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Break Free From Burnout18 Jun 202501:06:03

Burnout coach and CPA Lynnette Oss Connell joins us and shares her personal journey from running a successful accounting practice while juggling five kids, to recognizing and addressing signs of complete burnout. She explains how women experience burnout differently than men due to biological and social factors, and why 99% of accountants struggle with chronic stress. Lynnette introduces the concept of time versus energy management audits, as well as different strategies for burnout prevention versus recovery. Lastly, we discuss the critical importance of building authentic community before crisis hits.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (00:44) - Introducing the Topic: Break Free from Burnout
  • (00:58) - Meet Lynnette Oss Connell: The Burnout Bestie
  • (02:25) - Lynnette's Journey Through Burnout
  • (03:45) - The Importance of Community and Support
  • (06:21) - Balancing Efficiency and Emotional Well-being
  • (15:08) - Energy Audits and Work-Life Balance
  • (20:47) - Lynnette's Decision to Transition Out of Her Firm
  • (24:08) - Understanding Burnout in Accounting
  • (27:28) - Managing Stress and Preventing Burnout
  • (31:50) - The Gift of Reactivity in Retail
  • (32:49) - Burnout in Women: A Unique Experience
  • (33:13) - Understanding Stress Responses
  • (35:52) - Symptoms and Diagnosis of Burnout
  • (39:38) - Prevention vs. Recovery
  • (44:00) - Subtle Red Flags of Burnout
  • (46:48) - Building Resilience and Community
  • (54:13) - Personal Stories and Final Thoughts

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How to Make Business Happen When Life Happens04 Jun 202501:02:11

What do you do when your world falls apart—but the deadlines don’t stop?

In this deeply personal episode, we’re getting real about the moments that nearly broke us. Nancy shares what it was like to run a firm while surviving months without being able to sit or lie down due to seizures. Questian opens up about her son’s sudden hospitalization and the toll it took on her body, business, and spirit.

We talk about the pressure women in accounting feel to keep it together, to "suck it up," even in the middle of a crisis—and why perfectionism is a lie that keeps us isolated. We explore how transparency and community support can be lifelines when life feels impossible, and talk through actionable recommendations for how we can help each other manage personal emergencies while duty calls.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (01:02) - Nancy's Personal Story of Medical Crisis
  • (04:03) - Support Systems and Client Management
  • (14:02) - Question's Story: Navigating Personal Trauma
  • (19:49) - The Importance of Empathy and Community
  • (28:10) - Practical Tips for Supporting Others
  • (32:55) - Challenges Women Face in Accounting
  • (34:11) - Breaking Point: Embracing Vulnerability
  • (35:32) - Redefining Resilience
  • (39:10) - Managing Expectations and Mental Health
  • (44:16) - The Power of Communication
  • (46:40) - Building Support Systems
  • (50:28) - Practical Solutions and Automation
  • (55:27) - Planning for Unplanned Absences
  • (57:47) - Final Thoughts and Resources

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She Believed in Me - Before I Did21 May 202501:10:55

Mentorship can transform careers, yet women in accounting often struggle to find female leaders to guide them - despite equal numbers entering the profession, only 19% of partners are women. Questian and Nancy explore how seeing someone who looks like you succeed makes your own success feel possible, sharing personal stories of mentors who believed in them before they believed in themselves. The hosts discuss both the psychology behind effective mentorship and practical ways to find mentors who align with your values, regardless of their age or position.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (00:50) - Episode Theme: Mentorship
  • (01:58) - The Importance of Female Mentors
  • (05:57) - Challenges Women Face in Leadership
  • (09:23) - Benefits of Mentorship
  • (17:41) - Different Types of Mentorship
  • (29:23) - Personal Experiences with Mentorship
  • (39:43) - The Power of Visibility
  • (45:44) - The Impact of Affirmation and Mirror Neurons
  • (48:45) - Personal Mentorship Stories
  • (52:34) - Finding and Asking for Mentorship
  • (01:07:14) - Gender Dynamics in Mentorship
  • (01:13:45) - Conclusion and Call to Action

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She Counts 21 May 202500:57:39

Nancy McClelland and Questian Telka introduce their new podcast dedicated to women in accounting, sharing their unconventional paths into the profession and the friendship that sparked this project. They discuss their mission to create an authentic community where women can share challenges and triumphs without filtering, preview over 50 future topics they've accumulated over two years, and explain how their "conversational chemistry" transformed casual chats into a platform for collective wisdom. Through personal stories about struggles with confidence, education, and finding community, they establish that this isn't about preaching solutions, but creating a space where everyone's voice counts.


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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (01:07) - The Importance of Community
  • (04:00) - Why We Started This Podcast
  • (09:29) - Podcast Structure and Topics
  • (15:46) - Guest Appearances and Listener Engagement
  • (21:09) - What This Podcast Will Not Be
  • (24:43) - Hosts' Backgrounds and Journey
  • (29:54) - A Transformational Move to Chicago
  • (35:01) - A Non-Traditional Path to Success
  • (45:51) - The Importance of Mentorship
  • (49:27) - A Life-Changing Birth and New Perspectives
  • (53:04) - The Power of Nonprofit Work
  • (54:41) - The Genesis of the Podcast
  • (01:01:12) - Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes

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Space to Serve Well: The Beauty of Boundaries16 Jul 202500:52:54

Recorded live at Scaling New Heights, Nayo Carter-Gray shares her hard-won wisdom on setting client boundaries, and her frustration in receiving a scathing one-star review that turned into a teaching moment. From effective communication skills, to tools such as using answering services and shared email inboxes, to crafting the perfect out-of-office message and managing client expectations through education… she reveals how clear strategies and proactive systems create better client relationships, not damaged ones. You'll learn why "no" is a complete sentence and discover practical tools to protect your time without the guilt.

