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The Murdaugh Trial Autopsy Review | Official Findings: The Best of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan 09 Dec 202400:30:17

We revisit the Murdaugh trial in which South Carolina lawyer, Alex Murdaugh, is currently facing trial for the murder of his wife Maggie, and his son Paul. As the trial continues, we are learning more information about the nature of the crimes and how exactly they played out.In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host  Dave Mack discuss the specifics of both Paul and Maggie’s injuries, why the prosecution uses diagrams vs. photographs when showing evidence in court, whether Paul had any defensive wounds, and much more. 

 

 

 

 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro1:18 - Background and overview of the case

2:35 - Using diagrams in court vs. photographs

6:05 - Paul Murdaugh’s injuries

11:15 - The second shot to Paul Murdaugh’s head

14:50 - Paul’s face left intact

19:25 - Were there any type of defensive wounds on Paul?

20:30 - Maggie Murdaugh’s injuries

23:30 - Stippling around Maggie’s wounds

26:00 - Shot to the abdomen

29:00 - Was this overkill?

31:00 - Wrap up and outro

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JFK - 61 Years and Autopsy Questions Still Remain: The Best of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan 06 Dec 202400:56:33

November 22, 1963: John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, was shot and killed during a presidential motorcade in Dallas, Texas.The President is taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital.

By law, Dallas County Coroner Dr. Earl Rose had jurisdiction over the case and should have performed the autopsy. However, against Dr. Earl Rose's protestations, the body of President Kennedy was wrapped in a sheet, placed in a casket with a broken handle, and flown over 1,300 miles away to Washington DC, where 2 naval doctors, who had never conducted a forensic autopsy performed the autopsy on John F. Kennedy. 


Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close look at the autopsy that was so bad, 60years later questions are still being asked. 

 

 

 

 

Time Code Highlights
00:00:10 Introduction 
00:01:21 The ripple effect of the assassination of JFk
00:04:31 The moments following the shooting of JFK in Dealey Plaza
00:06:02 Talk about how autopsy "Standard Procedures" were not followed 
00:06:51 Texas state law and jurisdiction over investigation and autopsy
00:07:58 Board Certified Forensic Pathologist Doctor Earl Rose was chief medical examiner for Dallas, Texas at the time and was at Parkland Memorial Hospital
00:09:22 JFK body taken from Dallas to Washington DC for autopsy
00:10:59 Secret Service preparing for President trips.
00:11:36 JFK physical condition after being shot.
00:12:52 Injuries to JFK, at least 2 gunshot wounds. 
00:13:31 Tracheotomy that was performed to establish an airway
00:15:04  Dr. Earl Rose and how his experience was dismissed
00:16:23 Dr. Earl Rose KNEW he was looking at a Murder Investigation.
00:17:47 Discussion Dallas County had jurisdiction over the body.
00:19:03 Talk about autopsy of JFK should have taken place in Dallas
00:20:08 Previous Presidential assassination, Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley and their autopsies.
00:22:10 Dr. Earl Rose did the autopsy for Oswald, Officer Tippit, and Jack Ruby.
00:23:36  JFK body being taken to Washington DC 
00:25:16 Comparing Bethesda Naval Hospital to Walter Reed Hospital 
00:26:04 doctors chosen to perform JFK autopsy
00:28:42 why doctors turned bullet wound into tracheostomy
00:29:55  Presidents body wrapped in sheets. Head wrapped in gauze
00:31:09  JFK clothing, tie changed the trajectory of round.
00:32:58  Other clothing worn during the assassination
00:33:44  "magic bullet" going through JFK and Governor Connally, 
00:35:08 Secret Service agents washed interior of Presidential limo. 
00:36:03 Talk about crime scenes - bone fragments found and turned in later
00:37:02 Description of President's head, skull came apart in doctors hands.
00:38:04 Discussion of Assessment
00:40:02 Talk about x-rays that were done on body
00:41:58  Description of the Bethesda autopsy suite 
00:43:51 Ballistics expert Dr. Pierre Fink, forensic pathologist, came to Bethesda 
00:44:53  JFK brain was removed before Dr. Fink arrived
00:46:05 Description of "Brain Loafing".
00:47:22 The autopsy of JFK was not a complete autopsy
00:49:21 Discussion of "family wishes" as it applies to the murder of the president.
00:50:48 Compare autopsy of John F. Kennedy and Robert F Kennedy
00:52:36 Discussion about other pathologists available to do autopsy on JFK
00:55:09 No way to know if other injuries suffered by JFK could have been lethal
00:56:04 Commentary - no excuse for what happened with autopsy of JFK

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Body of Missing Mom Found Wrapped In Sheet: Who Killed Madeline Kingsbury19 Nov 202400:43:43

Madeline Jane Kingsbury, 26, and Adam Fravel, 29, are no longer a couple but they are still living together while Kingsbury looks for a place to live.  Kingsbury and Fravel take their two children, ages 5 and 2, to daycare on March 31, around 8am and return home at 8:15am. Madeline Kingsbury is never seen leaving the house, but she mysteriously vanishes. Just over two months later, on June 7, 2023, the remains of Madeline Kingsbury are found near property owned by the parents of Adam Fravel. Joseph Scott Morgan takes a look at the case and determines what caused the death of a 26-year-old mother of two whose remains have been left to decompose for over two months. 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights

00:10.14 Introduction 

05:00.51 Madeline Kingsbury - vanishes after dropping children off at daycare 

10:02.20 Madeline and Adam Fravel are breaking-up but still living together

15:02.91 Investigators build a timeline starting with March 31, 2023

20:02.78 Population density of Winona, farming communities, big search area

25:06.37 Early into investigation police said her disappearance is involuntary

30:30.69 Body found obscured in a culvert

35:20.79 Madeline's body wrapped in fitted sheet matching other sheeting used in her home

40:01.77 Cause of death - homicidal violence
 
43:03.24 Conclusion

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Deadly First Date: Dinner, Drinks, Dismemberment- The Sade Robinson Murder24 Apr 202400:39:50

Sade Robinson is having fun on her first date with a new guy. They pose together and post the picture to social media. Sade had no idea she was taking a picture with the devil and she only had hours to live.

In this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the killer sealed his fate by trying to destroy evidence with fire.

Transcribe Highlights 

00:22.97 Introduction Milwaukee 

05:01.65. Talk about Jeffrey Dahmer 

07:29.72 Discussion of dismemberment 

09:53.60 Talk about getting rid of smell with tires 

14:06.81 Discussion of finding leg 

 20:10.93 Talk about remains being compromised  

25:18.19. Breaking down the timeline  

30:30.67. Discussion of other women missing 

34:38.48 Talk about fire inside a car 

36:38.64 Discussion of witness who saw person use lighter to start car fire 

39:33.42 Conclusion – how remains will tell what really happened to Sade 

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Ex-Girlfriend or Cop Cover-Up; Who Killed John O’Keefe23 Apr 202400:46:53

Boston Cop John O'Keefe and his girlfriend Karen Read go on a pub crawl before ending their the night at the home of a Boston cop friend of O'Keefe's at 12:45 am. 6 hours later, the body of John O'Keefe is found in the front yard of the house, covered in snow in blizzard conditions. He is wearing two shirts, jeans, socks and one shoe. Near his body on the snow are shards of glass and splotches of blood. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will take an up close look at the injuries and find out what really happened to John O'Keefe. Dave Mack will breakdown the story that has divided Boston and together they will try to answer the question: Who Killed John O'Keefe?

 

 

Transcribed Highlights 

00:01.10   Introduction, talk about weather conditions and murder 

02:05.22 Discussion of Karen Read case 

05:05.56 Talk about Media coverage 

09:09.25 Discussion of forensics role in investigation 

14:06.82 Talk about background of relationship 

16:16.35 Breaking down timeline of events 

19:50.94 Discussion of physical injuries   

21:07.56 Talk about Blood Alcohol 

25:20.82 Talk about leaving bar, going to house party 

30:09.48 Talk about Text Messages, getting directions 

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Missing Moms: Bodies Found18 Apr 202400:42:29

Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley vanish on their way to pick up Veronica’s children to go to a birthday party. They were supposed to meet up with Veronica Butler’s ex-mother-in-law at a closed gas station in rural Texas County, Oklahoma. But they never make it. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how evidence from blood to tire treads will help solve the mystery of the Missing Moms.  

