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| Change 2: Leading Change Without Losing People | 20 Feb 2026 | 00:50:23 | |
Resistance isn’t the problem. It’s the signal. Philippa and Penelope from 4D Human Being are back — and if change is on your radar right now, you don’t want to miss this one. Two people who’ve sat inside enough organisations to know that most change fails not because the strategy was wrong, but because the humans weren’t brought along. People don’t resist change. They resist being unclear, unsupported, and unconvinced. The Switch Model nails it in three parts:
Simple framework, genuinely useful — and Philippa and Penelope pull it apart in a way that actually sticks. The conversation gets particularly good when they hit the leadership blind spot nobody wants to admit: you’re being watched more than you’re being heard. What you do and what you praise moves people faster than any slide deck. Three tools they leave you with that actually work:
Warm, sharp, and to the point. Whether you’re leading change, living through it, or quietly resisting it yourself — this conversation will shift something for you. Less push. More possibility. -------- Resources Our team of 4D coaches and facilitators combine the knowledge, expertise and talents of entrepreneurs, business leaders, psychologists and actors to offer a unique suite of communication, leadership and wellbeing programmes to help you and your organisation choose your impact. Our approach looks at our development in all 4 of our dimensions: physical, emotional, intellectual and intentional. Taking you from being a 3D Human Doing, to a 4D Human Being. | |||
| Change 1: Redefining Resilience: Bend, Don’t Break | 06 Feb 2026 | 00:43:03 | |
What if resilience was less about armouring up and more about softening your step so you can spring back faster? This episode shows you how to build real-world resilience you can use today, at work and at home. You will learn:
Picture the moment you wobble. You pause, breathe out longer than you breathe in, change location for ten minutes, write the next three doable actions, and call a supportive colleague. You return regulated, clearer, and kinder. Over time your recovery time shrinks from days to minutes. Listen today and choose one move. Name your early warning signs, plan your recovery routine, become self aware of it, and put it into practice this week. | |||
| Team Toxins, Antidotes, and Choice | 02 Oct 2025 | 00:49:04 | |
Want more cohesive, collaborative, and healthy teams? Most team problems don’t start in the plan—they start in the space between people. In this podcast, Philippa and Penelope break down the behaviours that quietly wreck trust and teamwork, so you can build teams that actually work well together. You’ll hear about Gottman’s Four Horsemen and how they show up in everyday team life: Defensiveness – That knee-jerk pushback, blame-shifting and excuse-making instead of listening. Criticism/Blame – Attacking someone’s character rather than addressing the issue. Contempt – Acting superior through sarcasm, eye-rolling, or mean-spirited jokes. Stonewalling – Completely checking out and going radio silent. Better yet, you’ll get practical antidotes you can use today. Curiosity turns defensiveness into learning. Constructive communication replaces blame with clarity. Appreciation undercuts contempt. Care and connection repair stonewalling. You’ll hear real examples, scripts, and simple tweaks you can try this week to cut drama and build a shared language for conflict that actually helps. If you’re tired of being stuck in the “who’s right?” mud pit, this is your way out. Follow the show, share it with someone who needs it, and drop a quick review. Which antidote will you try first? | |||
| EP52 - Summer Mufflers | 10 Aug 2021 | 00:30:31 | |
Welcome to the 4D Human Being podcast. Join Philippa and Penelope as they wander through a bull field and chat about the bull, mono-slippers and the topic of the day – fluid living. Life is uncertain and we have all been reminded of that over the past year. Planning and controlling our lives, work schedules and travel plans has become increasingly more challenging and perhaps there is a gift in that. 4D celebrate and integrate the wonderful world of improvisation into their work and those skills couldn’t be more relevant in the current climate - with the need to adapt to a much more fluid way of working and living. We hope you enjoy the show! | |||
| EP51 - The wonders of WellBeing with guest Jessie Pavelka | 20 Jul 2021 | 00:57:01 | |
Hello and welcome to the 4D Leadership Podcast. The podcast that looks at everything around communication, team dynamics, leadership, culture and everything that impacts you every day. We hope you enjoy the show and thank you for listening. | |||
| EP50 - Carlo on the landing | 24 Jun 2021 | 00:29:08 | |
