Explorez tous les épisodes du podcast My .4 Cents
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| Why Is Everyone Mad At Distrokid? | 17 Oct 2026 | 00:54:53 | |
This week on the pod we talk about the issues Distrokid is facing, how to get played on the radio and when not to drop. Then Matt interviews Dan Carucci about Tipify! Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How To Spy On Superstars Ads! | 09 Oct 2026 | 00:51:51 | |
This week on the pod we’re talking about the potential death of user playlists on Spotify and how Qobuz and Spotify technically pay the exact same rate. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Can Rock Bands Still Make It? | 02 Oct 2026 | 00:49:11 | |
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| Did Spotify Secretly End AI Music? | 25 Sep 2026 | 01:17:20 | |
Andrew Southworth and Dustin Boyer explore how Spotify secretly crushed AI music, and the Ed Sheeran drama. Plus Andrew interviews the founder of SubmitHub, Jason Grishkoff, where they talk about where SubmitHub fits in your music marketing stack, how they recently banned AI music from the platform and his advice for emerging artists. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Is Stella Lefty Ruining The Music Business? | 18 Sep 2026 | 01:02:25 | |
This week on the pod we ask if Stella Lefty is ruining the music business, what the big problems are with music tech and Matt interviews Steve of Does it Doom about gear endorsements! It's a good one! Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Should You Make Music Videos? | 10 Sep 2026 | 01:06:59 | |
This week on the pod we ask if music videos are even worth it - and if you should book your own festival! We also have the good folks at Music Ally about the hard work they do as a music industry trade publication. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Music Marketing with $0 vs $10k+ | 04 Sep 2026 | 01:11:19 | |
In this episode of My Point 4 Cents Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon and Rom Villarica talk about how music marketing changes from $0 to $10k and how marketing changes at different stages of your career. This episode also features an interview with Jason Lekberg where he talks about marketing and strategy for artists like Steel Panther and Gwar. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Catalog Acquisition And DIY Music! (With Joe Nelson of Trust Records) | 31 Aug 2026 | 01:17:20 | |
We have Joe Nelson on the show to talk about his label Trust Records, catalog acquisition, packaging and DIY music. Andrew interviews Tim Weber, the founder of Groupd, where they talk about how artists should think about monetization, why most artists struggle with fan retention and how Groupd can help. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Artist Development and AI Music Legislation With John Strohm | 21 Aug 2026 | 01:08:10 | |
Music Lawyer John Strohm joins the podcast this week with semi regular co host Ryan Schutte and Matt Bacon to talk about what artist development means, his success managing Abigail Rose and the future of AI Music Legislation! Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How To Tour Better + Lessons from Australia's Music Scene! | 18 Aug 2026 | 01:15:34 | |
This week on My .4 Cents we have special guest Raechel Whitchurch and talk tour booking and marketing, Australian music industry and so much more! Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How streaming platforms ACTUALLY pay & What NOT to post on socials | 31 Jul 2026 | 01:01:03 | |
This week on My Point 4 Cents, Andrew Southworth and Matt Bacon talk about how streaming platforms actually pay music artists, what NOT to post on social media as well as where music artists should run ads online. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How Musicians Can Grow On Instagram & The DistroKid Sale | 24 Jul 2026 | 01:07:51 | |
This week on My Point 4 Cents Matt Bacon and Andrew Southworth talk about what actually matters for organic content on Instagram, DistroKid getting acquired by a private equity company and how Playstation getting rid of physical discs matters for the music industry. The episode also features an interview with Troy Tittley (Nuns of the Tundra) where we talk about organic growth strategies for TikTok and other platforms, including which tactics and platforms work best right now for music artists. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How to go From Zero to Hit Song | 10 Jul 2026 | 01:24:42 | |
This week on My Point 4 Cents Dustin Boyer and Andrew Southworth talk about what it takes to scale a song to be a 'hit song', and Tidal now automatically flagging and demonetizing 100% AI generated music. The episode also features an interview with legendary agent Jordan Burger, where he talks about why he doesn't want to sign your band. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Jordan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jo2thabu Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How The Live Music World ACTUALLY Works | 04 Jul 2026 | 01:18:54 | |
In this weeks episode of My Point 4 Cents, Andrew Southworth, Ryan Schutte and Matt Bacon talk about the different roles in live music, general concert promo and the drama around Stick Figure. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Spotify's NEW Video Feature & How To See If AI Stole Your Music | 25 Jun 2026 | 00:49:46 | |