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of shared custody 

00:03:10 Discussion or relationships and death 

00:06:50 Talk about terrain 

00:11:03 Discussion of moms reported missing 

00:14:08 Talk about how vehicle ended up where it is found 

00:18:46 Discussion of evidence found at scene 

00:23:21Talk about tire tread identification 

00:27:47 Discussion of term “puddle of blood” 

00:31:16 Discussion of meeting place 

00:34:16 Talk about SWAT Teams showing up in Rural County 

00:38:44 Talk about death penalty states 

00:40:56 Discussion identifying body 

00:42:29 Conclusion 

 

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IDENTIFIED: Green River Killer’s Final Victim17 Apr 202400:38:10

For years she was labeled “Bones 20” the unidentified victim of the Green River Killer. But now, thanks to police work and Othram Labs, the victim has been named as Tammy Liles. She was from Everett, Washington, and vanished in the summer of 1983. She was only 16 years old when she became a victim of serial killer Gary Ridgeway. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take you behind the headlines and into the lab that helped give a name to a young lady who spent decades being called “bones 20”.  

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights  

00:0:16 Introduction – The Green River Killer last victim identified 

00:02:28 Talk about age reference  

00:06:32 Discussion of high-profile murders 

00:10:48 Talk about the Green River Killer 16-year-old victim 

00:15:56 Discussion of identifying remains 

00:20:54 Discussion of the Green River Killer evidence 

00:25:58 Talk about starting with incomplete skeleton 

00:29:41 Discussion of Genetic Genealogy 

00:34:51 Talking about Othram labs 

00:37:39 Conclusion; might be the most noble of pursuits 

 

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Killer Tortures New Mom To Death, Leaves Her Infant Alone To Starve16 Apr 202400:31:55

Destiny Duckett’s cousin couldn’t reach her by phone, so she stopped by her apartment to check on her. The cousin knocks on the door, but Destiny doesn’t answer. The cousin can hear the baby crying and she is worried. She calls police to do a welfare check and when they enter Destiny Duckett’s apartment, her 8-week old son is on the bed, crying, and his 22-year-old mother is on the floor, dead. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will look into the mysterious death of 22-year-old new mother, Destiny Duckett and Joseph Scott Morgan  will explain how fingernails play a keep part in solving the murder. 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of case 

00:02:20 Discussion of fingernails  

00:05:37 Talk about cousin called police, heard baby crying 

00:10:56 Discussion of protective order leading to arrest of suspect  

00:15:26 Talk about leaving crying baby on the bed, alone, mother dead on floor 

00:19:43 Discussion of body being the biggest evidence 

00:24:16 Discussion of proving knees were on chest of victim 

00:28:26 Talk about fingernail marks on the neck 

00:33:55 Discussion of why suspect was already in jail 

00:36:33 Conclusion – Convicted, sentencing to come 

 

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44-Years of Mystery, Dismembered Torso Identified, “You Found My Brother”11 Apr 202400:36:01

A bag with a burned, dismembered torso is found by a boy out for a horseback ride about a mile from town. The police chief says he was mowing his lawn when he got the call about the headless, armless, legless, burned torso, and from that moment on it was "chaos". On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of the dismembered and burned torso and how, after 44-years, he was finally identified with DNA and Othram labs.

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of episode 

00:02:13 Talk about identifying Joseph Caliva 

00:06:15 Discussion of years beginning in 1979 

00:10:40 Talk about dismemberment 

00:15:48 Discussion of what was found 

00:17:39 Talk about burned remains 

00:22:25 Discussion about trying to ID person 

00:27:25 Talk about finding portions of the torso 

00:31:54 Talk about creating a person out of evidence 

00:36:34 Discussion after 44 years, victim identified 

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Abused at 8, Murdered at 13; The Sad, Short Life of Madeline Soto10 Apr 202400:39:44

AUTOPSY REPORT WILL NOT BE RELEASED. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happened to Madeline Soto and Dave Mack will dig into the back story of the entire family. You will find out by the time she reached 13-years-old, Madeline Soto had already been sexually abused for years. When she was a “missing 13-year-old" from Florida, the news covered every tidbit of information about the search for the teen. One piece of evidence that made it to the press was how Madeline Soto told a friend when she turned 13, she was going to live in the woods. That is why police searched the woods for Madeline.  

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:28 Introduction, talk about parents protecting children 

00:04:28 Talk about Madeline Soto saying she wanted to live in the woods 

00:05:31 Discussion of ages 12 and 13 

00:09:04 Discussion of Madeline not taking cell phone 

00:12:29 Talk about family being told about evidence 

00:16:42 Discussion of time children go to school 

00:20:07 Discussion of Madeline Soto seen in vehicle 

00:21:49 Talk about being haunted by evidence 

00:26:26 Discussion of Madeline Soto 

00:30:26 Talk about video surveillance of suspect 

00:33:22 Discussion of 60 charges against suspect  

00:37:32 Discussion of evidence of previous abuse 

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Pregnant EMT Dies in House Fire - Tragic Accident or Murder?09 Apr 202400:43:40

The fire department shows up at the home of one of their own and find Melissa Lamesch unconscious on the kitchen floor as her home goes up in flames around her. She is on maternity leave from her job as an EMT and is expecting her baby to be born any day. Melissa Lamesch and her unborn baby die in what authorities believe is asphyxiation from the fire. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will breakdown how trying to burn evidence of a crime, oftentimes creates the evidence needed for conviction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction of fire set to cover-up a murder 

00:01:18 Talk about fire and smoke 

00:03:10 Discussion of smoke as evidence 

00:05:05 Discussion of woman, 9 months pregnant, dying in a fire 

00:08:35 Talk about how healing takes place after being burned  

00:11:26 Discussion of hair catching fire in bathroom 

00:14:43 Victim is on maternity leave from job as EMT 

00:18:53 Discussion of the mother and her baby 

00:22:53 Discussion of monoxide 

00:28:01 Talk about suffocation 

00:33:33 Discussion of fire splash patterns 

00:36:55 Talk about the family talking to officials after the fire 

00:40:46 Discussion of dealing with the death of pregnant mother 

00:43:10 Conclusion, Matthew Plote convicted for Murder  

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Home Invasion Hoax: The Death of Thomas Waddell04 Apr 202400:39:20

Deborah Frazier calls 911 and tells them two burglars have shot her boyfriend, and as she is on the phone, a gunshot is heard and Frazier tells the dispatcher she has been shot in the leg by one of the burglars.

Police arrive and discover the first person shot, Mr. Thomas Waddell, is in the back room of his apartment, wrapped in a blanket and a garbage bag and secured with duct tape.

On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain all of the things police will have to believe for Deborah Frazier's story to be true and Dave Mack will explain how Frazier was using a second boyfriend to con Mr Waddell out of his life savings!

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:42 Talk about everything that has to be believed for the story to be true 

00:02:48 Discussion of not believing a story 

00:04:20 Discussion of “victim” shooting her boyfriend in the head 

00:05:53 Talk about cases too difficult to believe 

00:10:54 Talk about self-inflicted gunshot wound 

00:14:19 Discussion of the victim who just retired 

00:18:54 Talk about determining how long person has been dead 

00:23:19 Discuss investigation of digital background 

00:28:34 Talk about GSR test 

00:33:02 Discussion of police on scene, gunshot recorded 

00:37:57 Discussion of what has to be believed by investigators 

00:40:12 Talk about Pictures of a life shared, scattered on the floor 

 

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Jack-in-the-Box Murder Mystery Becomes Fugitive Wife Murder Trial02 Apr 202400:41:01

Burned remains of a man found inside a foot locker and left in a blueberry field in Michigan were not identified for 13 years. In 2015 the case was called  "The Jack-in-the-Box Murder because it was a catchy title. The remains were not identified until the Ottawa County Sheriff's Office received a tip in 2015 that gave them the information they needed to use dental records to identify the deceased as Robert Caraballo. Investigating Caraballo's life at the time of his death took investigators to the home he shared with his wife and stepdaughter. Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the forensics that brought this case to a conclusion and Dave Mack will help tell the story of how the Jack-in-the-Box Murder became The Fugitive Wife Murder Trial. 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:44 Introduction of story a burned body in a trunk found in blueberry field 

00:02:40 Talk about conspiracy and escaping to other side of the planet 

00:05:28 Discussion of victim being alive with hammer stuck in skull 

00:08:02 Discussion of injury caused by falling downstairs 

00:12:34 Talk about how remains could not be identified 

00:15:11 Discussion of evidence in hammer attack 

00:19:49 Discussion of hitting head with a hammer 

00:23:51Talk about how the skull breaks 

00:28:19 Discussion of destroying a body 

00:32:37 Discussion of “old school” identifying remains 

00:35:15 Talk about the plan to push victim down the stairs, hit him with a bat 

00:35:53 Talk about the conspiracy 

00:38:01 Discussion of law in Italy for hotel guests 

00:39:15 Discussion of cover-up 

00:40:06 Beverly McCallum guilty on all charges 

00:40:42 Talk about keeping a secret 

 

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Shocking Details! Kansas Moms Update: AUTOPSY OF JILLIAN KELLEY14 Nov 202400:54:59

