Mind The Disruption – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Many public health practitioners provide a range of supports focused on sexual and reproductive health. Listen to this episode to hear about how Dr. Saraswathi Vedam and her team at the Birth Place Lab are disrupting the status quo for reproductive health research in Canada by intentionally centring the voices and priorities of communities that are under-represented and excluded from health research. Saraswathi speaks with host Bernice Yanful about how she works with others to bring the Lab’s vision for “reproductive freedom, safety, and justice for every person” to life. 

Episode Guest: Dr. Saraswathi Vedam is Lead Investigator at the Birth Place Lab and professor of midwifery at University of British Columbia. Over 38 years, she has been a midwife, educator, parent, and researcher. Her scholarly work includes several community-based participatory action research projects on health equity. She worked with service users to develop new quality measures of autonomy, respect, and mistreatment in perinatal care.  These accountability tools have now been applied in 65 countries at the institutional, health system, and country levels.

(00:00) Introduction

(07:07) Interview with Dr. Saraswathi Vedam 

Learn more:

• The Birth Place Lab
• The Giving Voice to Mothers Study
• The RESPCCT Study: Community-led Development of a Person-Centered Instrument to Measure Health Equity in Perinatal Services (Vedam et al., 2024)
• Beyond Complacency: Challenges (and Opportunities) for Reproductive Justice in Canada (LEAF, 2022)
• Visioning New Futures for Reproductive Justice Declaration 2023 (Sister Song)

Episode Credits: This episode was produced by Pemma Muzumdar, Carolina Jimenez, Rebecca Cheff and host Bernice Yanful (NCCDH). The Mind the Disruption project team is led by Rebecca Cheff, with technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Promotion by Caralyn Vossen (NCCDH). Artwork by comet art + design. Sound credits: clips used from the Birth Place Lab, “talking people.MP3” by szalonegacie (CC0 1.0), “conference chatter 3.aif” by reecord2 (CC0 1.0), and “Walla_ses1.wav” by freesound (CC0 1.0). Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health. NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University and funded by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of the PHAC. 

Check out this episode to learn from Chloé Cébron and Shezeen Suleman who are part of a growing movement mobilizing for the right to health care for all people living in Canada, regardless of immigration status. In this episode, Chloé, the director of policy and advocacy at Médecins du Monde, shares lessons from a successful advocacy campaign to expand health care coverage for all children living in Quebec. Then Shezeen, a midwife and co-chair of the Health Network for Uninsured Clients in Toronto, reflects on using advocacy as a strategy for health equity.

(00:00) Introduction

(6:44) Interview with Chloé Cébron

(40:04) Interview with Shezeen Suleman

Episode Guests: Chloé Cébron is a lawyer in international humanitarian law and human rights and the director of policy and advocacy at Médecins du Monde Canada. For nearly 15 years, she has worked for humanitarian health organizations as a legal, policy and advocacy advisor in a dozen countries. Since 2017, she has been working for Médecins du Monde Canada and coordinates the organization’s advocacy on access to health care for migrants with precarious status in Canada. Shezeen Suleman is a midwife in Toronto, co-leading the MATCH program at the South Riverdale Community Health Centre. She has worked as a midwife in the city for over 10 years and before this worked as a youth worker in neighborhoods across the city; these roots in community work inform her practice as a midwife. Shezeen also co-chairs the Health Network for Uninsured Clients in the GTA, aiming to create and maintain dignified pathways to care for people living without OHIP. 

Learn more:

Precarious immigration status, precarious health: Working together to ensure healthcare for all women living in Quebec (MdM, 2023)

Bill 83: Implementation & Information (MdM, 2021)

Health Network for Uninsured Clients resources & report (HNUC, 2023)

Let’s Talk: Advocacy & health equity (NCCDH, 2015)

Does public health advocacy seek to redress health inequities? A scoping review (Cohen & Marshall, 2017)

Disrupting Migrant Work [Season 1, Episode 4] (NCCDH, 2023)

Episode Credits: Production for this episode was led by Rebecca Cheff, with contributions from Carolina Jimenez, Pemma Muzumdar and host Bernice Yanful. The Mind the Disruption project team is led by Rebecca Cheff, with technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Promotion by Caralyn Vossen. Artwork by comet art + design. Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health. NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University and funded by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of PHAC.

