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| #30: How Healing Happens Between Us – An IFS Healing Circles Audio Diary | 24 Aug 2026 | 00:21:28 | |
This episode is a companion to my conversation with Chris Burris, creator of Healing Circles. After learning about his approach to bringing Internal Family Systems into group therapy, I traveled to Asheville, North Carolina, to experience it for myself. Over five days, I recorded an audio diary as the experience unfolded — reflecting on what was happening inside me, what was happening within the group, and what I was learning about the power of intentional community. You’ll hear about parts work, group “sculpting,” vulnerability, connection, and the surprising ways a group of strangers can begin to become a healing community. These are not reflections reconstructed months later. They are my thoughts recorded in the midst of the experience — an attempt to take you with me as I explore a question I’ve become increasingly curious about: How much of healing happens not just within us, but between us? Timestamps 0:00 — Why This Audio Diary Exists Learn more about Chris Burris Website: www.burriscounseling.com — trainings, workshops, and resources Book: Creating Healing Circles: Using the Internal Family Systems Model in Facilitating Groups Subscribe to the Developing Meaning Substack newsletter for updates and behind-the-scenes reflections. Developing Meaning is NOT MEDICAL ADVICE and is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS. Developing Meaning is produced by Sophie Chen, Anya Kleinlein and Dirk Winter and is a production of Consilient Mind LLC. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz. | |||
| #29: Chris Burris on Creating Healing Circles – IFS Group Therapy and the Power of Community | 20 Aug 2026 | 01:12:21 | |
In this episode, I sit down with Chris Burris — senior lead IFS trainer, trauma therapist, and creator of Healing Circles — after spending five days at his home in Asheville, North Carolina participating in one of his experiential trainings. We explore how Chris brought Internal Family Systems into group therapy and how community can become not simply a source of support, but an active part of the healing process. We dig into intention setting, commitment, group “sculpting,” unburdening, and how an intentional community can help us revisit deeply held beliefs about ourselves and other people. This interview is followed by an audio diary taking you inside my own Healing Circles experience. In this episode: • Chris Burris’s path from family systems work to long-term trauma therapy Timestamps 00:00 — Welcome: Why Groups Can Heal Learn more about Chris Burris Website: www.burriscounseling.com — trainings, workshops, and resources Book: Creating Healing Circles: Using the Internal Family Systems Model in Facilitating Groups Subscribe to the Developing Meaning Substack newsletter for updates and behind-the-scenes reflections. Developing Meaning is NOT MEDICAL ADVICE and is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS. Developing Meaning is produced by Sophie Chen, Anya Kleinlein and Dirk Winter and is a production of Consilient Mind LLC. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz. | |||
| #28: Inside an IFS Ketamine Retreat with Ted Riskin and Amy Borsky Duffer, A Psychiatrist’s Audio Diary. | 23 May 2026 | 00:20:41 | |
This episode is a companion audio diary to my interview with Ted Riskin, recorded while participating in one of his five-day Internal Family Systems (IFS) ketamine-assisted group retreats in Asheville, North Carolina. Over the course of the retreat, I recorded stream-of-consciousness reflections into my iPhone each day as I moved through group process, ketamine journeys, hikes in the mountains, and conversations about healing, anger, meaning, and inner balance. This episode is more personal and less structured than my usual interviews. Part field journal, part psychological exploration, it captures what it feels like to enter one of these increasingly popular healing environments. Timestamps 0:00 - Audio Diary Retreat Setup Subscribe to the Developing Meaning Substack newsletter: Developing Meaning is NOT MEDICAL ADVICE and is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz. Developing Meaning is produced by Consilient Mind LLC. | |||
| #27: Ted Riskin - Befriending Anger, Moving the Cat, and the Healing Power of IFS Group Ketamine Retreats. | 17 May 2026 | 01:09:22 | |
In this episode, I sit down with Ted Riskin — social worker, IFS expert, and pioneer of group ketamine retreats — after spending a week at his beautiful home in Asheville, North Carolina participating in one of his experiences. From his unusual path as a computer programmer living in an Ashram to becoming one of the leading voices in ketamine-assisted IFS group therapy, we explore how to work with protectors, why anger deserves more respect than our culture gives it, and how group healing unlocks something individual therapy often can't reach. Plus: why meaning isn't something you find — it's something you create. In this episode
