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S5E35: Blackbrush and the Desert's Long Memory23 Oct 202600:37:21

Blackbrush, Coleogyne ramosissima, is easy to overlook. It’s tiny, dark leaves and gray stems can make a stretch of landscape look at best boring, at worst funereal. But this rose family plant’s low, dense canopy helps shape desert plant communities, and gives desert animals an important food source. Nurse plants shelter vulnerable seedlings from heat, drying winds, and hungry animals. Blackbrush may well be the most important nurse plant for Joshua trees.

Long-lived adults, episodic seed production, rodent seed caches, and suppressed young plants help blackbrush stands persist. But blackbrush isn’t well adapted to what North America’s hot deserts have become. Research in the Panamint Mountains shows why rebuilding a mature desert shrub community can take far longer than replacing its individual plants.

Protecting existing blackbrush matters as warming and disturbance make natural recovery harder.

Also, you still have a few days left to apply for our Fellowship for Desert Reporting, viewable at https://thedamn.org/fellowship.

Sources cited, plus extras:

 

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S5E34: Chihuahuan Desert 101 with Dr. Kevin Floyd16 Oct 202600:43:33
  • we realized that our continent's easternmost desert, the Chihuahuan Desert, is not as well known in many ways as its sister deserts like the Mojave and Sonoran. And we had to do what we can to rectify that! So in this episode, Chris chats with Dr. Kevin Floyd, botanical curator of the Chihuahuan Desert Gardens at the University of Texas at El Paso, about what life is like in the Chihuahuan Desert. Kevin discusses:
  • Elevation, winter freezes, and summer monsoon rains.
  • Why no one really agrees on the precise boundaries of the Chihuahuan Desert
  • The small cacti, agaves, yuccas, that thrive in the desert’s grassland landscapes
  • Native bees, birds, bats, and the connections between plant diversity and animal life.
  • Bighorn sheep in the Franklin Mountains, road mortality, and the case for wildlife crossings.
  • How native landscaping and reduced pesticide use help support local food webs.

Our first taste of a new batch of Fred Bell’s nature recordings features coyotes around Furnace Creek Campground in Death Valley National Park. And Chris reflects on storm damage, past and future. Check on your neighbors!

Also! We've extended two deadlines. Our Fellowship for Desert Reporting is still accepting applications until October 31, and you can still be the first to submit an answer to our bird ID quiz from last week! Listen to the Fred Bell recording in S5E33; the first three emails received at chris@90milesfromneedles.com that correctly identify the birds in the audio by October 22 win a 90 Miles from Needles T-shirt.

Links and Resources:

Desert Diaries Podcast: https://www.ktep.org/podcast/desert-diaries

Chihuahuan Desert Gardens at UTEP: https://www.utep.edu/centennial-museum/chihuahuan-desert-gardens/

Kevin Floyd and Daniel Carey-Whalen staff profiles: https://www.utep.edu/centennial-museum/about/people.html

Fellowship for Desert Reporting: https://thedamn.org/fellowship

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S5E33: From Starfleet to the Sonoran Desert: Coping With a Burro Onslaught08 Oct 202600:44:55

Listeners in Joshua Tree and Moab may think their homes are overrun with jackasses, but this episode's guest has got them beat. We talk with Dr. Jennifer Anderson, whose diverse career has brought her to stewarding 300 acres of Sonoran Desert landscape in Mohave County, Arizona. But restoring her former 19th Century mine site has not proved as straightforward as Anderson had imagined. Western Arizona landscapes — and others throughout the deserts — are contending with a huge increase in the numbers of feral burros, introduced centuries ago but newly prospering at the expense of the desert. Anderson details the impact her unwanted guests have caused to her part of the desert, and the cascade of unpleasant effects that stem from the donkeys' presence as well as the inability of land management agencies to contend with the issue.

Plus! Our first ever listener contest: correctly identify all the birds in Fred Bell's nature audio and message Chris, and you may win a 90 Miles from Needles T-shirt. The first three listeners who email Chris with a correct ID, a t-shirt size, and a mailing address will get some mail from us.

Citation links and further reading

Guest and episode links

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S5E32: Hiding Big Projects in Small Pieces02 Oct 202600:31:30

As promised a few episodes back, Chris explores a sneaky trick developers sometimes try to use to evade legally required environmental analysis of their projects. Segmentation, the term of art for dividing a large project into smaller pieces to obscure the environmental impacts of the whole project, is likely to become more frequent as the Trump administration keeps hacking away at environmental protection laws.

Chris provides a handful of illuminating examples:

  • Cadiz gets the Interior Department to assess the company’s Northern Pipeline separately from the pumping it would enable, prompting new desert protection lawsuits.
  • A non-desert example: 14 years ago, frontline community groups successfully challenged an upgrading of Chevron Oil’s refinery on Richmond, California. Though their allegations of segmentation (called “piecemealing” in California state law) didn’t sway a judge, the case illustrates how reasonable people can disagree on what constitutes segmentation.  
  • As the Federal approach to NEPA changes, Chris briefly examines what the erosion of CEQ regulations means for protecting the public and the environment from improperly segmented project proposals.
  • An Imperial County victory: the court overturned a data center’s lot merger approval and required environmental review of the entire development.
  • Fred Bell shares the dawn chorus from Sabino Canyon in Tucson.
  • Apply for DAMN’s Fellowship for Desert Reporting, and support independent desert journalism through a donation to 90 Miles from Needles.

Cadiz lawsuit by Tribal Nations, NALC and NPCA, July 28, 2026: identifies plaintiffs and explains their objections to separate pipeline review.

Cadiz lawsuit by the Center for Biological Diversity and Sierra Club, July 28, 2026: Earthjustice’s account of the parallel challenge.

NPCA and NALC’s 2021 Northern Pipeline lawsuit: background on the earlier approval and litigation.

Communities for a Better Environment v. City of Richmond, 2010 appellate opinion: the decision distinguishes the successful project-description and greenhouse-gas claims from the rejected piecemealing claim.

Earthjustice on the Richmond refinery appeal: the community groups’ account of the outcome.

City of Imperial data center information and court documents: includes the September 9, 2026 decision, tentative decision, petitions and project documents.

KPBS coverage of the September 9 data center ruling: accessible explanation of the ruling.

Department of Energy history of CEQ regulations: official timeline and links to the rescission rules.

January 8, 2026 CEQ final rule: official Federal Register publication.

Podcast and support links

S5E1: Standing Up to Tech Giants: Desert Locals vs. California’s Largest Data Center

Fellowship for Desert Reporting

Support 90 Miles from Needles

Copper Mountain College

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S5E31: Desert Dispatch, Data Centers, and the People Pushing Back25 Sep 202600:42:47

Desert Dispatch Media is bringing together artists and communities to document how the AI buildout is affecting desert lands and the people who live there. Chris talks with organizer Melinda Matson Spina, filmmaker Jodi Darby, and musician Sage Bond about their planned community-led documentary, a short film for public assemblies, and the stories they hope to gather across the Southwest.

Sage describes composing with sounds and materials from the land, while Jodi explains how footage contributed by community members can shape the larger film. Chris also surveys actions communities and tribal governments are taking in response to proposed data centers.

Links and further reading

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S5E30: Why Deserts Need Defending17 Sep 202600:44:57

For our 150th episode, we return to a foundational question: why does the desert need people speaking up for it?

Chris offers four answers. Deserts are widely misunderstood as empty or expendable. They remain surprisingly understudied, even when familiar species such as Joshua trees are concerned. Desert protection cannot be separated from Indigenous sovereignty, migration, heat inequality, contaminated water, and the lives of working people. And beneath the science, policy, and activism lies a simpler reason: we love these places.

Listeners Kimberly, Nancy, and Diane share their own reasons for caring about deserts. Fred Bell supplies the nighttime voices of Woodhouse’s and Amargosa toads at Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge.

After the closing credits, Chris looks back at the geographical and topical reach of the podcast’s first 150 episodes—and identifies some of the places still missing from the archive.

In this episode:

  • Why calling deserts “empty” makes them easier to sacrifice
  • Creosote rings, desert fire and ecological time
  • How invasive grasses have transformed wildfire in the Mojave
  • Why conspicuous desert species can remain surprisingly understudied
  • Environmental justice, border communities and urban heat
  • What love contributes to conservation
  • Where 150 episodes have taken us—and where the podcast needs to go next

Resources and related listening:

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S5E29: Why Was the North Kaibab Trail Still Open?11 Sep 202600:34:08

Journalist Joe Dana of 12 News in Phoenix joins Chris Clarke to discuss questions raised by the August 29 flash flood in Grand Canyon National Park—and what happened inside the National Park Service before the disaster.

After the 2025 Dragon Bravo Fire, Grand Canyon Trails Supervisor Adam Gibson warned publicly that the upper North Kaibab Trail had become a substantially more hazardous environment. In a March appearance on The Grand Canyon Hiker Dude Show, Gibson described debris flows, hydrophobic soils and risks likely to persist for years.

Dana's reporting goes further. Sources told him that Gibson had recommended keeping the North Kaibab Trail closed for the 2026 season, and that park leadership initially appeared receptive to that recommendation before the entire trail reopened May 15. NPS had previously described its reopening strategy as adaptive, promising to “open what we can, where we can, when we can,” while balancing visitor safety, resource protection and operational readiness.

Chris and Joe talk about the pressures on park managers to restore public access, the risks faced by trail crews and visitors in a recently burned landscape, and the larger question built into National Park Service management: how do you provide public enjoyment of extraordinary places while ensuring that those places remain unimpaired for future generations? NPS policy says conservation ultimately takes precedence when those purposes genuinely conflict.

The August 29 flood killed two hikers, left a third missing, prompted roughly 80 rescues, and devastated infrastructure along Bright Angel Creek. As of September 8, the North Kaibab Trail, Phantom Ranch, Bright Angel Campground and several other inner-canyon areas remain closed, with no estimated reopening date.

Links and background

Joe Dana and 12 News

Grand Canyon Hiker Dude: Adam Gibson's March 4 interview

NPS: North Rim reopening announcement, March 25

NPS: Current North Rim and North Kaibab Trail status

National Park Service Management Policies: conservation and public enjoyment

Chris will also be taking 90 Miles from Needles to El Paso for the Fourth Chihuahuan Desert Conference, November 4–6, 2026, at the El Paso Zoo and Botanical Gardens.

Chihuahuan Desert Conference information

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S5E28: 4 Things You Need to Know about Desert Flooding04 Sep 202600:31:14

Episode thumbnail photo by Bo Insogna.

The deadly August 29 flood in Grand Canyon National Park received national attention, but it was not an isolated event. Flooding struck communities, parks and backcountry destinations across Utah, Arizona and New Mexico throughout the summer.

Chris Clarke presents four things we should understand about desert flash floods: they are regional rather than isolated disasters; they are fundamental forces that build desert landscapes; blaming victims can undermine safety; and better preparation, warnings, closures and land-use decisions can reduce the danger. The episode also explains why violent monsoon floods do little to relieve the Colorado River drought.

Key takeaways

  • The Grand Canyon flood was part of a much wider period of destructive Southwest monsoon flooding.
  • Flash floods are not aberrations in deserts. They carve canyons, move boulders, reroute washes and build alluvial fans.
  • Experience and preparation reduce risk, but they cannot eliminate it.
  • Blaming victims encourages people to treat safety warnings as advice intended for someone less competent.
  • Closures, permits, upstream monitoring, better flood maps and responsible land-use decisions can save lives.
  • Intense local flooding does not necessarily produce enough water to replenish major reservoirs or end a regional drought.

Notable quote
“The sustained river incision and the geological uplift are the canvas. The flash floods are the brushstrokes.”

  • Griffiths, Peter G., Robert H. Webb, and Theodore S. Melis. 2004. “Frequency and Initiation of Debris Flows in Grand Canyon, Arizona.” Journal of Geophysical Research: Earth Surface 109(F4).
    DOI: 10.1029/2003JF000077
  • Melis, Theodore S., Robert H. Webb, Peter G. Griffiths, and T.J. Wise. 1994. Magnitude and Frequency Data for Historic Debris Flows in Grand Canyon National Park and Vicinity, Arizona. USGS Water-Resources Investigations Report 94-4214.
    DOI: 10.3133/wri944214
  • Cannon, Susan H., et al. 2008. “Storm Rainfall Conditions for Floods and Debris Flows from Recently Burned Areas in Southwestern Colorado and Southern California.” Geomorphology 96(3–4): 250–269.
    DOI: 10.1016/j.geomorph.2007.03.019
  • Goodrich, David C., et al. 2018. “Southwestern Intermittent and Ephemeral Stream Connectivity.” Journal of the American Water Resources Association 54(2): 400–422.
    DOI: 10.1111/1752-1688.12636
  • Swain, Daniel L., et al. 2020. “Increased Flood Exposure Due to Climate Change and Population Growth in the United States.” Earth’s Future 8.
    DOI: 10.1029/2020EF001778

 

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S5E27: Sonoran Toads and the Dirty Business of Ego Death 28 Aug 202601:01:19

Journalist Kimon de Greef joins Chris Clarke to discuss his new book, The Ego Trip: Psychedelic Toads, a Trail of Deaths, and the Guru Who Peddled Transcendence.