Harlan Pruden is Nehiyô/First Nations Cree, Two-Spirit, and a dedicated disruptor of settler colonialism, homophobia, and transphobia with the goal of creating better tomorrows with and for Two-Spirit communities. Listen to this episode to hear how Harlan found his purpose of creating affirming spaces for Two-Spirit people, and to explore how we as public health professionals can support decolonization in public health programs, policies, research, and systems from a place of humility.  

(00:00) Introduction 

(02:16) Interview with Harlan Pruden

Episode Guest: Harlan Pruden (pronouns - anything said mindfully and respectfully) is nehiyô/First Nations Cree who works with and for the Two-Spirit community locally, nationally, and internationally. Harlan is a co-founder of the Two-Spirit Dry Lab and the Indigenous Knowledge Translation Lead at Chee Mamuk, an Indigenous health program at the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control. Harlan is also the Managing Editor of TwoSpiritJournal.com and an advisory member for the Canadian Institutes of Health Research’s Institute of Gender and Health.

Learn more: 

BCCDC COVID-19 language guide: Guidelines for inclusive language for written and digital content

Two-Spirit: Conversations with Young Two-Spirit, Trans and Queer Indigenous People in Toronto (a zine by Marie Laing)

You Are Made of Medicine: A Mental Health Peer Support Manual for Indigiqueer, Two-Spirit, LGBTQ+, and Gender Non-Conforming Indigenous youth (Native Youth Sexual Health Network)

An Introduction to the Health of Two-Spirit People: Historical, contemporary and emergent issues (National Collaborating Centre for Indigenous Health)

Reclaiming Power and Place: The Final Report of the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls

Episode Credits: This episode is produced by Rebecca Cheff, Carolina Jimenez, and our host Bernice Yanful (NCCDH). Special thanks to our episode guest Harlan Pruden. Coordination of communications, webpage development and dissemination are led by Caralyn Vossen (NCCDH). Thanks to Claire Betker and the rest of the NCCDH team for their support. Technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Artwork by comet art + design.

Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the NCCDH. Visit https://nccdh.ca/learn/podcast/ to learn more about the podcast and our work.

The NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University. This podcast is made possible through a financial contribution from the Public Health Agency of Canada through funding for the NCCDH. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Established in 2005, the NCCDH is one of the six National Collaborating Centres (NCCs) for Public Health that work together to promote the use of scientific research and other knowledge to strengthen public health practices, programs and policies in Canada. For more information, visit the NCCPH website.

Paul Taylor, the former head of FoodShare and a life-long anti-poverty activist, dismantles the barriers – include fat phobia and weight bias – that constrain people’s access to food on their own terms. Listen to this episode to hear Paul’s story, learn about FoodShare’s commitment to food justice, body liberation and fat acceptance, and reflect on how public health practitioners can confront harmful weight discrimination with dietitian Lillian Yin.

(00:00) Introduction

(02:22) Interview with Paul Taylor 

(44:05) Interview with Lillian Yin

Episode Guests: Paul Taylor is a lifelong anti-poverty activist and a champion for the right to food. Paul was the executive director of FoodShare Toronto until January 2023. Growing up materially poor in Toronto, inspired Paul to commit his life to doing what he can to dismantle the systems of oppression that cause and uphold food insecurity and wealth inequality, including neoliberalism and white supremacy. Paul has been named one of Canada’s Top 40 under 40, one of Toronto Life’s 50 Most Influential Torontonians and voted Best Activist by readers of NOW Magazine. Alongside his colleagues at FoodShare, Paul works to support community-led food infrastructure with the collective vision of a Toronto where everyone can feed themselves, their loved ones and their communities with dignity and with joy. Paul’s experience also includes executive director roles at Gordon Neighbourhood House and the Downtown Eastside Neighbourhood House. He has chaired the British Columbia Poverty Reduction Coalition, served on the Board of Directors of the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives and as Vice-Chair of Food Secure Canada. Paul teaches courses at Simon Fraser University. Lillian Yin is a registered dietitian and a diabetes educator, of East-Asian descent with roots in Taiwan and China. For the last 7 years, she is privileged to serve in spaces across the spectrum of life, from infancy and pregnancy, through adolescence and older adult years, and various areas of the health system ranging from acute and primary care to community and public health. Driven by her passion to advance social justice and achieve health equity within the wider system through collective action, she is currently pursuing a Master in Public Health at Johns Hopkins University. 

