Elif Shafak is a best selling author, a political scientist and an advocate for women’s rights, LGBTQ+ rights and freedom of expression.

In this episode Julia and Elif journey on a candid and deep conversation about Elif’s childhood in Turkey, what drew her to writing, and the lengths she’s had to go to keep telling the stories of those who are often silenced.

They also delve into Elif’s spectacular new novel There are Rivers in the Sky, and discuss why tackling the world’s water crisis is critical for the safety of women and girls.

Show notes:

Elif’s new novel There are Rivers in the Sky is published by Penguin and is available at all good book stores.

To learn more about Elif and her work go to https://www.elifsafak.com.tr/home

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In this month’s Book Club episode, Julia and Kathy Lette explore Knife: Meditations After an Attempted Murder by internationally-renowned author, Salman Rushdie.

In his memoir, the Booker Prize winner recounts the horrifying moment he was stabbed, almost to death, while on stage in upstate New York, preparing to deliver a lecture on keeping writers safe from harm.

Julia and Kathy examine his incredible literary career, his life under 24-hour surveillance and the fatwa which led to the frenzied attack, reigniting debate around freedom of speech.

Kathy - a close friend of Rushdie's - also shares her personal insights of helping to care for him while he was in hiding and details his remarkable road to recovery.

Show notes:

• Knife: Meditations After an Attempted Murder by Salman Rushdie is published by Penguin and available at all good bookstores: https://www.penguin.com.au/books/knife-9781787334809

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In this episode, Julia sits down with activist, sexual consent champion and a voice for her generation, Chanel Contos. Chanel was a catalyst for transforming how consent education works in Australia. In 2021, aged just 22, she sparked a national media storm when she exposed the alarming level of sexual assault in Sydney private schools. From here, the “Teach Us Consent” Campaign was born –  an online petition asking for sexual consent education in Australian schools, which quickly gained more than 44,000 signatures supported by over 6,500 testimonies of sexual assault. And less just a year later in 2022, this ground-breaking campaign resulted in fundamental changes to the Australian curriculum when holistic and age-appropriate consent education was introduced in every school, across every age group.

Chanel takes us through this whirlwind journey – from that first day back in 2021, up until today, and reflects on everything she’s been up to along the way. From publishing her first book, Consent Laid Bare, to her work with young changemakers as the Chair of the Global Institute for Women's Leadership's Youth Committee. She and Julia talk activist burnout, how to engage everyone (especially young men and boys) in the conversation around consent, their optimism for the future and why it’s so important to be ruthless with systems and kind with people if we want to achieve lasting cultural change.

CW: This episode covers themes of consent and sexual violence, and parts of this conversation may be distressing for some listeners. If this brings up anything for you, help is available by contacting the 24-hour national counselling service 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732.

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In the final episode of 2023, Julia takes a look back at the incredible conversations of Season 5.

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Sam Mostyn has had a formidable career in executive positions, working across business, sport, climate change, the arts, policy and not for profit.

She recently led the Women’s Economic Equality Taskforce, and was the first woman AFL Commissioner, where she spearheaded the creation of a women’s league. 

Now Sam is taking over from Julia as Chair of Beyond Blue, Australia’s leading mental health support service.

In this episode, Julia and Sam discuss mental health, gender equality and how women can succeed in what is often still very much a man’s world.

Show notes

• If you need mental health support visit Beyond Blue | 24/7 Support for Anxiety, Depression and Suicide Prevention
• If you need crisis support call Lifeline on 13 11 14

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Elly Desmarchelier is a proud disabled woman who uses her voice to advocate for the 1 in 5 Australians living with disability. 

Elly was the public face of a national campaign to maintain and defend the integrity of Australia’s National Disability Insurance Scheme, taking the fight all the way to Parliament House in Canberra.

Elly and Julia discuss the barriers and discrimination Elly has faced and overcome throughout her life, and her determination to pave a smoother path for the next generation.

Show notes: You can find out more about Australia's Disability Royal Commission at: Royal Commission into Violence, Abuse, Neglect and Exploitation of People with Disability

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In this episode, Julia is joined by music legend, humanitarian and activist, Annie Lennox. Hailed as one of the 100 Greatest Singers of All Time by Rolling Stone, Annie has won more Brit Awards than any other female artist in history, sold over 80 million records worldwide as a solo artist and in Eurythmics with Dave Stewart and was named "the most successful female British artist in UK music history" by the Official Charts Company in June 2013.  

