Art historian and curator Anne Radice. Radice previously served as Director of the Division of Public Programs at NEH. Prior to joining NEH in July 2018 she served as Executive Director of the American Folk Art Museum. From 2006 to 2010 Radice served as Director of the Institute of Museum and Library Services. Her previous government positions include Acting Deputy Chairman for Programs and Special Advisor to the Chairman of NEH, Chief of Staff for the U.S. Department of Education, Acting Chairman and Senior Deputy Chairman for the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), Chief Arts Advisor for the U.S. Information Agency, and Curator for the Architect of the U.S. Capitol. Radice is a recipient of the Presidential Citizen’s Medal, the Forbes Medal, and the NEA’s Chairman’s Medal. She holds an MBA from American University, a PhD in art and architectural history from the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, an MA from Villa Schifanoia School of Fine Arts in Florence, Italy, and an AB from Wheaton College.
She and Zuckerman engage here in a deeply personal conversation about living a life of service, “the general public,” true leadership, listening, and leading with your heart.

Los-Angeles based artist Diedrick Brackens is best known for his woven tapestries that explore allegory and narrative through the artist’s autobiography, broader themes of African American and queer identity, as well as American history. Brackens employs techniques from West African weaving, quilting from the American South and European tapestry-making to create both abstract and figurative works. Bracken’s work the reasoning beast (2021)—currently installed in OCMA’s exhibition Color is the First Revelation of the World—exemplifies Bracken’s intimate use of color and material, where washed in hues of black, blue, and purple, a figure embraces a goat to soar through the night sky.
He and Zuckerman discuss his relationship to craft, weaving, and storytelling, how he starts, breaking rules, why cotton matters, Texas, his titles, abstraction and figuration, and what role hope and empathy play!

Bjorn Geldhof is Director of the PinchukArtCentre. Founded in September 2006 by businessman and philanthropist Victor Pinchuk, the PinchukArtCentre is an international hub for contemporary art committed to developing the Ukrainian art scene while generating critical public discourse as a whole. Since war broke out in Ukraine in 2022 they have held important exhibitions including When Faith Moves Mountains, a major group exhibition with over 45 artists opening 143 days after the beginning of the full-scale Russian invasion, focused on Ukraine as a country open to the world and celebrating its deep roots and relation to Europe. The PinchukArtCentre invests in the next generation though the Future Generation Art Prize and the PinchukArtCentre Prize, awards for young contemporary artists aged 35 or younger. Their collateral Venice Biennale project this year, Daring to Dream in a World of Constant Fear, will be held at the Palazzo Contarini Polignac from April 20th until August 1st, 2024. The exhibition weaves a tapestry of stories and dreams gathered from artists affected by war globally.
He and Zuckerman discuss sharing risk, how art saves lives, art not as leisure but also essential part of living life, cultivating a next generation of artists, changing the way people think, the urgency of making art, offering the opportunity to speak, think and feel, knowing that today can be your last day, the urgency of having great thoughts, the role of hope, and the opportunity to dare to dream!

Ralph Steadman is a UK satirist, artist, cartoonist, illustrator, and writer whose work is synonymous with the counterculture of the 1970s. Renowned for his collaborations with iconic American writer Hunter S. Thompson, he formed an unlikely duo that created "Gonzo" journalism. This lifelong collaboration included the now-legendary Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, originally published in Rolling Stone magazine, which has since become a cult classic. The subject of numerous books and documentaries, at 84 he still turns his keen and critical eye to politicians and popular culture.

He and I discuss nude models, the British tradition of cartooning, his first meeting with Hunter S. Thompson, American Presidential politics, suicide,  pre-planning memorials, the Gonzo fist, fax machines, Travis Scott, dirty water drawings, animals, passing over and God, Sigmund Freud, Leonardo da Vinci, Johnny Depp, learning to draw, and cremation. A bonus of this podcast is not only hearing him recite texts he has written, but also describing some of his iconic friends in their accents!

