosophy on songwriting, collaboration, and artistic integrity, offering an honest perspective on balancing creativity, family, work, and life as an independent musician in today's evolving heavy music landscape.

EP365 Dave Krusen Talks Loud Love A Tribute to Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Seattle's Grunge Legacy29 Jun 202600:29:37

Tom sits down with Dave Krusen, the original drummer of Pearl Jam, for an engaging conversation about Loud Love: A Tribute to Soundgarden, Seattle's legendary grunge movement, and the evolution of the modern music industry.

Dave discusses joining the Loud Love tribute project, explaining how the opportunity to honor Soundgarden's legacy and support a meaningful cause made the invitation impossible to refuse. He shares the challenges of learning Matt Cameron's intricate drum parts, ultimately finding his own interpretation while respecting the spirit of the original performances.

The conversation explores Seattle's explosive music scene of the late 1980s and early 1990s, reflecting on the rise of Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and Nirvana, and how the city's unique culture helped define an entire generation of rock music.

Additional topics include:

  • Relearning "Loud Love" on drums
  • Matt Cameron's drumming style and influence
  • Touring life and favorite memories on the road
  • Seattle landmarks and music history
  • The Showbox and Seattle's legendary venues
  • Dave's current band, The Vases
  • Recording new music at Litho Studios
  • The changing economics of the music industry
  • Artist ownership and retaining music rights
  • New music recommendations including Neurosis and Volcandra

Tom also shares personal stories about visiting Seattle on his honeymoon, exploring iconic Pearl Jam locations, and discussing how the grunge movement continues to inspire musicians around the world. This episode is packed with stories from one of rock's most influential eras while offering an insightful look at where independent music is headed next.

EP364 Jordan of Sporelord22 Jun 202600:20:49

Jordan Nalley of Louisville based Sporelord spent some time chatting with me about the band and his shop. A local TCG shop named Heavy Meta Gaming.


Jordan helps explain how Sporelord puts together their unique sound. How they fit on to so many different bills. From playing with some super heavy bands to some not so heavy bands.


We also talk about their unique approach to releasing music It really helps each single stand out on its own and makes each single a collectable.

EP363 El of Incite10 Jun 202600:10:31

While on tour with Death Angel and VIO-Lence, El from Arizona based Incite joined me from behind the merch booth for a quick chat before the show.

We discussed everything from The release of Savage New Times last year to the current run with these rad bands and crew. El talked about how everyone was super helpful and there were no egos on this run.


I need to say that this bill absolutely rips and it's a tour you don't want to miss if you're into Thrash. This tour runs for a couple more weeks. They're on the West Coast now finishing up.


I'm hoping they do another run soon!

EP362 Alex from Pains08 Jun 202600:12:15

Pains was out on tour with UK based Conjurer, Sadness and Snooze. While on tour, they made a stop in Louisville, Ky at Portal, this is where I caught them. This was my introduction to them.


It was a killer set and a killer night of music.Alex was kind enough to take a few minutes and chat with me in between bands (and part of one of the bands sets, which we ended quickly to get in and watch).


Pains in an Illinois based band that crushes the live setting.

Watch the chat.


Catch the band(s) live.


Pains has another tour coming up, though I won't say anything about it yet

EP361 Joseph Martinez (Junius) Interview | Solterra, Post. Festival & Modern Music Industry03 Jun 202601:24:12

Tom welcomes Joseph E. Martinez of Junius for an in-depth conversation about the band's upcoming album Sotera, their appearance at Post. Festival, the challenges of songwriting, and maintaining artistic integrity in today's music industry.

Joseph discusses how Sotera became the heaviest album in Junius' catalog, explaining how a clearly defined concept shaped the music and pushed the band into darker and heavier territory. He shares insights into his songwriting process, vocal development, and the constant revisions that occur before recording.

The discussion explores Junius' deliberate approach to album creation, the importance of creative boundaries, and why some songs—no matter how much he loves them—must be left behind if they don't fit the larger vision. Joseph also explains why the band often takes longer between releases and how they balance artistic quality with the realities of modern music production.

Additional topics include:

  • Performing at Post. Festival
  • Playing nearly the entire Sotera album live
  • The resurgence of shoegaze and alternative music
  • Touring Europe and growing an international audience
  • Recording at Henson Recording Studios
  • Memorable encounters with Chris Cornell
  • Touring with Enslaved
  • The financial realities of modern musicians
  • Artistic integrity versus commercial pressures
  • Deftones, Mastodon, Spotlights, and influential modern bands

Joseph also reflects on some of the most meaningful moments of his career and offers a candid perspective on creativity, success, and what it means to build a sustainable artistic life in today's music landscape.

EP360 Zack Simmons on Acid Bath Reunion, Goatwhore, and Extreme Metal Drumming29 May 202600:40:39

Tom sits down with Zack Simmons of Acid Bath, Goatwhore, and Bringers of Disease for a deep discussion about the long-awaited Acid Bath reunion, preparing to perform iconic material, touring realities, drum influences, and life in extreme music.

Zack talks about first discovering Acid Bath as a teenager in the early 2000s and the surreal experience of eventually joining a band he grew up admiring. He discusses working closely with Sammy Duet to revive the material, the pressure of honoring the original songs, and the intense rehearsal process leading up to the reunion shows.