In this episode of My Point 4 Cents Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon and Andrew Southworth talk about Spotify's new video feature, and the new tool that you can use to see if AI platforms stole your music for training data. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents See if your music was stolen for AI training: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/06/dataset-free-music-archive/687336/ Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Social Media Is DYING?! | 04 Jun 2026 | 00:58:18 | |
This week on My Point 4 Cents Matt Bacon, Andrew Southworth and Dustin Boyer give as much music marketing advice as they can in under 1 minute, talk about why you shouldn't ask people to listen to your music, how to build lore around your music and if cover songs help or hurt your music career. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Spotify NEW AI Remix Feature and the END of Instagram Repost Pages | 29 May 2026 | 01:17:02 | |
On this week's episode of My .4 Cents Dustin Boyer, Ryan Schutte, Andrew Southworth and Matt Bacon talk about Spotify & UMG's new AI remix / cover feature and the death of repost pages on Instagram. The episode also features an interview with Jadd Shickler (Blues Funeral Recordings, Magnetic Eye Records) talking about what record labels are looking for, the role of the label in 2026 and what it takes to build a scene. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| What Meta Ad Campaigns ACTUALLY Work For Music Marketing? | 22 May 2026 | 01:20:31 | |
This week on My Point 4 Cents Matt Bacon and Andrew Southworth talk all about running Meta ads for music marketing. Including effective cheap ads, what content works best and the different types of campaigns that work for music. The episode also features an interview with Rom Villarica (AZKAL), the founder of Flowstage, a site and app that makes it easy for music artists to create content for social media and ads at scale. Become A Member To Get All Of Our Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpveuOJ074aUY09YfIQHz0Q/join Find My .4 Cents On Your Favorite Podcast App And Subscribe Here https://beacons.ai/mypoint4cents Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Millennial vs Gen Z Music Marketing | 15 May 2026 | 01:13:56 | |
This week on My .4 Cents Matt Bacon, Izzy Guti, Dustin Boyer and Andrew Southworth talk about millennial vs gen z marketing and CharliXCX's new song rollout, Megan Trainor's branding switch and blue dot fever. The episode also features an interview with Mark Jourdian of Good Harbor who runs a management company working with artists like boygenius, Father John Misty, Mitski and more. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Spotify's NEW Artist Verification System | 08 May 2026 | 01:29:14 | |
In this week's episode Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer and Grayson Flatness talk about Spotify's new artist verification system (and it's problems), as well as Grayson's 360 artist creative agency NBHD. The episode also features an interview with Simon and Luke of Chapters Music, who have produced music for Olivia Rodrigo, Madonna, Gabbie Hanna, Carpenters and many more. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Great Music vs Great Marketing (what's more important?) | 24 Apr 2026 | 01:16:02 | |
In this week's episode of My .4 Cents Matt Bacon, Stevie Red McMinn, Andrew Southworth and Dustin Boyer talk about if great music beats great marketing, and the continued drama behind Chaotic Good Projects and their marketing of Geese. The episode also features an interview between Matt Bacon and Kyle Weber of Indie on the Move where they talk about how indie artists can plan shows and tours. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Music Marketing with 1,000+ TikTok Accounts?! | 17 Apr 2026 | 01:22:26 | |
In this week's episode of My .4 Cents Dustin Boyer, Alex Bochel, Matt Bacon and Andrew Southworth talk about Justin Biebers game changing Coachella performance, organic content vs Meta ads and Chaotic Good Projects crazy fan page / theme page TikTok marketing strategy. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How Linkin Park Leveraged Community Building feat. Rob McDermott | 10 Apr 2026 | 01:02:42 | |
This week on My .4 Cents Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon and Jesse Cannon chat with Rob McDermott about what it was like managing Linkin Park during their first several albums, and how they grew through community building activities and street teams. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Spotify Artist Profile Protection & Chappell Roan Fake Drama feat. GameboyJones | 03 Apr 2026 | 01:14:46 | |
This week on My Point Four Cents, Andrew Southworth, Jesse Cannon and Dustin Boyer talk about Spotify's new artist profile protection feature and how Chappell Roan's recent drama may have been manufactured as a publicity stunt.The episode also features an interview with GameboyJones where they talk about microgenres and how he made his music go viral. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Apple Music Launches AI Disclosure Tags | 26 Mar 2026 | 00:50:11 | |
This week on My Point Four Cents, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer and Matt Bacon talk about how Apple Music is adding AI disclosure tags and how China is now the 4th largest streaming country on Earth. The episode also features an interview wtih John McEntee of Incantation where they talk about the music touring landscape today and how its changed over time. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Why Labels Care More About Super Fans Than Virality | 19 Mar 2026 | 01:22:00 | |
