First came '60 Songs That Explain the '90s.' (We did that.) Then came '60 Songs That Explain the '90s: The 2000s.' (We're doing that nowβand yes, that's the actual name.) But whether you want to jump back to the Clinton years or join us as we reboot our old iPods, you can find all of the collected works of Rob Harvilla below. Come back each Wednesday for a new episode.
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Pack up your winter gearβweβre headed to the Wisconsin woods. This week, Rob retreats into Justin Vernonβs cabin to remember the buzzy indie album βFor Emma, Forever Ago,β which launched the career of the eventual Grammy-winning band Bon Iver. He looks back on how critics and audiences were enamored with the narrative that Vernon wrote the album while heartbroken and alone in the woods, and the way his voice conveyed those feelings. Later, Robβs joined by The New York Timesβ Jon Caramanica to discuss if βSkinny Loveβ possibly led to βstomp-clapβ music and what collaborators like Kanye West and Taylor Swift heard in Bon Iver.
(00:00) Intro: Neko Caseβs voice as a force of nature
(30:19) This weekβs song: βSkinny Loveβ by Bon Iver
(32:36) Justin Vernonβs (many) early bands
(48:29) Bon Iverβs abstract lyrics
(55:05) βSkinny Loveβ and the narrative of βFor Emma, Forever Agoβ
(01:04:57) Interview with Jon Caramanica
(01:33:25) Outro
Host: Rob Harvilla
Guest: Jon Caramanica
Producers: Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, Justin Sayles, and Olivia Crerie
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Black Eyed Peas β βI Gotta Feelingβ
Wednesday, October 7, 2026 β’ Duration 01:36:03
Are bad lyrics good lyrics? Thatβs the question Rob posits as he tackles the Black Eyed Peas, who may have mastered the art of good-bad songwriting. He looks back on how the Peas jumped from hip-hop to pop after they added Fergie to their crew, until they ultimately hit dance music in 2009βbut they maintained their goofy sensibility the whole way. Later, Robβs joined by columnist Leslie Gray Streeter to discuss the merits of βMy Humpsβ and why βI Gotta Feelingβ has come to represent the Obamacore era.
(00:00) Intro: Lyrics so bad that ... maybe they're good?
(21:12) This weekβs song: βI Gotta Feelingβ by Black Eyed Peas
(24:57) BEPβs early hip-hop days
(39:05) Shifting to pop and recruiting Fergie
(51:54) The wonderfully dumb βThe E.N.D.β and βI Gotta Feelingβ
(01:00:24) Interview with Leslie Gray Streeter
(01:32:58) Outro
Host: Rob Harvilla
Guest: Leslie Gray Streeter
Producers: Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, Justin Sayles, and Olivia Crerie
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Lee Ann Womack β βI Hope You Danceβ
Wednesday, September 30, 2026 β’ Duration 01:36:18
She sings both kinds of musicβcountry and Westernβand you better be grateful for it. Lee Ann Womack followed in the footsteps of icons like Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn, and Tammy Wynette, but she took even greater inspiration from male country stars like George Jones. After making a name for herself with her captivating tunes, Womack reckoned with love and faith on the beautifulβand melancholy?β"I Hope You Dance," which became a crossover hit and Womack's signature song. Rob is joined by music journalist Marissa R. Moss, who discusses what Womack faced as a woman in country music during the late '90s and 2000s and the selflessness it takes to write a love song to someone who is leaving your life.
(00:00) Intro: The Blues Brothers go to Bob's Country Bunker
(24:19) Remembering Dolly Parton
(38:11) This week's song: "I Hope You Dance" by Lee Ann Womack
(41:02) Womack's early tracks and the state of country in the late '90s
(57:28) Is "I Hope You Dance" a sad or happy song?
(01:05:27) Interview with Marissa R. Moss
(01:33:12) Outro
Host: Rob Harvilla
Guest: Marissa R. Moss
Producers: Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, Justin Sayles, and Olivia Crerie
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An Overdue 60 Songs Mailbag
Wednesday, September 23, 2026 β’ Duration 01:36:39
Itβs been [redacted] years since our last mailbag episode, and Rob is finally back to answer all your burning questions about the β90s, 2000s, and more. Heβs joined by Bandsplainβs Yasi Salek to discuss everything from Jason Mraz to Weird Al to chain restaurants. Tune in to hear their responses to your queries (as well as Yasiβs plea for a Fuel episode).
(00:00) Intro with Yasi Salek(07:57) Opening the mailbag: What is a βgothβ?(17:25) Which songs explain the 2020s so far?(28:36) Which episode would you do over?(35:26) Thoughts on Weird Al and regrettable hot takes(57:48) Favorite eras of music and β90s artists Robβs grown to love(01:11:08) Questions about chain restaurants, surprises from the podcast, and living in Ohio(01:30:48) Final question: Are you scared of Swifties?
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Peter Bjorn and John β "Young Folks"
Wednesday, September 16, 2026 β’ Duration 01:30:51
Twee aesthetics, songs about fleeting youth (sung by people who are objectively young), and lots and lots of blogsβthatβs right, weβre talking about indie rock in the aughts. Today, Rob recounts how Swedish trio Peter Bjorn and John came from humble beginnings before their single βYoung Folksβ whistled its way to many best-of lists and became one of the eraβs defining indie anthems. Later, heβs joined by βSuch Great Heightsβ author Chris DeVille to discuss the legacy of Peter Bjorn and Johnβs album βWriterβs Blockβ and how it signals a shift in the commercialization of indie rock.
