Spiritual Dope – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Welcome back, spiritual dope! It's been a while since our last episode, but I'm here, Brandon Handley, ready to dive into some thought-provoking content just for you. But first, let's set the record straight - your well-being is our top priority. Spiritual Dope is still going strong, hosting a treasure trove of interviews and discussions with individuals who have embarked on their spiritual journeys. What makes our podcast unique is that we approach spirituality through the lens of integrating it into our daily lives. Trust me, you won't find another podcast quite like this. 

Today, we're exploring the idea of awakening to yourself - growing into your spiritual being and realizing the vastness of your spiritual body beyond just your physical form. It's about creating a new model for living and doing so intentionally. Many people wait until they hit rock bottom before making this shift, but why not choose to awaken sooner? It's like proactive wellness - focusing on mental health and well-being to prevent falling apart down the road.

We've been taught to hold it all together, to suppress and repress our emotions, but that's not the path to true happiness. What if you could learn to find joy and contentment in your current circumstances? That's the shift we're discussing today. We'll delve into the misconception that happiness has to look a certain way, driven by media and marketing. The truth is, happiness already exists within us, waiting to be realized. And hey, even an old beat-up car can bring just as much happiness as a shiny new one!

Join me as I share personal stories and insights, discussing how embracing our true selves and acknowledging our experiences can lead to genuine happiness. We'll explore the interconnectedness of all living beings and the energy that binds us together. Get ready for an episode that will uplift your spirits and challenge your perception of happiness.

So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this spiritual dope together!

Welcome to another episode of Spiritual Dope, where we explore all things spiritual and delve into the creation process. I'm your host, Brandon Handley. In today's episode, we'll discuss the concept of trusting the creation process and the power of intentional creation. From cooking a delicious meal to trying out new recipes, we'll explore how focusing on the desired outcome and aligning our intentions can lead to a fulfilling creation experience. Join me as we uncover the beauty in chaos and the importance of designing and organizing our creations. Let's dive in and discover the magic of the creation process. Stay tuned for an enlightening conversation that will inspire you on your own creative journey. Welcome to Spiritual Dope: The Creation Process.

Troy and Brandon are talking about the power of breath extension in their lives, and how it makes them feel so connected to the big man upstairs.

And let's be real, who doesn't want to feel connected to God?

But here's the thing, folks, manifestation is just a fancy new age word for prayer.

It's all the same damn thing.

So if you're out there trying to manifest your dream life, just know that you're really just praying for it.

It's mind-blowing.

So go ahead and check it out, and you'll be like, "f*ck yeah, this is some good shit."

Connect with Troy over at: https://troyhadeed.com/

- Troy: When we create space in our life to actually quiet in mind and be with the breath, that space transcends into our life. He says it's important for listeners to set time aside to be with themselves and their breath. Troy: For it to be loving and holistic, quality time and intimacy is essential.

- The only thing that can tame your mind is your breath. We aren't often in relationship with the mind, so we're often a puppet in mind. If we can cultivate a relationship to mind, we can reprogram our conditioning. How do we make sure we're working from a place of love and not as complete robots?

- How did you find yourself fulfilling your purpose? You've been doing this yoga practice for 15 years. How have you been able to find yourself as being successful? By following your passion, your bliss, et cetera.

- When we talk about purpose, we think of a larger dream or a larger vision for our lives. But to make that dream and vision a reality, you have to be in your purpose in each and every moment. If you get overly obsessed with that larger dream, you're going to miss your purpose.

In this podcast episode, Brandon Handley from Spiritual Dope reveals how Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) can transform your life in more ways than one. You will learn how BJJ can help you develop resilience, humility, and curiosity by exposing yourself to different challenges and situations. You will also discover how BJJ can improve your mind, body, and spirit by enhancing your discipline, focus, energy, community, and spirituality. You will also find out how BJJ relates to other practices such as spiritual coaching and breathwork that aim to improve your well-being and awareness. This is a valuable podcast for anyone who wants to grow beyond their current limitations and potential through BJJ.

TL;DR: Everyone has their own struggles and challenges, no matter their size and success. 

Ryan Michler, a military man with a large following, recently shared his struggles with alcohol and divorce, which surprised many of his followers.

We learn to be aware of the impact our actions have on our family, as well as be willing to adjust our behavior if it's having an adverse effect. 

He also learned from his own experience with Adderall to be aware of the impact of substances on his family. 

Practical action items: be conscious of the impact of your actions on your family, be willing to adjust your behavior if needed, and be mindful of the impact of substances on your family.

The takeaway from this podcast is that everyone, even famous people, has their own issues and struggles to face. We can't always live up to the standards set by others, and should instead set our own standards and live by our own code. We have to be able to recognize when we are in alignment and when things feel right and know that it's okay if we don't reach others' expectations.

Welcome to another exciting episode of our podcast, where we explore spirituality and personal growth with industry experts. In today's episode, we are thrilled to have an enlightening conversation with Brandon Handley and Joshua Bloom. They discuss the importance of embracing one's spiritual identity, integrating spirituality into everyday life, and understanding quantum energy healing.

Joshua Bloom is a renowned expert in the field of spirituality and quantum healing. With his vast experience, he has helped countless individuals unlock their potential and achieve personal growth through spirituality. You can find Joshua online through his website at https://www.quantumenergycenter.tv/ and on social media platforms such as Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

Join us for this insightful conversation and embark on a journey to deepen your spiritual growth and discover new ways to overcome life's challenges. Listen in and let us know your thoughts in the comments below!

Intro Guy 0:00
Your journey has been an interesting one up to hear you've questioned so much more than those around you. You've even questioned yourself as to how you could have grown into these thoughts. Am I crazy? When did I begin to think differently? Why do people in general appear so limited in their thought process? Rest assured, you are not alone. The world is slowly waking up to what you already know inside yet can't quite verbalize. Welcome to the spiritual dough podcast, the show that answers the questions you never even knew to ask, but knew the answers to questions about you this world the people in it? Most importantly, how do I proceed? Now moving forward? We don't even have all the answers, but we sure do love living in the question. Time for another head of spiritual day with your host Brandon Handley. Let's get right into today's episode.

Brandon Handley 0:43
One Hey, there's spiritual dope I'm on here today with number one best selling author Joshua bloom, he's the author of the ultimate answer is inside. Creator of quantum energy transformation, mastery of the quantum shift and founder of quantum energy center LLC, as the internationally acclaimed trusted authority on quantum transformation number one best selling author and the executive producer of the ultimate answer is inside movie with upcoming companion book. And the creator of quantum energy transformation. Josas sold Joshua's sole purpose and passion is to empower and pass and Intuit is to unlock and own their authentic power and turn their potential into lasting paradigm shifts. Josh was so great to have you on as we were just talking before we got going here with this has been there's been in motion for a while. So so glad we can finally get together in person.

Joshua Bloom 1:37
Yeah, thank you for having me. I'm excited. Absolutely. So Josh,

Brandon Handley 1:41
I usually like to start these with the whole idea, right? That, look, you and I were like universal conduits for just like the energy, right? It's just flows through us. And the people listening to our conversation, right? They're gonna hear something that you and I aren't even finally even talking about, right? You and I will have our conversation, and somebody tuning in is going to hear something else entirely. There's gonna be a message that's coming through you being delivered by the universe right now to that person's tune. And what's that message person today, Josh? Joshua?

Joshua Bloom 2:16
Well, that anything is possible that we have the ability to create change at the quantum level, to allow ourselves to, in a sense, upgrade or up level ourselves to a new possibility that maybe we haven't even discovered yet or thought about yet. And allowing ourselves to reach potentials that we never thought we'd be able to do during our lifetime.

Brandon Handley 2:43
I love that. I love that. And I think that those people who go through certain shifts, they find that for themselves. And my guess is that you've you've kind of got you've got a process and how we get there, and how can people reach that in a systematic way? When you say Quantum? So what do you mean, because I think a lot of people hear quantum and they don't know what to do with it.

Joshua Bloom 3:06
I totally agree with you. People use the word Quantum. And they actually use it in a way that doesn't actually mean what quantum means. I'm glad you asked the question, because a lot of people are putting the word quantum on to things because it either sounds cool, or it's gonna make the money. But the truth of the matter is that quantum means cellular. So that means when you're talking about quantum healing, or what I call quantum energy transformation, that means we are making a shift making a change at the cellular level of the body. And we're doing so at the smallest part of us, that has consciousness. And when you make that shift, when you make a change, at that level, it upgrades or up levels, your identity. So when I work with a client, for example, they might come in as one person and leave at the next level of who they get to be. Yeah,

Brandon Handley 4:01
yeah, that sounds great. I would like that machine or that capability, right? Like, let's walk in. Let's walk in here. I'm gonna need a 2.0. As I walk out the door, the better improved version of myself, as we were talking a little bit to, you know, your best selling author, congratulations. I mean, it's it's no small feat to put a good book together. I think anybody can put a book together and just slam it out there. Right. It's another thing to get, you know, be well received and actually help people with it. You mentioned too, that you did some work with us, Bruce Lipton had endorsed your book is, is he a part of your story on how you got to where you are today? Give me a little insight there.