Jillian Kelley, 39, and Veronica Butler, 27, disappeared in late March while on a trip from Hugoton, Kansas, to pick up Butler’s children. Their abandoned car was found 3-miles from their intended location and there are signs of struggle near and in the vehicle. On April 14, nearly two weeks after they went missing, investigators discovered their bodies sealed inside a freezer and buried under concrete in a remote area of a leased field. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain the details of Jillian Kelley's autopsy, what it is like to find two bodies in one location, buried together, and what new information is known after going over the autopsy report. 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights

00:00:11.31. Introduction - update Kansas Moms 

00:01:31.84  Jillian Kelley Autopsy

00:03:18.70 Explanation of custody arrangements

00:06:47.31 Autopsy room

00:11:28.26 Freezer with bodies inside dropped into a hole that is 10 feet deep

00:16:12.44 Looking at the tracks around the area where freezer was buried

00:21:31.67 Opening the freezer in the lab

00:26:29.62 Know idea of what type of evidence will be recovered 

00:31:30.98 Veronica Butler Autopsy expected later, Jillian Kelley Autopsy now

00:36:02.75 Veronica Butler body on top of Kelley. Bodies removed

00:41:04.70.Kelley has defensive wounds, grabbed blade of knife with her hand

00:46:03.01 Difficult to determine the order of when injuries occurred

00:51:02.87 Injury with hemorrhage
 
00:54:54.03 Conclusion: another update when Veronica Butler autopsy released

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Dead in a Bathtub: Warm Water, Cold Body - Suicide or Murder?28 Mar 202400:36:13

Suicide or Murder?  Kendy Howard is found in a bathtub full of water with a gunshot wound to the head.  His body is cold, but the water in the tub is warm!  Red Flag number one.  On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take a look at all of the "Red Flags" present in the reported suicide of Kendy Howard.  Why is there so little blood in the water? Why is her ex-trooper husband arrested at the airport? The biggest question of all, is the death of Kendy Howard a Suicide or Murder?

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:27 Joe talks about admiration for Troopers 

00:03:03 Discussion of law enforcement 

00:05:59 Discussion of “Red Flags” 

00:08:14 Talk about the water is warm, body is cold 

00:12:23 Investigation of suicide/murder 

00:16:33 Discussion of damage caused by gunshot in mouth 

00:17:49 Talk about direction of bullet 

00:21:26 Comparing murder of Travis Alexander 

00:25:53 Defining different types of asphyxiation 

00:30:08 Talk about injuries “frozen in time” 

00:35:33 Discussion of how much blood would be expected 

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Headless Corpse Autopsy: Victim Alive When Head was Severed?26 Mar 202400:43:55

The victim was alive when her head was cut from her body. As disturbing as that sounds, today's episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan will attempt to breakdown the just released autopsy report of Mei Li Haskell. Her husband, Samuel Haskell IV is accused of killing her, removing her head from her torso, placing the torso in a bag and dropping it in a trash bin where a homeless guy would find it 14 hours later! Joseph Scott Morgan will breakdown the forensics that will come into the trial and Dave Mack will dig deep in the Hollywood that can give us a true horror story that is scarier than anyone would ever dare put on film.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:49 The son of a hotshot 

00:03:04 “Don’t you know who I am?” 

00:05:03 Discussion of “the finder” 

00:08:58 Talk about the bags felt like meat 

00:09:26 Discussion of workers bring back bags 

00:12:20 Discussion of cross contamination 

00:16:58 Talk about hiring workers 

00:20:56 Discussion of what police can do 

00:26:22 Talk about the person who found the body 

00:30:54 Mentions victim’s parents still missing 

00:33:01 Discuss autopsy report, victim alive when head cut off 

00:38:20 Discussion of using power tools in dismemberment 

00:42:54 Mentions trial will be all forensics 

 

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The Monster is Real: Dad's New Girlfriend Kills Baby with Nail Polish Remover21 Mar 202400:36:30

Iris, 1, comes home from a weekend with her father and his girlfriend and mom finds a water bead in her diaper.

Taking her to the hospital, the toddler passes more water beads, button-shaped batteries, and a screw. Thinking she was finding things and putting them in her mouth, nobody realized a monster was watching the baby.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the case that is more than the murder of a toddler, it's how evil came into the child’s life and plotted and planned her death for more than half of her life.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:20 Introduction 

00:02:39 Discussion of toddlers 

00:04:22 Talk about items in diaper 

00:07:34 Discussion of beads, batteries, screw 

00:10:12 Talk about toddlers putting things in their mouth 

00:14:34 Discussion of solvent 

00:16:18 Discussion of evil 

00:18:27 Talk about taking child to hospital by plane 

00:22:08 Explaining a subdural hematoma 

00:24:01 Discussion of optic nerves 

00:27:16 Talk about how healthy baby dies in 4 days 

00:30:15 Discussion of notes made by doctors and nurses 

00:32:54 Talk about children swallow everyday items 

00:35:31Discussion suspect researched how to beat a polygraph 

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Real Amityville Horror – Two Heads, Other Body Parts Scattered in Long Island19 Mar 202400:36:58

Two severed heads, an arm here, a leg there, on this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, the Reel Amityville Horror will meet the Real Amityville Horror.  A group of Long Island High School students find a severed left arm on the side of a road in Babylon on their way to school. While Police investigate the scene, a K-9 officer locates a leg sticking out of a pile of leaves in a wooded area, not far from the original scene. Over time more body parts were found in multiple areas. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will detail what was found and where and what the suspects were up against when they began writing their own Amityville Horror.

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:07 Introduction – to horror 

00:01:39 Discussion about charges for dismembering a person 

00:04:48 Talk about how the bodies were treated in death 

00:08:03 Discussion of arm with tattoo found in tree limb 

00:11:51 Body part found by high school students on the way to school 

00:15:16 Parts of 2 bodies found, 4 people charged 

00:15:17 None of the 4 people is charged with murder 

00:16:14 Discuss what the ME will have to do with parts  

00:18:04 Talking about Black Dhalia  

00:19:49 Discussion of none of the drains work in the rental 

00:21:30 Discussion of body parts from more than one person 

00:25:11 Talk about unique case 

00:28:51 Joe describes investigation taking place 

00:31:30 Discussion of dismemberment  

00:34:01 Discussion of blood, muscle, skin, hair, Drano won’t work 

00:37:13 Talk about revisiting the case in the future 

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Murder-For-Hire: The Senseless Death of Pregnant Teacher14 Mar 202400:37:18

School Principal Cornelius Green arrives at the Amtrak train station in St. Louis after spending a few days in Chicago. Leaving the train station Green goes to straight to the apartment of his girlfriend, 3rd grade school teacher, Jocelyn Peters. Arriving at her apartment Green finds Peters, who is 7-months pregnant, in bed. He immediately calls 911 and tells them his girlfriend has been shot in the head, send help now! Jocelyn Peters is pronounced dead on the scene and the investigation begins with the person who found her, Cornelius Green. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the story that leads to stolen school funds, a hitman, and a potato gun silencer, on this episode of Body Bags.

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:57 Joe talks about the impact of 3rd grade teacher 

00:03:12 Discussion of victim 

00:08:54 Discussion of Green sending money to Cutler 

00:11:23 Talk about alibi set up by Green taking train to Chicago 

00:14:20 Discussion about finding pregnant woman shot in the head 

00:16:02 Talk about investigation, alibi  

00:19:50 Talk about no sign of forced entry 

00:23:18 Discussion of “potato silencer” 

00:28:12 Talking about objects changing trajectory 

00:32:30 Discussion of Federal and State charges  

00:36:29 Discuss Phillip Cutler in court 

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At The Hands of The Student: The Murder of Colleen Ritzer12 Mar 202400:30:34

When Phillip Chism, 14, doesn't come home from school, his mother calls the police to report him missing.

As the town begins to look for the 9th grader, word spreads around town that a 24-year-old teacher, Colleen Ritzer, is also missing. Chism is found walking along a road just after midnight. After a quick search of his backpack,  he is arrested.

Later in the morning, Colleen Ritzer's body is found on school grounds, sexually positioned with a folded note next to her body that says, "I hate you all."

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the story of the student from Tennessee and the horrifying final moments in the life of Colleen Ritzer.