Timestamps 3:42 - Meeting Ted And His Setting Subscribe to the Developing Meaning Substack newsletter: https://developingmeaning.substack.com/subscribe Developing Meaning is NOT MEDICAL ADVICE and is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz. Developing Meaning is produced by Consilient Mind LLC. | |||
| #26: How Breath Can Heal Trauma and Restore Meaning - Dr. Patricia Gerbarg | 11 Mar 2026 | 01:48:38 | |
Note: This conversation with Dr. Patricia Gerbarg was recorded in August 2025. In this episode, we explore how breathing patterns reshape the emotional brain, restore a sense of safety, and allow meaning to return to daily life with Dr. Patricia Gerbarg, co-creator of the Breath-Body-Mind program. From her personal development as a healer to co-creating a global healing community active in trauma hotspots like Ukraine and Rwanda, we explore the science, stories, and practical tools that help people regulate their nervous systems and reconnect with meaning. In this episode • Meaning as state-dependent and grounded in safety Timestamps 0:14 – Opening Teaser: Breath and Meaning Subscribe to the Developing Meaning Substack newsletter: Developing Meaning is NOT MEDICAL ADVICE and is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz. | |||
| #25: A Past Year Review Has Consequences (I Quit My Job and Started a Clinic - Yikes!) | 25 Jan 2026 | 00:16:27 | |
In this New Year’s episode, I explore the very real consequences of last year’s Past Year Review. Most notably, I decided to retire from a beloved community mental health clinic and launch Park West Integrative Psychiatry — sparked by a desire for creativity, continued learning, and a growing belief in integrative trauma-informed approaches such as EMDR, Internal Family Systems, ketamine-assisted therapy, hypnosis, and breath-based practices. This episode reflects on how intentionally examining meaning and purpose can lead to significant life changes — changes that invite both opportunity and risk, excitement and fear. To close the episode, I share a recording of my retirement speech from the clinic, which turns into an unexpected sing-along and a fitting ritual for marking the end of one chapter and the beginning of another. Chapters 0:13 — Nerves and a Big Career Pivot Sign up for the Developing Meaning Substack newsletter for updates and behind-the-scenes reflections. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz. | |||
| #24: Past Year Review (PYR) and Setting Intentions for Beginner's Mind, Questioning Assumptions, and Consilience in 2025. (REPOST) | 31 Dec 2025 | 00:34:07 | |
Happy New Year! It's time to do a meaning inventory in order to set intentions for 2026. Toward that end I am re-posting my meaning inventory from last year. Our next episode will delve into how these unfolded and are leading to major career changes. This episode invites listeners to engage in a meaningful past year review, turning away from traditional resolutions toward a more insightful approach to personal growth. By exploring the themes of beginner's mind, questioning assumptions, and the importance of consilience, Dr. Dirk Winter provides a framework for navigating mental health and self-discovery We cover:. | |||
| #23: Master Hypnotist Mike Mandel (50 Years) on Ego States, Parts Work, and the Architecture of Mind. | 22 Nov 2025 | 01:34:12 | |
Mike Mandel is a world-leading hypnotist with over 50 years of professional experience. He's performed nearly 5,000 stage shows, trained over 10,000 students at his Toronto hypnosis academy, and co-hosts the Brain Software podcast. Our conversation bridges hypnosis, Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, pain management, and meaning-making—showing how different healing traditions can discover the same truths about how minds heal. Whether you're a therapist curious about hypnosis, an IFS practitioner, or simply fascinated by how minds work and heal, this conversation will expand your understanding. You'll hear:
⚠️ WARNING: Mike starts with a brief hypnotic demonstration. Pay attention—the more you focus, the more you'll experience it. We unpack how he did it at the end. "Everything is an ego state issue without exception." — Mike MandelKey Timestamps
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Developing Meaning is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS and is NOT INTENDED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. Theme Music by The Thrashing Skumz. Produced by Dirk Winter and Caroline Hinton Brought to you by Consilient Mind LLC. | |||
| #22: Healing Beyond Words - Joanne Twombly on 30 + Years of Treating Complex Trauma With Hypnosis, EMDR, IFS, and Deep Brain Reorienting. | 26 Sep 2025 | 01:16:54 | |
Joanne Twombly, LCSW and author of Trauma Informed Internal Family Systems, has been treating complex trauma and dissociative disorders for over 30 years. In this conversation, she explores how right-brain modalities such as EMDR, hypnosis, and Internal Family Systems (IFS) can sometimes heal what words cannot. We also discuss the evolution of dissociative disorder diagnoses, the book Sybil and false memory controversies, the limits of traditional talk therapy, and the deeper role of meaning in recovery. Timestamps Produced by Dirk Winter. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz.