Joshua Bloom 4:46
Well, he's definitely part of my story in the sense that I was having a lot of anxiety, so much so that most people would have been on medication for like years. I was having so much anxiety that I would, it would be fearful for me to even like walk outside and walk around my house outside. At times, it was like, you know, 21 years ago. And when I was in this place, it was it was really difficult to determine how was I going to get out of this place? Is this going to be the way that I was gonna live my life for the rest of my life? Or was this going to be something that I could shift and change should actually never believe that I was going to be able to change this, I thought, actually, this was it, this was the way that I was going to be. And I was gonna either have to deal with it, or try to get help. So I worked on learning, that was my main mode for moving myself forward, I learned so much, I learned about 20 different healing modalities, most of which I became certified in. And still I couldn't shift my issues. And it was very, very difficult, until I started to work at a Hypnosis Center. And I Well, the reason I went to the Hypnosis Center in the first place was for them to help me but I had learned so much that I had surpassed what they were doing in the hypnosis session with me that I realized they were not going to be able to help me at all. But I thought, well, maybe I can help them. So I started to work for the Hypnosis Center. And I started to do sessions. And I was getting these really amazing changes in people that I was seeing right before my eyes. So somebody would come in with anxiety, and all of a sudden, their anxiety would be gone. I'd go home with mine, but they would leave without theirs. And I'm like, wow, I must know something because I mean, something is happening. And I would see people that would come in with things like fibromyalgia, migraine, headaches, pain, all sorts of things like this. And they would be leaving without their issues. And of course, it was really difficult for me, because I was going home with my issues every night, saying, I must, this must be a disconnect here. I'm obviously getting it for other people, but I'm not getting it for me. So after a while, I started to realize I could use the same understanding the same quantum understanding that that I learned from Bruce Lipton, because that's one of the that's one of the learnings I got was with Bruce Lipton taught me so many powerful things that led me to understand how to make those changes with those people. And I understood the science behind it all, I never would have been able to create a quantum energy transformation or create the changes that I've helped people do so profoundly. Yeah, I think the biggest one was me. I mean, I was my most definitely my most difficult client.

Brandon Handley 7:51
So it's interesting, right? I always make this line about the being the giver and the gifts, the gift and the giver type of thing. And so you were able to give this gift to everybody else, but you weren't able to give it to yourself or like I'm just thinking like, again, we talked about being conduits of energy for like everybody else, you were able to receive it and deliver it for others. But you didn't have an awareness of how do I apply this to myself? Yeah,

Joshua Bloom 8:22
well, I was able to help them shift the energy at the cellular level of the body to create that change. And I taught them exactly how to do it. And they were able to do it. But when I did it for myself, I was too disconnected. So So here's the thing, Dr. Bruce Lipton says that if you are in growth, you can transform and heal. And if you're in, if you're in protection, you can't.

Brandon Handley 8:50
So the anxiety was asking as a barrier, the anxiety,

Joshua Bloom 8:53
he put me in protection, like 24/7. Even now, when I work with other people, I was able to help them get into growth, not the problem. But getting myself into growth, I needed another Joshua to

Brandon Handley 9:09
kind of like tickling yourself, right? Like you can't, it's really hard to tickle yourself. There's no Joshua, like, I got you.

Joshua Bloom 9:16
But I finally did, I finally learned how to get into my body, how to connect with myself, how to move that energy at the cellular level of the body for myself, which was much harder than helping other people by the way. I did it. And I released all of those things. But I definitely say that Bruce Lipton helped me understand the science behind the cellular transformation. So that it let me create such amazing shifts for people.

Brandon Handley 9:46
Not as powerful and I think that I think that's really important. There's always the it's almost always easier to help others with their problems and what they're going through and because you're Though you're, you're not attached to their shit, right? You don't have their emotional, you don't have their baggage, right? So you can be like, Look, I actually see you as you actually are. And here's the reflection of who you actually are like, Oh, well, thank you so much. I can go now I'm good, I think right? And but looking at yourself in a mirror, you see the same thing like all the time you never really see the truth of who you are.

Joshua Bloom 10:24
Yeah, when we get in our own way, really easy.

Brandon Handley 10:27
Yeah. So you, you're just anxious character. You finally figure out like how to heal yourself. And you're taking the show on the road? Right? Where's where's the I guess transition where you said, Alright. I can roll out of this Hypnosis Center. We've helped each other out well enough from here. I'm good to strike out on my own. Tell a little bit about that story. Yeah,

Joshua Bloom 10:55
well, I was working for hypnosis. And I was making lots of money. I was helping people tremendously. I was still holding on to a lot of my issues. I had made it a little bit better, but not really at that time. And so that I that I had this argument with the lady that owned the center. I mean, never had an argument before. But she got into this energy that I didn't like, and I didn't think she was being fair. And I look at it now as the universe was saying, Joshua, you need to get out of this place needed to open up your own center. Sure. So but I didn't see it. At that exact moment. I thought, you know, this lady is just being unfair to me what's going on? And then, when I decided to leave, which was after that argument, I didn't have anywhere to go, I went home.

Brandon Handley 11:49
It was gonna take my thing and leave now.

Joshua Bloom 11:52
Yeah, exactly. So I took my stuff with me. And I had a lot of stuff there. And I took my, you know, modality they created with me to take everything with me. And I went home. And I looked for a place in which I could rent to see if I could rent some space. But I had no luck with that I couldn't I couldn't find a place in which I could rent that I could afford. I mean, I didn't have a whole lot of money. Because I was living on the money that I was that I was I was getting. And I was living in an expensive area. So it was costing a bit of much money at the time. So what ended up happening was one of my clients called me, and I see wanted to see me and I said, Well, I can't see you there because I just left. So I don't know what we're going to do. I don't really have a location to see the one. And I said, I've been looking for one for the last couple of days, and I couldn't find a location at all for anything. They're all too expensive. She says, I'll call you back in 20 minutes and hung up the phone. And I'm like, What is she talking about? So she called me back in 20 minutes. And she says, I want you to meet me at this address. And I'm like, what, why? And she says just made me there. I said, Okay, so I get in my car. And you know, now I'm anxious. Because my client for I don't know why.

Brandon Handley 13:14
She picked out right, yeah. And we

Joshua Bloom 13:17
get out of the car at at this location. And she says they have they have three rooms for rent for a price you can afford. And I'm like, really? So I went in and I spoke to the owner, and of the building. And he said, Yeah, we have three rooms for rent and a waiting room. They had like an office. And then they had a room where I could do classes. This is like crazy. Because I've called everybody searched everywhere did everything. And all of a sudden, here it was

Brandon Handley 13:45
what you know, I mean, I know that you'd mentioned to, you know, studying a lot of things that turned out to be BS, right? What I found in this space, law of attraction, energy work, whatever. All this effort that we put out tends to get in our way. It's like, hey, universe, I don't trust you, even though you've done the rest out there to handle my shit here. So I'm just gonna go ahead and do it without you because you're not helping me. And then as soon as like, we're doing it. We're frantic, right? We don't know what I can't find a place. What am I gonna do? I can't afford where I'm at, right? This is you right? You're in a scenario. You're like, you know what universe? I fucking I give up right? Like, what I'm not gonna deal with it right now. Client now we can't get together. It couldn't possibly happen. Right? Couldn't couldn't possibly, and she's like, it's happening. And the University says, Why don't you trust me?

Joshua Bloom 14:45
Yeah, and the universe provides so I took that I took that place and I didn't know who was gonna pay the next month but I figured I was just going to be able to just do this thing. I put the deposit down and I paid for it. And then I needed furniture. So I didn't have any purchase, I thought I could rent furniture that that was like, oh, yeah, I just rent it no big deal. So, I don't know if you've ever rented furniture, but it's really, really expensive. And you think, Oh, it was gonna be like $10 a month, isn't it like hundreds and hundreds of dollars a month. And so I got really stuck. And I went to a meeting to help somebody else that was going to actually meet with a weight loss clinic, who asked me to come and give them advice about their clinic and what I could help them with their with their business. So I went over there, and I walked in, and all of a sudden, I got this intuition that I should ask them if they have any furniture, which I thought was really a weird question to ask somebody, because Hi, do you have any Berger, you know? Sure. I did. And she said, I can help you with that. And then I'm looking to see behind me to see that she's talking to somebody, like, like, that was a real answer. And she said, Yeah, I can help you with that. So I came with a van to her house, and had all the furniture I needed for my, from my from, from my office. And so I got, you know, a bunch of friends. And we, we loaded up the truck. And I said, Well, what do I owe you? She says nothing. Like, if I unlocked my legs, you know, sure,

Brandon Handley 16:16
ya know,

Joshua Bloom 16:17
you've you came to help me that day. And then I've helped you. So

Brandon Handley 16:22
I love it. And I would have an interpretation of it. But I'd love to hear kind of like, you know, as you've looked back, what, what are you feeling? What is what's the universe telling you at this point? Oh, well, everything

Joshua Bloom 16:32
was falling into alignment. So it was, it was, you know, the universe had me have this argument with this woman, and who owned the Hypnosis Center. And I left for that reason. And then, you know, I mean, I don't have anything negative against this woman that at the center, we never had an argument before that, that moment, but it got me it got me to take action. So I knew it was, you know, a spirit in the universe, saying, This is what you need to do. And then everything fell into place. I got all the furniture I needed. I got the clients just came, everything just started to happen automatically. For me. I didn't have to work very hard. When we are in alignment. That's how it looks.

Brandon Handley 17:13
Yeah, it is, right. I mean, I got, you know, little little tingles and goosebumps because it's so true. And it's so it's so hard to impart that was somebody that's not even looking down that alley. Right? So somebody's not looking down that alley at all, Joshua, like, what do you start? Where do you start to direct them?