In 2011, Annie was awarded an OBE for her contribution towards combating HIV/AIDS as it affects women and children in Africa and in 2008, she founded the global women’s rights organisation, The Circle.

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Turia Pitt is the epitome of determination and grit.

She’s been defying expectations ever since she was caught in a grassfire at 24, suffering burns to 65% of her body.

Surviving against overwhelming odds, she’s rebuilt her life and is now a business owner, writer, motivational speaker and Mum.

Julia and Turia discuss the day that changed her life forever, how she forged a new path for herself and the gender inequality that persists in Australia.

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Angela Rayner is the Deputy Leader of the British Labour Party. She has a remarkable life story, which she shared with Julia at a live event hosted by The Global Institute for Women's Leadership at King's College London.

In this episode, you'll hear that conversation, recorded live from the event. Angela not only spoke to Julia about her own life, but they also discussed the gendered barriers on the political frontline and what a general election in the United Kingdom would mean for women.

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When the Taliban seized control of Afghanistan in 2021 after two decades of democratic rule, the world watched in horror. Despite initial promises that women would be able to exercise their rights within Sharia Law, the Taliban has systematically excluded women and girls from public life.

In the months that have followed, the situation has only grown more desperate for Afghanistan’s women, who now live under one of the most restrictive regimes in the world. They are unable to access secondary education, travel without a male relative, and even more recently have been banned from attending universities and working for aid organisations, further erasing professional and public opportunities.

To keep the spotlight on this worsening crisis – which is only being compounded by economic sanctions and the near-total isolation of Afghanistan in a global context – The Global Institute for Women’s Leadership hosted a conversation about women’s rights under the Taliban. In this episode, you’ll hear that discussion, recorded live from the event at King’s College London.

For this conversation, Julia sat down with Zahra Joya, journalist and founder of Rukhshana Media, an organisation that tells the stories of Afghan women globally; Christina Lamb, the Chief Foreign Correspondent for The Sunday Times; Paula Kweskin, a filmmaker and attorney specialising in international humanitarian and human rights law; and Sveto Muhammad Ishoq, a women's rights activist, TEDx speaker and social entrepreneur.

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Gayle Tzemach Lemmon is an author of three New York Times best-selling books: The Dressmaker of Khair Khana, about a young entrepreneur who supported her community under the Taliban, Ashley's War, which follows a special ops unit of women in the US army, and The Daughters of Kobani, the extraordinary story of the women in the Kurdish militia that took on ISIS and won.

She serves as a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and, as a journalist, has written on women's entrepreneurship, forced marriage and women in the military for outlets including The New York Times, The Financial Times, The World Bank, The Atlantic and CNN.

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In this special episode of A Podcast of One’s Own, we take you inside Julia’s sold out Sydney Writers’ Festival event at the Sydney Town Hall with Indira Naidoo.

More than a decade on from what is now known as the Misogyny Speech, Julia and Indira discuss the speech’s origins, where we are today and the future for women leaders. 

The event was recorded live by the ABC’s Compass program, which is hosted by Indira.

Show notes 

• You can watch Compass with Indira Naidoo at Compass : ABC iview
• Julia Gillard’s book Not Now, Not Ever: Ten years on from the misogyny speech is available to purchase at Not Now, Not Ever by Julia Gillard - Penguin Books Australia
• More information about the Sydney Writers’ Festival can be found at Sydney Writers' Festival (swf.org.au)

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In this episode Julia sits down with Domtila Chesang, an incredibly courageous woman who has dedicated her life to ending female genital mutilation in her home country, Kenya. 

In this powerful conversation Domtila explains how the devastatingly harmful practice impacts girls and women around the world, and how she’s working to educate and empower communities in order to stamp it out.

She details the pivotal moment in her life that started her journey as an activist. 

Julia and Domtila also discuss her selection as the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership’s first Changemaker - a program aimed at empowering activists dedicated to advancing gender equality.

