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Stumbling Blocks: How Great Leaders Are Made
Jonathan Block
Fréquence : 1 épisode/10j. Total Éps: 18

Their resume tells you what they achieved.
Here, they'll tell you when they stumbled and how they survived.
We all know the LinkedIn highlight reel: the IPOs, the awards, and the perfect PR stories. But if you are actually in the arena leading a team, navigating a crisis, and feeling the weight of responsibility, you know the truth:
The path forward is paved with stumbling blocks.
Welcome to Stumbling Blocks: How Great Leaders are Made, the podcast that explores the authentic, messy journey to leadership.
I’m Jonathan Block. I ask great leaders to take us back to the moments that don't make it to Instagram:
• The day they got laid off.
• The crisis that almost broke them.
• The impossible decision they made with no time for alternatives.
From Admirals hiring enemy planes to save a mission, to Fortune 500 CEOs navigating personal tragedies while running billion-dollar companies, to Harvard Professors who are the world's experts but didn't get the promotion they expected...
join me to uncover the resilience, grit, and practical lessons that forge great leaders.
This podcast is designed for leaders and up-and-coming leaders who need real-world examples of what gritty, authentic leadership looks like and practical tools to add to their skillset. Not AI slop.
Real stories. Authentic leaders. Welcome to The Stumble.
Episodes drop every Thursday.
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Oscar Munoz (Pt 2): How I Inked Union Contracts; Hired a Rival & Listened at Scale
Saison 1 · Épisode 9
jeudi 15 janvier 2026 • Durée 34:07
When Oscar Munoz stepped in as CEO of United Airlines, he didn't head for the executive suite. He headed for a Houston hangar at 2:00 AM to jump on a picnic table and listen to 500 angry aircraft mechanics.
In part two of this deep-dive conversation, Oscar reveals why he threw out the "business school rule book" to save an airline with a broken spirit. We discuss:
- The Power of the Listening Tour: Why he told Wall Street "I don't know" and went to talk to the people who handle the bags, pour the coffee, and fly the planes.
- The 3 Ds: How he diagnosed a culture that was disenfranchised, disillusioned, and disengaged. And what he did about it.
- Hiring Your Rival: The calculated risk of bringing in Scott Kirby from American Airlines and why true leaders start planning their exit on their first day.
- The Sara Nelson Breakthrough: How a story about a $500 check and a "Siberian" meeting room ended a five-year union stalemate in just 10 weeks.
Oscar concludes with a challenge for every leader: the "Common Denominator" math equation that forces each of us to take a hard look in the mirror.
Oscar's Book: Turnaround Time
https://www.amazon.com/Turnaround-Time-Uniting-Employees-Friendly/dp/0063284286
#Leadership #Culture #UnitedAirlines #CEO #Transparency #Trust #Listening #EmployeeRelations #Union #ChangeManagement #Turnaround
Oscar Munoz, United Airlines CEO: Why It's Never too Late to do the Right Thing (Pt 1)
Saison 1 · Épisode 8
jeudi 8 janvier 2026 • Durée 42:07
The viral video that changed aviation—and the CEO who broke the rules to fix it.
On April 9, 2017, United Airlines faced the world’s first truly global viral crisis when a passenger, Dr. David Dao, was forcibly dragged off a flight in Chicago. The internet exploded, calls for resignation mounted, and the airline’s initial response—calling the incident a "re-accommodation"—only poured gas on the fire.
In this episode of Stumbling Blocks, I sit down with former United CEO Oscar Munoz to take you inside the war room during the company’s darkest hours.
Oscar pulls back the curtain on the disaster, revealing:
- The "Insider" Reality: Why the facts of the incident were far more complex than the video showed.
- The Advice Trap: How legal fears and corporate mumbo-jumbo led to one of the worst apologies in corporate history.
- The Turning Point: The spiritual moment in the middle of the night—inspired by his grandmother—that convinced Oscar to stop listening to the experts and throw away the script.
- The Gamble: Why he threw away his prepared talking points on Good Morning America to take full blame on live TV.
Special Feature: This episode features real-time breaking news audio from 2017, immersing you in the crisis exactly as it unfolded.
Note: This is Part 1 of a 2-part conversation.
- Next Week: We explore the turnaround, the massive union negotiations, and the "Day 1" surprises.
- Follow the show now so you don’t miss the conclusion.
Links:
- Oscar's Book, Turnaround Time:
https://www.amazon.com/Turnaround-Time-Uniting-Employees-Friendly/dp/0063284286 - United Airlines: United.com
Credits:
ABC Nightly News with David Muir:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdWe6I3hBxk
Good Morning America:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90jSUe_vdhM&t=32s
CBS Evening News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyHu76Ofp2Y
CNBC
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/04/11/united-airlines-faces-social-media-backlash-in-china.html
Questions? Ideas? Shoot me a note:
Jonathan@BlockLeadershipGroup.com
Doug Conant, Campbell's Soup CEO: Why I Wrote 30,000 Thank You Notes + How I Recovered from a Layoff
Saison 1 · Épisode 7
jeudi 18 décembre 2025 • Durée 36:07
If your team is disengaged, cynical, or burnt out—Doug Conant has been there before. As CEO of Campbell's Soup, he inherited a culture that consultants called "Swamp Water."
