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Author and psychotherapist Marc Aixalà is on the show to talk to us about psychedelic integration.

What You'll Learn About: 
💡 -- What psychedelic integration actually is, what it offers, and why it matters
⏰ -- When and how to apply different integration practices over time
🤔 -- Common mistakes made in both practice and understanding of integration
🧩 -- Approaches to working with derealization, depersonalization, and difficult or traumatic psychedelic experiences
🌌 -- How to integrate experiences of the transcendental and transpersonal
👥 -- Key insights for practitioners, facilitators, and individuals navigating their own integration process.

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Episode Breakdown

• (00:00) Opening
• (05:18) ICEERS Integration Course
• (09:47) Interview Begins
• (10:52) What is ICEERS?
• (15:17) Marc's Experience in Psychedelic Integration
• (22:57) What is psychedelic integration?
• (29:32) Why psychedelic integration is different from psychotherapy
• (34:25) The interplay between integration and preparation
• (45:24) Patreon Thanks
• (48:39) Common Mistakes in Psychedelic Integration
• (53:48) How facilitators can compromise your integration through interpretation
• (59:58) We must be careful not to overly psychologize or spiritualize our interpretations of psychedelic experiences
• (1:01:56) Psychedelic Integration Practices and at what time point post-journey they are best done
• (1:07:54) Is it ever Too Late to integrate a psychedelic experience?
• (1:14:34) Essential integration practices after a bad trip or traumatic psychedelic experience
• (1:21:33) Tip for dealing with an ongoing depersonalization or derealization
• (1:27:24) Integration doesn't always mean changing how we live
• (1:29:38) Integrating "alien" or other worldly experiences
• (1:33:06) Integrating big "downloads"
• (1:38:16) How do we integrate our whole psychedelic experience, or is that even possible?
• (1:45:28) ICEERS Integration Training Course Explained
• (1:53:53) Outro

East Forest (Krishna-Trevor Oswalt) is a musician and documentary filmmaker exploring the intersection of music and psychedelic consciousness.

He joins us on this episode of Adventures Through The Mind to talk about what music really is and why it matters so much for our psychedelic journeys.

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• Lovingly (Album)
• Ram Dass (Album)

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• (00:00) Opening
• (05:08) Interview begins
• (05:15) I am Loving Awareness, James' entry into East Forest
• (08:37) What is music?
• (11:22) Music as a lifeline
• (15:00) What makes the difference between "music" and "sound"
• (16:54) Beauty, music, and emotional richness
• (19:30) Humanity's lost its connection with music due to patterns of consumption over creation
• (28:14) The creative act of active listening
• (33:41) Music as a technology for psychedelic ceremony
• (37:21) Music in psychedelic space as a bridge to the non-dual for the growth of our souls
• (38:52) How psychedelics can worsen separation, ego, and division
• (42:06) Introducing Music for Mushrooms, film
• (45:50) What it feels like to be "the soundtrack" for psychedelic experiences
• (50:55) Why he started making music for mushroom experiences
• (58:40) Patreon thanks
• (1:02:49) The musician's experience when playing for a mushroom ceremony
• (1:09:15) The intelligence of the mushrooms
• (1:10:56) Psychedelics, the poly crisis, the constant background noise of dread
• (1:19:43) Reflecting on "the whole 2012 thing" in the context of AI technologies
• (1:21:35) Something is Coming
• (1:32:24) Mushroom lessons, say less
• (1:34:57) Hope and Concern for what's happening with Psychedelics globally
• (1:36:26) Music For Mushrooms, the documentary—what, and who, it's for
• (1:39:13) Outro

Author and couple's therapist, Charles Wininger discusses how MDMA can serve as "emotional superglue" for relationships by enhancing empathy, creating safety, and improving communication. He explains how the medicine helps couples move from defensive patterns to vulnerability, allowing them to address underlying fears and reconnect.

Check our Wininger's book on MDMA for couples, Listening to Ecstasy: The Transformative Power of MDMA 

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Welcome To The Psychedelic Café, a structured group conversation on curated topics, with curated guests, exploring a central question.

This session's question is: What does it mean to be a Black advocate in the Psychedelic Renaissance?

Our guests are The Dank Duchess, Darron Le Baron, Chor Boogie, Akua Ofosuhene, and Moudou Baqui

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Dr. Douglas Tataryn joins us to explain the Four Facets Of Human Transformation, how they develop (or don't develop) over time, what roles those facets play, what it looks like when one is more developed than the others, and how we might develop those facets in a way that leads us to removing perceptual distortions and living happier, healthier, more embodied lives within ourselves and within our relationships.