This week on My Point Four Cents, Dustin Boyer, Maddie Elyse, Andrew Southworth and Matt Bacon talk about how labels are no longer chasing TikTok virality, but instead focusing on super fans, and how to avoid getting scammed by artist and label service companies. The episode also features an interview with Sam Duboff, the Global Head of Marketing & Policy at Spotify, where he talks about how Spotify actually pays artists, how the 1,000 stream threshold works, the 2026 Loud&Clear report and more. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Spotify Is The Highest Paying DSP Now? | 12 Mar 2026 | 01:19:23 | |
This week on My Point Four Cents, Matt Bacon, Dustin Boyer, Ryan Schutte and Andrew Southworth talk about Live Nation settling their anti-trust case and Spotify's 2026 Loud&Clear report. The episode features an interview with Morgoth Beatz to talk about his journey from playing guitar in metal bands to producing for artists like Juice WRLD and Machine Gun Kelly. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| The Death of Spotify and Music Streaming? | 05 Mar 2026 | 01:12:49 | |
This week on My Point Four Cents, Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon and Dustin Boyer talk about a statement from Jimmy Iovine and article from Joel Gouveia that music streaming services are 'minutes away from being obsolete', how Suno users don't listen to music like normal people and some changes happening to the podcast. This episode features an interview with Eyal Levi (founder of URM Academy, Riffhard and guitarist of DAATH) where he discusses how music artists can succeed and how the industry has changed over time. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Why TuneCore Is Paying Artists Late & AI Music Hell | 24 Feb 2026 | 01:17:06 | |
This week on My Point Four Cents, Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon and Jesse Cannon have a wide-ranging conversation sparked by Adam Neely’s latest video on AI music, Suno, and what it all could mean for musicians, creativity, and the future of the industry, along with updates on host changes and a rotating fourth chair while Jesse dives deeper into filming his documentary Why There’s No Money in Music. The episode also features an interview with Dave Cool (formerly of Bandzoogle, now at GigSalad) about a lucrative, often-overlooked way musicians can earn meaningful side income through private and corporate gigs, before the group breaks down growing concerns around distributors—especially TuneCore—delaying royalty payouts, plus additional discussion on live music, virtual performances, and the shifting economics of releasing music today. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Distrokid Is For Sale! Is This Good For Musicians? | 17 Feb 2026 | 01:10:59 | |
In this episode of My Point Four Cents, Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, Matt Bacon, and Andrew Southworth dive deep into the recent news that music distribution giant DistroKid is apparently up for sale. The crew explores whether this could mean notorious customer service improvements, unpacks why user support has become so problematic across various distribution platforms, and how profitability and automation may be influencing decision-making at the top. Jesse shares his conversation with Joshua Redbeard, the influential host of Short, Fast, Loud, and co-founder of Grayscale and Ninth Life Records, illuminating how passion and punk rock ethics shaped his journey from underage DJ to respected label head and radio voice. They also delve into how storytelling shapes artist marketing, the role of online comments in algorithm growth, what it really takes to start and run a record label, and how both human interaction and data-driven tactics are influencing modern music exposure in 2024. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Is Spotify Really Making A Music Middle Class? | 10 Feb 2026 | 01:00:26 | |
Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon discuss Spotify's colossal payouts to artists. As the conversation unfolds, they explore the intricacies of label deals and the reality behind Spotify's royalty distribution, offering insight into how record deals might impact earnings. The team also shares dos and don’ts in marketing, dispelling misconceptions around the effectiveness of certain strategies like influencer campaigns and pre-saves. Guest Maddie Elyse of Shark Attack and 19 Entertainment joins the discussion, shedding light on artist development post-reality shows like American Idol. The episode provides an intriguing blend of industry secrets and marketing truths, giving listeners a well-rounded understanding of what truly drives success in music today. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| TikTokPocalypse Is Threads The Winner? | 03 Feb 2026 | 01:06:24 | |
Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon discuss the aftermath of TikTok's challenging week and its impact on content reach. The discussion delves into how artists are responding to changes in TikTok's algorithm and shifting their focus to platforms like Instagram and Threads. Jesse dives deep into an engaging interview with Chris Dalariva, the author of "Uncharted Territory," exploring the history and evolution of Billboard charts, the concept of hits being 'rigged,' and how music has transformed over decades. The conversation also touches on Anna's Archive, a site that controversially scraped Spotify's data, leading to massive legal actions against it. The hosts ponder the implications of technology on music preservation and the broader cultural importance of archiving media, drawing parallels with other industries like gaming. The episode examines the delicate balance between the open web ideals and the realities of copyright and intellectual property. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Is TikTok Over For Musicians? | 27 Jan 2026 | 00:56:27 | |
In this episode, Jesse Cannon, Matt Bacon, Dustin Boyer and guest Ryan Schutte talk about the implications of TikTok's transition to American ownership, highlighting the onset of censorship and algorithm changes. The discussion explores the confusion and frustration among creators due to shadow banning and restricted content visibility, suggesting the platform's recent actions could potentially alienate its user base. The conversation shifts to an interview with Johnny Fiaconi, shedding light on the thriving opportunities within the cover band scene, particularly for his band, The Dreamboats. Fiaconi discusses the stigmas and economic opportunities in playing cover music, showcasing how it's become a viable career path filled with lucrative gigs. Finally, the hosts discuss strategies for touring profitably, emphasizing the importance of meticulous planning and maximizing opportunities in local markets, such as targeting college campuses and making efficient use of flyer distribution. Throughout, they stress the significance of engagement and strategic targeting to build a successful career, despite ever-changing social media landscapes and touring challenges. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| LIVE FROM NAMM: Answering Musicians Marketing Questions!!! | 25 Jan 2026 | 01:20:56 | |
In this special episode filmed live at NAMM, the team talks with a wide range of attendees and musicians about music promotion, branding, and the evolving landscape of social media marketing for artists. Topics include growing email and SMS lists, balancing creative authenticity with engaging content, pitching for sponsorships, running effective ad campaigns on small budgets, and building a standout image in a band. The discussion also touches on how artists can leverage their DIY roots, navigate the challenges of ads that underperform, and find their niche audience. With insights from real artists and experts in various aspects of music marketing, the episode is packed with actionable advice and behind-the-scenes perspectives from some of the industry’s sharpest minds. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Spotify Launches Stories, Social Listening & More | 13 Jan 2026 | 01:12:53 | |
Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, and Dustin Boyer delve into a variety of topics surrounding the music industry, particularly focusing on innovations at Spotify and the integration of AI in marketing and music production. They discuss Spotify's new features like listening activity and the controversial "about the song" feature, which pulls third-party data to enhance song information. The episode also features an interview with Howard Bullows, an AI marketing professional and independent artist, who shares insights into how AI is revolutionizing the music creation process. Howard highlights the impact and ethics of AI tools in both the marketing and content creation arenas, giving listeners a glimpse into the future of music production. The hosts ponder on ageism in the music industry, discussing how age can influence a musician's career trajectory but emphasizing the potential for success at any age, especially with today's digital reach. They encourage musicians of all demographics to persevere despite the industry's often narrow standards and discuss how the rise of platforms like TikTok has democratized music discovery. Overall, the episode offers a comprehensive view of current trends and challenges in the music scene, imbued with a forward-looking perspective on technology's role in the arts. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Music Marketing 2026: Insider Predictions! | 06 Jan 2026 | 00:54:10 | |
Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, Matt Bacon, and Jesse Cannon kick off the new year by diving into the controversial subject of Drake's alleged involvement in a RICO case, touching on issues of illegal gambling, money laundering, and the ethics of stream manipulation. The conversation then shifts to predictive insights for music marketing strategies in 2026, exploring potential shifts in content trends towards more authentic and raw video formats. Behind a membership barrier, an exclusive discussion unfolds, covering Spotify's Discovery Mode and its new video feature's implications for artists. Excitingly, they announce their upcoming tour, emphasizing the community-building aspect of their live events, where musicians can connect, share experiences, and foster collaborations. Additionally, the panelists delve into the socio-economic impacts on the festival industry, AI music's rising influence, and the ongoing debate surrounding Spotify's role and reputation in the music streaming landscape. A lively discussion resonates with thoughts on the evolving dynamics of the music world, hinting at both challenges and opportunities in the ever-changing industry. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How Black Veil Brides Built Their Fanbase | 30 Dec 2025 | 00:47:28 | |