How easy is it to find harmony both inside ourselves and simultaneously with others and the outside world. Finding congruence in life means really listening to ourselves AND having the skillset to respond and communicate with others so we can align how we live and respond with the values we hold. Join Philippa and Penelope in a light hearted look at congruence. Enjoy the show! Find out more at 4Dhumanbeing.com. | |||
| EP49 - Cheese on toast with an egg on top | 13 Jun 2021 | 00:34:38 | |
Welcome to this ‘joy-filled episode’. Join Philippa and Penelope as we explore the human need for joy and laughter. How can we bring more joy into our lives - which as Philippa shares, can be as simple as recognizing the joy in cheese on toast with an egg on top! Please like and subscribe and find out more about who we are and what we do at 4Dhumanbeing.com. Enjoy the show! | |||
| EP48 - Bunnies and Tattoos | 18 May 2021 | 00:32:29 | |
Welcome to the 4D Human Being podcast. In this episode Penelope and Philippa consider in a world full of uncertainty, where do we find as much certainty and security as we can? Do we look to the external world and other people to provide a sense of safety and ‘knowing’ and… can we find certainty within ourselves. From pop groups to tattoos, to returning to work… join us as we explore our sense of self-certainty in an inherently uncertain world. | |||
| EP47 - Mini skirts and back to the office | 05 May 2021 | 00:31:04 | |
Whether considering adapting to new fashion trends or to the ever-changing world around us, join Philippa and Penelope as we consider tips tools and ideas and consider how amazing we are as human beings stepping into change - and adapting to a new normal. Find out more at 4Dhumanbeing.com - please like and subscribe to the podcast. And… Enjoy the show! | |||
| EP46 - Owls and Bowels | 14 Apr 2021 | 00:23:59 | |
When we think about how we communicate and how we interact with other people, how much time do we spend talking and how much time do we spend really listening. The power of the wise old owl is immense - so how can we be the ‘vase’ that shapes conversations and ultimately... reality. | |||
| EP45 - Letting go to letting in | 31 Mar 2021 | 00:28:19 | |
Today we ask - are we willing to let go, in order to let in? As the Professor of Literature - Joseph Campbell - said | |||
| EP44 - Porridge vs The Maldives | 16 Mar 2021 | 00:26:53 | |
In a world where planning anything for the next few days, weeks and months are challenging, Penelope and Philippa ponder on how we can adjust our thinking about what we look forward to. Whether that’s or appreciating a glove that works on an iPhone or looking forward to a pimped bowl of porridge. Can we rethink where our actual pleasure and joy comes from and seek it in those smaller moments of life? Enjoy the show! | |||
| EP43 - Model Behaviour | 01 Mar 2021 | 00:29:59 | |
Welcome to the 4D human Being podcast. Today we ask - What are you modelling? How can you “be the change you wish to see in the world (Credit to Gandhi for that one!😌). | |||
| Top Teams: Without Trust, Your Team Will Never Reach Its Full Potential | 18 Sep 2025 | 00:40:38 | |
What makes teams work or fail? It all comes down to trust. In part 2 of our Top Teams series, Philippa and Penelope Waller dive deep into the essential foundation of effective teamwork, revealing that without trust, even the most talented groups will struggle to achieve their potential. | |||
| EP42 - Toxic Positivity | 15 Feb 2021 | 00:35:28 | |
| EP41 - Worry | 26 Jan 2021 | 00:41:43 | |
Don’t worry! In this episode Philippa and Penelope are talking about worry. And Philippa has gone bullet point crazy with all the topics we would love to cover on this very important subject. Enjoy the show! | |||
| EP40 - Dog walking and rollerblading our way to creativity | 12 Jan 2021 | 00:32:39 | |
In this episode, Penelope and Philippa take a walk in the Surrey woods (in a support bubble kind of a way!) with their dogs Billy and Bear. Whilst the terrain isn’t that suitable for rollerblading - they do discuss the idea of rollerblading and much more as they explore the question ‘what do we want?’ Perhaps not a question we ask ourselves when we are juggling the challenges of life, especially in current times. But perhaps an important question, since it is particularly at times when we are under stress that it can feel like the world is telling us what we can and can’t do and who we can and can’t be. From wanting a muffin to wanting to be a mentor, take a ‘walk’ with them as they ramble through life and how we can try to do what we can to consciously create it. | |||
| EP39- Unpacking suitcases, moving furniture and... creating our own reality | 06 Jan 2021 | 00:27:58 | |
Is the world happening to you or are you happening to the world? In this episode, Philippa and Penelope discuss how as human beings we have much more control over the creation of our own realities and experiences than perhaps many of us realise. Are we always being buffeted around by the changing weather of life, or do we find ways to stay on course, feeling clear about who we are, what we want and the reality we want to create? Join Phil and Pen as they laugh and look at some of those big questions. | |||