CW: This episode discusses female genital mutilation and parts of this conversation may be distressing for some listeners. If this brings up anything for you, help is available by contacting the 24-hour national counselling service 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732.

To learn more about Domtila's work visit https://irepfoundation.org/

To learn more about the Changemakers program visit https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/changemakers

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In this episode Julia speaks with Roanna McClelland - an author, an academic researcher, a political adviser, a former colleague and a friend. 

Roanna has just published her first book, The Comforting Weight of Water, which is set in a near future where it never stops raining and a young adolescent runs wild. The story explores coming of age when society – and all its cues – have been washed away.

Water, the environment and exploring the relationship between humans and the natural world are not just themes of Roanna’s book, they are themes of her life and she pursues them as an active feminist and deep thinker on gender inequality.

Show notes

• Roanna McClelland’s book The Comforting Weight of Water is available at all good bookstores and here: Wakefield Press :: Literature - Fiction :: The Comforting Weight of Water

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Founded in 2012, the Stella Prize is a major literary award celebrating Australian women’s writing, and championing diversity and cultural change.

To celebrate the 2023 award, Julia sat down with this year’s winner, poet Sarah Holland-Batt.

Sarah’s work, The Jaguar, is a deeply personal collection of poems canvassing different dimensions of love, loss and beauty. It delves particularly into her beloved father’s long journey with Parkinson’s, and the profound effect it had on Sarah and her family.

Julia and Sarah speak candidly about grief, love and solving poetry's PR problem.

Show notes

• Learn more about the Stella Prize at https://stella.org.au/prize/
• The 2023 winning book The Jaguar is available at https://www.readings.com.au/product/9780702265501/the-jaguar--sarah-holland-batt--2022--9780702265501

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In this episode, Julia is joined by Dr Elise Stephenson to take a deep dive into gender equality in space. They unpack some of the major barriers facing women and marginalised groups in the industry – everything from equipment failures to inadequate research – and explore the unprecedented opportunities the rapidly developing space sector presents for improving the lives of generations to come by building a sustainable and gender-equal future.

Elise is the Deputy Director of the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership at the Australian National University and her research seeks to tackle gender inequality at the frontiers – in areas such as climate justice, international affairs, and even outer space. Elise has been recognised with multiple awards for her research, including as a Google Top 50 Outstanding LGBTQI+ Leader and a 2022 Fulbright Scholar.

• Watch a the signature event from our Diversity on the Frontier conference: https://youtu.be/BXesd4xES0s
• Get involved in our diversity in space research: ow.ly/r16x50NMvho

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In 2020, Dame Sharon White became the first-ever woman to become chair of John Lewis & Partners, the largest employee-owned business in the UK. In 2022 she was named the UK’s most influential black person in the Powerlist awards. She was the first woman to lead the UK’s media regulator, Ofcom, and she came to that position after a distinguished career in Treasury, the Department for International Development and the World Bank. 

In the week of International Women’s Day, Julia sat down with Sharon to discuss her career journey and her views on how to work towards greater gender equality in the workplace and beyond. They were joined by Kelly Beaver, the first female Chief Executive of Ipsos in the UK and Ireland, who shared findings from a new survey from the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership and Ipsos looking at global attitudes to gender equality.

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Angela Saini is an award-winning science journalist and author. She has worked as a reporter for numerous media outlets including the BBC, the Guardian, New Scientist and National Geographic. In 2020, Angela was named one of the World’s Top 50 Thinkers by Prospect Magazine and in 2018 she was voted one of the most respected journalists in the UK.

Angela has written Superior: The Return of Race Science, which was published in 2019 to widespread critical acclaim, and Inferior: How Science Got Women Wrong, which has been translated into fourteen languages. Both are on university reading lists across the world. Her latest book, The Patriarchs: How Men Came to Rule, is released this month and explores the roots of gendered oppression and how patriarchal systems became embedded in societies and spread across the globe.

The Patriarchs is available to order from independent UK bookshops here: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-patriarchs-how-men-came-to-rule-angela-saini/6898353?ean=9780008418113, and in Australia here: https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-patriarchs-angela-saini/book/9780008418113.html.