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Melissa Cowley Wolf is the Founder of MCW Projects. With 20 years of experience in philanthropy and programming for cultural institutions across the United States, she is dedicated to re-imagining and democratizing cultural philanthropy to better engage diverse generations and audiences as well as to expanding the next generation of cultural philanthropists, advocates, and audiences. Melissa is also the Director of the Arts Funders Forum, an advocacy, media, convening, and research platform designed to increase private support for arts and culture. Melissa was recently named to the Artnet 2020 Innovators List as one of 51 global innovators transforming the art industry.

She and I discuss creating intimacy through technology, building communities, increasing private giving to the arts, telling stories about what matters, political art, trust, relevancy, urgency, and the essentiality of art and artists, generational shifts in understanding philanthropy, impact giving, optimism and positivity, nomadism, practice, synchronicity, and how freedom and justice are at the essence of a life well lived!

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MCW Projects

https://www.mcw-projects.com

Art Funders Forum

https://www.artsfundersforum.com

Artnet 2020 Innovators List

https://storage.googleapis.com/artnet-interim-static-assets-repository/intelligence-reports/2020/fall_2020_intelligence_report.pdf

OpEd on Arts Funding

https://news.artnet.com/opinion/arts-funding-op-ed-melissa-cowley-wolf-1929365

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Bharti Kher’s art gives form to quotidian life and its daily rituals in a way that reassesses and transforms their meaning to yield an air of magical realism. Living and working in Delhi, India and born and raised in the U.K., her use of found objects is informed by her own position as an artist located between geographic and social milieus. Her way of working is exploratory: surveying, looking, collecting, and transforming. Her chimeras, mythical monsters, and allegorical tales combine references that are at once topical and traditional, political and poetic.

She and I discuss geeky science stuff, markers of time, the beauty of imperfection, freeing things from themselves, the interest of difference, neither/nor, following intuition, how to see, the intrinsic intelligence of our bodies, Joseph Campbell, being a teacher to yourself, two things that are actually one thing, motherhood, and the most profound parts of ourselves!

References:

Joseph Campbell - https://www.jcf.org (referenced The Hero's Journey”, “The Hero With a Thousand Faces,” and his quote “The cave you fear to enter holds the treasures you seek”)

Kazimir Malevich - https://www.kazimir-malevich.org

Sol LeWitt - https://massmoca.org/sol-lewitt/

Constantin Brancusi - https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/constantin-brancusi

Giuseppe Arcimboldo - https://www.giuseppe-arcimboldo.org

William Blake - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/william-blake-39 (referenced “Dante’s Divine Comedy”)

John Berger - https://lannan.org/bios/john-berger

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Alison Sokol Blosser is Co-President, CEO & Second Generation Winegrower of Sokol Blosser. Sokol Blosser was founded in 1971 when her parents Susan Sokol and Bill Blosser planted their first vines in the Dundee Hills AVA (American Viticultural Area) of the Willamette Valley. At the time, there was no wine industry in Oregon. Today, with over 700 wineries and more than 30,000 acres of planted vineyards, Oregon has grown exponentially and its wines are available throughout the world. Sokol Blosser has survived, grown and prospered as a family-owned and run operation, and has been a key part of developing and shaping Oregon’s now prominent wine industry.

She and Zuckerman discuss the pull of a family business, being a farmer, the reality of a glamorous profession, picking the grapes at the exact right time, hand versus land, the definition of an estate wine, the magic to being on site, connecting wine and memory, loving bubbles, taking care of and nurturing the third generation, some tips on how to order wine, adaptability, and the importance of saying what you like and don’t like!

References:

https://sokolblosser.com/

Evolution wines - https://shop.sokolblosser.com/Shop-Our-Wine/Evolution-Wine

Richard Betts - http://yobetts.com

Pinot in a box - https://www.reversewinesnob.com/sokol-blosser-evolution-oregon-pinot-noir

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Sam Falls is contemporary American artist whose boundary-defying work applies artistic processes to natural phenomena. The resulting paintings, prints, sculptures, and videos, often insert organic structures into art and man-made objects into nature. "We change the work by being present, and the work changes us by being present,” the artist has said. “We are breaking down and being built up, just like every moment." Falls works intimately with the fundamentals of nature and the transience of life that art best addresses.