The conversation also explores Zack’s work with Goatwhore and Bringers of Disease, balancing multiple projects, and how touring schedules impact longevity for heavy bands. Zack shares stories about filling in for High on Fire, performing in Athens, Greece, and the physical demands of playing back-to-back drum sets in extreme metal environments.

Tom and Zack also discuss:

  • Black Sabbath and Motörhead influences
  • Ozzy-era Sabbath and classic heavy music foundations
  • Dave Lombardo, Tommy Aldridge, and Mickey Dee
  • Tour burnout and maintaining momentum
  • Blast beats versus groove-oriented drumming
  • The evolution of modern touring culture
  • Southern rock influences and underground metal history

If you enjoy conversations about sludge metal, doom metal, death metal drumming, underground touring culture, and the legacy of Acid Bath, this episode delivers a detailed look into one of heavy music’s most respected modern drummers.


EP359: Amos Rifkin of Insomniac & Deceased on Touring, Festivals & Underground Metal25 May 202600:57:43

In EP359, Tom speaks with Amos Rifkin of Insomniac and Deceased about life in the underground heavy music scene, balancing multiple bands, festival touring, and the realities of working as both a musician and booking agent.

Amos discusses the differences between performing with psychedelic doom band Insomniac and death/thrash legends Deceased, along with the physical and mental preparation required for each project. The conversation also explores recent touring experiences with Howling Giant, festival appearances across North America and Europe, and the logistical challenges of modern touring and visa processing.

Additional topics include underground music community building, aging in heavy music culture, Atlanta’s music scene, touring economics, and the importance of creating meaningful experiences for fans at concerts and festivals.

Featured discussion topics:
• Touring with Insomniac and Howling Giant
• Playing drums for Deceased
• Booking underground metal tours
• European festivals and international touring
• Underground music industry challenges
• Metal community and fan culture
• Psychedelic doom and death metal performance styles

Recommended for fans of doom metal, death metal, psychedelic rock, underground touring culture, and in-depth heavy music conversations.

EP358: Amplifier on The Inevitability of Disillusionment, Grief, PostFest & Concept Albums22 May 202601:08:16

In EP358, Tom speaks with Paul and Si from Amplifier about their upcoming album The Inevitability of Disillusionment and the deeply emotional themes that shaped the record.

The conversation explores grief, remembrance, emotional vulnerability in songwriting, and the band’s commitment to creating immersive albums meant to be experienced from beginning to end. Si discusses the layered production approach behind tracks like “Remembrance” and “Dissent,” while Paul explains the importance of emotional honesty over technical perfection.

Additional discussion includes PostFest, touring plans, live performance flow, concept albums, vinyl release ideas, and the continued resurgence of physical music formats among younger listeners. The band also reveals plans for future music inspired by the five stages of grief.

Topics include:
• Amplifier’s new album The Inevitability of Disillusionment
• Progressive rock and atmospheric songwriting
• Grief and emotional storytelling in music
• PostFest and live performances
• Vinyl records, CDs, and cassette culture
• Concept albums and seamless album flow
• The influence of classic front-to-back listening experiences

Recommended for fans of progressive rock, post-rock, atmospheric metal, and emotionally immersive heavy music.


EP357: Hamish Glencross of Godthrymm on Projections, Doom Metal, My Dying Bride & Vinyl Culture20 May 202600:48:39

In EP357, Tom speaks with Hamish Glencross of Godthrymm about the band’s upcoming album Projections and the evolution of their crushing doom metal sound.

Hamish discusses songwriting, riff construction, layered harmonies, and how Projections completes a thematic trilogy for the band. The conversation also explores Hamish’s history with My Dying Bride and Solstice, the importance of vinyl and physical media, streaming culture, touring, and the enduring power of full-length albums in heavy music.

Additional discussion includes underground metal recommendations, memorable live shows, introducing younger generations to metal, and how bands continue building audiences decades after release.

Recommended for fans of doom metal, sludge metal, death doom, vinyl collecting, and underground heavy music culture.

Featured topics:
• Godthrymm – Projections
• Doom metal songwriting
• My Dying Bride history
• Vinyl records & album artwork
• Streaming and modern music consumption
• Underground metal recommendations
• Live performance philosophy

Follow and subscribe for more in-depth heavy music interviews.

EP356 From Noise to Country: Steve Austin’s New Musical Journey15 May 202601:11:41

Tom sits down with Steve Austin of Today Is the Day to discuss his new outlaw country-inspired solo album “Marked Cards and Loaded Dice,” songwriting authenticity, life in rural Maine, and the emotional experiences that shaped the record.

Steve reflects on growing up listening to classic country artists like George Jones and Willie Nelson before discovering heavier music through AC/DC’s “Back in Black.” The conversation explores how those early influences resurfaced in a deeply personal album blending traditional country instrumentation with cinematic songwriting and raw emotional honesty.

The episode also dives into Steve’s songwriting process, the importance of human connection through music, and how difficult life experiences inspired some of the album’s most powerful moments. Steve discusses writing “The Rain Keeps Coming Down” during a period marked by family loss and the emotional aftermath of the COVID era.

Additional topics include:

  • Outlaw country and classic country influences
  • Today Is the Day history and evolution
  • Songwriting during grief and hardship
  • Living off-grid in Maine
  • Heating costs and rural living realities
  • Filming at Acadia National Park
  • Upcoming tours with Napalm Death, Eyehategod, and Pentagram
  • Authenticity in underground music culture
  • Young fans discovering heavy music

Steve also shares details about upcoming live performances, future videos, and his collaboration with filmmaker Zev Deans.