Joshua Bloom 17:36
Well, I direct them inward, we tend to look outside of ourselves to find our answers. And of course, my book is called the ultimate answer is inside. Instead of instead of us looking inside, we tend to look at, you know, reach searching for someone for help, or we tend to look outside of us for an answer. And truthfully, the answers are all inside of us. So when we point the arrow back at ourselves, and we say, Okay, I'm gonna now look and see what's inside here, and connect with ourselves, we start to have situations where we become in alignment like I did, where everything just start to happen, and all this goodness start to happen without a lot of effort on my part, I'm gonna walk in, again, intuition here. Do you have furniture kind of questions? Sure this happens automatically. These are the kinds of things that happen when we're in alignment. So how do you get into alignment? Well, first, you got to be connected to yourself when you're disconnected from yourself. We have all sorts of issues. First of all, anxiety like I had, some people may have depression, some people have both. Some people might have the experience of being scattered or, or not really knowing what's going on in their life. And they feel disconnected. No add today is an epidemic that is really not necessary, because we've all been taught to be out of body. So if you are out of body or in your head, you are running at fast energy. Anybody would be scattered for and from that position of energy. Sure. So it's interesting because I grew up all of my life thinking that I had Add Error. The actually, I'm a little bit older than that. So they didn't have add as a as a as a diagnosis when I was growing up in third grade. When I was diagnosed. When I was diagnosed, they they came they came at me and said you have a neurological impairment. Yeah. What's that today? That's called ADD? Sure. So that was pretty, pretty crazy to realize. I have this thing called add. And so I looked at add as a problem. And also, I had what they call dyslexia, so Difficulty and reading, which I have neither those things today. But when I had them in third grade, and fourth grade and fifth grade, until I got into high school, I was, you know, the broken kid, I was the kid who sure couldn't do anything. I was the kid who was having all this trouble until my. So what was my junior year, which became my senior year, I decided that I wasn't going to live that way anymore. And I call that turning over a new leaf. It took me several times of turning that leaf before the prep really turned, but in my in my junior year, and I became very, very organized. And I became so organized that I helped other students become organized also. And if there was a valedictorian kind of thing in my school, which there wasn't, I would have been that because they did ask me to speak at my graduation. And I went to two graduations, I went to the one my junior here, which was was, you know, I wasn't a senior yet, but I was going to college at that point. And then in my senior year, which I would put I didn't spend at school, I went to I was in college, they had they come back and speak again, also there. So that was that was a really amazing experience to realize that I could shift it all. Knowing that I don't have to live what people tell me who I am, I could decide who I choose to be.

Brandon Handley 21:27
That Listen, that's a powerful story. And I think to discover that at such a young age. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a that's a multiplayer, right there. You know, I don't think listen for myself, I don't think I started, you know, going back and looking at my stories, and started to retell them to myself in a way that was actually supportive of who I am. Right. And my life 40. Right. So what could I have done with that other 20 years? Look, I had fun during that 20 years, I'm not gonna lie. Like, what would it have been like, if I actually supported myself internally, right, with a marvelous internal scaffolding to bring to the world?

Joshua Bloom 22:11
Yeah, that's the really, when I was 25, around that, that age, I learned that I didn't have to have these disabilities, the Add, and the dyslexia. I remember I was in a class, because remember, I took all these classes and stuff. I was in a class, and one of the students questioned me having a disability at all. And I was I was like, you know, so trying to prove it? No, no, you don't understand, you know, I had all this trouble. And I'm

Brandon Handley 22:49
arguing for your limitations, right? Yeah.

Joshua Bloom 22:51
I'm fighting for this, you know, it's really fighting for it. And as I was fighting for it, she was looking at me and says, You thing, but what have you been able to do, that other people can't do. And so I started to list them. I learned how to ski in two weeks and became an instructor, I taught myself how to play the keyboard, and I created albums for kids and, and adults and played my own music and, and produce my own music and did all this without any training at all. And then there are several other things that I've done, including creating quantum energy transformation and, and other things like this. And so she's she opened up the door there for me to look at myself, and to say, well, that doesn't sound like a learning disability. Sounds like more of an ability. And it just depends on how you choose to look at it. And she changed my life. And I realized in that moment, that I was going to do the same thing for other people that I was going to help them change their life. And using quantum energy transformation, I was able to shift all of this, I no longer experience migraine headaches, which I used to have, I don't have anxiety like I did before, I don't have the Deficit Disorder, or the or the dyslexia. So all of that's gone. And the power of that is we do get to choose who we who we get today.

Brandon Handley 24:15
So let's talk about the power of choice, right? Like a lot of people think that that's like a dinner thing, right? Like, Oh, I get steak and potatoes, you get chicken, that's the choice I make in life. That's, you know, I choose to do this thing in life. Like, you know, recognizing a conscious choice, right? Let's talk just to talk a little bit about the power of choice and somebody's life and, and what you mean by that.

Joshua Bloom 24:40
So when we think about choice, it's what we choose to do. However, the way that I like to look at choices at the identity level, who do I choose to be? So it's a little bit different. So I can choose choices like you were saying like a menu, or I can choose was to become someone greater than I am today. And how that looks, you know, when we look at you look at quantum quantum as the science of possibility. So when we look at the possibility of who I choose to be, can can look many different ways. You know, even in my experience of helping people today, I evolve all the time I evolve every day, from day to day, I am no longer the identity I was the day before I shift consciously and unconsciously, to become more and more of who, who I am. And I'm very authentic with my, with my students and with my clients, and I share, you know, all my stories where I fell on my face several times, and, and also how I overcame falling on my face several times as well, you know, the power of choice is really about who you choose to become. And when we take that into the quantum field, it really becomes amplified. So we tend to look at who we don't like that we are. Sure, we tend to look at that. And then whatever you focus on is what you get. So if you keep looking at yourself, and you keep looking and seeing that you don't like what you see or don't like what you feel or don't like what's going on in your life, and you feel stuck? Well, that's because our focus is hyper focused on being stuck. So in the quantum field, what we do is we get into the body, and we feel that stuck, we release that stuck, and then we focus, and we focus on a new possibility. Who else could I be instead of this anxious person that I used to be with attention deficit disorder, with anxiety and so forth? Right? Sure.

Brandon Handley 26:51
Yeah. Let's, I think people might get tripped up on, you know, being greater than I am today. Right, the word greater seems to trigger people for greatness, right? What do you know who, you know, who might be great, right?

Joshua Bloom 27:07
Huh? Yeah, I can do that be triggering.

Brandon Handley 27:11
So, you know, what do you mean by like, you know, be greater than I am today. And I, you know, I think I was stressed too, like, when we think of the quantum field, anything is possible. And that's actually been shown, you know, scientifically, right, you know, you the possibilities, all the possibilities exist at once. Yeah, which one? Do you choose? To call forth? Kind of thing? Yeah, exactly. Right. You know, what are some of like, again, like, what is a first day student gonna learn from you?

Joshua Bloom 27:50
A first day student is going to learn how to reconnect with themselves, how to get into their body, and how to stay there. Because we have habits of whoever we are at that moment. So most of us are in our head. And we're thinking, we're overthinking we're hyper focusing on the wrong things all the time. And then we get stuck in those patterns. And then someone comes along and says, Hey, you know, you shouldn't do that. And it's like, yeah, but I've been doing it for like, for so many years. And how do you stop doing that?

Brandon Handley 28:23
I'm really good at this.

Joshua Bloom 28:26
Exactly. So how we stop our habits, and the things that plague us, is by reconnecting with ourselves, and moving the energy at the cellular level of the body to create a quantum shift, that now no longer includes that as being me. And now I can choose something else. But we have to connect to ourselves to do that. We tend to connect to, to, like, the universe, but we tend to be like out of body looking outside of us to find the answers. The answers aren't outside of us, even though we're that's where we're looking. We have to look inside. So when you ask me, you know, what is the person going to learn, like in a first session, they're going to really learn that anything is possible, because we're going to have a release in that very first time that we meet, and you're going to experience because until you experience it is different than talking about it right. Once you experience it, you're like, oh, that's what he's talking about, that I could actually let that crap go. And I don't have to live like this anymore. Yeah, you can let it go. And yes, it is. It can be difficult for some people to do that. But when I work with you, is it there's a difference because I hold that energy, I hold that possibility for you when you can't hold it. And that's the difference. So when I'm holding all that for you, it's easy at that point to remove these energies and create a new way of living a new way of life a new way of being.

Brandon Handley 29:54
Yeah, no, that's That's powerful. Definitely appreciate that. And again, you You know, you hit the nail on the head when somebody experiences it when you experience actually saw this guy for a little bit, its energy worker, and he had the best question and he says, you know, how do you know that? Um, if you're, you know, if you're a fish, how do you know that like water is what you need? All right? Have you heard this one before? No, I have not. You take them out of the water. Right? You know, because you're in it all the time. And it's not until you're separated from what you're, you've always been a part of that you, you know, you recognize that this is where you're supposed to be. Right? So you get back into the water, you're like, oh, shit, that's what I needed my entire all this time. So real similar to what you're talking about in that? Okay? Okay, we go back to that. This is how I've always been, these are my these are all my patterns, this is my life pattern is never going to change. I'm going to be anxious and all the rest for the rest of my life. You could never possibly help me. Right? You help them? And then they see just for a moment that they've been living out of the water. Right? Yeah, I should have been, I'm supposed to go back in the water. That's a reconnection to yourself feel like? Right. I'm where I'm supposed to be. And it was always available. Right? So how does it you know, how does that I think I'd even jump back a little bit to, you know, it's really tough, I think for you have to be open to the possibility in order for the shift to happen, or am I wrong? Right? Have you met somebody who's like, not open to it, and it works.