 

Transcription Highlights 

00:01:00 Introduction of location, suspect, and victim 

00:02:53 Suspect is student, 14, victim is a teacher 

00:04:04 Discussion of suspect family 

00:08:22 Talk about motive and possible “trigger” 

00:11:49 Discussion of why victim went to public bathroom 

00:15:28 Discussion of witness and surveillance video 

00:19:07 Talk about investigation, pinging cell phones 

00:21:47 Discussion of suspect on surveillance video  

00:27:25 Talk about body being covered  

00:30:36 Breaking down the evidence 

00:34:35 Discussion of sentence 

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Jealousy, Murder, Death Sentence: The Conviction of Christa Pike07 Mar 202400:39:38

Christa Pike was 18-years-old when she thought her 19-year-old job corps classmate, Colleen Slemmer, was trying to steal her boyfriend, Tadaryl Shipp. Pike spent over 30-minutes beating Colleen Slemmer with her hands and feet, as well as a box cutter and a meat cleaver. Slemmer tried to escape. Shipp,17, caught her so Pike could continue the beating. Pike carved a pentagram into Slemmer's chest, used the box cutter to slice her throat. When she didn't die, Pike picked up a chunk of asphalt and slammed it onto Slemmer's head. The next day Pike brought a piece of Slemmer's skull to breakfast and told classmates what she had done. Convicted of murder and sentenced to death, Christa Pike now wants a judge to vacate her death sentence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack detail the story that Joe Scott says is the worst case he has ever seen. 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:31 Joseph Scott Morgan says he has never seen a crime so vile 

00:02:10 Woman on death row in Tennessee  

00:05:16 Talk about dynamic between suspects and victim 

00:10:09 Description of box cutter and meat cleaver  

00:15:03 Discussion of pentagram carved into chest 

00:20:56 Description of wounds to victim 

00:25:15 Talk about how to occult and satanism factor into case 

00:30:40 Description of taking piece of skull as a trophy 

00:35:50 Discussion about letting murderer out of prison 

00:39:15 Talk about sadistic murder 

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Murdered While Jogging: The Death of Laken Riley05 Mar 202400:36:18

The senseless murder of Laken Riley on the campus of the University of Georgia has the nation talking about everything from safety on a college campus to immigration.

Laken Riley didn't know the man who killed her, but she knew she was in a dire situation when they met. Jose Antonio Ibarra, 26, allegedly attacked and killed the 22-year-old while she was out for a jog in Athens.

Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the evidence in the case points to Laken Riley attempting to call 911 and Dave Mack will fill in the blanks on the timeline on this edition of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights

00:15.71 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about college life

02:39.50 Talk about nursing school, education

05:33.55 Discussion of victim 
 
09:56.27 Talk about timeline

14:03.73 Talk about seeing victim as an object

18:54.67 Discussion of blunt force trauma

22:13.70 Suspect arrives in USA illegally

31:20.86 Talk about apartment search

36:08.59 Discuss How suspect and victim were strangers

40:30.36 First Homicide at UGA in 30 years

 

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Murder or Suicide: The Wild Life and Sad Death of Alex Pennig29 Feb 202400:44:38

A Minnesota man claims his mistress fatally shot herself with his gun. The question of Murder or Suicide plays out in this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Joe will walk you through all of the forensic problems with the story being told. And when everything is said and done, you decide, was it murder, or suicide?

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:20 Would a right-handed person use left hand to shoot 

00:02:19 Discuss murder or suicide 

00:04:15 Talk about “accidental” 

00:05:51Discuss science and determination 

00:11:16 How quick does a body become stiff 

00:13:50 Different jurisdictions 

00:18:25 Talk about the scene 

00:21:40 Difference in suicide among genders 

00:26:27Discuss drying blood 

00:29:31Discuss ER Nurse can’t do CPR 

00:33:14 Talk about short timeline 

00:38:50 Discuss can you wash away evidence? 

00:41:36 Talk about skin, brain, muzzle flash  

00:44:14 Discuss desire to help people and achieve and throw it all away 

 

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A Rope, Rock, and a River: The Death of Audrii Cunningham27 Feb 202400:35:24

Audrii Cunningham leaves for the school bus stop just like every morning, but she doesn't get off the bus that afternoon. The family panics. 

Police are called, and an Amber Alert goes out. Neighbors go door to door. A family friend living in a camper in the backyard of Audrii's house joins in the search.

Police find out McDougal was the last person to see Audrii, when he was supposed to take her to the bus stop.  Audrii never got on the bus. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the story of the search and ultimate discovery of 11-year-old Audrii Cunningham, found tied to a rock and thrown in the Trinity River in this edition of Body Bags.

Transcription highlights
00:20.72 Introduction of the case of Audrii Cunningham

01:54.67 Audrii's body tied to rock

03:57.40 Suspect was supposed to drive Audrii to bus stop05:50.16 Audrii was found in general area where her backpack was found

08:31.50 Officials had to ask for river flow to be reduced

12:08.84 Different groups have to share credit in finding Audrii

15:55.43 How will they figure out what McDougal did?

20:14.33 Investigators have not told us the condition of Audrii's body

24:14.42 Discussion of what may have happened to Audrii

28:09.19 Discussion of the company we keep, did her dad know what kind of criminal McDougal is

33:50.15 Talk about how her body may been like a kite on a string

38:07.95 Discussion about DNA under fingernails of Audrii

 

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Beaten, Strangled, Dragged Behind a Car: Who Killed  Melonie White?13 Nov 202400:44:39

On a hot August day in the Nevada desert, two hikers find the body of a young woman about 20 miles east of Las Vegas near the Gypsum Wash in Clark County. The next day, August 28,  the Clark County Coroner’s Office identified the victim as 27-year-old  Melonie White. Her death is listed as homicide due to strangulation and blunt force trauma to the head and police say she was also dragged behind a car before her body was left in the desert. Melonie and her infant son moved to Las Vegas with her boyfriend four months earlier from Phoenix, Arizona. But the boyfriend doesn't get a job and leaves Melonie alone with her baby in Las Vegas. Police investigate the case but fail to develope a viable suspect and the case turns cold. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the case that went unsolved for 30 years has finally been solved with DNA, gentic genealogy, and Othram.

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction - First trip to Las Vegas

02:21.07 Death of Melonie White, 30 year mystery
 
05:06.81 Melonie White beaten, strangled, dragged by car into desert

10:12.12 Brothers report Melonie missing

16:26.41 Police say Melonie was tied to back of car and dragged

21:11.46 Las Vegas is an Oasis surrounded by nothingness

26:05.98 Joe describes other evidence needed 

31:22.50 No Lack of trauma

35:19.83. Very personal attack

40:16.59 Describing solving cold case 

41:34.76 Genetic Genealogy solves murder

44:27.92 Conclusion: Case solved after 30 years

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Man Beats Girlfriend to Death, Drops Sofa on Her Body and Sleeps22 Feb 202400:38:42

Annabel Meenan was only 21, but she had been romantically involved with 33-year-old Leroy Brahm since she was in high school.

Their relationship was filled with abuse but on the final night of her life, video cameras placed around the home recorded every hit with a fist and kick with a foot. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down what happened when Leroy Brahm beat his girlfriend unconscious, dropped a couch on top of her, then laid down on the couch and went to sleep as the weight slowly crushed Annabel.

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:42 Discussion of age 

00:03:00 Talk about Annabel 

00:06:07 Victim had sofa dropped on her 

00:09:24 Talk about cameras recorded every punch 

00:13:38 Discuss the cameras everywhere 

00:18:51 Talk about contusions 

00:21:36 Discuss injuries suffered by the attacker 

00:23:54 Talk about evidence all over the house 

00:28:38 Discussion of ruling death a heart attack 

00:32:23 Surveillance cameras record everything 

00:35:37 Discuss domestic abuser calls 911 

00:37:23 Talk about Annabel is gone too young 

00:38:50 Domestic Abuse Hotline 

 

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The tragic life of Lacey Fletcher, the woman who melted into the couch20 Feb 202400:42:27

Lacey Fletcher was on the volleyball team when she is in 9th grade, and she looks like any other healthy teen. But her parents say she is "on the spectrum" and take her out of school and take her home. For the next 20 years, they don't take their daughter to the doctor, they don't do anything with her until she becomes totally non-verbal. For the last 12 years of her life she didn't move from her spot on the couch, she slept in her spot, she ate in her spot, she went to the bathroom in her spot, and it was rarely cleaned. Lacey Fletcher dies at 36, after withstanding years of pain and suffering. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a look behind the sofa to answer the questions about the woman who melted into the couch.

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights

00:02:40Talking about melting 

00:06:22 Talk about smell of urine, feces, nothing cleaned  

00:09:46 Talk about staying in same spot for years 

00:12:46 Discussion of healthy and active to dead on the couch 

00:15:14 Talk about Lacey Fletcher on the couch 20 years 

00:19:25 Discuss bed sores joining with other bed sores 

00:23:15 Talk about chronic bone infection  

00:27:17 Describing her condition at 36-years-old 

00:31:10 Discussion of weight as Lacey Fletcher weighed 96 pounds 

00:34:53 Talk about maggots in her body 

00:38:56 How did Lacey Fletcher get covid? 

