This is a conversation with wilderness guide Scout Wilkins about resilience of the natural world, trees specifically, and how she has found her own resiliency by being a part of it. 

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Rattled by the loss of a loved one and how little she knew about death, Sairey Luterman found  her true calling as an end of life counselor to help others be more prepared.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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When Heather Straughter’s son got sick, her perspective shifted. She discovered how fragile life is. She had to keep pivoting, when she was forced to change her expectations and recalibrate hope. 

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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As a teenager Michael discovered he was a great tennis player. He fell into a flow state that he spent decades studying and striving to achieve again. He became a psychologist in the process. After years of telling clients to face their fears, Michael Brady has taken his own advice and confronted his perfectionism, but it’s still difficult to let go.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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For years Sonia Kahlon succeeded by her parents’ and husband's standards, but it was only after getting sober and volunteering at a women’s prison that Sonia found her true calling.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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After years of relying on cocaine and caffeine to focus Kathleen discovers she has ADHD. The diagnosis and subsequent tools help her achieve her dream of becoming a therapist.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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After years of capture kill missions Kervin Aucoin now employs his military training to help people thrive. He says sharing his story keeps his PTSD at bay.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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At 15 Meghan Callaghan was left alone with her grandfather for the day. What started out as a seemingly ordinary day became a defining moment in Meghan’s life.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Rod Nordland, author of "Waiting For The Monsoon," doesn’t plan to die from an incurable brain cancer. He’s a survivor — of violence, war, and now disease.

"Although it's been terrible, I wouldn't change it back, his partner Leila Segal says. "Even though I was in love with him and I loved him before, I would never have got the relationship I now have with this man unless this had happened. Not only to him, to me too, because of course I've had to change." 

"Learning to love and express love was a very important part of my second life," Nordland says. 

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Shawna Beesley, known to most as Adaline, says there’s no dopamine hit like saving someone from hell. Today she finds that high performing on stage. She discovered she had to shed her golden child identity and reconcile with her evangelical upbringing to be true to herself and come out to her family.

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We’re working hard on season 10 of 2 Lives, which we’ll be bringing you just in time to kick off your summer. In the meantime I thought I’d share a bit about 2 Lives origin story.

The following is a speech Laurel gave at the Flagstaff Women’s Leadership Summit. 

I love stories. I love listening to them. I love watching them. I love reading them. And I love making them. But when I’m consuming stories, I’m tuning out the world and my inner voice – my source of creativity. This a story about how I tuned back into my source.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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“The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

TW: We mention an assault.

Lauren’s heart stopped for 24 minutes. It took almost dying to realize she couldn’t get through life on her own.

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TW: Mention of suicide.

Rachel Zients Schinderman helps people heal through storytelling because that is how she and her mom dealt with her dad’s death by suicide, but she’s learned to make way for new stories.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Joshua "The Jedi" Loya lost his eyesight at 15, but that didn’t stop him from skydiving, surfing, Ju-Jitsu, and stand up comedy. Joshua says choosing sometimes the scary thing makes him feel authentically himself and helps him to live well with PTSD. 

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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It took a life threatening situation to give Kafi Joseph permission to make her own rules about what she needs.  She learned that burnout was a symptom of a deeper worry that she wasn’t valuable unless she was driving hard.  Now this West Point grad uses her can-do attitude to take care of herself.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Morgan O’Kane spent much of his young life searching for meaning and a high. It wasn’t until he sacrificed alcohol for the love of his child that he reconnected with his true nature. Through train-hopping, mountaineering, music, fatherhood and two very special dogs, Morgan O’Kane found his way home.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Content Warning: We mention suicide in this episode.