Joshua Bloom 31:43
So I think there's a distinction that's really important here, which is, most people believe that you must believe in order for it to work. And I don't buy into that, that game, you do not need to believe that it will work for it to work. Actually, most people who I work with, including myself, never really believed in the first place, that it was gonna work. We hope we're hopeful. We just want it to work. But do we believe it's gonna work? No, we really don't, we don't believe anything's gonna work, really. And so you don't need to believe what's really key, though, is to be open to the possibility that this could work. You don't have to believe that it will work, but just be open to the possibility. So those people that are not open, and there are those people that are not open? Yeah, they're going to have a more difficult time, because they're not even open to considering the possibility. So then, in a sense, they're collapsing their possibilities before we even get started. So some people need some hand holding beforehand, they need need to work with them, just to get them ready. Whenever we're not even talking about making the change yet, we're talking about, let's just prepare to make the change shirt, you can just consider the possibility of being open to it. And many people who take that road with me, we we really have an amazing transformation, because they started out closed, and they end up open and moving in a direction that they never even thought they could do it themselves.

Brandon Handley 33:10
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, going from I think, again, just using your own story, being this guy, you know, tied up with anxiety to where you are today. Right? I mean, I think that too, a lot of times people just they again, they look at where they're at, and they feel like that's forever. Right? Yes, true. One thing that I think is a challenge in this space is maintaining that high frequency that high vibrations, that continuous connection, you know, how do you assist people to do that?

Joshua Bloom 33:45
Oh, that is a really great question. So I've been working with people for many years on how to raise your energy frequency, and that we have many different ways of doing this. You know, raising your energy frequency can be as simple as taking a shower, going for a walk barefoot, can be using tuning forks, singing bowls, toning things, things can do it. The biggest problem with this, though, is that it works like a bell curve does. So it starts at the bottom you, you let's say we use singing bowls, and the singing bowls bring you to a point where you hit a peak and now you're at the top and it's like, well, I feel really great. And then you start playing the singing bowl. Well, then that doesn't really work very well, because then it starts to go down and down and down and down and down. And then now your energy frequency has plummeted. It a really great example for that as Yoga people go into yoga for an hour and a half, and they really enjoy it and they're feeling really good. And then they stopped doing yoga and of course, same thing happens. It goes up in the peaks and then all of a sudden, you know, half an hour an hour later. You're like I wish I could do yoga again. Well, I don't have the patience for that to be honest with you. You know I and I've done yoga plenty of times, I, you know, whenever, whatever I need to do, I did. And so, you know, doing something like yoga is really great. But if you're just gonna go up and come right back down, that's not really useful. And it takes too long if I got to do 45 minutes to an hour and a half of that, just to be able to feel okay, which one time in my life, that was how it was, it's kind of it gets a rough game, because you're, you're feeling better only during the time, you're really in the yoga. And then after you get out all the anxiety comes back in. So that was a real rough game. For me. Today, what we do is we, we have very fast and very powerful energy transformations that we create by by releasing in the moment, and by raising our energy frequency. And so when we do that, we actually can raise our energy frequency to very, very high level that that instead of it going down, like I was saying the bell curve, you actually keep a good percentage of that. And now that becomes more your new energy level that you've that you've raised up to. And now we have something even even more amazing is that I've created a pendant that I use. Now, that helps us get there. And it helps us stay there and maintain high frequencies of well over 1000 hertz, which is, which is amazing to be able to get get up there. So when you're using, you know, love is like 500 hertz. So 1000 hertz is well beyond the love energy. And we in my classes, we're going up to 10,000, and energy frequency and higher. It's amazing what we can do. And we have tools that actually work to do that. And then today's class that I was in, I was just in the class before coming on to this interview. And in today's class, we were like really going, we weren't even trying to raise our energy frequency. But all of us together in the group were just raising and raising and raising and raising and we're like sitting in this energy thing. Wow, isn't this cool? That's great to be able to connect at this level.

Brandon Handley 37:05
Joshua, you've made an energy battery. I mean, what is it? Right? I mean, it's basically right, you're like, Hey, we gotta recharge this thing. So we can just take it on the road with us? You know, I think that that's just been a little tongue in cheek, but it sounds right. Like you've created something that can store the energy frequency that you create, that you can take with you right and have exactly that. How is the frequency being measured? Like you know, it, I think it's one thing to talk about, and there's people that are gonna be like, Well, that sounds like some hippie shit, Joshua, I'm going to need to see like, at least a thermometer for some death. Right?

Joshua Bloom 37:48
Yeah. So we do test for the energy frequency in the class, we use energy testing to be able to see what level we've actually reached in and using our intuition. That's our, that's how I do it. Other people may use other tools and stuff. But I find that intuition brought me to where I am today. And intuition can also calibrate and be able to tell you exactly where you are. So I can tell when a student gets to a certain level of energy frequency, and whether they maintain it or not, I can tell them exactly where they are at any point in time. That's, I guess, a gift that I have. So the power of that is that I can when I work with people, I can let them know where they are, and where they need to get to. And I can help them with the pendant and, you know, also using the pendant in certain ways to create permanent energy frequency so that you're not living at multiple limit, like to 250 energy frequency.

Brandon Handley 38:43
Are you referring to like the Hawkins scale?

Joshua Bloom 38:46
Yeah, I don't use that scale, particularly. Yeah, no, I'm just I'm just trying to know the scale you're talking about. It only goes up to 1000. But yeah, which is telling me that energy frequencies can go up to 55,000 and higher. And I don't understand the difference in the scale, but according to my intuition, that's there. It's much greater than 1000.

Brandon Handley 39:08
Yeah, I forget. I'm not really math dropped out. Right. Quite literally. You said it's like a logarithmic scale, which I think is actually in tune with what's you're saying? Right? So if you were to say, all right, 1000 is actually your or 55,000? I think, and again, I don't I don't math very well, so I'm okay with that. But, um, when you say that most people are living at like 250 and 200. Yes. I would agree with you based off of his scale. Right, exactly. So that's awesome.

Joshua Bloom 39:41
To be honest, I mean, I live there to for many, many, many, many, many years. And so that my students, but that's the fear. That's the fear that's right down there. It doesn't, but the moment and 200 200

Brandon Handley 39:52
is the tipping point, right? 200 And again, using his scale, just as a topic of conversation is Like 200 is where courage is. And once you start to take courage and step into your greatness, you start to realize you're not alone. You're working with the quantum field, you're working in the space. It's like, all powerful, always available, never off. Right? What's what is possible? Right? So speaking of what's possible, like, where should we where would somebody direct? You know, where would we direct somebody who wants to get to know more about who would read a book, go to your site? What's the first thing? Somebody listen to this podcast? What's their next step? Well, the

Joshua Bloom 40:34
best thing to do is to go to Bing, quantum.com Bing, quantum.com. And when you go there, you'll be able to discover more about what I do, and, and so forth. But I also have a free gift to give you. And I believe that's at iqet.com forward slash Brandon,

Brandon Handley 40:57
nice. People have gifts, man, people Yeah, like stuff. Yeah. What are they gonna find there? Is it a surprise? Or can we give a little little information on what they might find there?

Joshua Bloom 41:07
Yeah, so it's on manifestation. And it's actually includes Dr. Bruce Lipton talks on it, I speak on it, Donna Eaton does and other other well known people do as well. And we're all talking about health, and manifestation together and how you can manifest your best health through all of what we're saying, and all of what we're offering. And we're all saying the same thing. But we come from different experiences of, of the quantum right. So everybody has a different perspective. And everybody gets to the right. So it's amazing what you can what you learn from, from moving forward. When we think about the idea of manifestation, we tend to think about doing things, this is a different than that. This is allowing it to fall in your lap, like I was talking about before, where you're in alignment, and everything's just happening, manifestation can be that way for you, too. And so when you get this gift, it will really help you understand them. That's

Brandon Handley 42:05
awesome. Because like, like you, you'd mentioned on on a couple of your pages that there's a lot of stuff out there. That's BS, right? It's a lot of stuff out there that causes more struggle. And what you're offering helps to remove that struggle and shows you how you can be in alignment with this quantum field, and work with less effort.

Joshua Bloom 42:28
Absolutely, everything I do is simple. And I think that's really important. You know, I've been in places where I didn't have any energy to do anything more than I could just just to get through the day. And so I needed to create something that was very simple that anybody can do. Even if you're exhausted and have exhausted all of your energy, you still can do what I when I teach, it's very easy and very, very powerful.

Brandon Handley 42:51
I love that. Joshua, I do a little thing here, right? Where I look at this as kind of like, spiritual speed dating, right? So I'm gonna ask a couple questions that come from like, I need new questions. These are like the 20 questions for every spiritual seeker. I'm just gonna pick a couple out of here. Didn't any better questions are still refer to the list? So you good for that? Sure. All right. All right. Dears, spiritual. Bachelor number one, what are we also afraid of?

Joshua Bloom 43:30
Well, I think we're afraid of ourselves. And we're afraid of being so powerful. I think that in and I'm sure that was for me as well. You know, we want to be amazing. But we've been squished down like a bug by so many people from such a small child, all the way until we as whoever however we are, however old we are today. And we try to you know, come out of that. But we have so many rules and so many things that say we can't be great. We can't be awesome. We can't be amazing. We're not allowed to do those things. And so I say, although that we're being we're scared to jump out and be amazing that I dare you to do it anyway.