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  • (00:00) - Introduction and Welcome
  • (01:34) - First In-Person Podcast and Guest Introduction
  • (02:03) - Episode Topic: The Beauty of Boundaries
  • (03:29) - Nayo's One Star Review Story
  • (07:02) - Setting Boundaries in Client Relationships
  • (13:42) - Automation and Client Communication
  • (25:16) - Effective Communication Strategies
  • (28:19) - Team Communication and Client Management
  • (29:12) - Shared Email Inboxes and Tools
  • (30:10) - Setting Realistic Expectations
  • (31:29) - Time Management Techniques
  • (33:52) - Importance of Personal Time
  • (35:58) - Proactive Communication and Boundaries
  • (38:22) - Email Management Strategies
  • (49:16) - Acknowledgements and Closing Remarks

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Do It Anyway02 Jul 202501:06:47

Nancy and Questian dive deep into the difference between fearlessness and courage, sharing vulnerable stories: about becoming a dancer at age 40, speaking to a room of hundreds of people, and starting their own businesses. They explore why saying "don't be afraid" misses the point—true courage isn't the absence of fear, but choosing to act despite it. From imposter syndrome to asking for money, they discuss the specific fears women in accounting face and offer practical tools, such as: affirmations; breaking down scary tasks; remembering your “why”; and borrowing confidence from mentors.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts: Today's Topic: Courage and Overcoming Fear
  • (01:26) - Nancy's Story: Dancing at 40
  • (06:48) - Questian's Story: Improv Class Challenge
  • (13:24) - Facing Public Speaking Fears
  • (19:21) - The Importance of Vulnerability
  • (26:44) - Balancing Family and Career
  • (32:02) - Challenges of Running Your Own Firm
  • (35:16) - Embracing Fear and Doing It Anyway
  • (39:53) - Overcoming Fear of Heights: Skydiving Story
  • (42:54) - The Power of Training and Facing Fears
  • (47:10) - Affirmations and Tools for Facing Fear
  • (55:47) - The Importance of Community and Mentorship
  • (01:02:36) - Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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Second Season Kickoff Celebration, Recorded Live at Bridging the Gap22 Oct 202501:09:00

Nancy and Questian record live from the Bridging the Gap conference, with audience Q&A moderated by Erin Pohan. They share raw, unfiltered answers about jealousy between friends, the shame of being called "too much," body image struggles across the spectrum, and why imposter syndrome might not be a syndrome at all. From tears to belly laughs, this celebration of Season Two proves that putting yourself out there publicly is messy, terrifying, and absolutely worth it.


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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (02:28) - Season 2 Kickoff
  • (08:24) - Erin's Story and Bridging the Gap
  • (12:34) - The Challenges of Podcasting
  • (18:37) - The Impact of She Counts Podcast
  • (22:53) - Navigating Public Vulnerability
  • (32:28) - Balancing Collaboration and Competition
  • (39:26) - Building Relationships at Conferences
  • (40:11) - Facing the Fear of Networking
  • (40:35) - The Importance of Curiosity
  • (42:01) - Dealing with Burnout
  • (45:38) - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
  • (56:48) - Body Image and Professional Life
  • (01:09:50) - Shifting Mindsets and Self-Belief
  • (01:12:21) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Designed Without Us08 Oct 202501:12:04

Twyla Verhelst joins Nancy and Questian to explore why women accountants are slower to adopt AI and why that matters more than you might think. From biological risk aversion to the "cheating" stigma, Twyla unpacks the unique barriers women face with technology while revealing how every prompt we enter (or don't enter) is actively training these tools. If we don't take our seats at the AI table now, we're allowing these transformative technologies to be designed without our input, our communication style, and our needs in mind.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts Podcast
  • (03:42) - Twyla's Journey with AI
  • (06:38) - Challenges Women Face with Technology
  • (19:37) - The Importance of Women's Input in AI
  • (27:19) - Real-World Examples of Gender Bias in Tech
  • (35:26) - Encouragement and Tips for Women in AI
  • (41:41) - The Value and Risks of AI Tools
  • (42:04) - Women and Technology Adoption
  • (44:35) - Learning in Community
  • (49:28) - Practical Uses of AI
  • (52:12) - The Importance of Communication
  • (57:31) - Meeting Transcripts and Note-Taking
  • (01:02:24) - Fun and Practical AI Applications
  • (01:05:44) - Twyla's Role in AI Education
  • (01:07:25) - Conclusion and Resources

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Amplifying Women Who Count: The Wave of Women’s Conferences Shaping Accounting24 Sep 202501:00:15

Nancy and Questian sit down with three powerhouse conference organizers who are reshaping the accounting event landscape: Sharrin Fuller (AFWA Women Who Count), Erin Pohan (WAVE Conference), and Madeline Reeves (Advisory Amplified tour). These women discuss pricing psychology shaped by wage gaps, navigating traditional gender roles as primary breadwinners, and why smaller, women-led conferences create space for vulnerability and real connection that larger industry events often miss. The conversation explores everything from the loneliness of firm ownership to getting a seat at the table without being labeled "emotional," and highlights three of the most important educational opportunities of the year.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (01:55) - Meet the Powerhouse Women
  • (04:55) - Nancy and Questian's First Meeting Story and Conferences
  • (08:55) - Spotlight on Wave Conference
  • (09:58) - Spotlight on Women Who Count Conference
  • (12:39) - Spotlight on Advisory Amplified Tour
  • (21:09) - Unique Aspects of Each Conference
  • (25:24) - Community and Collaboration
  • (30:00) - Expanding the Event Beyond the Day
  • (37:22) - Vendor Involvement in Conferences
  • (43:56) - Challenges and Misconceptions in Women-Led Conferences
  • (48:42) - The Importance of Women-Led Conferences
  • (56:40) - Topics Women in Accounting Want to Discuss
  • (01:01:43) - The Impact of Women's Conferences
  • (01:03:02) - Conclusion and Call to Action