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Regina Waugh has been working in public service for over a decade to advance the rights of marginalised groups, champion gender equality and advocate for the LGBTQ+ community. Regina served as the Obama administration’s director for human rights and gender at the White House National Security Council and as the chief of staff in the Secretary’s Office of Global Women’s Issues at the US Department of State. Today, she is working with the International Foundation for Electoral Systems to support female leaders and advance gender equality in the electoral process.

Regina and Julia discuss how we can address barriers to women’s political participation, such as violence against women in politics both online and off, uneven access to electoral justice, and restrictive gender norms. We’re releasing this episode to coincide with the 16 Days of Action Against Domestic Violence; an international campaign that calls for the prevention and elimination of violence against women and girls. Find out more about the campaign, and what you can do to support its mission, here: https://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/ending-violence-against-women/unite/16-days-of-activism.

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On 9 October 2012, Julia Gillard stood in Parliament House and delivered one of the most impassioned and iconic speeches in the history of Australian politics. The “misogyny speech” reverberated around the world and continues to reach further into our collective consciousness to this day. Julia’s words were a call to arms from the highest office in the nation – that misogyny and sexism should no longer be tolerated, because women are entitled to a better standard in private, public and professional life, and ten years on, her speech continues to inspire and challenge us to call out sexism and misogyny in every field. 

Julia sat down with historian Mary Beard earlier this month at an event to mark the ten-year anniversary, explore the legacy of the speech today and look at what's next in the fight for gender equality. In this episode, you’ll hear that conversation, recorded live from the event for the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership at King’s College London.

During the conversation, Mary and Julia discuss Julia's new book, Not Now, Not Ever: Ten years on from the misogyny speech, which features contributions from Mary Beard, Jess Hill, Jennifer Palmieri, Katharine Murphy and many others. All profits from the book go to the Global Institute for Women's Leadership to support our research and advocacy work. You can find out more about the book here: https://www.penguin.com.au/books/not-now-not-ever-9780143779759.

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Rosie Campbell is professor of politics and Director of the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership at King’s College London, where she works with Julia. Rosie has authored research on voting behaviour, public opinion and the politics of diversity and political recruitment.

In this episode, Julia asks Rosie about women’s participation in politics and gendered patterns of support for the populist radical right. Julia and Rosie also discuss the main issues facing women that risk stalling gender equality over the next decade, and how we can accelerate the rate of change and advance women’s access to leadership.

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Listeners are advised that this episode contains discussion of suicide. If you need support at any time, please call Beyond Blue 1300 22 4636 or Lifeline on 13 11 14

In this powerful episode, Julia is joined by renowned journalist, radio presenter, and author Indira Naidoo to explore acceptance, grief, love, and the healing powers of nature.

During her 30 odd year career, Indira has hosted and reported for numerous news and current affairs shows, becoming a well-known and celebrated personality on Australian TV.

Today, you can hear her voice on the ABC’s Nightline program. She will also be hosting two live events with Julia in Melbourne and Sydney this October to commemorate ten years since ‘The Misogyny Speech’.

In 2000, Indira branched out beyond full-time news broadcasting to pursue advocacy based around global environmental problems and linking these to conflict, poverty, equity and food security. She has also become an advocate for food-gardening and design, publishing the Edible Balcony and The Edible City.

Indira’s latest book The Space Between the Stars is an entirely different offering which provides a deeply personal exploration of Indira’s views of love, loss, and the restorative powers of nature, which she wrote following her youngest sister’s death by suicide.

Julia and Indira discuss the incredible bond Indira shared with her sisters, and how the enduring power of sisterhood helped to carry her through life’s most difficult times.  

You can purchase Indira's book, The Space Between the Stars here.

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In this month’s Book Club episode, Julia and Sarah Holland-Batt discuss The Wren, The Wren by Man Booker prize winner, Anne Enright.

Shortlisted for the 2024 Women’s Prize for Fiction, the novel is told in three voices and explores an Irish family’s love, betrayal and intergenerational trauma.

Julia and Sarah delve into Enright’s poetry and unique writing style.

Show notes:

• The Wren, The Wren by Anne Enright is published by Penguin and available at all good bookstores: https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-wren-the-wren-9781529922905

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Dr Lina AbiRafeh is a global women’s rights expert and gender equality advocate. She has spent more than two decades working to eradicate gender-based violence worldwide, working in more than 20 countries, including Afghanistan, Haiti, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nepal, and many more.