The Sonoran Desert toad (Incilius alvarius) spends most of the year underground, emerging to breed during summer rainstorms. It is also the only animal known to produce 5-MeO-DMT, an extraordinarily powerful psychedelic compound, in its defensive secretions.

That biological curiosity has made the toad the center of a global psychedelic industry. 

Chris and Kimon discuss how Sonoran toad secretions changed from a little-known psychedelic tool into an international spiritual commodity; how outsiders profit from romanticized ideas about Indigenous tradition; and what the resulting trade means for the toads, the people hired to collect them, and communities living amid poverty and cartel violence.

They also examine parallels with the commercial appropriation and poaching of white sage, and consider an uncomfortable contradiction: people seeking healing, transcendence and communion with nature may be supporting a supply chain built on wildlife exploitation, misinformation and harm.

Content Note

This episode contains discussion of drug use, addiction, death, animal mistreatment and abusive psychedelic practices. It is not intended as medical advice or encouragement to use 5-MeO-DMT or any other controlled substance.

About Kimon de Greef

Kimon de Greef is a South African journalist whose work has appeared in The New Yorker, The New York Times, The Guardian, National Geographic, Guernica and other publications. He has a master’s degree in conservation biology from the University of Cape Town and a master’s degree in journalism from New York University. Much of his reporting concerns wildlife trafficking, illicit economies and the complicated relationships between human desire and the natural world.

In this episode

  • The remarkable monsoon-dependent life of the Sonoran Desert toad
  • What 5-MeO-DMT is, and why “toad licking” is both inaccurate and dangerous
  • How Octavio Rettig helped popularize toad-derived 5-MeO-DMT
  • Claims that toad smoking is an ancient Comcáac/Seri tradition
  • Psychedelic tourism, cultural appropriation and spiritual marketing
  • The economic realities behind supposedly “responsibly sourced” toad secretions
  • Toad collection, repeated “milking,” displacement and disease transmission
  • Why synthetic 5-MeO-DMT removes the need to exploit wild toads
  • Parallels between the toad trade and the international market for poached white sage
  • What scientists know and don't know about the toad’s population status
  • The difficulty of conducting conservation research in cartel-controlled areas
  • Why a potentially profound experience can still leave a trail of real-world harm

Selected timestamps

  • 00:02:07 — How Kimon found the story
  • 00:03:52 — Sonoran Desert toad natural history
  • 00:06:20 — 5-MeO-DMT and the toad’s defensive secretions
  • 00:08:47 — Octavio Rettig and the rise of “toad medicine”
  • 00:11:34 — The Comcáac community and claims of recovered tradition
  • 00:14:50 — Is there evidence of ancestral toad use?
  • 00:20:15 — Psychedelic tourism and its consequences
  • 00:22:30 — Seri ironwood carving and the creation of “tradition”
  • 00:30:10 — The parallel with white sage
  • 00:34:59 — Toad-derived versus synthetic 5-MeO-DMT
  • 00:38:44 — Inside the toad-secretion supply chain
  • 00:44:35 — What is happening to wild toad populations?
  • 00:50:27 — Psychedelic experience, reporting and ethical distance

Further reading and resources

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S5E26: Maps, Vanished Lakes, and Two Desert Squirrels14 Aug 202600:34:15

We think of range maps as static representations of where plants and animals belong. It doesn't often occur to us that maps are just snapshots of a constantly changing world. In the Mojave Desert, two sister species of desert ground squirrel coexist nearly side by side. A field guide's range maps will tell you where those species live right now. But those maps also convey hints out of Deep Time, and those hints can explain not only why the squirrels live where they do, but also how the two species evolved in their own directions.

Host Chris Clarke shares the story of those sister species: the Mohave and Round-tailed ground squirrels. One is doing well and is abundant. The other has been designated as a threatened species. Each of them is a library of history... if we know how to read them.

Chris also announces the launch of our Fellowship for Desert Reporting: prospective Fellows can start by filling out the application form at https://thedamn.org/fellowship-application.

Resources 

Mohave ground squirrels

  • California Department of Fish and Wildlife: Mohave Ground Squirrel
    Species overview, conservation status, recordings and access to the state conservation strategy.
    CDFW Mohave Ground Squirrel
  • Philip Leitner, “Current Status of the Mohave Ground Squirrel: An Update Covering the Period 2013–2020”
    Reviews the animal’s current distribution, apparent losses from portions of its historical range and continuing conservation concerns.
    Status update PDF
  • Mohave Ground Squirrel Technical Advisory Group
    CDFW’s archive of technical documents and meeting materials from researchers, agencies and other specialists.
    Technical Advisory Group
  • Mohave Ground Squirrel Conservation Council: Publications
    A bibliography covering the species’ taxonomy, ecology, genetics, distribution and conservation.
    Publications list

Separation, contact and hybridization

  • Kayce C. Bell and Marjorie D. Matocq, “Regional Genetic Subdivision in the Mohave Ground Squirrel: Evidence of Historic Isolation and Ongoing Connectivity in a Mojave Desert Endemic”
    Animal Conservation 14 (2011): 371–381. Examines genetic structure and historical isolation within Mohave ground squirrel populations.
    Article and abstract
  • Philip Leitner, Jennifer S. Rippert and Marjorie D. Matocq, “Genetic Structure Across a Contact Zone Between Xerospermophilus Ground Squirrels in Southern California”
    Western North American Naturalist 77 (2017): 152–161. Documents both species and genetically admixed animals near Hinkley. It also reports expansion across the former barrier of no more than approximately 30 kilometers—an average of no more than five meters per year.
    Full article
  • “Distribution and Genetic Status of Xerospermophilus Ground Squirrels in the Barstow Region”
    Includes useful maps of trapping records and genetically identified Mohave, round-tailed and hybrid or backcrossed animals around Barstow and Hinkley.
    CDFW-hosted report

Mojave River and vanished lakes

  • Marith C. Reheis et al., “Geomorphic History of Lake Manix, Mojave Desert, California: Evolution of a Complex Terminal Lake Basin”
    Geomorphology 392 (2021). A detailed modern synthesis of the lake basin’s development, changing river routes, tectonics and climate history.
    USGS publication page
  • USGS: Surficial Geology and Stratigraphy of Pleistocene Lake Manix
    Detailed geologic mapping of Lake Manix, its component basins and the deposits exposed by the Mojave River and Afton Canyon.
    USGS Lake Manix map and report
  • Marith Reheis and Joanna Redwine, “Lake Manix Shorelines and Afton Canyon Terraces: Implications for Incision of Afton Canyon”
    Discusses the overflow of Lake Manix and relatively rapid initial incision of Afton Canyon at approximately 25,000 calibrated years ago.
    USGS publication record
  • USGS: Mojave River and Associated Lakes
    An accessible introduction to the Mojave River, Lake Manix, Lake Mojave and the modern Soda and Silver Lake playas.
    Mojave River and Associated Lakes

Range maps and Joshua trees

  • USGS: High-resolution distribution maps for western and eastern Joshua trees
    Describes empirical and modeled range maps for Yucca brevifolia and Yucca jaegeriana across four states.
    USGS Joshua tree distribution study
  • Smith et al., “Genome-Scale Data Resolves the Timing of Divergence in Joshua Trees”
    American Journal of Botany 108 (2021). Estimates that the two Joshua tree species diverged approximately 100,000–200,000 years ago.
    Journal article

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S5E25: The Vaquita Can Still Recover07 Aug 202600:37:58

The vaquita is the world’s smallest and most endangered cetacean, but the handful still living in Mexico’s Upper Gulf of California may be more resilient than recent headlines suggest.

In 2025, researchers concluded that there was a 67 percent probability that seven to ten distinct vaquitas had been observed in the study area. That was a count of animals seen, not an estimate of the species’ total remaining population. Researchers also found evidence that vaquitas are continuing to reproduce.

Dr. Lorenzo Rojas-Bracho, one of the world’s leading vaquita experts and chair of the International Committee for the Recovery of the Vaquita, joins Chris Clarke to explain why the species is not necessarily doomed by its small population. Surviving vaquitas appear healthy, continue to produce calves, and retain the genetic capacity to recover—if people stop killing them in gillnets.

The vaquita is also a desert porpoise. Its only habitat lies in a marine ecosystem made exceptionally productive by its desert setting. Evaporation, concentrated saltwater, tides, wind, and upwelling continually move nutrients through the Upper Gulf. Although the loss of Colorado River flow has profoundly changed the delta and harmed some species, Rojas-Bracho says there is no evidence that food scarcity or habitat degradation is driving the vaquita’s decline.

The principal threat is bycatch in gillnets used for shrimp, fish, sharks, and especially totoaba. Totoaba swim bladders command extraordinary prices in an illegal international market, bringing organized crime into a conservation problem already complicated by government resistance and the legitimate needs of fishing communities.

Saving the vaquita requires eliminating gillnet deaths while developing fishing gear and markets that allow Upper Gulf communities to make a living without driving another species to extinction.

About the Guest

Dr. Lorenzo Rojas-Bracho has studied the vaquita for decades and helped establish the International Committee for the Recovery of the Vaquita, known as CIRVA, which he has chaired since its creation. His research has addressed vaquita abundance, bycatch, genetics, habitat, fisheries policy, and the species’ prospects for recovery. He is affiliated with the National Marine Mammal Foundation and has worked extensively with Mexican and international scientists, conservation organizations, fishing communities, and government agencies.

Quotable Moments

“Vaquitas are strong animals. If you stop killing them, they will recover. It’s amazing how resilient they are.”

“I would be satisfied if I see the population trend being positive, or at least not declining. I can die peacefully if I see that.”

“We cannot be stupidly optimistic, but we are optimistic because the data shows that we can be optimistic.”

“I don’t want Mexico to be the country that loses the vaquita.”

“Don’t give up. That’s the worst thing.”

In This Episode

  • Why seven to ten vaquitas observed does not mean only seven to ten exist
  • How the vaquita became adapted to natural rarity
  • Why genetic evidence shows that inbreeding does not necessarily doom the species
  • How a desert evaporation basin creates an exceptionally productive marine ecosystem
  • What ending Colorado River flow has—and has not—done to vaquita habitat
  • How fisheries authorities used habitat degradation to deflect attention from bycatch
  • Why totoaba gillnets are particularly deadly
  • How the illegal swim-bladder trade brought organized crime into the Upper Gulf
  • Why protecting vaquitas cannot mean abandoning fishing communities
  • The need for effective vaquita-safe fishing gear and better markets for safely caught seafood
  • What listeners can do to help

Resources

Take Action

Visit Viva Vaquita’s action page for sample letters to Mexican officials and other ways to help. Seafood buyers can also ask where shrimp and fish were caught and whether gillnets were used. Public attention matters: it gives officials who want to protect the vaquita political support to act and makes continued inaction harder to ignore.

The vaquita’s situation is desperate, but extinction is not yet inevitable. The animals are still feeding, reproducing, and surviving. The remaining question is whether people will give them the opportunity to recover.

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S5E24: Tree Sit at the Border01 Aug 202600:36:21

Border-wall contractors have destroyed three ancient Fremont cottonwoods in Lochiel, Arizona. Estimated to have been 200 to 250 years old, the trees stood in the path of two proposed 30-foot walls through the San Rafael Valley.

One landmark cottonwood remains. Activists have occupied it in what may be the first tree sit organized against border-wall construction.

Kate Scott joins Chris Clarke from the Casita de la Esperanza, the activists’ base at the former Lochiel port of entry. She describes the loss of the cottonwoods, the wildlife that depended upon them, and the apparent absence of meaningful environmental monitoring as the trees came down. She also explains why organizers are demanding protection for the surviving tree and an end to plans for a secondary wall through the community.

The fight is about more than one cottonwood. The tree represents the ecological richness, cultural history and cross-border relationships threatened by wall construction throughout the Arizona–Sonora borderlands.

Key Takeaways

  • Contractors destroyed three of Lochiel’s four landmark cottonwoods to make way for border-wall construction.
  • Activists are maintaining a tree sit in the remaining cottonwood and demanding that it be spared.
  • Organizers also want the proposed secondary wall through Lochiel abandoned.
  • The cottonwoods provided habitat for barn owls, flickers, kingbirds, insects and other wildlife. Scott also reports hearing a threatened yellow-billed cuckoo.
  • Scott says Customs and Border Protection had promised protections for active bird nests, but activists saw no meaningful environmental monitoring during the tree removal.
  • Organizers are combining direct action with art, music, ceremony and public gatherings.
  • Wall construction threatens wildlife movement, a historic border community, neighboring ranchland in Sonora and potentially significant archaeological resources.

Notable Quotes

“We do not want a double wall through this historic community.”

“Each one is unique—a universe in and of itself.”

“This is not a crossing point. This is a wildlife migratory corridor.”

“We’re not taking this anymore. We’re making our stand here.”

“Don’t obey in advance.”

About Kate Scott

Kate Scott is a southern Arizona organizer and a co-founder of the Madrean Archipelago Wildlife Center. Her work includes community organizing and direct action to protect the San Rafael Valley and the wildlife, cultural resources and cross-border relationships threatened by border-wall construction.

Resources

Episode image modified from a photograph by the Center for Biological Diversity.

