This is a podcast about stepping out of line, challenging the norms of schooling, recentering the child, and letting go of control for control’s sake. Whether you’re schooling, unschooling, deschooling, or homeschooling, this podcast is for you.
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Annie Friday is joined by Latoya Nelson of Raising Resilience this week in a very candid conversation about what school choice - and really just a wider array of options for education could look like - can mean for families undervalued by the conventional public school system. Latoya shares more specifically on the opportunities that school choice can create for some Black families. This episode was recorded back in October 2024 and is part 1 of a two-part conversation on the radical vision of what education can look like without schools as we know them today.
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0078 A Classroom Meltdown
mardi 18 mars 2025 • Durée 58:44
Neuro-affirming Behavior Consultant and Life Coach Megg Thompson joins Annie Friday this week to share more about her experiences working with young people. Megg brings her humor and candor to this conversation on the feedback she received when sharing about a child who had a meltdown in the classroom. Spoiler alert: the feedback was harsh, exclusive, and not neuro-affirming and the hardest part was that so much of it came from inside the classroom. Megg and Annie share why it is so critical for our schools, classrooms, and learning centers to make space for all learners and all brains.
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0077 Where Ya Been
mardi 11 mars 2025 • Durée 18:56
Annie Friday is back to share more of her family's personal unschooling experience. In this episode, Annie catches listeners up on where she has been the last six months or so. She touches on some of what is to come in this season including burnout, the state of education system, some personal narratives from other unschoolers including youth voices. Annie also explains that while the title of the podcast originally stood for the literal experience of getting out of line by leaving the school system, a major focus of the show has become all the many ways parents, educators, and caregivers have expectations of young people that are really out of line with what we know to be neurologically and developmentally supportive for them. This short episode tees up all that is to come in this next season of Out of Line.
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0076 Unschooling From The Start
mercredi 2 octobre 2024 • Durée 01:17:14
This episode brings youth rights advocates, Flying Squad facilitators, and unschooling parents Bria Bloom, Alex Khost, and Annie Friday together in conversation about what a self-directed lifestyle can look like in a child's earliest stages of life. Bria was raised in a life without school and is currently unschooling in partnership with a teenager and toddler at home. Alex has been unschooling with four kids for the last 18+ years, currently covering ages spanning from teenagers to toddler. The conversation explores how as adults guiding the lives of young people, we can intentionally include them in our family life, safeguard their rights, and support their curiosities. They discuss the work of the adult which includes bringing awareness to your own inner monologue, anxieties, and pace of life in order to communicate vales and culture to your children. Alex and Bria share personal stories of real life struggles that come up and how they navigate those moments while honoring the personhood and humanity of their child. Find more on Alex Khost and Bria Bloom through the FlyingSquads.org website and the Alliance for Self-Directed Education at self-directed.org
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0075 NeuroAffirming Behavior Support
mercredi 25 septembre 2024 • Durée 54:00
Annie Friday is joined this week by Megg Thompson, Behavior Consultant, Coach, Speaker, and Youth Advocate. Megg shares the importance of behavioral support that is centered on caring, playful, and respectful relationships in order to affirm all neurotypes. Megg has seen firsthand Positive Behavioral Interventions and Support (PBIS) fail many young people leaving them to feel like they are a problem. PBIS is a program used by thousands of schools across the US. While employing reward-based intervention strategies can show positive results for some kids, many others are left out of the "fun." Even those who may be considered successful in PBIS, long-term damage of pressure, anxiety, and perfectionism can build over time. Seeing young people repeatedly broken down by school behavior plans, Megg centers her own work on supporting and empowering young people and families through education, information, and hands-on support. Find more about Megg with 2 Gs at MeggThompson.com where she has more information and resources for young people, their families, and educators in both convention and unconventional learning environments.