He and I discussed the intimacy of nature, the best part of making art, the ambiguous space between the inside and outside worlds, what artists he looks to for solace (we love the same ones!), his rain works, place, extended time, and the hand of nature, the challenges of choosing, anxiety, the parental bond, listening to music on repeat, and what helps with the darkness.

References:

Julia Kristeva - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Julia-Kristeva

Collier Schorr - https://www.303gallery.com/artists/collier-schorr

Wolfgang Tillmans - https://tillmans.co.uk

Bruce Nauman - https://www.moma.org/artists/4243 (referenced his work that was digging a hole by his ranch “Setting a Good Corner”)

Gillian Welch “Back in Time” https://music.apple.com/us/album/wayside-back-in-time/79759147?i=79759085

Salem “Capulets” https://music.apple.com/us/album/capulets/1535710389?i=1535710390

Salem “Not Much of a Life” https://music.apple.com/us/album/not-much-of-a-life/1535710389?i=1535710400

Stevie Nicks Wild Heart backstage https://youtu.be/ikMahqHWQXY

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Christopher Bedford is the Director of the Baltimore Museum of Art, appointed in May 2016. Prior to joining the BMA, Bedford led the Rose Art Museum at Brandeis University in Massachusetts for four years. In November 2019, it was announced that the Baltimore Museum of Art would only purchase works made by female-identifying artists in 2020 as part of an effort to work towards “re-correcting the canon.”

He and I discuss what putting art in the basement means, the decency and care of John Waters, reliance on attendance as revenue, living our principles in museums, philosophies of deaccessioning, the Sotheby’s auction on October 28, 2020, the urgency of caring for museum staff, having too much art while being undercapitalized, how museums can be relevant today, the importance of close listening, what a civic museum could look like, and  art that gives you an otherwise impossible idea!

References:

Lisa Yuskavage x Aspen Art Museum - https://www.aspenartmuseum.org/exhibitions/233-lisa-yuskavage-wilderness

Baltimore Museum of Art - https://artbma.org

Mickalene Thomas - https://www.mickalenethomas.com/about

John Waters - could not find appropriate link

Cindy Sherman - https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/1154

Starns - http://www.dmstarn.com

Wolfgang Tillmans - https://tillmans.co.uk (referenced portrait of John Waters)

Mark Bradford - https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2838-mark-bradford

Venice Biennale - https://www.labiennale.org/en

Rose Museum - https://www.brandeis.edu/rose/

Brice Marden - https://gagosian.com/artists/brice-marden/

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Noah Horowitz is Director Americas for Art Basel since 2015. He is based in New York and is in charge of Art Basel’s show in Miami Beach. Horowitz holds a PhD in art history from the  Courtauld Institute of Art, London. His doctoral thesis, Art of the Deal: Contemporary Art in a Global Financial Market, was published by the Princeton University Press in 2011. Previously he was managing director of The Armory Show in New York from 2011 until 2015. And prior to this, in 2009 he became Director of VIP Art Fair, a first-ever virtual international art fair.

We discuss the intimacies of zoom, living with a blanket of uncertainty, positive intelligence, the first online art fair, the rhythm and consistency of the art world calendar, details of the art market report, what is good and great in the contemporary art, being cultural explorers and speaking the global language of art, and with gratitude for it—the continuous ability to be moved by art.

References:

Cory Muscara - https://corymuscara.com

Positive Intelligence - https://www.positiveintelligence.com

Art Basel - https://www.artbasel.com

The Armory - https://www.thearmoryshow.com

Marc Spiegler - Art Basel global director

OVR 2020 - https://www.artbasel.com/ovr

Peter Doig - https://www.moma.org/artists/8087

Michael Werner - https://www.michaelwerner.com

Francois Ghebaly - http://ghebaly.com

Peter Saul x New Museum - https://www.newmuseum.org/exhibitions/view/peter-saul-crime-and-punishment

Meriem Bennani’s 2 Lizzards works on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCRSrRWDOW3/?igshid=1y1wnj1ywq601