Brandon Handley 44:15
Sure. That's great. You're You're right, right. What would happen if I were amazing?

Joshua Bloom 44:20
Yeah, what would happen I wonder what would happen

Brandon Handley 44:24
to to do? Do your spiritual Bachelor Number one, what is your one wish for the world?

Joshua Bloom 44:33
Oh, wow. I wish that everybody would love each other. You know, there's so much hate and there's so much politics and upset and all sorts of things that really make us crazy. I mean, TV is, you know, we watch the news. I don't even watch the news. It's just so so negatively energetic in a sense. So you know, I just would love everybody Love each other, we all are one, we are all we all are together, we're all in this boat together, so to speak, regardless of where we live or who we are. And we should just love each other. Perfect now, thank

Brandon Handley 45:11
you for that. What, um, anything that we didn't hit on today that you wanted to share with the group?

Joshua Bloom 45:16
Well, we hit on it before, which was, anything is possible. And I know that you don't, or may not believe that anything is possible. If you're listening to this, you know, I didn't necessarily believe that either. So instead of believing it, allow yourself to consider the possibility that anything could be possible. And if it was possible, who would you be, then? What would you create? Where would you go? What would you do? What would be possible for you, if you just considered the possibility that anything was possible?

Brandon Handley 45:48
Outside of Bruce Lipton, who would you say? Were some of the biggest influences on the work that you do?

Joshua Bloom 45:57
Oh, wow. Donna Eaton, I think was a huge influence for me. Because he taught me that energy moves in different ways, and that you can direct it in certain ways, doing certain things. So that brought me to many understandings of how can that work in a quantum field? You know, if I were to take that understanding that I can move energy, you know, she stuck it, she looks at it, from, you know, sort of that will recall that, I guess, that's that, that I guess Chinese medicine kind of point of view. And, and not only that, but generally that, generally speaking, that area, and I was taking that and sticking that into a Quantum Experience a quantum box? And in that box, what would be different? How could we do it? So it's very interesting. You know, it helped me develop a lot of quantum energy transformation differently. Because it let me see things from a different point of view that she was sharing. I thought that was really cool.

Brandon Handley 47:03
Awesome. Now, thanks for sharing that. So it's always interesting to hear, you know, who helped you to get to where you are today. Right. And I think we've all got, you mentioned, you know, most of us are saying similar things. Everybody gets to be right. It just reminded me of like, you know, I don't think it's funny to even think about a radio station anymore. But like the FM dial, right, like you could, you could pick anything along that and like that, that could be your station, right? So I want to say thanks for being on here today had a blast. I'm sure we probably could have gone on and on and on. But we only get so much time to do this. So thanks again for being on. One more time with the website.

Joshua Bloom 47:44
Yes, being quantum.com

Brandon Handley 47:47
Joshua, thank you. Thank you so much. I

Intro Guy 47:49
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Welcome to the show, I'm excited to introduce Dave Florence, the man who was driven by a bang to the head to search for better psychological and physiological health. After years of research and practice, much of which was chronicled on his YouTube channel, 'Evolution of Dave', he has created practices and protocols that have improved his mind and body and those of his clients. He is here to talk about how you can add these same methods to your daily life for more energy, a clearer and more efficient mind, a stronger body and a life experience that is in flow.

Connect with Dave here: https://www.daveflorence.com/

Intro Guy 0:00
Your journey has been an interesting one up to hear you've questioned so much more than those around you. You've even questioned yourself as to how you could have grown into these thoughts. Am I crazy? When did I begin to think differently? Why do people in general appear so limited to this thought process? Rest assured, you are not alone. The world is slowly waking up to what you already know inside yet can't quite verbalize. Welcome to the spiritual dough podcast, the show that answers the questions you never even knew to ask, but knew the answers to questions about you this world the people in it? Most importantly, how do I proceed? Now moving forward? We don't even have all the answers, but we sure do love living in the question. Time for another shade of spiritual dub with your host, Brandon Handley. Let's get right into today's episode.

Brandon Handley 0:42
One, there's spiritual stuff. We this is the first podcast I've recorded in the New Year. Welcome. I'm not sure when it's gonna be out there. But David and I have been trying to connect here for a bit now had to push off a little bit in December. But I've got David Florence, who I found through YouTubing and looking for 20 minute breathwork sessions, because that's all I wanted. That's all I could really tolerate in my daily day, day to day. Turns out David, you know, had some great sessions. I listened to him today, like, so it's been like six months, David, I've been listening to your stuff. So thank you for putting it out there. And he's also a Soma breath practitioner Wim Hof breath practitioner. Evolution of Dave is is your YouTube channel. And you know, you've got some really great content that's so helpful, practical, applicable to us in our current state of the world. So thanks for being on David. Hey, there's spiritual dope. Today, we change the format here just a little bit. Dave, and I got done with our conversation and some other stuff came up. And I was like, You know what, this, let's just go ahead and put this in the beginning. So it really gives you an introduction of who Dave was. Before he is who he is today, super pertinent to the listener, super pertinent to me, him the journey. And to anyone in this space, take a listen, weave it in, and then we'll jump into the regular beginnings. Right, you're saying Did you drink where you were pretty heavy drinker before doing all this stuff? And that world upside down? Vaca Dave? So you found so let me let me just I want to read this in there somewhere. So vaca Dave, and again, it's the similarities are so striking. And because when we say I used to live in a really nice neighborhood, and we owe them a nice neighborhood now, but like where I used to live, you know, nice community, we all hung out with each other all the time, we all drank and partied with each other all the time. And I used to make my own beer and my own wine, whatever. And nine times out of 10, you would see me with a beer in my hand. Right? It didn't really matter what kind of time it was or whatever. And it was. I had a water in my hand one morning, Saturday morning, neighbors like, what are you doing? Are you drinking water? I was like, Yeah, drink of water. And I was like that that was a point for me where I was like, I don't want to be known as the dad that's drinking beer all the time. Yes. You know. Right, as like, that's not that's not not what I'm about, like, so what needs to change here again. So, again, so let's just, I want to rewind a little bit there. So tell me a little bit date about bought vaca? Dave?

Dave Florence 3:40
Hmm, what could Dave if I talk about him in the third person? Because that's how people would talk about actually so especially when I was living in London, people would, let's say there was a party, or some kind of event people would come up to me and say is vodka Dave coming? I go, Yeah, of course. And this is this is the thing, you know, I think people considered me boring unless I wasn't. So unless I was vodka, Dave. And I had attached that appreciation to my own psychology to a point where if it was a party or some kind of event, I could only be vodka, Dave because that was the mask that I needed in order to feel comfortable. Now luckily by today was a very fun character. He was always happy never got into any negative trouble only positive trouble. So you know,

Brandon Handley 4:44
there is a certain describe positive trouble to me, Dave.

Dave Florence 4:47
Well, there is a certain posh club in London that did have a very large chandelier hanging And they probably have a replacement chandelier. But at one point I was swinging from it. So it definitely was not at what you wouldn't do that anywhere anyway, let's face it, but yeah, that was my do. Yes. Yes. Yes. So yeah, I think cycle.

Brandon Handley 5:25
Do you know the bank that I had? Was this a vaca? Dave incident?

Dave Florence 5:31
Yes, I think it was if I know it was, but I don't know how it happened. I don't know if I was beaten up. I don't know if I fell down some steps. I have no idea. And if that five hours the night are totally lost to me. I don't know what happened during that period.

Brandon Handley 5:47
Yeah, well, it again, just goes to show I think how you know, you hit on spirituality, you hit on like, you know, who we are now. Right? You and I, who we are now isn't who we've always been. There is a pathway there that not everybody wants to take. Right? You don't have to take you know, Baca days route, you don't have to take, you know, you know, Brandon, you know, drinking beer all the time route. There's a path to to this space without having to go there. But a lot of times we've been that person, we've gone through that space. And we come out we're like, and we're here now. Yes, we're very evangelical about breath, work, exercise, read, learn all you can ah, but at one point, we were gargling, you know, in the morning with Vaca, or Jim Beam or something else. And so I put that out there. Because if vaca Dave can do it, if I can do it. And I'm not saying you have to go out and stop drinking or stop from continuing doing what you're doing. But just know that that's not the end product. Right? That? Yeah, that's right.

Dave Florence 7:05
I know. And also, I think, you know, there's a reason why you're doing it, you're doing it because you're unhappy with who you are. You're not You're not you haven't accepted who you are, and you're willing to present who you are to other people, there's something that needs fixing. So if you can be a drunk, and be totally happy with who you are, then maybe that's your journey, maybe that's your path. Most of the time we do this, because we don't want to be the other person. Because the other person is either too boring, or maybe hasn't got anything to say isn't fun. So yeah, that's all it really, isn't it? I think it just comes down to who do I want to be? And am I happy with this person? Do I know who this person is? Because that's what the work does. That's what the pressure. Thank you. I appreciate being here. I'm very grateful. Thank you. And thanks for your kind words.

Brandon Handley 7:56
For sure, and the other the other piece I'll share with everybody before we get on David also has a Scott, a space on Facebook's got a 90 day YouTube challenge that I took and went through 90 days, I think that they've suggested that they be consecutive mine, we're not all the same. It was a great space and a great experience to be in there with Dave, as he, you know, encouraged me and many others along through the 90 Day Challenge. So David, I'd also like to thank you for that while we're here.

