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| #85 Hot Takes: What Five Episodes of Research Taught Us with Seth, Allyson, and Tami | 20 Jul 2026 | 00:41:55 | |
In this special episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring skip the guest interview and trade hot takes drawn from their recent run of research conversations — with Michael Barbour, Bobbi Sandberg, Jered Borup, and Kristen DeBruler. Each host came in with their own list, then picked which ones to dig into together. What surfaces is a set of specific, evidence-backed reframes: where parents' instincts to help go wrong, why remote isolation is a design failure rather than an inherent cost of distance learning, and what's actually breaking down when students sense their teachers are using AI on their feedback. Together, the hosts work through the Academic Communities of Engagement framework's head/heart/hands distinction, and why the "heart" and "hands" work — trust, executive-functioning support — protects kids more than parents jumping in on academic content. They connect a CBS News piece on remote-worker isolation to Michael Barbour's finding that logging into school was, for some students, the most normal part of their pandemic day, arguing that isolation is what happens when culture isn't designed on purpose, not something baked into the medium. And they spend the back half of the episode on AI: not the cheating problem schools have mostly focused on, but the mirror-image trust break when students catch teachers using it on feedback without saying so — and why an honest, disclosed, assignment-by-assignment AI policy beats a blanket ban nobody actually follows. Key topics:
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Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell work with CILC, the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration, to help educators implement high-quality live virtual learning experiences across grade levels. Discover more at CILC.org. | |||
| #84 Why Is Teaching Online Still Not Part of Teacher Prep? with Michael Barbour | 06 Jul 2026 | 00:45:51 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, your hosts talk again with Michael Barbour — the most-cited researcher in K-12 online and distance learning — about what it would actually take to fix how teachers are prepared to teach online, and why thirty years of K-12 virtual learning hasn't produced that change yet. Drawing on his 2024 paper with Charles Hodges, Michael lays out six concrete steps — two focused on building the research base, four focused on teacher preparation programs — and explains why none of it happens without explicit mandates from states and accreditation bodies. The assumption under examination: that teacher prep programs will gradually incorporate online pedagogy on their own as demand grows. The evidence suggests they won't, for the same reason they never properly integrated technology in the first place. Together, the hosts and Michael explore the structural reasons teacher preparation programs can't make room for online pedagogy without a mandate, even when they want to. They dig into a counterintuitive finding from Newfoundland and Labrador — where students with K-12 online learning experience actually performed worse in college online courses than their peers, not because online experience is harmful, but because of how that particular program's heavy synchronous structure coddled students in ways that didn't transfer. They examine what the research actually shows about online learning and mental health (short version: the modality isn't the problem, and during the pandemic, logging into school may have been the most normal part of a child's day). And they work through the affordances and tradeoffs of synchronous versus asynchronous instruction — a framework any practitioner can apply immediately. Michael closes with the two big questions currently driving his research: where is the field of K-12 online learning thirty years in, and how much of what gets regulated in the US is driven by ideology rather than evidence? Key topics:
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Guest Bio: Michael Barbour Michael Barbour is widely cited as the most prolific researcher in K-12 online and distance learning. His work spans student success and persistence in virtual environments, teacher preparation for online instruction, and the governance and regulation of K-12 online programs across jurisdictions. He is currently focused on building a research agenda for the field and examining how political ideology shapes online learning policy in the United States compared to other countries. Barbour holds a faculty position and has previously held posts at Wayne State University, among others. About the Hosts: Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell work with CILC, the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration, to help educators implement high-quality live virtual learning experiences across grade levels. Discover more at CILC.org. | |||
| REWIND #51 From Stopgap to Standard: The Rise of Virtual Learning with DLAC's John Watson | 02 Mar 2026 | 00:48:28 | |
After attending DLAC — the Digital Learning Annual Conference — founded by John Watson, one thing is clear: the digital learning community doesn’t retreat under constraints. It builds. Yet, for some, the question persists: In this episode, John Watson joins us to unpack what the field actually learned from 2020 — and what it didn’t. One of the most persistent misconceptions, he argues, is the conflation of emergency remote instruction with purpose-built online learning. High-quality digital programs take months or years to design. What happened during the pandemic was an emergency pivot. Those are not interchangeable. More importantly, this conversation reframes the debate entirely. The future isn’t “online versus in-person.” It’s about expanding options. What We Explore
Throughout the conversation, a consistent theme emerges: Success should not be measured at the system level alone. It has to be measured at the level of individual students and the futures they’re building. Distance learning isn’t valuable because it’s digital. It’s valuable because it creates flexibility where rigidity used to exist. A Shift in Perspective Instead of asking whether distance learning has a future, perhaps the better question is: How do we design systems where digital tools expand human possibility — rather than merely digitize existing constraints?
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About the Hosts Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning, which designs structured live virtual and global learning experiences that expand student connection across classrooms and continents. Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell work with CILC to support educators in implementing high-quality digital learning experiences across grade levels. 🎧 Listen in for a grounded conversation about what’s hype, what’s durable, and why distance learning is less about modality — and more about access, design, and student futures. | |||
| #76 Building Florida Virtual School From Scratch with Julie Young | 16 Feb 2026 | 00:36:36 | |
Virtual learning didn’t start as a tech experiment. It started as a capacity and access solution. In this conversation, Julie Young traces the early design logic behind Florida Virtual School—what problems it was built to solve in the mid-1990s, and what that origin story still reveals about rigor, relationships, student identity, and how to design learning systems that scale. You’ll hear why the mission was never “deliver online,” but break the capacity ceiling—especially in places where schools couldn’t staff courses, couldn’t afford expansion, or literally didn’t have rooms to add sections. Key Ideas and Moments 1) “Virtual delivery was the means, not the mission.” Julie frames FLVS as a response to overcrowding, teacher shortages, and unequal course access—not a fascination with the internet. 2) The AP “try it with a safety net” design An early innovation: students could attempt AP coursework while having a built-in path back without public shame, sometimes even with the same teacher—reducing fear of failure and expanding who even tries advanced courses. 3) Why some students “become a different person” online Julie describes how virtual learning can enable students who were failing or labeled in traditional settings to succeed because:
4) Relationship-building as an operational system, not a vibe Early FLVS practice emphasized front-loading relationship-building: extended calls, deep parent conversations, learning student voice through writing, and using that baseline for both instruction and academic integrity (in an era before tools like Turnitin). 5) The parent’s role: support pace, don’t replace the teacher Julie is explicit that FLVS was designed with teachers responsible for learning, and parents as partners for pace, communication, and context—not as the primary instructor. 6) What online makes possible in K–12 ↔ college pathways From ASU Prep Digital, Julie shares how online models remove “physical campus” and age-related barriers in dual enrollment—making authentic college coursework possible even for unusually accelerated middle school students. 7) Why she wrote the book now Julie’s book aims to capture 30 years of policy, research, mistakes, and breakthroughs—the “drama and trauma” of building an industry that many newer educators only encountered through the distorted lens of 2020. Who This Episode Is For
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| #75 How Do You Know If Your Virtual Program Is High Quality? with Dr. Chris Harrington | 02 Feb 2026 | 00:41:35 | |
How do you know if your virtual program is actually high quality—without reducing it to a checklist? What you’ll get from this episode
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| #74 Online Readiness Is a Leadership Problem with Dr. Alexandra Salas | 19 Jan 2026 | 00:36:01 | |