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Build The Business You Really Want10 Sep 202501:02:23

Justine Lackey thought she wanted to build a million-dollar bookkeeping firm – until she recognized the roadmap to get there was literally causing her physical pain. She realized that chasing revenue without building systems creates a "runaway bus" business, and rebuilt her company to harness sustainable growth and serve clients better. She shares the difference between vertical growth (more clients, more money) and lateral growth (better processes, stronger foundation) and reveals the mindset shift that helped her see her firm as a sellable asset… and why she now teaches other women to define success on their own terms.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (02:58) - The Accidental Virtual Bookkeeper
  • (05:38) - Learning What You Actually Want
  • (08:08) - The Biggest Mistakes: Lack of Clarity and External Pressure
  • (12:08) - The Road to 3 Million and Physical Pain
  • (16:38) - Ethical Leadership and Hard Conversations
  • (21:02) - Client Relationships and Being Nice
  • (25:12) - Lateral Growth vs Vertical Growth
  • (30:52) - What Happens When You Skip the Foundation
  • (36:13) - Every Firm Owner Wants Help
  • (40:13) - Technology as People: Finding Your Fit
  • (46:13) - Building an Asset You Can Sell
  • (53:10) - The Modern Firm Challenge
  • (58:50) - Where to Find Justine and Final Thoughts

Resources:
  • Justine Lackey on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinelackey/
  • The Modern Firm Challenge with Justine Lackey
    • Redesign How You Work, Think, and Earn With This 5-Day, High-Touch Guided Experience September 15th - September 20th, 1-2pm ET on Zoom 
    •  Register here - justinelackey.com/register
      • Day One The 5-Star Client Experience - Systemize the 4 steps to pristine, polished bookkeeping no matter what your client’s business is, or what their books look like
      •  Day Two Client Onboarding Secrets - My secrets for getting every client started on the right foot so they pay, stay, and do things YOUR way
         Day Three The Month-End Close Workflow - Learn to nail your month-end deadlines so you can stress less, and earn more.
      •  Day Four Pricing Confidence – Discover how to raise your rates without fear, attract clients who respect your value, and talk about pricing with ease.
      •  Day Five  YOUR Business Breakthrough LIVE – Bring your top business challenge for rapid-fire 1:1 coaching. PLUS, discover my Two-Minute Tool to crush overwhelm and create a clear, step-by-step action plan—no matter what you’re facing.

  • ‘Ask a CPA’ free “Bookkeeper’s Guide to Annual Reviews” - https://www.thedancingaccountant.com/bookkeepers-guide-to-annual-reviews/
  • Melissa Miller-Furgeson: “Defining & Attracting YOUR Ideal Client” - https://youtu.be/3TQl5jpGYjk?si=4c9pf3YOQCPjUGnz&t=989
  • “Built to Sell: Creating a Business That Can Thrive Without You” by John Warrillow - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10075698-built-to-sell


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Still Under Glass27 Aug 202500:57:31

The accounting profession starts with gender parity… but ends with a massive leadership gap – and the discrepancy has nothing to do with either talent or capability. This episode examines the structural issues that cause firms to lose women mid-career, from unconscious bias in performance reviews to assumptions about working mothers. Nancy and Questian break down the research on interruption patterns, pay disparities, and the "motherhood penalty," then offer concrete ways leaders can create more equitable pathways to partnership.

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  • (00:00) - Introduction and Episode Overview
  • (01:18) - The Gender Gap in Accounting Leadership
  • (02:46) - Challenges Women Face in the Workplace
  • (07:41) - Personal Stories and Experiences
  • (11:35) - Addressing Unconscious Bias
  • (22:38) - Actionable Solutions for Change
  • (30:25) - A Friend's Struggle and Workplace Flexibility
  • (31:13) - The Pay Cut and Its Long-Term Impact
  • (32:58) - The Importance of Flexibility in the Workplace
  • (34:48) - Luma Accounting: A Solution for Flexible Work
  • (36:57) - Closing the Gender Pay Gap
  • (39:00) - Transparency in Compensation
  • (42:01) - Negotiation Challenges for Women
  • (46:03) - Client Assignments and Competence
  • (46:55) - Training and Support for Business Growth
  • (49:29) - Addressing Microaggressions and Bias
  • (54:05) - Intentional Leadership and Cultural Change
  • (55:33) - Final Thoughts and Call to Action

Resources

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The Elevation of Empathy13 Aug 202501:02:52

Dawn Brolin, CPA, CFE and author of "The Elevation of Empathy," shares her raw story of surviving a toxic partnership where she endured cruel comments about her weight and appearance, and how that shaped her perspective on leading with empathy. Through personal examples including her own leadership failures at work and lessons from her time as a softball coach, Dawn reveals how empathy can be cultivated, practiced, and wielded as a strategic advantage. The conversation tackles the unique challenges women face when leading with empathy, the emotional labor often expected of female managers, and why caring for others doesn't make you weak – but does make you dangerous to systems built on indifference.