Lina previously served as the director of the Arab Institute for Women at the Lebanese American University and has worked as an advisor and aid worker for various human rights and development organisations, including the World Bank and several United Nations agencies.

In 2018 and 2019 she was listed among the Gender Equality Top 100 most influential people in Global Policy for her research and dedication to gender-based violence prevention.

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Baroness Helena Kennedy is one of Britain’s most distinguished lawyers and has dedicated her more than forty-year career to giving voice to those who have least power within the system. Helena has worked on some of the UK’s most high-profile cases, including the appeal by the Guildford Four, who were wrongly accused and imprisoned for planting an IRA bomb in a pub used by British soldiers. She is also a leading voice for equal opportunities for women working in law and has championed reforms to address the discrimination experienced by women in the legal system, especially relating to sexual and domestic violence.

In this episode, Helena shares what sparked her love affair with the law and how she bucked convention to become one of Britain's leading barristers at a time when women were largely excluded from the legal profession. She and Julia discuss her landmark human rights cases, and also delve into her recent work on the #EvacuateHer campaign to provide support to female judges, lawyers, women’s rights activists, human rights defenders and their families who were at risk after the Taliban's resurgence in Afghanistan.

• Learn more about the #EvacuateHer campaign here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-afghan-judges-lawyers-womens-activists

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Earlier this month, Queen Elizabeth II became the first British monarch to celebrate a Platinum Jubilee after 70 years of service. In this special Spotlight episode, we’ll be exploring her historic reign and what it can teach us about gender roles and female leadership.

For this conversation, Julia is joined by Anna Whitelock a historian, author and broadcaster who specialises in monarchy. Anna is a Professor of the History of Monarchy at City, University of London, and Director of the Centre for the Study of Modern Monarchy.

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Our Spotlight episodes take a deep-dive into the latest news, issues and ideas on women and gender equality, and feature incredible researchers from the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership at King’s College London and beyond. 

In this episode, Julia is joined by Andrea Ellner, a Lecturer in Defence Studies at King’s College London who specialises in gender, war, and security, to explore how the Ukraine war is impacting women and girls.

If you would like to support women in Ukraine, you can donate to the UN Women’s emergency Ukraine appeal here: https://www.unwomenuk.org/ukraine

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Now in its 10th year, the Stella Prize is a major literary award celebrating Australian women’s writing and championing diversity and cultural change.

To celebrate the 2022 prize, Julia sits down with Evelyn Araluen, this year’s prize winner, to discuss her award-winning debut book, Drop Bear, which weaves together past and present, her personal history and the story of indigenous Australia through powerful lyrical verse. Evelyn shares her writing experience, her journey into poetry and what it’s been like being recognised by the prize.

Julia also speaks with Jaclyn Booton, the Executive Director of the Stella Prize, about how it was established and why it is so important to spotlight Australian women’s writing. Evie Wyld also joins this bumper episode to share her experience as the 2021 prize winner and talk about her critically acclaimed novel, The Bass Rock. 

Show notes

• Learn more about the Stella Prize at https://stella.org.au/prize/
• The 2022 Prize winning book, Drop Bear by Evelyn Araluen is available in Australia at https://www.uqp.com.au/books/dropbear
• The 2021 Prize winning novel, The Bass Rock by Evie Wyld is available in Australia at https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-bass-rock-9781761045301 and in the UK at https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-bass-rock/evie-wyld/9781784705497

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In this special episode – which is a recording from a live Global Institute for Women’s Leadership event held in London in the week of International Women’s Day, in partnership with Ipsos UK – Julia speaks to Theresa May, who in 2016 became only the second woman to serve as UK prime minister.

The two former leaders sat down to discuss their experiences at the highest level of politics, the obstacles they faced, and what we can do to improve gender equality and women's political representation.

You can watch the full event at https://tinyurl.com/MayGillardIWD.

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To celebrate International Women’s Day, we’re bringing you a special episode of the podcast. This will be the first of our Spotlight series, where we take a deep-dive into the latest research, news and ideas on gender equality and hear from incredible researchers at the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership and beyond.