Dave Florence 8:29
No problem. It's an interesting experience, isn't it? So for those listening? Yeah, it's I think it's actually good for anybody to do the whole idea, the premise of it was to see if we can get more people interested in putting their work out there breath work out on YouTube. But when you think about the practice itself, of committing to uploading and creating, or going live in a video every day for 90 days, the commitment itself is the crucial bit that has a knock on effect with your psychology in that you, you start to develop the real authentic, you're in front of the camera. And this is what I learned when I did the same exercise that went in front of a camera I think we all have a tendency of wearing the mask, you know, the actors masks the presenters mask. And by committing to doing this video every day, you eventually become the real authentic genuine you. But I think also what people's some people find with doing this. This exercise is yes, they start to hopefully create ideas for their content. But sometimes also people start to get a better understanding of themselves. Because once you get to a point where you no longer care, what you say, and what you look like. Often then The spilling out in this stream of consciousness flow of rambling chit chat is that you start to reveal to yourself some of the inner work, you know, you start rambling away and then it veers off in in a direction because you don't care anymore. You're not thinking about the listener and whether they find you interesting you do, you're just flowing with it. And so I think that's great. If you are creating a YouTube channel, but it's great, I think, from a psychological perspective as well, I think it can be, you know, a sort of a healing tool, if you want it to be.

Brandon Handley 10:37
Sure, sure. And I love it. Everything that you're saying there resonates with me, I think one of the things that I think of when you're saying that is Bob Proctor has rip Bob Proctor. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him. But um, you know, he had this exercise, that he would say, hey, the, the problems that I have right now, I like to get them all out of my head and onto this piece of paper. Right? And so he would say, all right, are all my problems in my head? Or are they on this piece of paper? And he would, he would do this exercise until all of his problems are on like this piece of paper he gotten everything kind of dumped out in there. And and I think that I think that's that's really similar process with this, right? Like, here's, here's how I want to communicate, here's what I want to say. You've been on you. Listen to me ramble plenty of times people on this podcast have listened to me ramble plenty of times, you've got

Dave Florence 11:27
beautiful rambling.

Brandon Handley 11:31
I appreciate it. I appreciate it. But you find that like, there's this other tangent, like, Oh, but wait, there's just one more piece that will help make this whole. And similar to kind of what you're saying there. Right? You, you get this opportunity to to let things out that have been contained for so long. And you're like, wow, hold on a second. Not only that sounds good. Wait, did they hear what I got to say next, right, or, here's, here's who I actually am. And it's all it's all unfolding right here. So again, appreciate you creating that space and making that a possibility had had a blast. I literally just finished it at the end of the new year, as promised. So, David, let's just jump into it a little bit, right. You've got a breathwork practice. You've been doing it for quite some time. I've got a breathwork practice. I'm fairly new to it. You've got some stories I'd love to dig into. Let me just ask you. Where did you first find breathwork for yourself? And you know, what made it something that you wanted to know more about? Hmm.

Dave Florence 12:35
So I had a dramatic entrance into the breathwork world. In the in 2017, I had a bang to the head. It was quite literally a bang, you know, literal Bang to the head. During a drunken night out, I lost about five hours in the night I was found by the side of the road taken hospital. It wasn't that bad, but it was enough of a bang. The next day, I wanted to do something to optimize my mind and my body. I had this, this thought of hang on a minute. I'm a father of a young child, I'm a husband, this is not how one acts, you know, and it was I was berating myself and I you know if I often say to people, you know, if I was a Catholic back in the, you know, in the Middle Ages, I would be there with my flail whipping myself, you know, it was that kind of psychology I wanted. And luckily at the time, although he wasn't that popular at the time, Wim Hof was putting out videos on cold therapy, and I thought, that's what I need. It was December it was minus 10 outside. So I went in the garden, grabbed the garden hose, poured cold water over me, was naked as well. And that's exactly what I needed. And I'm sure my neighbors did do for amusement. So, along with the cold therapy, obviously with the Wim Hof Method, they do promote breathwork and that's when I got into it. So late 2017 After two months of doing the Wim Hof Method breathwork I was hooked. So hooked, I was going through the highs that you all go through when you start doing this practice with commitment and discipline. And I was screaming from the rooftops I was telling all my friends about it. None of them would listen, obviously, I was being very evangelical. And that's when I created my YouTube channel because I wanted to tell people I was you know, I was in such a great state. I think everybody should do this is amazing. So that's when I created evolution of Dave because I saw this as being a catalyst to change. You know, I saw this as being this is me putting a stake in the ground. And I'm now going to optimize my mind and my body. Initially it was with breathwork and then a whole load of practices after that, but that was really my entrance into breathwork you know, this thing that I'm now able to look back and think that happened for a reason. You know, that was one of life's messages I needed that in order to be this. So I'm grateful for it now.

Brandon Handley 15:06
I get it real similar kind of line in the sand I guess, in terms of enemas timeline of stepping into these practices myself similar, I did not fall down with a bang that ahead, but I drank enough. And I was like, Is this really? Is this really who I want my children to see? Is this really the like, I've got two boys I was like, and if they are going to use me as their model, that is just a model that I should have in front of them. And it was it was really around 2017 It's funny. But I said, you know, what? Time, you know, how can I? What changes do I want to make so that I can be a better model? If not, you know, I'm not the best. Right? But how can I be a better model offer for my children? And that was a starting point for me. So let's talk about the highs that you mentioned. What do you mean by that? Like, you know, the highs from breathwork? Or some of the other stuff?

Dave Florence 16:11
Yeah, so akin to the kind of highs I would have experienced when I was a raver back in the day, you know, we're talking early 90s. You know, I would, I would do all the things without putting it into words, I would do all the things that you did when you would spend 20 hours dancing.

Brandon Handley 16:37
I'm super familiar.

Dave Florence 16:40
There's a lot of us out there. And so whilst they weren't necessarily the same intensity, some of the highs that I was getting, were this very elated feeling. Sort of, you know, when I was saying, you know, shouting from the rooftops, that's what I felt like doing, you know, I wanted to get outside the front of the house and go, everybody, you should do this amazing, you know, I was in that state, I didn't care what percent. But also, obviously, when I've started to push the rounds into four or five round territory by then I was doing so my breath, which I preferred, because I, you know, it was the music, the isochronic tones that enhance that experience. And I love the music because of course, that still took me back to the days of raving as well. Not that it's all like that, but you know what I mean? Some of it is with a very specific rhythm. And when you start doing the four or five rounds, you do then get these out of altered state experiences. So, you know, as you describe it like a high that that is quite a good descriptive, I suppose to that experience. You know, you're left afterwards going okay, yeah, you know, you're in a beautiful floaty state, you've had some visions, or at least visuals, albeit light, you know, during the sort of fourth and fifth round maybe. And you've you come out of it almost as if you've just been given some insight sometimes as well. Not always. But you know, sometimes you think Ah, okay, yeah, I figured something out, I think. So.

Brandon Handley 18:20
You've got you've got you've got a really nice you've, I forget which one of your summer breath works that you do. But you talk about, you know, whatever is coming to you, in this moment, use this for today, what do you want this day to look like? And, you know, there are visualizations that come through, or a lot of people like to call them downloads, but these insights that they kind of come when we've been so we've been putting so much effort into life, right? And then when we sit down and we do these breathwork moments, or these breathwork, meditations, and then something comes to us, and it's so easy and effortless for like, like you said, it's like, why isn't everybody doing this? Why aren't we all talking about it? I share this breathwork with a group of guys at a sober house. i One of the things I talk to them about is say, say well imagine, you know, like you talked about going to the party doing the rave all night dance for 2020 hours or whatever. Imagine you kind of get a super similar feeling to that. But then you can get back up and go back to work. Right? Yeah. For four to eight hours, right? Like, you know, so. So I always make that joke with those guys. And like you said, these altered states of experiences. When we talk about that, and you and I've been in this rave scene, I always liken it to like, yeah, it's an altered state, but some was better, right? Because it's hyper clean. We just created it within ourselves. We are Chemical

Dave Florence 20:00
factory unit pharmacy. Yeah.

Brandon Handley 20:04
Yeah. And so being able to be able to do that and kind of come out of it. It's amazing. I love being able to do it, when the How are you using this to, you know, optimize your own life? What are some of the what are some of the benefits that you've received after you found it?