00:42:01 Discussion – she is non-verbal, always in pain, and trapped 

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Missing 2-years before anyone looked; what happened to Harmony Montgomery?15 Feb 202400:59:30

Harmony Montgomery was missing for two years before anyone looked for her. Police began looking for a 7-year-old girl and soon realized they might really be looking for remains of a 5-year-old girl. She is still among the missing but presumed dead. Her father is on trial for her murder. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they investigate the heartbreaking story of a little girl who never had a chance, and the forensics that just might get justice for her yet. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights

01:34.45 Joe talks about memory 

04:22.26 Discussion of years since Harmony has been seen 

07:22.44 Talk about Harmony, looked nervous 

10:09.25 Harmony was never enrolled in school 

14:36.89 Discussion of police find Harmony's Dad 

20:32.13 Talk about moment of clarity 

25:22.45 Discussion of what really happened to Harmony 

31:02.25 Discussion of waiting 2 years to call about child 

35:18.87 Discussion about life lived in a car 

38:25.26 Talk about neither adult checking on Harmony 

43:49.54 Discussion of carrying Harmony 

45:43.17 Finally went too far, hit too hard 

50:51.68 Discussion perfect hiding spot was found 

54:25.15 Discussion about how body is stored 

59:33.43 Talk about using bathtub for dismemberment 

59:19.23 Discussion of what might be found of Harmony 

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SHOCK! The Things Left Behind13 Feb 202400:37:35

The new owners of a house in Colorado are pleasantly surprised to find the previous owners left behind a working freezer in the garage. Pleasure turns to horror as they begin removing bags of frozen meat, and find a human head and hands! Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will explain what it will take to solve the mystery. 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:27Talk about gruesome discovery 

00:02:05 Discussion of yard sale 

00:02:58 Talk about hoarder 

00:04:10 Talk about free working freezer 

00:07:36 Discussion of frozen head 

00:09:23 Talk about getting more than you bargained for 

00:11:21Discussion of calling 911 

00:14:27Discussion about dismemberment show 

00:18:17 Talk about previous homeowners 

00:21:23Discussion about finding the rest of the body 

00:24:28 Neighborhood people talk about coroner on site 

00:27:49 Discussion about all the items that left the area 

C00:30:47Discussion of wrapping the head 

00:33:51Talk about investigation of body parts 

00:37:43 Discussion about freezer slowing decomposition 

00:39:25 We're going to need to follow up on this case. 

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Online Life-Real Life Murder: The Death of Kat West08 Feb 202400:38:47

Jeff and Kat West are a typical American couple living just south of Birmingham Alabama. They have a 12-year-old daughter, Jeff works in security, Kat is a stay at home mom, but she has developed a very successful online business, in adult entertainment. She posts sexy photos on multiple sites and has her own pay site that provides even more adult photos. Jeff often takes the photos for his wife, and she is becoming quite popular online. Everything seems fine when Jeff and Kat go out for date night, photos of the couple in a store that evening show them lovingly touching one another.  How is it possible that the next morning as the sun comes up, Kat West's lifeless body is found laying out in the front yard of her house with a bottle of absinthe placed on her broken phone right next to her posed body. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take you through the last night in the life of Kat West. 

 

 

 

Transcribe Highlights 

00:00:05 Origin of things 

00:01:46 Talk about a different kind of fairy 

00:02:29 Discussion of life 

00:03:16 Talk about very special drink 

00:05:59 Discussion setting up a scene 

00:10:54 Talk about date night 

00:12:50 Discussion strong alcohol 

00:16:48 Talk about Jeff and Kat playful at store 

00:19:42 Discussion of intimate photos, sharing 

00:22:32 Talk theory Jeff West beat his wife 

00:25:32 Discussion of Stalkers  

00:29:37 Talk tiny details in investigation 

00:34:02 Discussion of two primary spots of blood 

00:38:58 Talk about holding bottle as weapon 

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Abandoned in Concrete: Georgia's Baby Jane Doe06 Feb 202400:35:10

A road crew in south west Georgia finds on old console tv at an illegal dumpsite on the side of a country highway. As they try to move the tv, the workers find a suitcase inside, and it is too heavy to just be filled with clothes. As they open the suitcase they open up a mystery that will last decades. Inside the suitcase is cement, and poking out of the cement, the body of a small child. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will help tell the story of Baby Jane Doe, the girl thrown away like garbage, and the people who spent 35-years trying to find out her name. 

 

Transcribe Highlights 

00:00:37 Trash Dump off the side of road 

00:01:46 Talk about abandoned child  

00:02:29 Discussion of life 

00:03:16 Talk about the case, started in 1988 

00:05:59 Discussion of area 

00:10:54 Talk about getting body out of cement 

00:13:30 Discussion of cement wouldn’t encase everything 

00:16:48 Talk about mixing concrete and body 

00:19:42 Evidence at scene leads to home 

00:22:32 Talk about body breaking down in cement 

00:25:32 Discussion of investigators  

00:28:37 Talk about technology catching up  

00:31:02 This case hasn’t been to trial yet 

00:33:58 Talk about Genetic Genealogy 

00:35:39 Discussion can there be justice  

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Humane Death or Dangerous Experiment: Nitrogen Gas Execution tried for first time01 Feb 202400:40:57

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of a murder and why the man convicted of the murder will be put to death in a very unique way.

Kenneth Eugene Smith was convicted of the 1988 murder-for-hire of Elizabeth Sennett. Pastor Charles Sennett recruited Billy Gray Williams to kill his wife Elizabeth and Williams hired John Forrest Parker and Kenneth Eugene Smith to carry out the murder. A week after the murder, Charles Sennett confessed to his family and then shot himself in the head.

Williams, Parker, and Smith were arrested, charged and convicted. Williams was sentenced to life and died in prison in 2020. Parker and Smith were sentenced to death. Parker was executed by lethal injection in 2010. Smith was scheduled to be executed in November of 2022 but the execution team was unable to connect the intravenous lines before time ran out.

After much debate, the state agreed not to try lethal injection again on Smith but would instead use a method of execution: Nitrogen Hypoxia. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what it is and why it is being tried for the first time...ever.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe talks about travel 

00:05:55 Talk Investigation of murder 

00:06:41 Talk about experience as death investigator 

00:08:37 Discuss sharing PTSD 

00:12:18 Talk about nitrogen  

00:14:21 Discussion Death Penalty 

00:18:56 Talk about execution used to be public  

00:21:30 Discussion about new method 

00:23:13 Talk about the Crime  

00:25:51 Talk Murder-for-Hire plot 

00:27:31 Discussion public execution 

00:30:24 Talk about the debate to come 

00:35:17 Discussion Is there a “best way” to kill somebody 

00:38:22 Talk about assisted suicide 

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Mystery Deepens as 4 KC Fans Watch Game, 3 Die "Frozen" in Backyard While Friend Sleeps Warm Inside30 Jan 202400:40:20

What really happened when four lifelong friends gathered to watch their Chiefs play the Chargers?

After the game, one guy goes to sleep inside and his three friends go outside and die in the backyard. And for two days their bodies lay frozen while their friend continues to sleep inside, ignoring calls and texts from friends and family worried about their loved ones.

And WHY are the police called to do a "welfare check" when there are three dead men in the backyard?

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack cover the story inside and out to find out what happened when four friends gather to cheer for their favorite team, and three end up dead in the backyard.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe shares childhood memories 

00:05:55 Talk Saints Football 

00:06:41 Discussion watching football 

00:08:37 Discuss NFL fans 

00:12:18 Talk about friends  

00:14:21 Discussion weather, first night not cold 

00:18:56 Talk about working multiple deaths 

00:21:30 Discussion about “mystery person” 

00:23:13 Discuss medical issue, hypothermia 

00:25:51 Talk is it possible to sleep 48 hours? 

00:27:31 Discussion of how come they guys didn’t break-in? 

00:31:21 Talk about calling it a “welfare check” 

00:35:17 Discussion Jordan Willis is brilliant scientist 

00:40:35 Talk Jordan Willis talks to police without lawyer 

00:45:21 Discussion of Fentanyl 

48:30.84 No Trauma, no gunshots, 3 dead 

 

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Missing Mom Murder Trial: Blood Evidence Could Prove She's Not Missing25 Jan 202400:49:52

When Connecticut mother-of-5 Jennifer Dulos suddenly vanished, the world stopped to look. While the world was looking for the missing mom, her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, and his girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, drove around town dropping off bags of trash in public trash bins. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down the story of the missing mom and the people who betrayed her.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe shares childhood memories 

00:05:55 Talk about family  

00:06:41 Discussion of Troconis trial  

00:08:37 Discussion of Dulos marriage 

00:12:18 Discussion of what the Nanny notices 

00:14:21 Talk about paper towels used to clean 

00:18:56 Talk about police body cam footage 

00:21:30 Discussion of testimony 

00:23:13 Talk about several types of tests 

00:25:51 Talk about stains and what they mean 

00:27:31 Discussion of blood drops 

00:29:42 Description of different cast-off blood trails 

00:31:21 Joe talks about blood 

00:35:17 Discussion about determining death 

00:40:35 Talk about blood and DNA locations 

00:45:21 Discussion of amount of blood 

00:50:38 Joe talks about suicide 

 

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Alec Baldwin Indicted on Manslaughter Charge: What really happened on the set of "Rust"23 Jan 202400:45:52

Alec Baldwin has been indicted again for Involuntary Manslaughter. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will pull back the curtain on the "Rust" movie set and explain what really happened, who is lying, and will there ever be justice. Should somebody go to jail, or was it a horrible accident? Listen and decide for yourself.

