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What remains when the identity, beliefs, thoughts, and patterns you have mistaken for yourself begin to fall away?
In this expansive episode of Awakening Conversations, Natalie is joined by Taoist Master San Qing for a profound exploration of the true self, Taoist Internal Alchemy, effortless action, embodiment, healing, and the limitless nature of consciousness.
San Qing shares how several near-death experiences during childhood transformed his understanding of reality and how, at the age of 18, he first began channeling Lao Tzu. He explains how Taoism guides us beyond the thinking mind and back into an embodied remembrance of wholeness, love, and unity.
Together, Natalie and San Qing explore what happens after the identity dissolves, why awakening can sometimes lead to emptiness or confusion, and how we can embrace our humanity without losing our connection to the absolute.
They also discuss psychic abilities, energetic transmission, extraordinary healing experiences, the role of the body in spiritual awakening, and why powers such as channeling, clairvoyance, and telekinesis are ultimately only side effects of meeting who we truly are.
In this conversation:
• What Taoism reveals about the true self
• San Qing’s childhood near-death experiences
• His first transmission from Lao Tzu
• Why thoughts and emotions are not our identity
• The meaning of Wu Wei, or effortless action
• What happens after the personality begins to dissolve
• Why the body is a portal rather than an obstacle
• Spiritual awakening, embodiment, and the fear of death
• Psychic abilities as side effects of self-realization
• Acceptance, surrender, and releasing resistance
• Extraordinary stories of healing and energetic transmission
• How to remain human while remembering the absolute
San Qing reminds us that awakening is not about escaping the human experience. It is about meeting life so completely that separation begins to disappear.