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Pete McBride is a Native Coloradan who has spent two decades studying the world with a camera. A self-taught photographer, filmmaker, writer, and public speaker, he has traveled on assignment to over 75 countries for the National Geographic Society, Smithsonian, Google, The Nature
Conservancy, and others. After a decade documenting remote expeditions from Everest to Antarctica, McBride decided to focus his cameras closer to home on a subject closer to his heart—his backyard river, the Colorado. His latest project replaced rafting with walking—a lot of it. Over the course of a year, McBride hiked the entire length of Grand Canyon National Park — over 750 miles without a trail — to highlight development challenges facing this iconic landscape. After completing the journey, National Geographic named him and his hiking companion “Adventurers of the Year.”

He and Zuckerman discuss solitude, silence as the think tank of the soul, his decibel reading hobby, meditation as a way to control fear, a recent heart surgery, using photography to teach about health — our own and that of nature, achieving seemingly impossible things, the hooks of stories, the lessons in imperfection, and only doing things that make you nervous!

References:

Lao Tzu - “As long as you care what other people think you will always be their prisoner”

Smithsonian Mag article - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/photographs-last-quiet-places-180975765/

Gordon Hempton - https://www.soundtracker.com/about-gordon-hempton/

Oura Ring - https://ouraring.com

National Geographic - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/contributors/m/photographer-pete-mcbride/

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Sean Green is the CEO and Founder of Arternal. Arternal helps art dealers better monetize their relationships. Born in Jamaica and raised in Toronto, Green has cultivated his entrepreneurialism since watching his mom run the family maid service. With a background in computer science, his previous start up connected homeowners to quality contractors.

He and Zuckerman discuss the business of art from the collector’s perspective, the Wayfair ruling, caring about art surviving and thriving, entrepreneurial passion, his mom as a mentor, being a black founder in the artworld, focusing on data, David Leggett and Ebecho Muslimova, Clubhouse, their shared love of warm water, and how is art like medicine for your mind!

References:

Arternal - https://www.arternal.com

The Social Dilemma - film

Steve Miller - co founder

David Leggett - https://davidleggettart.com/home.html

Various Small Fires - http://www.vsf.la

Shane Campbell Gallery - https://www.shanecampbellgallery.com

Ebecho Muslimova - http://magentaplains.com/artists/ebecho-muslimova

Incubator Program at The New Museum - https://www.newmuseum.org/pages/view/new-inc-1

Clubhouse - https://clubhouse.io

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Patrick Steel is the CEO of POLITICO, which strives to be the dominant source for politics and policy in power centers across every continent where access to reliable information, non-partisan journalism and real-time tools creates, informs, and engages a global citizenry. Previously Steel spent 16 years as an investment banker and before that served in the Clinton White House.

He and Zuckerman discuss seeing America through a political campaign, the importance of relationships in building careers, Hilary Clinton’s emails as art, being an extrovert, what transformational leadership looks like, go to questions, the profound impact of the technological revolution, taking strategic bets, compromise, and his predictions for the US Presidential election on November 3, 2020!

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References:

Kyle Richards - referenced IG live

Kenny Goldsmith “Hillary: The Hillary Clinton Emails”  - https://www.neroeditions.com/product/hillary/

Venice Biennale - https://www.labiennale.org/en

Politico - https://www.politico.com/

Jerome Powell - https://www.federalreservehistory.org/people/jerome-h-powell

Playbook newsletter - https://www.politico.com/playbook

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Digital content creator Amanda McCreight specializes in digital storytelling, utilizing photography and filmmaking as her medium to challenge conventional norms, guide discourse, and foster meaningful connections. McCreight started the brand Aytuhzee noting that she “wanted to create a persona around feeling free to try everything from A to Z. Aytuhzee is many things…the Full Expression of whatever medium I’m feeling called to!” Additionally, she is the Co-Founder and Creative Director of All Day Running Co. where she collaborates with entrepreneur Jesse Itzler to curate immersive wellness and running experiences. Together they craft unforgettable events that leave participants not only with memories, but also with a newfound sense of empowerment. McCreight is a self-described lover, dreamer, and existential thinker dedicated to living the full spectrum of life’s color and emotions in art and in business.
She and Zuckerman discuss course correcting your life, saying yes, living a life full of color, finding middle ground, creating brands, giving things your all, flow state, balancing consumption and creation, what we deserve, a vision board coming to life, the first yes, speaking things into existence, public pitching ideas, practicing looking, and why art matters!