| EP38- Your Body is your Friend | 14 Dec 2020 | 00:31:06 | |
In this episode, Master Coach and Cultural Change Consultant Rebecca Watson is back on the show talking with 4D’s Katie Churchman about listening to and learning from the body’s signals. ‘Not doing enough’ is a fear-based activity and in this episode Becks advocates for more space to listen to- and see- the body for what it is: an amazing and unbelievably complex system that’s only got our best interests at heart! This podcast covers a variety of topics including: personal energy, self-care, appreciating the body and changing the relationship we have with our body. | |||
| EP37 - Leading for Creativity - Lessons from the Theatre | 01 Dec 2020 | 00:43:46 | |
In this episode of the 4D Human Being podcast Matt, Philippa and Claire are talking about the challenges of leading through uncertainty and managing a creative team. They draw on the parallels between business leadership and theatre from interviews held with current theatre directors and their own experience as actors, theatre directors and coaches. | |||
| EP36 - Finding joy in 4-dimensions... and on the carpet! | 25 Oct 2020 | 00:38:52 | |
In this episode, 4D’s Matt Beresford and Penelope Waller use the 4D2C model as a foundation to discuss how the COVID pandemic and lockdown have radically changed the world around us. They discuss how it has impacted us physically, emotionally and intellectually and also, what we might do to respond. They also look at how we can find joy in the everyday- in the here and now- in a world where the future is less predictable than ever… | |||
| EP35 - Responsibility and capacity (and the dirty hand thing!) | 29 Sep 2020 | 00:26:44 | |
Penelope and Philippa have very different approaches to being early and being late! They humorously discuss these differences, as well as different levels of responsibility we feel in life, how much capacity we each have to juggle things in our lives and of course... doing the whole dirty hand thing! | |||
| EP34 - Shame and unexpected Sunday delivery parcels | 31 Aug 2020 | 00:43:38 | |
In this episode, 4D’s Philippa and Penelope look at the topic of shame. How this universal feeling arises through our interactions, how it can overwhelm us and dictate the choices we make. Join Pen and Phil as they laugh their way through the triggers, feelings and behaviours of shame, getting told off, self-compassion and unexpected Sunday delivery parcels. | |||
| EP33- Life After Lock-Down | 11 Aug 2020 | 00:43:02 | |
In this episode, 4D’s Katie Churchman is talking with Master Coach and Cultural Change Consultant Rebecca Watson about life after lock-down. Rebecca Watson is a thought leader in the field of human consciousness and potential. She works with leaders to help create high performing sustainable cultures and she works with individuals who are going through what she calls 'Mid-Life Awakening'. She's a Speaker, Author and spends most days trying to 'walk her talk'! For more information about Rebecca’s work check out this link. | |||
| Top Teams: From Vulnerability to Reliability | 28 Aug 2025 | 00:55:31 | |
What if trust isn't just something that magically appears in teams, but rather something you can actively build? In this insightful exploration of team dynamics, Philippa and Penelope Waller unpack the often mysterious concept of trust and transform it into practical, actionable strategies that anyone can implement. | |||
| EP32 - When Sport Stops | 09 Jun 2020 | 00:39:53 | |
In this episode of the 4D Human Being podcast, Penelope Waller and Matt Beresford talk to Jack Rathborn, a sports journalist with the Independent, on how the Coronavirus pandemic has impacted both the world of sport and those who love it. For many people sport is a huge part of life - whether that’s playing, spectating or arguing about it over a beer with friends. It provides the lubricant to a lot of our social interactions and acts as a series of waymarks through the year; it provides a sense of camaraderie, excitement, purpose and tribalism – all of which human beings have sought throughout our evolution. So join Jack, Matt and Penelope as they discuss how the postponement of sport is impacting both them, the people they know and the wider world. | |||
| EP31 - From Dirty Workouts to Tea Cosies | 22 May 2020 | 00:38:07 | |
In this episode, Penelope and Philippa are exploring the diverse range of pandemic experiences. The pandemic is so many things. There’s so much goodness showing up and there’s much to grieve. And just like life, it’s not one ‘thing.’ Even if we had identical lock-down situations, we would still experience them very differently. And perhaps ‘lockdown’ comparisons aren’t always useful. Because we aren’t the same. Our external and internal worlds are so different, and the challenges From the serious and sad to the lighthearted. From grief, to home schooling, dirty workouts and the pleasure of a tea cosy - can we step-in and embrace this diversity of experiences, within ourselves and in other people?
