"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck – Détails, épisodes et analyse

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Today, we are joined by the inspiring Anna Mathur, a renowned mental health advocate, bestselling author, and host of The Therapy Edit podcast, which has amassed over 3 million downloads. Anna is passionate about making therapy accessible to everyone and delivers life-changing insights through her Instagram, books, and substack, The Frazzled Mums Club.

The episode also highlights Anna’s journey toward an alcohol-free life and how her faith has been a transformative anchor throughout her mental health journey. She shares how embracing vulnerability and addressing her fears has unlocked greater clarity and joy in her life.

Anna offers relatable wisdom on facing fears like people-pleasing, mourning friendships that no longer serve us, and accepting the uncomfortable truth that not everyone will like you. These topics resonate deeply with anyone who has felt the sting of rejection or the weight of unrealistic expectations, especially on an alcohol-free journey. 

Anna’s advice is grounded in her personal experiences and unique approach to mental health, offering practical tools for managing anxiety, overcoming overwhelm, and fostering deeper self-acceptance. Whether you’re struggling with people-pleasing or simply want to hear an extremely relatable journey of ditching alcohol sprinkled with tons of mental health wisdom, this episode is for you. 

Follow Anna on Instagram @annamathur. Grab her new book, The Uncomfortable Truth: Change Your Life by Taming 10 of Your Greatest Fears, for more of her brilliant insights, and follow her substack here. ​​https://annamathur.substack.com/

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The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

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Today we explore the joy and clarity of life without alcohol, sharing personal stories and tips for thriving in alcohol-free social settings. From milestone moments to everyday experiences, we uncover how this lifestyle enhances connection and presence.

Alcohol-Free Milestones Made Memorable

• Date Nights: Strengthen your connection with your partner in meaningful ways.

• Weddings & Birthdays: Celebrate without intoxication—just pure connection and joy.

• Sporting Events & Concerts: Embrace the energy and excitement of these events with a clear head.

• Vacations & Theater Performances: Experience the world and the arts like never before.

Building Healthier Relationships Through Better Communication

• Why listening and empathy are key to deeper relationships.

• How body language, tone, and trust create stronger connections.

• Tips for resolving conflicts with honesty and respect.

Living alcohol-free isn’t just about skipping drinks—it’s about being fully present for life’s moments and building richer connections with others.

Life without alcohol opens the door to unforgettable experiences and deeper relationships. Start exploring the possibilities today!

Note: This episode originally aired on April 8, 2024.

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You can find this episode on YouTube HERE

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Today we chat with Tabbin Almond to explore her profound journey to sobriety and the transformative power it holds—both personally and professionally. Her new book, Bottling Up Trouble: How Alcohol is Harming Your Business and What to Do About It, opens up about her early life surrounded by alcohol, her fast-paced career in advertising, and the pivotal moments that led her to change her life.

Tabbin’s has a passion for creating change in workplace culture, where alcohol is often woven into the fabric of socializing and stress management. She provides insightful analysis on how these environments encourage excessive drinking, often at the expense of employee well-being, productivity, and mental health. Tabin’s book offers a compelling call to action for businesses to reexamine their relationship with alcohol, advocating for inclusive policies that support healthier lifestyles.

Tabbin emphasizes that a shift in corporate attitudes towards alcohol not only boosts employee health but also cultivates a more supportive, productive, and vibrant workplace culture.

Whether you’re on your own path to sobriety, navigating the pressures of an alcohol-centric career, or looking to inspire change in your workplace, this episode offers actionable insights, heartwarming stories, and a fresh perspective on the transformative power of choosing an alcohol-free life.

You can order Tabbin’s book here.

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Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy @butjesusdrankwine

You can find this episode on YouTube HERE

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Join Meade and Christy as they continue chatting about why understanding our relationship to alcohol requires, first, that we understand our relationship to our minds. 

They’ll answer questions like: What are “stories?” Where do they come from? How do we uncover them if they’re unconscious? How do we change them? How do we think about our thinking? Why are we thinking about thinking if we want to change a behavior? And why willpower doesn’t work! What are some practical ways for digging into this heady (pun-intended!) topic?

Scripture References ~

Philippians 4:4

 
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Thank you for listening! xx

Our hope for you at the But Jesus Drank Wine pod is that you’ll walk away from these conversations feeling a little lighter, a little more curious and a whole lot more HOPE for finding freedom from alcohol–or whatever it is that is keeping you stuck in your B- life. Because Sister, YOU were created by our loving Father for so much more! 

