In this episode of 'Accelerating Careers in Real Estate,' I sit down with John Forrester, the Chair of Innovo Real Estate Development and former group CEO of Cushman & Wakefield, once described as a fire axe placed behind the emergency glass. John shares his humble beginnings, initially wanting to become a vet but ultimately finding his way into real estate after working as an estate agent. He candidly discusses his meteoric career trajectory, pivotal moments, and the importance of learning from failures. With a career spanning over three decades, John also delves into the challenges and successes of managing and merging major real estate firms through turbulent times. As he transitions to his current role focusing on real estate development, John reflects on the lessons learned and his drive to continue making an impact in the industry.

00:00 Introduction and Proudest Achievement

01:10 Early Career Beginnings

03:00 Rising Through the Ranks

03:54 Key Lessons and Turning Points

05:44 Leadership and Team Dynamics

09:01 Navigating Challenges and Growth

10:44 Becoming CEO and Facing Bankruptcy

19:42 Decisions and Loyalty

24:49 Harnessing Fearlessness for Team Success

25:03 Navigating Tough Times as a CEO

25:46 The UGL Acquisition and Strategic Growth

25:54 The Role of Management in Successful Acquisitions

27:17 UGL's Strategic Shift and Financial Challenges

28:31 The Sale to Private Equity and Global Expansion

32:04 Lessons from Past Acquisitions

35:42 Leadership and Personal Growth

41:57 Reflecting on Career Achievements and Challenges

44:52 Future Endeavors and Personal Goals

47:41 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

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Jan Trbizan: From Ljubljana to London's Super Prime Real Estate

In this episode, I recap my conversation with Jan Trbizan from 2020. At the time, Jan was the Technical and Design Director for Northacre, a brand synonymous with London's super prime properties. Jan's journey began in Ljubljana, Slovenia, with aspirations of becoming a surgeon before pivoting to architecture. He navigated through the tight-knit professional circles of Slovenia and made a bold move to London in 2009 amidst a hiring freeze due to recession. Through perseverance, including sending nearly 1000 CVs and making direct appeals to firms, he landed a role at Squire and Partners, where he built a successful career. Jan discusses the differences between working as a consultant versus client-side, emphasizing the broader perspective and appreciation he gained for the complexity of real estate projects. This episode highlights Jan's determination, adaptability, and growth as an architect and developer in the real estate industry.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

00:19 Jan Trbizan's Early Career in Slovenia

01:19 Challenges in the Slovenian Professional Scene

02:04 Breaking into the London Architecture Scene

02:22 The Struggle to Find a Job in 2009

03:03 A Creative Approach to Job Hunting

04:39 Landing the Job at Squire and Partners

06:36 Transition to Northacre and Client-Side Insights

07:18 The Broader Perspective of Architecture

08:51 Conclusion and Podcast Outro

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In this episode, Nick Carman is joined by Derek Williams, Managing Director for Investor Relations at the Valesco Group. He has raised and deployed (either as a principal or advisor) circa $8 billion of capital over his career to date, which has been invested across real estate and private market strategies in Europe, the US and Asia-Pacific. Derek shares his journey from his early days in research to his senior roles in investment management with companies like Landsec, Global Student Accommodation, and Rothschild, leading up to his current position at Valesco Group. The conversation covers his career milestones, the challenges he faced, his leadership philosophy, and his continuous quest for learning and growth.

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Key Points:

• Introduction to Derek Williams (00:00:00)
• Nick introduces Derek Williams and provides an overview of his career.
• Early Career and Interest in Real Estate (00:00:32)
• Derek discusses his initial interest in the real estate market during his school days in the 1980s.
• Learning from Mentors (00:03:16)
• Derek reflects on the values and professionalism he learned from his early mentors.
• Transition to Investment Management (00:04:16)
• Derek explains his move to investment management and his decision to pursue a master's degree at Cass Business School.
• Joining IPD and Early Management Experience (00:06:42)
• Derek discusses his role at IPD, managing a team, and the challenges he faced in his early management days.
• Role at Land Securities (00:09:13)
• Derek talks about his transition to Land Securities, working with Francis Solway, and the lessons he learned during this period.
• Expanding Horizons to Global Markets (00:14:00)
• Derek shares his desire to globalize his experience and his subsequent move to Russell Investments.
• Experiences at Russell Investments (00:16:00)
• Derek discusses launching global REIT products, his mentors, and his leadership experiences in the US.
• Entrepreneurial Ventures (00:21:00)
• Derek talks about reconnecting with his entrepreneurial spirit and his roles at B Finance and Global Student Accommodation.
• Current Role at Valesco Group (00:28:27)
• Derek describes his current role at Valesco Group, the company's unique approach, and his focus on growth and team spirit.
• Personal Reflections on Success (00:30:11)
• Derek shares his thoughts on success, the importance of learning, and maintaining personal relationships in his career.

Conclusion: Derek Williams shares valuable insights into his career journey, highlighting the importance of continuous learning, mentorship, and taking calculated risks. His experiences offer a blueprint for aspiring real estate professionals looking to accelerate their careers.

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This evening I sit down with Jonathan Goldstein, CEO and Co-Founder for Cain International. Jonathan and I discuss his earlier career in law, which includes him rising to managing partner at the age of 32 of ‘Law Firm of the Year’ Olswang. Despite this success in the legal profession he seemingly was not content and starts again in a new industry as he joins Gerald Ronson in his real estate development business Heron, as deputy CEO. I quiz Jonathan on where his drive comes from, what he has learnt and what have been his toughest challenges over the years for his personal development.

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Steven Skinner is the CEO for HB Reavis UK. Hired originally as Acquisition Director for the commercial developer who only landed in London 4 years ago, he was quickly promoted to CEO for the UK at the age of 34. Steven’s earlier career includes some equally time defying promotions within Savills City Investment and BNP City and West End offices. He was a great guest, embodying the attitude of the accelerating career, very honest and humble and not at all sure what all the fuss is about. We do touch on a topic I think is very interesting, what are the consequences of having this hunger for development and what it means for the people around these characters.