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  • (00:00) - Introduction & Welcome
  • (01:28) - Meet Dawn Brolin - The Designated Motivator
  • (02:28) - What Motivated the Book
  • (04:28) - Partnership Pain
  • (07:28) - Learning From Bad Examples
  • (11:28) - Unconditional Love, Conditional Involvement
  • (14:28) - How to Address Lack of Empathy in Others
  • (16:28) - Empathy Can Be Learned
  • (24:35) - Dawn's Leadership Fail - The Softball Story
  • (28:35) - Tools for Building Empathy - Practice Mindfulness
  • (37:27) - Asking for Feedback as a Leader
  • (41:57) - Validation vs. Solutions
  • (43:57) - Women Penalized for Empathy at Work
  • (45:57) - Managing Team Wellbeing - The Extra Load
  • (54:54) - "I Hurt and I Keep Going"
  • (59:51) - Vulnerability as Strength Panel
  • (01:01:51) - Give and Accept Empathy
  • (01:06:51) - Closing Quote

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Don’t Call Me Darlin’30 Jul 202501:09:44

Nicole Davis, Forbes Top 200 CPA and CEO of Conscious Accounting, shares her journey from being called "darling" in client meetings to becoming a force who dominates every room she enters. She candidly offers advice on how to feel like you own a room… that wasn’t “built” with you in mind. She reveals how true power isn't about titles or corner offices, it's about owning your story and making others accept who you are on your terms. Nicole discusses why women are uniquely positioned to lead the AI revolution in accounting, the critical difference between mentorship and sponsorship, and how showing up as your authentic self gives others permission to do the same.


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  • (00:00) - Introduction and Episode Overview
  • (01:19) - Meet Our Guest: Nicole Davis
  • (03:01) - The Story Behind 'Don't Call Me Darling'
  • (05:25) - Defining Dominance and Power
  • (11:32) - Representation and Role Models
  • (19:04) - Breaking Barriers in Male-Dominated Fields
  • (26:12) - Proving Yourself and Gaining Respect
  • (36:59) - Maintaining Leadership Identity
  • (37:47) - Balancing Warmth and Firmness
  • (39:57) - Flying Your Freak Flag
  • (42:47) - Embracing AI in the Workplace
  • (49:42) - Women and Tech: A Perfect Match
  • (01:02:16) - The Power of Sponsorship
  • (01:07:17) - Final Thoughts and Farewell

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Fabulous Nicole Davis quotes:

"I used to do things to prove others wrong, but now I do things to prove myself right."
"Authenticity is your permission slip."
“Flying your freak flag is like broadcasting your wifi – others will get your signal!”
"Mentors guide but sponsors vouch."


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Marking Ourselves Down: Gender Disparity in Pricing19 Nov 202501:16:15

Candy Bellau joins Nancy and Questian to discuss a problem that costs women accountants thousands of dollars every year: underpricing. The conversation covers why women tend to charge 25-50% less than men for the same work, how compassionate pricing and relationship loyalty keep us trapped in unsustainable business models, and what changed when Candy discovered male colleagues were quoting double her rates despite having less expertise. The three dive into practical solutions, including reframing value-based pricing, building community support around fee conversations, and remembering that sustainable pricing is not only about personal profit, but also about taking care of your team.


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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (00:55) - Introducing Today's Topic and Guest
  • (01:38) - Personal Challenges and Support
  • (04:24) - Kandy's Story: Overcoming Hardships
  • (08:55) - The Turning Point: Changing Pricing Strategies
  • (12:57) - The Impact of Underpricing
  • (35:57) - Steps to Address Gender Disparities in Pricing
  • (41:37) - Balancing Personal Life and Business
  • (42:33) - Empowering Employees
  • (48:01) - No Margin, No Mission
  • (51:04) - Addressing Gender Disparities in Pricing
  • (56:01) - Building Confidence in Pricing
  • (59:20) - Practical Solutions for Better Pricing
  • (01:12:42) - Final Thoughts and Takeaways

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Start With “NO”: Exploring the Power of Acting with Intention05 Nov 202500:56:33

Most professionals treat "yes" as their default setting, then spend their lives playing catch-up. Brandy Jordan joins us to help reframe "no" as a necessary operating system for strategic decision-making rather than a personal failure. The discussion covers the planning fallacy, why self-abandonment is unsustainable leadership, and how starting with no actually leads to better, more intentional “yes” decisions.



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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (00:52) - Meet Brandy Jordan: The Power of Starting with No
  • (01:53) - The Genesis of She Counts Podcast
  • (05:36) - Personal Experiences with Saying No
  • (09:45) - The Importance of Prioritizing and Setting Boundaries
  • (17:30) - Practical Tips for Saying No
  • (32:01) - Reflecting on the Importance of Pausing
  • (32:29) - Overcoming the Fear of Saying No
  • (34:46) - Personal Boundaries and Work-Life Balance
  • (39:55) - The Planning Fallacy and Time Management
  • (47:53) - Encouraging a 'Start with No' Mindset in Teams
  • (53:32) - Final Thoughts and Takeaways

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Imposter, Interrupted03 Dec 202501:00:31

When nearly everyone in the room raises their hand to admit they experience imposter syndrome… it's time to stop calling it a “syndrome”. Questian and Nancy explore why this near-universal feeling shows up differently for high-achieving women in accounting—who, for various reasons, often push through it more slowly than men—examining the systemic and social roots that reinforce it. They share personal stories of feeling unqualified despite clear evidence to the contrary, and offer practical frameworks for recognizing, reframing, and finding relief from these persistent self-limiting beliefs.