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| EP30 - Calm in a Crisis | 05 May 2020 | 00:29:02 | |
We’re pleased to welcome back monk and mindfulness coach Danny Hill back. In this episode, Katie is talking to Danny about staying calm in a crisis. Given that Danny has spent several months at a time in self-imposed solitude and silence, at various ashrams and retreats, we thought he’d be the perfect guest to offer advice and insight that can help us through this period of uncertainty. Many of us around the world right now find ourselves in lock-down and are dealing with varying degrees of challenge and change. So in this episode, Danny offers advice around mindful breathing, staying in the moment and enjoying the blossoms of spring. | |||
| EP29 - Should I get a dog? | 21 Apr 2020 | 00:31:31 | |
In this episode, Penelope and Katie are laughing about some of the not-so-glamorous realities of being in lock-down and talking about how this situation is forcing us to re-think our lives, our priorities and our goals. Across the course of their conversation, they discuss the new-normal, the potential for long-term lock-down, the so-called ‘gifts’ in this situation and whether or not Penelope should get a dog. | |||
| EP28 - Baked Peaches | 13 Apr 2020 | 00:40:04 | |
Whether in normal life or in a crisis as human beings we will all suffer loss. And that may be loss of a loved one, or it may be loss of a routine or a job or loss of meeting a friend. It’s all loss. And we have very different ways of coping. So in this episode, Penelope and Philippa take a light hearted look at a difficult subject during a difficult time. Even in the moments of loss we can find growth, insights, strength and even humour. | |||
| EP27 - Home and work – colliding! | 27 Mar 2020 | 00:28:25 | |
Many of us find ourselves in a situation of working from home. Now whether you typically work from home or not, it’s likely that the home-working circumstances we usually find ourselves in vs what we are now dealing with now, are somewhat different. Whether that’s because we have school-age children at home or because others in our home are now sharing the home-work space (who usually don’t!) - let’s think about what these challenges might be and what’s important in a home-working time of crisis! | |||
| EP26 - From loo roll to love | 23 Mar 2020 | 00:30:23 | |
From loo roll to love are we aware of response patterns in a crisis? And how might we become more conscious of these response patterns so we can choose the response that is going to best serve us in the situations we find ourselves in? Whether its resilience in work or relationships 4D are passionate about creating healthy response patterns in a virtual world. | |||
| EP25 - Anger | 08 Mar 2020 | 00:42:10 | |
Episode 25 is all about anger. Anger is a natural response to feelings of embarrassment, disappointment or betrayal. Yet, many of us see anger as a negative response that we should try to hide and suppress. So in this episode Penelope and Philippa look at anger as a gift—a natural, internal signal that often identifies opportunities for healing and growth. Anger is sending us a message, it’s our internal system telling us something. | |||
| EP24 - Dare to Dream | 10 Feb 2020 | 00:30:08 | |
Our modern world stems from dreams – dreams turned into reality. So if we want to help shape the experience of ours and other people's lives, we have to value the dreaming stage in any project, decision or relationship. Of course, dreaming comes more easily to some of us than others, so in this episode, Katie and Penelope discuss ways to overcome dream blockers and look at how we can build our capacity to dream. Your reality starts from the essence of your dreams and the dreams of those close to you, so start living from your dreams today – with your whole being- and watch as your fantasies turn into your reality. | |||
| EP23 - Mindful Awareness | 02 Feb 2020 | 00:43:18 | |
We’re delighted to have meditation and mindfulness coach Danny Hill (aka 'The Monk on a Motorbike') back on the show. In this episode, we’re talking about bringing mindful awareness into our everyday lives. Living with Mindful awareness is being fully aware and tuned in to what is going on right now, in the present moment. But as Danny and Katie discuss this is much easier said than done as it can be all too easy to go through life on autopilot, caught up thinking about past events or planning for the future. So how might we overcome some of the challenges many of us will have experienced with mindfulness? And how might this transform our experience of life- without necessarily changing anything tangible at all? | |||