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| #21: Former Marine Beau Laviolette Combines EMDR, IFS and Nature Retreats to Heal Veterans and Create Meaning. | 27 Jul 2025 | 01:17:53 | |
What happens when you combine military experience, personal recovery, cutting-edge trauma therapies, and the healing power of nature? Beau Laviolette's remarkable journey answers this question through a story of transformation and purpose. Developing Meaning is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS and is NOT INTENDED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. Theme Music by The Thrashing Skumz. Produced by Dirk Winter MD PhD and brought to you by Consilient Mind LLC. | |||
| #20: How IFS Helped Me Face Cancer And Myself - Audiodiary of My Level I IFS Training. | 27 Jun 2025 | 01:00:39 | |
In this episode, I take you inside my experience of learning Internal Family Systems therapy while simultaneously navigating prostate cancer surgery and recovery during the fall and winter of 2023-24. This episode of Developing Meaning is produced by Dirk Winter and Caroline Hinton and brought to you by Consilient Mind LLC. Developing Meaning is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS and NOT CLINICAL ADVICE. Theme Music by The Thrashing Skumz. | |||
| #19: Margaret Conley - How We Heal Complex Trauma and Legacy Burdens with IFS. | 30 Apr 2025 | 01:21:54 | |
Margaret Conley, LCSW, Minister, and IFS Assistant Trainer, joins me to explore how trauma is passed down through families, culture, and society —and how we can heal. Drawing from her own powerful story, Margaret explains the Internal Family Systems (IFS) concept of legacy burdens and how she helps clients release inherited patterns related to race, religion, gender, and family history. This episode is part of my IFS Level 1 training series and offers deep insight into how healing across generations is not only possible—but transforms how we create meaning. Timestamps Them music by The Thrashing Skumz. This episode is produced by Dirk Winter, Fariha Fawziah and Caroline Hinton and brought to you by Consilient Mind LLC. Developing Meaning is NOT MEDICAL ADVICE and NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS. | |||
| #18: Ridghaus Follows the Golden Threads - A Story of Adoption, Grief and Meaning. | 15 Mar 2025 | 01:27:12 | |
Can you imagine learning at 35 that you were adopted? In this episode Ridghaus, my friend and Level I IFS Program Assistant, shares how this discovery transformed his sense of identity and led him to advocate for adoptee rights and communities. We also explore the profound loss of his 18-year-old son and how he has grieved. Through our conversation, Ridghaus reflects on the "golden threads" that have guided him—moments of insight, connection, and healing. We discuss how Internal Family Systems (IFS) has played a role in his process, helping him hold space for his parts and for others in their own healing journeys. This episode is part of a series on my Level I IFS training experience, in which I introduce the IFS model (#16), introduce my Lead Trainer Jory Agate (#17). Upcoming episodes will introduce another trainer Margaret Conley (#19), who is an expert in complex trauma and legacy burdens, and then an audiodiary (#20) will follow. My intention in this series is to share this exciting new model of healing with classically trained therapists and anyone else curious about mental health and meaning.
