Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan – Détails, épisodes et analyse

We revisit the Murdaugh trial in which South Carolina lawyer, Alex Murdaugh, is currently facing trial for the murder of his wife Maggie, and his son Paul. As the trial continues, we are learning more information about the nature of the crimes and how exactly they played out.In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host  Dave Mack discuss the specifics of both Paul and Maggie’s injuries, why the prosecution uses diagrams vs. photographs when showing evidence in court, whether Paul had any defensive wounds, and much more. 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro1:18 - Background and overview of the case

2:35 - Using diagrams in court vs. photographs

6:05 - Paul Murdaugh’s injuries

11:15 - The second shot to Paul Murdaugh’s head

14:50 - Paul’s face left intact

19:25 - Were there any type of defensive wounds on Paul?

20:30 - Maggie Murdaugh’s injuries

23:30 - Stippling around Maggie’s wounds

26:00 - Shot to the abdomen

29:00 - Was this overkill?

31:00 - Wrap up and outro

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November 22, 1963: John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, was shot and killed during a presidential motorcade in Dallas, Texas.The President is taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital.

By law, Dallas County Coroner Dr. Earl Rose had jurisdiction over the case and should have performed the autopsy. However, against Dr. Earl Rose's protestations, the body of President Kennedy was wrapped in a sheet, placed in a casket with a broken handle, and flown over 1,300 miles away to Washington DC, where 2 naval doctors, who had never conducted a forensic autopsy performed the autopsy on John F. Kennedy. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close look at the autopsy that was so bad, 60years later questions are still being asked. 

Time Code Highlights
00:00:10 Introduction 
00:01:21 The ripple effect of the assassination of JFk
00:04:31 The moments following the shooting of JFK in Dealey Plaza
00:06:02 Talk about how autopsy "Standard Procedures" were not followed 
00:06:51 Texas state law and jurisdiction over investigation and autopsy
00:07:58 Board Certified Forensic Pathologist Doctor Earl Rose was chief medical examiner for Dallas, Texas at the time and was at Parkland Memorial Hospital
00:09:22 JFK body taken from Dallas to Washington DC for autopsy
00:10:59 Secret Service preparing for President trips.
00:11:36 JFK physical condition after being shot.
00:12:52 Injuries to JFK, at least 2 gunshot wounds. 
00:13:31 Tracheotomy that was performed to establish an airway
00:15:04  Dr. Earl Rose and how his experience was dismissed
00:16:23 Dr. Earl Rose KNEW he was looking at a Murder Investigation.
00:17:47 Discussion Dallas County had jurisdiction over the body.
00:19:03 Talk about autopsy of JFK should have taken place in Dallas
00:20:08 Previous Presidential assassination, Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley and their autopsies.
00:22:10 Dr. Earl Rose did the autopsy for Oswald, Officer Tippit, and Jack Ruby.
00:23:36  JFK body being taken to Washington DC 
00:25:16 Comparing Bethesda Naval Hospital to Walter Reed Hospital 
00:26:04 doctors chosen to perform JFK autopsy
00:28:42 why doctors turned bullet wound into tracheostomy
00:29:55  Presidents body wrapped in sheets. Head wrapped in gauze
00:31:09  JFK clothing, tie changed the trajectory of round.
00:32:58  Other clothing worn during the assassination
00:33:44  "magic bullet" going through JFK and Governor Connally, 
00:35:08 Secret Service agents washed interior of Presidential limo. 
00:36:03 Talk about crime scenes - bone fragments found and turned in later
00:37:02 Description of President's head, skull came apart in doctors hands.
00:38:04 Discussion of Assessment
00:40:02 Talk about x-rays that were done on body
00:41:58  Description of the Bethesda autopsy suite 
00:43:51 Ballistics expert Dr. Pierre Fink, forensic pathologist, came to Bethesda 
00:44:53  JFK brain was removed before Dr. Fink arrived
00:46:05 Description of "Brain Loafing".
00:47:22 The autopsy of JFK was not a complete autopsy
00:49:21 Discussion of "family wishes" as it applies to the murder of the president.
00:50:48 Compare autopsy of John F. Kennedy and Robert F Kennedy
00:52:36 Discussion about other pathologists available to do autopsy on JFK
00:55:09 No way to know if other injuries suffered by JFK could have been lethal
00:56:04 Commentary - no excuse for what happened with autopsy of JFK