 

 

Transcript Highlights  

00:01:29 Describing the shooting location 

00:04:45 Talk about the victims 

00:05:31 Discussion of responsibility on set 

00:08:37 Joe talks about being a producer 

00:11:08 Talk about armorer 

00:13:45 Discussion Alec Baldwin charged 

00:15:38 Joe breaks down angles of shot 

00:21:00 Talk about producer role on set 

00:22:44 Dave tells story about loaded gun in house 

00:24:59 Discussion of handling a gun 

00:27:21 Talk about Baldwin interview about shooting 

00:29:24 Joe talks forensic science ballistics 

00:31:48 Discussion of accountability 

00:34:07 Talk about shooting cases 

00:40:48 Joe talks about the 44 Magnum 

00:45:37 Description of shooting of Brandon Lee 

00:48:18 Discussion about handling firearms on set 

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Stabbed, Set on Fire as They Slept: The Bermudez Family Murders12 Nov 202400:45:10

Sara Bermudez, 38, and her three children, Madison, 8, James, 6, and Michael, 2, are viciously attacked in the middle of the night while they sleep.

The murderer Sexually assaults Sara and her 8-year-old daughter, with a knife and stabs the family to death before setting them on fire. Sara's father finds the carnage and calls for Help. Investigators catch a break in that the killer tried to use diesel to fuel the fire but it burned itself out before totally destroying all the evidence.

Joseph Scott Morgan is going to take you inside the master bedroom and explain how investigators find a suspect from a portion of body fluid left behind at the scene. And the suspect isn't just close to the family, he is family. 






 




Transcript Highlights
00:00.96 Introduction - chewing and identity
04:20.45 Somebody breaks into a home in the middle of the night Slaughters the mom, daughter, two boys
09:20.18 Family murdered and set on fire
14:12.60 Disturbing element to the case 
18:12.07 Setting up a line to prevent contamination
22:57.18 Evidence of sexual assault
28:07.64 Knife used in sexual attack
32:56.90 Blood stains found on walls, carpet, lamp, other items
37:12.63 Finding blood in the fire
42:00.92 Mother defended her children
44:58.66 Conclusion

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Sweet Grandmother Has Arm Torn Off During Carjacking, But Where is the Blood? The Horrifying Death of Linda Frickey18 Jan 202400:46:20

The last thing Linda Frickey heard as she lay beaten, bruised, with her arm ripped off her body, was a friendly voice saying, "we'll pray for you,"

The 73-year-old woman was the victim of a carjacking that was pre-planned by a group of 4 thugs in New Orleans, the oldest only 17 years old. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they go behind the headlines on the story of a loving grandmother that died in a gruesome way, with her arm torn off her body. But witnesses ask; Where's the blood?

 

 

Transcript Highlights  

00:01:29 Talk about Grandmothers 

00:04:45 Joe doesn’t want his hometown tarnished  

00:05:31 Discussion about Carjacking 

00:08:37 Talk about 18-year-old taking a life 

00:10:20 Joe talks about living in this area of NOLA 

00:11:08 Discussion about witnesses 

00:13:45 Talk about ringleader John Honore 

00:15:38 Talk about being dragged two blocks  

00:21:00 Talk about criminals attacked woman from behind 

00:22:44 Discussion of being stuck, drug down the block  

00:24:59 Discussion having arm ripped off your body 

00:27:21 Talk about how witness covered her body 

00:29:24 Discussion of damage done to police officer drug in similar way 

00:31:48 Talk about the last thing Mrs. Frickey heard was “we’re praying for you 

00:34:07 Discussion of what happened to the blood? 

00:40:48 Talk about determining cause of death 

00:45:37 Talk about how Mrs. Frickey was beaten in car, then drug down street 

00:48:18 Discussion about CCTV cameras 

00:49:44 Suspect has been sentenced to prison 

 

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Murder or Suicide? The Death of Jeffrey Epstein16 Jan 202400:48:23

The death of Jeffrey Epstein has been debated since the minute it was announced to the world. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will share what it was like to be on the air with the news and notice "red flags" as certain parts of the death story didn't seem to be correct.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the death of Jeffrey Epstein. Did Jeffrey Epstein commit suicide, or was he murdered? 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:17 Joe hears story about where the meanest men in America live 

00:04:47 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about covering Epstein death 

00:08:23 Discuss first attack/suicide attempt  

00:11:45 Talk about unusual circumstances 

00:14:37 Discuss conflicting statements about noose 

000:17:15 Talk about Epstein allowed unmonitored phone call  

00:18:23 Discuss no cellmate to attack or stop suicide 

00:20:33 Talk about two nooses in the cell 

00:22:42 Discussion of cell condition and contents 

00:25:49 Talk about July 23rd event 

00:29:25 Discuss observing body at time of death 

00:32:25 Talk about putting hospital gown on Epstein 

00:34:03 Mark Epstein told his brother may have been dead 2 hours or more 

00:37:40 Talk about Epstein body wheeled into hospital 

00:40:34 Discussion of hyoid bone 

00:42:05 Discuss facts of the body at time of death 

00:44:24 Discuss agreement overturned regarding suicide 

00:45:14 Talk about autopsy, who was present 

00:47:00 Discuss distribution of force 

00:48:16 Mentions that noose wasn't collected for evidence. 

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Testimony from Beyond the Grave: The Suspicious Death of Maria Muñoz11 Jan 202400:47:42

When a panicked husband calls 911 for help saying his wife has overdosed the first officer on the scene notices some pretty big red flags.

The forensics tell the story of what killed Maria Munoz, but Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will dig deeper to find out what really happened to a Texas mom with a penchant for writing in her journal, about everything. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:29 Talk about nurses, great investigators 

00:03:21 Discussion of body cam 

00:04:45 Talk about scene, shadows 

00:05:31 Talk about what police expect based on 911 call 

00:06:55 Discussion of relationship  

00:08:37 Talk about surgery, different duties 

00:10:20 Talk about steroid use 

00:11:08 Talk about husband being suspicious 

00:12:06 Discussion of red flags 

00:13:45 Talk about husband pockets pill bottle 

00:15:38 Talk about medicine bottle on scene 

00:21:00 Talk about medical pro letting police officer take over cpr 

00:22:44 Discussion of husband talking to police 

00:24:59 Discussion of Police body cam 

00:27:21 Talk about how to find needle hole in arm 

00:29:24 Discussion of suspect  

00:31:48 Talk about scenes involving drugs 

00:34:07 Discussion of home dynamics 

00:35:55 Discussion of medical careers 

00:40:48 Talk about tox screen  

00:43:52 Discussion of toxicology report 

00:45:37 Talk about how drugs were used 

00:48:18 Discussion about Maria diary entries 

00:49:44 Diary and Toxicology gave jury no choice 

 

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Couple expecting baby shot to death at Christmas: The Life and Death of Savanah Soto and Matthew Guerra09 Jan 202400:37:00

Savanah Soto, 18, and her boyfriend Matthew Guerra, 22, are reported missing the day before Savanah is to have labor induced for their baby. Their car is found, and Savanah is found dead in the front passenger seat with Matthew shot to death in the back seat.On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the truth from fiction in the saddest story from what should be the happiest of times. 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:54 Talk about having a child 

00:03:23 Talk about responsibility 

00:05:53 Discussion of age of victims 

00:07:49 Talk about family dynamic  

00:09:24 Discussion about safety 

00:12:53 Talk about location of bodies in the car 

00:14:33 Discussion of Matthew being drug into back seat 

00:16:12 Discussion of what long hair means to crime scene 

00:18:42 Talk about where victims were murdered 

00:19:46 Windows in the kia are dark 

00:22:01 What is being said between truck driver and kia? 