Learn more: 

Foodshare’s statement on body liberation and fat acceptance

Weight bias: a call to action (Journal of Eating Disorders, 2016)

The Focus is on Health, Not Weight (Vancouver Coastal Health, 2019) 

What are the implications of food insecurity for health and health care? (PROOF)

Black Food Matters: Racial Justice in the Wake of Food Justice

Upstream action on food insecurity: A curated list (NCCDH, 2017) 

Food Justice (Food Secure Canada)

Episode Credits: This episode is produced by Rebecca Cheff, Carolina Jimenez, and our host Bernice Yanful. Coordination of communications, webpage development and dissemination are led by Caralyn Vossen. Technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Artwork by comet art + design. Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health. The NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University and funded by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of PHAC.

Sarom Rho is a migrant and a community organizer who unites with other migrant workers to mobilize for full and permanent immigration status for all in Canada. Listen to this episode to learn from Sarom about the ways in which immigration status, employment and health are linked, and to consider why a global approach to local public health practice matters with public health professor and researcher Dr. Erica Di Ruggiero. 

(00:00) Introduction

(02:23) Interview with Sarom Rho 

(36:37) Interview with Erica Di Ruggiero 

Episode Guests: Sarom Rho is an organizer with the Migrant Workers Alliance for Change, a workers' rights organization with a membership of migrants in farm work, care work and low-waged work, which includes current and former international students, refugees and undocumented people. MWAC serves as the Secretariat of the Migrant Rights Network. Reflective guest Dr. Erica Di Ruggiero is an Associate Professor of Global Health at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health whose research focuses on evaluating the health, gender, and equity impacts of policies on marginalized groups such as precarious workers. She explores how different types of evidence shape global policy agendas and influence global governance in the context of the Sustainable Development Goals.

Learn more: 

Report: Behind Closed Doors – Exposing Migrant Care Worker Exploitation During COVID-19 (MWAC, 2020) 

Report: Unheeded Warnings – COVID-19 & Migrant Workers in Canada (MWAC, 2020)

Immigration Status as the Foundational Determinant of Health for People Without Status in Canada: A Scoping Review (Gagnon et al., 2021)

Determining Health: Decent work issue brief (NCCDH, 2022)

Episode Credits: This episode is produced by Rebecca Cheff, Carolina Jimenez, and our host Bernice Yanful (NCCDH). Special thanks to our episode guests Sarom Rho and Erica Di Ruggiero. Coordination of communications, webpage development and dissemination are led by Caralyn Vossen (NCCDH). Thanks to Claire Betker and the rest of the NCCDH team for their support. Technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Artwork by comet art + design.

Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the NCCDH. Visit https://nccdh.ca/learn/podcast/ to learn more about the podcast and our work.

The NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University. This podcast is made possible through a financial contribution from the Public Health Agency of Canada through funding for the NCCDH. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Established in 2005, the NCCDH is one of the six National Collaborating Centres (NCCs) for Public Health that work together to promote the use of scientific research and other knowledge to strengthen public health practices, programs and policies in Canada. For more information, visit the NCCPH website.

Samiya Abdi has trained thousands of public health practitioners to recognize the power that each of us has to do something different in the face of health inequities and injustice. Listen to this episode to learn from both Samiya and Heather Lokko – two seasoned public health professionals working at the provincial and local levels – about how to transform public health practice, teams, organizations, and systems from within to support more equitable communities and societies.

(00:00) Introduction

(02:23) Interview with Samiya Abdi 

(39:54) Interview with Heather Lokko 

Episode Guests: This episode explores disrupting public health systems, organization and practice to advance health equity with Samiya Abdi and Heather Lokko. Samiya Abdi is seconded for a year to lead the Black Health Education Collaborative as an Executive Director. Over the past 15 years Samiya has been working towards making the public health system more equitable, challenging intersecting forms of oppression, and understanding marginalization in knowledge production, research, and practice. Prior to joining BHEC Samiya was the Senior Program Specialist in Health Equity for Public Health Ontario. Samiya also possesses extensive experience in community engagement work, has co-founded international movements such as the Somali Gender Equity Movement and Famine Resisters alongside local initiatives such as Aspire2Lead and the Toronto Muslim Youth Political fellowship. She holds a Master’s in public health and a graduate diploma in social innovation and systems thinking. Reflective guest Heather Lokko has been a direct service provider, professional practice lead, program manager, and senior leader during her public health career. She is currently the Director of the Healthy Start Division at the Middlesex-London Health Unit. Additionally, she is MLHU’s Chief Nursing Officer. In this role, Heather leads health equity strategy, promotes practice excellence, and provides nursing leadership in local, regional, provincial, and national initiatives. Heather is the Community Co-Director of Western University’s Centre for Research on Health Equity and Social Inclusion, is on the board of directors for the London Intercommunity Health Centre, and is an Adjunct Research Professor at Western University. Heather is passionate about health equity, collective action, and building healthy families and communities.