If you enjoy outlaw country, underground metal, noise rock, sludge metal, and artist deep dives, subscribe for more long-form conversations with independent musicians and heavy music legends.

#SteveAustin #TodayIsTheDay #OutlawCountry #HeavyMusicPodcast #CountryMusic #NoiseRock #UndergroundMusic

EP355 Phase Meridian on Sludge Metal Revival, AI Music & Touring Realities13 May 202601:09:20

Tom sits down with Phase Meridian for a wide-ranging conversation covering progressive sludge metal, underground touring culture, physical media, AI-generated music, and the themes behind their upcoming release “Egregore.”

The band discusses their songwriting philosophy of pairing complex instrumentation with memorable vocal hooks, drawing inspiration from progressive and sludge metal legends while building their own sound. The conversation explores the resurgence of bands like Crowbar, Acid Bath, and Eyehategod among younger listeners, the realities of DIY touring, and the importance of community within local metal scenes.

The episode also dives into vinyl pressing plans, collectible physical media, absurd Costco performance ideas, cannabis legalization, and the darker economic themes explored throughout “Egregore.” The band reflects on modern capitalism, technological dependence, and the growing influence of AI-generated music on streaming platforms.

Topics Include:

  • Progressive sludge metal songwriting
  • The return of classic sludge influences
  • Touring in small towns vs major cities
  • Vinyl and cassette release plans
  • DIY metal scene culture
  • AI-generated music concerns
  • Cannabis legalization discussions
  • The concept and themes behind “Egregore”
  • Underground heavy music communities

If you enjoy doom metal, sludge metal, progressive metal, and underground heavy music podcasts, subscribe for more interviews and conversations with independent artists and heavy bands worldwide.

#PhaseMeridian #SludgeMetal #DoomMetal #ProgressiveMetal #HeavyMetalPodcast #UndergroundMetal #MetalPodcast #VinylRecords #AI Music #Egregore

EP354 Abrams on “Loon”, Recording at God City & Desert Fest UK | Blues Funeral Artists Interview06 May 202601:06:18

Abrams join the show to break down their latest album Loon, their evolution as a band, and what it was like recording at God City Studio.

Taylor and Graham dive into how the band transitioned from pandemic-era remote writing to fully collaborative studio sessions, shaping the sound of albums like Blue City and Loon. We also get into standout tracks like “Glass House” and “Said and Done,” plus how experimentation and iteration refined their final sound.

We also cover:

  • The evolution of Abrams since 2013
  • Recording with producers like Kurt Ballou
  • Why execution matters more than originality in modern heavy music
  • Denver’s thriving underground metal scene
  • Upcoming UK tour + Desertfest London appearance
  • Real-world lessons from recording and songwriting

If you’re into post-metal, sludge, and forward-thinking heavy music, this episode delivers a deep dive into how modern bands evolve and stay relevant.

👉 Subscribe for more interviews with underground heavy bands and rising artists.

EP353 Dee from Xaemora04 May 202600:11:20

Dee from St Louis based Xaemora during some down time at the Volcandra album release show a couple weeks ago at Portal Louisville.


Check it Out. Subscribe, Follow and pay attention. There will be some giveaways on Instagram of some absolutely banger albums!

EP352 Graveripper29 Apr 202600:10:28

On Friday April 24th Volcandra had a release show for their latest album. With a stacked lineup on the bill, it was a show I wasn't going to miss.While we were there, I had the opportunity to chat with some of the bands. Graveripper have been on my radar since their latest album started promo. It is a Ripper of Graves for sure!Check out this short chat!

EP351 Dave Palenske of Volcandra27 Apr 202600:09:55

On 4/24 Volcandras latest album Beyond The Will Of Mortals was released. At their album release show, Dave allowed me some time to have a random chat.


Check Out Their Latest Album, out now on Prosthetic Records.


Thanks to Portal Louisville for hosting the show and the chat!


There are a couple more chats coming from the bands that played that night as well. Keep an eye out for those!

EP350 KROKA on “Believe It”, Live Recording, Touring Plans & Building a Music Community24 Apr 202601:14:48

In EP250, KROKA discusses their upcoming album Believe It, produced by Jason Taylor of The Obsessed, and their approach to capturing an authentic live sound in the studio.

The band shares insight into their collaborative songwriting process, rehearsal discipline, and decision to record the album in a condensed four-day session to preserve performance energy.

Additional topics include:

  • The importance of live shows in building a loyal audience
  • Community-driven growth vs heavy reliance on social media
  • Vinyl release through Blackthrone Productions
  • Touring ambitions in the US and Europe, including major festivals
  • The evolving music industry and opportunities for independent artists
  • Crossovers into wrestling and multimedia collaborations

This episode provides a detailed look at how a modern band balances creativity, strategy, and grassroots momentum.

EP349 EP349: Jack Owen (Six Feet Under) on “Next to Die”, Songwriting, Death Metal History & Touring20 Apr 202600:11:29

In EP349, Jack Owen of Six Feet Under discusses the creation of their latest album, Next to Die, along with his songwriting process and decades of experience in the death metal genre.

Jack explains how he approaches writing efficiently, often completing songs in just a few days, and how his lyrical themes have evolved from classic horror influences to true crime and real-world subject matter.