We’re delighted to be joined today by Kelly Beaver, the recently appointed Chief Executive of Ipsos UK, and first woman to hold that role. Ahead of International Women's Day, Kelly's fantastic team have partnered with the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership on a new global survey of more than 20,000 people across 30 countries looking at attitudes to gender equality, feminism, harassment, abuse and more. Here, she unpacks some of the findings.

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A remarkably similar proportion of mums and dads would like to work flexibly to spend more time with their children – yet mothers are much more likely to work part-time than fathers. These patterns can be ingrained early. In the UK, fathers and non-childbearing parents are eligible to take up to 50 weeks of shared parental leave, but estimates for uptake vary from just 0.5% to 8%. These unequal divisions of parental care and flexible working are significant drivers of the gender pay gap. So, what can we do to fix them and better support men to share the care?

In this bonus episode – a recording from a GIWL event last year – Julia is joined by a panel of experts to discuss these issues:

• Ed Miliband, Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, and the author of Go Big: How To Fix Our World
• Shoshana Davidson, Principal Advisor, Equalities, Diversity & Inclusion at the Behavioural Insights Team
• Drew Gibson, Senior Manager for Inclusion at Santander UK

For more information, you can download Shoshana’s presentation from the event here: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/giwl/assets/share-the-care-event-slides.pdf

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Katrina Gorry is a trailblazer on and off the pitch. Last year she stole our hearts in her record-breaking performance in the FIFA Women’s World Cup, making the highest number of tackles and covering the most ground of any player in the tournament. Katrina helped the Matildas reach the semi-finals for the first time ever, catapulting her and the rest of the team to the status of national treasures and putting women’s football on the map in Australia for the first time.

Speaking to Julia just after the birth of her second child Koby earlier this month, Katrina tells the remarkable story of her journey to motherhood and how she has balanced her lifelong dream of having a family alongside an elite sporting career.

As she prepares for the upcoming Paris Olympics, she reflects on the legacy of last year’s World Cup, how much progress has been achieved for women’s sports and what still needs to change to truly level the playing field.

In this episode, Julia and Katrina discuss her moving Australian Story documentary. This is available to watch on the ABC Youtube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GfhN0rdTS8

Katrina also references the Matildas’ Trailblazers documentary, which is essential viewing for anyone interested in learning more about the history of the Matildas, women’s football more broadly, and the ongoing battle for equal pay in the sport. The documentary is available to watch on Stan and you can find out more here: https://www.stan.com.au/watch/trailblazers-2024.

This conversation touches on themes of eating disorders. If this issue affects you or someone you know, Butterfly offers free confidential support. You can call their National Helpline on 1800 33 4673, chat online or email.

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On the back of her hit television show 'Ms Represented', documenting the last 100 years since women were elected to the Australian parliament, much loved journalist Annabel Crabb talks with Julia about the history, power and influence of women in Australian politics, and what she has seen to be one of the most exciting developments in politics in the last few years. 

In this episode, Annabel also explores her own career as a journalist from young cadet at the Adelaide Advertiser to a stalwart of the Canberra press pack; and the difference it makes to have more senior women in the Press Gallery.

They also delve into the impact of Covid-19, both for Annabel and women more generally, and how the issues of inequality highlighted through the pandemic might flow through to the upcoming federal election. 

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Julia is joined by Helen Clark, the 37th Prime Minister of New Zealand and the second woman to ever hold the position. Since stepping away from frontline politics in 2008, Helen has continued her vital work on the world stage, most notably as the first female head of the United Nations Development Programme and as co-chair of the independent panel set up by the WHO to learn lessons from the coronavirus outbreak. 

She and Julia discuss the impact of the pandemic, the damaging effects of gender stereotypes on female politicians, and why having women in office is so important to inspire the next generation of female leaders.

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Julia is joined by Michelle Ryan, a Professor of Social and Organisational Psychology who famously uncovered the phenomenon of the glass cliff, whereby women (and members of other minority groups) are more likely to be placed in leadership positions that are risky or precarious.

Julia and Michelle discuss how this phenomenon has played out during the pandemic, how Covid-19 has impacted progress towards gender equality more generally and why we should interrogate seemingly empowering messages for women to “lean in” to development opportunities.