But by putting honoring people at the center of his leadership dashboard, Doug turned the company around, both in terms of employee engagement and also in terms of financial performance.
In this episode, the former CEO of Campbell’s Soup reveals the brutal reality of leadership. He opens up about being fired at 32 and going home to a "very large mortgage" with no plan. He talks about what it took to bounce back and become CEO 17 years later.
We deconstruct his specific turnaround playbook:
- The "Swamp Water" Problem: Leading by giving your people chances to "Live, Love, Learn, and Leave a Legacy"
- The 30,000 Note Strategy: Doug wrote 10-20 handwritten notes every single day for a decade. We break down exactly why, how, and what the impact was.
- The "TouchPoint" Tactic: How to turn a 2-minute hallway conversation into a loyalty-building moment.
Resources Mentioned:
- The Blueprint: 6 Practical Steps to Lift Your Leadership to New Heights – Amazon Link
- TouchPoints: Creating Powerful Leadership Connections – Amazon Link
- [00:00] The Cold Open: "My career felt as if it was over in a snap..."
- [01:05] The Intro: From fired to Fortune 500 turnaround artist.
- [02:47] The "Noon" Deadline: The brutal details of the day Doug lost his job.
- [05:40] "Swamp Water": Measuring the toxic culture at Campbell's (and the 4 L's Framework).
- [07:56] The 30,000 Notes: Writing 20 notes a day in the back of a car for a decade.
- [12:41] The Only Way Out is In: Why you cannot lead until you know your own life story.
- [20:10] The CEO Bubble: Why nobody tells the CEO the truth (and how to fix it).
- [23:52] The ROI of Kindness: Why high-engagement cultures are 23% more profitable.
- [31:37] The "TouchPoint" Method: How to lead by listening in 2-minute increments.
- [35:32] Next Week: The CEO who had a heart transplant while leading an airline.
Pete Proimos, AP Emissions CEO: Why I Decided to Share my Diagnosis (Pt 2)
vendredi 12 décembre 2025 • Durée 31:21
Pete shares why he decided to tell the world his secret, what he did after finding what broke his heart, and what he'll do with the rest of his life after selling his company, AP Emissions Technology, to Berkshire Hathaway.
He discusses how the Filotimo Foundation serves people with Cystic Fibrosis, what he would say to his 19 year old self, and giving back more than the disease will take
Links: December 14, 2025 Lung Run https://filotimofoundation.org/lung-run-2025/
Filotimo Foundation:
https://filotimofoundation.org/
Pete's Full ABC News Interview on ABC 11Together
Filotimo Foundation Lung Run - ABC Interview
Keywords Cystic Fibrosis, Family Business, Philanthropy, Health Journey, Immigrant Story, Personal Growth, Advocacy, Nonprofit, Adoption Support, Life Expectancy Takeaways, Adoption, Infertility, Lung Run, ABC News Raleigh NC, Berkshire Hathaway, AP Emissions Technology, Mergers, Acquisitions, M&A, Legacy, death sentence, secret
Pete Proimos, AP Emissions CEO: "Find what breaks your heart and refuse to look away" (Pt 1)
Saison 1 · Épisode 5
jeudi 11 décembre 2025 • Durée 27:42
Pete shares his remarkable journey from being diagnosed with cystic fibrosis, to hiding the disease as a CEO, to selling to Warren Buffett, to finding what broke his heart and refusing to look away.
He discusses his family's immigration story, the evolution of their business, the challenges he faced growing up with a chronic illness, and the time his mom threatened to break a social worker's legs.
Don't miss Part 2.
Links: December 14, 2025 Lung Run https://filotimofoundation.org/lung-run-2025/
Filotimo Foundation:
https://filotimofoundation.org/
Pete's Full ABC News Interview on ABC 11Together
https://youtu.be/OwIr7_f9a9I
Keywords
Cystic Fibrosis, Family Business, Philanthropy, Health Journey, Immigrant Story, Personal Growth, Advocacy, Nonprofit, Adoption Support, Life Expectancy
Takeaways, Adoption, Infertility, Lung Run, ABC News Raleigh NC, ABC News, Blooper
Harvard's Sandra Sucher: How to Apologize
Saison 1 · Épisode 4
jeudi 4 décembre 2025 • Durée 42:05
In this conversation, Sandra Sucher, a professor at Harvard Business School and expert on trust, shares her unique journey from growing up in Detroit to teaching at Harvard. She discusses the importance of apologies in repairing trust, the nuances of moral leadership, and the challenges of navigating career paths.