Developing Meaning is NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY INSTITUTIONS, and is NOT MENTAL HEALTH ADVICE. Theme Music by The Thrashing Skumz. This episode was produced by Dirk Winter, Fariha Fawziah and Caroline Hinton and is brought to you by Consilient Mind LLC. | |||
| #17: Past Year Review (PYR) and Setting Intentions for Beginner's Mind, Questioning Assumptions, and Consilience in 2025. | 12 Jan 2025 | 00:33:11 | |
This episode invites listeners to engage in a meaningful past year review, turning away from traditional resolutions toward a more insightful approach to personal growth. By exploring the themes of beginner's mind, questioning assumptions, and the importance of consilience, Dr. Dirk Winter provides a framework for navigating mental health and self-discovery in 2025. | |||
| #16: Jory Agate - Unitarian Minister and Internal Family Systems (IFS) Lead Trainer on Meaning, Kindness, and How IFS Heals Trauma. | 15 Dec 2024 | 00:55:56 | |
The Internal Family Systems (IFS) Level I training is an experiential group learning process that teaches us how to identify and heal traumatized parts of ourselves and others. In October 2023 I began this training after having recently received a prostate cancer diagnosis. This episode begins a multi - part series in which I introduce you to fascinating healers I met during my Level I training, beginning with Jory Agate my Lead Trainer. Theme music by the Thrashing Skumz! | |||
| #15: Do You Have One Mind or Many? How Internal Family Systems Therapy (IFS) Heals Trauma by Embracing Our Inner Multiplicity. | 17 Nov 2024 | 00:47:10 | |
Internal Family Systems therapy (IFS) is a type of therapy that views the normal human mind as an internal family of inner conscious beings. In this episode we unpack the key IFS concepts of 'Exiles,' 'Firefighters,' and the 'Self,' offering insights into how our childhood experiences shape our inner dynamics and how we can harmonize our mental orchestra by putting the 'Self' back into our mind's conductor seat. This episode sets the stage for a multiple episode series that brings you with me into my IFS level I training experience and community. | |||
| #14: Integrative Psychiatrist Dr. Bliss Lewis Shares Her Story of Holistic Healing, Building Communities, and How She Sets Her Life Intention | 29 Sep 2024 | 01:34:26 | |
Dr. Bliss Lewis is a child and adult psychiatrist, expert in integrative and alternative treatments, and creator of Mind Body 7, one of the most innovative and successful group psychotherapy practices in New York. She learned natural healing approaches as a child in in Russia and Poland, then combined these interests with modern Western medical training at Harvard, Columbia and NYU. She also has passion for dance, music, yoga, meditation, and her curiosity and creativity have allowed her to build heart-centered practices and holistic wellness communities around these interests. Discover how trauma-informed care, self-compassion, and artistic expression can guide you towards a more fulfilling existence. Learn more about Dr. Bliss Lewis at: | |||
| #13: Dr. Richard Brown Leads 6 Minutes of Coherent Breathing (Supplement to Episode 12) | 09 Aug 2024 | 00:06:19 | |
Please enjoy this guided six minute coherent breathing exercise led by Dr. RIchard Brown, co-creator of Breath Body Mind. | |||
| #12: Dr. Richard Brown, Co-Creator of Breath Body Mind, on How Ancient Breathing Techniques Can Heal Trauma, Optimize Health, and Create Joy | 09 Aug 2024 | 01:34:16 | |
For thousands of years breathing has been used to heal trauma, optimize health, and build connection. Dr. Richard Brown has spent his life mastering these techniques, and is also an expert in integrative psychiatry, and Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia. He has co-authored over 100 scientific articles, chapters, and award winning books on applying these techniques to heal anxiety, trauma, and optimize health. Together with his wife, Dr. Patricia Gerbarg, he has co-created the Breath-Body-Mind organization, which trains health care providers in using breathing techniques to heal health workers and trauma survivors all over the world, including places like Ukraine, Rawanda, Sudan, and Turkey. In this episode you will learn how childhood bullying led him to pursue martial arts, and learn techniques that we all can use to heal, optimize health, and find joy. | |||