We can do hard things infinitely longer as long as we don’t go it alone! Head over to www.butjesusdrankwine.com to get all the details on how to connect with Meade and Christy and others. Subscribe to the mailing list, join the BJDW community and holler over on Instagram. 

#sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity

Resources mentioned in today’s episode:

Byron Katie

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Join Meade and Christy as they chat about why understanding our relationship to alcohol requires, first, that we understand our relationship to our minds. 

They’ll answer questions like: What do minds do? What is the difference between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind? What are “meanings” and what influences them? What is cognitive dissonance? What does it look like? Why is it so painful and what do we do about it? How do we bring awareness to thoughts and feelings? What does the Bible say about our minds? What is meditation? Are we allowed to meditate as Christians? And what’s any of this have to do with changing our drinking?! 

Scripture References ~

Romans 12:2 

Psalm 46:10

 
Connect with Meade and Christy HERE.
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Thank you for listening! xx

Our hope for you at the But Jesus Drank Wine pod is that you’ll walk away from these conversations feeling a little lighter, a little more curious and a whole lot more HOPE for finding freedom from alcohol–or whatever it is that is keeping you stuck in your B- life. Because Sister, YOU were created by our loving Father for so much more! 

We can do hard things infinitely longer as long as we don’t go it alone! Head over to www.butjesusdrankwine.com to get all the details on how to connect with Meade and Christy and others. Subscribe to the mailing list, join the BJDW community and holler over on Instagram. 

#sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity

Resources mentioned in today’s episode:

Dr. Jud Brewer on "Everyday Addictions"

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Join Meade and Christy over the next two episodes as they each share so openly what it looked like to be miserably stuck in the drinking cycle - back when they thought they “must be alcoholics” - and learn all about how they found their way to freedom! 

They’ll answer all the burning questions they get asked on the reg: What did life as a “problem” drinker look like in general—and in the church? When and what was their “rock bottom?” What were the biggest fears they had in quitting drinking? How did their friends who drink receive the news that they didn’t drink anymore? How long did it take to find freedom from alcohol? What changed after they became AF - in their marriages, social circles, motherhood? What stayed the same? What have they found to be the best and worst parts of living, not just alcohol-free, but completely FREE from alcohol? There is a difference!!! 

While both Meade and Christy have shared their stories many times, in many places, and “knew” each other’s story, they hadn’t ever chatted about all the juicy details with each other choosing to save it all for the pod. We at the pod hope you’ll enjoy listening in as much as they enjoyed hearing each other’s stories live for the first time!

 
Connect with Meade and Christy HERE.
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Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy

Thank you for listening! xx

Our hope for you at the But Jesus Drank Wine pod is that you’ll walk away from these conversations feeling a little lighter, a little more curious and a whole lot more HOPE for finding freedom from alcohol–or whatever it is that is keeping you stuck in your B- life. Because Sister, YOU were created by our loving Father for so much more! 

We can do hard things infinitely longer as long as we don’t go it alone! Head over to www.butjesusdrankwine.com to get all the details on how to connect with Meade and Christy and others. Subscribe to the mailing list, join the BJDW community and holler over on Instagram. 

#sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Join Meade and Christy for the second of two episodes where they each share what it looked like to be miserably stuck in the drinking cycle - back when they thought for sure they “must be alcoholics” - and learn all about how they found their way to freedom!

They answer all the burning questions they get asked on the reg: What did life as a “problem” drinker look like in general—and in the church? When and what was their “rock bottom?” What were the biggest fears they had in quitting drinking? How did their friends who drink receive the news that they didn’t drink anymore? How long did it take to find freedom from alcohol? What changed after they became AF - in their marriages, social circles, motherhood? What stayed the same? What have they found to be the best and worst parts of living, not just alcohol-free, but completely FREE from alcohol? There is a difference!!! 

While both Meade and Christy have shared their stories many times in many places and “knew” each other’s story, they hadn’t ever chatted about all the juicy details with each other choosing to save it all for the pod. We at the pod hope you’ll enjoy listening in as much as they enjoyed hearing each other’s stories live for the first time. 

There’s a lot packed into these episodes and yet they both were left with so many questions. Stay tuned for future episodes where they’ll go even deeper into all.the.things! 