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Our first US guest, Nelson talks us through his career up to now when he leads Endeavors Multi-Family programme for more than $2bn.

Nelson shares a story of being born into a real estate family yet someone who has carved out his own path. A path that has stemmed from analytical background leading to entrepreneurial risk taking leaving behind the safety of big names and starting out on a course to be the Principal.

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Our first guest from Asia and I doubt I could have spoken to a more inspiring and driven individual. Varoon is the CoFounder of Princeton Digital Group a Warbus Pincus backed investor, developer and operator of data centres.

Varoon shares a story that travels from India, London, New York and Singapore. A career which has began in one sector and morphed into another by seizing an opportunity. Finally his entrepreneurial spark led to a whole new chapter. Its unique to our other guests yet touches on similar obstacles and milestones.

Varoon speaks very eloquently about one of the themes of the podcast: being open to new opportunities.

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In this episode I sit down with Warwick Hunter, Managing Director for Asset and Development Management for Henley Investments. Warwick shares a fascinating story. A story that includes highlights working for several of the most revered employers beginning as a graduate intake with Drivers Jonas, CO-RE, Great Portland Estates, Qatari Diar and now Henley Investments. Warwick describes the lessons learnt from his project experience including the former US Embassy Gardens in Grosvenor Sq and Chelsea Barracks and woven into this we learn about his own development including his first move to the client, key transitions from manager to director and then managing director. There are some great insights into his attitudes on risk and pushing yourself and finally what is next for this young MD.

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Good evening everyone... This is a break from the normal fortnightly episode routine but also a rather exciting one. I am very proud to announce that moving forward the ACCELERATING CAREERS IN REAL ESTATE PODCAST will now be in partnership with the Urban Land Institute (ULI). In this episode I am joined by Lisette van Doorn, ULI Europe CEO, to talk through the partnership and why we make such a great team.

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In this episode I sit down with Sammie Steele, Managing Director of Placemaking and Regeneration for Places for People. Sammie has built a career with DTZ, HCA, Crest Nicholson and now Places for People. Sammie describes her career working in residential development through commercial consultancy, public sector, plc housebuilder and now in the affordable housing sector facing up to private sector competition. She was open and honest and able to share how she made decisions in her career moves. She shares the impact of a change in mindset and self confidence had on accelerating her career unlocking a successful next chapter.

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In this episode I sit down with Mark Woodrow, Joint Managing Director of Packaged Living. In just two years Packaged Living has 2,000 build to rent homes in the pipeline with a further 1,000 as DM partner and having launched a £100m single family home fund with the support of Fiera Real Estate. Mark’s career began as a civil engineer, project manager, development manager and now company owner. He is an excellent example of that accelerating model, someone who is looking for new opportunities to learn and understand the wider implications of his role and impact. He tells his story with humility and energy about what he and Ed Ellerington have in store for the build to rent market.

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In this episode I get a chance to sit down with Amelia Bright, Executive Director of the London Estate for Grosvenor UK&I. Responsible for assets of £5bn in Mayfair and Belgravia. Amelia's career to the passerby may seem straightforward in that she has been with the same employer for 13 years. However within that time she has taken responsibility for asset management, investment, development and placemaking; in the UK and US. For me she really embodied the character of an accelerator, someone who was very conscious of her own development and a drive to keep learning and to be challenged. She wouldn't admit it but all the more impressive to have created and seized these opportunities within a single employer in such a short period of time.

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In this episode I sit down with Matt Townend, Chief Operating Officer, EcoWorld London. Matt has led a career with some of the biggest names and largest developments in London under his belt including Berkeley, Riverlight and BPSDC, Battersea Power Station. He talks about what he has learnt from these experiences, how the Power Station re-wrote the manual for selling apartments globally and how he has learnt to take a step back and find balance in his work. As he progressed from development director to MD and now COO he shares the lessons he learnt as he was forced to take a hands off approach and empower his teams. Matt broached some tough topics like mental health, family, work and people with real humour and insight; for anyone aspiring to be a leader or facing a crossroads it is an excellent listen.

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Accelerating Careers in Real Estate: Neil Young's Journey with Nick Carman

In this ESPRESSO episode of Accelerating Careers in Real Estate, host Nick Carman revisits his conversation with Neil Young from 2020, one of the pioneering figures in the UK's multifamily sector. Neil recounts his early career moves, the inception of Young London, and the establishment of the £2 billion REIT, Get Living. From his initial roles in hospitality and finance to his visionary step into real estate, Neil shares valuable insights and lessons learned from his journey.

"I remember we took on some service officers in Euston, which had about 70 desks. I remember going in there on the first day. And, um, sat in the corner with four of us and looked and there was no one else there."

00:00 Introduction

00:58 Early Career

03:29 Starting Young London

05:58 Building Get Living

09:29 Reflections and Future Trends

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In this episode I sit down with Jan Trbizan, Design and Technical Director for the luxury development company Northacre. Jan is a Slovene architect who joined the London architectural scene in 2010 establishing himself at Squires before joining Northacre as a technical manager and being recognised as a rising talent and quickly promoted to lead the design department. Jan speaks very candidly and openly about his early obstacles in securing his first role in London, how he set himself apart and how he continues to hone his skills in what is developing to be a leading light in the design of some of London’s most aspirational homes. Jan’s appetite for testing himself, for speaking his mind and his incredible work ethic may have gotten him in some occasional hot water but ultimately they got him noticed and these traits continue to set him apart.

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Caroline Harper is the Chief Planning Director for Be First, Barking and Dagenham’s urban regeneration company. Caroline tells a great story of life in academia, commercial planning consultancy, public sector myths and truths. But ultimately a great story of hard work, determination and an appetite to keep pushing herself into new territories and areas for growth.