The Guerrilla Girls is an anonymous group of feminist, female artists devoted to fighting sexism and racism within the art world. The group formed in New York City in 1985 with the mission of bringing gender and racial inequality into focus within the greater arts community. The group employs cultural jamming in the form of posters, books, billboards, and public appearances to expose discrimination and corruption. To remain anonymous, members don gorilla masks and use pseudonyms that refer to deceased female artists. Their identities are concealed because issues matter more than individual identities, they want the focus to be on the issues, not on their personalities or their own work.

Guerrilla Girls member Käthe Kollwitz and Zuckerman discuss facts, writing museum wall labels, the power of killer statistics, how Guerrilla Girls get added, changing people’s minds, being intersectional feminists, broadening museum collections, and how the further you get from New York the representation of women and artists of color in museums improves!

References:

Guerilla Girls: The Art of Behaving Badly - https://www.guerrillagirls.com/books

Kynaston McShine - https://ccs.bard.edu/people/2318-kynaston-mc-shine

Alma Thomas - https://americanart.si.edu/artist/alma-thomas-4778

Mary Cassat - https://www.marycassatt.org

Georgia O’keeffe - https://www.okeeffemuseum.org/about-georgia-okeeffe/

Meret Oppenheim - https://m.theartstory.org/artist/oppenheim-meret/

Helen Frankenthaler - https://www.frankenthalerfoundation.org/artworks/paintings

The Met - https://www.metmuseum.org/

Poster - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/guerrilla-girls-do-women-have-to-be-naked-to-get-into-the-met-museum-p78793

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Paul Becker is the Founder and CEO of Art Money. He is an art entrepreneur passionate about empowering people to engage with art through building a sustainable creative economy. Art Money is a global fin-tech helping buy and sell art through a win-win business model, partnering with over 1,000 galleries globally, in the US, Australia, and New Zealand.

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Michelle Maccarone is the founder of eponymous gallery Maccarone. Shortly after 9/11 Maccarone opened in an unorthodox space in a remote neighborhood with no other galleries around. From the beginning, the gallery was an outlier in every way. It was artist-driven and grew out of conversations. It was more of a concept, or a laboratory for experimentation, that didn’t quite fit the traditional model of an art gallery. Recently the gallery's focus is beyond IRL exhibitions as a creative brand that not only manages artists and produces special projects, but also collaborates with venues and corporate partners to create experiences outside of the physical gallery space.

She and Zuckerman talked about art collecting as hoarding, the unlimited possibilities of working digitally, art as a world practice instead of a studio practice,  the grand idea, the conceptual gesture of putting art on Ebay and Pornhub, upending artworld protocols, art in transition, fear of art, and freedom!

References:

Maccarone Gallery - http://maccarone.net/

Malcolm Gladwell podcast “Revisionist History” - http://revisionisthistory.com

Richard Tuttle - https://www.pacegallery.com/artists/richard-tuttle/

“Dislocations” MOMA - https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/350

David Hammons - https://www.moma.org/artists/2486

Ilya Kabakov - http://www.kabakov.net/

Louise Bourgeois - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/louise-bourgeois-2351

Chris Burden - https://gagosian.com/artists/chris-burden/

Sophie Calle - https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/sophie-calle

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Jennifer Guidi is an artist known for her radiant, mandala-like paintings that incorporate sand, oil, and acrylic paint. Her work is an exploration of color, light, and texture, finding symmetry in opposition. The result of Guidi's compositions is both contemporary and timeless.

She and Zuckerman talked about the attitude needed to make art, finding the perfect place, TikTok and home ec, meditation as a creative resource, how to empty everything out, the input and output of energy, mark making, and the courage and patience of finding your voice.