Learn more:

Glossary of Essential Health Equity Terms (NCCDH, 2022) 

Equity In Action (NCCDH, 2022) 

Let's Talk: Health equity (NCCDH, 2013)

Let's Talk: Public health roles for improving health equity (NCCDH, 2013)

Organizational Capacity for Health Equity Action Initiative (NCCDH)

Episode credits: This episode is produced by Rebecca Cheff, Carolina Jimenez, and our host Bernice Yanful. Tia (Kristia) Maatta helped with editing and Mandy Walker helped with guest interviews for this episode. Coordination of communications, webpage development and dissemination are led by Caralyn Vossen. Technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Artwork by comet art + design. Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health. The NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University and funded by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Sume Ndumbe-Eyoh has been raising tough conversations about Whiteness, White Supremacy and racism for over ten years in a public health field that often insisted it wasn't ready. Listen to this episode to hear Sume’s story and then reflect on disrupting Whiteness in public health and the nursing field with public health nurses Mandy Walker and Hannah Klassen.  

(00:00) Introduction

(02:22) Interview with Sume Ndumbe-Eyoh 

(51:21) Interview with Hannah Klassen and Mandy Walker 

Episode Guests: Sume Ndumbe-Eyoh is the Executive Director of the Black Health Education Collaborative and an Assistant Professor at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health. She is a catalytic leader who mobilizes knowledge and activates networks to advance policy and practice on social and economic issues that impact health and wellbeing.  She spent a decade with the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health, where she provided leadership to public health practice on health equity, the social determinants of health including racism, in partnership with institutions across Canada. She holds a Master of Health Sciences in Health Promotion and Global Health. Hailing from Cameroon, she is grateful to live, work and play in Turtle Island and is committed to working towards decolonial futures. Mandy Walker (she/her) is a Registered Nurse and Public Health Professional with most of her career having a pediatric and family-centered care focus. She has 10+ years of clinical healthcare experience within an emergency department, acute care, and community setting. Her frontline work experience ignited and continues to inspire her passion and dedication in working to advance health equity and social justice. Mandy is a Knowledge Translation Specialist at the NCCDH. Hannah Klassen is a White cis-gendered woman with European-Settler and Métis ancestry living on Treaty 7 land. Her passion for health equity and social justice developed working as a Registered Nurse in substance use and perinatal health. Hannah is a Knowledge Translation Specialist at the NCCDH. She completed her Master of Public Health and is grateful to work with the NCCDH.

Learn more:

Let’s Talk: Racism and health equity (NCCDH, 2018)

Let’s Talk: Whiteness and health equity (NCCDH, 2020)

Webinars on racism, anti-racism and racial equity (NCCDH, 2016-)

Black Nurses Task Force Report

Episode Credits: This episode is produced by Rebecca Cheff, Carolina Jimenez, and our host Bernice Yanful. Coordination of communications, webpage development and dissemination are led by Caralyn Vossen. Technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Artwork by comet art + design. Sound credits: “2020-06-12 blm protest goes by.flac” by tim.kahn is licensed under CC BY-NC 4.0. “Protest-Recording-4.wav” by _bliind is licensed under CC BY 4.0. Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health. The NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University and funded by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of PHAC.

Jennifer Scott delivers food on her bike in Toronto and organizes with other gig workers to fight against the challenging – and often unsafe and harmful – employer practice of misclassifying workers. Listen to this episode to hear Jennifer’s story and reflect on why healthy working conditions are essential for public health with Medical Officer of Health Dr. Monika Dutt.

(00:00) Introduction

(02:23) Interview with Jennifer Scott

(37:00) Interview with Monika Dutt 

Episode Guests:

This episodes explores the relationship between work and health, and what public health can do to support worker health and health equity with interviews with Jennifer Scott and Dr. Monika Dutt. Jennifer Scott is the president of Gig Workers United and a gig worker doing bike delivery for various apps in Toronto. Monika Dutt is a public health physician and a Medical Officer of Health in Newfoundland and Labrador. She is a family doctor at the Ally Centre of Cape Breton. She volunteers with the Decent Work and Health Network and the Anti-Racism Coalition of NL. She is currently in Hamilton, Ontario, with her son, where she recently started a PhD in Health Policy. 