Additional topics include:

  • The evolution of death metal and its connection to horror culture
  • His role in shaping extreme music through Cannibal Corpse
  • Recording techniques from analog to digital workflows
  • Touring plans across the US and Canada
  • Music discovery and emerging international bands
  • Long-term partnership with Metal Blade Records

This episode offers insight into both the creative and technical aspects of sustaining a long-term career in extreme music.


#JackOwen #SixFeetUnder #DeathMetal #MetalPodcast #ExtremeMetal #MusicIndustry #HeavyMusic #MetalHistory #Touring #MetalBladeRecords


EP348: Dead Runes on Live Performance, Merch Strategy & Legalize Lex Festival15 Apr 202601:03:18

In EP348, Dead Runes discuss their approach to live performance, merchandise strategy, and their upcoming appearance at the Legalize Lex Festival.

The conversation explores how live shows can redefine audience perception, often revealing a band’s full potential beyond recorded material. The band shares insights into their experience performing across a wide range of venues, from traditional clubs to unconventional spaces like bookstores and community centers.

Additional topics include:

  • The Legalize Lex Festival lineup and event structure
  • Building audience engagement through live performance
  • Limited-edition and creative merchandise strategies
  • Touring throughout Kentucky and regional markets
  • Adapting setlists to maintain fan interest
  • The role of DIY ethics in the underground music scene

This episode provides a detailed look at how emerging bands develop their identity and sustain growth through performance, creativity, and community engagement.

#DeadRunes #MetalPodcast #StonerRock #DoomMetal #UndergroundMusic #LiveMusic #DIYMusic #BandLife #Festival #HeavyMusic


EP347 Hashtronaut’s Wild Tour Stories, Lineup Drama & Legalize Lex | Robb Interview13 Apr 202600:48:07

Hashtronaut’s Robb joins the show to break down the band’s evolution, lineup shakeups, and what it really takes to survive in the underground metal scene.

From becoming a 3-piece after internal issues to pushing forward with heavier touring, Robb shares the reality behind keeping a band alive when things go wrong. We also dive into their upcoming Legalize Lex Festival performance, touring stories (including hitting a deer mid-tour), and why they’re taking their time with new music.

We also cover:

  • Touring with bands like Dope Throne & Year of the Cobra
  • The truth about band drama and rebuilding
  • Writing new music without pressure
  • Life on the road in underground metal
  • Inside Foul Sounds and gear built for heavy bands
  • Working with Blues Funeral Recordings

If you’re into stoner metal, doom, sludge, and real band stories, this episode delivers.

👉 Subscribe for more underground metal interviews and scene coverage.

#Hashtronaut #DoomMetal #StonerMetal #SludgeMetal #MetalPodcast #MetalInterview #UndergroundMetal #TourLife #BandLife #LegalizeLex

EP346 Fred Muench (Slowrole) – From Punk Roots to Creative Freedom10 Apr 202600:58:53

In Episode 346, we sit down with Fred Muench to explore the evolution of his project Slowrole—from its origins during COVID to a fully realized creative endeavor years in the making.

Fred shares how Slowrole began as a low-pressure songwriting outlet after his time in Bad Trip, eventually growing into a collaborative studio project with talented musicians he hadn’t previously met.

We dive deep into the creative process, discussing how spontaneity, experimentation, and artistic freedom shaped the project—drawing comparisons to later-stage composers like Ludwig van Beethoven and their evolving approach to music.

🎧 In this episode, we cover:

  • The origin and development of Slowrole
  • Writing music without pressure or expectations
  • The emotional depth behind “Fox’s Prey”
  • Music as catharsis and creative expression
  • The evolution of punk, hardcore, and modern music scenes
  • How today’s musicians blend genres and influences

Fred also reflects on the changing music landscape—from the DIY ethos of 80s/90s punk to today’s image-driven industry—while sharing personal stories about live shows, musical discovery, and introducing his kids to legendary bands like Black Sabbath, Guns N' Roses, and Deftones.

Along the way, we touch on iconic influences including Paul McCartney, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, Bleach, Green Day, and The Offspring.

This episode is a must-listen for fans of independent music, punk rock history, and authentic creative journeys.

👉 Subscribe for more conversations with musicians, creators, and artists.

EP345 Calloway talks Uga Buga and Legalize08 Apr 202600:56:13

Legalize Lex April 16, 17, 18 at Als Bar Lexington Ky

EP344 Lungburner “Dogma” Interview | New Album, Live Show Chaos & Touring the Underground Metal Scene06 Apr 202600:51:27

Lungburner join the show to break down their crushing new album “Dogma” (out April 17 via Terminus Hate Records) and dive deep into the realities of the underground metal scene.


In this episode, we talk about the band’s evolution, their commitment to delivering immersive live performances, and how they’re pushing beyond traditional doom and sludge with theatrical elements, projection visuals, and raw intensity. The band also shares insights into their upcoming Texas tour, working with Bill Keliher (Mastodon), and their fast-paced approach to writing and recording new music.


We also get into:

The difference between live vs recorded metal experiences

Building a band like a business in today’s music industry

The importance of merch, vinyl, and physical releases

How modern heavy music scenes are stronger than ever

Upcoming studio sessions and future releases

If you’re into doom metal, sludge metal, underground heavy music, or bands like Baroness, Howling Giant, and Generation of Vipers, this episode delivers real insight into what it takes to thrive in today’s scene.