References:

Massimo de Carlo “Virtual Space” -  https://www.massimodecarlo.com/gallery/10/vspace

The Jewish Museum - https://thejewishmuseum.org

Peter Doig - https://www.moma.org/artists/8087

Magdalena Frimkess - https://hammer.ucla.edu/made-in-la-2014/magdalena-suarez-frimkess-michael-frimkess

Dan McCarthy - https://www.antonkerngallery.com/artists/dan_mccarthy

Shio Kusaka - https://gagosian.com/artists/shio-kusaka/

David Hockney - https://www.hockney.com/home

Georgia O’keeffe - https://www.okeeffemuseum.org/about-georgia-okeeffe/

Alexander Tovborg - https://www.blumandpoe.com/artists/alexander_tovborg

Sayre Gomez - https://www.sayregomez.com

Yogic Path Oracle Cards - https://selenestone.com/products/a-yogic-path-oracle-deck

Gagosian Hong Kong - https://gagosian.com/locations/hong-kong/

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Rickey Gates has been described as a “conceptual runner” combining the practice of endurance running with the artistic mediums of photography and writing. After nearly a decade competing on a national and international mountain, trail and ultra running circuit, he took his love for ultra-endurance, storytelling and photography to his project-based runs that have included a run across America, every single street in San Francisco and currently the 50 classic trails of North America. His debut book Cross Country and feature-length film TransAmericana chronicle his 3,700 mile journey across the United States.

He and Zuckerman discuss forced meditation, the poetry of the untaken URL, running to find a clean and safe mental state, why there is never too much, and how it is a luxury to suffer!

References:

Tom Simpson - https://www.rapha.cc/us/en_US/stories/discovering-the-real-tom-simpson

Hunter Thompson - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rolling-stone-at-50-how-hunter-s-thompson-became-a-legend-115371/

Gretchen Bleiler - https://www.gretchenbleiler.com

Transamericana - http://www.rickeygates.com

Rich Roll - https://www.richroll.com

Every Single Street - https://www.everysinglestreet.com

Hamish Fulton - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/hamish-fulton-1133

Helen Mirra - http://hmirra.net

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Katherine Metz is one of the most visible spokespersons of the art of Feng Shui in the United States, introducing Feng Shui into mainstream western culture with her lucid and practical conveyance of its sometimes esoteric philosophies. Her focus is the art and science of creating a healthy home and workplace.  Metz created Feng Shui Storyboard, an interactive membership where she shares one compelling Feng Shui mystery every month. She explains the tools and techniques used to solve these mysteries; honed from her 30 years of experience as a floor plan detective and 25 years of mastering the teachings of H. H. Grandmaster Professor Lin Yun.

She and Zuckerman discuss being a rule breaker, which houses lead to divorce, the five types of people, how inspiration is knowing beyond logic, and the courage to ask the right question.

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Kulapat Yantrasast is a thought-leader and practitioner in the fields of architecture, art, and design. Originially from Thailand and now based in Los Angeles, he is the founding partner and Creative Director of wHY, a multidisciplinary design practice organized into dedicated workshops: Buildings, Landscape, Museums, Objects, and Ideas. His museum projects include the Grand Rapids Art Museum, the expansion of the Speed Art Museum in Louisville, KT, gallery design and planning for Harvard Art Museums and the Art Institute of Chicago, and currently a major gallery renovation of the Rockefeller Wing of the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

He and Zuckerman discuss museums as a place where time stands still, the sexiness and honesty of parking structures, the ease and seduction of digital solutions, loving cities, redefining everything, and what “missing your own self” feels like!

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Philip Tinari is a notable writer, critic, art curator, and expert in Chinese contemporary art. Based in Beijing since 2001, Tinari is currently director and CEO of the UCCA Center for Contemporary Art (UCCA) in Beijing.

In an emotional and raw conversation he and Zuckerman discussed the realities of living in China and the deteriorating relations between our countries, radical precarity, key rituals of the art world, objects crossing borders that people no longer can, what translation enables, whether globalization is actually inevitable, fragility and gratitude.