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Will began a career in politics before pivoting to real estate. He built a blistering 15 year career with Grosvenor in the UK and Paris ending his journey as the Executive Director for the London Portfolio with £5bn AUM. He chose to leave that behind to begin a role that needed to really benefit society and not simply to pay a shareholder a dividend. He found it when he agreed to become the CEO of Retirement Villages Group. Will describes his career through successive stages of achievements, deep personal tragedy and thoroughly steep learning curve.

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In this interview I sit down with James Pellatt, Director of Workplace and Innovation for Great Portland Estates. In the interview James and I discuss his career in developing several of London's best known office developments, his ambition in his earlier career to move closer to the ultimate decision makers and what had been occasionally construed as mischievous curiosity in his earlier career chapters eventuality led him to a very unique role searches for answers to several of the biggest questions affecting the office sector. James' ability to accelerate his career is credited to his curiosity, frustration and motivation to deliver a better solution. Not one to let the market status quo dictate this ultimate constraints. He shows how he accelerates in each chapter to learn by searching more influence in decisions. James is now a leading voice, not only in his employer but the industry in how it imagines the office in 2030.

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In this episode we sit down with Neil Young, he is credited with pioneering the Build to Rent sector in the UK, he established a £2bn residential REIT and did it as a property inductee part way through his career as an accountant. Neil has continued to reinvent himself and explore ways to keep inventing and innovating meaning he has established, scaled and exited two highly coveted residential businesses and now he and his co-founders Sylvana and David are now supporting others to do the same.

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In this episode I am joined By Charlie Walsh, Director of Sales for Lodha Group, international development company responsible for One Grosvenor Square one of the world's finest residential super prime projects. Charlie and I discuss his career to date from Bristol, London, Dubai and back to London now responsible for sales strategy for this +£bn portfolio of luxury residential homes.

Charlie is incredibly humble and open in our interview, but I think you can't miss that Charlie doesn't let external factors impact him in the same way others might. He has a way of always turning it into a positive.

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In this episode I sit down with Jon Beswick, Founder of Adventure in Architecture. Jon right from the gun set out on a unique career path and didn’t subscribe to what many others consider to be our measures of success. Jon has built an architectural and now development practice to accommodate his other true passion in life and that is conquering the impossible feats across the globe. Jon’s sense of success is different to many and balancing these two passions and fusing them to mean that both flourish is what gives him his drive. In this episode you will hear us discuss how he established his business based on lessons he learnt from exploring Africa in a Defender, through to a ski to the south pole to his world record breaking exploits including the World’s Highest Dinner Party held at 6,500m.

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In this episode I sit down with Brian De’ath to hear of his career from estate agent to one of the most recognisable names in residential sales in London. His role at Canary Wharf means he is in control of 4,700 residential pipeline for the goliath of London property Canary Group, but joined them at a time when they had never delivered a single home. We talk about the importance of seizing those opportunities, having an open mind and remaining humble. I ask Brian what it meant to work for the huge personalities of Tony Pidgley, Killian Hurley and Sir George Icaobescu. You can make up your own mind on why Brian has succeeded but for me it was his drive, determination and eagerness to put himself in those uneasy situations and gain the energy from those events to succeed.

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In this episode I sit down with Morwenna Hall to hear her meteoric rise from mechanical engineer to COO of Argent. We cover her project highlights from running the hugely coveted Coal Drops Yard. We talk about pushing yourself, risks of taking too much on, imposter syndrome and when to seize career opportunities. You can make up your own mind on why Morwenna has been so successful and accelerated her growth, but for its unwavering determination to challenge the status quo and not to simply blindly follow the path of others.

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This evening I sat down with Martyn Evans, Creative Director for LandSec U&I. Martyn has travelled the path least travelled hailing from a marketing background in high street retail. Martin recounts his inspiring journey from his beginnings working in retail in Cardiff to becoming a prominent figure in the real estate industry. He shares his experiences working with notable figures like Anita Roddick of The Body Shop and subsequent rise in the property development sector, focusing on regeneration projects. Martin discusses the importance of having a moral compass in business, the challenges and successes of working on complex real estate projects, and his continuous drive to inspire and lead effectively, even within a large corporate setting. This conversation highlights the value of creativity, resilience, and ethical practices in building a successful and impactful career.

"Martin is always up for changing the world. You never hear him say, that will do. And that is so infectious and people join in because they believe they can move mountains"

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:35 Early Life and Career Beginnings

01:22 University and Early Career Experiences

02:55 Working with Anita Roddick and The Body Shop

04:48 Transition to Property Development

05:57 Joining Cathedral Group and Career Growth

09:20 Challenges and Successes in Real Estate

14:07 Reflections on Leadership and Learning

17:13 Joining Landsec and Current Role

23:43 Personal Reflections and Future Outlook

35:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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This evening I am joined by Roger Madelin CBE, Head of British Land’s Canada Water masterplan and former CEO of Argent and the chief visionary for Kings Cross. Roger and I discussed his earliest career from contractor to developer, the struggles he faced with a scheme like Kings Cross, what drives him and motivates him. He has a true passion for what he does and an incredible engine and confidence that he was on the right path with Kings Cross well before others saw the same vision. What I found fascinating was talking to Roger he has reached some dizzy heights in terms of titles and responsibilities but had no problem sharing and ultimately relinquishing these titles as he concentrated on his passions: the projects and the impact these have on the people in them.

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In this episode with Marc Vlessing, we listen to how he has started careers in three separate sectors. I believe Marc could have been successful in whatever industry he choose, but for the past 16 years his chosen career has been as CEO for Pocket Living in the starter home market. I thought my favourite lesson I learnt from Marc was the importance of PURPOSE he speaks very passionately about these earlier careers and demonstrating real chameleon talents to adapt yet ultimately he left them behind, yet with pocket he experienced slower growth of this business compared to his earlier achievements, arguably he has faced much steeper hurdles yet what made him stick at it AND I believe it was because he has found his PURPOSE. And for anyone looking for a key of how to accelerate their careers do you know what your PURPOSE IS?