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S5E23: Beyond Laws: Building a Movement to Save Our Deserts24 Jul 202600:30:05

Federal environmental laws matter. They have prevented destructive projects, protected wildlife and cultural sites, and given communities a way to challenge powerful interests. But laws are only as durable as the political support behind them.

As the Trump administration weakens environmental and cultural protections, Chris Clarke asks what happens when desert advocates rely too heavily on Washington. If federal law is the only defense a landscape has, one election or court decision can leave that landscape exposed.

The alternative is not abandoning federal protection. It is building additional layers beneath it: local ordinances, community relationships, persuasive stories, political constituencies and a shared understanding of what people stand to lose. Protecting the desert requires more than winning a legal argument. It requires enough organized public support to make destruction politically difficult.

Key Takeaways

  • Federal environmental laws remain essential, but laws alone cannot provide permanent protection.
  • Political administrations can weaken regulations, reduce enforcement and reinterpret longstanding statutes.
  • Environmental harm commonly produces concentrated private profits while distributing costs across the public.
  • Local ordinances and policies can add protection when federal safeguards fail.
  • Desert advocates need durable relationships with residents, workers, businesses, Tribal communities and local institutions.
  • Successful movements give people reasons to defend a place before a destructive proposal appears.
  • Building political power requires narratives rooted in community needs as well as ecological facts.

Notable Quotes

“The public loses more than money. We lose wildlife habitat, we lose groundwater, we lose archaeological and cultural sites, we lose wilderness.”

“Profits become concentrated by one party, and the costs are borne by the public.”

“Those of us who love a place shouldn’t just rely on Washington to defend it.”

“A president can weaken federal laws. And if federal laws are the only layer of protection that we have for places that we love, then we find ourselves in the position that we’re in right now.”

Join the Conversation

What has helped people protect a place in your community? Which local campaigns have built lasting support across political or cultural lines? Chris would especially like to hear about community and independent radio programs covering desert issues.

Email: chris@90milesfromneedles.com

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S5E22: Morgan Sjogren on the War on Utah's National Monuments17 Jul 202600:31:32

On July 13, 2026, President Trump announced new reductions of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monuments, removing protections from nearly three million acres. The action again places Tribal cultural landscapes, wildlife habitat, watersheds and public lands at risk from mining, drilling and other development.

Writer Morgan Sjogren joins Chris Clarke from southern Utah. Sjogren has traveled these landscapes extensively and written about Glen Canyon, uranium mining and the conflicting legacies carried by public lands. She describes the disorienting contrast between an enormous political assault and the apparent quiet of the country itself.

The conversation also considers what landscape-scale knowledge provides: an understanding that rivers, mesas, wildlife, plant communities, rural towns and Indigenous homelands cannot be separated by conveniently redrawn lines on a government map.

Key Takeaways

  • The July 2026 actions removed national-monument protections from most of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante.
  • Bears Ears is an Indigenous cultural landscape whose protection was developed through years of Tribal leadership and advocacy.
  • Reduced protections could expose lands to uranium and coal mining, drilling and other extractive uses.
  • National-monument protection also safeguards rivers, watersheds, wildlife habitat, archaeological sites and public access.
  • Sjogren argues that traveling through these places at landscape scale reveals connections that political boundaries conceal.
  • Supporting organizations based in and near the monuments remains an important way to respond.

Notable Quotes

“The air is filled with tension, and the noise is mostly online, but outside it’s eerily quiet.”

“Monuments are one of the most robust protections we have for rivers in this country.”

“I’ve been getting to know my riverside neighbors: both the human and more-than-human, plant communities, wildlife, Tribes, rural Americans, urbanites, farmers.”

“Vote like this landscape and our lives depend upon it.”

About Morgan Sjogren

Morgan Sjogren is a writer, adventurer and longtime traveler through the landscapes of the Colorado Plateau. Her books include Path of Light: A Walk Through Colliding Legacies of Glen Canyon, Outlandish: Fuel Your Epic, and The Best Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Hikes.

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S5E21: Don't Mine 29! Australian Company Threatens Joshua Tree10 Jul 202600:41:38
  • An Australian company has amassed mining claims across roughly 20,000 acres near Twentynine Palms and Joshua Tree National Park. Dateline Resources says its Music Valley project could produce heavy rare-earth elements. Residents and conservationists see the possibility of an enormous industrial operation beside homes, wilderness, desert tortoise habitat, and one of the country’s best-known national parks.

    Chance Wilcox of the National Parks Conservation Association joins Chris Clarke to explain what has been proposed, how the Mining Law of 1872 gives mining interests unusual power over public land, and why Music Valley threatens more than scenery. Dust, noise, water use, traffic, habitat loss and diminished views could affect the landscape as well as the tourism economy supporting Twentynine Palms and the surrounding Morongo Basin.

    The project has also prompted a growing local response. Residents, small-business owners and conservation groups are finding common ground in a simple message: Twentynine Palms is a national-park gateway community, not a mining district.

    Key Takeaways
    • Dateline Resources has acquired or staked claims across approximately 20,000 acres near Joshua Tree National Park and Twentynine Palms.
    • Mining claims are not the same as an approved mine, but they establish the company’s interest in developing the area.
    • Potential effects include habitat destruction, dust, noise, water demand, industrial traffic and damage to views from Joshua Tree National Park.
    • Threatened Mojave desert tortoises and other desert wildlife occur within the affected landscape.
    • The community’s tourism economy and residents’ quality of life are inseparable from the surrounding desert.
    • The Mining Law of 1872 continues to give mining companies extraordinary access to minerals beneath public land.
    Notable Quotes

    “This is going to be about 20,000 acres of strip mine next to residential neighborhoods and Twentynine Palms.”

    “People live here to really be part of this landscape. And people live here for a reason.”

    “Twentynine Palms is not a mining town. It’s a gateway community to Joshua Tree.”

    “There’s so much more at stake. It’s about the interconnection of all of that to every small business in Twentynine Palms.”

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S5E20: Our Love for Fireworks Could Harm the Desert03 Jul 202600:19:47

Fireworks are an American tradition—and a predictable source of wildland fires. Every year, July Fourth produces a sharp national increase in firework-related ignitions, with many occurring in the western United States.

In desert landscapes, the danger is growing. Invasive annual grasses now carry flames through habitats where large, frequent fires were once uncommon. A single ignition can kill slow-growing native plants, destroy wildlife habitat, and begin a cycle in which fire encourages still more invasive grass.

Chris Clarke examines the research on holiday fire ignitions, the fires that never become famous, and the growing strain on federal firefighting capacity. He also considers an obvious question: can we celebrate without setting the landscape on fire?

Key Takeaways

  • Fireworks cause a predictable surge in wildland-fire ignitions around July Fourth.
  • A 2023 study found that firework-related ignitions are concentrated in the West and north-central United States, with a particularly large share recorded on Tribal lands.
  • Invasive grasses have made many desert landscapes more vulnerable to fast-moving and repeated fires.
  • Small ignitions matter even when they do not become spectacular disasters.
  • Drone shows and other alternatives can provide communal celebration without the same fire risk.

Notable Quotes

“We remember the spectacular fires. We forget the thousands of ignitions that didn’t become disasters.”

“The desert has already given us an incredible fireworks show: thunderstorms over distant mountains, meteor showers, the Milky Way visible in the background of silhouetted Joshua trees.”

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S5E19: Greenlink West Carves a Costly Path Through Wild Nevada26 Jun 202600:39:56

We visit the Amargosa watershed to discuss Greenlink West, a transmission project now under construction that will ship energy from Vegas-area solar facilities to data centers near Reno. This project not only threatens to enable an explosion of data centers in Northern Nevada, but also incentivizes solar developers to concentrate development in largely untouched desert in the Mojave and Great Basin.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Greenlink West transmission line is purportedly for energy distribution but appears to primarily serve data centers.

  • NV Energy's developments misalign with publicized renewable energy goals, potentially increasing the burden on natural gas resources.

  • The substation built in the Amargosa Valley indicates the impending rise of massive solar projects, with minimal benefits to local communities.

  • Sallying efforts such as the strengthening of water rights control and military navigation illustrate the complex web of interests surrounding the project.

  • The discourse reflects on broader energy infrastructure expansions, potentially at the expense of Nevada's untouched desert landscape.

Notable Quotes:

  • "It used to be the Greenlink was to fight carbon emissions and climate change. But the goal has been becoming more obvious over the years that no, it's just for hyperscale data centers that are going to suck up all of our energy and water." - Laura Cunningham

  • "What if I told you, though, that there was a pretty good chance that data centers are going to seriously damage hundreds of square miles of the wild Mojave and Great Basin deserts in the state of Nevada?" - Chris Clarke

  • "This public land needs to be put to use and it's not for people." - Laura Cunningham

  • "The primary reason that so much solar was associated with Greenlink is because it was supposed to replace fossil fuel plants... they're gonna just go with the flow with whatever market is available." - Kevin Emmerich

  • "To me, this is such an interesting area because 30 air miles that way is Area 51." - Laura Cunningham

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S5E18: Desert Heat: Who Really Pays the Price?19 Jun 202600:36:06

In this timely episode, Chris discusses the best ways to avoid becoming a statistic while hiking during desert heat waves. He also points out that the vast majority of people suffering injury and death from extreme heat have little other choice. Migrants, the incarcerated, and outdoor labor all face serious threats from hot weather, with little recourse to protect themselves. That's why state and federal protections for workers and the incarcerated are so crucial.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Heat turns minor mistakes into fatal mistakes."

  • "Testosterone is not an electrolyte replacement."

  • Incarcerated people dying from heat injury is a frequent and growing problem that is not tracked in any methodical way."

  • "Hug your dogs."

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S5E17: The Desert Needs Our Voice and We Need Your Help12 Jun 202600:17:15

In the wake of a personal loss and a several-week hiatus, our host Chris wonders about the future of the podcast and whether it's doing what we need it to do to get to the people who need to hear it. Listeners are encouraged to take a few easy and free (or cheap) steps to help spread the word of 90 Miles from Needles, including posting reviews on Apple, Spotify, or our website; boosting us on social media, and so many other possible ways to help.

A full episode will come your way on 6/19!

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Short Update: Explaining Our Brief Hiatus27 May 202600:09:17

Content note: sadness.

Due to the death of a close family member, we will return on June 5. Listen if you want a few details. 

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S5E16: The Double Border Wall: A New Environmental Catastrophe15 May 202600:38:44

In this episode, Chris talks with longtime border environmental activist Russ McSpadden about the controversial plans to erect a second border wall on the U.S.-Mexico borde. From the devastating effects on the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge and Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument to the desecration of a sacred geoglyph, Russ details the harm this unnecessary project would cause. The discussion emphasizes the challenges posed by waived environmental and cultural protection laws.

Russ also speaks about new hope—the sighting of a jaguar in the Arizona skies offering a glimmer of resilience in the face of destruction. The episode also highlights his new poetry book "Borderlings," depicting life and conservation struggles along the border. Dive into this compelling dialogue for an in-depth understanding of desert conservation challenges and the ongoing fight to protect these precious landscapes from further harm.

Key Takeaways:

  • Ecological Impact of Border Wall: The construction of a second border wall poses critical challenges to biodiversity and destroys valuable habitats for numerous species, including the danger of groundwater depletion affecting Quitobaquito Springs.

  • Cultural Destruction Alert: The episode highlights the significant damage done to ancient geoglyphs and indigenous cultural sites, emphasizing the negligence in preserving sacred sites.

  • Legal Loopholes: The Real ID Act allows the waiver of significant environmental laws, facilitating unchecked progression of border wall construction, underscoring a critical need for legislative review.

  • Spotting Conservation Hope: The recent sighting of a new jaguar in Arizona demonstrates the continued, albeit precarious, presence of these majestic creatures in their historical habitats.

  • Personal Reflections in Poetry: Russ McSpadden's book "Borderlings" offers personal insight and reflections on the emotional and environmental turmoil of border regions, combining advocacy with creative expression.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "These contractors who can't be even trusted to protect cultural sites sitting on the surface can really not be trusted to protect our groundwater sources as well."

  2. "We can't sue under the Endangered Species act because the Endangered Species act has been waived."

  3. "This area represents this whole circuit of trade networks amongst various peoples... it was a place of exchange and movement and trade."

  4. "These are jaguars that are rewilding themselves across the southern border into incredible habitat in their traditional mountain ranges."

  5. "The federal government has declared it [the border] an invasion and a sort of a war."

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S5E15: When Commerce Meets Culture: Art Fairs in the Desert08 May 202600:44:00

Episode Summary:

In this episode, host Chris Clarke revisits the spirited discussion surrounding the High Desert Art Fair and its portrayal in media. Cindy Bernard and Bernard Leibov engage in a dialogue to address critiques and misconceptions, particularly related to an LA Times article that stirred emotions within the Morongo Basin. Their conversation navigates the crucial roles of artists in economic and cultural spheres while emphasizing the need for nuanced understanding among residents and media alike.

As the episode unfolds, Cindy and Bernard elaborate on key differences between various art events like the High Desert Art Fair and Desert X, underscoring their distinct roles in cultural development. They explore the often-contentious relationship between commerce and creativity. Their exchanges offer critical insight into the dynamics of art, community, and conservation in the desert landscapes.