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Christian Luiten is a founder in 2015 of Avant Arte, an online platform for the next generation of collectors, which has 2M followers on Instagram. Their goal is to help make great art radically more accessible for their generation. International media reports refer to Avant Arte as "one of the most influential online art blogs” and Christian was named to the Forbes 30 under 30 list last year.

He and Zuckerman discuss finding art through hip-hop, mashing together artists and others, building a business on Instagram, Doug Aitken, and how to make art more popular!

References:

Avant Arte - https://avantarte.com/

Kanye West album cover collabs - https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/d3kxxz/a-brief-history-of-kanye-west-album-artwork

Jay Z “Picasso Baby” - https://www.universal-music.de/jayz/videos/picasso-baby-a-performance-art-film-326307

Rothko at Kunstmuseum Den Haag - https://www.kunstmuseum.nl/en/exhibitions/mark-rothko

Nate Lowman- http://natelowman.net

George Condo - https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/26942-george-condo

Hank Willis Thomas - https://www.hankwillisthomas.com/

The Hanukkah Project - https://thejewishmuseum.org/press/press-release/hanukkah-2010-release

The Jewish Museum - https://thejewishmuseum.org

Ricky Swallow - https://www.rickyswallow.com/portfolio/work/

Arnolfini Portrait - https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/jan-van-eyck-the-arnolfini-portrait

Superblue - https://www.superblue.com/

Kusama infinity rooms - https://hirshhorn.si.edu/kusama/infinity-rooms/

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Michael Chow is a Chinese-born  British-American restaurateur, interior designer, former actor, art collector, father, and artist. He is the co-founder and owner of the Mr. Chow restaurant chain. His father was one of China's most famous actors of his time and the leading figure at the Peking Opera. His mother came from a wealthy family whose fortune had been made in tea. He was sent to a British boarding school when he was 12 and spent his adolescence in Europe; after arriving in London in 1952, he was never able to speak to nor see his father again. He has been married four times, and he has four children.

M, Mr. Chow, and Zuckerman discuss the theater of restaurants, being a permanent refugee, painting, other artists including Jean Michel Basquiat, Leonardo Da Vinci and Jeff Koons, being humble in front of God, falling in love, and his 10 Commandments of art.

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Since the early 1990’s, Charles Long has explored the possibilities of sculpture through a rich vocabulary of materials, colors, images and shapes. Incorporating references to art history, popular culture, nature and his own experiences, Long’s work embraces modernist convention as a means of connecting inner and outer realities, forming pathways between one’s mental and bodily experiences and the surrounding environment. Through his many bodies of work over the years, the artist has consistently confronted formal parameters associated with sculpture as obstacles to push beyond, seeing modernism’s trajectory as unfinished and full of possibility.
He and Zuckerman spoke about metaphysical research, why things are happening, the secret of teaching, refinding art on his own terms, psychedelics, Donald D. Hoffman of UC Irvine, “wisdoms of the masters” and access to pure being, what it’s like to die, what he has to offer, wanting everything he makes to be sacred, not finishing anything, and making art that you don’t have to talk about!

Patricia Miller is a visionary manufacturing leader, driving growth and innovation at M4. Under her leadership, M4 was named an Inc 5000 Fastest Growing Company two years in a row. In 2018, Patricia was named to Crain’s Chicago 40 under 40 honoree. Four years ago, Patricia left a successful career in the biotech space to return to her manufacturing roots. She decided to buy her grandpa’s failing business and run it like a start-up, using everything she had learned from her Fortune 500 career in marketing, her passion for entrepreneurship and her creative eye for design to turn M4 into a new kind of maker. She and Zuckerman discuss both morning and evening rituals and how to bookend a work day, her practice of “dating” each new city that she moves to, introducing the importance of art and design to people definitely not originally open to it, and all the things she loves!

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Alisha B. Wormsley is an interdisciplinary artist and cultural producer based in Pittsburgh, PA, USA. Her work is about collective memory and the synchronicity of time, specifically through the stories of women of color. She states her work is "the future, and the past, and the present, simultaneously. Wormsley has an MFA in Film and Video from Bard College and was awarded  the Postdoctoral Research fellowship in art at Carnegie Mellon University.  She and Zuckerman discuss motherhood, artist moms, and how to help; matriarchal mystery spaces, reciprocity and agreements, and the release found in spirituality.