Dave Florence 20:22
Well, interestingly, I would say three months in, of doing this kind of intense breath work every day, I realized I was beginning to develop this insatiable appetite for learning. And also, it felt like my memory had improved. At the time, I thought that was something to do with the bank to the head, you know, I genuinely thought I've had one of those, I think they call them the sort of idiot several moments where, you know, you have a bang to the head, and all of a sudden, you become this incredible artists. So I was thinking, Oh, maybe that's what's happened, something's been knocked in my right hemisphere. You know, the creative bit. But then after obviously doing more research, and that's what my journey has been about since 2017. It's you know, it's it's learning practices research, playing with it, that's crucial, from my perspective, is what I teach others, you know, it's really play with this stuff, explore experiment, and then you won't ever give up. And what I was discovering was that I was, not only did I have this insatiable appetite for learning, so I was, you know, getting book after book, but I had a capacity for remembering it as well. And this was never, I hadn't experienced this before. And then when I looked at the research, that there's various bits of research that indicate that things like spatial memory improves through doing this kind of breathwork. So I realized, okay, right, so it's down to the breath work. And that's why the breath work has been as just run like a clean vein, day after day for the last five and a bit years. Because I've always known the power of it. And then obviously, when you start exploring lots of other forms of breathwork, you realize that you can get a breath work for creating energy, you can use breath work for preparing your mind for a presentation, you can use breath work to calm the nervous system, you know, there's a whole load of different practices that you can learn that a really good for different kinds of situations. So not only did I get that sort of cognitive benefit, but then I realized I could add these into my, my imaginary toolbox. So I've got this box of tricks that I can actually return to, under given situations. But all of that, I have to say, when I'm teaching people on a one to one, quite often, what I'm saying to them is, it's all very well me teaching you this stuff. But you've got to retain it, you've got to remember it. And I think the problem that we find now in today's society is that we are awash with potential practices and ideas and methods that could optimize us that could heal us. And we pick up a book and we read it, we go, wow, that was amazing. I'm going to use that technique. And we do so for a month, and then we forget it because we've picked up another one. And we see the next shiny object. The crucial thing is when you realize and recognize that breathwork is so powerful, you got to say to yourself, right? How do I therefore make that a part of who I am? So not that I see it like a chore. In other words, I should do this, I must do this, you know that kind of psychology before then doing the breath work, you've got to figure out how do I make this a part of who I am, and how I flow through life. And that's what I realized early on that I've got to find ways of making this stuff stick. Because I want to keep this the intention was this is now me, and this is how I flow and move through life with these techniques. So I think a lot of people listening will have tried breathwork. But I would imagine there'll be lots that have probably stopped. And this this conversation will go Oh, yeah, I forgot I was doing that.

Brandon Handley 24:09
Oh, sure. Sure. And I love what you're saying there too, right? We, you get to the certain point. I never, I never got to a point myself where my memory got suit a lot better. But I got to this point where people are breathwork is this insatiable desire to like learn and pull in. Pull in an amazing amount of content, right? And then one shiny object to another Oh, this will make me amazing. I'll go do this. This will make me amazing. I'll go do that. This is an you know. So that is a real challenge. How were you know, how have you been able to implement it like you're saying as a part of who you are integrated into the whole of who you are, and maintain it, like stick with it?

Dave Florence 24:53
Yeah. So apologies for dying in the background. Now. I've got I've got your room. I've got a little tickle on my throat earlier today. So I decided to make myself a warm drink with honey, organic thyme, and lemon. But the cup is full of thyme seeds, and I think they went away. So anyway, they'll save you or kill you. Exactly, exactly. So how do I make this stick? Well, let me tell you what I teach others. First of all, it is this whole, looking at the intention behind it asking yourself, Why am I doing this? You know, am I doing it because it's the latest fad Am I doing it because somebody else has suggested it, am I doing it because all I just tried that experience has given me a really good high. Because if those are the reasons, you've got to look at your intention behind it, that you hear so many stories of people doing the Wim Hof Method or Soma breath three months in, they give up because their neurochemical changes have altered, their body has adapted, and they're not getting the same highs as they were before. And so therefore they give up. And of course, that tells me that their only reason for doing it was because of the highs because of these amazing feelings, when really you should look at the intention deeper. And look at the spiritual benefits the inner work that you can get from doing this practice. So when you that will be tip number one, look at breathwork as a means of developing a better understanding of yourself of knowing that these practices will have a huge physiological benefit, you know, improving your immunity, improving your circulatory system, improving your your ability to sense others and sense things. Your ability to to tap into a meditative state without meditating. You know, there's, there's so many benefits. So you need to tune into that and understand those. So that when you're doing it, you know that this any at no point? Does it feel like a chore? You know? Because again, if you start to say these words to yourself, have you've just woken up, I should do this, I ought to do this. Well, that's the wrong terminology. That's the wrong language. And that will lead you to giving up because already, you said yourself. I'm doing this for other reasons, not because it resonates not because it feels good. And then the other thing is

Brandon Handley 27:31
my wake up. I wake up in the morning, and I find myself saying, oh, I should do this, I should do that. What should I be saying myself instead?

Dave Florence 27:41
Well, this is where you need to, first of all understand why you're doing it. So understand the intention. And this is this is the thing you need to look at, first of all, because that's the key to have the language that you use. So

Brandon Handley 28:02
what like what would be an example, then it's I guess, if my intention for the breath work is to become better in sports? What language would I use? And

Dave Florence 28:13
yeah, so Well, let me tell you the language that I use. So when I wake up in the morning, I say to myself, I intend to move, breathe, flow through this day, using all the tools that I have that make me feel good or something along those lines, you know. So I know instinctively through the practice, that there are many benefits to why I do the breathwork physiological and psychological. So therefore, I at no point do I say I should do this, I ought to do it. Because I've got to a point now where my body and mind has accepted this practice. So it's, you don't even have to use the word breathwork. When you look at your intention setting in the morning, you know, I intend to flow through this day making use of all the practices I know that will enable me to do so you know, when you look at it from that external perspective of wanting to flow, reaching flow states or wanting to flow through the day, then you already know if you've been practicing it that breathwork will be one of those tools. So we'll exercise so we'll movement flow, so we'll ritual so we'll, you know, a whole load of other things. You don't need to label them all. You just need to say to yourself, I intend to flow through this day, knowing that by the end of it, I can end the day with a smile on my face knowing that I've achieved knowing that I've done the things I want to do. So you know, don't be specific about it because your body knows. If you've already connected and resonated with the breath work, then you know that that is who you are. That's what you do. You don't think before the action that is that is just who you are. So for example, when I roll

Brandon Handley 29:53
out of bed

Dave Florence 29:55
I roll onto the floor and I do a very easy flowing fight. Have Tibetan rites yoga routine, it's the simplest of all yoga, easy to do, and it wakes the whole body up, there's no significant stretches for you don't want to stretch too hard in the morning when you wake up anyway. And then because you breathe through that exercise that really leads me then into the breathwork. You know, at the end of the last Tibetan rites, I'm on my back, I've been breathing through every move. So I then seamlessly move from that yoga into starting off with a four, eight breathing pattern, sometimes listening to music, sometimes I don't know, just do it, you know, without any kind of influence or stimuli, I just do it. Before I then move into the cold shower and do all the other lovely things that I do.

Brandon Handley 30:49
Now. I like that. So you've got you've got a basically a mantra, you wake up an intention setting for the day, that is all inclusive of like, if you say, Hey, I intend to move and breathe and flow through the day, you've already created that your mind already says, hey, that's attached to breathwork that's attached to the shower that's attached to the yoga. And if he sees himself, you know, doing this other line, right, I intend to breathe flow. And you see yourself ending that day, that way, you've created the visualization, that system mind already in action first thing of the day.

Dave Florence 31:29
Exactly. So I also used initially another hat, another tool called habit stacking, I don't know if you've come across that.

Brandon Handley 31:39
That's the beginning of my journey as well. It's kind of it's very funny. That was the very beginning, trying to think of the article, because I still remember the article doesn't exist anymore. But the article talks about habit stacking. And that's when I hadn't read books and like, decades, right? Like, well, if you just read like 20 pages a day, you know, get the hat, you know, and do this and do that ain't do this habit stacking. I'll let you share a little bit more about what it is. But that was that was became my journey. Have a second share more about that. David? I haven't shared it too much on this podcast at all.

Dave Florence 32:16
Yeah, I mean, it's the simplest of tools, but probably one of the most powerful for getting you to do the stuff you really want to do. So all it does is taps into a mind state in which you are in a state of acceptance. In doing that one task that you're doing at the time, and really what you're doing is you are hack hacking the mind, you might say. So let's say everybody has at least one thing they do every day without fail that they know will serve them from a health perspective. Let's say brushing your teeth, for example, everybody does it. And when they do it, they don't think before they do it, they don't think oh, I've got to brush my teeth. I mean, they might do when they're a child, and they might need prodding, but when they're a child, or when they're an adult, you just do it, don't you? You don't think before you do it, you don't think whilst you're doing it, your body and mind have totally accepted that that is a good thing to do. Because it's healthy, it's good for your oral health, etc, etc. So all you do is when you're brushing your teeth, bearing in mind that at that point, your mind is in this wonderful state of acceptance. Oh, yeah, I'm just doing it doesn't you're not even thinking about it. So all you do whilst you're brushing your teeth is you say, After I brush my teeth, I will dot dot dot whatever this thing is that you want to build into your life that you know, would be good for you. That would be healthy. So let's say for example, it might be a cold shower, it could be breathwork, depending on when you brush your teeth. And so you are making use of the brain state of this acceptance brain state. And you're being aware you're tricking it because you're, you're you're saying to yourself, oh, well, whilst I'm at it, I might as well do this. You know, you're obviously in the right state at the moment, I won't tell you that I'm trying to trick you in any way. But once you're in that state, well, let's just slip a cold shower in afterwards, or let's do some breath work. So it's almost like the brain is going yeah, cool, man, you know, whatever you say, because I'm in the state of acceptance. And then you do that a few times. And that seems dialed in. Your brain doesn't then question it after a while. So and then of course, it's called habit stacking because what you then do is you go okay, let me see if I can slip another one in after this. And so you say after I brush my teeth, and after I've had my cold shower, I will dot dot dot and you add the next thing that you want to build into your life. So simple. Yeah,

Brandon Handley 34:52
I think I think that what did we add in like we weren't my wife and I weren't great at making the bed. Right? I added that and and of course, you know, the admiral, whatever his name is to make your bed story. You know, I was like, Well, if I make my bed, like one of the easiest things I can do in the day, that's a win. Like, if I just start my day by winning like that, come on now. Right? So it became a game, it became part of the habit stack. So I love that. Love that you're using that now. You were able to, throughout your practices throughout all the benefits as you're optimizing yourself and your learning and your habit stacking. I don't know exactly how you came across it, but I did hear that you were able to, and I've read plenty of it, who taiko method and others to cure your asthma. Can you share a little bit about, you know, kind of how that worked out?