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  • (00:00) - Introduction and Episode Overview
  • (01:06) - Personal Stories and Experiences with Imposter Syndrome
  • (03:37) - Defining and Debunking Imposter Syndrome
  • (11:44) - Strategies to Overcome Imposter Syndrome
  • (24:38) - The Broader Impact and Social Context
  • (28:06) - Understanding Extroverts and Introverts
  • (28:28) - Overperforming to Prove Yourself
  • (30:29) - The Realization of Knowledge Gaps
  • (32:02) - Roots of Imposter Syndrome
  • (32:34) - Gender Expectations and Workplace Dynamics
  • (33:55) - Personal Stories of Imposter Syndrome
  • (36:37) - The Impact of Social and Structural Norms
  • (40:02) - Self-Limiting Beliefs and Career Impact
  • (42:28) - Intersectionality and Imposter Syndrome
  • (47:47) - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
  • (51:01) - Recognize, Reframe, and Relief
  • (55:12) - Tracking Success and Setting Metrics
  • (58:15) - Coping Mechanisms and Final Thoughts

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The Big “D”: Divorce - Radical Acceptance and Rebuilding in Real Time22 Apr 202601:06:37

When Questian read through 31 pages of divorce paperwork and added it to her Ta-Da List (see Ep. 25), it cracked open a conversation she and Nancy had been circling for a while. This episode gets honest about navigating divorce while running a business and raising kids — what it means to grieve something you chose, and why relief and devastation aren't mutually exclusive. They dig into radical acceptance, the DBT concept that two opposing truths can coexist, and what it looks like to keep showing up professionally while your personal life is in freefall.


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  • (00:00) - Welcome and Sponsors
  • (00:36) - Season Three Kickoff
  • (01:41) - Episode Theme Divorce
  • (02:43) - Gold Star Story
  • (06:43) - Radical Acceptance Explained
  • (09:58) - Breadwinner Fears
  • (14:41) - Ambition and Support
  • (17:24) - Co Parenting Reality
  • (20:11) - Radical Acceptance Exercise
  • (25:53) - Vulnerability in Public
  • (31:25) - Career Crossroads Ahead
  • (34:33) - Missing a Sounding Board
  • (36:33) - Control vs No Control
  • (39:16) - Painful Necessary Moves
  • (40:36) - Accepting the Unacceptable
  • (42:53) - Rebuilding Mid Crisis
  • (49:53) - Security Resilience Network
  • (54:57) - Worst Case Distress Tolerance
  • (59:18) - Practical Takeaways Optionality
  • (01:02:17) - Self Care and Support
  • (01:04:38) - Wrap Up Quote and Callouts

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Ta-Da! Celebrate the Little Things (They’re Actually Big)08 Apr 202601:02:50

Questian and Nancy close out Season Two with Valerie Heckman, Accountant Community Manager at OnPay, and a deceptively simple idea: the “Ta-Da!” list. Instead of measuring your day by what’s left undone, what if you kept track of what you actually did? Valerie shares how this practice helped her interrupt burnout, why women in accounting are especially prone to dismissing their own wins, and how sharing those moments with others can change the culture of your firm. Although a Ta-Da list isn’t a cure-all, it is an effective tool that can shift how you end your day, how you see your work, and how you show up for each other. Because the little things? They're actually the big things.


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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (01:11) - Season Finale Setup
  • (01:42) - Valerie Joins the Show
  • (02:33) - Diploma Text Story
  • (06:11) - What Is a TODA List
  • (08:33) - Try Your Own TODA
  • (12:07) - Sharing Small Wins
  • (14:50) - Beyond To Do Lists
  • (17:56) - Burnout and Measuring Days
  • (21:23) - Why We Skip Self Credit
  • (27:29) - Making Wins a Habit
  • (29:04) - Spreading TODA to Others
  • (31:13) - Start Meetings With Wins
  • (32:13) - How The Practice Changed Me
  • (33:07) - Spotting Missing Priorities
  • (36:50) - Less To Dos More Ta Das
  • (39:46) - Eliminate Automate Delegate
  • (43:00) - Track And Share Progress
  • (49:38) - Gold Stars For Grownups
  • (53:16) - Takeaways For Overwhelm
  • (58:20) - Homework And Community Challenge
  • (01:00:15) - Closing Quote And Sign Off

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Tell Me You’re A Woman In Accounting25 Mar 202601:02:24

It's Questian's birthday, and your hosts are celebrating with the most creative gift they could think of: a crowdsourced collection of "You know you're a woman in accounting when..." moments from their community. From conference survival strategies to scheduling babies around busy season, the hosts laugh, vent, and commiserate over the absurdities of life in this profession. Plus, a bonus visit from Nancy's best friend Shawn Simmons, who joins Nancy and Questian to share her sabbatical project using graphic design and fiber arts to build community around women's menopause journeys.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome and Sponsors
  • (02:29) - Why We Needed Laughs
  • (03:20) - Community Shoutouts and Messages
  • (05:00) - Turning 44 Past Your Prime
  • (08:25) - Conference Packing and Swag
  • (12:10) - Costumes and Hotel Room Chaos
  • (23:07) - Planning Life Around Busy Season
  • (26:22) - Pregnant in a Blizzard Work Story
  • (27:31) - January Tears and Quitting Thoughts
  • (28:48) - January Time Warp
  • (30:32) - Hormones And Hot Flashes
  • (31:52) - Menopause Community Mission
  • (34:02) - Meet Shawn Simmons
  • (34:57) - Sabbatical Research Deep Dive
  • (39:22) - Survey And How To Help
  • (43:52) - Woman In Accounting When
  • (47:28) - Funny And Painful Truths
  • (53:39) - Flash Mob Accountant Story
  • (58:27) - Birthday Wishes And Wrap Up