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Madeline Jane Kingsbury, 26, and Adam Fravel, 29, are no longer a couple but they are still living together while Kingsbury looks for a place to live.  Kingsbury and Fravel take their two children, ages 5 and 2, to daycare on March 31, around 8am and return home at 8:15am. Madeline Kingsbury is never seen leaving the house, but she mysteriously vanishes. Just over two months later, on June 7, 2023, the remains of Madeline Kingsbury are found near property owned by the parents of Adam Fravel. Joseph Scott Morgan takes a look at the case and determines what caused the death of a 26-year-old mother of two whose remains have been left to decompose for over two months. 

Transcript Highlights

00:10.14 Introduction 

05:00.51 Madeline Kingsbury - vanishes after dropping children off at daycare 

10:02.20 Madeline and Adam Fravel are breaking-up but still living together

15:02.91 Investigators build a timeline starting with March 31, 2023

20:02.78 Population density of Winona, farming communities, big search area

25:06.37 Early into investigation police said her disappearance is involuntary

30:30.69 Body found obscured in a culvert

35:20.79 Madeline's body wrapped in fitted sheet matching other sheeting used in her home

40:01.77 Cause of death - homicidal violence
 
43:03.24 Conclusion

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Sade Robinson is having fun on her first date with a new guy. They pose together and post the picture to social media. Sade had no idea she was taking a picture with the devil and she only had hours to live.

In this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the killer sealed his fate by trying to destroy evidence with fire.

Transcribe Highlights 

00:22.97 Introduction Milwaukee 

05:01.65. Talk about Jeffrey Dahmer 

07:29.72 Discussion of dismemberment 

09:53.60 Talk about getting rid of smell with tires 

14:06.81 Discussion of finding leg 

 20:10.93 Talk about remains being compromised  

25:18.19. Breaking down the timeline  

30:30.67. Discussion of other women missing 

34:38.48 Talk about fire inside a car 

36:38.64 Discussion of witness who saw person use lighter to start car fire 

39:33.42 Conclusion – how remains will tell what really happened to Sade 

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Boston Cop John O'Keefe and his girlfriend Karen Read go on a pub crawl before ending their the night at the home of a Boston cop friend of O'Keefe's at 12:45 am. 6 hours later, the body of John O'Keefe is found in the front yard of the house, covered in snow in blizzard conditions. He is wearing two shirts, jeans, socks and one shoe. Near his body on the snow are shards of glass and splotches of blood. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will take an up close look at the injuries and find out what really happened to John O'Keefe. Dave Mack will breakdown the story that has divided Boston and together they will try to answer the question: Who Killed John O'Keefe?

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Transcribed Highlights 

00:01.10   Introduction, talk about weather conditions and murder 

02:05.22 Discussion of Karen Read case 

05:05.56 Talk about Media coverage 

09:09.25 Discussion of forensics role in investigation 

14:06.82 Talk about background of relationship 

16:16.35 Breaking down timeline of events 

19:50.94 Discussion of physical injuries   

21:07.56 Talk about Blood Alcohol 

25:20.82 Talk about leaving bar, going to house party 

30:09.48 Talk about Text Messages, getting directions 

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Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley vanish on their way to pick up Veronica’s children to go to a birthday party. They were supposed to meet up with Veronica Butler’s ex-mother-in-law at a closed gas station in rural Texas County, Oklahoma. But they never make it. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how evidence from blood to tire treads will help solve the mystery of the Missing Moms.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of shared custody 

00:03:10 Discussion or relationships and death 

00:06:50 Talk about terrain 

00:11:03 Discussion of moms reported missing 

00:14:08 Talk about how vehicle ended up where it is found 

00:18:46 Discussion of evidence found at scene 

00:23:21Talk about tire tread identification 

00:27:47 Discussion of term “puddle of blood” 

00:31:16 Discussion of meeting place 

00:34:16 Talk about SWAT Teams showing up in Rural County 

00:38:44 Talk about death penalty states 

00:40:56 Discussion identifying body 

00:42:29 Conclusion 

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For years she was labeled “Bones 20” the unidentified victim of the Green River Killer. But now, thanks to police work and Othram Labs, the victim has been named as Tammy Liles. She was from Everett, Washington, and vanished in the summer of 1983. She was only 16 years old when she became a victim of serial killer Gary Ridgeway. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take you behind the headlines and into the lab that helped give a name to a young lady who spent decades being called “bones 20”.  