Distance learning doesn’t fail because of tools—it falters when leadership, policy, and systems don’t align around student success. In this episode, Seth Fleischauer and Allyson Mitchell sit down with Dr. Alexandra Salas, founder and CEO of the Delmarva Digital Learning Association, to unpack what institutional readiness for digital learning actually requires. Drawing on her experience in higher education leadership, instructional design, and nonprofit systems change, Dr. Salas challenges the idea that digital learning is merely a delivery mode. Instead, she frames it as a connective infrastructure—one that can support access, belonging, wellness, and persistence when designed intentionally. The conversation moves beyond emergency remote learning to examine how organizations evaluate readiness, why frameworks matter, and what leaders must confront if digital learning is going to meaningfully support students rather than strain them. What This Episode Explores
Golden Moment Dr. Salas shares an early career story from her time as an instructional designer—partnering with faculty to bring courses like anthropology, chemistry, and Arabic online before large-scale platforms made it commonplace. The moment highlights a recurring theme of the episode: trust, curiosity, and collaboration matter more than tools when innovation involves real change. Why Distance Learning? In Dr. Salas’s words, distance learning isn’t about distance at all. It’s about access, inclusion, and possibility—especially for learners in rural or underserved communities. When aligned with strong leadership and intentional systems, digital learning becomes a bridge rather than a substitute. Mentioned Work & Resources
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| #73 Virtual International Collaborations Build Equity, Maturity, and Global Competence with SUNY COIL's Hope Windle | 05 Jan 2026 | 00:43:15 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Hope Windle, Director of SUNY COIL (Collaborative Online International Learning). Together they unpack what COIL actually is, how it works inside real courses, and why it gives all students—not just those who can study abroad—access to meaningful international collaboration. Drawing on years of experience connecting students across countries, languages, and disciplines, Hope explains why meaningful collaboration isn’t about content mastery alone, but about process, perspective, and growth. Pain Point Many educators believe that authentic global learning requires travel, study abroad programs, or well-funded international exchanges—opportunities that remain inaccessible to most students. Even when virtual connections exist, they are often superficial, short-lived, or focused on “learning about” others rather than learning with them. Solution SUNY COIL offers a project-based, faculty-driven model that embeds international collaboration directly into existing courses. Rather than one-off calls or presentations, students work in mixed international teams on shared problems—ranging from food insecurity and data visualization to journalism, astrophysics, and app design. Throughout the conversation, Hope shares:
Action Educators across K–12 and higher education can begin rethinking global learning by:
Why Distance Learning? For Hope, distance learning creates space for reflection, grace, and intentional response. By combining synchronous connection with asynchronous thinking time, virtual learning allows diverse voices, languages, and cultures to grow together—right now, not someday in the future. Episode Links
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| #72 Inside CILC — Field Ed, Roam From Home, and the Future of Virtual Learning | 22 Dec 2025 | 00:35:01 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth turns the spotlight to co-hosts Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell to explore the work they lead at the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC). For more than 30 years—long before the digital pivot of 2020—CILC has been connecting classrooms and communities to museums, zoos, aquariums, and cultural institutions through live, interactive virtual programs. But as demand grew, so did a problem: users loved the programming but struggled to find the right experience in a catalog of over 2,600 virtual field trips. To solve this, CILC redesigned everything around two clear pathways: Field Ed for PreK–12 classrooms and Rome From Home for adults and older adults. Each gives users a curated entry point rather than a maze of search results. And instead of forcing teachers or community coordinators to juggle logistics, CILC introduced bundles and fully hosted webinar series—options that reduce prep time to almost zero while improving the learner experience. What problems CILC kept hearing
What the redesigned model delivers
The episode also explores what makes a virtual field trip truly work. Tammy and Allyson break down pacing, interactivity every few minutes, accessible visuals, and the presenter “presence” that makes a screen feel like a shared space. For older adults, the structure shifts—more narrative, slower pacing, and extended Q&A—because live virtual learning often becomes a social anchor, not just a lesson. Moments from the field bring it home: students from Nicaragua to Minnesota solving a physics challenge together in Field Ed Live, or the older adult who said, “I never thought I’d see the Smithsonian again—and I did, from my chair.” These are the access and opportunity stories that define why distance learning matters. Why distance learning? Because it brings the world to people who might never reach it—and brings it back to those who thought they’d lost it. Episode Links
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| #71 Virtual Field Trips + Student Collaborations = Low-Lift, High-Impact Solutions for Global Competence | 08 Dec 2025 | 00:31:25 | |
In this special episode of Why Distance Learning, the tables turn—Seth Fleischauer steps into the guest seat as co-hosts Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell interview him about the purpose, design, and future of Global Learning Live, Banyan Global Learning’s next-generation experiential global learning program. They explore what authentic global learning really requires in today’s classrooms—and why the medium of live virtual learning matters more than ever. Most schools want to build cultural competence, empathy, and real-world communication skills, but:
The result? Global learning remains an aspiration, not a system. However, Banyan's Global Learning Live is structured, scalable model that connects students worldwide through live field trips, global collaborations, and authentic showcase moments. Seth shares how 20 years of partnership with Tsai Hsing School led to the creation of an experiential cycle that prepares students not only for academic success, but for a rapidly changing, interconnected world. What the program delivers:
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1. Bring the world into your classroom through personal live video. 2. Integrate short, purposeful global exchanges. 3. Join the Global Learning Live Spring Pilot.
4. Start planning for sustained global engagement. Episode Links
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| #70 How Virtual Clubs Transform School Culture with Pearson's Cindy Carbajal | 24 Nov 2025 | 00:38:11 | |
Educators often assume that clubs, activities, and school culture must happen in person—that building belonging in virtual learning is limited or even impossible. Many imagine distance learners as isolated kids behind screens, missing the social experiences that shape identity, leadership, and community. But what if that assumption is simply wrong? In this conversation, Cindy Carbajal, a 20-year veteran of Pearson Virtual Schools, shows us how vibrant, student-driven communities thrive online through thoughtful structure, flexible engagement pathways, and opportunities for real agency. Cindy oversees a global clubs and activities program serving 11,000+ students across time zones, grade levels, and cultural backgrounds. Her work demonstrates that: 1. Student-Centered Design Fuels Real Belonging
Cindy calls it “stealth learning”:
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1. Start with the student experience—not the content. Ask: Where can students lead? Where can they share? How can this be theirs?
Instead of a niche club for each interest, create umbrellas where kids can explore together.
Global reach, time-zone diversity, virtual volunteer opportunities, and student leadership that scales across schools—these are advantages brick-and-mortar can’t match.
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5. Track what matters. Attendance, satisfaction, enrollment, and student stories help shape future offerings. Episode Links
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| #69 Can You Feel Art Through A Screen? MFA Boston Says Yes (with Cassie Bride and Lauren Yockel) | 10 Nov 2025 | 00:34:54 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Tami Moehring, and Allyson Mitchell welcome Cassie Bride, Director of School Programs, and Lauren Yockel, School Programs Education Specialist at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston (MFA). Together, they explore how one of the nation’s most renowned cultural institutions is transforming museum education through live virtual programming—making world-class art accessible to students anywhere. Museums have long been seen as places you must visit in person to truly experience their magic. But how can educators bring the depth, texture, and storytelling of art to students who may never set foot in a gallery? Traditional outreach—slideshows, static images, or “loan boxes”—often fails to capture the atmosphere, intimacy, and discovery of the real museum experience. Cassie and Lauren share how the MFA Boston reimagined its approach by taking students inside the galleries through interactive live video sessions. Using simple technology—an iPad on a mobile tripod—they bring artworks, curators, and educators directly to classrooms. Students not only see art up close but also hear the sounds of visitors and experience the living energy of the museum. They discuss how this approach:
For educators and cultural organizations, the MFA’s model offers a powerful lesson: distance learning doesn’t replace the field trip—it multiplies it. Start small. Use simple, mobile setups. Focus on creating authentic connections rather than high-tech production. Whether you’re teaching art, science, or history, virtual access can spark awe, equity, and engagement in ways that complement, not compete with, in-person learning.