Key Takeaways:

  • The High Desert Art Fair has been a growing initiative offering free and subsidized opportunities for local artists, contributing significantly to the community's cultural economy.
  • There is a clear distinction between art fairs, like the High Desert Art Fair, and international biennials, such as Desert X, each serving different purposes and audiences.
  • Addressing public misconceptions, the guests stress the importance of education and nuanced dialogue between new artistic movements and long-standing community members.
  • The podcast underscores the value of local movements toward smart cultural and economic integration, contributing to more balanced community development in desert regions.
  • Cindy Bernard and Bernard Leibov highlight the necessity for creative expression and economic sustainability to coexist in an evolving rural landscape.

Notable Quotes:

  • "The desert needs all sorts of people in order to be the economic place that it is. It's an environmental place, but it's also an economic place." — Cindy Bernard
  • "Let's allow people some grace… We're all trespassing in a sense." — Bernard Leibov
  • "Art and culture's existence in desert regions is crucial not only to expression but also to fostering economic opportunities." — Cindy Bernard
  • "We are all adapting and learning, and education about the land and community is crucial for any new player in the desert landscape." — Bernard Leibov

Resources:

  • Visit Desert Trumpet for local news coverage in the Morongo Basin.
  • Explore Boxo Projects to learn more about artists' residencies and programs in Joshua Tree.
  • Reference the guidelines for artists on land use developed by key organizations, including the Mojave Desert Land Trust.

This engaging dialogue brings to light the complex dynamics of the desert art scene and community interface, packed with insights on fostering sustainable cultural economics. Tune in to the full episode and continue joining us for more explorative discussions on art, culture, and conservation in "90 Miles from Needles."

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S5E14: River of Cheeseburgers: The Surprising Water Guzzlers of the West01 May 202600:30:28

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," Chris dives deep into the pressing issue of the Colorado River water crisis. As the lifeblood of many thriving cities and fertile fields in the southwestern United States, the Colorado River is now at the heart of a controversial and complex debate over water rights and sustainability in the face of an ongoing drought. But many participants in the debate overlook a surprising product created with the majority of the Colorado River's water.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Colorado River is a critical water source facing significant stress due to prolonged drought and historical policy misestimations.

  • Alfalfa and other cattle feed crops consume over 50% of the Colorado River’s water, with substantial portions exported overseas.

  • The 1922 Colorado River Compact's archaic provisions challenge present water rights negotiations, significantly impacting Indigenous and Mexican stakeholders.

  • Environmental change can be driven by altering consumer habits, reducing the demand for water-intensive agricultural products like beef.

  • Efforts are underway to conserve water within the river’s biggest irrigation districts, though solutions require collective policy and personal lifestyle adjustments.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "The Compact of 1922 vastly overestimated the amount of water that would be in the Colorado River in an average year."

  2. "55% of all the water used in the Colorado River Basin is used to irrigate cattle feed crops."

  3. "An acre foot of water makes 650 cheeseburgers."

Resources:

  • Lake Powell water level crisis sparks emergency response - Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/lake-powell-water-level-crisis-sparks-emergency-response-11849167
  • Water and Tribes https://www.waterandtribes.org/projects#dataltem-1111lvui
  • The 20 Farming Families Who Use More Water From the Colorado River Than Some Western States - ProPublica https://projects.propublica.org/california-farmers-colorado-river/
  • How a California Clean Energy Program Became a Boon for Big Dairies https://sentientmedia.org/california-clean-energy-program-boon-for-big-dairies/
  • California farms face pressure to boost efficiency as water supply declines | PBS News https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/california-farms-face-pressure-to-boost-efficiency-as-water-supply-declines
  • Eliminate the Imperial Irrigation District? - Legal Planet https://legal-planet.org/2025/12/19/eliminate-the-imperial-irrigation-district/
  • Provisional Upper Colorado River Basin Consumptive Uses and Losses Report: 2016-2020 https://www.usbr.gov/uc/DocLibrary/Reports/ConsumptiveUsesLosses/uc-ucrb-provisionalconsumptiveusesandlosses-2021-2025-508-20251200.pdf
  • Dairy's Large Water Footprint - FoodPrint https://foodprint.org/blog/dairy-water-footprint/
    Water scarcity and fish imperilment driven by beef production https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1064&context=wffdocs
  • The Colorado River's alfalfa problem - High Country News https://www.hcn.org/articles/landline-the-colorado-rivers-alfalfa-problem/
  • Western US states fail to agree on plan to manage Colorado River before federal deadline | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/12/colorado-river-agreement-state-negotiators
  • California, the biggest water user in the basin, pitches Colorado River framework • Nevada Current https://nevadacurrent.com/2025/12/17/california-the-biggest-water-user-in-the-basin-pitches-colorado-river-framework/
  • The Colorado River | Briefing | EESI https://www.eesi.org/briefings/view/021925rivers
    The Colorado River - Public Policy Institute of California https://www.ppic.org/publication/the-colorado-river/
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S5E13: A Partnership Torn Asunder24 Apr 202600:35:52

Episode Artwork by Carl Dennis Buell.

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke shares a poignant and introspective narrative about his early years in the Mojave Desert, weaving together personal reflections and environmental insights. Chris takes listeners on a journey back to 2008, reflecting on his time in the small town of Cima, California, and the unique experiences that have shaped his understanding of desert ecosystems and the vital partnerships within them.

Chris explores the intriguing history of the Joshua tree, its interaction with the extinct Shasta ground sloth, and the fascinating complexities of ecological relationships over time. With vivid storytelling, he describes the challenges faced by these iconic desert plants in the face of climate change, highlighting the interconnectedness of species and the profound impact of historical events on modern-day ecology.

Key Takeaways:

  • Chris Clarke draws a compelling parallel between his personal journey and the ecological history of the Mojave Desert, emphasizing the importance of storytelling in understanding environmental issues.
  • The episode highlights the critical role that extinct species, like the Shasta ground sloth, played in the dispersal of Joshua tree seeds, illustrating the interconnectedness of past and present ecosystems.
  • Through reflections on climate change, Chris underscores the urgent need for proactive conservation measures to safeguard desert landscapes and their unique biodiversity.
  • The story of Cima, California, serves as a microcosm of broader desert challenges, including invasive species and human impacts on fragile environments.
  • Personal anecdotes and historical insights combine to create an engaging and thought-provoking narrative, reinforcing the value of desert ecosystems and the need for their protection.

Notable Quotes:

  • "You know you're in a small town when your post office box number is lower than your age."
  • "Joshua trees are once again likely to die out in at least the southern parts of their range. But this time around, they have no sloths to carry their descendants northward."
  • "Live with someone long enough, and invariably, even after the relationship ends, an image of the other remains behind."
  • "The desert tree must now somehow manage on its own."
  • "This gentleman holds two mutually contradictory beliefs in his head, without noticing the incongruity."

Resources:

For those who cherish the intricate narratives of the desert and its enduring mysteries, this episode of "90 Miles from Needles" is a must-listen. Join Chris Clarke as he unravels the threads of time and ecology, offering insights that resonate with both the heart and mind. Stay tuned for more captivating stories and essential discussions on desert conservation in upcoming episodes.

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S5E12: Whose Desert Is It Anyway? Navigating Change in the Mojave17 Apr 202600:33:12

About the Guest(s):

Ruth Nolan: Ruth Nolan is a distinguished poet, educator, and an ardent desert advocate residing in the Joshua Tree area. With extensive experience living in Coachella Valley and the Mojave Desert, she has become a central figure in desert literature and education. Ruth serves as a Professor of English and Creative Writing at College of the Desert and was honored as the first Mojave Desert Literary Laureate in 2021. She is the editor of "No Place for a Puritan: The Literature of California's Deserts" and the author of "After the Dome Fire". Her work emphasizes the cultural and environmental significance of the desert.

Episode Summary:

In this compelling episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Ruth Nolan, examining the impacts of art festivals on the desert community, specifically focusing on the High Desert Art Fair near Joshua Tree. Clarke and Nolan critically analyze the language and intentions behind a recent LA Times article that portrayed Pioneertown's art fair as a cultural mecca, akin to the Hamptons or Marfa. This raised significant concerns among locals about the gentrification and ecological footprint on their cherished desert.

Through an insightful conversation, Nolan shares her discontent with the article's portrayal of the desert as an exploitable blank slate, intended as a playground for affluent city-dwellers. Nolan, rooted in a deep appreciation for the desert's unique charm, critiques the growing trend of large-scale cultural incursions that disregard the needs and voices of local residents. The episode further explores the concept of desert protection by urging new inhabitants and visitors to approach the desert with respect and stewardship rather than seeking to transform it into an urban extension.

Key Takeaways:

  • Gentrification Concerns: Ruth Nolan expresses concern over the influx of affluent outsiders transforming the Joshua Tree area, highlighting community displacement and environmental implications.
  • Media Influence: The interview critiques media portrayals which often serve as promotional content rather than objective journalism, significantly impacting local perceptions and realities.
  • Local Voices Matter: The need for community involvement and acknowledgment of local voices in discussions about development and conservation is emphasized.
  • Desert's Unique Identity: Nolan advocates for the protection and appreciation of the desert's intrinsic beauty and fragility, pushing back against external visions imposing changes.
  • Environmental and Social Stewardship: Encouraging newcomers to embrace sustainable practices and support local conservation efforts is vital for the desert's future.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Ask what you can do for the desert, not what the desert can do for you." – Ruth Nolan
  • "Are we not learning that there's nowhere else to go after this?" – Ruth Nolan
  • "The magic's already here. Just get out of your own head and go listen." – Ruth Nolan
  • "There's a difference between moving here and connecting and respecting, and importing yourself because you have a vision." – Ruth Nolan
  • "Eventually, what had looked like a monotonous expanse of boring, scraggly shrubs reveals itself as a magnificent expanse of boring, scraggly shrubs." — Chris Clarke

Resources:

This episode of "90 Miles from Needles" invites listeners to reconsider how art, development, and culture intersect with conservation in sensitive desert ecosystems. Tune in to the full episode for a deeper exploration into these pressing topics and subscribe for more insights on desert protection and community advocacy.

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S5E11: Help Us Preserve Deep Desert Reporting10 Apr 202600:18:28

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles,"  Chris describes how the rise of the internet and profit-driven media ownership have decimated local news outlets and journalists' jobs. Within this context, Chris introduces a new Fellowship for Desert Reporting, aiming to foster in-depth, contextual journalism that connects desert communities to important environmental narratives.

Chris Clarke recounts his experience in journalism, emphasizing the need for deep reporting that goes beyond superficial coverage of isolated events. He explains the fellowship's goals of nurturing new voices, providing aspiring journalists with the support and resources to develop expertise, and encouraging more comprehensive reporting on environmental and social issues affecting desert regions. The episode also touches on the dwindling support for local journalism and the potential transformative impact of community-driven media initiatives. As Chris notes, "You can't understand one project or one event without understanding the system it exists within," highlighting the necessity of systemic approaches to reporting on the desert's complex challenges.

Key Takeaways:

  • The substantial decline in traditional journalism has left many communities without comprehensive, contextual reporting.

  • The Fellowship for Desert Reporting aims to transform how desert stories are told, emphasizing long-term perspectives and deep, systemic analysis.

  • Chris Clarke explains that understanding environmental events requires a grasp of the systems and structures that underpin them.

  • The podcast seeks to diversify its reporting by bringing in new voices with local expertise in desert communities through the fellowship.

  • Listeners are encouraged to support this initiative, helping maintain diverse and impactful journalism in underrepresented areas.

Notable Quotes:

  • "The desert isn't a collection of isolated events. It's a system." - Chris Clarke

  • "Give journalists the time and space to develop expertise, to build institutional memory, to internalize context." - Chris Clarke

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S5E10: ¡No al muro! Big Bend Neighbors Fight Proposed Border Wall03 Apr 202600:34:49

In this episode, host Chris Clarke engages in an enlightening conversation with Laiken Jordahl from the Center for Biological Diversity. Focusing on the contentious issue of border wall construction, Jordahl sheds light on the potential threats posed by the Department of Homeland Security's proposed developments near Big Bend National Park in Texas. This discussion is not just a critique of environmental degradation but also highlights the unique coalition of local residents opposing these plans, emphasizing the union of diverse communities in protecting the Rio Grande's ecological integrity.

Jordahl articulates the environmental and social impact of the wall, touching on topics like endangered species, cultural connections, and community resilience. With references to biodiversity in the region, the conversation also delves into the critical role local communities play in safeguarding public lands. From agave blooms to wildlife threats and the interruption of the natural landscape, the dialogue underscores an urgent call to action. Through poignant anecdotes and insightful commentary, this episode captures the essence of grassroots activism and cross-border unity in the face of federal infrastructure challenges.

Note for AI skeptics: the episode artwork was created with Photoshop and a human brain.