In this candid interview, Blasko, formerly associated with iconic acts like Ozzy Osbourne and Rob Zombie, shares his dynamic journey through the music industry, beginning with his early inspiration from Kiss. Starting in 1985, he transitioned from aspiring drummer to bassist, joining bands like Cryptic Slaughter in his teenage years, and later making significant strides with Rob Zombie and Ozzy Osbourne. Beyond performing, Blasko delves into the business side of music, co-founding a management company handling artists such as Black Veil Brides and Zakk Wylde. His career highlights the importance of authenticity, audience connection, and adaptability in navigating the ever-evolving music landscape. Blasko also recounts how his involvement with Liquid Death water brand parallels his music ethos, emphasizing that both endeavors are driven by authenticity and resonating with audiences. His perspective underscores the necessity for bands to cultivate a genuine connection with their audience, viewing fans as part of a community rather than mere consumers. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| The Secrets Of Boosting Your Spotify Algortihm w/ Luke Mansell | 23 Dec 2025 | 00:26:51 | |
In this interview, Luke Mansell, the creator of Music Stacks—a platform known for being a vital resource for musicians—dives into the intricacies of his creation. Music Stacks presents Spotify data in a user-friendly manner, providing insights like the key, tempo, and energy levels of songs, and tracking the popular Spotify popularity score. Luke explains his initial motivation behind the platform's creation, citing the lack of ads and quality user experience as key differentiators. Over time, the platform evolved to include Music Stacks Metrics, allowing users to track their music's popularity score history and examine the impact of marketing efforts. A notable feature is its ability to integrate across various social and music platforms, which helps artists understand their reach across different audiences. The conversation also touches on usage trends and how artists are harnessing social media to amplify their Spotify presence. Through Music Stacks, users can access invaluable data to strategize their music releases effectively and stay agile in the fast-paced music industry. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How Soon Do Artists Make Money On Their Music | 16 Dec 2025 | 01:18:23 | |
In this podcast episode, music marketing experts Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, Matt Bacon, and Andrew Southworth dive into the challenges artists face when attempting to make a profit in the music industry. They analyze the effectiveness of various strategies, such as streaming, direct-to-fan sales, and the use of social media, while emphasizing the importance of consistency and experimentation. The conversation highlights the necessity for artists to understand their audience, adapt to rapidly changing algorithms, and find creative ways to promote their music without relying solely on traditional methods. With input from music marketing platform founder Giovanni Bottan, the discussion underscores the complexities of achieving financial success in music and the importance of evaluating return on investment for marketing efforts. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| 2025's Biggest Change In Music Marketing | 09 Dec 2025 | 01:02:58 | |
Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, Jesse Cannon, and Matt Bacon discuss artist branding and the influence of Spotify Wrapped's new features. The conversation unfolds around vintage music marketer Rob Gross, who shares insights from his extensive experience working with legendary artists like Black Sabbath and The Rolling Stones. The hosts explore the significance of artist individuality, authenticity, and innovative brand positioning, using examples such as Addison Rae's development from a run-of-the-mill pop star to a unique musical persona. By highlighting the intersection of marketing strategies, audience engagement, and personal growth, the episode dives deep into cultivating a distinct presence in the music industry. Plus, the group discusses Spotify's recent updates and their implications for users, touching upon the platform's annual Wrapped feature and its role in connecting listeners with their musical interests. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How Unknown Artists Chart On Billboard | 02 Dec 2025 | 01:12:02 | |
In this episode, Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and guest host Olivia Pierce discuss Patreon and the resurgence of artists cultivating communities through apps, emphasizing how these platforms can offer authentic engagement and sustainable income. Then, Dustin Boyer interviews Nashville-based independent artist Ben Schuller, who has successfully built his career on his own terms. Schuller shares insights into how he capitalizes on unconventional routes such as YouTube covers and Nerdcore to make music his full-time occupation. The conversation then shifts to exploring the tactics some groups use to game the Billboard charts, exemplified by a campaign aimed at rallying people to collaboratively create an album and propel it to the top spot, highlighting flaws in chart metrics. Finally, the episode discusses the advantages of artist independence and the evolving music business landscape, questioning traditional industry methods and advocating for innovative approaches for musicians to connect with their audiences. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| DIY Tour Booking Secrets Revealed! | 25 Nov 2025 | 00:59:28 | |