After decades of telling people what she believed they wanted to hear, Helen Sneed shares openly her struggles with mental illness because it provides hope and ultimately saves lives, but it took many agonizing years of therapy, hospitalizations, and finally finding community to get here.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Wenche Fredriksen is on a mission to help people accept they are enough after perfectionism took its toll on her. She suffered from years of chronic illness and back pain before a doctor told her she needed to recover from burnout.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Yohance Lacour creates luxury hiphop sneakers because they represent both his humble beginnings on Chicago's south side as well as the high fashion person he became, but it took a decade’s long prison sentence to learn how to make the shoes and to work toward the greater good.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Valerie Milburn was getting help for her mental illness but it wasn’t until her husband told her she couldn’t come home until she found stability that she turned her life around. It was then she began to fight for her recovery and to find the right treatment for her bipolar disorder and PTSD. Today she’s been married 40 years and she’s close with her children and grandchildren. On top of all that she's helped many people with her story.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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“The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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After hating her body for 35 years Adiba Nelson became a burlesque dancer celebrating her curves and scars to show her daughter, who was born with a disability, how to embrace her own body. This episode won 2 Lives a 2023 Signal Award for best indie podcast (silver), as well as runner up for an International Women's Podcast Award.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Alex Reegan became a reverend after two decades of feeling disconnected from God and after rejecting his ultra conservative evangelical christian faith. Today he helps other LGBTQIA folks on their spiritual journey.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Jeff Morris has made it his mission to prevent suicide after he attempted to kill himself six times but it wasn’t until he received a bipolar 2 diagnosis and figured out how to manage instead of cure his depression that he learned how to live.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Beth Pizzarello’s blindness saved her life in a hurricane when she used her heightened senses to get to safety but she had to figure out a way to help herself before the Americans With Disabilities Act passed and when she didn’t qualify for disabilities.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Mike Ivy, Deputy Chief Medical Officer at Yale New Haven Health, shares his story of burnout and suicide because its a crisis in the medical community and he wants to help other health workers but he fights taboos of shame around his perceptions of “weakness” and mental illness.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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L. Nichols has boundless empathy for their Southern Baptist community but embraces their found family because they helped L. accept who they are. Now having kids of their own, L. shows up for them in a new way.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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After Jessica Waite's husband died, she was sent a box of his personal belongings that revealed one betrayal after another. But eventually with the help of a death doula Jessica was able to forgive him.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Originally Aired in May of 2022

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Therapist Sarah White broke up with booze and what she calls her ‘booze bonds,’ friends and family who could only connect through alcohol, after seeing their impacts on her life. 

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Simon Kent Fung devoted three years of his life to creating a podcast about an aspiring nun, whose life paralleled his own. He also sought out conversion therapy for nearly a decade to become a  Catholic priest. Fung was compelled to understand the truth about what happened to her, and finally face what happened to him.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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After years of being forced to be a child bride in a cult and keep it a secret, today Tamara belongs to herself, but she still struggles with certain brainwashed beliefs and remains angry with Sufi leaders.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Shamony Gibson died after giving birth from an issue that could have been prevented. Omari Maynard and the rest of her family have made it their mission to prevent more BIPOC women from dying preventable deaths.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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I’d like to think every month is ‘Don’t Be a Bully Month,’ but the social media gods claimed August. Regardless it's a good reminder to listen to one of my favorite 2 Lives episodes featuring Coach Marty who has made it his life’s mission to put a stop to bullying.

Coach Marty Heilman has made an impact on thousands of kids. He knows all too well what lasting impacts teasing can have so he strives to put a stop to bullying.

Content Warning: There is some talk of self harm in this episode.

For more information about body image and eating disorders go to NEDA's website.

We’re working on a new 2 Lives season that will launch September 5. Keep listening at the end of today’s show for a preview.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Coming up this season on 2 Lives - Stories Of Transformation

We’ll meet Omari Maynard who's helping other BIPOC families cope with the loss of a loved one and raising awareness about health care equality after his wife died in childbirth.

We’ll hear how Tamara MC is reclaiming her life after years of being forced into a cult and how she still struggles with certain brainwashed beliefs.

And we’ll meet artist L Nichols who could not imagine a future until he realized he was a trans man. It was through his drawing that he began to make it a reality.

That’s all coming up this fall in season eight of 2 Lives -- “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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For most of her life Viki Stein has struggled to learn so much that she became a teacher to help other kids who felt frustrated and dumb. It wasn’t until age 53 that she learned that she had dyslexia and became better trained to understand herself and help others like her.

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Ian Goldstein has found comedy to be the best remedy for his Crohn’s disease and fear of aging because he discovered he wasn't alone but he had to get comfortable being completely vulnerable on stage.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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CW: A head’s up we discuss disordered eating and body dysmorphia in this episode. For information about eating disorders go to the National Eating Disorders website or 2lives.org

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Stephanie Washington embraces her body and shows her daughter how to love herself because Stephanie wound up near death in the hospital after she tried to diminish herself and assimilate.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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Audra Travelbee has dedicated her life to connecting people who feel isolated because she felt alone much of her life dealing with complex PTSD, but it took COVID and getting laid off from her teaching job to realize her mission.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

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TW: This episode deals with a stillbirth.