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| #68 The Future of Distance Learning: USDLA’s Pat Cassella on AI, Hybrid Teaching, and Access for All | 27 Oct 2025 | 00:33:01 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell and Tami Moehring welcome Pat Cassella—Executive Director of the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA), VP of Worldwide Sales at VDO360, and founder of ETC Video. Pat traces the evolution of video technology in education, healthcare, government, and corporate training—and offers bold predictions about what’s next. Why This Matters Educators are flooded with tools but lack training, workflows, and staffing to use them well—especially in hybrid settings where engaging in-person and remote learners simultaneously feels impossible. K-12 systems in particular face understaffing, turnover, and abandoned tech. How to Make It Work Pat argues for purpose-built technology aligned to teacher workflows and deliberate pedagogy for virtual/hybrid environments. The big shift: infrastructure is now easy—the work is pedagogical. He also highlights flexible learning models (including micro-credentialing) that expand choice for learners across K-12, higher ed, and the workforce. “You don’t want technology for the sake of technology. It has to have a purpose—and fit the teacher’s workflow.”“Without distance learning, you’re limiting student choices. Flexibility is what today’s learners demand.” Put It Into Practice
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| #83 Can Flexibility Hurt Online Learners? What Pacing Data Reveals with Kristen DeBruler | 22 Jun 2026 | 00:33:59 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, your hosts talk with Kristen DeBruler — Assistant Director of the Michigan Virtual Learning Research Institute — about what makes online learning work for K-12 students, and what quietly undermines it. Drawing on survey data from over a thousand virtual teachers and fresh findings on student and teacher AI perceptions, her work reveals where the conventional promises of online learning diverge from what the data actually shows. The episode centers on a tension that practitioners rarely name directly: the flexibility that makes online learning valuable for some students can work against those who are still developing the self-regulation skills to use it well. Together, the hosts and Kristen explore how a researcher inside a state virtual learning organization sets and pursues a research agenda — including the unusual advantage of having direct access to student data. They examine common failure modes in classroom-level research, particularly how vague research questions leave teachers vulnerable to the biases they're trying to surface. Kristen walks through her team's findings on the gap between how students and teachers define acceptable AI use, and why that ambiguity is already showing up in the classroom. The conversation turns to teacher feedback as the connective tissue of asynchronous online learning — and what the data shows about what makes it work and what makes it hollow. And Kristen makes a pointed case about applying adult learning research to K-12 populations: the data doesn't transfer as cleanly as the field sometimes assumes, and the consequences land on students who are still building the executive functioning skills that adult learners already have. Her pacing research is illustrative: students who cross unit boundaries — not just move around within one — end up with final grades 9.5 points lower on average, a gap large enough that teachers should treat it as a warning signal, not background noise. Key topics:
Kristen DeBruler is the Assistant Director of the Michigan Virtual Learning Research Institute, where she has spent more than 14 years studying K-12 online learning — including student pacing, teacher communication, mentor support, special populations, and AI use in virtual environments. Her research is oriented toward practitioners: she publishes findings in formats designed for teachers, administrators, and program leaders to act on, not just cite. She holds a PhD in Educational Psychology and Educational Technology from Michigan State University.
Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning and host of Why Distance Learning. Through Banyan, he designs live virtual programs that connect K-12 classrooms to global peers and expert facilitators — building the kind of structured, human-centered distance learning the podcast explores. See https://banyangloballearning.com/ Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell work with CILC, the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration, to help educators implement high-quality live virtual learning experiences across grade levels. Discover more at CILC.org. | |||
| #67 What Football Teaches Us About Character, Leadership, and Virtual Learning with Jerry Csaki | 13 Oct 2025 | 00:38:35 | |
Many people think of distance learning as impersonal—a screen separating students from real connection. But at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it’s doing the exact opposite. It’s bringing students face-to-face with legends, life lessons, and the values that make great teams—and great people. In this episode, Jerry Csaki, Senior Director of Youth, Education, and Leadership at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, shares how he’s turned virtual learning into a front-row seat to greatness. Through the award-winning Heart of a Hall of Famer series, students across nearly every state connect live with NFL icons to talk about character, integrity, and perseverance. What began as a local field trip program has become a global platform for teaching leadership and belonging. Jerry reveals how distance learning expands access to stories that inspire—stories that remind students that greatness isn’t about fame or stats, but about resilience, teamwork, and heart. Listeners will learn:
If you believe distance learning can only go so far, Jerry Csaki’s story will expand your definition of what’s possible when technology connects classrooms to character. Episode Links
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| #66 Kids Use Podcasting and Friendship to Thrive Online (with Homeschoolers Maddie and Ella) | 29 Sep 2025 | 00:38:18 | |
Many adults assume that kids only tolerate online learning—that it’s isolating, transactional, and never as “real” as learning in person. But what if students themselves told a different story? What if distance learning could be creative, inspiring, and a place to make authentic friendships? In this episode, we meet Maddie (11) and Ella (13), co-hosts of The Recess Rundown, a podcast created entirely by and for self-directed learners. What started as homeschooling and a love of writing, journaling, blogging, and gaming has grown into a vibrant collaboration fueled by Recess.gg, the online community where they found not only peers but also mentors and their closest friends. Through their podcast, they amplify the projects of other young creators, from coders and artists to bloggers and novelists—and in the process, they discover their own voice. Maddie and Ella remind us that kids don’t just consume digital culture—they shape it. They share what they’ve learned about podcasting, what inspires them from fellow students, and how distance learning has built their confidence and community. Listeners will learn:
If you’re a parent, educator, or school leader wondering whether online learning can truly spark joy, curiosity, and belonging, this episode will challenge your assumptions—and let Maddie and Ella show you what’s possible when kids lead. Episode Links
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| (Rewind) #41 BOLD Moves: How Virtual Schools Are Redefining Education in Florida with Mandy Perry | 15 Sep 2025 | 00:39:45 | |
In this episode of the Why Distance Learning? Podcast, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring revisit one of their most popular episodes as they welcome Mandy Perry, a virtual school principal and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. Mandy shares her timeless journey in virtual education, her leadership role in BOLD, and how virtual schools in Florida are evolving to meet the needs of students across the state. Key topics discussed include:
This episode offers valuable insights into the evolving world of virtual education, the importance of collaboration among educators, and how virtual schools can provide students with unique opportunities and skills for the future. For more insights and practical advice, tune into this episode and explore the work of BOLD and Pinellas Virtual School. Links to their resources are available in the show notes. About today’s guest: Mandy Perry is the principal of Pinellas Virtual School and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. She is a leader in virtual education advocacy at both the state and national levels, dedicated to improving and expanding virtual learning opportunities for students. Episode Links: Host Links:
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| #65 Turning Virtual Learning into a Multiplayer Experience with Ben Somers | 01 Sep 2025 | 00:40:49 | |
Many educators associate virtual learning with isolation, disengagement, and students passively staring at screens. But what if the opposite were possible? What if distance learning could be thrilling, social, even addictive—in all the right ways? In this episode, we meet Ben Somers, founder and CEO of Recess.gg, an online platform transforming virtual education into an e-sports-style, team-based experience where students show up because they want to. With live academic games, mentorship, and a thriving virtual economy, Recess builds belonging, identity, and motivation into every challenge. But behind the fun is a serious vision: empowering self-directed learners with the tools—and freedom—they need to thrive. Ben draws from deep experience scaling Synthesis (born from Elon Musk’s experimental school) and brings a philosophy rooted in Papert, Dewey, and Montessori to his product design. He argues that engagement is not just a tactic, but an ecosystem built on freedom, community, and purpose. Listeners will learn:
If you’re a virtual school leader, edtech entrepreneur, homeschool parent, or anyone wondering how to make distance learning work better, this episode will challenge your assumptions and show what’s possible when engagement is student-driven and purpose-aligned. Episode Links Host Links
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| #64 Teaching Kindergarten Online? Yes, It Works—with Joy, Props, & Puppets (and Nancy Grim!) | 18 Aug 2025 | 00:35:21 | |
Many educators (and parents) believe that teaching kindergarten online is impossible. Young children are assumed to lack the attention span, tech skills, or maturity to thrive in a virtual setting. During the pandemic, even seasoned teachers struggled to keep their youngest students engaged.