Key Takeaways:

  • Local communities in Big Bend are uniting against proposed border wall construction, citing environmental, cultural, and economic concerns.
  • The coalition opposing the wall includes diverse stakeholders, from conservative ranchers to progressive environmentalists, all valuing the region's unique ecological and cultural landscape.
  • Proposed border wall construction risks significant ecological damage, including threats to endangered species and water access within the Rio Grande.
  • The episode explores the cross-border cultural and environmental exchanges that define the Big Bend region’s identity, threatened by potential development.
  • Activist efforts and community resilience offer a hopeful prospect for halting destructive infrastructure projects along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "They don't want to see their mountains dynamited and their native plants bulldozed and destroyed." - Laiken Jordahl
  2. "All of the local sheriffs, including a number of very conservative Republicans who run and campaign on border security issues, oppose this wall." - Laiken Jordahl
  3. "The Rio Grande, it's really a river in recovery. And we have an opportunity to restore this river and allow for the recovery of so many native species." - Laiken Jordahl
  4. "Once you see the grandeur, the remoteness, the rugged beauty of this region, there's no way you're not going to fight like hell to protect it." - Laiken Jordahl
  5. "These are not professional organizers. These are not paid NGO actors. These are people fighting for their livelihoods." - Laiken Jordahl

Resources:

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S5E9: Why Salt Lakes Matter More Than Ever27 Mar 202600:35:38

In this engaging episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke invites Caroline Tracey, author of "Salt Lakes: An Unnatural History," to discuss her newest work and its publication on March 17th. The conversation navigates from Caroline's initial inspiration at the Salton Sea in 2014 to the array of topics covered in her book, including the ecology of salt lakes, their historical significance, and the weaving in of queer theory as a lens for understanding these unique ecosystems.

The episode dives deep into Caroline's exploration of salt lakes around the world, illustrating unexpected commonalities in their ecological functions and human impacts. By employing queer theory, she highlights non-normative reproductive structures and challenges traditional perceptions of barren desert landscapes. Chris and Caroline further discuss the personal evolution that paralleled the book’s creation, providing listeners with an enriched understanding of the world’s salt lakes' environmental and cultural intricacies. This episode serves as a compelling invitation to rethink the narratives around desert ecosystems, encouraging proactive preservation through enriched storytelling.

Key Takeaways:

  • Caroline Tracey began her journey to writing "Salt Lakes: An Unnatural History" after visiting the Salton Sea in 2014, inspired by the interplay of natural history, policy, and personal narrative.

  • The book highlights the global patterns of ecological degradation in salt lakes due to factors like water diversion for agriculture, drawing parallels between lakes in North America, Central Asia, and Mexico.

  • Caroline incorporates queer theory to explore ecological dynamics, introducing a fresh perspective on the biodiversity and resilience of salt lakes.

  • Deserts and their salt lakes are misunderstood landscapes, often labeled as wastelands, yet they are biologically and culturally rich.

  • The interview sheds light on various ecosystems, advocating for conservation efforts by demonstrating how altered perceptions can foster environmental appreciation and advocacy.

Notable Quotes:

  • "I think for some people just the idea of what a salt lake is, it helps to ground them in terms of not just the utility but the beauty."

  • "Queer theory played a role in that because I really wanted to think about those conceptual issues of 'how do you feel at home in a place that's changing very fast?'"

  • "Salt lakes are...like a canary in a coal mine...because they are at the end of the water system."

  • "If I can convince other people that these landscapes are beautiful and fertile and worth protecting, that has a ripple effect upwards."

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S5E8: We Don't Need Heroes. We Need Activists. 20 Mar 202600:23:31

Episode Summary:

This episode tackles the troubling legacy of Cesar Chavez amidst recent allegations of sexual assault and misconduct, which have shaken the progressive and environmental spheres. Host Chris, who shares a personal history influenced by Chavez, critically examines these revelations, comparing past admiration with the need to hold figures accountable for their actions. The episode also navigates the broader implications on movements Chavez impacted, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging both the achievements and failings of public figures.

In a candid exploration, Chris discusses the complexities surrounding hero worship in social justice movements, particularly when such icons are involved in controversy. With references to other figures such as Ed Abbey and David Brower, the episode unravels the persistent issue of separating an individual's contributions from their personal failings. The episode spotlights how such revelations impact the perception of someone like Chavez, who played a significant role in farm labor rights but whose personal actions warrant serious condemnation. Chris concludes with a call for reflection on leadership dynamics within advocacy movements and how they must evolve to prevent future transgressions.

Key Takeaways:

  • The episode explores the lasting impact of recent allegations against Cesar Chavez, which profoundly affect his legacy within activist movements.
  • Chris discusses the challenges in separating Chavez's contributions to labor rights from his personal misconduct and abuse.
  • Examination of leadership within progressive movements highlights the dangers of a centralized cult of personality.
  • The discussion offers insights into how allegations of misconduct by leaders affect the morale and trajectory of advocacy efforts.
  • The host emphasizes the need for inclusive and responsible leadership that prioritizes the community's cause over individual recognition.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Heroes are really problematic. I keep learning this over and over again."
  • "The decline of the UFW is a testament to the failings of leadership that centered ego and image over collective goals."
  • "When leaders put their self-interests first, they sabotage the very movements they claim to champion."
  • "Ask yourself how much more good Chavez might have been responsible for if he had not been a rapist."

Resources:

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S5E7: The Battle for Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument06 Mar 202600:41:55

Urgent: Find your member of Congress and tell them to vote no on the Lee-Malloy resolution

Episode Summary:

In this timely and engaging episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, we look into the ongoing legislative challenges faced by Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument. In conversation with Dr. Jackie Grant, Executive Director of Grand Staircase Escalante Partners, the discussion unravels the intricacies of environmental policy, community engagement, and the unforeseen impacts of political maneuvers on public lands. This episode is a must-listen for those passionate about conservation and environmental justice.

The episode sheds light on the latest efforts by Utah politicians, including Senator Mike Lee, to overturn the monument's management plan using the Congressional Review Act. Dr. Grant elaborates on the implications of such actions, emphasizing how it could cause chaos across all public lands with management plans. The discussion also highlights the socioeconomic benefits derived from the monument's existence, opposing the idea that these lands are barren and underutilized. Through a meticulous examination of the issue, the conversation underscores the vital importance of community voices and scientific reasoning in land management decisions.

Key Takeaways:

  • Congressional Review Act Impact: The recent moves by Utah legislators pose a threat not only to Grand Staircase Escalante's management plan but also to the concept of public land management nationwide.
  • Diverse Stakeholder Engagement: The formation of the monument's current management plan involved extensive input from varied community representatives, highlighting the need for balanced perspectives in environmental policy.
  • Economic and Ecological Significance: The Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument supports local economies through tourism and recreation while preserving diverse ecosystems and night skies.
  • Urgency of Advocacy: Listeners are encouraged to speak out to their elected representatives to protect public land management plans from being undermined.
  • Wider Conservation Context: This episode contextualizes Grand Staircase Escalante as a crucial link in the larger preservation corridor stretching from Moab to Mojave.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "The Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument is almost 2 million acres in size… We don't really know how big a monument needs to be to protect 660 species of native bees." – Dr. Jackie Grant
  2. "If we err on the side of the bigger is more protective, then we know for sure we have protected those bees." – Dr. Jackie Grant
  3. "It seems unlikely, but in this administration, nothing's unlikely anymore." – Dr. Jackie Grant

Resources:

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S5E6: Ravens and Splitgrass: A Deep Dive into the Mojave's Ecological Challenges20 Feb 202600:57:33

This episode, we welcome back Tim Shields, a dedicated desert tortoise biologist whose half-century-long career has been devoted to unwavering efforts in conservation. As we explore abandoned terrains once frequented by old Hollywood, Tim shares his innovative methods combatting raven predation and invasive plant species threatening tortoise habitats.

In this captivating episode, Tim Shields explores how the invasive grass Schismus has transformed once vibrant, diverse desert landscapes into monotonous expanses, diminishing essential food sources and shelter for the desert tortoise. Chris and Tim engage in a panoramic conversation covering technological advances in ecosystem management, the ecological consequences of invasive species, and the ways technology can help mitigate human impact on wildlife. Through innovative tools and perseverance, Tim aims to hand over a toolkit to future generations for the restoration of these precious ecosystems.

Key Takeaways:

  • Raven Management: Tim has pioneered non-lethal methods to deter ravens, such as innovative lasers that make the birds uneasy without physical harm, significantly reducing raven presence in key habitats.
  • Invasive Species Impact: Schismus grass represents a major threat to desert ecosystems, highlighting the need for innovative solutions to restore native plant diversity.
  • Ecological Vibrancy: Creating a sound-based ecological index could help measure the health and diversity of the desert ecosystems, showing the vibrancy and biodiversity of an environment through acoustics.
  • Future of Conservation: Tim emphasizes the importance of preparing future generations with the tools and knowledge to continue ecological restoration and avoid repeating past mistakes.
  • Hope Through Innovation: Despite challenges, Tim remains optimistic about technologies and methods paving the way for ecological recovery in the desert.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Ravens are good students. We are talking to them in bird."
  • "If you have an environment that can support tortoises, it supports the whole crew."
  • "The Schismus remains invisible to most; they don't notice it, but we see the ecological damage."
  • "It’s about putting our hands on the ecological levers; otherwise, protected lands will become irrelevant."
  • "This is a beloved landscape, and it is in dire trouble."

Resources:

  • Tim Shields & Ornilogic: Discover more about Tim Shields' ongoing efforts and projects in desert conservation here.
  • Chris’ 2015 article on raven deterrence: read it at pbssocal.org
  • 90 Miles from Needles Podcast: For more information and additional episodes, visit our website.
  • Cornell Lab of Ornithology: Explore extensive bird call collections referenced by Tim in the episode here.

Join us in this insightful conversation to uncover how persistence and innovative thinking can foster change in conservation. Engage with how desert ecosystems can be protected and invite yourself to imagine sustainable futures for these wild terrains. Don’t miss tuning into the full episode for an enriching experience, and stay connected for more compelling discussions on the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast.

 

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S5E5: From Nuclear Waste to Restoring Glen Canyon13 Feb 202600:54:43

Episode Summary:

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke discusses the pressing environmental issues faced by the American Southwest with guest Zak Podmore. The discussion centers around the potential for San Juan County, Utah, to become a storage site for nuclear waste. The conversation explores the environmental and social justice implications of such initiatives, pointing out the burden placed on historically underserved communities that have already borne a disproportionate share of impacts from the nuclear industry.

The episode also explores the possibilities for the future of the Colorado River and the diminishing Lake Powell. Zak Podmore provides insights into what lower reservoir levels mean for the region's ecosystems and water management strategies. Encouraging discussions about restoring Glen Canyon and possibly decommissioning Glen Canyon Dam, the conversation transcends mere environmental discourse, hinting at a broader narrative of resilience and adaptation.

Key Takeaways:

  • Nuclear Waste Storage Concerns: The proposal to store nuclear waste in Southeast Utah raises significant environmental and social justice issues.
  • Glen Canyon Restoration: Lower water levels in Lake Powell reveal the adaptive potential of natural ecosystems, opening doors for restoration opportunities like decommissioning the Glen Canyon Dam.
  • Climate Change Impacts: The episode reflects the looming threat of climate change-induced drought in the Colorado River Basin and its implications for water management in the Southwest.
  • Community Resistance: Zak Podmore emphasizes the importance of community awareness and resistance against potentially harmful environmental policies.
  • Historic Environmental Advocacy: Insights into past environmental battles, including the roles of figures like David Brower, remind listeners of the enduring fight for ecological preservation.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "These meetings were held, the nonprofits involved said they were just listening sessions. They said, we're not trying to actually bring radioactive waste to your area. We're just here to listen and provide information." — Zak Podmore
  2. "I don't think that's a very valid argument. But even if you really believe that, they still leave out the impacts from all the rest of the nuclear fuel cycle." — Zak Podmore
  3. "The ecosystems are incredibly resilient and they're recovering faster than anyone expected." — Zak Podmore
  4. "It's a dire situation for 40 million people who get water from the Colorado River throughout the Southwest." — Zak Podmore
  5. "If you give Glen Canyon, this famous place that was lost to the Glen Canyon Dam in the 1960s, a chance to recover, it will come back." — Zak Podmore

Resources:

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S5E4: Celebrating 25 Years: The Timbisha Shoshone's Fight for Their Homeland06 Feb 202600:41:14

In this enlightening episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke takes listeners to the heart of the desert Southwest for a special commemoration of the 25th anniversary of the Timbisha Shoshone Homeland Act. The episode celebrates the journey of the Timbisha Shoshone Tribe in reclaiming their ancestral lands in Death Valley National Park. Tribe members, including Jimmy John Thompson, Mandy Campbell, and George Gholson share their stories and highlight ongoing collaborations with the National Park Service.

Rich in history and advocacy, this episode explores both the triumphs and challenges faced by the Timbisha Shoshone Tribe in the years since the landmark legislation was enacted. Jimmy John Thompson and Mandy Campbell express their frustrations over recent censorship concerning the tribe's narrative in the park's visitor center materials. The episode conveys the tribe's resilience and determination to protect and celebrate their culture while addressing contemporary environmental and social challenges. The discussion doesn't shy away from revealing the systemic issues still at play, urging listeners to reflect on the broader implications on cultural preservation and environmental justice.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Timbisha Shoshone Homeland Act was a significant event for the Tribe, granting them 7,800 acres of ancestral land within Death Valley National Park, a singular achievement for a Native American tribe.