Katie Joy Duke is battling stage 4 metastatic breast cancer with grace and vulnerability because she’s survived the death of a child. It took relating to her daughter in a new way, accepting that she isn't perfect, and learning to surrender to the process.

Since the production of this episode we are thrilled to learn Katie's latest CT scan shows she is cancer free!

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Trevon Bosley has dedicated his life to protesting gun violence since his brother was shot and killed in 2006 but with the number of shootings he gets discouraged at times. That’s when he remembers historical events that have proven change is possible.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Find out more about Trevon Bosley and the BRAVE youth leaders on our website.

TW: A heads up we mention an eating disorder and suicide.

For suicide prevention and mental health resources visit 2lives.org

Lisa Sorrell was raised by Evangelical Christians who preached God heals, not doctors. After losing her daughter and feeling abandoned by her church, she chooses to listen to her own inner voice for guidance.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Find out more about Lisa Sorrell and her incredible boots on our website.

We’ve reached a milestone at 2 Lives of 150,000 downloads. June 15, 2023, marks our three year anniversary and to celebrate we’d love it if you’d help us reach 200,000. If there’s an episode that resonated with you, we’d love it if you’d share it with a friend. And thank you!

Her whole life Pardis Mahdavi tried to belong -- in the US, then in Iran. And finally she decided to be a bridge between two cultures but it took an arrest by the morality police and a crisis of identity to get there.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Sisters Rasha Pecoraro and Yvette Gentile are carrying their mother's torch shining the light on the darkness after coming to terms with the fact that their great grandfather George Hodel was the prime suspect in the most notorious unsolved murder of the 20th century.

Their mother Fauna Hodel always told them: "You are not this supposed evilness that we come from. You are pure love and light because you come from me."

TW: Some material may not be suitable for young ears.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

Learn more about Rasha Pecoraro and Yvette Gentile on our website 2lives.org.

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2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Sisters Rasha Pecoraro and Yvette Gentile have dedicated their lives to shining a light in the dark because that is what their mother deeply ingrained in them after she broke the shame cycle.

They’ve just released the second season of their podcast “Facing Evil.” The sisters are better known for their first true crime podcast “Root of Evil,” where they open up about their great grandfather’s connection to the Black Dahlia murder. 

I think you’ll agree that 2 Lives and Facing Evil are kindred podcasts. I’m so excited to share their story with you in season 7 of 2 Lives coming up April 18.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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At 31 a psychiatrist finally solved the mystery inside Joan Kopczynski and told her she could manage her mental illness. But first she had to reconcile a series of traumatic events that would plague anyone with or without schizoaffective disorder.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Find out more about Joan Kopczynski and read the transcript at our website.

A nurse teaches health professionals how to orchestrate a death after her two year old son died. She learned she had to experience his death with all her senses before she could accept and believe it.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Find out more about Jessica Diefenbach and Project 660 at our website 2lives.org.

Michelle Grua is a woman of science. As a pediatric anesthesiologist, for many years she believed only what she could see, hear, and touch. She trusted data and research. But when her dead husband reached out from beyond the grave in ways she could not deny, she had to reconcile science with the super natural. 

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions and in this episode two songs courtesy of Michelle and Kenton Grua.

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TW: Mention of suicide. The national suicide prevention lifeline is 988.

Czarina Salido helps Native girls get to space camp because as a child she found solace in the stars but no one looked like her in her math and science classes.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vespoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Find out more about Czarina Salido and Taking Up Space on our website 2lives.org.

After hating her body for 35 years Adiba Nelson became a burlesque performer celebrating her curves and scars to show her daughter, who was born with a disability, how to embrace her own body.

2 Lives “The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”

2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales, story edited by Ruxandra Guidi. Lauren Vispoli is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and web designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.

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Drop us a note on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. You can learn how to support the show here. 

Find out more about Adiba Nelson and her books at 2lives.org. Episode transcripts are posted on our website.

This season is supported by the Women's Foundation for the State of Arizona.