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0074 Starting With Community
mercredi 18 septembre 2024 • Durée 49:32
Cassidy Younghans runs Wild Roots Learning Community in North Texas and shares with Annie Friday more about her experiences in self-directed education and building learning communities. Through some moments of failure, overwhelm, and leaving the school system, Cassidy realized that building a strong network of supportive community must come first when building a new school. Authentic community takes time creating trust, aligning values, appreciating differences. Cassidy talks about the realities and challenges that inherently come with opening a learning center. Cassidy has offerings for parents, facilitators, and young people on her website CassidyYounghans.com
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0073 Reveries and Reflections on Unschooling
mercredi 11 septembre 2024 • Durée 42:40
Adrienne Miller joins Annie Friday this week to discuss her unschooling family life. Adrienne shares on the logistics of the choices, privileges and sacrifices that shape her family's path. By leading with relationships, opting for a slower lifestyle, and centering community, Adrienne lives out her values with intention. Adrienne explains more on how she sees unschooling as a pathway to collective liberation by reimagining what learning and life can look like for all families. Find homeschooling and unschooling resources and coaching options by Adrienne on her website, Instagram account, and through her new podcast all at TheseReveries.com or @these_reveries.
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0072 Schooling And The American Dream
mardi 13 août 2024 • Durée 36:42
Author, mother, healthcare aid, and former SDE facilitator Meaza Love joins Annie Friday to discuss how the American Dream has come to affect US schooling. Meaza talks about the limits to creativity, originality, and divergent thinking as schools push young people to one right answer, one career pathway, one specific end point that maybe doesn't even exist. This conversations touches on the original intent of the term American Dream which was first coined during the Great Depression in 1931 by James Truslow Adams, historian and author. Adams thought believed in a dream that would allow every American to achieve their fullest capabilities "regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position," according to Wikipedia. Meaza shares recent discoveries for her regarding unschooling and the lifestyle of self-directed education (SDE). She sees SDE as a pathway alternative to school that would potentially help preserve her own child's unique and creative ways of being in the world. While the world has been shifting greatly since the model of schooling was put in place, schools themselves have not changed much. Together, Annie and Meaza dream aloud about how the system of schooling could shift to adapt to the lifestyles of today by centering relationship skills, critical thinking, and creative processes. These days, with AI and robots, we no longer need to train students to be good factory line workers. By adapting schools to honor individuality and personhood, could we shift back to that original intent of the American dream?
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0071 Untiger Your Self
mardi 6 août 2024 • Durée 31:44
Iris Chen joins Annie Friday this week to share more about how choosing to unschool opened her up in surprising and radical ways to begin imagining the world without punitive, oppressive systems. Through her work as a parent educator, coach, and collaborator, Iris helps others find connection and community as they bring more consciousness into their family life. While Iris' coaching is available to all, she has tailored some of her programming to meet the specific needs of Asian femmes who are working out a unique type of generational healing. These are humans who may have grown up with the stereotypical tiger parenting style first brought to public attention by Amy Chua in her book back in 2011. Iris, along with Yunzhe Zhou, will be presenting a new offering called Untiger Your Self so that others may find strength and connection as they un-tiger their self-knowledge, self-compassion, and self-advocacy in order to re-pattern ways of being in relationship with family.Learn more about Iris Chen and her work as an author, coach, and visionary on Instagram @Untigering or head to her website by the same name where you can find her books and more on her coaching services and workshops.
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Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
OOL_0070 Finding Ourselves Through Lifelong Learning
mardi 30 juillet 2024 • Durée 37:28
Annie Friday is joined this week by Kristen Peterson (soon to be Kristen Day), play advocate, educator, trainer, speaker, author, and a true play queen! Kristen shares how discovering play changed her trajectory forever. Play was also the catalyst for her family's decision to re-prioritize how they were spending their time. By living in attunement with her kids' needs and her own passions, Kristen has developed a lifestyle of lifelong learning in her family. This has included homeschooling, unschooling, and conventional schooling. Kristen shares how this type of interest-based learning breaks the school mold and allows for critical thinking and deep engagement. Kristen aims to reach parents, educators, and caregivers with the message that school should not juts be something to survive. By creating access to true, authentic play, kids and adults can shine in their own individual strengths.Keep your eye out for Kristen's content-rich resources, workshops, classes, and new book coming out soon called I'm Not Getting Them Ready for Kindergarten: Breaking tradition in early childhood education
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Links
Share a comment or ask a questionSupport the show (and save 10%) when you shop early learning trainings at Explorations Early LearningVisit the show archives to browse and search all episodesMore AnnieMore CandisVisit Blue Bridge School's website or Instagram
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