Through personal anecdotes and research-driven insights, Sandra emphasizes the significance of acknowledging responsibility, understanding the impact of actions, and the complexities of restoring trust in both personal and professional relationships.
Takeaways
- Apologizing is a process that requires acknowledging responsibility, explaining the "why" (without being defensive!) and making an offer of repair.
- Trust can be regained but not fully restored to its original state.
- Moral leadership involves making intentional choices and understanding consequences.
- Career challenges are common, and taking charge of your own path is essential.
- Understanding the difference between intent and impact is crucial in trust-building.
- The process of making hard choices strengthens moral character over time.
- Restoring trust is like mending a translucent vase; cracks remain visible.
Chapters
00:00 The Importance of Apologies in Business
14:27 Sandra's Journey: From Detroit to Harvard
18:58 Navigating Career Transitions
24:32 Moral Leadership and Missed Opportunities
33:52 Restoring Trust: Can It Be Regained?
38:31 Legacy and Impact: A Life Well Spent
Links:
Sandra's Personal Website
Sandra Sucher - Trust Researcher
Amazon: "The Power of Trust"
Amazon.com: The Power of Trust: How Companies Build It, Lose It, Regain It: 9781541756670: Sucher, Sandra J., Gupta, Shalene: Books
Amazon: "The Moral Leader"
Amazon.com: The Moral Leader: Challenges, Tools and Insights: 9780415400640: Sucher, Sandra J.: Books
Research on Effective Apologies
An Exploration of the Structure of Effective Apologies - Lewicki - 2016 - Negotiation and Conflict Management Research - Wiley Online Library
Keywords
trust, apology, moral leadership, career challenges, Harvard, Sandra Sucher, business ethics, organizational behavior, personal growth, leadership lessons
TV's Mark Farkas: What I learned in the East Wing (When I produced a White House Documentary)
mercredi 19 novembre 2025 • Durée 27:30
We’ve all seen the White House from the outside. But what's it really like on the inside? Especially the East Wing?
Mark Farkas knows. As the producer of the first-ever HD documentary on the White House, he spent 9 months filming in rooms most people will never see. The "stumbling block" was navigating the immense security and hidden protocols of the most secure building on Earth.
Mark gives us an unprecedented virtual tour, from the private movie theater to the official White House Chocolate Shop. He offers behind the scenes anecdotes of the First Lady and the President. This is the human side of the People's House.
Listen for these "insider" stories:
- The tense moment the Secret Service almost shut down filming on the Truman Balcony.
- What it was really like to interview President and Mrs. Bush in their private residence.
- The secrets of the (now-demolished) East Wing.
Links to Mark's documentary are below.
The White House Art and Architecture
Admiral Mark Harnitchek, Director of DoD Logistics: How I Solved the Puzzle of Pakistan
vendredi 14 novembre 2025 • Durée 01:25:57
What does it take to lead when the stumbling block is a Category 5 hurricane, a massive earthquake, or two global wars?
Welcome to a masterclass in crisis leadership. Vice Admiral Mark Harnitchek (Retired) is one of the few people on Earth who truly knows.
He served on nuclear-armed submarines, commanded the $46 billion Defense Logistics Agency, and was the military's "boots on the ground" leader for the US response to Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Sandy, and the 2010 Haiti earthquake.
In this gripping conversation, VADM Harnitchek gives Jonathan an unfiltered look at making impossible decisions under unimaginable pressure, and how to build a team that can handle anything.
In this episode, you will learn:
- The #1 leadership lesson learned from the silent service of a nuclear submarine.
- How he managed the overwhelming logistics of two global wars.
- The lessons-learned from Hurricane Katrina that came in handy during Superstorm Sandy.
- How to lead with empathy and humanity...even in the toughest circumstances.
Vice Admiral Harnitchek's Biography
Charles Green, Creator of The Trust Equation: Why Selfishness is the Ultimate Stumbling Block
Saison 1 · Épisode 1
jeudi 30 octobre 2025 • Durée 31:11
What's the one thing that will destroy a team, a company, or a career faster than anything else?
According to Charlie Green, creator of the Trust Equation, the answer is simple: self-orientation. It’s the single biggest "stumbling block" to effective leadership.
In this episode, Charlie joins Jonathan to dismantle the idea that "if you can't measure it, you can't manage it." He makes a powerful case for why our ego is the enemy of trust, and how a relentless focus on the "human" side of business is the only real path to success.
In this episode, you will learn:
- The four components of the Trust Equation (and the one that divides all the others).
- Why being "unselfish" is a concrete, strategic advantage, not just a soft skill.
- How to spot self-orientation in yourself and your team—and what to do about it.
Links to Charlie's Work:
Understanding The Trust Equation | Trusted Advisor