| Summer Lessons: Embracing Uncertainty | 21 Aug 2025 | 00:42:47 | |
What happens when expectations meet reality during those six fleeting summer weeks? In this thoughtful exploration of summer lessons, the 4D Human Being directors dive into the illuminating gap between what we anticipate and what actually unfolds. | |||
| EP22 - Mirror Mirror | 28 Jan 2020 | 00:39:51 | |
Instead of blaming another person in a relationship, can we turn the mirror on ourselves in order to uncover what we might be rejecting in ourselves? In this funny and light-hearted podcast, Penelope and Philippa turn the mirror on themselves and lean into triggers their triggers. What might we learn when we see our attitudes and behaviours reflected back at us? | |||
| EP21 - Relationship with Self | 09 Dec 2019 | 00:36:41 | |
Join Penelope and Philippa, as they humbly and openly discuss the relationships we have with our ‘self'. | |||
| EP20: Acting 'As If...' | 26 Nov 2019 | 00:32:33 | |
In this episode of the 4D Human Being Podcast, Stephanie Kasen and Katie Churchman are talking about acting “as if.” Acting "as if" doesn't mean you have to be fake or inauthentic. It's about changing your behaviour or language and trusting that the feelings will follow. As long as your motivation is in the right place, and you stay connected to your truth, acting “as if” can help your goals become your reality. Just make sure you're interested in changing yourself on the inside, not simply trying to change other people's perceptions of you. So instead of “fake it until you make it” we like to say, “be it to become it.” Be the thing you want to be, start running before you can walk, and step into a new way of being and experiencing yourself and your life. | |||
| EP19: Internal or External Motivation in a Virtual World | 17 Nov 2019 | 00:37:15 | |
In this episode, Penelope Waller, Stephanie Kasen and Katie Churchman talk about the challenges of working remotely and being part of an international team. As facilitators and coaches at 4D Human Being, they regularly find themselves travelling all over the world for work. However, the 4D team also live in different parts of the world as well, with bases in Milan, London, Charlotte and New York. So a couple of weeks ago, when the trio was running a workshop together in New Jersey, they took the opportunity to record a podcast and speak honestly about the challenges and rewards of working from home, travelling for work and staying connected as an international team. | |||
| EP18: Shifting Identity: Adapting your identity in a new (and foreign) community | 20 Oct 2019 | 00:36:27 | |
There are many benefits to moving abroad: you may get to embrace new opportunities, perhaps learn a new language and experience the sights, sounds, traditions and flavours of a very different culture. However, moving abroad also comes with its challenges. In April 2018, Etna International asked 500 expats: ‘has your sense of identity changed since living abroad?’, ‘do you like yourself more?’ as well as other questions related to the psychological impact of settling into a new culture. The survey revealed that 35% of expats surveyed said their sense of identity had changed So, in this episode Katie Churchman and Penelope Waller discuss the challenges, changes and joys that come from moving abroad. | |||
| EP17: Relational Patterns | 15 Oct 2019 | 00:30:33 | |
In this episode we’ve got both of the Waller sisters on the show at the same time talking about relationship patterns. As identical twin sisters Philippa and Penelope Waller know a lot about understanding the self through relationship. And the truth is that whether we or not we are a twins, in a romantic partnership, or on only child, we are always in relationship. And always have been. We are shaped by the relationships we are in because we do not live in a bubble. We exist within two contexts, the environment and our shared culture. Today’s episode consider how the people in our lives and the relational patterns we form with them are constantly shaping who we are and who we will become. To quote Jacob Moreno, one of the 20th century’s foremost advocates of human interaction defined his fellow human beings as the following: “Man is a relational being.” | |||