Transcript Highlights  

00:0:16 Introduction – The Green River Killer last victim identified 

00:02:28 Talk about age reference  

00:06:32 Discussion of high-profile murders 

00:10:48 Talk about the Green River Killer 16-year-old victim 

00:15:56 Discussion of identifying remains 

00:20:54 Discussion of the Green River Killer evidence 

00:25:58 Talk about starting with incomplete skeleton 

00:29:41 Discussion of Genetic Genealogy 

00:34:51 Talking about Othram labs 

00:37:39 Conclusion; might be the most noble of pursuits 

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Destiny Duckett’s cousin couldn’t reach her by phone, so she stopped by her apartment to check on her. The cousin knocks on the door, but Destiny doesn’t answer. The cousin can hear the baby crying and she is worried. She calls police to do a welfare check and when they enter Destiny Duckett’s apartment, her 8-week old son is on the bed, crying, and his 22-year-old mother is on the floor, dead. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will look into the mysterious death of 22-year-old new mother, Destiny Duckett and Joseph Scott Morgan  will explain how fingernails play a keep part in solving the murder. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of case 

00:02:20 Discussion of fingernails  

00:05:37 Talk about cousin called police, heard baby crying 

00:10:56 Discussion of protective order leading to arrest of suspect  

00:15:26 Talk about leaving crying baby on the bed, alone, mother dead on floor 

00:19:43 Discussion of body being the biggest evidence 

00:24:16 Discussion of proving knees were on chest of victim 

00:28:26 Talk about fingernail marks on the neck 

00:33:55 Discussion of why suspect was already in jail 

00:36:33 Conclusion – Convicted, sentencing to come 

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A bag with a burned, dismembered torso is found by a boy out for a horseback ride about a mile from town. The police chief says he was mowing his lawn when he got the call about the headless, armless, legless, burned torso, and from that moment on it was "chaos". On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of the dismembered and burned torso and how, after 44-years, he was finally identified with DNA and Othram labs.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of episode 

00:02:13 Talk about identifying Joseph Caliva 

00:06:15 Discussion of years beginning in 1979 

00:10:40 Talk about dismemberment 

00:15:48 Discussion of what was found 

00:17:39 Talk about burned remains 

00:22:25 Discussion about trying to ID person 

00:27:25 Talk about finding portions of the torso 

00:31:54 Talk about creating a person out of evidence 

00:36:34 Discussion after 44 years, victim identified 

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AUTOPSY REPORT WILL NOT BE RELEASED. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happened to Madeline Soto and Dave Mack will dig into the back story of the entire family. You will find out by the time she reached 13-years-old, Madeline Soto had already been sexually abused for years. When she was a “missing 13-year-old" from Florida, the news covered every tidbit of information about the search for the teen. One piece of evidence that made it to the press was how Madeline Soto told a friend when she turned 13, she was going to live in the woods. That is why police searched the woods for Madeline.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:28 Introduction, talk about parents protecting children 

00:04:28 Talk about Madeline Soto saying she wanted to live in the woods 

00:05:31 Discussion of ages 12 and 13 

00:09:04 Discussion of Madeline not taking cell phone 

00:12:29 Talk about family being told about evidence 

00:16:42 Discussion of time children go to school 

00:20:07 Discussion of Madeline Soto seen in vehicle 

00:21:49 Talk about being haunted by evidence 

00:26:26 Discussion of Madeline Soto 

00:30:26 Talk about video surveillance of suspect 

00:33:22 Discussion of 60 charges against suspect  

00:37:32 Discussion of evidence of previous abuse 

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