  • The collaboration between the Timbisha Shoshone Tribe and the National Park Service highlights a critical step in building partnerships for the preservation and recognition of indigenous lands and culture.

  • Current tribal council members, including Jimmy John Thompson, stress the ongoing need to address issues like censorship and the importance of reflecting true tribal narratives in public spaces.

  • The Timbisha Shoshone people continue to fight for their rights and cultural survival, underscoring the importance of indigenous advocacy and environmental justice in modern society.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "I see partners, I see friends, I see family. These relationships would not work if we do not respect each other and trust each other." – Jimmy John Thompson

  2. "We're here to honor those that came before us who got this accomplished." – Jimmy John Thompson

  3. "We were pushed from land to land around here, from home to home. It kind of felt like when I figured it out, it felt like we were nobody then, but now we are somebody, and we are still here." – Mandy Campbell

  4. "Imagine for a second, if you did not know if your home was going to be there when you went home." – George Gholson

Resources:

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S5E3: How Honeybees Threaten The Desert's Native Pollinators23 Jan 202600:59:50

In this enlightening episode of 90 Miles from Needles, host Chris Clarke explores the intricate world of bees with Mary O' Brien from Project 1100. The conversation delves into the potentially deleterious effects of honeybee apiaries on public lands, a topic that's both counterintuitive and crucial for the public to understand. Honeybees, although often seen as critical to agriculture and ecosystems, can pose significant threats to native solitary bees that have co-evolved with local flowering plants.

Mary O' Brien sheds light on how these industrious honeybees outcompete their native cousins, impacting pollination dynamics that are vital for the desert's diverse flora. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the importance of preserving native bee species, the complexities of their ecological roles, and the nuanced implications of honeybee proliferation. O'Brien also shares practical strategies for those interested in conservation, emphasizing the importance of habitat protection and mindful consumerism when it comes to honey and pollinator support.

Key Takeaways:

  • Honeybees, although widely supported and utilized in agriculture, can have adverse effects on native bee populations, outcompeting them for resources and spreading diseases.

  • The high reproductive rate of honeybees poses a threat to native plants relying on solitary native bees for pollination, potentially destabilizing ecosystems.

  • Public lands serve as critical refuges for native bee species, which are often overlooked in conventional conservation discussions.

  • Consumers can contribute to bee conservation efforts by choosing their honey responsibly and fostering habitats for native pollinators.

  • Regulatory frameworks around public land usage play a significant role in the sustainability of native bee populations, calling for increased transparency and stakeholder engagement.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "Trying to save bees by saving the honeybee is like trying to save birds by saving the chicken."

  2. "Native bees evolved in tandem with flowers, and honeybees are not very good pollinators of many species of plants."

  3. "Once you know native solitary bees are in your world, you really can delight in seeing such diversity."

  4. "Public lands are the wildflower repositories for the Western U.S.; especially in the desert."

  5. "It's often quite attractive to think that you're buying wildflower honey; however, you're almost certainly buying honey that was produced on public land."

Resources:

Discover the intricate dynamics between honeybees and native pollinators and why preserving the biodiversity of our desert ecosystems is more crucial than ever. Listen to the full episode to deepen your understanding of this vital subject and stay tuned to 90 Miles from Needles for more insightful discussions on desert conservation.

 

Podcast episode artwork: Mojave poppy bee (Perdita meconis). Photo courtesy Zach Portman / University of Minnesota Department of Entomology via the Nevada Independent.

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S5E2: Cross-Border Conservation in the Big Bend Ecoregion16 Jan 202600:41:09

In this episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, host Chris Clarke engages in a thought-provoking discussion with guest Rick LoBello about ambitious conservation strategies along the U.S.-Mexico border. Rick shares insights into his life-long campaign to establish a transboundary protected area encompassing Big Bend National Park, Big Bend Ranch State Park, and several protected regions in Mexico. Despite the current political climate, Rick’s vision emphasizes the possibility of international cooperation in conservation efforts as a means to foster better cross-border relationships and protect vital ecosystems.

Throughout the episode, the conversation traverses a wide range of fascinating topics such as the historical context of the international park proposal and natural wonders of the Big Bend region. The dialogue also highlights the challenges and opportunities in bridging conservation efforts across borders, particularly considering the complex socio-political dynamics. Rick stresses the importance of collaborative frameworks, engaging with local communities, and leveraging relationships to advance conservation initiatives. He draws on past examples of successful cross-border collaborations and provides a roadmap for future actions.

Key Takeaways:

  • Transboundary Conservation Vision: Rick LoBello shares his initiative to promote a transboundary protected area involving U.S. and Mexican protected lands, aiming for improved environmental preservation and cultural cooperation.

  • The Role of Local Communities: Local Mexican communities like those in Boquillas del Carmen play a crucial role in conservation efforts, showcasing the importance of community engagement in international environmental initiatives.

  • Unique Biodiversity: The Big Bend region boasts a rich diversity of wildlife which includes black bears, desert bighorn sheep, and a wide range of plant life, underscoring its value as a conservation priority.

  • Successful Cross-Border Collaboration: Historical precedents suggest that meaningful, structured collaboration between countries can address mutual conservation challenges effectively, despite political headwinds.

  • Educational Outreach: Rick’s efforts to increase awareness of Chihuahuan Desert biodiversity through initiatives like the El Paso Wildlife Conservation Society and educational events highlight the critical need for public knowledge in conservation success.

Notable Quotes:

  • "I've made it a mission in my life to do all I can to help make [a transboundary protected area] a reality."

  • "People need to know each other and people need to trust each other if we're going to make progress."

  • "The black bear told us that the environment can heal, and there's hope for other species too."

  • "My main concern when it comes to development is that it be done in a way that's ecologically sensitive."

  • "If they know it and they love it, then they're going to want to protect it."

Resources:

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S5E1: Standing Up to Tech Giants: Desert Locals vs. California’s Largest Data Center09 Jan 202600:54:18

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke looks into the contentious topic of a proposed AI data center in Imperial County, California. As the largest project of its kind proposed in the state, local residents, led by community advocates like Gilberto Manzanarez of Valle Imperial Resiste, express concerns over the establishment's potential environmental and social impacts. The discussion emphasizes the community's grassroots efforts to halt the project through public awareness and strategic mobilization against a backdrop of economic challenges in one of California's most underrepresented regions.

The episode offers a first-hand account of the local opposition to the data center, with residents citing noise pollution, potential environmental degradation, and the betrayal of municipal promises regarding water and electricity resources. Gilberto Manzanarez shares insights on the movement he represents, explaining the importance of community-driven advocacy against powerful interests. The episode underscores ongoing battles for environmental justice and the struggle for local communities to safeguard their living conditions against speculative developments with uncertain long-term consequences.

Key Takeaways:

  • Gilberto Manzanarez and his organization, Valle Imperial Resiste, advocate for grassroots mobilization to oppose a proposed AI data center in Imperial County due to its potential negative impacts.

  • Residents voiced concerns about noise pollution, diminished property values, and uncertain environmental repercussions during a contentious Imperial County Planning Commission meeting.

  • The Planning Commission's decision to delay the project and set up workshops reflects local pushback and the effort to educate and engage the community more meaningfully in decision-making.

  • The episode highlights broader issues surrounding data centers, including the socio-environmental considerations lacking in many current developmental plans, as seen through examples from other U.S. cities.

  • A call for a moratorium on data center projects until comprehensive policies are in place signals a movement toward more cautious and community-focused development practices.

Notable Quotes:

  1. “This is no exception. The LLC that's trying to put the project here was only established one year ago. It's a playbook that's been played out in the entire country.”

  2. “One of the things that I noticed, was that there was a lack of information that these organizations gathered, but that information never really made it out to the people.”

  3. “I come from a town called Calexico, California... I'm not putting my entire faith in electeds right now.”

  4. “We want a comprehensive policy revolving around data centers around the Imperial County.”

Resources:

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S4E45: The Desertification Myth: Unpacking the Truth About Dry Lands20 Dec 202500:27:30

In this thought-provoking episode of "90 Miles from Needles, the Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke embarks on a journey to unpack the concept of desertification and its implications for environmental policy. Engaging listeners with tales of ecological history and colonial narratives, Chris explores the intersection of science, politics, and public perception in shaping how we view and treat deserts. Through an insightful discussion backed by the work of geographer Diana K. Davis, he urges a rethinking of what constitutes land degradation and calls for a more nuanced understanding that respects the intrinsic value of dry lands.

Chris challenges the prevailing notion that desertification equates to ecological failure and provides a critical examination of how historical and colonial assumptions have influenced modern conservation efforts. He highlights the importance of recognizing deserts as dynamic ecosystems shaped by natural processes and human impact. This episode is an eye-opener for those interested in land use policy, environmental advocacy, and the intricate relationship between culture and ecology.

Key Takeaways:

  • Desertification Misconceptions: Reframing desertification as land degradation challenges the stereotype of deserts as barren wastelands.

  • Historical Context: The colonial roots of desertification persist, influencing how we address ecological challenges today.

  • Policy Implications: Misnaming ecological processes can lead to ineffective conservation measures and exacerbate environmental issues.

  • Respect for Deserts: Deserts require a holistic approach that values their ecological role and indigenous knowledge.

  • Call to Action: June 17 could be a day to reimagine our relationship with deserts, focusing on protection rather than remediation.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Deserts aren't mistakes. They're not broken landscapes. They're ancient living systems shaped by scarcity and timing and restraint."

  • "When you misname the problem, you reach for the wrong tools. And sometimes... those tools make things worse."

  • "Deserts need us to listen to people who've lived with aridity for generations."

  • "The story matters because your choice of story determines the solutions that are available to you."

  • "Land can be damaged in dry places, but deserts themselves are not damage."

Resources:

 

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S4E44: Why the Desert's Sounds Matter More Than Ever12 Dec 202500:30:00

Episode Summary:

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke takes a moment to reflect on the challenges the desert has faced throughout the year. As 2026 looms with potential political upheavals, industrial intrusions, and environmental crises, he underscores the fragility and beauty of the North American deserts. Chris discusses the concept of desert quiet, a theme reflecting not only the absence of noise but the presence of life, and how human impact slowly erodes this natural soundscape.

The show examines the consequences of noise pollution, highlighting the invisible wounds inflicted on the desert soundscape by human activities. Chris emphasizes the critical importance of listening to and preserving the desert's unique quiet and sound ecology. He shines a light on efforts by various advocates to protect these ecosystems and urges for increased support for the podcast to continue this vital work. As external pressures mount, the episode appeals to listeners and potential donors to contribute to the ongoing fight to conserve the desert, focusing on actionable ways to make a difference.

Key Takeaways:

  • The desert's soundscape is threatened by human-induced noise pollution, which can drive wildlife away and disrupt ecosystems.
  • Observing and preserving the desert quiet is essential for maintaining the region's ecological health and vitality.
  • Increasing public awareness and support is needed to preserve the desert’s unique ecosystems and prevent corporate exploitation.
  • Contributions and engagement from listeners are crucial for continuing the podcast’s mission to protect the desert.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "The desert has always been quiet, but I've been hearing a different kind of quiet."
  2. "We're living in a desert that is depauperate of the creatures that formed it."
  3. "Noise is one of the least recognized forms of pollution we create, and we create a lot of it."
  4. "When I stand in the stillness now, I listen for ghosts. Echoes of wings, vanished choruses, voices the desert used to carry."
  5. "If we want to keep the ones that remain or restore the ones that we still can restore, the first thing we have to do is listen."

Resources:

Listeners are encouraged to dive into the full episode for an engaging discussion on the importance of preserving desert environments and how we can all contribute to their protection. Stay tuned for more insightful episodes as the Desert Advocate Media Network continues to explore and advocate for these vital landscapes.

 

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S4E43: Saving the Santa Rita Mountains from Destructive Copper Mining22 Nov 202500:57:01

In this episode of the 90 Miles from Needles podcast, host Chris Clarke embarks on a detailed discussion with John Dougherty, Executive Director of Save the Scenic Santa Ritas Association, about the invasive copper mining initiatives threatening Arizona's sacred lands. Set against the backdrop of legal and environmental challenges, the conversation highlights the destructive potential of projects like the Copper World mine. With vibrant descriptions of Arizona's natural beauty juxtaposed with the stark reality of its exploitation for minerals, this episode paints an urgent call to action.

Dougherty describes the controversial Copper World project, an expansion of the thwarted Rosemont Mine, spotlighting its predicted impact on local wildlife, sacred sites, and critical water resources. He explains the looming threats posed by massive open-pit mining and groundwater depletion. The discussion underscores the inadequacies and exploitation enabled by the General Mining Act of 1872, which allows mining companies to extract resources with minimal compensation to the public. Through strategic litigation efforts and community activism, Save the Scenic Santa Ritas aims to address and potentially halt these harmful mining activities.

Key Takeaways:

  • Save the Scenic Santa Ritas Association is actively opposing the Copper World mine to prevent environmental and cultural devastation in the Santa Rita Mountains.

  • The Copper World project threatens sacred indigenous lands and critical water resources in Arizona, fostering ecological and community concerns.

  • Arizona's legal framework, based on the General Mining Act of 1872, is scrutinized for its outdated policies favoring mining corporations without adequate environmental oversight or economic benefit to the community.