| EP16: So what do you do? | 29 Sep 2019 | 00:35:46 | |
In this episode Philippa Waller is talking with Anna Melville-James about portfolio identity, or rather the ‘what do you do’ question. | |||
| EP15: Making Sense of Meditation | 21 Sep 2019 | 00:51:05 | |
In this episode Katie Churchman talks with Danny Hill (aka The Monk on a Motorbike) about meditation and mindfulness. Danny is a meditation teacher and mindfulness and happiness coach who is helping people around the planet make sense of meditation. Danny is a passionate advocate of mindfulness as a powerful yet simple and accessible tool for personal transformation. He is keen to explain this is a straightforward holistic practice that brings greater awareness to every aspect of our lives and with it a sense of calm and joy. A former Buddhist monk, he has spent long periods on silent, intensive meditation retreats in Asia and the UK and has been practicing meditation since 1995. Danny Hill lives in London, loves to get around on his motorbike, and is known to his friends and students as the ‘Monk on a Motorbike’. He also hosts a podcast of the same name.
Website link: https://monkonamotorbike.com/ | |||
| EP14: Shadow Selves | 10 Sep 2019 | 00:46:37 | |
In episode 14, Katie Churchman and Philippa Waller explore our shadow selves: the parts of self that we shy away from admitting and sharing with the world. This episode is all about understanding and embracing our shadow sides in order to step into a more whole and balanced way of being. Our shadow side doesn’t have to stay in the dark: it can be an asset for stepping into a much more rounded, accepting and open way of being. | |||
| EP13: Taking charge of your own life story (Part 2) | 07 Sep 2019 | 00:53:26 | |
In this episode, Katie Churchman and Philippa Waller continue their exploration into the stories we tell ourselves. Remember: you are not your thoughts. And you are not your stories. | |||
| Spiral Dynamics: Why YOUR Company Needs Every Colour of the Spiral | 07 Aug 2025 | 00:43:22 | |
In this concluding episode of our Spiral Dynamics trilogy, we explore how leaders can create truly integrated cultures that honour diverse perspectives across the entire spiral. We break down five essential areas for building a spiral-aware culture:
Offering practical insights for speaking to every colour on the spiral. And don't forget to sign up for our Essentials membership at 4dhumanbeing.com and learn how to identify and communicate effectively with every value set. | |||
| EP12: The Fear of Living | 28 Aug 2019 | 00:37:37 | |
In this episode Philippa Waller and Claire Galmiche flip the fear of dying on it’s head by exploring the ways in which a fear of living can hold us back and stop us from really living the lives that we want to lead… | |||
| EP11: Career Challenge and Change | 14 Aug 2019 | 00:33:20 | |
In this episode Katie Churchman talks with Felicity Bown about career challenge and change. Felicity is a business development manager at a large multi national. After a highly successful career at a specialised publishing firm, Felicity moved into a large corporation looking for a career change. And she’s been speedily climbing the corporate ladder ever since. However, as with all change, the career move presented its own challenges... -The ever elusive concept of work life balance -How to blend your passions into your work -How to shape a positive professional persona? For both yourself and others -And how to stretch yourself into new ways of being, in order to change your experience of work. | |||
| EP10: Journeys | 04 Aug 2019 | 00:29:00 | |
In this episode Katie Churchman and Penelope Waller explore how our everyday journeys reflect the way we live our lives. Many of us live our lives rushing from A to B, so much so that we often miss the beautiful journey along the way. How can we reshape our relationships with journeys so that we can live with more purpose and meaning in the everyday? And how might we see our journeys as a destination in their own right? | |||