00:23:48 Discussion of people traveling with body in car 

00:25:52 Baby is autopsied too 

00:26:59Talk about Baby birth after death 

00:28:23 Talk about Matthew identified quickly 

00:32:36 Kia Optima located 

00:34:58 Phone Pings will help find more cameras 

00:35:55 Talk about bad cameras, great picture of suspects 

00:37:01 Discussion of DNA that will likely be found 

 

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The House Is Gone: The Idaho Student Murders04 Jan 202400:34:39

The Idaho house where Madison Mogen , Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin were murdered has been demolished.   Prosecution and Defense were both in agreement about the resident being demolished before the trial.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they discuss what might be missed and who might be helped by the biggest pieced of evidence being destroyed. 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:08 Talk about why the odd shaped home had to come down 

00:02:18 Discussion about destroying house before trial 

00:03:47 Compare being able to visit the home of Lizzie Borden 

 00:05:47 Discussion of taking down horrible crime scenes 

00:08:33 Comparing evidence like knife to house, would a picture of knife be sufficient 

00:09:06 Discussion of both sides in agreement in taking building down 

00:11:28 Talk about how to tell if someone could hear noise from top to bottom of house 

00:13:36 Discussion of first-person perspective 

00:15:48 Discussion of Parkland scene 

00:17:42 Talk about taking jury to crime scene 

00:19:26 Discussion of house layout – would killer have to be familiar 

00:20:39 Talk about moving around rooms in the dark 

00:21:53 Discussion about seeing size of rooms and 'ear' witness

00:24:15 Talk about effective documentation 

00:26:23 Discussion about where suspect entered home 

00:27:07 Discussion about room size 

00:29:51 Talk about dynamic distribution of blood, being able to see it in context 

00:31:32 Discussion of Jeffrey MacDonald case, jury saw murder scene in house 

00:32:4 Talk about without house, no way to know where sound would go 

00:33:51 Discussion comparing Gettysburg site to a house 

 

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Hot Sauce on Bread For Dinner, Ice Baths For Punishment: The Shocking life and death of Disabled Teen Timothy Ferguson02 Jan 202400:38:17

Timothy Ferguson's mother calls police. Her son is unresponsive. Timothy Ferguson is also 15-years-old weighing just 69 pounds when he died of malnutrition and hypothermia. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they detail -Timothy Ferguson's painful life at the hands of his evil mother and brother. The teen lives on a diet of water and bread soaked in hot sauce,  followed by ice baths.   

 

 

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00 Joseph Scott Morgan shares memories of Grandmother cooking chicken 

00:04:15 Discussion of Timothy Ferguson, 15, starved to death by his mother

00:05:37 Discussion of food being used as mechanism for torture

00:06:52 Talk about Shanda Vander Ark fled Oklahoma with children

00:08:56 Explanation of how using food as a ‘kindness’ 

00:11:05 Talk about dark choices made by Shanda Vander Ark regarding her son 

00:13:05 Discussion of Timothy’s older brother Paul being involved in the abuse

00:14:51 Joseph Scott Morgan describes “impact: injury – slapped, punched.

00:15:28 Talk about how common that one child will be chosen for abuse while other siblings abuse victim as well 

00:16:14 Discussion about abuse,  malnutrition impossible to hide

00:17:15 How to determine how long Timothy was abused

00:18:35 Description - malnutrition can “stunt growth”. 

00:20:40 Discussion of Shanda Vander Ark Defense, claims she had PTSD

00:21:51 Joseph Scott Morgan explains how Timothy Ferguson was digesting his own fat cells due to malnutrition 

00:22:58 Timothy Ferguson’s body already compromised 

00:26:41 Timothy Ferguson was given bread and water, and hot sauce for torture 

00:27:56 Talk about hot sauce “Carolina Reaper” being placed on bread for Ferguson to eat 

00:29:00 Discussion of Timothy Ferguson being kept in tiny room under stairs, developing bed sores 

00:30:56 Description of Timothy Ferguson breathing out of his mouth like fish out of water 

00:32:09 Discussion of Ice Bath’s used to punish Timothy Ferguson 

00:33:28 Timothy Ferguson never recovered from last Ice Bath, cause of death – hypothermia and malnutrition 

00:36:02 Discussion of food – mother chained refrigerator and cabinets in kitchen 

00:38:00 Verdict - Shanda Vander Ark, guilty of murder, son Paul guilty of Child Abuse 

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The New Epidemic: Fentanyl28 Dec 202300:36:22

The opioid crisis has brought death and devastation to families all over the world and fentanyl has only made things worse. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take a close look at three very different cases involving fentanyl that all have the same end result, death. A wife allegedly uses fentanyl as a weapon to kill her husband, a 20-year-old faces second-degree murder for giving a teen girl a pill with fentanyl, and a toddler is dead when he comes into contact with fentanyl in his daycare. 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Discussion: To be free from pain. 

00:01:44 Talk about from Tylenol to Fentanyl  

00:02:53 Discussion of population desiring to be free from pain, self-medicating  

00:04:43 Talk about the opioid crisis 

00:07:28 Discussion about the strength of fentanyl  

00:10:16 Joe points out how fentanyl can be pressed into other drugs 

00:11:51 Description of what an overdose from opioid looks like 

00:13:01 Discussing three fentanyl related cases today; Kouri Richins, NYC daycare, and 15-year-old dead from pill 

00:14:38 Talk about murder charge in death of 15-year-old girl

00:16:46 Discussion of coroner ruling drug overdose as a “homicide” 

00:18:35 Talk about California case, 15-year-old dies from fentanyl 

00:22:35 Discussion of pills made in a garage rather than a laboratory 

00:23:43 Talk about a 22-month-old child in a daycare exposed to fentanyl 

00:26:49 Discussion of “binders” used in making the pills

00:28:48 Description of toddlers in daycare with fentanyl kept directly underneath “nap mats” 

00:30:58 Fentanyl used as weapon, tasteless, odorless 

00:32:36 Talk about Kouri Richins alleged attempts to poison husband 

00:34:33 How to determine if drug was taken as recreation or used as weapon 

00:36:01 Discussion of opioid deaths 

00:38:36 Talk about tox screen 

00:40:28 Discussion of Fentanyl and therapeutic levels  

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The unimaginable case of Francisca Monteiro-Balla26 Dec 202300:32:59

When Camille Balla calls a coworker and says "I think I killed my mother", the coworker calls 911 on her way to Balla's mother's house. Police find a scene straight out of a horror movie as the follow a blood splatter trail leading to the body of Francisca Monteiro-Balla. Checking the body for vitals an officer notices something on a box a few feet away. It isn't something anyone expects to see, two eyeballs, sitting on a box, appearing to watch the officers as they try to save the life of Francisca Monteiro-Balla.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close-up look at a case that is just as scary and strange at the beginning as it is in the end. 

 

Transcript Highlights

00:01:26 Joseph Scott Morgan compares Lewis Powell screaming “I am Mad” to  
Camille Balla screaming “I am a murderer” 

00:02:50 Talk about Police arrive to scene and find woman’s eyes removed 

00:04:05 Dave Mack breaks down story of Camille Balla calls co-worker and tells her “I think I killed my mother” 

00:06:12 Talk about County Jail versus prison 

00:08:05 Discussion about Camille Balla screaming “I’m a murderer” 

00:10:08 Discussion of bloody crime scene, eyeballs removed from victim, placed on cardboard box 

00:11:25 Describing difference between blood “spatter” and blood “splatter” 

00:13:46 Discussion about victim’s injuries 

00:16:01 Talk about the fight between mother and daughter, and eyeballs removed from victim 

00:17:56 Joe describes removal of eyeball 

00:20:37 Discussion of suspect removing eyes from the front 

00:22:43 Talk about Camille Balla claims to have smoked marijuana laced with Flocka prior to attack on her mother 

00:26:12 Discussion of charges being reduced from First-Degree Murder to Manslaughter 

00:28:34 Talk about broken glass around scene, blood from perpetrator and victim co-mingled making thing forensically more complicated 

00:29:06 Camille Balla pleaded guilty to manslaughter, sentenced to 15-years in prison followed by 15-years on probation.  

 

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The Faceless Frozen Body in the Ditch: The Ilene Gowan Story21 Dec 202300:41:50

An adult female body is found outside of Council Bluffs city limits. The body was found with bruises all over her body, a large laceration on her head, her body was  found frozen to the ground. Also, her face is missing. The body is of a woman who has been missing for 11 days, 60-year-old Ilene Gowan. Investigators will use everything at their disposal to determine how the grandmother ended up dead in a ditch without her face, and who is responsible for her death.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they breakdown a case that includes forensics of a frozen body as well as the latest video surveillance tools that creates a timeline that builds a map leading right to the killer.

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:06 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about scene of crime 

00:02:42 Victim 60-year-old woman, without a face 

00:04:00 Talk about victim and suspect relationship 

00:06:22 Brammer does not report girlfriend missing 

00:07:44 Talk about remains being discarded like trash 

00:09:48 Discussion about alcohol and relationships  

00:11:21 Victim is missing for 11 days  

00:12:49 Talk about remains still frozen at autopsy 

00:16:46 Discussion of weather on decomposition  

00:18:32 Talk about arriving to scene of crime 

00:22:54 Discussion about Pathologist in the field  

00:24:01 Victim face is missing 

00:27:19 Timeline: victim last seen on 13, reported missing on 15th 

00:30:37 Discussion of Post-Mortem and Anti-Mortem 

00:31:36 Video evidence of Brammer in truck with victim 

00:33:34 Discussion of victim cause of death 

00:34:39 Talk about wounds 

00:37:10 Discussion about Dr. Michael Baden brought in for second opinion 

00:38:50 Brammer deposits $1,500 in his bank account day Ilene is reported missing 

00:39:46 Discussion about face missing due to animal life 

00:41:46 Brammer has truck crushed and shredded 

00:42:08 Brammer was found guilty of second-degree murder, abuse of a corpse, and second-degree theft. 