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If you’re an early elementary teacher, school leader, or curriculum designer wondering how to support younger learners online, Nancy’s practical strategies will spark ideas and shift your thinking. Share this episode with a colleague, try one new engagement prop in your next session, and remember: joy is a tool, not a luxury, in digital classrooms. Episode Links Host Links
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| #63 The Human Side of Systems Change (Part 2) with Dr. Tovah Sheldon | 04 Aug 2025 | 00:45:31 | |
Too often, educational change is approached with a top-down, impersonal strategy—especially in virtual settings. Leaders are handed new tools, frameworks, and mandates but given little space for reflection, values alignment, or the flexibility needed to make change stick. The result? Burnout, survival mode, and disjointed systems that don’t serve students or educators. In this episode, Dr. Tovah Sheldon—school design strategist at Michigan Virtual and leader of the Leadership Coaching for Innovation initiative—unpacks how true transformation begins with the adults in the system. With warmth, insight, and a deep coaching mindset, she guides us through what it really means to center leadership development around the human experience. From redefining change through “rugged flexibility” and allostasis, to bridging the gap between personal and organizational values, Dr. Sheldon makes the case for slower, deeper, more reflective innovation. She shares stories of golden moments, challenges us to pluralize transformation, and gives us a clear pathway toward leading with clarity, purpose, and empathy. If you’re leading innovation—especially in virtual or hybrid environments—listen in for insight on:
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| #62 The Human Side of Systems Change (Part 1) with Dr. Chris Harrington | 21 Jul 2025 | 00:34:55 | |
Too often, distance learning gets dismissed as fragmented or disjointed, seen as a patchwork of tech tools rather than a cohesive educational system. Teachers feel pulled in too many directions, and programs struggle to sustain impact beyond the novelty of going virtual.
If you’re building - or rebuilding - a distance learning program, listen in for insights on:
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| #61 CTE Thrives Online: High STEP's Amanda Bell Shows Us How | 07 Jul 2025 | 00:30:28 | |
Can hands-on career training truly happen online? Skeptics argue that virtual education falls short when it comes to preparing students for high-touch, high-stakes professions—especially in healthcare.
Discover how immersive technology can elevate CTE and make career exploration more equitable, accessible, and personalized. Amanda also offers practical insight into building community online, teaching empathy virtually, and using tech to strengthen—not replace—the human side of healthcare education. Episode Links:
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| #60 Live Gaming for Growth: Social‑Emotional Learning Through Play with CoLab's Alan Tang | 23 Jun 2025 | 00:38:31 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth Fleischauer, Tami Moehring, and Allyson Mitchell welcome Alan Tang, founder of Collaboration Laboratory, to explore the power of play as a core instructional strategy in live virtual learning. They dig into what happens when games aren’t the reward—but the curriculum itself. Alan shares how CoLab uses escape rooms, missions, and collaborative challenges to build communication, emotional intelligence, and strategic thinking for kids around the world. The conversation covers how CoLab builds safe, judgment-free cohorts that span cultures, how facilitators become coaches, and why giving students agency and space to fail leads to deeper learning. From “Elemental Escape” to avocado-themed risk challenges, this episode reveals a vibrant new model of education—where learning is playful, purposeful, and profoundly human. Key Topics Discussed:
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| #59 What Florida Gets Right About Virtual Schools with Desiré Mosser | 09 Jun 2025 | 00:39:11 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, your hosts sit down with Desiré Mosser, a veteran instructional coach supporting over 125 virtual educators at Pasco eSchool and Vice President of BOLD (Blended Online Learning Discovery of Florida). A former brick-and-mortar science teacher turned online education leader, Desiré brings over two decades of hands-on virtual teaching experience, systems thinking, and heartfelt coaching into a conversation that dives deep into what it really takes to make virtual schools thrive—not just for students, but for teachers too. The episode explores how Desiré transitioned into virtual learning out of necessity, only to become a cornerstone of educator support in Florida’s online education community. From dispelling myths about teacher isolation to building sustainable systems of care, Desiré shares stories, strategies, and moments of growth that challenge the notion that distance learning limits connection. Her experience reveals how personalized, human-centered leadership—and a dash of humor—can transform virtual teaching into a deeply rewarding career. Pain Point: Solution: Action:
These simple but powerful actions help foster longevity, well-being, and excellence in the virtual teaching profession. 🔗 Episode Links
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| #82 All Learning Is Social: Jered Borup on Social Presence in K-12 Online Learning (Part 2) | 08 Jun 2026 | 00:31:58 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, your hosts continue their conversation with Jered Borup — professor at George Mason University and one of the most-cited researchers in K-12 online learning — about what AI in education is actually doing to relationships, what social presence requires when "build a video lecture" can be done by a chatbot, and why teacher burnout is the real bottleneck the field doesn't want to talk about. Borup connects his earliest 2012 work on asynchronous video to his 2025 Open Praxis research on combining AI-generated text with human-created video, and argues that AI used to offload feedback erodes the very thing online learners need: the felt sense that the teacher is real and knows them. Together, the hosts and Jered explore the conflation of social media, video games, and ed tech in the parental imagination after the pandemic; how to use AI without replacing the relational core of teaching; why one-on-one asynchronous video may build social presence more reliably than synchronous Zoom classes; the DLAC Phase 2 research agenda Borup co-authored with Michael Barbour and Kristen DeBruler; the mental-health gap between teachers and other professionals with comparable education; and Borup's one-line answer to the show's title question — that personalization and Universal Design for Learning are easier to do online than off. This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation. Listen to Part 1 for the foundational ACE framework, the on-site mentor model, and the parent question.
Jered Borup is a professor in the Division of Learning Technologies at George Mason University and co-coordinator of the Learning Technologies in Schools graduate program. His research, grounded in six years of junior-high history teaching, focuses on K-12 online and blended learning: the support communities that surround a learner, the parental role in online education, and how generative AI can extend personalized support to historically underserved students. He earned his Ph.D. in Instructional Psychology and Technology from Brigham Young University and has been recognized as one of the top 2% most-cited researchers in his field.
Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning and host of Why Distance Learning. Through Banyan, he designs live virtual programs that connect K-12 classrooms to global peers and expert facilitators — building the kind of structured, human-centered distance learning the podcast explores. See https://banyangloballearning.com/ Allyson Mitchell works with CILC, the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration, to help educators implement high-quality live virtual learning experiences across grade levels. Discover more at CILC.org. | |||
| #58 Tiered Support in Virtual and Hybrid Learning with Dr. Lori Wiggins | 26 May 2025 | 00:31:32 | |
How can distance learning meet the vastly different needs of students who are disengaged, displaced, or underserved—and still deliver equity, engagement, and academic excellence? In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Dr. Lori Wiggins, principal of Pasco eSchool, shares how her team runs 12 distinct programs under one virtual roof using a tiered system of support. She walks us through how they combine asynchronous learning, live sessions, adaptive tools, and in-person days to respond to every learner’s academic and emotional needs. Lori emphasizes data-informed decisions, social presence, and the importance of building team capacity to identify and address gaps early and effectively.
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| #57 Digital PE for the Real World: Physical Wellness Meets Edtech with Joe Titus | 12 May 2025 | 00:43:11 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Joe Titus, founder and CEO of Hiveclass, to reimagine what physical education can look like in the digital age. They explore how Hiveclass brings inclusive, skill-based movement instruction to students who are often left out of traditional PE—whether due to cost, confidence, access, or classroom logistics. Joe shares how his platform breaks down barriers to participation by offering bite-sized video lessons across 19+ sports and activities, including dance, yoga, and tennis—many of which require no special equipment. Designed to meet national standards, Hiveclass supports both virtual and brick-and-mortar schools in delivering wellness education that’s engaging, equitable, and empowering for all learners. This episode challenges the myth that physical education can’t be done well online—and makes a compelling case for why it must be. Key Topics Discussed:
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| #56 How We Got Here: Three Stories That Fuel This Podcast | 28 Apr 2025 | 00:48:43 | |
In this special episode of Why Distance Learning, the hosts become the guests. Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring step out from behind the mic to share their personal journeys into distance learning, their current work in the field, and why this podcast exists. From museum basements to prairie dresses to viral Mets fandom, this episode dives into the stories that shaped their passion for virtual education. They discuss the unique mission of the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC) and Banyan Global Learning, the challenges and triumphs of distance learning, and the surprising golden moments that define their purpose. It’s a candid, insightful, and at times comedic conversation that reminds us why distance learning matters—and what’s possible when it’s done with care, creativity, and connection. Episode Highlights:
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| #55 Distance Learning as a Lifeline for Ukrainian Students with Yuliya Kosko | 14 Apr 2025 | 00:37:03 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Yuliya Kosko, founder of Svitlo Education, to explore how live virtual learning becomes a lifeline in the darkest of times. They discuss the founding of Svitlo School during the Russian invasion of Ukraine and how distance learning has supported nearly 2,000 Ukrainian students with free, high-quality instruction amidst trauma, displacement, and daily threats to safety. Yuliya shares how her all-volunteer team, spanning multiple continents, builds meaningful community and resilience through online education—even when students are logging in from bomb shelters. This powerful conversation makes the case that when done intentionally, virtual learning can create stability, connection, and even joy in crisis. Key Topics Discussed:
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| #54 Online Education That Outperforms Traditional Schools—Here’s How with Heather Rhodes | 31 Mar 2025 | 00:38:14 | |
This is a special crosspost episode of host Seth Fleischauer's other podcast, Make It Mindful: Insights for Global Learning. In this episode of Why Distance Learning?, host Seth Fleischauer welcomes Heather Rhodes, founder of Highgrove Education and former leader of Harrow School Online. Together, they explore how international online schools can foster academic excellence, cultural competence, and learner autonomy—challenging the perception that online learning lacks rigor, community, or real-world readiness. Heather shares how her journey began with a desire to support English learners beyond summer programs, and evolved into leading some of the most academically successful online schools in the UK. She explains how Highgrove Education builds a vibrant online culture, prioritizes independent learning, and prepares students not just for exams—but for adulthood. Key Topics Discussed: • Why international community building is at the heart of online learning • How online education reduces prejudice and creates a more inclusive environment • Practical ways to build belonging, including student-led clubs, house systems, and real-time feedback • The flipped classroom model and the secret to student agency and academic success • How conflict is addressed through cultural awareness and shared expectations • What kind of young adult emerges from this model—and why they thrive at university and beyond Guest Bio: Heather Rhodes is the founder of Highgrove Education, an academically rigorous international online school. With over a decade of experience in online education, she previously led Harrow School Online and continues to redefine what’s possible in virtual learning. Heather’s mission is to develop globally minded leaders through inclusive, high-impact education. Episode Links: 1. Highgrove Education | |||
| #53 Online School for Neurodivergent Kids: Insights from Gaia Learning with Kate Longworth | 17 Mar 2025 | 00:38:01 | |
Traditional classrooms can be overwhelming for neurodivergent students. Rigid schedules, sensory overload, and one-size-fits-all approaches leave many feeling anxious, disconnected, and unable to thrive. Parents often ask: Is online education a viable alternative? In this episode, we sit down with Kate Longworth, CEO and founder of Gaia Learning, a global online school designed for neurodivergent learners. Kate shares how personalized online learning can reduce stress, increase accessibility, and help students build the confidence they need to succeed—whether in virtual or in-person settings. Key takeaways include: ✔️ The misconception that distance learning isn’t suited for marginalized students—and why the reality is quite the opposite. ✔️ How Gaia Learning’s tiered approach helps neurodivergent students transition from disengagement to confidence. ✔️ Why emotional safety is the foundation of academic success, and how online learning can foster trust and connection. ✔️ Strategies for scaling personalized education while maintaining meaningful, individualized support. 🎯 Action Steps: • For educators: Consider how flexibility and interest-based learning can transform student engagement. • For parents: Explore whether hybrid or online models might provide a better fit for your child’s learning needs. • For school leaders: Rethink the role of online education as a complement to—not a replacement for—in-person learning. 🔗 Episode Links: 🎓 Learn more about Gaia Learning: GaiaLearning.co.uk 📖 Explore resources on neurodivergent learning and education accessibility. 🎧 Listen to past episodes at CILC.org/podcast. 🎤 Host Links: 🌍 CILC.org – Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources with Tami Moehring & Allyson Mitchell. 🎥 Banyan Global Learning – Bringing meaningful global learning experiences to students worldwide with Seth Fleischauer. 🔹 Why Distance Learning? Because it’s evolving, impactful, and here to stay. | |||
| #52 Can You Really Learn Music Online? Debunking the Myths of Virtual Music Education with Caleb Smith | 03 Mar 2025 | 00:31:45 | |
🎵 Can Music Be Taught Effectively Online? Exploring Distance Learning in the Arts Pain Point: Many believe that subjects like music require in-person instruction to be truly effective. Can students really learn to play an instrument, develop musicality, and experience meaningful arts education online? Solution: In this episode, Why Distance Learning? hosts welcome Caleb Smith, a professional musician and experienced online music educator. Caleb shares how virtual learning is breaking barriers, making music education accessible to students in remote communities, and fostering creativity in ways traditional classrooms cannot. He explains how online instruction differs from in-person teaching, how technology enhances musical immersion, and why local educators are key partners in virtual music programs. Key Takeaways: 🎸 Access Over Geography: Online music education connects students in isolated communities with world-class instruction. 🎼 Beyond the Notes: Music education online isn’t just about technique—it’s about inspiration, creativity, and cultural exchange. 📡 Technology as an Enabler: Innovations like OBS Studio, hybrid models, and latency-free platforms (like Gig Room) are redefining online music learning. 🤝 Empowering Educators: Effective online instruction isn’t just about students—it also supports local teachers in refining their craft. 🌎 Cultural Connection: Virtual learning expands students’ exposure to musical traditions, instruments, and styles from around the world. Action: Listen now to learn how distance learning is transforming music education and what educators can do to optimize virtual arts instruction. 🎧 Episode Links:
📌 Host Links: 1️⃣ Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell 2️⃣ Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world. 🎙️ If you found this episode valuable, please rate, review, and share Why Distance Learning? with your network! | |||
| #51 From Stopgap to Standard: The Rise of Virtual Learning with DLAC's John Watson | 17 Feb 2025 | 00:46:05 | |
Is distance learning just a pandemic-era stopgap, or does it have lasting potential in education? Virtual learning skeptics often assume that online education was a temporary fix—an emergency response rather than a viable long-term model. Many educators and policymakers still equate today’s online learning with the chaotic transition of 2020, failing to recognize how far the field has come. In this episode, John Watson, founder and CEO of DLAC and the Digital Learning Annual Conference, joins us to challenge these misconceptions. As one of the leading voices in digital education, John has spent decades tracking the evolution of online learning, from early adoption to the cutting-edge innovations shaping its future. Key Insights & Takeaways: ✅ Distance Learning Is Not a Pandemic Experiment—It’s a Proven Model.