(00:00) Intro: Is the Beach Fossils Bass Toss indie rockβs peak?(26:43) This weekβs song: βYoung Folksβ by Peter Bjorn and John(31:50) The bandβs early days in Sweden(36:43) βFalling Outβ and PB&Jβs songs of fading youth(45:31) Indie twee and Robβs whistling perils(52:38) βYoung Folksβ and highlights from βWriterβs Blockβ(01:02:55) Interview with Chris DeVille(01:27:55) Outro
Host: Rob HarvillaProducers: Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, Justin Sayles, and Olivia CrerieGuest: Chris DeVille
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Evanescence β βBring Me To Lifeβ
Wednesday, September 9, 2026 β’ Duration 01:26:54
Although this podcast has continuously shown that we cheer for the underdog, every now and then we must tip our cap to the suits and head honchos. When Evanescenceβs record label insisted that Amy Lee sing alongside a rapper on their song, βBring Me To Life,β their seemingly cringey idea only accentuated Leeβs angsty vocals and became a multigenerational anthem. Later, Rob is joined by Brittany Spanos to discuss what it meant to have such a feminine singer enter the male dominated emo rock scene.
Host: Rob Harvilla
Producers: Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, Justin Sayles, and Olivia Crerie
Guest: Brittany Spanos
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Sade β βBy Your Sideβ
Wednesday, September 2, 2026 β’ Duration 01:46:11
This weekβs episode is all about comfort. Itβs about being remembered and what better person to commemorate that feeling with than the person whose music doesnβt seem to age- Sade. Sade came out with βBy Your Sideβ after disappearing with no explanation for 8 years because she felt that was best for her. That quiet confidence lends itself to making some of the, in Robβs words, horniest music imaginable, and the world is better for it. Finally, he is joined by Danyel Smith who explains how Sade laid the groundwork for artists like Rihanna to be the ultimate cool girl and how younger generations are still discovering Sade.
(00:00) Intro: Letβs remember some guys
(28:19) This weekβs song: βBy Your Sideβ by Sade
(31:46) Pride, βSmooth Operator,β and βDiamond Lifeβ
(42:50) The legacy of Quiet Storm
(49:25) Sadeβs public silences and ever-growing myth
(58:01) βBy Your Sideβ and Sadeβs comforting presence
(01:07:19) Interview with Danyel Smith
(01:42:50) Outro
Host: Rob Harvilla
Producers: Olivia Crerie, Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, and Justin Sayles
Guest: Danyel Smith
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Spoon β βThe Underdogβ
Wednesday, August 26, 2026 β’ Duration 01:36:16
Today, Rob explains how even after five successful studio albums, Spoon still felt vengeful enough to write the most triumphant song about being the underdog. He reflects on how Spoon's major label dropped the Austin rockers and became the opposite of a muse for the band, shaping their swaggery image. Finally, he is joined by music critic Ryan Dombal who greatly appreciates the snobbery of Spoon and the rockstar frontman energy of Britt Daniels.
(00:00) Intro: The three phases of major-label rock stardom
(21:23) This weekβs song: βThe Underdogβ by Spoon
(25:39) Britt Danielβs origins and βTelefonoβ
(34:56) How Spoon got dropped from Elektra Records
(40:48) Spoonβs evolution as the 21st century's most consistent band
(56:44) βThe Underdog,β the ultimate mouth-horn song
(01:02:28) Interview with Ryan Dombal
(01:33:02) Outro
Host: Rob Harvilla
Producers: Olivia Crerie, Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, and Justin Sayles
Guest: Ryan Dombal
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My Chemical RomanceββWelcome to the Black Paradeβ
Wednesday, August 19, 2026 β’ Duration 01:36:36
We should have known that, despite the irony, the kid from New Jersey who defended the purchasing of serial killer comics would grow up to become the defender of the broken, beaten, and damned. Today, Rob recollects the discovery of his emo phase with the enduring anthem βWelcome to the Black Parade,β by My Chemical Romance. He recounts the rise of the young band in a post-9/11 New Jersey and the pinnacle of their success with the grandiose showmanship of the 'Black Parade' album. At the end, he is joined by former My Chemical Romance producer and mentor Geoff Rickly, lead singer of the band Thursday, who knew early on that the band would be a global phenomenon.
Host: Rob Harvilla
Producers: Olivia Crerie, Julianna Ress, Chris Sutton, and Justin Sayles
Guest: Geoff Rickly
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Bush β βGlycerineβ
Wednesday, May 20, 2026 β’ Duration 01:30:51
Weβre going back to our roots this weekβback to our Toyota Corollas and Chrysler LeBarons or whatever other shitty cars we drove back in the β90sβto blast some Bush. Rob ponders whether frontman Gavin Rossdale is a good lyricist and extends some empathy in the age of Nirvana, when no alt-rock band could compare, especially those singing about their βwillies.β Finally, Rob is joined by national treasure and Robβs daughter Yasi Salek, who comes to defend the lyricism of cheekbone himbo Gavin Rossdale.
Host: Rob Harvilla
Producers: Julianna Ress, Olivia Crerie, Chris Sutton, and Justin Sayles
Additional Video Editing: Kevin Pooler
Guest: Yasi Salek
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