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Credit Where Due: The Hidden Cost of “Borrowed” Ideas 11 Mar 202601:17:07

After one of Nancy's slide decks recently turned up in someone else's presentation without her name or her invitation, she and Questian decided to dig into the many forms plagiarism takes in professional life. From blatant reuse of materials to the murkier territory of borrowed ideas, they explore why credit tends to drift toward higher-status voices; what the research says about how this affects women differently; and why speaking up — for yourself and for each other — is the most important thing you can do about it.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (02:48) - Slides Reused Story
  • (06:00) - Calling It Out Live
  • (09:34) - Email Response Process Failure
  • (12:06) - Why Credit Matters
  • (18:20) - Matilda Effect Explained
  • (23:38) - Status and Authority Bias
  • (30:16) - Coop Conference Credit Theft
  • (42:26) - Social Sanctioning Fear
  • (48:51) - Plagiarism Gray Areasp
  • (57:17) - Convergent Evolution Explained
  • (01:07:29) - Source Confusion Science
  • (01:13:25) - Allyship and Amplification
  • (01:14:22) - Reflective Questions Wrap
  • (01:15:14) - Final Call and Quote

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Pancakes, Power Suits & Personal Autonomy: What Women Wear at Work Isn’t the Problem 25 Feb 202601:06:01

When an Ernst & Young seminar told female executives that women's brains absorb information like pancakes soak up syrup, as opposed to retaining information like men, whose brains are more like waffles, it made headlines — and it still stings. Nancy and Questian dig into why sexist trainings on topics like women's clothing and appearance remain a workplace issue in accounting, from vague dress code language to the cognitive toll of constant self-monitoring. The conversation gets personal, gets real, and ends with a three-question self-test that has nothing to do with what anyone else thinks.


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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (01:16) - Why Women’s Clothes Are Still Policed at Work
  • (02:14) - The Resurfaced EY Workshop: ‘Power Presence and Purpose’
  • (04:04) - Pancakes vs. Waffles: The Absurd ‘Brain’ Analogy
  • (05:34) - Masculine/Feminine Scorecards & Stereotypes in Leadership
  • (08:01) - ‘Sexuality Scrambles the Brain’: Dress Codes Start Young
  • (10:16) - Polished, Don’t Ramble, Don’t Confront: Behavior Rules for Women
  • (13:35) - Shifting Responsibility + A Real Conference Story
  • (16:58) - When Attire Really Is a Safety Issue (Rail Yard Example)
  • (20:09) - Accountability & Research: Fines, Reviews, and Lookism Today
  • (25:58) - The ‘Attractive Accountant’ Comment: Why ‘Just Take It as a Compliment’ Fails
  • (29:15) - Blending In vs. Being Yourself: Power Suits, Color, and the Double Bind
  • (30:39) - Finding Your Style Again: The Necklace Story & Owning Your Presence
  • (33:59) - Dressing for Alignment: Quieting Self-Doubt So You Can Focus
  • (35:06) - Objectification Theory: How Body Monitoring Hurts Performance
  • (37:49) - The Double Standard: Why Women Overthink Outfits (and Men Don’t)
  • (40:53) - Dress Codes & the ‘Emotional Tax’ (Especially for Women of Color)
  • (42:08) - Pantyhose Rules and Other Outdated Policies: Real-World Stories
  • (45:24) - Gender-Neutral Policies vs. Reality: Redefining Professionalism
  • (49:58) - Culture Fit Matters: When a Suit Makes Clients Trust You Less
  • (54:12) - From Appearance to Function: How Allies Can Redirect the Conversation
  • (56:10) - What to Do If You’re Unsure What to Wear: Mentors, HR, and Clarity
  • (01:01:23) - Practical Self-Test + Closing Challenge to Rethink Dress Codes

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When There’s No App for What You Need: Building the Tool You Wish You Had11 Feb 202601:09:21

Judie McCarthy's team was spending a third of their time chasing down information—then one of her biggest clients called in tears, completely overwhelmed by the constant requests. Judie joins Questian and Nancy to share why that moment launched her from bookkeeper to tech founder. She talks through juggling two full-time jobs for years, selling her 25-year practice to the lowest bidder (and why that was the right call), and why the fear of regret turned out to be stronger than every other fear she had about building something new.

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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (02:13) - The Birth of Client Hub
  • (09:38) - Transitioning from Practice to Tech
  • (16:24) - Selling the Practice
  • (23:38) - Building and Vetting a Software Idea
  • (35:27) - The Importance of Listening in Leadership
  • (36:59) - Building Client-Centric Tech Products
  • (39:46) - Keeping It Simple: Focus on Core Features
  • (42:47) - Challenges and Triumphs of Women in Tech
  • (55:01) - The Power of Partnerships and Community
  • (01:02:02) - Advice for Aspiring Female Founders

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 Unmuted: Turning Down the Self-Doubt, Turning Up the Volume28 Jan 202601:02:15

Questian and Nancy sit down with Misty Megia of the Theatre of Public Speaking to explore why women so often stay muted—in meetings, on stages, and in their own heads. They unpack the roots of negative self-talk, why we're so much harsher on ourselves than we'd ever be with a friend, and how to bridge the gap between knowing something logically and feeling it emotionally. Misty shares specific techniques for moving past self-doubt and making self-promotion feel authentic instead of performative.