🎧 Listen now and discover why Lungburner is a band to watch in 2026.


#Lungburner #Dogma #DoomMetal #SludgeMetal #HeavyMusic #MetalPodcast #UndergroundMetal #MetalInterview #NewMetal #MetalScene #StonerMetal #LiveMusic #MetalBands #VinylCommunity #Metalheads

EP343 Legalize Florist03 Apr 202601:25:52

Florist joins Tom to talk about the upcoming Legalize Lex preshow, festival culture, and the tight-knit community behind doom and stoner rock.This episode dives into the planning, promotion, and real-world logistics of DIY festivals—along with the stories, chaos, and camaraderie that make them unforgettable.Inside this episode:• behind-the-scenes planning for Legalize Lex and preshow events• creating content to promote festivals and build audience engagement• the challenges of organizing tours and events across regions like Florida• why the doom and stoner rock scene is one of the most supportive communities in music• upcoming festivals like Tampa Doom & Gloom and Planet Desert Rock Weekend• tour routing, long drives, and surviving life on the road• building lineups with bands like Lordship, Blessed Black, and Faerie RingThey also break down the full Legalize Lex lineup, highlighting bands such as Hashtronaut, Crop, Crystal Spider, Dead Runes, Acromancer, and Blonde Cauldron—showcasing the depth of the regional scene.The conversation also touches on:• after-party plans tied to shows featuring Clutch and Corrosion of Conformity• memorable past festival moments and wild live show stories• merchandise logistics, vinyl releases, and managing fan expectations• the resurgence of 90s heavy music and bands like Acid Bath and Deftones• the importance of supporting local venues, artists, and small businessesIf you’re into doom metal, stoner rock, or the grassroots side of the music industry, this episode gives you a real look at what it takes to build something meaningful from the ground up.🎧 Tap in to hear how festivals like Legalize Lex are bringing the underground scene together.#LegalizeLex#DoomMetal#StonerRock#UndergroundMusic#MusicFestival#DIYMusic#MetalScene#TourLife#AndNowTheBand

EP342 Matt Young, Mike De Leon and Derek Engemann01 Apr 202600:15:17

After a ripping night of music and friendship, members of King Parrot and Soulfly sat down to have a chat.Youngy, Mike De Leon and Derek Engemann join me for a quick conversation about the show and the tour. Friendship on the road and what it means to be on the road with your friends. What's been the best night of tour so far? No, it wasn't Louisville.King Parrot are making some new fans on this run with Gwar and Soulfly. 6 weeks on the road with this rowdy bunch.What's in the works? no clueGo check out the tour when it comes to a town near you!kingparrot.net/tour

EP341 Witch Ripper Concept Albums, Collaboration & Through the Hourglass30 Mar 202601:14:04

Tom sits down with Curtis and Chad of Witch Ripper to break down their upcoming album Through the Hourglass, arriving April 10 via Magnetic Eye Records.


The conversation dives deep into the band’s evolution—from its beginnings as Curtis’ solo project in 2012 to a fully collaborative unit today.


With this new record, Witch Ripper leans heavily into a shared songwriting process, with Chad contributing more than ever before, helping expand the band’s melodic range and overall dynamic.


Tom highlights the album’s immersive feel, and the band explains how Through the Hourglass was intentionally crafted as a concept-driven, front-to-back listening experience. Drawing inspiration from cinematic storytelling and graphic novels, they emphasize leaving space for interpretation rather than spelling everything out—creating a more engaging experience for listeners.


Musically, the album represents a shift. Compared to The Flight After the Fall, the new material explores:darker tonalities and more minor-key structures, greater use of space in productionless reliance on constant rhythm guitar layering increased focus on vocals and drums


The band also discusses the business side of heavy music, including the evolution from traditional label deals to modern independent models where bands retain ownership of masters and publishing—contrasting that with legacy acts like Metallica and Mastodon.


On the road front, Witch Ripper outlines a packed schedule, including:

a Seattle album release showa 16-day West Coast tour in late May additional regional dates through September

They also discuss the realities of touring logistics, noting that an East Coast run isn’t feasible this year—but remains a goal for the future.


The episode takes a personal turn as well, with stories about first concerts—from Michael Jackson to Rush—and how those early experiences shaped their connection to music. The conversation also touches on gear preferences, the role of the internet in modern musicianship, and the importance of community in heavy music.


If you’re into concept albums, collaborative songwriting, and the realities of being a modern independent metal band, this episode offers a detailed look inside Witch Ripper’s world.


#WitchRipper #HeavyMetal #ConceptAlbum #MetalPodcast #MagneticEyeRecords #UndergroundMetal #AndNowTheBand #MetalInterview #DIYMusic #NewMusic

EP340 Brady Deeprose of Conjurer on Touring the U.S., Streaming Reality & Band Survival27 Mar 202601:11:08

Brady Deeprose of Conjurer joins Tom for an in-depth conversation on what it really takes to build and sustain a band in today’s music industry.

From navigating duplicate band names to planning U.S. tours and adapting to streaming-era realities, Brady breaks down the strategy behind Conjurer’s growth and success.

Inside this episode:
• the challenge of multiple bands sharing the same name (and attempted split releases)
• how Conjurer evolved their promotion strategy for recent releases
• why modern bands must actively “service” their music beyond just releasing it
• the reality of streaming revenue vs real-world impact (tickets & merch)
• how Spotify and digital platforms help underground bands reach global audiences
• building successful U.S. tours and connecting with new fans
• curating diverse tour lineups (including bands like Pains and Snooze)
• balancing multiple careers in music, including tour management roles

Brady also shares insight into working behind the scenes with artists like Northlane and Make Them Suffer, giving a rare perspective on both sides of the music industry.

The conversation dives into how music discovery has changed—from record stores and press to algorithms and social media—and why bands today must adapt or risk being overlooked.

They also discuss Conjurer’s upcoming U.S. headline tour, including a stop in Louisville, and how the band carefully curates live experiences to stand out in an oversaturated market.

If you’re a musician, fan of underground metal, or interested in how bands actually survive in 2026, this episode provides a practical and honest look behind the scenes.

🎧 Listen now to hear how Conjurer is navigating the modern music landscape through strategy, authenticity, and relentless work ethic.


#Conjurer
#BradyDeeprose
#HeavyMetal
#MetalTour
#MusicIndustry
#DIYMusic
#BandLife
#StreamingMusic
#AndNowTheBand

EP339 Michael Kiske on Helloween Reunion, Authenticity & AI’s Threat to Music25 Mar 202600:35:12

Michael Kiske of Helloween joins Tom for a wide-ranging conversation on the evolution of music, the importance of authenticity, and the future of creativity in the age of AI.Known for his iconic role in shaping power metal during his original run from 1986–1993, Kiske reflects on rejoining Helloween decades later and how the band has evolved while staying true to its core identity.Inside this episode:• Michael Kiske on returning to Helloween after decades away• how bands evolve without “selling out”• why authenticity matters more than perfection in music• leaving imperfections in recordings vs overproduced sound• the pressures of fame and lessons from artists like Kurt Cobain and Elvis Presley• the impact of AI on music and creative expression• concerns about technology replacing human originality• the importance of protecting younger generations from overexposure to techMichael also shares his perspective on how different genres rise and fall in popularity, while some—like heavy metal and rap—maintain long-term cultural relevance. The discussion touches on bands like Anthrax and Def Leppard, and what allows artists to sustain lasting connections with fans.Beyond music, the conversation explores deeper philosophical themes, including individuality, spirituality, and finding truth outside of organized systems.If you’re a fan of classic power metal, the legacy of Helloween, or thoughtful discussions on where music is headed, this episode delivers both insight and perspective.🎧 Listen now to hear Michael Kiske on staying authentic in an ever-changing music landscape.#Helloween#MichaelKiske#PowerMetal#HeavyMetal#MusicPodcast#MetalLegends#AIandMusic#Authenticity#AndNowTheBand

EP338 Tour Life, Merch & Metal Brotherhood — Sam Harman of Haunt Breaks It All Down23 Mar 202600:59:20

Sam Harman of Haunt joins Tom for a deep dive into touring life, the realities of the modern music industry, and what keeps underground metal alive in 2026.

From long drives and tight budgets to unforgettable shows and lifelong friendships, Sam shares what it really takes to survive — and thrive — on the road.

Inside this episode:
• the reality of touring in today’s music economy
• why merch sales are critical for bands (and how Haunt prices theirs to move)
• the role of community in underground metal scenes
• how touring builds real relationships across bands and cities
• balancing ego, teamwork, and clearly defined band roles
• managing stress and expectations while on the road
• why CDs and tapes are still selling (especially in Europe)
• the impact of venue closures and post-pandemic touring challenges

Sam also talks about touring alongside bands like Savage Master and War Cloud, and how the heavy metal scene continues to grow through shared experiences and mutual support.

The conversation explores how underground music creates a sense of belonging — something that extends far beyond just the music itself — and why younger fans are reconnecting with older styles, including a resurgence of 90s-inspired aesthetics.

They also discuss upcoming tour stops across the U.S., including cities like Chicago, Nashville, and Louisville, plus future plans for East Coast, Florida, and European runs.

If you’re into heavy metal, touring culture, or the behind-the-scenes reality of being in a working band, this episode delivers a raw and honest look at life on the road.

🎧 Listen now to hear how Haunt is building momentum through relentless touring, smart merch strategy, and a strong sense of community.


#Haunt
#HeavyMetal
#MetalTour
#UndergroundMetal
#DIYMusic
#BandLife
#MusicPodcast
#TourLife
#AndNowTheBand

EP337 Drop Dead, Gorgeous Returns After 15 Years Danny Stills Stillman on New Music & Band Evolution13 Mar 202600:52:24

Danny “Stills” Stillman from Drop Dead, Gorgeous joins Tom to talk about the band’s return after a 15-year hiatus and how their sound has evolved since their early post-hardcore days.

Instead of simply recreating their past, the band chose to move forward — blending alternative textures, electronic elements, and modern production with the spirit that originally defined Drop Dead, Gorgeous.

Inside this episode:
• why the band waited 15 years to release new music
• evolving beyond the original post-hardcore / screamo sound
• balancing nostalgia with artistic growth
• how modern recording technology changed the songwriting process
• the realities of touring and the myth of the “rockstar lifestyle”
• the massive recording budgets bands once spent on albums
• why streaming platforms changed the economics of music
• the importance of artists owning their masters and publishing

Danny also reflects on the band’s early days in the scene and how heavy music culture has changed over the past two decades. They compare the band’s evolution to groups like Deftones, who have successfully expanded their sound while keeping their core identity intact.

The conversation dives into the modern music industry as well — from the rise of Spotify and playlist culture to the challenges independent artists face competing with major label promotion.

If you grew up with mid-2000s post-hardcore, metalcore, and alternative heavy music, this episode explores how bands survive long breaks, evolve creatively, and reconnect with fans in a completely different industry landscape.

🎧 Listen now to hear how Drop Dead, Gorgeous is writing the next chapter of their story.

#DropDeadGorgeous
#PostHardcore
#Metalcore
#HeavyMusic
#MusicPodcast
#SceneMusic
#AlternativeMetal
#BandReunion
#AndNowTheBand

EP335 Inside Legalize: Braun & Josh on Booking 19 Bands, Posters, and Building a DIY Music Scene11 Mar 202601:34:37

Braun and Josh join Tom to talk about organizing the growing underground music festival Legalize Lex — a three-day event showcasing 19 bands from across the Midwest and Southeast.

What started as a grassroots gathering has evolved into one of the most anticipated heavy music events in Lexington, bringing together regional bands, collectors, artists, and fans of doom, stoner, and underground heavy music.

Inside this episode:
• how Legalize Lex grew from a small show to a multi-day festival
• curating a lineup that balances local talent and touring acts
• the art and collectability of concert posters
• challenges of running a DIY festival while keeping tickets affordable
• why longer set times improve the live music experience
• working with local sponsors and record stores
• introducing younger fans to underground music culture

They also talk about their shared love for Spotlights, stories from past shows, and upcoming performances featuring bands like Conan, Howling Giant, and High Desert Queen.

Braun breaks down the logistics of running a festival — from poster printing and merch planning to scheduling bands and ensuring everyone gets paid fairly. They also discuss the community spirit behind the event, including record sales, giveaways, and even plans for a Sunday brunch gathering with fans and musicians.

If you’re into doom, stoner rock, underground metal, or DIY festivals, this episode is a behind-the-scenes look at how passionate fans turn an idea into a thriving music event.

🎧 Listen now to hear how Legalize Lex is helping grow the regional heavy music scene one show at a time.


#LegalizeLex
#DoomMetal
#StonerRock
#UndergroundMusic
#MetalFestival
#DIYMusic
#LexingtonKY
#HeavyMusic
#AndNowTheBand

EP335 Chris Mullins (Acromancer / Goose Hydra) on DIY Metal, Merch Ideas & Building a Scene09 Mar 202600:59:21

Chris Mullins of Kentucky based Acromancer and Goose Hydra joins Tom to talk about building bands from the ground up, creating unique merch, and navigating the challenges of the underground music scene.

They kick things off with the story behind a hand-painted meditating figure designed by Steven that fans are already demanding more of. The conversation expands into DIY merchandise ideas, including Goose Hydra keychains and LED collectibles — proving that creativity offstage can be just as important as creativity onstage.

Inside this episode:
• Chris’s unexpected journey into playing bass and joining multiple bands
• recording progress on the upcoming Acromancer album
• Goose Hydra’s plans to record a new EP with 6 songs from a growing catalog
• the reality of gaining traction in a crowded local music scene
• balancing day jobs, family life, and heavy music
• why consistency with releases and live shows matters for underground bands
• the importance of playing music for passion rather than validation

They also discuss upcoming shows including Legalize Lex at Al's Bar, where Acromancer will perform alongside several regional bands. Chris also talks about planning a Goose Hydra birthday show at Spinelli's Pizzeria.

Along the way, the conversation dives into the grind of modern band life — writing songs, recording on a budget, building a fanbase locally, and staying motivated when recognition doesn’t come immediately.

If you’re into DIY metal bands, underground scenes, and the real stories behind independent musicians, this episode delivers a raw and honest look at how bands grow from the ground up.

🎧 Listen now and discover the drive behind Acromancer, Goose Hydra, and the next wave of heavy music in the Midwest.


#Acromancer
#GooseHydra
#UndergroundMetal
#DIYBands
#MetalPodcast
#LouisvilleMetal
#IndependentMusic
#MetalScene
#AndNowTheBand

EP334 Restless Spirit on Raw Songwriting, DIY Touring & New Album Energy | Paul & Gusmo Interview02 Mar 202601:08:02

Paul and Gusmo from Restless Spirit join Tom to talk about their no-filters, high-energy approach to songwriting, the grind of a decade in the underground scene, and how their new album Restless Spirit became their most focused and authentic release yet.

Written mostly between May–August 2025, the record captures the band at their most spontaneous — less overthinking, more instinct. The guys break down their creative philosophy: serve the song first, ditch trends, and let emotion drive everything.

Inside this episode:
• their fast, energy-driven writing process
• sequencing an album for flow (acoustic interlude + 9-minute closer)
• why progressive elements should support songwriting — not ego
• early DIY tours in a van surviving on free meals
• the evolution from DMP (“Death Metal Pope”) to Restless Spirit
• building chemistry through 10+ years of friendship and collaboration
• preparing for a 36-day tour announcement
• why live shows should feel raw, loud, and FUN

They also swap concert stories and influences — from Tool, Static-X, and Dream Theater to the songwriting mindset of John Frusciante and the progressive spirit of Rush.