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In this ESPRESSO edition of my conversation with Charlie Walsh from 2020 I get to interview Charlie Walsh, a leader with a global reputation in luxury residential sales. Charlie opens up about his career evolution, his time in the Middle East, and how he approaches risks and challenges. This episode provides valuable insights into the importance of resilience, continuous learning, and the critical support of loved ones in achieving career success. At the time of the recording Charlie was the Director for Sales for Lodha UK.

 Introduction

 Starting a Career in Real Estate

 Key Lesson: Choose a Tangible Industry

 Experience in the Middle East

 Key Lesson: Embrace Market Fluctuations

 Handling Risks and Setbacks

 Key Lesson: Continuous Challenge

 Source of Optimism

 Key Lesson: Seek External Perspectives

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This evening I am joined by Lucinda Mitchell, Investment Director for Legal General Capital, L&G's alternative asset origination arm. Lucinda's responsibility is working across direct development through to sitting on the board of their JV partners, Bruntwood Scitech. She's built her career in major regeneration development, spending 11 years with the regeneration specialist, Socious. We talk about career development, continuous development, the benefit of a plan and the power of silence to get your point across.

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Here are the key messages from this episode:

1. **Career Journey and Development**: Lucinda Mitchell's career began unexpectedly in real estate while temping at a development site, which sparked her interest in the industry. She emphasizes the importance of discovering and exploring different career paths.

2. **Importance of Networking and Relationships**: Lucinda stresses that real estate is a people-focused career. Building relationships and networking are crucial for career success in this field.

3. **Embracing Challenges**: Lucinda conveys how taking on projects with planning challenges and working through them with communities can lead to significant professional satisfaction and success.

4. **Continuous Learning and Growth**: Throughout her career, Lucinda highlights the significance of continually learning, whether through hands-on experience or further education such as her master’s degree in real estate.

5. **Strategic Career Moves**: The transition from First Base to Legal & General Capital was a strategic decision for Lucinda, aimed at broadening her experience to encompass corporate-level roles and responsibilities.

6. **Adapting Communication Styles**: Lucinda advises that being authentic and adapting one’s communication style to different audiences is key. She suggests using silence effectively and ensuring contributions add value to conversations.

7. **Mentorship and Support**: Lucinda underscores the importance of mentorship and seeking guidance from others to navigate career paths and overcome challenges.

8. **Work-Life Balance**: Lucinda acknowledges that career progression can have periods of acceleration and plateauing. She stresses the importance of giving oneself grace during different life phases, such as raising young children.

9. **Future Goals and Lifelong Learning**: Lucinda plans to continue developing her expertise in real estate while gaining more corporate finance knowledge to grow her career further.

10. **Redefining Success**: Over time, Lucinda’s definition of success has shifted from solely job titles to encompassing the breadth of experiences and personal growth throughout her career.

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This latest espresso episode is a condensed version of my conversation with Jonathan Beswick, co-founder of Adventuring Architecture, a polar explorer, and an architect. Discover insights, challenges, and lessons shared by Jon throughout his career and expeditions.

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Introduction

You're listening to Accelerating Careers in Real Estate with Nick Carman, brought to you by MacDonald Co. So in this episode, I once more dial the clock back to the summer of 2020. Time to prep that espresso or put the kettle on. With John Beswick, I get an episode unlike I had recorded before. Or since....

A Mad Idea to Africa

It started on a mad idea. We spent nine months driving down the West coast of Africa, crossed 33 countries, 33, 000 kilometers....

Formation of the Company

We found we'd met enough mining companies and expats and despots and everyone else that all promised us work that, uh, we started our own company as soon as we got back to London....

Lessons Learned and Business Growth

I think one of the lessons learned on these expeditions is to keep things simple. So I think in terms of my career aspirations, I'm not going to set out a career over the next 20 years and try and stick to it....

Setting Objectives and Resilience

setting yourself up. You set yourself an objective, you train, you plan, and then you, you know, whatever happens, you have to make that objective....

Overcoming Challenges with a Team

none of these have been done alone. They've all been done. Whether you see it or not, there's always a team involved, whether it's the team that you're doing it with or there's a team in the background....

World's Highest Dinner Party

a Guinness World Record holder for the highest black tie dinner party on Mount Everest at just over 7, 000 meters....

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This evening I'm joined by Victoria Hill, Executive Coach and founder of ProMind. ProMind is a business whose focus is unlocking potential through coaching professionals specifically in the real estate sector. 

Victoria is going to share a toolkit with us all that she's honed as a mentor to programs such as Pathways to Property and Propel, as well as a mentor to members of the PropTech Disruptor Fund, PiLabs.

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The conversation delves into the importance of self-awareness, identifying career plateaus, and taking proactive steps to accelerate career growth. It emphasizes the value of self-reflection, goal-setting, and aligning actions with personal values for success in professional endeavours.

Importance of Self-Awareness

The conversation delves into the importance of self-awareness, identifying career plateaus, and taking proactive steps to accelerate career growth. It emphasizes the value of self-reflection, goal-setting, and aligning actions with personal values for success in professional endeavours....

Recognizing and Addressing Career Plateaus

The dialogue underscores the significance of recognizing career plateaus and understanding the early warning signs. It discusses ways to self-assess career stages and navigate transitions towards growth and fulfilment....

Strategies for Career Acceleration

Venturing into strategies for career acceleration, the discussion highlights the need for clear goal-setting, self-investment, and continuous self-reflection. It encourages individuals to focus on personal development and aligning actions with long-term career aspirations....

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In our latest series of ESPRESSO episodes, I dive back to my conversations with Brian De'Ath, Director of Sales for Canary Wharf Group in 2020. Brian shares insights on luck, seizing opportunities, and projecting humility in success. Tune in for valuable career advice and inspiration!

"I've always put myself in the place to be lucky, and if that has happened to then cross my path, I've taken it as an opportunity. I think people are all given the same opportunities. Some people just choose not to see them."