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  • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
  • (02:12) - Misty's Inspirational Story
  • (05:42) - The Concept of Unmuting
  • (12:31) - Overcoming Self-Doubt and Negative Self-Talk
  • (16:40) - Practical Tips for Building Confidence
  • (32:25) - Reflecting on Childhood and Self-Doubt
  • (34:27) - Navigating the Challenges of Self-Promotion
  • (41:20) - The Importance of Community and Support
  • (47:00) - Learning from Men: Authentic Self-Promotion
  • (53:25) - Upcoming Programs and Opportunities

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LIVE from Women Who Count, Part Two14 Jan 202600:56:02

Recorded live at AFWA’s Women Who Count Conference, Questian and Nancy are joined by employment attorney Kami Hoskins and HR leader Julie Thiel for an unflinching conversation about sexual harassment in accounting. From boundary-crossing “jokes” and unwanted physical contact to explicit quid pro quo threats, this panel breaks down how harassment actually shows up at work… and why it’s so often minimized, misread, or missed entirely in the moment. They pull back the curtain on what really happens when HR gets involved, why silence is often mistaken for professionalism, and how power dynamics shape who is believed and who is protected. This is Part Two of a two-part live recording examining how workplace culture enables harm—and what it takes to change it.


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  • (00:00) - Introduction and Overview
  • (01:32) - Addressing Harassment Beyond the Workplace
  • (02:32) - Handling Client Harassment
  • (03:39) - Building HR Resources for Small Firms
  • (04:26) - The Role of Supervisors in Reporting
  • (06:04) - Legal Recourse and External Resources
  • (08:37) - Strategies for Employees to Resist Harassment
  • (21:35) - Creating a Culture of Accountability and Respect
  • (30:20) - Using Data to Assess Organizational Culture
  • (31:31) - Audience Q&A Begins
  • (33:42) - The Importance of Tone from the Top
  • (36:27) - Handling Sensitive Situations in Volunteer Organizations
  • (39:34) - Addressing Sexual Harassment in the Workplace
  • (49:53) - Rapid Fire Q&A
  • (53:09) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Resources
  • Slide Deck - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EVkM2HbslFIqWXhDHWxkgYpmtk_0ZG0lJ9yE-DgdNdw/

    Live Audience’s Mentimeter Word Cloud
    - https://photos.app.goo.gl/jh2d42QmRRZwKL9R7

    AFWA Women Who Count Conference - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/

    Kami Hoskins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kami-hoskins-132aaa2a/ - creates and implements effective solutions for employers navigating complex labor and employment law issues, providing meticulous defense in state and federal courts as well as before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, National Labor Relations Board, and the Arizona Attorney General’s Office.She advises employers on employment policies and handbooks, performance management, accommodations, reductions in force, and workplace investigations. She negotiates and drafts employment-related agreements, including non-competition, non-solicitation, and confidentiality agreements. She also has extensive experience leading employment practices trainings for attorneys, HR professionals, and managers.

    In addition to her labor and employment practice, Kami advises businesses on sustainability and ESG strategies, including sustainability disclosures under relevant regulatory frameworks, greenhouse gas goal setting, DEI programs, and social impact programs. With a strong capacity for high-stakes, people-centered work and a decisive, detail-oriented approach to problem-solving, Kami’s dynamic practice also includes commercial litigation and business reorganization matters.

    Kami has been a volunteer with the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Valley since 2012 and a member of the Executive Committee since 2019. On Saturday mornings, you can find Kami volunteering with the Arizona Humane Society.

    Julie Thiel
    - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliemthiel/ - helps professional services firms transform high-turnover environments into talent magnets. With 30+ years in HR leadership, Julie implements her proven, practical retention framework to reduce costly turnover in accounting, engineering, and IT organizations. She combines expertise in emotional intelligence and retention strategy to deliver practical solutions that leaders can implement immediately. Julie has presented at APWA Minnesota, Dakota County Chamber of Commerce, School Nutrition Association, and the University of Minnesota Carlson School of Business. Her audiences praise her relatable style and actionable insights that transform retention challenges into strategic advantages.


    Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
    https://www.eeoc.gov/data/sexual-harassment-our-nations-workplaces

    Women in the Workplace 2024 - https://leanin.org/women-in-the-workplace

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LIVE from Women Who Count, Part One31 Dec 202500:55:59

Recorded live at AFWA’s Women Who Count Conference, Questian and Nancy are joined by employment attorney Kami Hoskins and HR leader Julie Thiel for an unflinching conversation about sexual harassment in accounting. From boundary-crossing “jokes” and unwanted physical contact to explicit quid pro quo threats, this panel breaks down how harassment actually shows up at work… and why it’s so often minimized, misread, or missed entirely in the moment. They pull back the curtain on what really happens when HR gets involved, why silence is often mistaken for professionalism, and how power dynamics shape who is believed and who is protected. This is Part One of a two-part live recording examining how workplace culture enables harm—and what it takes to change it.