 
Connect with Meade and Christy HERE.
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Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy

Thank you for listening! xx

Our hope for you at the But Jesus Drank Wine pod is that you’ll walk away from these conversations feeling a little lighter, a little more curious and a whole lot more HOPE for finding freedom from alcohol–or whatever it is that is keeping you stuck in your B- life. Because Sister, YOU were created by our loving Father for so much more! 

We can do hard things infinitely longer as long as we don’t go it alone! Head over to www.butjesusdrankwine.com to get all the details on how to connect with Meade and Christy and others. Subscribe to the mailing list, join the BJDW community and holler over on Instagram. 

#sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Join Meade and Christy as they have a super honest (and fun!) conversation about 40th birthdays, celebration, all things fun and how what they had always envisioned for their 40th birthdays wasn’t exactly what they ended up being. What was surprising to them as they did their birthdays differently and how does that relate to one of the greatest and most unexpected gifts of finding freedom from alcohol? They explore the influence of the unconscious expectations we have for birthdays and how relief from the pressure we feel to do it “big” (not just pertaining to birthdays but in life!) can be felt by asking a few simple questions. Listen in for the shocking admission they make related to their kids and how that is being used for good, now. And be sure not to miss why it’s totally ok to roll your eyes at what they talk about at the end! 

 
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Thank you for listening! xx

Our hope for you at the But Jesus Drank Wine pod is that you’ll walk away from these conversations feeling a little lighter, a little more curious and a whole lot more HOPE for finding freedom from alcohol–or whatever it is that is keeping you stuck in your B- life. Because Sister, YOU were created by our loving Father for so much more! 

We can do hard things infinitely longer as long as we don’t go it alone! Head over to www.butjesusdrankwine.com to get all the details on how to connect with Meade and Christy and others. Subscribe to the mailing list, join the BJDW community and holler over on Instagram. 

#sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity

Resources mentioned in today’s episode:

You Keep Getting Better - Maverick City Music

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Join Meade and Christy as they chat about one of the scariest and most frequently asked questions when taking a break from alcohol or newly stepping into freedom from alcohol life. What do I tell people? They explore things like what to do when someone offers you a drink and you’re not drinking. What to do when people question why you’re not drinking. And also and maybe more importantly what NOT to do learning from where Meade and Christy definitely got it wrong. They answer questions like, how long does it really take to become confident not drinking in social situations? Why do people even care that we’re not drinking and you’ll hear  why it has nothing to do with us. Not just speculatively but because they both in the past were the people who gave others a hard time for not drinking. They also discuss the importance of planning ahead for AFFTs (alcohol-free first times) and how tools like visualization and “cheesy” scavenger hunts can make all the difference between a good night out and a bad one. We hope you’ll enjoy this episode as much as they enjoyed recording it! 

 
Connect with Meade and Christy HERE.
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Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy

Thank you for listening! xx

Our hope for you at the But Jesus Drank Wine pod is that you’ll walk away from these conversations feeling a little lighter, a little more curious and a whole lot more HOPE for finding freedom from alcohol–or whatever it is that is keeping you stuck in your B- life. Because Sister, YOU were created by our loving Father for so much more! 

We can do hard things infinitely longer as long as we don’t go it alone! Head over to www.butjesusdrankwine.com to get all the details on how to connect with Meade and Christy and others. Subscribe to the mailing list, join the BJDW community and holler over on Instagram. 

#sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.

Join Meade and Christy as they tackle this big topic that shows up as one of the most common stories that we tell ourselves about what alcohol “does for us.” They explore why it’s so hard to explore this story and why it feels really true for us. How did we come to believe this? What does connection with friends, husbands, kids and the Lord look like when free from alcohol and is it different than when in the drinking cycle? What were the hardest parts of trying to connect newly free from alcohol and what were some of the unexpected gifts? And how do we even begin to tackle this story when it feels so hard to imagine that it isn’t true? This is a not-to-miss conversation that will no doubt continue as an ongoing conversation for future episodes. 

 
Connect with Meade and Christy HERE.
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Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy

Thank you for listening! xx

Our hope for you at the But Jesus Drank Wine pod is that you’ll walk away from these conversations feeling a little lighter, a little more curious and a whole lot more HOPE for finding freedom from alcohol–or whatever it is that is keeping you stuck in your B- life. Because Sister, YOU were created by our loving Father for so much more! 

We can do hard things infinitely longer as long as we don’t go it alone! Head over to www.butjesusdrankwine.com to get all the details on how to connect with Meade and Christy and others. Subscribe to the mailing list, join the BJDW community and holler over on Instagram. 

#sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.