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This evening, I am joined by Geeta Nanda OBE, CEO of Metropolitan Thames Valley Housing. Geeta is the former Chair of the G15 and during her 16 year stewardship of the UK’s 6th largest housing association her accomplishments included the merger of Metropolitan and Thames Valley Housing, she oversaw the launch and sale of the lauded build-to-rent provider Fizzy Living, sits on a series of boards including Redrow preceding their merger with Barratt and navigated a 2,000 person strong business, with 60,000 homes through the numerous economic, political and financial crisis over the last two decades.

Geeta Nanda, OBE, talks about her dynamic career trajectory - from her initial foray into real estate to becoming a chief executive who steered major housing initiatives. The conversation reveals challenges faced, milestones achieved, and Geeta’s philosophy on leadership, innovation, and making impactful decisions.

00:02 Introduction to Accelerating Careers in Real Estate

00:59 The Formative Years: Gita Nader's Journey Begins

03:33 Stepping Stones into Real Estate

06:29 First Challenges and Balancing Act

09:37 Rising Through the Ranks: Leadership and Learning

18:25 Innovating in Housing: The Fizzy Living Success Story

22:53 Leadership Philosophy: Building Teams and Vision

26:02 The Merger of Metropolitan and Thames Valley

33:53 Reflecting on a Pioneering Career and What's Next

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So time to grab that coffee, two more stops on the tube or however else you choose to spend the next 15 minutes as I wind back the clock and revisit my conversation with Morwenna Hall, COO of Related Argent from mid 2020. Morwenna delivered one of the most eye-catching elements of the award-winning Kings Cross scheme Coal Drops Yard with just 12 months development management experience under her belt rising through the ranks in the business to become their COO at the time of our recording. She displays incredible passion for her projects and the physical elements of real estate, yet we get to dig into her drives and measures for success and find someone who is constantly considering how to broaden her horizons and challenges what she thought possible. 

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Building Affordable Housing: Colm Lacey's Journey in Real Estate

In this episode, of Accelerating Careers in Real Estate, I get to sit down with Colm Lacey, Founder and Director of Soft Cities, Chair of London's CLT, and Group Director of Capital Projects for New City College. Colm discusses his impressive career in housing and regeneration, sharing insights from his time at Brick by Brick, Lambeth, Newham, and Croydon Council. Colm talks with honesty about periods of huge growth, and success but also how he handled a very public downfall of Brick by Brick.

Colm also reflects on his educational background, the challenges of delivering affordable housing, and his passion for improving public sector processes. The conversation offers a detailed look at Colm's professional journey, his vision for urban development, and the lessons learned along the way.

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00:00 Introduction to the Guest: Colm Lacey

01:00 Colm's Early Life and University Days

02:02 First Steps in the Professional World

03:14 Transition to Regeneration Projects

04:32 Master's Degree and Career Realization

07:57 Challenges and Successes in Brixton

12:48 Strategic Role at Homes and Communities Agency

18:11 Return to Newham and Olympic Legacy

24:55 Transforming Croydon with Brick by Brick

30:41 Career Challenges and Successes

31:37 Brick by Brick: Context and Controversy

33:41 Ambitions and Achievements

36:25 Public Criticism and Reflection

38:35 Political and Economic Challenges

48:36 Transition to Soft Cities

48:58 Quickfire Questions and Insights

56:59 Future Plans and Final Thoughts

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This evening, I am joined by Tom Redmayne, Managing Director & Head of Europe at Industrious. Industrious began its journey as a co-working, flex office operator in 2013 opening its doors in Chicago and today it has 160 locations globally. Whilst flex is very much a fresh concept in real estate, it is almost a homecoming for Tom to return to real assets after leaving Cushmans in 2015 he joined one of the pioneers of the proptech boom Wired Score spending 8 years with the business in the UK, Ireland and New York. 

We explore his remarkable journey through the real estate and technology sectors. From the initial steps out of university into uncertain territories to leading roles at WiredScore and now Industrious, Tom shares invaluable insights into navigating career pivots, embracing technology in real estate, and the pivotal moments that have shaped his career trajectory.

"Honestly, they (early years in the real estate market) were a bit of a disaster." A candid revelation of the initial setbacks and the steep learning curb in the transition from academics to professional life. - "I've always been fascinated by technology... But it wasn't actually until I met a lady called Juliette Morgan... that I really realized how real estate and technology could interact." Highlighting the lightbulb moment that propelled him into the intersection of real estate and technology.

Tom's narrative is not just a roadmap for burgeoning professionals in real estate and tech but also a testament to the dynamism of the professional landscape, emphasising adaptability, continuous learning, and the importance of mentorship. Join us as we unravel the lessons from Tom Redmayne's journey — insights that resonate far beyond the thresholds of real estate, echoing in the realms of entrepreneurship, leadership, and personal growth.

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I got to sit down with Roger Madelin CBE in 2020 as only my second episode of the series, overlooking Argent's Kings Cross scheme from the studio we had a lot of laughs. Some know him as an engineer, an avid pilot, someone with an incredible power to bring people on a journey but most of all the biggest name in Urban Regeneration. I have distilled some of my favourite parts of the discussion but make sure you revisit the full episode as this will only whet your appetite.

Roger Madelin emphasises teamwork, clear communication, and learning from mistakes as key to his success in urban regeneration. His leadership style values collaboration over titles and encourages open dialogue across all levels. His three rules—plan ahead, respect team contributions, and decisively act—guide his project management approach.

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In this episode of Accelerating Careers in Real Estate, Nick Carman is joined by the remarkable Jonathan Emery, the CEO of Aldar Development. Jonathan shares his fascinating journey from grammar school to leading the largest and most diversified real estate development company in the Middle East, Aldar Development. He opens up about his early influences, career risks, and the serendipitous moments that shaped his path.

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**Highlights from the episode:**

- **Beginnings at Home:** Jonathan’s introspective look back at his humble beginnings, the influence of his father's career shift, and how lessons from his family and schooling fueled his drive and ambition.