Hosts Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon, alongside guest co-host Ryan Schutte, talk about the evolving landscape of the music industry. They begin with insights from Ryan Schutte, a booking agent at Forthright Booking, focusing on the challenges and strategies surrounding DIY tour booking and fostering local and regional music scenes to capture the attention of bigger agents. The episode then shifts to an enlightening interview with Jeff Betton and Matt Dowling from Hellbender Vinyl, who discuss the enduring relevance of vinyl records as a tangible connection to music, emphasizing their role despite the dominance of digital streams. A spirited debate follows on the implications of the UK's legislative move to cap ticket resale prices—a step seen as a necessary measure to curb exploitative practices in ticketing markets. The hosts dive into the broader impacts of digital versus traditional music formats and underscore the importance of data-driven strategies for artists aiming to grow their presence in the increasingly interconnected music ecosystem. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Spotify's Huge Update For Musicians w/ Ryan Slone | 18 Nov 2025 | 01:09:40 | |
Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, and Dustin Boyer tackle various shifts and trends in the music industry, particularly focusing on Spotify's recent introduction of video features in the American market and alterations to the Shuffle function. Highlighting the skepticism among American users accustomed to more static interfaces, the hosts humorously delve into their experiences with video availability on platforms like YouTube Music. The conversation pivots to the implications of adding videos to Spotify and how it might transform user engagement. The team discusses the challenges Spotify faces, such as maintaining an authentic shuffle experience amid accusations of biased algorithms favoring major labels. Simultaneously, the podcast brings attention to a chat with Ryan Slone, a veteran booking agent, providing artists insights into securing effective representation in the industry. The show navigates through evolving content strategies on TikTok and Instagram, illustrating the shifting paradigms in digital consumption and the necessity for artists to recalibrate their approaches in an ever-dynamic digital realm. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Artists Need Three Accounts On Every Social Platform!?!? w/ RamonPang | 11 Nov 2025 | 01:12:16 | |
In this episode, hosts Dustin Boyer, Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon, and Jesse Cannon discuss innovative strategies for music promotion and the implications of AI in the music industry. They dive into the effectiveness of utilizing multiple social media accounts to maintain a professional image while engaging in aggressive promotion and fan interaction. An interview with IDM-electronic artist RamonPang explores his approach to blending music creation with educational content and the unique experience of performing at a no-phone DJ set. The conversation also touches on an AI artist's controversial rise in the country music charts, sparking debate about the ethics and future of AI-generated content in music. Additionally, the hosts examine the credibility of bot-driven success and its potential degradation of artistry, alongside insights on successful influencer marketing tactics and the importance of community in establishing a musician's reputation. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How To Grow A Music Artist In 30 Days w/ Rod Yancy | 04 Nov 2025 | 01:01:28 | |
Hosts Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, Andrew Southworth, and Matt Bacon engage in a deep dive discussion on optimizing an artist's reach, aiming to significantly increase their audience in just 30 days. They explore strategies for building a compelling narrative that resonates with audiences and the importance of leveraging collaborations to gain visibility in the music industry. The conversation also touches on the challenges hip-hop artists face in breaking through a saturated market, emphasizing the importance of originality. Additionally, Matt Bacon interviews Rod Yancy from Bootleg, highlighting the innovative service that allows fans to purchase live concert recordings, thereby creating a unique collectible and revenue stream for artists. This integration of technology and music fandom presents a modern approach to enhancing fan experience by allowing them to relive concert memories. The episode concludes with discussions on shifting music chart dynamics, reflecting cultural trends and the evolution of genre perceptions. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Why Musicians Are All Talking About Group 7 w/ C.J. Blessum | 28 Oct 2025 | 01:04:40 | |