| #11: Deb Dana - on Polyvagal Therapy, Neuroscience of Connection, and How Meaning Emerges From Our Internal States | 10 May 2024 | 01:16:20 | |
Deb Dana is a master healer, teacher, author, and the creator of a unique polyvagal-informed approach to therapy that is based on The Polyvagal Theory of Dr. Stephen Porges. Theme music by The Thrashing Skumz | |||
| #10: EMDR and The Meaning Of Life In One Word with Dr. April Minjarez | 17 Mar 2024 | 01:09:40 | |
Dr. April Minjarez is the only therapist I know who is both experienced at healing infant trauma and an end of life doula. She is also an expert in multiple trauma healing modalities including Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and an amazing mentor, teacher, and healer. | |||
| #9: Dr. Richard Brockman - On Surviving His Mother's Suicide, Psychoanalysis, and Healing Trauma with Neuroscience, Storytelling and Love | 10 Feb 2024 | 01:30:15 | |
When Richard Brockman was seven years old his mother died by suicide. He went on to become an expert in trauma and suicide, and is now a Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia, Psychoanalyst, Playwright, Author and my mentor and friend. He recently published his memoir, Life After Death: Surviving Suicide, which tells his story of loss and healing from both a first person and a neuroscience perspective. In this conversation you will learn much about how to heal trauma from perspectives of story, neuroscience, and meaning. 10:43 - Personal Connection's Impact in Psychiatry 25:29 - Questioning Freud's Theories in Therapy 30:15 - Understanding Meaning and Story in Psychology 42:04 - Trauma, Story, and Healing 50:31 - Healing Trauma Through Love and Storytelling 1:04:03 - Healing Trauma and Finding Gratitude 1:10:45 - Taking Steps Towards Healing and Recovery 1:17:38 - Healing and the Meaning of Life 1:26:28 - Appreciation, Friendship, and Future Plans | |||
| #8: 2023 Year End Review: How a Meaning Inventory Can Guide Us Into a Better New Year | 20 Jan 2024 | 00:26:16 | |
In this episode I discuss how a year end review can help us prioritize and plan for the year ahead. I review what I have learned from this podcast so far and look ahead toward upcoming episodes and topics in 2024. | |||
| #7: Bruce Hersey - How I Built the Syzygy Institute - Healing Trauma by Combining EMDR, IFS, and Coherence Therapy. | 10 Dec 2023 | 01:28:01 | |
"The more efficient a force is, the more silent and the more subtle it is. Love is the subtlest force in the world." ~ Mahatma Gandhi One way is to learn from Bruce Hersey, who has 30 + years of clinical experience and a wide range of expertise, including Ericksonian Hypnosis, Psychodrama, EMDR, IFS, and Coherence Therapy. | |||
| #6: My First Ketamine Journey: Audio Diary of Ketamine Assisted Therapy Training Experience at Menla | 21 Nov 2023 | 01:00:06 | |
Join me as I share an audio diary of my first encounter with Ketamine, which is a legal psychedelic medication that can treat depression, trauma and more. | |||
| #5: Dr. David Merrill - on Psychoanalysis, Writing, and the Value of Exploring Our Unconscious Mind with Honesty, Kindness and Courage. | 09 Oct 2023 | 01:02:06 | |
What would make a successful Columbia Psychiatrist and Psychoanalyst fly across the country to write a story about a one-legged wrestling superstar? What does it mean to be Neurotic, and how can we recognize and change repetitive self-defeating patterns? As our world becomes increasingly divided and distracting, we reflect on the need for kindness, self-reflection, and listening, as well as the importance of creativity and connection with Nature in finding balance. Buckle up for a captivating discussion that navigates the complexities of the mind, illuminating how psychoanalysis, literature, and introspective journeys shape our understanding of life's meaning. | |||