Learn more:

Gig Workers’ Bill of Rights

Gig Workers United: Order-In-Days

Decent Work and Health Network

Determining Health: Decent work issue brief

Equity In Action: Advocacy Wins – Paid Sick Days, Public Support and Sustainable Change

Equity In Action: Peel Public Health Tackles Inequities in Workplaces and Increases Access to Worker Protections During COVID-19

Eh Sayers Episode 4 - Who Wins and Who Loses in the Gig Economy?

Episode Credits:

This episode is produced by Rebecca Cheff, Carolina Jimenez, and our host Bernice Yanful (NCCDH). Special thanks to our episode guests Jennifer Scott and Monika Dutt. Coordination of communications, webpage development and dissemination are led by Caralyn Vossen (NCCDH). Thanks to Claire Betker and the rest of the NCCDH team for their support. Technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Artwork by comet art + design.

Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health (NCCDH). Visit https://nccdh.ca/learn/podcast/ to learn more about the podcast and our work.

The NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University. This podcast is made possible through a financial contribution from the Public Health Agency of Canada through funding for the NCCDH. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the Public Health Agency of Canada. 

Established in 2005, the NCCDH is one of the six National Collaborating Centres (NCCs) for Public Health that work together to promote the use of scientific research and other knowledge to strengthen public health practices, programs and policies in Canada. For more information, visit the NCCPH website.

Welcome to Mind the Disruption. This is a show about people who refuse to accept things as they are. It's about people pushing for better health for all. It's about people like us who have a deep desire to build a healthier, more just world.

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Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health. Visit https://nccdh.ca/learn/podcast/ to learn more about the podcast and our work.

This podcast is hosted by Bernice Yanful.

It is created, developed and produced by Rebecca Cheff, Carolina Jimenez, and Bernice Yanful. 

Technical production and original music by Chris Perry.

Artwork by comet art + design.

As Director of the Community Climate Resilience Lab, Dr. Imara Rolston recognizes that the climate crisis is a health emergency that will disproportionally impact racialized communities. Listen to this episode to hear how Imara and his team are bringing together non-profit leaders, grassroots leaders, academics, and policy makers and creating a Toronto-focused Racial Justice Climate Resilience framework. Through this work, they are supporting cites to reckon with historical slavery and colonialism and integrate community-driven solutions. Community outreach worker Diana Chan McNally then reflects on opportunities for public health to improve community engagement efforts. 

(00:00) Introduction

(8:09) Interview with Imara Rolston 

(40:49) Interview with Diana Chan McNally

Episode Guests: Dr. Imara Ajani Rolston is a social psychologist, policy maker, and Associate Professor and director of the Community Climate Resilience Lab at the University of Toronto’s Dalla Lana School of Public Health. Dr. Rolston has contributed to research and publications in the areas of HIV/AIDS, health promotion and community development and has advanced racial justice and urban responses to climate change with the City of Toronto. He has over 15 years of experience working across Sub-Saharan Africa with organizations including the Stephen Lewis Foundation, Oxfam Canada, and Greenpeace Africa. Reflective guest Diana Chan McNally (Dipl. CW, BFA, MA, MEd) is a frontline worker supporting unhoused people in Toronto's downtown east side. As someone with lived experience of social services and homelessness, her work focuses on human rights and equity issues for people without housing, and particularly encampments. She is an alumnus of Maytree Canada and a fellow of the McNally Project for Paramedicine Research.  

Learn more:

• Climate Change Resilience Part 2: Public health roles and actions (NCCDH, 2021)
• Keeping It Political and Powerful: Defining the Structural Determinants of Health (Heller et al., 2024)
• Let’s Talk series: Community Engagement, Racism, and Whiteness (NCCDH)

Episode Credits: Production for this episode was led by Pemma Muzumdar and host Bernice Yanful, with contributions from Rebecca Cheff and Carolina Jimenez (NCCDH). The Mind the Disruption project team is led by Rebecca Cheff, with technical production and original music by Chris Perry. Promotion by Caralyn Vossen (NCCDH). Artwork by comet art + design. Sound credit: "Central Park Ambience.aif" by logancircle2 is licensed under CC BY 4.0. Mind the Disruption is a podcast by the National Collaborating Centre for Determinants of Health. NCCDH is hosted by St. Francis Xavier University and funded by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of the PHAC.