- **The Journey through Real Estate:** From cutting sandstone in Stamford to overseeing a portfolio of over $10 billion, Jonathan narrates his ascension through the ranks of the real estate development world.

- **Pushing Boundaries:** Whether it's advocating for youth and fresh ideas in a traditionally conservative industry or making bold moves across international borders, Jonathan has consistently challenged the status quo.

- **Dealing with Setbacks:** Jonathan discusses facing and overcoming setbacks, including not being chosen for a role he coveted, and how it led to self-reflection and realizing the importance of aligning one’s skills with the needs of the moment.

- **Leadership and Influence:** The art of asking the right questions – A look into Jonathan’s leadership style, focusing on empowerment through inquiry rather than instruction.

- **The Harmony of Success:** Identifying the ‘hum’ of a winning team and the importance of pushing beyond comfort zones for personal and professional growth.

Jonathan's career is a testament to the power of resilience, the willingness to take calculated risks, and the importance of continual learning and adaptation. Join us as we delve into the mind of a leader who's not only succeeded in navigating the complex terrain of real estate development but has also left an indelible mark on every team he's been part of.

Listeners will find inspiration in Jonathan’s story, gaining valuable insights into managing career transitions, embracing risk, and the significance of fostering a team's collective success over individual achievement.

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Marc was our very first guest on the ACRE podcast, so it seems fitting he closes out our first century of episodes. This is a highlight reel of our conversation back in early 2020. You can listen to the first episode by clicking this link: https://shows.acast.com/accelerating/episodes/1

Mark Vlessing discusses the importance of affordable housing in cities, Mark's unique career journey, the founding of Pocket Living, and key insights for entrepreneurs and individuals looking to stand out in their careers. As well as a technique to find that role that suits your unique strengths.

• "I genuinely don't see how a world city can survive unless people on modest incomes can survive..."

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This evening, I am joined by Freddie Fforde, Founder of Patch, Commuter Co-Working Clubs and chief proponent of the working near home era. A former management consultant he has landed in real estate intent on solving one of the biggest challenges affecting real estate – what do we need from an office? 

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Key Takeaways:

1. Passion for Access to Opportunity: Freddie's inspiration for Patch stems from his desire to provide access to opportunity for more people. Drawing from his experiences in university, working at Bain, and navigating the startup world, Freddie recognised the need to address challenges related to access to opportunity, particularly for working parents.
2. Confluence of Experiences: Patch emerged from a confluence of Freddie's diverse experiences, including his involvement in events at university, his observations of the challenges faced by working parents, and his exploration of technology's societal impacts. These experiences led him to envision a solution that combines technology, community, and real estate to create opportunities for people.
3. Challenging Traditional Notions: Freddie challenges traditional notions of real estate by launching Patch without prior real estate experience. He emphasises the importance of bringing new perspectives and ideas to an industry that often lacks innovation, highlighting the value of his startup mentality in driving change.
4. Mission and Values: Patch's mission is to create opportunities for people, work, and community on every UK high street. Rooted in values of nearness, balance, and sustainability, Patch aims to go beyond traditional coworking spaces to become centres of local life and work, fostering belonging and celebrating community.
5. Diversity and Inclusion: Freddie recognises the importance of diversity and inclusion within Patch and the broader real estate industry. He believes that embracing diverse perspectives and backgrounds can lead to better outcomes in urban planning and community development.
6. Future Growth: With three locations already open and plans to expand to more high streets across the UK, Patch is poised for growth. Freddie envisions Patch becoming a platform for talent and opportunity, serving diverse communities and challenging the status quo in real estate.

Overall, Freddie's passion, vision, and commitment to creating positive change through Patch offer inspiration and insight into the future of real estate and community development.

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This evening, Emma Fletcher, Low Energy Homes Director for Octopus Energy, joins me. Emma began her career in real estate advisory with Bidwells, before moving to a big name in regional housebuilding Hill Group. So how is it that she now finds herself at the cutting edge of policy and sustainability of our utilities? 

Emma has had a diverse and impactful career journey, from real estate development to agri-tech projects, housing associations, and now into the energy and utilities sector. Here are some key takeaways from the conversation:

1. Passion and Purpose: Emma emphasizes the importance of following one's passions and finding purpose in work. She highlights the need to align personal values and interests with professional endeavours to find fulfilment in one's career.
2. Adaptability and Innovation: Throughout her career transitions, Emma demonstrates adaptability and a willingness to embrace innovation. She discusses the importance of being open to new ideas, technologies, and approaches to problem-solving, particularly in industries undergoing significant change.
3. Leadership and Team Building: Emma's leadership style focuses on fostering collaboration, building cohesive teams, and inspiring others to work towards a shared vision. She emphasizes the importance of creating a sense of community and purpose within organizations to drive success.
4. Resilience and Learning from Setbacks: Emma acknowledges the challenges and setbacks she has faced, such as unsuccessful planning appeals and project rejections. However, she views these experiences as opportunities for personal growth, resilience-building, and learning valuable lessons that she can apply to future endeavours.
5. Community Engagement and Social Impact: Beyond her professional roles, Emma actively engages in community initiatives, such as community land trusts and addressing local issues like access to utilities. She highlights the importance of making a positive impact beyond the workplace and contributing to broader societal goals.

Overall, Emma's career journey exemplifies the value of passion, adaptability, resilience, and community engagement in achieving professional success and personal fulfilment. Her insights offer valuable lessons for individuals navigating their own career paths and seeking to make a meaningful difference in their respective fields.

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This evening, I sat with Charlie Baxter, Founder of new venture Moffat Baxter. He shares his journey in real estate, as former Managing Director and Co-Founder of Alchemi Group a big name in design-led residential development in central London. Despite building this business over 20 years, including managing a portfolio worth £1.4bn, someone has closed this business. We catch him now at the precipice of starting a whole new venture focused on Sustainability benefitting from his early efforts in being a considerate London developer. 