Dave Florence 35:53
Yeah, it was, it was really cool, actually. Because when I was a child, I had a little bit of it, I definitely had a lot of things like hay fever. I became very allergic to horses, so I had to stop riding horses. And then it kind of dissipated. And I was fine as an adult until I moved to a town or city rather called bath, which is it sits in a bowl, it's surrounded by hills. And it collects all this dirty air. And whilst out running, I began to develop this exercise induced asthma. And it was getting worse and worse. And then I was given the medication and told that you know, I'm going to have to continue using that for life etc, etc. With the breath work wet, the more I delved into the breath work. One of the the books that I read early on was called the oxygen advantage by Patrick McEwan. There's loads of good breathwork books out there now. And that is an amazing book, but it's a bit dry. For a beginner, you know, you want to read breath by James Nestor, because that's such an easy flowing read. Patrick McCune book is full of information. And in that book, he touched on boot taiko and the boot Aiko method. A Russian that had created this method of which one of its benefits is to heal or cure asthma. Now, what's wonderful in this country, and I say this with an element of sarcasm is that most GPS general practitioners, medical doctors, really still are relying on pharmaceuticals to aid anybody's health. And they don't really understand or want to understand anything that might be alternative. So through the use, and I don't know how many months it took me three or four months. Through the use of big taiko a lot of the and also the Wim Hof Method, I think is part reason for healing myself. The reason why those types of breath work work for asthma is all to do with breath holds. And it's all to do with gaining a tolerance to carbon dioxide. Which by the way, is interesting because if you develop a tolerance for higher levels of carbon dioxide that correlates with your tolerance to deal with high levels of stress. So you know, you learn you learn breathwork develop a tolerance to higher levels of carbon dioxide in the body. And you will hopefully find that you are better able to deal with stress. But anyway, the when you do certain breath work, not only are you playing with oxygen and carbon dioxide, but also nitrous oxide, nitric oxide, sorry, nitric oxide, not nitrous is not the stuff that makes you high nitric oxide, which also has this vasodilatory effect opens up the blood vessels again, making it easier for you to breathe. So these breathwork practices eventually optimize my my ability to breathe. And when I went back to the doctor and I said, Look, I don't think I need this medication anymore. And she said this is silly. And she's okay. Well, we'll run some tests. She said Mr. Florence, you're right. I don't know how you've done it. But you're right. You don't need this medication unless it can you give me a letter that says that. You did. And obviously I proudly then presented this letter.

Brandon Handley 39:39
You're certified healthy. What is talk a little bit about what the blue taiko method is if somebody's not familiar with it. Like what what does that practice look like?

Dave Florence 39:53
Yeah, so a lot of it is to do with breath hold as I say. You've got various different practices. such as walking and holding your nose. There's just various methods of holding your breath whilst either moving. There's also various different techniques where, in fact, they teach this with Soma breath as well, where

you are deliberately clenching your nose and moving your head around. So it's overall, it's all about increasing your awareness of your breath, but also improving your ability to ventilate. And be I suppose that's probably the I mean boutique would probably give you a much better description, but I suppose that's the right way of describing it.

Brandon Handley 41:01
For sure, for sure. Thanks for Thanks for sharing that. Because it's interesting, like you said, you get so excited about everything that can be done with the breath work, do you like Oh, tell me what your problems are. And we can probably cure that with breath work, we can probably get you started down the right path with some Have you tried breathwork have you. So when you get down and you get get down to it, there's not a lot of our everyday maladies that can't be improved in some way or another, by the way that we breathe.

Dave Florence 41:38
Yeah, especially because you've got inhale, breath holds, and you've got exhale, breath holds. And one of the things that bootmaker breathing does is makes use of the exhale breath hold. It's not quite as intense as say, the Wim Hof Method or so McGrath, where you're doing lots of hyperventilating first, with the bootmaker method, for example. You just simply breathe normally three or four times, and then you do a relaxed exhale, and then you hold your breath. And the key to it is when you get that first urge to breathe, you then inhale through your nose. If at that first surge, you breathe through the nose, and you find it really difficult, and you have to breathe through the mouth, then you've helped you've held your breath for too longer. So you've held your breath for too long rather. So we've taken the actual method itself is quite simple. But like I said, it is all to do with breath holds. And you're right. It's interesting how you can just through the process of holding your breath, either on an inhale breath hold or an exhale, breath hold or deliberately hyperventilating, which for a lot of people sounds like it's counterintuitive, counterproductive, but actually, that can super enhance the benefits of breathwork. And you start to experience and play with levels of hypoxia reducing the oxygen in your body for brief, brief periods. And in fact, a friend of mine who I've gotten to know have not met in the real world only online. A lovely lady, I've appeared on her channel a couple of times called AJ, she's doing some research at the moment, where the breathwork the you and I know and that is Wim Hof Soma breath where you are effectively causing or deliberately experiencing hypoxic or hypoxic environment. She's doing some research to see whether the results of that could be the equivalent to doing high altitude training. So you know, most athletes will do high altitude training, as we know what what she's trying to ascertain is do they need to do that? Could they achieve the same results through learning? Hypoxia based breathwork?

Brandon Handley 43:48
Yeah. What are your thoughts? What have you found so far?

Dave Florence 43:52
I would say yes, I My opinion is I think she will probably discover as I think she believes already anyway, that the you can achieve the same results. Because really, when you think about it, high altitude training, you're working in a low oxygen environment. When you're practicing intermittent hypoxia, you are doing exactly the same thing. So I suspect the results will be similar.

Brandon Handley 44:20
Nice, nice. So I mean, look, that'd be great if you don't have to climb a mountain that kind of training. Yeah, well, that can be which is always cool, right? Yeah, absolutely. I'm not saying you don't want to but you know, maybe you don't have the time today to go do that. So you also offer you know, corporate wellness with breath work. And you know, one on ones. What's, what's the reception been like for the corporate wellness breathwork and how are you going about approaching people and sharing it to offer use in that space?

Dave Florence 44:53
Yeah, so two ways either going out there and banging on doors, which I don't like doing but you Do you have to do that, don't you? Or I've made use of other well being businesses to get me in the door. And in terms of the response breathwork has now reached a point where most people have heard of it. They don't all know what it is no, have they tried it, but most people have heard of it. And they're beginning to hear about some of the benefits. And when you think about the corporate space, both in your country and mine, it is bereft with high stress, anxiety. People are worried about their jobs, whether they're going to lose their jobs, people are worried about overworking people are experiencing burnout. I think right now, most people are open to anything that will ease the pressure of their job, and their work experience. So I had a really interesting corporate workshop not too long ago with Exxon, Exxon Mobil, and a whole load of these techies, who were lovely folk. But before the workshop, I had been told that I really need to be on my game. Because these people are going to want scientific evidence, they're going to, you know, for every bit of woowoo, fluffy stuff that I'm going to teach them, they'll, they're going to question it. So on the car journey, which took me two hours to get there, I deliberately armed, so I thought for two hours, inhale, or long exhale on sounds just did that the whole journey. By the time I got there, I was floating on air. And I knew nothing could have taken me out of that state. The good thing was, these people were nothing like that was described to me, they were totally open, and already a bit do some of these practices anywhere is amazing. And they were all from different parts of the world as well, they'd all been brought into this one group to experience this two hour workshop. So I was having them, you know, I was teaching them other stuff. And I'd teach flow, state practice, clinical hypnotherapeutic, Positive Intelligence, a whole lot of different things. And, but by the end of it, I was having them moving doing something called the Zen swing, I was having them on the floor breathing, even doing arm sounds, you know, they were doing the whole works. And they were totally open to it, and loved it. So yeah, I think the corporate space needs us, they need us to come in there. It shouldn't be too much of a sell job to get us in there. And maybe we need to just do more promotional work via YouTube, in podcasts to help get the message out there so that we don't need to bang down doors.

Brandon Handley 47:48
Not for sure I get it. And that's great. It's great that you're getting that kind of response, it's good that you're reaching out and sharing that work. And in that space. Where can somebody find out more information about your like kind of one on one work, and if they were interested, and your corporate information work, and they work together, they get that

Dave Florence 48:11
all on my website, Dave florence.com. So da ve florence.com. If you want to get a feel for the stuff that I do, then check out my YouTube channel. And you're going to see lots of me on there talking about a whole load of different stuff, but you'll get a feel for the stuff that I teach. But yeah, my website, Dave, Florence has everything you need. My 10 Day Program, which starts on the 23rd of January is in there. You can book one to one sessions with me, you can book my corporate stuff as well, all on that one website.

Brandon Handley 48:47
We'll do as I said at the beginning here, I love the YouTube content that you've put out there, I use it myself all the time. Great that we're wouldn't lose. I had to laugh when when I saw that you were in some of the Facebook groups. I was like it was frickin Dave is here. I was like, This is awesome. This is it was it was amazing. It was pretty exciting. So that's just kind of I think how the space works as well, like you find somebody that you can relate to. You're very relatable you give very professional, but I think approachable. And I appreciate the work that you've been putting out there. Thank you for showing up today, Dave.

Dave Florence 49:26
Well, thank you. Like I said at the beginning, I'm very grateful. I really appreciate it. I love the stuff you're putting out there too. So we are connected. I

Intro Guy 49:36
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