✅ The Reality: Virtual Learning Expands, Not Replaces, Student Options.
✅ The Future of Education Is Hybrid, Not Either-Or.
✅ Sustainability and Lifelong Learning Matter More Than Ever.
Actionable Takeaway: Educators and policymakers must shift their focus from debating if distance learning has a future to optimizing its role in expanding educational access and personalization. The key isn’t replacing in-person learning but designing flexible, high-quality options that meet students’ diverse needs. 🔗 Episode Links:
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| #50 Virtual Students Feel Disconnected? Fix It with These Strategies from Dr. Breauna Wall | 03 Feb 2025 | 00:37:56 | |
🚨 “Distance learning isn’t the problem—bad implementation is.” 🚨 Too many virtual students feel disconnected and unseen, struggling in a system that wasn’t designed with them in mind. Educators want to create engaging, inclusive online spaces—but without the right tools, distance learning can feel like a barrier rather than a bridge. 🎧 In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring sit down with Dr. Breauna Wall, founder of Collaborative Ed Solutions, to tackle one of the biggest challenges in virtual education: how to build an emotional climate that keeps students engaged—especially those with diverse learning needs. Key Takeaways: ✅ Why emotional climate is the #1 factor in student success—before grades, curriculum, or even technology. ✅ How online learning can be a game-changer for students with disabilities and marginalized learners. ✅ The difference between access and true inclusion—why simply providing a device isn’t enough. ✅ Proven strategies to foster engagement and connection in any virtual classroom. ✅ Golden moment: How one father’s frustration turned into a powerful breakthrough in student support. 💡 PROBLEM → SOLUTION → ACTION If your virtual students feel like they’re just a name on a roster, this episode will change the way you think about online learning. Discover practical strategies to build community, engagement, and real human connection—even through a screen. About Today’s Guest: Dr. Breauna Wall is the founder and CEO of Collaborative Ed Solutions, a Johns Hopkins University teaching associate, and an expert in special education and educational leadership. With over a decade of experience, she focuses on empowering educators and fostering inclusive, accessible learning environments. Her upcoming book on supporting special educators will be released in 2025.
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Research Consulted: 1. Golden, Alexandrea and Emily N Srisarajivakul, Amanda J Hasselle, Rory A Pfund, and Jerica Knox. "What was a gap is now a chasm: Remote schooling, the digital divide, and educational inequities resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic." [PubMed Central] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10259090/ 2. Pressly, J.P. "Online Learning Can Help Minimize Racism and Ableism In and Out of the Classroom." [Edtech Magazine] https://edtechmagazine.com/higher/article/2022/05/online-learning-can-help-minimize-racism-and-ableism-and-out-classroom 3. Spievack, Natalie and Megan Gallagher. "For Students of Color, Remote Learning Environments Pose Multiple Challenges." [Urban Institute] https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/students-color-remote-learning-environments-pose-multiple-challenges | |||
| #49 From Isolation to Connection: The Key to Virtual School Success with Alicia Hughes | 20 Jan 2025 | 00:36:52 | |
🚨 “We don’t care about grades or completion right now. We want every student to feel a connection.” 🚨 Too many virtual schools struggle with student disengagement, teacher burnout, and the overwhelming challenge of building culture in an online environment. Leaders and educators are left wondering—Can we really create a strong, connected school community without a physical space? 🎧 In this episode of Why Distance Learning?, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring sit down with Alicia Hughes, founder of Sparking Up Leadership and former principal of South Carolina’s largest virtual public school. Alicia shares the hard-earned strategies she used to turn an isolated, disengaged school community into one that thrived—with 98% staff satisfaction and a 90% graduation rate. Key Takeaways: ✅ Culture drives everything—Why strong relationships matter more than test scores in virtual schools. ✅ The power of small norms—How something as simple as a cameras-on policy transformed school engagement. ✅ Why most virtual schools fail at community-building—And what Alicia did differently to ensure students felt seen and supported. ✅ How to get staff buy-in—Strategies for inspiring teachers to model connection and engagement. ✅ Technology is a tool, not a solution—Why the right mindset matters more than the latest edtech trends. 💡 PROBLEM → SOLUTION → ACTION: If your virtual school is struggling with low engagement, staff turnover, or a disconnected student experience, this episode gives you practical, tested strategies for creating a thriving school culture—even when everyone is behind a screen. Guest Bio: Alicia Hughes is the founder of Sparking Up Leadership, where she helps organizations thrive in virtual spaces through leadership excellence and team dynamics. With over 20 years of experience in education, Alicia has successfully led initiatives to create strong cultures in both physical and virtual settings. She is the author of Sparking Up Leadership: Igniting Your Influence with Sparkle and Sunshine and is passionate about relationships, positivity, and empowering others. Episode Links:
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| #81 School and Personal Communities Must Work Together to Make Online Learning Engaging with Jered Borup (Part 1) | 26 May 2026 | 00:31:58 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, your hosts talk with Jered Borup — professor at George Mason University, co-creator of the Academic Communities of Engagement framework, and one of the most-cited researchers in K-12 online learning — about why student engagement isn't a property of the student or a skill the teacher unlocks, and why most online programs are leaving the work undone. Borup's framework distinguishes the course community (teachers, designers, mentors) from the personal community (parents, family, on-site adults) and argues engagement is what those two produce together. The assumption on the table: that "more parental involvement" is what fixes online learning — when in fact, untrained involvement, his research shows, can hurt about as often as it helps. Together, the hosts and Jered explore the ACE framework's two communities, the on-site mentor model from Mountain Heights Academy and Michigan's mentor mandate, what it actually takes to teach a student how to learn online, the equity gap in who gets meaningful support, and where parents fit (and don't). Along the way: the Michigan administrator who tapped someone on the shoulder and said "you're now Sally's mentor," the parent with only a high-school diploma who turned out to be one of the 12 most successful mentors in the study, and the parent who confessed to Jered that she does her kid's online discussion-board posts because they're "busy work." This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation.
Jered Borup is a professor in the Division of Learning Technologies at George Mason University and co-coordinator of the Learning Technologies in Schools graduate program. His research, grounded in six years of junior-high history teaching, focuses on K-12 online and blended learning: the support communities that surround a learner, the parental role in online education, and how generative AI can extend personalized support to historically underserved students. He earned his Ph.D. in Instructional Psychology and Technology from Brigham Young University and has been recognized as one of the top 2% most-cited researchers in his field.
Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning and host of Why Distance Learning. Through Banyan, he designs live virtual programs that connect K-12 classrooms to global peers and expert facilitators — building the kind of structured, human-centered distance learning the podcast explores. See https://banyangloballearning.com/ Allyson Mitchell works with CILC, the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration, to help educators implement high-quality live virtual learning experiences across grade levels. Discover more at CILC.org. | |||
| #48 Why Distance Learning Works for Environmental Education with Kasey Galylord-Opalewski | 06 Jan 2025 | 00:42:13 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome environmental science educator and distance learning pioneer, Kasey Gaylord-Opalewski, to explore the intersection of marine science, education, and the transformative potential of live virtual learning. Kasey shares her journey from North Dakota to becoming a leading voice in environmental education, highlighting how distance learning can ignite curiosity and inspire action, even from thousands of miles away. Key Topics Discussed:
• Kasey’s approach to interpreting complex scientific research into engaging, digestible content for diverse audiences, from teens to lifelong learners. • Insights from Kasey’s work at Earth Echo International, including programs empowering youth to protect and restore the ocean planet. • Reflections on co-authoring Defining Interactive Virtual Learning and Museum Education: A Shared Perspective and its ongoing relevance in framing effective distance learning practices. • The challenges and opportunities of teaching live over video and how passion, adaptability, and technical skills create transformative experiences. Guest Bio: Kasey Gaylord-Opalewski is a marine science educator with over 20 years of experience in designing interactive virtual learning programs. As a leader at Earth Echo International, Kasey empowers youth and educators to take meaningful action for ocean conservation. She is also an accomplished author, co-writing a seminal article on defining distance learning practices. Host Links:
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| #47 Virtual School for Gen Alpha Digital Nomads with Noam Gerstein | 23 Dec 2024 | 00:40:38 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning?, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Noam Gerstein, CEO of the Bina School and a leading expert in precision education. Noam shares her journey of creating a global, digitally native school that reimagines how education serves young learners, blending emotional connection, cultural diversity, and innovative uses of live virtual learning. The episode explores Bina School’s unique approach to play-based, personalized learning for students aged 4 to 12, with a focus on fostering global awareness and nurturing emotionally safe, collaborative learning environments. Key Topics Discussed:
Guest Bio: Noam Gerstein is the CEO of the Bina School, a pioneer in precision education and a thought leader in the field. With a background in history, technology, and social innovation, Noam has spent years researching global education systems and building solutions to meet the needs of Gen Alpha learners. She is a frequent speaker at education conferences and a passionate advocate for blending cultural diversity with cutting-edge technology. Host Links:
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| #46 Making Music Education Fun, Accessible, and Personalized with Patrick Boylan | 09 Dec 2024 | 00:39:26 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Patrick Boylan, co-founder of Museflow, a groundbreaking music education platform described as the "Duolingo of music education." Patrick shares his journey of rethinking traditional music lessons, combining gamification, flow state learning, and AI-driven personalization to make music learning engaging, accessible, and effective. Key Topics Discussed:
Guest Bio: Patrick Boylan is a multi-instrumentalist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Museflow, a music edtech platform that reinvents the way people learn instruments. A lover of musical theater and passionate advocate for accessible music education, Patrick’s innovative approach bridges the gap between tradition and technology. Host Bios:
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| #45 Student Engagement and Other Best Practices with DL Veteran Liz Huson of Erie 2 BOCES | 25 Nov 2024 | 00:42:10 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Liz Huson, Distance Learning Specialist at Erie 2 BOCES, for a dynamic discussion on the transformative power of virtual education. Liz shares how her passion for student engagement, differentiated instruction, and equity informs her role in curating live virtual experiences that break down classroom walls and spark curiosity in students across New York State. This episode highlights how distance learning creates meaningful connections, challenges traditional assumptions, and fosters empathy among students. Key Topics Discussed:
Guest Bio: Liz Huson is a Distance Learning Specialist at Erie 2 BOCES, where she supports educators across 22 school districts in leveraging live virtual learning experiences to enrich curricula, engage students, and provide equitable access to transformative educational opportunities. A former middle school English teacher, Liz brings her passion for differentiation and creative teaching strategies to her current role, ensuring that students and teachers alike benefit from the possibilities of distance learning. Host Bio: Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring are dedicated to exploring the question, "Why distance learning?" through interviews with educators, content providers, and field experts who are transforming virtual education. Together, they highlight innovative uses of technology to enhance learning, build cultural competence, and connect classrooms around the world. Episode Links:
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| #44 The Science of Learning: How Fit Learning Drives Student Success with Kimberly Berens | 11 Nov 2024 | 00:55:50 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning?, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring are joined by Dr. Kimberly Berens, founder of Fit Learning and CEO of Fit Learning Online, to discuss the critical role of behavior science in education. Dr. Berens shares her journey from establishing Fit Learning in a small closet to growing it into a global network of centers that use science-based methods to produce dramatic academic gains for students in just 40 hours of training. The conversation delves into why many traditional educational practices don’t align with the science of learning, as well as how Fit Learning’s approach to measurable skills, immediate feedback, and fluency training can revolutionize student outcomes. Dr. Berens also addresses the adaptation of her program to online learning, emphasizing accessibility and the importance of skill mastery in a virtual environment. Key Topics Discussed:
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| #43 Earwigs Are Very Good Mothers and the De-Ickification of Invertebrates with the Butterfly Pavilion's Jillian Luciow | 28 Oct 2024 | 00:33:14 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Jillian Luciow from the Butterfly Pavilion in Denver (Jillian from the Pavilion!). They explore how live virtual learning programs bring invertebrates like butterflies, tarantulas, and crabs into classrooms through engaging, curriculum-aligned content. Key Topics Discussed:
Tune in to this episode to discover how virtual field trips and hands-on experiences with invertebrates can transform learning. Explore more about Butterfly Pavilion's offerings at butterflies.org. About the Guest: Jillian Luciow is the virtual and school programs coordinator at the Butterfly Pavilion, where she develops and leads engaging educational content. With a background in history and public engagement, she brings a unique perspective to connecting students with the natural world through live virtual learning. Host Links:
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| #42 Exploring WWII History in Real Time with Maddie Roach | 14 Oct 2024 | 00:30:37 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Maddie Roach, the Distance Learning Specialist at the National World War II Museum. Maddie shares her experiences building engaging virtual programs that connect learners to history in unique ways, discusses how the museum adapted post-Katrina, and explores how distance learning makes education accessible across the globe. Key Topics Discussed:
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| #41 BOLD Moves: How Virtual Schools Are Redefining Education in Florida with Mandy Perry | 30 Sep 2024 | 00:37:46 | |
In this episode of the Why Distance Learning? Podcast, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Mandy Perry, a virtual school principal and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. Mandy shares her journey in virtual education, her leadership role in BOLD, and how virtual schools in Florida are evolving to meet the needs of students across the state. Key topics discussed include:
This episode offers valuable insights into the evolving world of virtual education, the importance of collaboration among educators, and how virtual schools can provide students with unique opportunities and skills for the future. For more insights and practical advice, tune into this episode and explore the work of BOLD and Pinellas Virtual School. Links to their resources are available in the show notes. About today’s guest: Mandy Perry is the principal of Pinellas Virtual School and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. She is a leader in virtual education advocacy at both the state and national levels, dedicated to improving and expanding virtual learning opportunities for students. Episode Links: Host Links:
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| #40 Podcasting Is Distance Learning with the EdSurge Podcast's Jeff Young | 16 Sep 2024 | 00:41:01 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Jeff Young, editor, reporter, and host of the EdSurge podcast, to discuss the intersection of technology, education, and podcasting. Jeff shares his experiences covering education for over 20 years and reflects on how podcasting has emerged as a powerful tool for professional development, storytelling, and education journalism. Key topics discussed include:
This episode provides valuable insights into the evolving world of education, podcasting, and distance learning, offering educators and listeners a thoughtful perspective on the future of learning. Chapters 00:00 02:56 08:49 17:50 25:01 31:46 38:03
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| #39 Civics, Collaboration, and Ms. Opal Lee: A Constitution Day Special | 02 Sep 2024 | 00:42:35 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome three special guests: Julie Silverbrook from the National Constitution Center, Jocelyn Kho from the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery, and Andrea (Ang) Reidell from the Leonore Annenberg Institute for Civics. Together, they discuss an exciting upcoming event for Constitution Day that brings together these prestigious organizations to engage students in a unique virtual learning experience centered around the U.S. Constitution and the inspiring story of Ms. Opal Lee. Key topics discussed include:
This episode provides an in-depth look at how educational organizations can collaborate to create meaningful, engaging learning experiences for students, especially on important topics like the Constitution and civic responsibility.