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"Listening to my intuition... has always guided me in the right direction."

Charlie recounts his real estate journey, from smaller projects to larger-scale developments as Alchemi Group grew to one of the names best associated with high-value design-led homes in the capital. Charlie emphasises mentorship's role and navigating challenges like economic downturns and contractor issues. He highlights his commitment to environmental sustainability, transitioning to retrofitting with his new venture Moffitt Baxter. Throughout, he stresses adaptability, resilience, and integrity, crediting intuition and gratitude for his success.

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This evening, I am joined by Michael Morris, CEO of Picton, a commercial UK REIT with more than £750 million diversified UK commercial property portfolio, invested across 49 assets and with around 400 occupiers. A REIT who have outperformed MSCI since their launch. 

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The key chapters in our conversation:

1.        Exploration and Career Shift:

•          Initially considered the RAF and civil engineering but shifted focus to the financial and managerial aspects of real estate.

•          Completed a civil engineering degree but later pursued a master's in real estate.

2.        Financial Crisis Challenges:

•          Played a pivotal role in managing a significant portfolio acquisition during the 2007 financial crisis.

•          Developed resilience and earned investor trust amid challenging market conditions.

3.        Entrepreneurial Leap and Leadership Style:

•          Founded an internally managed fund management subsidiary for Picton in 2010, contributing to sustained growth.

•          Michael's leadership emphasizes having a plan, prioritizing tasks, and staying focused on essential objectives.

4.        Legacy and Mentoring:

•          Ambitions evolve with personal and professional growth; Michael aims to positively impact individuals.

•          Recognizes the importance of mentoring, both within and outside the industry, for career and personal development.

5.        Balancing Career and Personal Legacy:

•          Stresses the significance of family, friends, and personal legacies beyond professional achievements.

6.        Continuous Learning and Adaptability:

•          Highlights the value of continuous learning through additional qualifications and participation in mentoring programs.

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This evening, I am joined by Nick Hayes, Co-Founder and MD of RG Real Estate. Nick joins RG a main contractor with an established track record as construction partner to the living sector, but who now wish to be both developer and delivery partner. Prior to joining RG group Nick led the development, investment and asset management of the Unite portfolio as their Property Director, a portfolio, home for 70,000 students in the UK.

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Our conversations covers:

1.   Seize Opportunities Early: Don't wait for complete readiness before pursuing career advancement. Embrace challenges and new roles to grow and evolve professionally.

2.   Cultivate Strong Relationships: Building trust and strong relationships with the right people and organizations is crucial for mutual benefit and long-term success in business.

3.   Prioritize Personal Satisfaction: Find work that energizes and interests you. Happiness and fulfillment in your career significantly impact performance and overall life satisfaction.

4.   Embrace Agility in Business: Consider the potential for growth and innovation in smaller, agile businesses versus larger corporations. Smaller companies can capitalize on opportunities and adapt more swiftly in certain sectors.

5.   Real Estate Sector Opportunities: Despite challenges in the real estate sector, particularly for large corporations, there is potential for tremendous growth, especially in smaller, more adaptable companies. The future might involve significant changes and M&A activities.

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This evening, I am joined by not one but two guests: Matthew Neal and Richard Servidei founders of Alternative Real Estate Advisors (AREA). A leading independent firm of commercial real estate advisors specialising in the alternative property sectors.

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Key takeaways from the combined conversation between Nick Carman, Matthew Neal, and Richard Servidei:

1.    Origins of Entrepreneurship: Matthew Neal was content working for a salary until Richard pitched the idea of working together. Richard, on the other hand, developed a passion for entrepreneurship in his mid-thirties when he realized his love for his job and the desire to create a business that implemented positive practices.

2.    Founding AREA: AREA was conceived when Richard seized the opportunity at a mutual friend's wedding to pitch the idea to Matthew's wife about their partnership potential. Matthew was attracted to the prospect of providing more nuanced, bespoke advice rather than just standard market data.

3.    Realities of Entrepreneurship: Running AREA proved to be challenging and demanded versatility. They faced unexpected tasks like HR, finance, and even menial tasks like fetching milk for the office. They found themselves wearing multiple hats and learned to navigate the uncertainties that come with running a business.

4.    Emphasis on People and Culture: The founders emphasized the importance of their team and nurturing a positive workplace culture. They believed that a thriving team translates to a successful business. They fostered an environment where people wanted to come into the office, focusing on collective success rather than treating employees as cogs in a machine.

5.    Challenges and Future Outlook: AREA has established itself as a provider of high-quality advice but aims to expand its expertise across various alternative sectors. They seek to become known as the best across all alternative sector workstreams. Richard looks forward to the opportunities that will arise and sees value in being adaptable to new ideas that push the business forward.

6.    Continuous Evolution: Both founders embrace the unknown and anticipate that challenges will arise. They value the ability to adapt and evolve, believing that each challenge brings new opportunities for growth and development.

7.    Success in Independence: The journey of two individuals who had the idea of entrepreneurship and transformed it into a successful venture intrigued the audience, highlighting the significance of individual initiatives and success stories.

Overall, the conversation showcased the challenges, triumphs, and ongoing aspirations of the founders in creating and developing AREA, emphasizing adaptability, teamwork, and a forward-thinking approach to succeed in the world of entrepreneurship. 

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In this episode of Accelerating Careers in Real Estate, I got to revisit, an interview from autumn 2020 with Caroline Harper, then Chief Planning Director for Be First. Caroline shares her unique path into real estate, driven by academia and a PhD, and discusses the personal traits that set her apart. She recounts her transition from private sector roles at CBRE and Jones Lang LaSalle to the public sector, including what her peers thought of her move. Followed by her responsibilities at Be First, and reflects on the blend of public and private sector strategies. Caroline also delves into how her motivations have evolved while emphasising her commitment to meaningful urban regeneration and community development.