  • The podcast underscores the importance of local and political action to combat environmental degradation and protect public lands from corporate exploitation.

  • Dougherty advocates for grassroots support and encourages listeners to engage with local governance to enact restrictive policies on destructive mining activities.

Notable Quotes:

  • "If space aliens arrived with an orbital death ray and erased a valley in just this fashion, the nations of the world would go to war."

  • "The damage doesn't just stop when the mining stops, the damage continues on forever."

  • "The Ray Mine isn't the largest open pit copper mine in the state, but...it was about as stark and unexpected as I had ever seen."

  • "This copper is going overseas...the company admits in its financial filings that the first four or five years will all be exported."

Resources:

  • Save the Scenic Santa Ritas Association: Website

  • Contact Information for Arizona Government Officials: Reach out to Arizona's Governor Katie Hobbs at engage@az.gov  and State Attorney General Kris Mays (https://www.azag.gov/to advocate for changes in mining regulation policies to protect Arizona's lands.

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S4E42: Defending the Desert in a World of Lies15 Nov 202500:26:43

In this compelling episode of 90 Miles from Needles, host Chris Clarke explores the delicate balance of truth in natural environments and everyday life. With a focus on the impact of modern technology, Chris explores how misinformation, notably from AI-generated content, can distort our understanding of the natural world. He raises vital questions about the integrity of information and prompts listeners to reconsider how we consume media.

This discussion extends to an examination of the timeless truths found within desert ecosystems, where reality remains unobscured by human interference. Chris eloquently contrasts the external world filled with "little lies" and the undeniable truths present in the desert's harsh yet honest environment. This episode emphasizes the importance of discernment in the digital age, encouraging listeners to seek authenticity and treasure the unembellished truth of natural landscapes.

Key Takeaways:

  • AI-generated content is increasingly sophisticated, making it challenging to distinguish between reality and fiction.

  • Deserts serve as natural educators, offering unbiased truths and teaching resilience, adaptation, and harmony.

  • Misinformation isn't limited to one side of the political spectrum; all individuals must critically assess their beliefs.

  • The desert's inherent truthfulness contrasts with the often manipulated realities we encounter through media and politics.

  • Understanding natural environments, like deserts, requires slowing down and embracing complexity without preconceptions.

Notable Quotes:

  • "The desert is pretty honest about limits."

  • "When does an untruth become a lie? A lie requires intent."

  • "The desert is pretty firm in its stance that reality is not optional."

  • "Truth in the desert is slow, and if you want to catch it, you slow down, too."

  • "The desert never asks us to pick one story or the other. It just presents the facts in all their complexity."

Resources:

  • Coyote and Badger video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bICTWNRrGE

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S4E41: How Fire, Furloughs, and Federal Cuts Threaten Our Deserts07 Nov 202500:59:36

In this compelling episode of 90 Miles from Needles, host Chris Clarke engages in a deep conversation with Nick Graver as they explore the pressing challenges facing Joshua Trees and desert conservation efforts amid climate change and governmental policy swings. Recorded during the longest federal government shutdown in U.S. history, this episode highlights the hurdles that scientists and conservationists face in protecting vulnerable species against the backdrop of political instability.

The discussion spotlights key topics such as the impact of invasive species on desert ecosystems, the critical role of the Joshua Tree as a keystone species, and how recent wildfire patterns threaten these iconic symbols of the desert. Graver elaborates on the intricate science behind population modeling and stresses the urgency of coordinated governmental and scientific efforts to preserve these fragile landscapes. As federal support becomes erratic, this episode captures the essence of modern environmental advocacy and the relentless pursuit of conservation in uncertain times.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Joshua Tree faces significant threats from climate change, especially due to invasive grasses and increased occurrences of human-caused wildfires.

  • There is a pressing need for diverse partnerships between governmental bodies, researchers, and indigenous communities to develop effective conservation strategies.

  • Federal and state policy dynamics, including the effects of government shutdowns, severely impact the implementation of conservation efforts.

  • Understanding the life history and reproductive patterns of Joshua Trees provides crucial insights for developing long-term conservation measures.

  • Despite political barriers, continuous advocacy and research are critical to ensuring the survival of Joshua Trees and the broader desert ecosystem.

Notable Quotes:

  • "We've known for 15 or 20 years now that Joshua Trees in particular were threatened by climate change."

  • "If there's nobody there to hear those ideas and implement those changes, then it's all pointless."

  • "Joshua Trees occupy a substantial area in four U.S. states... and is a critically important species."

  • "The trees that we plant in 2025... by the time that those trees grow to adulthood, it will already be 2070."

Resources:

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S4E40: The Battle for the San Rafael Valley31 Oct 202500:30:36

About the Guest:

Andrea Hoerr is a committed environmental advocate working with Save the Scenic Santa Ritas and Great Old Broads for Wilderness in Tucson, Arizona. Her work involves fighting against environmentally detrimental projects, such as huge mining operations and the development of border walls in biodiverse regions. Andrea, also known as Dre, uses her expertise as an Arizona Master Naturalist to engage in preserving wilderness areas and fostering grassroots efforts for environmental conservation.

Episode Summary:

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke engages with Andrea Hoerr, a fervent activist for desert conservation and biodiversity protection. Hoerr highlights the ecological threats posed by the potential construction of a 27-mile border wall through the San Rafael Valley in Southern Arizona. The episode covers the rich biodiversity of the region, including its status as a biodiversity hotspot and migration corridor for a variety of species.

The conversation dives deep into the importance of the San Rafael Valley's grasslands, shedding light on the impending consequences of border wall construction, such as disrupted animal migration, waterway destruction, and habitat fragmentation. Hoerr underscores the collective resistance against these developments and invites listeners to a peaceful rally on November 15 aimed at raising awareness and protecting the valley. By presenting comprehensive anecdotes and first-hand experiences, this episode serves as a powerful call to action for greater environmental advocacy.

Key Takeaways:

  • The San Rafael Valley in Southern Arizona is a critical biodiversity hotspot, threatened by a proposed 27-mile border wall.
  • Andrea Hoerr and her fellow activists are organizing a rally on November 15th to raise awareness about the ecological impacts of the border wall.
  • The proposed wall will disrupt animal migration corridors, hamper natural waterways, and result in habitat fragmentation.
  • Biodiversity is vital not only to the environment but also to national security, as recognized by various institutions, including the military.
  • Engaging with and bearing witness to the land helps solidify community commitment to environmental conservation efforts.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Biodiversity is important to the health and well-being of not only humans, but all the 10 million species that are interconnected."
  • "We acted as if we can do whatever we want without any concern for the repercussions."
  • "You cannot really grasp the magnitude of what's happening here until you get there, until you bear witness for yourself."
  • "Art, as you know, is such an important way to reach people."
  • "We choose to try not to paint everyone with a broad brush. There’s a lot more hearts and minds that can be won over."

Resources:

Tune in to the full episode for an inspiring and detailed exploration of the San Rafael Valley, its invaluable ecology, and the community efforts to protect it. Stay connected for more stories and insights from "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast."

Podcast episode artwork courtesy Sky Island Alliance.

 

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S4E39: Ideology vs. Wildlife Science: A Conversation with Mandy Culbertson17 Oct 202500:47:54

Episode Summary:

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke takes listeners into the complex worlds of wildlife policy and desert preservation.

The episode features Mandy Culbertson, Communications Director at Wildlife for All, discussing the implications of state and federal-level wildlife governance on biodiversity and the environment, particularly within the Southwest's desert landscapes. She explains how Wildlife for All is working to reform state wildlife governance by including more democratic processes and scientific approaches to benefit ecosystems and wildlife populations. Mandy provides an insightful analysis of the current state of wildlife management in the Southwest and beyond, highlighting the disparity in effectiveness among different states.

With a critical eye on states like Arizona and Montana, Chris and Mandy discuss pressing issues such as the militarization of the US-Mexico border and its detrimental effects on wildlife. Mandy elaborates on how public pressure can influence policy decisions, citing recent victories and ongoing struggles in wildlife advocacy.

The conversation also highlights the crippling impact of the recent federal government shutdown on wildlife protection efforts, especially for endangered species like the Mexican gray wolf. 

Key Takeaways:

Wildlife for All's Mission: The organization focuses on transforming state wildlife governance to protect biodiversity and strengthen ecosystems with an ethical and democratic approach.

Southwestern Biodiversity: The American Southwest is a biodiversity hotspot facing unique challenges such as habitat fragmentation, climate change, and urban development pressures.

State Wildlife Management: States like Arizona exhibit problematic wildlife management practices, often putting political ideology and special interests over scientific and ethical considerations.

Impact of Border Militarization: Increased infrastructure and enforcement along the US-Mexico border significantly disrupt wildlife corridors, affecting numerous species.

Federal and State Dynamics: The federal government shutdown exacerbates challenges in managing and protecting wildlife.

Notable Quotes:

"Most folks don't realize that state agencies, state wildlife agencies, are responsible for the vast majority of wildlife management in this country." — Mandy Culbertson

"Protecting biodiversity and restoring healthy ecosystems requires a more ethical and democratic and just approach to wildlife policy." — Mandy Culbertson

 "The war on wildlife isn't separate from the crisis of democracy that we're seeing right now. It's a symptom of the same disease." — Mandy Culbertson

"Public pressure matters. These state wildlife commission meetings are a great place to get involved." — Mandy Culbertson

Resources:

Wildlife for All Website: https://wildlifeforall.us

Wildlife For All's Wildlife Advocacy Toolkit: https://wildlifeforall.us/take-action/advocacy-toolkit/

Wildlife For All also compiles a regular list of state wildlife commission meetings: https://wildlifeforall.us/october-wildlife-commission-meetings/

No Kings Movement: https://nokings.org

Permission to Pollute Act (bill text): https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3898/text

Public Lands Rule Public Comment (ends November 10): Engage in the ongoing public comment to help keep non-consumptive use of public lands (like hiking, camping, wildlife watching) on an equal policy footing with mining and logging. For more info: https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/interior-proposes-rescind-public-lands-rule-restoring-balanced-multiple-use

 

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S4E38: 2 Big Reasons to Avoid National Parks During the Shutdown10 Oct 202500:16:33

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke provides valuable insights into the impact of government shutdowns on national parks, especially those within desert regions. The episode opens with a beautiful recording of a hermit thrush by nature sound artist Fred Bell, setting a serene and reflective tone for discussing the challenges facing these national treasures during shutdowns. Clarke advises listeners to reconsider visiting national parks until they are fully operational again due to the strain on park staff and resources, leading to potential environmental degradation and safety risks.

Chris shares insights from retired park rangers and discusses the alarming consequences of a strained park system, such as vandalism, inadequate maintenance of amenities, and risks posed by decreased ranger presence. Clarke also emphasizes the economic implications for local communities reliant on park tourism, highlighting examples of local businesses adapting by offering alternative tours outside national parks. Additionally, he encourages listeners to explore other natural and historical sites managed by different entities, thus somewhat preserving the economic stability of local regions while respecting and protecting national parks during these challenging times.

Key Takeaways:

  • National parks face significant challenges during government shutdowns, leading to environmental and safety risks.
  • Vandalism, lack of maintenance, and potential visitor accidents are heightened without adequate park staffing.
  • Retired park rangers advocate for closing parks entirely during shutdowns to protect resources.
  • Local businesses and tour operators offer alternative experiences outside national parks to mitigate economic impacts.
  • Visitors can explore nearby state parks, county parks, and BLM lands as responsible alternatives.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "As someone who lives a five minute drive from an extremely popular national park, it's disturbing to me that the Secretary of the Interior has basically ordered parks to stay as open as possible during the shutdown." - Chris Clarke
  2. "These landscapes, these cultural resources, these historical resources are all vulnerable. And right now they don't have enough guardians watching over them." - Chris Clarke
  3. "During the last long shutdown, there was vandalism in Joshua Tree. There's spray painting on rocks, damage and theft of artifacts and cultural items." - Chris Clarke
  4. "We can use it as an excuse to give those animals another break. It's been five years since they had one. Maybe we think about this as a good moment to give the land and the beings that live there another chance to breathe." - Chris Clarke
  5. "The landscapes around the parks are amazing in their own right, and your spending there will still support the local economy without adding pressure to the national parks." - Chris Clarke

Resources:

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S4E37: Desert Communities and United Fronts: Building a Cross-Desert Protection Movement03 Oct 202500:20:44

Host Chris Clarke takes listeners along on a recent journey to El Paso for the Chihuahuan Desert Fiesta. The trip was made possible by supporters who contributed to the Chihuahuan Desert Travel Fund. Clarke shares insights and experiences from traveling over 1600 miles across the deserts of the Southwest. This episode provides a heartfelt thank you to supporters and explores the challenges facing desert conservation. As Clarke reflects on the journey, he explores common ecological threats facing desert regions, ranging from industrial development to climate change and invasive species. The episode features stories and experiences gathered from Tucson to El Paso, highlighting the bond people form with these arid landscapes and the innovative ways communities are working to protect them. Clarke concludes by discussing the potential for a cross-desert conservation movement, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and communication.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Chihuahuan Desert Fiesta provided a platform for connecting with desert conservationists and highlighted the biodiversity and challenges unique to desert ecosystems.
  • The trip was a success thanks to generous donations, enabling Clarke to engage with local communities and build relationships that transcend geographic boundaries.
  • Ecological threats, such as invasive species and climate change, affect all desert regions, necessitating collaborative conservation efforts.
  • Personal connections and face-to-face interactions can be pivotal in galvanizing support and fostering shared passion for desert protection.
  • The idea of a continent-wide desert conservation movement underscores the need for innovative communication channels between diverse communities.