| #4: Justin Townsend, CEO of MycoMeditations - Journey into Psychedelic Retreats, Healing Trauma, and Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life. | 26 Sep 2023 | 01:51:41 | |
Are you curious about psychedelic retreats? Join us for an insider’s perspective with Justin Townsend, CEO of MycoMeditations, the oldest and largest psilocybin mushroom therapeutic retreat center in Jamaica. We discuss the process of safety screening, and the potential of using psychedelics to overcome trauma, ease depression, and reconnect with our authentic selves. Caution: DON'T CONSUME PSYCHELICS WITHOUT CONSULTING YOUR PERSONAL TRUSTED HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. 13:32 Psilocybin Retreats and Group Therapy 25:49 Background and Path to Psychedelics 40:59 Psychedelics, Mystical Experiences, and Therapeutic Potential 42:15 Roland Griffith's 3 Mediators of Psychedelic Experience 49:55 Bad Trips vs Healing Journeys 53:35 Therapeutic Healing and Transcending Rationality 1:02:16 Approaches to Trauma and Memory 1:05:26 Parental Fantasy Bond Trauma 1:13:49 Exploring Consciousness and Metaphysical Perspectives 1:21:55 Meaning of Life Questions 1:29:59 Carl Jung's Individuation and Integrating Your Shadow 1:32:33 Life In Jamaica 1:39:40 Legacy and Authenticity in Psychedelic Healing 1:45:19 The Concept of Letting Go 1:49:04 Next Episode: Psychoanalysis, Short Story Writing, and Meaning with Dr. David Merrill | |||
| #3: Dr. Jean Marmoreo - on Medically Assisted Dying, Living Wakes, and Meaning at the End of Life. | 11 Aug 2023 | 00:46:08 | |
Dr. Jean Marmoreo has been a family physician for upwards of forty years. For most of those years, she practiced mid-life medicine while breaking marathon records and hiking all around the world. Her speciality shifted in 2016, when MAiD (Medical Assistance in Dying) was legalized and she became one of Canada’s first MAiD practitioners. Having worked in the end-of-life medical spheres for the past seven years, Jean has witnessed numerous last days and multitudes of family goodbyes. Many believe that denial of death is at the root of human anxiety, and that awareness of our mortality is central to creating meaning. Join me for a conversation about meaning with one of the most experienced medical professionals in field of end of life medicine. In this episode, Jean and I discuss why people choose MAiD; how MAiD alters the pre-death experience; how MAiD has affected her faith and psyche; and how meaning factors into this complex medical practice. Produced by Dirk Winter and Violet Chernoff | |||
| #2: Annette Dubreuil Discusses Eugene Gendlin's Felt Sense as it Applies to Meaning, Creativity, and More. | 11 Aug 2023 | 01:16:54 | |
Many emerging therapies like EMDR, IFS, Somatic Experiencing, and Psychedelics target a client’s “Felt Sense” and “Embodied Knowing” rather than intellectual and cognitive insight. The term “Felt Sense” was coined by philosopher Eugene Gendlin, who developed a peer to peer therapy process called Focusing in the 1950s. Here we present a conversation with Focusing expert Annette Dubreuil on the history, allure, and methodology of this internal psychotherapeutic process. Annette describes her personal connection to Focusing, her experiences as a long-time Focusing facilitator, and her specific teaching process, the Pupa process. She also describes Gendlin’s Thinking at the Edge method for creativity, and how we can combine knowledge from different fields to enhance creativity and meaning. Stick around till the end to learn the meaning of life according to Annette Dubreuil and consider whether Focusing may be right for you.
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| #1: Introducing the Developing Meaning Podcast | 11 Aug 2023 | 00:24:31 | |
Have you ever wondered what your psychiatrist or therapist has figured out about life's big questions? In this first episode adult and child psychiatrist Dr. Dirk Winter begins his exploration of what clinicians have learned about how to build more meaning and purpose into our lives. Also, Dr. Winter suggests a daily meaning enhancement technique that combines Victor Frankel's 4 components of meaning with hypnotist Mike Mandell's daily questions technique. | |||