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00:00 Introduction to the Episode

00:40 Caroline Harper's Early Career and Unique Traits

02:30 Role and Responsibilities at Be First

03:38 Transition from Private to Public Sector

05:39 Current Drivers and Personal Growth

08:19 Making leaps in your learning

09:07 Closing Remarks

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This evening, I am joined by Matt Walker, CEO for Student Housing UK Portfolio on behalf of Singaporean Global Asset Manager Mapletree. Matt originally from Oklahoma, has risen through the ranks of residential operations in the States, South America and the UK. And we catch him as he is just settling in to his most recent role and employer. 

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Matt Walker discusses his career journey, starting from his early years in Oklahoma to his current role as the CEO of Student Accommodation with Mapletree. Emphasises taking less travelled paths, stepping away from safety and security, and betting on oneself at key milestones in his career.

Career Path & Decision-Making

·        Highlights the importance of leaving an organization respectfully, avoiding burning bridges, and maintaining relationships.

·        Talks about taking risks and the confidence derived from knowing that learned skills can be applied elsewhere if things go wrong.

·        Emphasizes the significance of having a backup plan, staying grounded, and considering the worst-case scenario in career decisions.

Strengths & Strategic Thinking

·        Discusses feedback received about his strengths, particularly focusing on relentless drive, strategic thinking, and remaining calm under pressure.

·        Stresses that there wasn't a master plan but an acceptance of ambiguity and opportunities that led to growth.

·        Shares insights about seizing opportunities in the moment and having a flexible, strategic approach to career choices.

Current Role & Change

·        Talks about joining Maple Tree, a Singapore-based organization, and becoming the CEO of their global student housing business, expanding into multiple continents.

Task Management & Focus

·        Reflects on feedback about being extremely driven, focused, and efficient in completing tasks without procrastination.

·        Discusses personality traits inherited from family and learning to be efficient while balancing tactical and strategic work.

·        Emphasizes the importance of decision-making speed and avoiding getting bogged down by tactical details in a fast-paced industry.

Creating Work-Life Balance

·        Acknowledges past challenges in achieving work-life balance but shares learned strategies.

·        Encourages accepting personal growth, setting clear boundaries, and finding ways to disconnect from work after hours.

·        Advises creating psychological comfort with being offline and employing practical tricks to separate work and personal life.

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This evening, I am joined by David Kosky, Co-Founder of Co-Working business Work.Life. Co-Founders David and Elliot started Work.Life in 2015 because they believe everyone should feel happy in their work lives. Now, Work.Life is made up of 15 coworking spaces with 19 projected by the end of the year, and over 6,000 members.

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During the conversation, David delivered key insight into several topics including:

1.   Evolution of Coworking Spaces: He discussed how the concept of coworking spaces has evolved over the years, from being a tough market to a more institutionalized and accepted asset class. The sector has seen significant growth and investment from big landlords and institutional money.

2.   Trusting Instincts: David emphasised the importance of trusting one's instincts, especially when faced with scepticism from others. Despite warnings and doubts from experienced individuals in the real estate industry, he and his co-founder, Elliot, trusted their instincts and pursued their vision.

3.   Complimentary Skill Sets: David highlighted the importance of having a co-founder with complementary skills. His focus was more on business development and growth, while Elliot excelled in detail orientation, team-building, and management.

4.   Challenges in Running a Business: David acknowledged the challenges of running one's own business, from starting small and doing everything themselves to scaling up and building a team. He mentioned that persistence, positivity, and creative problem-solving are crucial in navigating the ups and downs of entrepreneurship.

5.   WeWork's Impact on the Industry: David recognized WeWork's significant impact on pushing the coworking industry forward but also highlighted the challenges WeWork faced due to rapid expansion and shaky real estate foundations. Despite WeWork's issues, David expressed confidence in the long-term trajectory of the coworking sector beyond WeWork's influence.

6.   Dealing with Setbacks: When asked about recovering from setbacks, David emphasized the importance of not taking setbacks personally, compartmentalizing work from personal life, and focusing on problem-solving and learning from mistakes.

7.   Encouragement for Entrepreneurs: David encouraged individuals interested in entrepreneurship, particularly in the real estate sector, highlighting the opportunities for innovation and disruption in this market.

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This evening, I am joined by Emma Osmundsen, CEO of Sixty Bricks. Emma was appointed as its Chief Executive in January 2023, having joined Sixty Bricks from Exeter City Living. Raised in Wales with Norwegian roots, Emma has more than 25 years in the construction industry and is one of the leading global voices in the development and delivery of low-energy, healthy and climate resilient homes and buildings.

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Emma's journey underscores the significance of perseverance, finding purpose, and prioritizing the impact of one's work on communities while facing personal and professional challenges.

1.   Passion for Innovation: Emma's drive and energy fueled her ambition to push boundaries, delivering groundbreaking projects like the world's first Passive House, Climate Ready, Building Biology Compliant Leisure Centre.

2.   Challenges as a Pioneer: As a disruptor in her field, Emma faced resistance and discomfort from those not aligned with her vision. Achieving recognition and success sometimes led to jealousy and insecurities among peers.

3.   Transitioning to New Challenges: Despite her significant achievements in Exeter, Emma felt the need for a change. She sought a new challenge and ultimately joined Sixty Bricks, driven by the desire for a fresh start and new ambitions.

4.   Ambitions in New Role: Emma aims to scale up innovative housing solutions, making them accessible and equitable across social and private housing sectors. Her goal is to demonstrate that building better homes is feasible and financially viable.

5.   Navigating Public Sector Challenges: Running a local authority development company presents hurdles like bureaucratic processes, differing risk appetites, and aligning shareholder ambitions. Emma believes these companies are part of the solution to housing crises but require better understanding and alignment with the public sector.

6.   Finding Purpose and Resilience: Emma emphasizes the importance of discovering one's purpose. Her personal battle with cancer reinforced her belief that being in a supportive environment allows individuals to navigate challenges, contributing positively to the workplace.

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