In this episode, Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, and Andrew Southworth explore diverse topics on how musicians can optimize their income through unconventional methods. They discuss creative strategies such as niche marketing, limited edition merchandise, and effective use of publishing rights to maximize revenue. The group discusses the merits of incorporating innovative platforms like Shopify and Bandcamp for handling merchandise and music sales. The episode also highlights an interview with C.J. Blessum, founder of A Thousand Arms, who shares insights on supporting indie artists through screen printing and design services, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, community building, and embracing new revenue streams in the ever-evolving music industry. Amid their banter, the hosts also touch on recent viral content strategies on platforms like TikTok, underscoring the unpredictable nature of digital media virality and the need for artists to be adaptive and creative in their marketing endeavors. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| How Sombr's Marketing Fan Hate w/ Todd White | 21 Oct 2025 | 01:10:03 | |
In this episode, hosts Andrew Southworth, Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon delve into various aspects of the music industry, discussing how musicians earn money through different income streams such as merch, touring, and streaming. The conversation features an insightful interview with Todd White, owner of King Volume Records, who shares the story of managing Castle Rat, a rising metal band, and their success on Kickstarter. The episode also addresses controversies in the industry, including negative fan reviews, and how artists like Sombur respond to criticism. They also explore the economics of touring and discuss alternative income avenues for musicians, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's audience and leveraging platforms like Patreon effectively. Additionally, they talk about the challenges artists face with venue merch cuts and the importance of artists having a grasp on how to navigate their finances and business strategies in the evolving music landscape. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| The Dark Side of Music Distribution w/ Olivia Pierce | 14 Oct 2025 | 01:13:32 | |
In this episode, hosts Jesse Cannon, Matt Bacon, and Dustin Boyer engage in a dynamic discussion with Alex Bochel, the owner of the EDM record label Spirations Music, covering the challenges and strategies of music distribution in the digital age. The conversation delves into the complexities and frustrations facing DIY musicians and label owners with distribution services, highlighting issues such as poor customer service, payout delays, and the limitations of promotional add-ons. Alex shares his experiences with different distributors, emphasizing the need for reliable service and fair royalty sharing. The episode further explores the industry insights of creative director Olivia Pierce, who works at Industry Plant, and accentuates the power of branding and consistent social media content in building an artist's career. The hosts also examine how Taylor Swift markets her music, relating her approach to broader industry trends. Throughout, the episode offers listeners a thoughtful exploration of navigating the evolving music business landscape, drawing on both expert interviews and real-world experiences. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| Did Taylor Swift's Not Market TLOASG? w/ Lee Martin | 07 Oct 2025 | 01:06:40 | |
In this episode, Dustin Boyer, Jesse Cannon, and Matt Bacon explore Taylor Swift's latest album rollout and the mixed reactions it has garnered, noting both fan loyalty and criticism, while discussing its significant cultural footprint. Highlighting fascinating marketing strategies, they feature an interview with Lee Martin, a creative marketing expert with a rich background working with artists like David Bowie and Lord Huron. The episode delves into how Lee combines programming and creativity to craft engaging fan experiences, offering insights into his ideation process and how DIY artists can implement these grand ideas without needing high-level expertise. Additionally, they address TikTok's potential changes due to political influences and its implications on social media usage. Throughout the conversation, the hosts emphasize the evolving dynamics in music marketing and social media interactions, offering a blend of industry insights and actionable advice for both artists and marketers. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||
| YouTube Beats TikTok For Music Discovery? w/ John Strohm | 30 Sep 2025 | 01:16:23 | |
In this episode, Andrew Southworth and his colleagues Matt Bacon, Dustin Boyer, and Jesse Catted explore a study revealing TikTok's limited impact on music discovery compared to YouTube and streaming platforms. They delve into the intricacies of how people discover music, discussing whether initial exposure or full engagement constitutes true discovery. The team also interviews Jon Strom, a multifaceted music industry professional, who shares insights on artist development, marketing, and the challenges faced in today's evolving music industry. He emphasizes the importance of great music and robust marketing strategies for artist success. Additionally, the episode touches on AI's role in music creation and the need for transparent licensing, while highlighting Spotify's recent efforts to address spam and AI content on their platform. Through lively discourse, the podcast provides a multidimensional view of the contemporary music landscape and the dynamics shaping artist careers. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer @dustintheindustryplant Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | |||