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Ep235 Jeff Curran BEFORE the UFC 

Jeff Curran is one of Pedro Sauer’s first black belts and his journey into the world of Mixed Martial Arts started BEFORE the first UFC. 

Jeff Curran is a coach, promoter and most importantly a fighter. 

Jeff brings us through various points in his early career that help the listeners understand why the words “locker room respect” is synonymous with his name. 

This is part 1 of a many part series featuring a true pioneer within the sport 

Ep235 Jeff Curran BEFORE the UFC 

0:00 Lytes out intro

0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction

0:43 interview start 

0:54 plugs/ promotions

1:56 entry into Jiu Jitsu 

5:46 falling out with Megaton Diaz

8:18 making an impression on MMA

9:07 starting a fight promotion

10:42 receiving black belt under Pedro Sauer

14:53 Mark Schultz

15:32 fighting NHB in high school 

17:20 hosting a seminar with Pedro Sauer

19:09 early fight career match offers

22:30 training Sam Stout and Mark Homminick

27:18 mental rivalry with Jens Pulver

29:30 Extreme Challenge 8 man Tournament 

35:51 Jeff Curran vs Jason Chambers

37:13 Jeff Curran vs Mike Halton 

40:07 getting paid $40 and a t shirt for fight 

41:30 Jeff Curran vs Sam Wells 

44:34 Jeff Curran vs Phil Johns

47:33 Jeff Curran vs Jeremy Boldt

48:22 UFC getting rid of 155 weight class 

50:05 showing respect to Chris Lytle 

52:46 promoters not wanting to kill off ticket sellers 

57:09 50 fight club members 

59:54 current fighters being afraid to lose

1:04:17 Daren Elkins Vs Pat Curran

1:06:37 Terry Martin vs Chael Sonnen 

1:08:59 trying to avoid injuries while training 

1:12:37 Jeff Curran vs Ivan Menjivar

1:17:22 getting cut from the WEC 

1:21:48 receiving a phone call from the UFC

1:24:47 Jeff Curran vs Kid Yamamoto

1:26:24 Jeff Curran vs Matt Serra 

1:29:04 career highs and lows 

1:34:33 interview wrap up 

1:40:43 outro/ final thoughts  

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Ep 234 Ben Rothwell BEFORE the IFL 

Ben Rothwell has made a name for himself fighting against some
of the worlds toughest competitors.

Rothwells path to the UFC started when he was in high school, the stories uncovered on Ben’s journey to the top is an incredible listen. 

Ep 234 Ben Rothwell BEFORE the IFL 

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:36 interview start 
0:42 plugs/ promotions 
6:23 Ben Rothwell vs Rico Rodriguez
9:27 Ben Rothwell vs Nick Bartlett
13:27 lying about age to Monte Cox
14:56 Ben Rothwell vs Pete Dellmutti
17:53 4 man tournament
23:47 Ben Rothwell vs Robert Schinkel
26:50 Danger Zone 4 man tournament
29:52 prize money for winning tournament 
33:46 promoter Chad Bergmier
34:42 Ben Rothwell vs Tim Sylvia
37:11 Monte Cox money story
40:44 Ben Rothwell vs Steve Hutson
42:39 Ben Rothwell vs Mike Marshalleck
44:18 4 man tournament to compete in Superbrawl 
49:41 Super Brawl 24 Heavyweight tournament 
56:21 Ben Rothwell vs Mike Whitehead
57:57 Mike Whitehead fist fight with Tony Fryklund
59:19 Ben Rothwell vs Travis Fulton
1:01:29 Johnathon rolling Kneebar
1:02:47 meeting Nikola Valuev
1:04:12 Ben Rothwell vs Ibragim Magomedov
1:05:36 Carlos Barreto head kick KO
1:06:15 parting ways with Dave Strasser
1:08:55 experience at the Miletich camp 
1:11:19 Duke Roufus
1:13:23 conversation with Frank Mir 
1:15:08 Ben Rothwell vs Johnathon Wiezorek
1:15:57 never being offered to compete in the Ultimate fighter
1:16:06 heavyweight training partners 
1:16:53 Tim Sylvia taunting Dan Christianson
1:19:17 outro/ final thoughts 

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Miguel Torres WEC & UFC Years 

Miguel Torres career started prior to the 135# weight division existing within the UFC. A true pioneer of the lighter weight classes Miguel Torres takes us on his journey from being in the top 3 P4P in the world to his unceremonious exit from the UFC. 

This episode is unscripted and raw and it features someone that belongs in everyone’s Hall of Fame Miguel Torres

Special Thank You to Ralph García for piecing this one together. 

Miguel Torres WEC & UFC years 

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:38 interview start 
0:42 plugs/ promotions 
2:42 current life 
3:44 process of becoming a fighter 
4:59 Miguel Torres vs Larry Pullman
7:54 being on the internet early in fight career
9:38 first instructor/ intro to Jiu Jitsu 
13:22 fathers gal bladder attack 
16:02 fighting at Finke’s Full Contact Challenge
19:17 Miguel Torres vs Jesse Gudenschwagger
23:44 Miguel Torres vs Josh Mason
27:34 Kevin Randleman sneaking him into a strip club 
28:42 meeting Carson Gracie 
32:03 Total Combat Challenge
33:19 cancelled bout with Jeff Curran
35:11 Miguel Torres vs Lindsey Durlacher
35:50 Miguel Torres vs Ryan Ackerman
39:00 Miguel Torres vs Alex Khanbabian
41:15 Carlson Gracie running into Ricardo Liborio and Marcus Silveira 
45:25 cornering Stephan Bonnar for Forrest Griffin fight 
50:28 selling tickets to events as a local fighter
51:24 being in the top 3 135 pounders 
53:40 meeting Dean Albrecht
54:36 Bodog contract 
 57:04 Miguel Torres vs Jeff Bedard
57:56 Miguel Torres vs Chase Bebe
1:00:31 Miguel Torres vs Yoshiro Maeda
1:03:52 Miguel Torres vs Many Tapia
1:05:56 meeting Kurt Pelligrino
1:07:35 taking a top 3 ranking 
1:08:50 Miguel Torres vs Brian Bowles
1:10:34 first Mexican to bring MMA to Mexico 
1:13:13 finish to Yishiro Maesa fight 
1:14:06 getting a staph infection
1:16:25 receiving 15 stitches on forehead 
1:20:30 being offered steroids and refusing 
1:22:01 making the 135lb devision popular 
1:22:50 offering to fight KID Yamamoto
1:24:56 becoming friends with Ivan Menjivar 
1:26:45 experience with Scott Adams and Reed Harris 
1:28:40 getting fired from UFC via twitter 
1:32:47 requirements to get back in the UFC
1:35:25 talking to Dana White after firing 
1:36:43 Miguel Torres vs Michael McDonald
1:40:58 getting fired after Michael McDonald fight 
1:41:19 experience with Dean Albrecht
1:43:57 rolling with Ryan Hall
1:45:03 Neil Magney story 
1:46:39 running into Jim Theobold
1:47:38 thoughts on Ray Flores
1:50:53 having an entertaining come up story  
1:51:26 plugs/ promotions 
1:52:24 self demoted from black belt 
1:53:39 interview wrap up 
1:54:34 outro/ final thoughts 

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 Francisco Bueno - Career DEEPDIVE (ep, 145)
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Brazilian Jiu Jitsu coral belt Francisco Bueno joins the #LytesOut team to talk about his fighting career, dating bck to the 1990's. Now a coach, Bueno fought MMA in the IVC and Pride back in te day and we will ask more about his times as a competing black belt.


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Pete Williams Career DEEPDIVE (ep. 144)

Lion's Den member Pete Williams sits in with the #LytesOut crew to talk about his career. As a member of Ken Shamrock's Lion's Den, Pete Williams was front row, center for many historic moments going back to the 1990's. Our Lion's Den series continues.... 



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Our Lion's Den role call continues as we are visited y Vernon White for our latest DEEPDIVE. Vernon White was there from the very beginning with the legendary Lion's Den and his carrer in MMA spans two decades and more than fifty fights. There is a lot to talk about with Vernon, buckle up.

Recorded the first week of December, 2022.

CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro 
2:15 MMA Beginnings 
4:08 Troubled Childhood 
5:30 Kicked out of the Lions Den 
7:10 Fugiwara Gumi - Ken Shamrock 7:53 Sazuki Killing Young Boy
9:20 Ken Shamrock’s childhood 
11:10 Entering the Lions Den  
15:55 Ken Shamrock & Suzuki
16:22 Takaku Fuke vs Vernon Tiger White 
17:58 The Start of Pancrase  
20:05 Pancrase 1 Locker Room
23:17 Minoru Sazuki vs Vernon Tiger White 
25:38 Katsoumi Inagaki vs Vernon Tiger White 
29:23 James Mathews Lions Den Member 
31:00 UFC 1 
34:44 Lion’s Den Attitude 
35:45 UFC 1 Match Ups 
37:20 Jens Pulver Lions Den Try Out 39:17 Original Lions Den Gym 
40:33 Pancrase vs UFC 
43:00 Ken Shamrock Missing UFC 2
44:19 Andre Van Den Oetelaar Vs Vernon Tiger White 
46:12 Masakatsu Funaki vs Vernon Tiger White 
47:30 Bas Rutten vs Vernon Tiger White 
50:45 Hammer House Saved Tito Ortiz 53:00 Tank vs Shamrock
54:26Remco Pardue vs Vernon Tiger White 
55:50 Jerry Bohlander favoritism 
59:44 Katsuomi Inagaki
59:44 Richard Saar vs Vernon Tiger White
1:00:45 UFC 3 Ken Shamrock Controversy
1:02:46 Tina Shamrock Issues 
1:06:20 Loyalty to Ken Shamrock 1:09:40 Meeting Guy Metzger 
1:10:38 Guy Metzger Initiation 
1:12:04 Steve Bruno 
1:13:12 Jerry Bohlander & Pete Williams 
1:17:30 Hell in Hawaii 
1:18:12 Struggle over Jerry Bohlander 1:20:00 Frank Shamrock Leaving Lions Den 
1:23:15 Bob Shamrock 
1:24:30 Leon Van Dijk vs Vernon Tiger White 
1:25:43 Masakatsu Funaki vs Vernon Tiger White
1:28:15 Ken Shamrock broke Leon Van Dijk
1:28:58 Mark Hall & Ken Shamrock Bathroom Fight 
1:33:35 Rail Road Track Photoshoot 
1:36:35 Social Circles in Japanese 1:37:42 Ken Shamrock Heart Attack 1:39:37 Tina Shamrock Drama 
1:41:27 Tito Ortiz / Shamrock drama 1:44:00 Bar Fight with Ken Shamrock 1:48:36  Gerald Strebent & Leg Locks 1:51:52 Gregory Smit vs Vernon Tiger White 
1:53:51 Fighting on Ecstasy
1:56:50 Frank Shamrock vs Vernon Tiger White 
2:00:07 Fake Black Belt Alex Silva Ruas
2:04:06 David Terrell vs Vernon Tiger White 
2:05:54 Crazy Bob Cook 
2:06:48 Kazuo Takahashi & Ryushi Yanagisawa
2:10:08 Shamrock & Pancrase Fall Out 2:11:06 Fake UFC Promotion - Australia 2:13:10 Sakuraba 
2:13:45 Serial Killer Cedric Marks 
2:14:35 Zane Frazier 
2:16:12 James Lee & King of the Cage 2:18:30 King of the Cage & Lions Den
2:19:18 Frank Shamrock & Crazy Bob Cook 
2:19:52 Ken Shamrock & Mark Coleman Sparring 
2:21:42 Loyalty to Ken Shamrock 
2:27:47 Wrap Up 

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Jason Knight MMA & Bare Knuckle DEEPDIVE - Episode 142 / #ufc  

Mississippi's Jason Knight is a BKFC and MMA unsung hero for sure. Jason Knight started his fighting career at just 14 yars old. After a stint in the UFC, Jason Knight turned to bare knuckle boxing, where he fought Artem Lobov in one of the most memorable marches of the modern era. And at 30 years olld, this man still has a lot to give the fighting sport.

0:00 Intro 
0:58 BKFC 5 Artem Lobov vs Jason Knight 
10:04 Special Fan 
10:58 BKFC Crowd Fight 
12:50 Hospital After BKFC 5
14:40 MMA Beginnings
17:50 Mom was a Bad Ass 
21:10 Leaving School 
23:28 Randolph Cole vs Jason Knight    
26:14 Committing to MMA  
28:17 Shilo Posarich
29:54 Fathers Life Lessons 
32:20 Fighting Adults as a Child 
34:24 Anthony Johnson vs Jason Knight 
38:10 Meeting Alan Belcher 
40:38 Approved by Alan Belchers 
42:35 Turning Pro at 17 
43:55 Shawn Hayes vs Jason Knight 
44:42 Daren Hayes vs Jason Knight 
45:19 Local Hero 
46:33 Ronald Jacobs vs Jason Knight 
48:20 Respect for the Journeyman
50:52 Fight Force International 
51:20 Jonathon Burdine vs Jason Knight 
52:18 James Rutherford vs Jason Knight   
52:31 Shawn Hayes vs Jason Knight 
54:18 Michael Roberts vs Jason Knight 
57:28 Matt McCook vs Jason Knight 
1:00:12 Prison Time & Glen Patina
1:05:25 Bradley Collins vs Jason Knight 
1:07:25 Ronald Jacobs vs Jason Knight
1:07:50 Tony Way vs Jason Knight 
1:11:12 Making it to the UFC
1:12:21 Coming from the Trailer 
1:13:50 Harry Johnson vs Jason Knight 
1:15:57 Loyal to Mississippi
1:18:40 Gilbert Burgos vs Jason Knight 
1:20:43 Jason Knight Back Tattoo 
1:23:35 Hick Diaz 
1:25:50 UFC Jim Allers vs Jason Knight 
1:25:45 Thiago Moises vs Jason Knight 
1:29:30 Bar Fight 
1:33:09 Mausa Khamanaev vs Jason Knight 
1:41:43 GoFundMe to get Off Probation
1:44:48 TUF Tryouts 
1:47:47 Call for the UFC while having a kid 
1:48:25 UFC Kawajiri vs Jason Knight 
1:52:17 Allan Belcher & Mike Sanford 
1:56:10 UFC Jim Allers Disrespect 
1:57:14 First UFC Win 
1:58:00 Understanding that I made It
 2:00:50 Training in Thailand  Boyd Clark 
2:04:25 UFC Dan Hooker vs Jason Knight 
2:08:10 Dealing with a Hostile Crowd 
2:10:24 UFC Alex Caceras vs Jason Knight 
2:11:28 UFC Chas Skelly vs Jason Knight 
2:13:07 Distractions from the Octagon 
2:16:15 ACL Issues & Life 
2:23:10 Wrap 

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Ken Shamrock Lions Den Tell -All Tony Galindo - Episode 141 / #ufc  

Ken Shamrock created the United States first super gym; Tony Galindo gives us insight into the craziness of Ken Shamrock and what took place at the Lions Den. Ken Shamrock personal life has been much guarded; this episode is explosive and somewhat controversial. Ken Shamrock as you have never heard before.

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Ken Shamrock Lion's Den Tell All - Tony Galindo DEEPDIVE (ep. 140)

0:00 Intro 
1:00 Meeting Dorian Yates 
3:30 Lion’s Den Initiation 
4:57 Issues with Guy Metzger  
7:12 Ken Shamrock Initiation 
13:20 Personality Conflicts
15:08 Hazed by Guy Metzger  
18:12 Mark Hall - Ken Shamrock Altercation 
22:26 Family & Fighting 
23:50 Teaching Kids Classes 
25:40 Ken Shamrock Marital Issues   
28:04 Ken Shamrock Trust Issues 
32:00 Training at the Lions Den 
36:07 Best Steroids for Fighting 
37:30 Supplying Ken Shamrock Drugs 
40:14 Steroids & Performance Issues 
41:00 Ken Shamrock Vs Fujita Heart Attack 
44:32 Pete Williams 
47:35 John Koppenhaver War Machine 53:32 Bob Shamrock 
59:38 Mafia MMA Dealings 
1:03:18 King of the Cage 
1:09:40 Response to Bad Ass Snoop 1:10:56 Ken Shamrock & Drugs 
1:13:42 Ripping off Ken Shamrock  1:17:38 Dedication 
1:18:10 Opiates & the Lions Den 1:20:50 Ken Shamrock Overdose 1:23:37 Rick Slaton 
1:25:12 Jerry Bohlander 
1:26:14 Steve Bruno 
1:32:00 Reto Mexico 
1:34:14 Erik Del Fierro 
1:35:44 Wade Shipp
1:36:57 Joe Hurley 
1:39:00 Mark Coleman 
1:42:07 Cedric Marks 
1:44:12 War Machine Issues 
1:47:12 Stolen Penis Pump 
1:48:28 Zach Taylor 
1:54:38 Tedd Williams 
1:55:33 Virgil Lozano 
1:59:45 Vernon White 
2:01:50 Stolen Shamrock Tapes 
2:03:58 Training at the Den 
2:07:09 Shamrock Marital Problems 2:16:00 Vernon White 
2:20:30 Partying with Ken Shamrock 2:22:10 Bouncing at Bars 
2:24:02 Kid From England 
2:28:10 Living the Lions Den Life 2:29:25 Training in Holland 
2:35:47 Wrap up 



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JAMIE VARNER - MMA Career DEEPDIVE

MMA veteran Jamie Varner joins the LytesOut Podcast to talk about his MMA career. Varner held a world title with the WEC during that organization's heyday but he always seemed to be the "B" sode during his time with the big shows. 

Varner was very open and honest in this interview, thank you for taking us through the full gamut  of stories., you are an unsung hero.

Recorded mid-November of 2022

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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro 
4:35 Carlos Ortega vs Jamie Varner 
6:35 Roland Sarria
7:28 Jesse Moreng vs Jamie Varner 
10:05 Justin Nauling vs Jamie Varner 
12:28 Roland Sarria Opportunities 
15:48 Garrett Davis vs Jamie Varner 
18:00 Drew Fickett as a Mentor 
23:50 James Upshur vs Jamie Varner
25:00 Adlan Amagov vs Jamie Varner
30:00 Classroom Changes 
33:40 Kyle Sprouse vs Jamie Varner
36:30 Weed & Shrooms 
38:49 Drew Fickett Mentality 
42:00 Jesse “Water” Bongfeldt vs Jamie Varner
46:00 Adam Roland Vs Jamie Varner
47:58 Arizona Combat Sports Rise/Fall 
51:57 Training at the MMA Lab 
53:25 Difficulty with the Lally Brothers 
58:42 Gustavo Dantes Training 
1:00:40 Training with Ryan Diaz 
1:03:53 Training Pat Runez 
1:06.30 Sparring Amanda Nunes 
1:09:20 Mercedes & Anthony Birchak 
1:11:14 Getting the UFC Call - Skipper Kelp
1:14:30 Hermes Franca vs Jamie Varner 
1:22:00 Sam Young RIP 
1:27:50 Joe Silva HATED Jamie Varner 
1:31:08 Fighters Union 
1:33:05 Training Ben Henderson 
1:34:07 Transitioning to the WEC 
1:36:20 Sherron Leggett Vs Jamie Varner 
1:39:00 Rob McCullough Vs Jamie Varner 
1:44:45 Marcus Hicks Vs Jamie Varner 
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The LOP crew interviews historian Scott Burt. Scott runs the Bare Knuckle Boxing Hall of Fame in Upstate New York and is the active President of the legendary Police Gazzette periodical.

We go deep into boxing history as we discuss the historic John L. Sullivan Vs Jake Kilrain bare knuckle boxing bout.  Sullivan trained at William Muldoon's upstate NY farm for his most famous bare knuckle fight... this one is a fight talk gem. By the way, Scott Burt calls the Muldoon gym home nowadays.

We also get Scott Burt's opinion on the modern revival of bare knuckle and how the HOF is adapting. Great fight talk for the hardcores - talk about something that deserves backing!

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