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• A quick overview of topics from our first interview together
• What are the four facets of transformation
• Waking up
  • Transcending identification
  • Development of identity/locus of identification
  • Challenges of meditative disidentification
  • The end of thinking is possible
  • Different types of waking up
  • Recognizing the lie of what we thought was our self
  • Where is God in enlightenment?
• Cleaning up
  • After enlightenment
  • Why do enlightened masters still do dumb things
  • Accidental conditioned history, emotional impressions, feeling beliefs, and perceptual distortions
  • Accidental conditioned history includes trauma but isn't only trauma
  • The importance of clearing perceptual distortions
• Growing up
  • Increasing complexity
  • Growing up can damage our relationships with those who aren't growing up
  • Spiral dynamics integral: Traditional consciousness VS modern VS postmodern
  • Why do social justice warriors embody the very relational and behavioral values and patterns they claim to be championing against?
  • The profound importance of co-learning in communities of practice
  • Sharing and exploring feelings and emotions are needed to form deep bonds
  • How Jordan Peterson illuminated the ethnocentric gang mentality of SJWs
  • The stages of growing up
• Looking around
  • How a lack of emotional intelligence can damage our relationships
  • Developing sensitivities to perceive different aspect of reality
  • Shamanism's capacity to navigate realities that others are unable to perceive at all
• How the 4 facets of transformations overlay Ken Wilber's 4 quadrants of the self
• How the self and the world you are creating within yourself is being co-created by the four facets of human transformation

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Maria Balaet is on the show to talk about the impact of psychedelics on memory processing, the neuropharmacology of memory, the interplay of memory and personal consciousness, and the ethics of memory modulation with psychedelics.

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• Foundational concepts of memory, brain, and consciousnesses
• Neural Darwinism
• Memory as an operation of the brain
• Memory is not just about remembering things
• Encoding, consolidation, retrieval (and reconsolidation)
• Implicit vs explicit memory
• Different theories of memory retrieval
• The pharmacological mechanism of memory consolidation
• The malleability of memory over time - how memory is liable to disruption
• The memory of meaning
• The neurobiology of memory
• The impact of psychedelics on memory processing
• Her research using a ketamine analog to disrupt the reconsolidation process
• Psychedelics as memory modulators
• How we can use psychedelics therapeutically to change memory
• Research with ketamine to alter memory cues around alcoholism
• The dangers of at-home efforts to alter memory resulting in accidental self-harm
• Psychedelic brainwashing and malicious intent
• Differing psychedelics, different neuropharmacology, different memory modulation?
• The fleeting memories of DMT, dream recall, and state-dependent learning
• Is it possible to increase our ability to remember our psychedelic experiences?
• The role of glutamate in memory and how different psychedelics pharmacologically change that process (LSD vs ketamine)
• Maria's upcoming research on how people's cognition under psychedelics compares to the average sober population

Jerónimo M.M. joins us on the show to discuss the cultural issues we are presented with insofar as integrating psychedelics into the mainstream of the Western World of the Global North. We also talk about preparing for the unintended consequences of ending prohibition and the amputation of culture that comes with our globalized export of psychoactive plants.

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• How we are both coping with the pandemic
• What the pandemic look like on the ground in New York City
• Discussing the growth of COVID-19 reported cases and why there are so many more already and even more coming
• Is COVID-19 our great war? Humanity vs the destructive consequences of our civilization
• Rates of changes and the present dying of our civilization
• Will a better world come out of this or a totalitarian nightmare?
• The pandemic lockdown is forcing us to slow down and be in the present moment
• The impact of COVID-19 on people in poverty and people with drug dependence
• China is now in the aftermath and going about their business. What will our aftermath be like?
• Why flattening the curve is our most reasonable response, now that containment is impossible
• Canada's healthcare system and how it is already starting to cripple our care due to a lack of supplies
• Doug Ford is Ontario Canada's Trump-Lite (but apparently he is, personally, very supportive of psychedelic medicine)
• Test shortages for the population, mask shortages for the healthcare workers and why it's so important to follow social distancing measures
• The difference, for Patrick, between watching his friends die during and after overcoming his heroin addiction
• Comparing the experience of his friends dying with the recent death of his mother
• People we know are going to die of COVID-19 and we shouldn't ignore this fact
• Patrick's experiences of death offer us as perspective in these frightening, and fatal times
• Final thoughts and perspectives for all of us stuck in this together

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5-MeO-DMT and breath work facilitator Chad Charles joins me to discuss Leo Gura's Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness (30 breakthrough 5-MeO-DMT trips in 30 days, at increasing doses, in isolation). Our primary purpose was to discuss an element of the video that we both felt was outright dangerous, but the discussion expands to 5-MeO-DMT experiences in general.

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Dr. Oliver Grundmann joins us on Adventures Through The Mind to talk about Kratom. We discuss its traditional cultural use, legal history, pharmacology, modern cultural use, preparation best practices, its benefits and its risks, and how to safely start using kratom.

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Episode Breakdown

• What is kratom?
• Kratom's cultural traditions and history of use
• Is its prohibition being lobbied by the drug trade?
• Traditional preparations of kratom
•  Pharmacology and effects in the brain
• G proteins, opioid receptors, and the beta arrestin 2 pathway
• How kratom gives you an opioid high without suppressing breathing
• The differing addictive potentials of Kratom's alkaloids, mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine
• What opioid receptor is being activated with kratom?
• Is kratom addictive? What are the symptoms of withdrawal?
• Doctors might give you methadone for kratom withdrawal
• The difference betweenness addiction and dependence
• How good therapy might mean nothing for addiction if there are no social supports to help people into healthier social-economic circumstances
• Why people use kratom and how effective it is according to the research
• Adverse effects | kratom side effects
• Is kratom toxic for the liver? Yes, but it's not that simple.
• How to know if you have an addiction to kratom
• What to watch out for when first starting with kratom
• How to get the most out of your kratom (skip the OJ!)
• Do different strains make a difference?
• Is the DEA trying to suppress kratom to protect the profits of big pharma?
• The importance of more research
• Further links and resources

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Dr. Frank Anderson joins us on Adventures Through The Mind to explore the Internal Family Systems model of therapy and its perspective on the nature of mind, trauma, "triggers", and the symptoms of mental illness. We also talk about the transpersonal context of the self, choosing to grow up in the face of our own traumas, IFS' application to psychedelic therapies, and how to use IFS to navigate the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic.

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• What is Internal family systems therapy? 
• Systems thinking and the multiplicity of the mind
• Everybody is born with 'self-energy' and we don't need to build it or cultivate it
• We all have multiple personalities, IFS calls them 'parts' 
• The problems of parts taking on extreme roles 
• The different types of parts and their roles 
  • the two types of protective parts: mangers and firefighters
  • the wounded parts: exiles
• All our parts have positive intention - even if those intentions have negative results 
• How IFS is different than conventional therapy insofar as how it addresses 'problematic behavior': e.g. Cutting, addiction and suicide 
• How important therapist authenticity of affect is during the co-regulation process between client and therapist
• The difference between managing symptoms and healing wounds 
• What an IFS session looks like and the vital importance of 'getting the permission of the protective parts' before doing any healing work 
• The client does the healing, the therapist is an adjunct
• Healing happened through the internal relationship between the self and the parts 
• Self-energy: what is it, what does it feel like, what is its role and how do we connect with it 
• How trauma impacts our relationship between the self and our parts 
• In the IFS context of trauma, what does it mean to be an adult
• Growing up and healing trauma is a choice we need to need to make, even when our capacity to choose is different in different contexts (e.g. Systemic disenfranchisement) 
• The metaphysics of choosing our trauma before being born as a spiritual process 
• We all have the capacity to heal our trauma
• How does IFS understand psychedelic therapy, generally and specifically: MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine
• There is such a difference between low dose and high dose ketamine insofar as doing therapy 
• Low-dose ketamine psychotherapy using IFS protocol, compared to MDMA protocol 
• The exciting potentials of how different psychedelic therapies can be optimized through IFS 
• The impotence of differing between recreational, therapeutic, spiritual and harmful use
• An IFS interpretation of the imperial ACE psilocybin model 
• Should therapists experience psychedelics before providing psychedelic therapy 
• How does understanding IFS as a paradigm for living help us with or without trauma 
• How to use self-facilitated IFS processes to deal with the trauma/pain/fear of the COVID-19 pandemic 
• Unblending from our past so we can show up to what's actually happening right now

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