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Paul Laster is a writer, editor, curator, artist and lecturer. He is a contributing editor at ArtAsiaPacific and Whitehot Magazine of Contemporary Art and writer for Time Out New York, Harper’s Bazaar Arabia, Galerie Magazine, Sculpture, Cultured, Architectural Digest, Surface, and others. He started The Daily Beast’s art section, and was art editor of Russell Simmons’ OneWorld Magazine. We discuss the punk movement, MoMA’s film program, the business of being an artist, the global art scene, how to pitch story ideas, trust, and things we don’t like.

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Daniel Arsham straddles the line between art, architecture, and performance. He makes architecture do things that it’s not supposed to. From casting contemporary objects in volcanic ash as if found on some future archaeological site to collaborating with Merce Cunningham, Robert Wilson, and Pharrell Williams to founding Snarkitecture, Arsham brings experimentation, historical inquiry, playfulness, and wit to everything he does. He and Zuckerman discuss the dislocation of time, geological forms of growth, allowing for chance, the relationship between collaboration and expanding audience, and doing things that are hard!

References:

Camera sculpture “Future Relic 02” - https://www.danielarsham.com/shop/camera

MOCA Miami - https://mocanomi.org

Merce Cunningham - https://www.mercecunningham.org

Adidas x Daniel Arsham - https://www.adidas.com/com/apps/danielarshamnew/

Bruce Nauman - https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/bruce-nauman

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Yves Béhar, Founder and Principal Designer of fuseproject, is a designer, educator, and entrepreneur who believes that integrated product, brand, and experience design are the cornerstones of any business. He is also the two-time recipient of the INDEX Award, making him the only designer to have received the prestigious award twice. Yves is an industry veteran at the forefront of entrepreneurial venture design, co-founding August, FORME Life, and Canopy. He and Zuckerman discuss opportunity, how we can change the way we live, the importance of meaning in life, the generosity and humanity of design, creating memorable moments, and his love of dreamers!

References:

Fuseproject - https://www.fuseproject.com/

One Laptop Per Child - https://fuseproject.com/work/olpc-xo-laptop

See Better To Learn Better - https://www.fuseproject.com/blog/see-better-to-learn-better-2

Mary O’Malley - “What’s in the way is the way”

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Ezinma first picked up the violin when she was three-years old. Born in Lincoln, Nebraska to a Guyanese father and a German-American mother, Ezinma's mixed cultural and ethnic background influenced her musical upbringing and helped mold her into the versatile artist she is today. She has performed at Carnegie Hall, Lincoln Center, and Madison Square Garden. She was inspired to create a new sound with her classical violin. Her music is a blend of virtuosic melodies and orchestral soundscapes with hard hitting beats. She has collaborated with artists such as Beyoncé, Stevie Wonder, Mac Miller, and Clean Bandit. She and Zuckerman discussed her morning practice routine, using beauty as a form of self-care, the sculpting of the spaces between things, how she never had a squeaky stage, the stories found within classical music, manifesting working with Beyoncé, and why we must never apologize!

References:

Oura Ring - https://ouraring.com

Bryson Tiller - https://www.billboard.com/music/bryson-tiller

Todd Reynolds - http://www.toddreynolds.com

DIY box violin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHsJEAGmcA

Heartstrings Foundation - https://www.ezinma.com/heartstrings

Derek Dixie - https://genius.com/artists/Derek-dixie

Beyoncé - https://www.beyonce.com

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Musically Rufus Wainwright has collaborated with artists including Elton John, David Byrne, Boy George, Joni Mitchell, Pet Shop Boys and producer Mark Ronson among others. In addition to being a celebrated contemporary pop singer, Rufus has made a name for himself in the classical world. Heidi visited Rufus at his LA home and they talked about what soothes his soul, a cultural movement to turn off our devices, rhyming, why reading matters, and the why and how of being an active conduit for ideas!

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