Sponsors
Forwardly - https://www.forwardly.com/shecounts
Relay- https://relayfi.com/shecounts
Client Hub - https://www.clienthub.app/lp/shecounts


  • (00:00) - Introduction and Overview
  • (01:20) - Live Recording at Women Who Count Conference
  • (02:47) - Meet the Experts: Kami Hoskins and Julie Thiel
  • (04:26) - Trigger Warnings and Disclaimers
  • (06:12) - Poll Results and Audience Reactions
  • (09:17) - Personal Stories of Harassment
  • (20:57) - Types of Sexual Harassment
  • (27:05) - Addressing Discomfort in the Workplace
  • (27:20) - The HR Investigation Process
  • (32:47) - Handling Unwelcome Behavior
  • (34:34) - The Role of HR in Resolving Issues
  • (36:33) - Understanding Sexual Harassment Statistics
  • (39:03) - Retaliation Concerns and Protections
  • (43:50) - The Importance of Employer Policies
  • (47:58) - HR's Dual Role: Protecting Company and Employees
  • (52:47) - The Costs of Sexual Harassment Allegations
  • (54:13) - Conclusion and Next Steps

Resources

Slide Deck

- https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EVkM2HbslFIqWXhDHWxkgYpmtk_0ZG0lJ9yE-DgdNdw/

Live Audience’s Mentimeter Word Cloud - https://photos.app.goo.gl/jh2d42QmRRZwKL9R7


AFWA Women Who Count Conference - https://www.afwa.org/women-who-count/


  • Kami Hoskins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kami-hoskins-132aaa2a/ - creates and implements effective solutions for employers navigating complex labor and employment law issues, providing meticulous defense in state and federal courts as well as before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, National Labor Relations Board, and the Arizona Attorney General’s Office.She advises employers on employment policies and handbooks, performance management, accommodations, reductions in force, and workplace investigations. She negotiates and drafts employment-related agreements, including non-competition, non-solicitation, and confidentiality agreements. She also has extensive experience leading employment practices trainings for attorneys, HR professionals, and managers.

    In addition to her labor and employment practice, Kami advises businesses on sustainability and ESG strategies, including sustainability disclosures under relevant regulatory frameworks, greenhouse gas goal setting, DEI programs, and social impact programs. With a strong capacity for high-stakes, people-centered work and a decisive, detail-oriented approach to problem-solving, Kami’s dynamic practice also includes commercial litigation and business reorganization matters.

    Kami has been a volunteer with the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Valley since 2012 and a member of the Executive Committee since 2019. On Saturday mornings, you can find Kami volunteering with the Arizona Humane Society.

    Julie Thiel
    - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliemthiel/ - helps professional services firms transform high-turnover environments into talent magnets. With 30+ years in HR leadership, Julie implements her proven, practical retention framework to reduce costly turnover in accounting, engineering, and IT organizations. She combines expertise in emotional intelligence and retention strategy to deliver practical solutions that leaders can implement immediately. Julie has presented at APWA Minnesota, Dakota County Chamber of Commerce, School Nutrition Association, and the University of Minnesota Carlson School of Business. Her audiences praise her relatable style and actionable insights that transform retention challenges into strategic advantages.


    Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
    https://www.eeoc.gov/data/sexual-harassment-our-nations-workplaces

    Women in the Workplace 2024 - https://leanin.org/women-in-the-workplace

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ADHD: Chaos With a Side of Brilliance17 Dec 202501:11:17

Two accountants with ADHD (and one who’s got lots of questions) get real about what it's like when your brain won't filter information, when 30 minutes turns into either 3 hours or 3 minutes, and when opening your email derails your entire day. Jina Etienne joins Questian and Nancy to discuss early- vs later-in-life diagnosis; the exhaustion of masking symptoms for decades; the superpowers inherent in ADHD; and why women in accounting are finally putting words to experiences they've had their whole lives. If you’ve wondered about ADHD in accounting… yet all your resources are male, this is the episode for you.

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  • (00:00) - Introduction and Episode Overview
  • (00:51) - Meet Our Guest: Jina Etienne
  • (05:25) - Personal Stories of ADHD Diagnosis
  • (08:15) - Understanding ADHD in Women
  • (11:27) - Challenges and Misconceptions
  • (19:42) - Masking Behaviors and Functional Freeze
  • (30:59) - The Impact of Late Diagnosis
  • (37:38) - Navigating Social Cues
  • (38:42) - Communication Styles with My Husband
  • (44:59) - Understanding Time Blindness
  • (48:36) - Managing ADHD with Tools and Strategies
  • (59:32) - The Power of Hyperfocus
  • (01:03:12) - Embracing ADHD Superpowers
  • (01:05:15) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Resources

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Why Brilliant Bookkeepers Undervalue Themselves06 May 202601:01:35

In a special crossover episode with the Unofficial QuickBooks Accountants Podcast, Nancy and Questian are joined by Alicia Katz Pollock to dig into why so many technically skilled bookkeepers struggle to charge what they're worth — and what it takes to bridge the gap between expertise and authority. Alicia gets candid about her own discomfort with pricing, using a real business pivot as a window into the self-doubt that holds back even the most accomplished practitioners.


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Karbon - https://karbonhq.com/


  • (00:00) - Crossover Welcome
  • (01:11) - Meet the Hosts
  • (03:37) - Why Bookkeepers Undervalue
  • (04:17) - Alicia’s Wake Up Call
  • (08:38) - Brenda Success Story
  • (12:31) - Losing Trained Talent
  • (18:05) - Scaling the Incubator
  • (23:13) - Pricing and Training Model
  • (27:37) - Hiring Employees Reality
  • (29:49) - Building Full Program Stack
  • (30:36) - Building Support Systems
  • (31:42) - Pricing the Incubator
  • (34:35) - Perks and Discounts
  • (35:18) - Scholarships and Payment Plans
  • (36:26) - Charging What Youre Worth
  • (40:42) - Pilot Program Uncertainty
  • (42:30) - Scaling for an Exit
  • (46:04) - Owning Authority
  • (48:30) - Experts Mantra Shift
  • (56:44) - Do It Anyway
  • (59:11) - Wrap Up and Takeaways

Resources

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