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Jenny Macklin was the longest serving woman in Australia’s House of Representatives, and was the first woman to become the Deputy Leader of a major Australian political party. She served in parliament alongside Julia and was instrumental in driving some of the most important policy reforms in Australia’s contemporary history, including the country’s first national Paid Parental Leave Scheme and the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

In this episode, Jenny and Julia reflect on the importance of female representation in government, the need for competition between women, what more needs to be done to combat the misogynistic treatment of female politicians, and how parliament can effect positive change for women in Australia and beyond.

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Cordelia Fine is an academic psychologist and author who brings her work challenging gender misconceptions in science to a wider audience through her best-selling books, including Testosterone Rex: Unmaking the Myths of Our Gendered Minds, which was the Royal Society science book of the year in 2017. In this episode, Julia and Cordelia discuss encounters with sexism in their early school years, how the male and female brain are not as different as is traditionally understood, and how inequality between the sexes is cultural not natural.

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In this episode of Julia's Book Club, Julia and Sarah Holland-Batt sit down together in London to discuss The Sun Walks Down, by Australian author Fiona McFarlane.

The Sun Walks Down tells the story of a remote South Australian town in the 1880s where a young boy has gone missing during a dust storm.

As the community rallies to find 6 year old Denny Wallace, readers experience the search, the town dynamics and the complex landscape surrounding them from the perspective of various characters, including Denny’s family, Indigenous trackers, Afghan cameleers, policemen, mothers, children and farmers. 

Julia and Sarah delve into the book’s exploration of colonialism, race and gender, and how it challenges the stereotypical narrative of a child lost in the bush.

Show notes

• The Sun Walks Down by Fiona McFarlane is published by Allen & Unwin and is available at all good bookstores - https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Fiona-McFarlane-Sun-Walks-Down-9781761066207

• To learn more about co-host Sarah Holland-Batt visit https://www.sarahhollandbatt.com

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In this episode, Julia is joined by Wiradjuri woman and acclaimed Australian author, Tara June Winch. Tara’s incredible 2019 novel, The Yield, earned critical recognition, including the Prime Minister’s Literary Award for fiction, the Christina Stead Prize for Fiction, and the Miles Franklin Literary Award.

Julia and Tara discuss the power of storytelling to give voice to underrepresented communities, and why we need to rethink the literary canon to make space for more diverse voices. 

Tara also shares the incredible and unlikely story of how she became an author; and how she went from not completing high school to having her first novel on the school curriculum studied across Australian classrooms.

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In this episode, we welcome our first Nobel Prize winner to the podcast. Esther Duflo is Professor of Poverty Alleviation and Development Economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and in 2019 won the Nobel Prize for Economics, making her the youngest person and only the second woman ever to receive this award.

We discuss Esther’s remarkable career journey, her research into the relationship between female leaders and women’s empowerment in India, and the role of economics as “a lever of action for the world”.

Economics is a notoriously un-diverse field and has a long history of systematic sexism. So we also spoke to Esther about her experience navigating this “locker room” culture, how we can get more women into economics, and what the future holds for the field following the #MeToo movement.

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In this episode, Julia is joined by Alice Albright, the Chief Executive Officer of the Global Partnership for Education. The GPE is the largest global fund solely dedicated to transforming education in lower-income countries and works to put gender equality at the heart of national education systems.

Alice discusses how girls’ education is essential to advancing women’s empowerment globally, how Covid-19 has restricted opportunities for girls around the world, and how we can address this in order to build back better after the pandemic. 

Alice also walks us through her career journey, sharing her experience of working on Wall Street in the 1980s and how she overcame misogyny to rise up the ranks despite the hyper-masculine work environment.

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On this episode, we welcome Patricia Kingori, Professor in Sociology and Global Health Ethics at the University of Oxford, who has been recognised by the Powerlist as one of the most influential Black women academics in the UK for her research into fakes, fabrications and falsehoods.

Patricia explains how the origins of “fake news” predate Trumpian politics and how misleading stories have a history of disproportionately impacting women and communities of colour. 

She and Julia also discuss the role of misinformation in the Covid-19 crisis and how it can have real-world public health implications, particularly as countries struggle to emerge from the pandemic and build confidence in vaccines.

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