Tom even floats the idea of a future run with Howling Giant, hinting at what could be a killer tour pairing.

If you’re into heavy rock, doom, stoner metal, or bands that prioritize authenticity over algorithms, this conversation hits deep.

🎧 Listen now and hear how Restless Spirit turned 10 years of hustle into their strongest record yet.

#RestlessSpirit
#HeavyRock
#DoomMetal
#StonerRock
#UndergroundMusic
#MetalPodcast
#Songwriting
#IndieBands
#AndNowTheBand

EP333 10 Minutes with JP Kaine of Surfaced27 Feb 202600:10:31

Last night at the LDB Fest Pre-Show at Portal in Louisville, I spent a few minutes chatting with Jp Kaine from Surfaced.


Jp and I talk about some of the highlights over the last year and what Surfaced is working on over the next 1-3 years.


Is there something here that you didn't know Surfaced was up to? Maybe! You'll have to listen to find out.


#surfaced #ldbfest #ldbfestpreshow #portal #andnowtheband

EP332 Mike Burns (Radian) on “Subterfuge,” Emotional Songwriting, Studio Evolution & Acid Bath Shows25 Feb 202600:54:51

Mike Burns of Radian joins Tom to break down the band’s upcoming album Subterfuge (out March 20, 2026) — a record built around flow, atmosphere, and emotional weight rather than singles or algorithms.They dive deep into the sequencing and mood of the album, especially the transition from “Spiraling Ash” into “Fathom,” and how restraint, space, and vocal delivery shaped some of the band’s most powerful moments yet.Inside this episode:• crafting an album that plays like a complete journey• recording vocals in a home studio for flexibility and feel• why “Fathom” became the emotional centerpiece• honoring their late bass player Bill through songs and artwork• balancing nostalgia with growth and new members• analog vs digital recording (Tascam 4-track to modern DAWs)• writing riffs that feel timeless instead of trendy• preparing for their biggest shows yetMike also talks about upcoming performances with The Obsessed and Acid Bath, signing with a booking company, and pushing the band further than ever before.Beyond gear and songwriting, the conversation gets personal — touching on grief, friendship, photography, and how music becomes a way to process loss and stay connected to the people who shaped you.If you’re into heavy rock, doom, sludge, post-metal textures, or albums that reward front-to-back listening, this one’s for you.🎧 Listen now and hear how Radian turned memory, atmosphere, and emotion into one of their most cohesive releases yet.#Radian#Subterfuge#HeavyRock#DoomMetal#SludgeMetal#MetalPodcast#UndergroundMusic#ThirdHouseCommunications#AndNowTheBand

EP331 Redivider on Building a Death Metal Band From Scratch, Authenticity & The Louisville Scene23 Feb 202601:32:21

Jacob and Jake from Redivider join Tom to talk about turning a casual death metal jam project into a fully realized album, surviving lineup challenges, and carving out a sound that feels raw, honest, and authentic.

What started as friends playing heavy riffs quickly evolved into a year-long writing and recording process — dialing in tone, tightening chemistry, and refusing to rush the record. The result: a debut they’re proud to stand behind.

They get into:
• the grind of building a death metal band from nothing
• why authenticity matters more than chasing fame
• vocal training and endurance techniques (including methods inspired by Melissa Cross)
• early influences from Florida and Swedish death metal
• the evolution from deathcore back to classic death metal roots
• booking smart tours vs. burnout
• balancing studio time with live shows
• Louisville’s underground metal scene and rising local bands

The conversation also dives deep into the legends that shaped them — from Metallica and Slayer to Death, Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel, and Whitechapel — plus stories from local gigs and their upcoming April show.

If you’re into grassroots death metal, DIY touring, and bands doing it for the right reasons, this episode hits hard.


🎧 Listen now and discover one of the most promising heavy acts coming out of the Midwest scene.

#Redivider
#DeathMetal
#LouisvilleMetal
#UndergroundMetal
#DIYBands
#MetalPodcast
#HeavyMusic
#ExtremeMetal
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EP330 Jeff Wilson (Deeper Graves / Chrome Waves) on Doom, Post-Punk & Album Craftsmanship20 Feb 202600:40:55

Jeff Wilson of Deeper Graves and Chrome Waves joins Tom for a deep dive into writing albums with intention, balancing multiple bands, and surviving today’s underground music economy.

Jeff breaks down the creative split between projects — the late 80s/early 90s doom influence behind Deeper Graves versus the guitar-and-synth driven textures of Chrome Waves — and why he curates full albums as complete journeys, not playlists of singles.

They talk about:
• crafting cohesive records and track flow
• repurposing old material into new releases
• why shorter releases and singles reduce burnout
• the financial risk of pressing vinyl in today’s market
• touring challenges post-pandemic
• booking struggles for underground bands
• upcoming releases and festival appearances

Jeff also shares stories from two decades on the road, seeing legends like Sonic Youth and The Cure, plus his upcoming performance at Post.Festival.

If you’re into doom metal, post-black, post-punk, shoegaze, or album-focused heavy music, this episode is a masterclass in staying creative without chasing trends.

🎧 Listen now for an honest look at modern independent music life — writing smarter, touring selectively, and building sustainable projects.


#DeeperGraves
#ChromeWaves
#DoomMetal
#PostBlackMetal
#PostPunk
#Shoegaze
#UndergroundMusic
#MetalPodcast
#PostFest
#AndNowTheBand

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