Notable Quotes:

  1. "The ecosystems are fragile in the sense that they are slow to heal from disturbance. They can take centuries to recover."
  2. "There is a diverse group of people working on protecting the deserts... that care about the desert and want to protect it."
  3. "I think the thing that I was most impressed by from mile one of this trip is the degree of passion that these places raise in their defenders."
  4. "It would be great for people in Las Vegas to be familiar with what people in El Paso are facing and vice versa." 

Resources:

90 Miles from Needles https://90milesfromneedles.com

The Mojave Project: https://mojaveproject.org/

Adriana Bachmann - https://www.instagram.com/myclimateclarity

 Eli Heller - https://www.instagram.com/desertnaturalist

 Henry Brean at AZ Daily Star: https://tucson.com/users/profile/henry%20brean/

 

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S4E36: The Fallout You Never Knew About: California's Hidden Nuclear Legacy26 Sep 202500:45:13

Episode Summary

In this eye-opening episode of *90 Miles from Needles*, host Chris Clarke welcomes back Dr. Michael E. Ketterer to explore the unsettling connections between historical nuclear testing in the Nevada Test Site and fallout in unexpected areas like eastern California. With cutting-edge mass spectrometry, Dr. Ketterer reveals how nuclear tests conducted decades ago may have risked public health in unexpected places such as eastern California. The episode not only dives deep into the legacy of nuclear testing but also highlights the need for further investigation into its repercussions, particularly in underrepresented areas impacted by radioactive exposure. During the conversation, Dr. Ketterer shares his findings on how eastern California, particularly the regions around Mount Whitney, has been affected by nuclear fallout in levels comparable to notorious downwind zones like St. George, Utah. He asserts that existing compensation programs, like the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act (RICA), should be expanded to include these overlooked areas. Dr. Ketterer also discusses his involvement in a mobile lab initiative that aims to map fallout across New Mexico—providing crucial data to better understand past exposures and advocate for affected communities.

Key Takeaways

  • Dr. Ketterer exhibits compelling evidence that nuclear fallout from Nevada test sites reached eastern California in significant amounts, equivalent to recognized downwind fallout areas.
  • The episode challenges preconceived notions about nuclear test fallout only affecting designated downwind areas and calls for policy expansion to acknowledge overlooked regions.
  • The pursuit of truth in fallout mapping is driven by sophisticated isotopic testing, identifying residual contamination in soil samples and informing future legislative action.
  • Dr. Ketterer's work shines a light on neglected communities, emphasizing the importance of validating historical data for revising compensation and care strategies under RECA.
  • A new mobile lab initiative, designed to bring testing capabilities directly to communities, is part of Dr. Ketterer’s latest efforts to empower citizens with real-time data and insights into their environmental health.

Resources

Veterans for Peace https://www.veteransforpeace.org/

Learn about plutonium isotopic fingerprinting techniques: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopic_signature 

Research articles and public work by Dr. Michael Ketterer can be found through Google Scholar.

Listen to the full episode for an in-depth understanding of how fallout from historical nuclear testing impacts communities today and gain insights into the ongoing efforts to map and mitigate these effects. Don't miss upcoming episodes for more on desert protection and advocacy initiatives!

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S4E35: Silencing the Left: The Fight for Truth and Justice in Uncertain Times20 Sep 202500:20:36

Chris Clarke discusses the political tensions boiling over in the U.S., particularly surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Clarke offers a profound exploration into the implications of this event on the left-wing movement while criticizing the portrayal of the desert, advocating for the urgent need to protect these delicate ecosystems. As a long-time activist, Chris emphasizes the significance of non-violence in political change and the dangers of one-sided media narratives. Throughout the episode, Chris Clarke adeptly interweaves his rich history of activism with an analysis of current political events, spotlighting the Desert Advocacy Media Network's role in environmental advocacy. He engages listeners by addressing the resurgence of political urgency reminiscent of past decades while accentuating the necessity to expand the podcast's reach for greater impact. Resources and alternatives are suggested for diversifying how audience members can contribute, whether financially or through spreading awareness.

Key Takeaways:

  • Host Chris Clarke provides an insightful commentary on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, highlighting the misguidedness of political violence as a means of change.
  • Chris invites listeners to support the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, stressing the value of community-driven initiatives over corporate media.
  • Listeners are encouraged to engage with small media projects as paramount sources for truthful reporting in light of biased mainstream narratives.
  • Clarke calls for solidarity among desert inhabitants of all backgrounds, urging collaboration to safeguard their way of life. 

Notable Quotes:

  1.  "I was involved in sitting in administration buildings in protest... It was all very new and exciting, and I had no perspective back then."
  2. "There are probably circumstances in which I would decide people are justified in using some violence to defend themselves... But we are not there in a mass political sense in the US."
  3. "It's people on the right that need to start professing their opposition to political violence. Because on the left, our record is pretty clear." 
  4.  "The task of revealing what's going on in this country is necessarily falling to us because Paramount and Comcast and Disney and Apple and Netflix and Google and Meta don't have the slightest interest in informing us at this point."
  5. "We are all desert people, and we need to stand up for each other."

Resources:

90 Miles from Needles website: https://90milesfromneedles.com

Contact for donations: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate 

Department of Justice report on domestic extremism: Available at https://90milesfromneedles.com/extremism

Listeners are encouraged to tune into this episode for an in-depth understanding of current political dynamics and to support the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast for continued advocacy towards desert protection and truthful reporting. Stay engaged for more enlightening and thought-provoking content from Chris Clarke and his guests.

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S4E34: Joshua Trees and Family Trees12 Sep 202500:29:06

Chris Clarke, the host of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast" is a seasoned storyteller, passionate environmentalist, and a desert aficionado. Throughout his career, he has dedicated himself to the protection of desert ecosystems through his writings, activism, and this podcast.

Chris's work often intersects with emotional narratives tied to family, nature, and the unique beauty of desert landscapes.

Episode Summary:

In this heartwarming episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke relates poignant memories of his first encounter with the North American deserts alongside his father, James Clarke, who recently turned 91. The podcast blends reflections on family ties with the enchanting life cycles of the desert's flora and fauna, particularly focusing on the coastal dynamics of Joshua trees and their pollinators, the Joshua tree moths. 

Chris's narrative paints a vivid picture of his desert journeys, interwoven with the deeply personal legacy imparted by his father. Listeners are treated to rich, descriptive storytelling about the Mojave Desert's changing landscape due to 2005's unprecedented rain, revealing a lush tapestry of growth and bloom.

Throughout the episode, Chris explores the intricate dance of mutual dependence between Joshua trees and moths, using this symbiosis as a metaphor for family relations. His reflections span generations, touching on areas like evolution, kinship, and the broader cycles of nature.

The episode closes with details about upcoming events and heartfelt gratitude to contributors who support Chris’s mission of desert conservation. 

Key Takeaways:

  • Chris recollects his initial desert experience from 60 years ago, imparting a deep-seated love for this landscape gifted by his father.
  • The episode highlights the symbiotic relationship between Joshua trees and their exclusive pollinators, the Joshua tree moths.
  • Personal narratives are woven with scientific insights into desert ecosystems, emphasizing the interconnectedness of all life forms.
  • Chris shares details of the Chihuahuan Desert travel plans for community engagement and draws attention to ongoing activism for desert protection.
  • A touching celebration of familial bonds is tied to the broader theme of inheritance and nature's ongoing legacy. 

Notable Quotes:

  • "It shaped my life. And the guy that was behind the wheel driving me and some others around in the desert that month in 1966…"
  • "Building a good fire is a matter of balance… and I think about my father."
  • "It's the family I've always longed for, and I cherish my place in it."
  • "We are related. We are kin." 

Resources:

Visit 90milesfromneedles.com for more details about upcoming events. For contributions to the Chihuahuan Desert Travel Fund, go to 90milesfromneedles.com/elpaso.

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S4E33: Monsoon Madness: When the Desert Comes Alive05 Sep 202500:27:49

Episode Summary

This episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast does a racing dive into the fascinating topic of monsoonal rainstorms in the desert, focusing on their effects and significance.

With detailed insights into recent rain events in Twentynine Palms, California, Chris shares the challenges and celebrations that accompany these powerful meteorological phenomena. Amid the backdrop of a biome shaped by water scarcity, the podcast explores both the danger and the necessity of monsoon rains, sparking reflections on desert life and conservation.

Clarke elaborates on how water, despite its scarcity, is the primary sculptor of desert landscapes and essential for the survival of unique flora and fauna. He details the local impact of monsoonal rains on infrastructure and wildlife, emphasizing the importance of respecting and preparing for these natural events. 

Key Takeaways:

  • Monsoonal rainstorms are pivotal in shaping and maintaining the unique ecosystems of deserts.
  • Deserts are defined by their lack of water, with meteorological events like monsoons highlighting the delicate balance between scarcity and abundance in these environments. 
  • Human safety during monsoonal rains is paramount, as flash floods pose a significant risk to life and property, underscoring the importance of mindful interaction with desert landscapes. 
  • An engaging description of the scent of wet creosote after a monsoon provides a sensory glimpse into the captivating transformations brought about by these rainstorms.
  • Environmental advocacy and awareness are crucial for protecting desert ecosystems from threats and promoting sustainable interactions with these fragile areas. 

Notable Quotes:

  1. "Monsoons are a reminder that the best days in the desert are full of passionate intensity, while the worst lack all convection."
  2. "For every thousand people celebrating a monsoon, one person gets really badly damaged, sometimes through no fault of their own." 
  3. "When the monsoon comes, it's hard not to celebrate."
  4. "Water is like currency in the desert. It's scarce, and therefore, it's valuable."
  5. "Desert varnish and playa, even the visual symbol of how deserts are dry, got there because there used to be water there."

Resources:

  • "90 Miles from Needles" Podcast Website: 90milesfromneedles.com
  • National Weather Service for weather tracking and forecasts: https://www.weather.gov/ 
  • Chihuahuan Desert Fiesta event details for the El Paso Zoo https://chihuahuandesert.org/fiesta-information/

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S4E32: Joshua Trees are Still Caught in the Climate Crossfire23 Aug 202500:50:13

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke dives into recent legislative developments surrounding the protection of the iconic Western Joshua Tree in California. The conversation highlights the intricacies of conservation laws, the intricate process of implementing these policies, and the pushback from various stakeholders navigating this environmental directive. The discussion is enriched with insights from returning guest Brendan Cummings of the Center for Biological Diversity, who shares his expertise on species protection under the California Endangered Species Act.

The episode provides a comprehensive update on the California Fish and Game Commission's approval of the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Plan. This plan is required by the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act passed in 2023, seeking to protect Joshua trees threatened by climate change, development, and wildfires. Cummings, who was pivotal in initiating the process by petitioning to protect the Western Joshua Tree in 2019, offers an in-depth exploration of the process, the challenges faced, and the compromise built into the legislation.

Listeners are encouraged to stay tuned for the episode's conclusion, featuring the moving song "Joshua Tree" by Melanie Marshall, which thematically underscores the significance of preserving this desert species.

Key Takeaways:

Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act: The act passed in 2023 addresses climate change threats and simplifies permits for relocating or removing Joshua Trees, aiming for the species' long-term survival by 2033.

Collaboration and Compromise: The passing of protections involved compromise between environmentalists and industries, balanced by setting more straightforward processes for developers and prioritizing protection through coordinated conservational efforts.

Adapting to Climate Threats: The Conservation Plan identifies climate threats, prioritizing refugia and high-elevation areas for sustained Joshua Tree populations, with a focus on reducing invasive species and fire risks.

Community and Tribal Involvement: Engagement with local governments and Native American tribes plays a significant role in implementing conservation methods, highlighting cultural ties to the land and species.

Future Directions: By 2033, effectiveness will be reassessed, potentially reconsidering the species' threataned status if current measures do not mitigate the threats effectively.

Notable Quotes:

Brendan Cummings: "The Western Joshua Tree Conservation act signed into law in July 2023 was the first state law by California that recognized the climate threat to biodiversity."

Brendan Cummings: "The goal was to protect the species and to ensure Joshua trees continue to be a part of our desert communities."

Brendan Cummings: "The overriding threat, of course, is climate change. We also have increased fires fueled by invasive grasses, and then the most immediate threat, which is Joshua trees getting chopped down."

Robert Gomez: "I want to look at the cultural aspect of the Joshua Tree for our particular tribe… It means a lot to us."

Brendan Cummings: "We can hopefully figure out how to reduce the impacts or frequency of fire in Joshua tree habitat, but we're not going to stop it."

Resources:

Center for Biological Diversity: https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/

California Department of Fish and Wildlife: https://wildlife.ca.gov/Conservation/Environmental-Review/WJT/WJTCA

Melanie Marshall's Music: https://soundcloud.com/melaniemarshallmusic

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