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| #80 Parents: the Co-Teachers No One Trained with Bobbie Sandberg | 11 May 2026 | 00:49:31 | |
In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth and Allyson speak with Bobbie Sandberg — an educational researcher who recently completed her PhD in instructional psychology and technology at BYU — about what's actually happening in the household when a K-12 student learns online, and why most programs aren't designed for the answer. Bobbie's research, grounded in Jered Borup's Academic Communities of Engagement framework, reframes engagement as a three-dimensional challenge — cognitive, behavioral, and affective — that K-12 students can't sustain alone. When the school is online, the support system shifts to whoever is home. And most programs haven't reckoned with what that means. Together, Seth, Allyson, and Bobbie explore how parents naturally divide the labor of support, why more involvement isn't the same as better involvement, and what happens when families arrive at virtual school not by choice but because nothing else worked. Bobbie also shares what she's learned about the critical first weeks of enrollment, why explicit role invitations from programs make a surprisingly big difference, and the underrated power of affective engagement — including a story about refugee mothers whose aspirational storytelling did what tutoring couldn't. Key topics discussed: Links & Resources:
Guest Bio: About the Hosts: Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell work with CILC, the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration, to help educators implement high-quality live virtual learning experiences across grade levels. Discover more at CILC.org. | |||
| #38 Global Collaboration for Social Good with Dr. Jennifer Williams of Take Action Global | 19 Aug 2024 | 00:39:48 | |
About today’s guest Dr. Jennifer Williams is the founder of Teach SDGs and co-founder of the nonprofit organization Take Action Global. She is a thought leader in using educational technology to promote global perspectives and social good. As an educator and author of Teach Boldly: Using EdTech for Social Good, Dr. Williams champions the role of technology in fostering equity, diversity, and social action in education. Connect with Dr. Williams on X (formerly Twitter) at @JenWilliamsEDU. In this episode, Seth, Allyson, Tami and Dr. Williams discuss:
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1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell. | |||
| #37 Why Music Teachers Struggle with Virtual Learning—And the Tech That Finally Fixes It with Terry Lowry | 05 Aug 2024 | 00:38:33 | |
“Geography should not keep us from learning and creating together.” Music education thrives on real-time collaboration—but for years, online instruction has struggled with one major roadblock: latency. For music teachers, conductors, and performers, even a slight delay makes synchronous playing nearly impossible. What if that problem disappeared completely? In this episode, Why Distance Learning hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell and Tami Moehring welcome Terry Lowry, a composer, conductor, and founder of Musical Overture, to discuss how Gig Room, his breakthrough low-latency music platform, is revolutionizing virtual music collaboration. Terry shares the hidden challenges of online music performance, the technical breakthroughs behind real-time distance collaboration, and how tools like Gig Room are not just replicating in-person learning—but enhancing it. And now, this technology is paving the way for something even bigger: Stars Align, an ambitious global project aiming to connect a billion students in real-time music performance. Imagine students around the world—led by renowned musicians, astronauts in space, and global changemakers—joining together for a live, synchronized song that transcends borders and brings the world together through music. Key Topics Discussed:
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Guest Bio: Terry Lowry is a Steinway Artist, conductor, and composer with over 200 works. He is the host of the Tone Poem podcast, the conductor of the Carroll Symphony Orchestra, and the co-founder/CEO of Musical Overture. His work in low-latency music technology has helped musicians worldwide perform together in real-time—no matter where they are. Host Links: 1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell. 2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world. Subscribe to Why Distance Learning for more engaging interviews and insights into the evolving landscape of virtual education. Available on all major podcast platforms. Visit Be Podcast Network to learn more about the network and discover other educational podcasts. | |||
| #36 Education Everywhere: The Success Story of Virtual Excursions Australia | 22 Jul 2024 | 00:40:47 | |
In this exciting episode of "Why Distance Learning," we delve into the fascinating world of Virtual Excursions Australia with co-founders Karen Player and Ben Newsome. Their stories highlight the transformative power of digital technologies in education, providing insight into how virtual excursions can bridge gaps in access and enrich learning for students across diverse geographies. Karen and Ben share the origin story of Virtual Excursions Australia, born from a casual conversation at a tech conference and fueled by a shared passion for enhancing educational outreach through technology. They discuss the challenges and triumphs of their journey, emphasizing the critical role of technology in facilitating impactful learning experiences outside traditional classroom settings. Throughout the episode, both guests reflect on the dramatic shifts in educational practices prompted by the COVID-19 pandemic, noting the surge in demand for virtual learning solutions. They explore how this shift has not only persisted but evolved, with more educators embracing digital tools to complement and extend their teaching. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the mechanics of running successful virtual programs, including the importance of interactive content, technical reliability, and engaging presentation skills. The episode also delves into the specific strategies for enhancing participant engagement and ensuring educational content is both accessible and impactful. This episode is a testament to the innovative spirit that drives educational technology forward, making it a must-listen for educators and technology enthusiasts alike.
2. Seth Fleischauer's Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com | |||
| #35 LIVE from ISTE: Kate Neff and the Denver Museum of Nature & Science | 08 Jul 2024 | 00:40:31 | |
In this most special of special episodes, Seth, Tami, and Allyson record LIVE at the ISTE conference in Denver, Colorado. As an official session at the conference, your podcast hosts - along with 40 other conference participants - were hosted by Kate Neff, the virtual Programs Coordinator at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. The episode unfolds in two parts, beginning with an insightful discussion on Kate’s innovative distance learning programs at the museum. The live recording at ISTE follows, capturing the enthusiasm of over 40 attendees who explored the museum's advanced distance learning facilities. Kate delves into how the museum bridges the gap between scientific curiosity and educational accessibility through virtual programs. The attendees experienced firsthand the museum’s green screen studios and interacted with artifacts that enhance learning beyond the classroom walls. This episode not only highlights the seamless integration of technology in education but also exemplifies how virtual platforms can extend learning horizons, connecting students nationwide with unique scientific resources. The vibrant interaction at the museum underscored the boundless possibilities of distance learning, making this session a significant milestone for the podcast and its mission to showcase innovative educational strategies.
Host Links: 2. Seth Fleischauer's Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com | |||