 

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Gone Without A Trace - Where are Joey and Jaclyn?19 Dec 202300:30:32

In Battle Creek, Michigan, Chad Allen Reed is the owner of a property. He lives on the bottom floor and rents out the top floor. He complains to everyone about the couple renting his upstairs,  Joe Soule and Jaclyn Lepird are loud at night and Reed doesn't like it. When Joe and Jaclyn vanish, everyone is looking for them, except for Chad Allen Reed. He is too busy trying to hide what he has done. His property burns 5 times in 7 days but Chad Allen Reed is being haunted by the smell. Two bodies, wrapped in plastic, hidden in the back of a pickup truck. When nobody solves the mystery of what happened to Joe Soule and Jaclyn Lepird, Chad Allen Reed calls the tip line himself, and tells them what happened!

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack  break down the story of the Murdering Landlord and find out what evidence is left behind when two people are murdered on grass in a yard. 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

 

00:00:07 Joseph Scott Morgan shares a renting nightmare  

00:04:23 discussion of landlord complaining about tenant 

00:05:20 Joe talks about trauma and evidence left behind at the scene 

00:07:58 Landlord confronted tenants over noise  

00:10:37 Discussion of the matter of cutting and bludgeoning someone 

00:12:25 Talk about postmortem interval  

00:13:23 Chad Allen Read shoots Joe Soule, shoots Jaclyn Lepird in the back 

00:15:38 Discussion about Read beating Lepird with a pipe 

00:16:37 Joe explains “Bullet Wipe” 

00:18:32 Discussion about evidence left in yard 

00:19:42 Talk about 2 people missing 

00:21:51 Evidence left behind by 2 victims 

00:23:31 Explanation of how bodies are examined in morgue 

00:25:44 Discussion about perpetrators not putting distance between themselves and their victims 

00:27:49 Bodies wrapped in plastic create more evidence 

00:29:18 Talk about 5 fires in 7 days  

00:30:13 Chad Allen Read calls the tipline himself 

 

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The Burn Pile Murder: The Death of Gary Farris07 Nov 202400:43:53

How does a 130 pound, 58-year-old woman, put her 6'3", 300 pound husband on a burn pile?

When law enforcement was called to a farm outside of Atlanta, they were told a body was found burned up in a burn pile. Taking a quick look around, the body is burned beyond recognition, but it is probably 58-year-old Gary Farris. He and his wife Melody live on the 10-acre farm.  Gary Farris is a big man, 6 foot 3 inches tall, 300 pounds, it looks like he might have had a heart attack and fallen into the burn pile, dead. His body is burned to the bone and he is identified by dental records. But before this death can be written up as a natural death, a bullet is found lodged in one of his ribs! Joseph Scott Morgan will unpack what it's like to investigate a death that starts in a burn pile and Dave Mack will share how investigators put together a case that ends up with Gary Farris wife, Melody, convicted for his murder.

 

 

Transcript Highlights
00:00.47 Introduction - moving heavy weight

04:31.17 How to move 300 pounds of dead weight

09:45.12 What happens to a body when it is burned

14:06.78 Melody Farris burns body of husband

19:01.72 Can't get a height on a body that's been burned

25:52.49 Collecting body from burned area

30:37.21 How big is a bullet?

34:34.87 What was used to start fire?

39:29.36 Smell of Citronella at burn pit

42:02.85  Conclusion 

 

 

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Married Couple Missing 3 Weeks, The Torture death of the Josephs14 Dec 202300:40:07

Joseph Scott Morgan takes you on a trip to Louisiana, and a young couple, tied up, with kettlebells tied to their feet, being driven up a high bridge, and pushed out at the apex, not to die from falling 10 stories, but to drown after the fall.

Join Joe Scott Morgan and Dave Mack for a show that stretches from Louisiana to Atlanta, a recording studio, a Walmart,  a side hustle in prison, and great police work to bring to justice the evil that wants to be a star.

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:46 Talk about Gravity = the dominant force in our life. 

00:02:09 Talk about Gravity, leading up a bridge 

00:03:13Discussion about murder by drowning 

00:03:54 Talk about being In Louisiana. 

00:05:21 the death of Lakeitha and Kenneth Joseph. 

00:06:16 Couple missing three weeks 

00:07:14 Talk about searching for missing couple 

00:08:55 Discussion of levels of grief 

00:11:52 Joe shares knowledge of the geography of the area 

00:14:22 Talk about “prune” fingers as a child in pool 

00:15:02 The lake is brackish, salt and fresh 

00:17:14 Is it possible to determine how long a body has been in water? 

000:20:58 Kenneth borrows a van, becomes big clue 

00:24:37 Police work: Kettle Bells branded by golds gym, only at Walmart 

00:25:46 How long does it take for a body to come to surface 

00:28:42 Discussion about rope 

00:30:12 Talk about Lakeitha leg being broken 

00:31:31 Discussion of kettle bells 

00:35:19 Talk about bodies in water 

00:36:40 Borrowed van turns up in Atlanta 

00:37:44 Discussion about Rapper managed by ex-convict 

00:39:44 Prison Guard in relationship with prisoner 

00:41:56 Murdered for being a witness 

00:43:06 Talk about worst way to die 

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Girl missing 173 days, found less than 100 feet from home12 Dec 202300:35:57

A family moves to the country to get away from the crime of the big city only to find that evil exists in small towns and big cities alike. A 17-year-old girl develops a close bond to a harmless older neighbor. But the harmless old man is really a wolf in sheeps clothing and when the 17-year-old goes missing the neighbor helps look as hard as anyone. As long as nobody comes to his house to look too close. For 173 days the girl is missing, her heartbroken parents don't realize she is only 100 feet away from their front door. Buried in a homemade box, just for her. 

Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the case of the teen girl hidden away in a homemade coffin and how difficult it will be to get the evidence to determine what really caused her death. Dave Mack joins in on the search for facts, and Valerie Tindall.

 

Transcript 

00:01:02 Discussion of 173 days without knowing location of your child 

00:02:26 Valerie Tindall, 17, and missing 

00:03:29 Mother said Patrick Scott acted like jealous boyfriend 

00:04:21 Discussion of age difference 

00:06:55 Valerie Tindall is missing 

00:10:00 Talk about Forensic Anthropology 

00:11:28 Disturbed areas of soil in backyard  

00:12:30 17-year-old girl bonds with 59-year-old man, odd 

00:13:22 What does FBI mean to a case 

00:14:32 The neighbor Valerie has “bond” with charged with lying to police 

00:16:03 Discussion of providing false hope to lure out suspect 

00:17:24 Investigators wonder if someone is helping her stay gone 

00:18:29 Victim has been missing since June 

00:22:24 Bright Orange fingernail polish Valerie Tindall was wearing 

00:23:29 Taking down a structure, burning, why? 

00:27:17 Talk about the VHS tapes found in box 

00:29:11 Discussion of murder weapon, a belt 

00:30:56 Suspect claims he is the victim?  

00:32:29 Discussion about condition of the body  

00:33:39 Why did the suspect dig holes in his property? 

00:35:17 Talk about the story from the suspect does not make sense 

00:36:35 Some evidence might have been lost  

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Peaceful Commune to Violent Murder: The Ezra Ralston Story07 Dec 202300:38:20

Ezra Ralston, 29, moves in with his grandparents on their beautiful property on the water in the Pacific Northwest, and repays their love and kindness by coming up with a plan to create a commune on his grandparents property. The only thing he needs to do is kill his grandparents and steal their property to make his dreams come true.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take an in-depth look at death, fire, and the lies of Ezra Ralston on this episode of Body Bags.

 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:19 Joe Talks about finding save place for your family 

00:01:18 Grandparents welcome 29-year-old grandson 

00:02:15 Discussion about early 70s 

00:03:47 Talk about the murder of Grandparents 

00:04:46 Discussion of fire and explosion 

00:06:16 Talk about arson, murder, investigation 

00:09:02 Discussion about origin of fire in the house 

00:11:05 Joe shares insight into recurring nightmare  

00:13:09 Talk about finding the bodies of Joanna Gormley and Ted Ralston. 

00:17:40 Discussion about gasoline used in fire 

00:19:14 Joe explains assessing the bodies 

00:23:02 Explaining what happens working a fire scene 

00:24:54 Discussion of when to examine bodies 

00:26:36 Looking around a fire scene is very confusing 

00:27:47 Talk about the victims' wounds 

00:32:03 Talk about plan to kill victims in their sleep 

00:35:45 Ezra Ralston being encouraged by girlfriend 

00:37:04 Discussion of using bleach to get rid of evidence 

00:39:15 Fire creates more evidence 

 

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