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| E27 - Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure: Big Deals and AI Revolution | 19 Aug 2025 | 00:36:59 | |
In this episode of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz introduces a new recurring segment called 'Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure' with Richard Tromans from Artificial Lawyer. They discuss the rapid evolution in the legal tech sphere, particularly focusing on big deals and announcements from legal AI companies like Harvey and Legora. The duo debates the impact of generative AI productivity platforms on the legal market, the notion of a 'land grab' as firms race to adopt AI, and the potential for AI to become universally adopted in legal workflows. They also touch on the pricing dynamics of legal tech and the challenges faced by legacy companies in incorporating AI.
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| E26 - Exploring Legal Tech Investments in the Post-ChatGPT World with Chris Fisher and Jonathan Levy | 15 Aug 2025 | 00:39:23 | |
In episode 26 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz brings us a live conversation from the Legal Innovators California Conference in San Francisco. The discussion features Chris Fisher of Myriad Ventures and Jonathan Levy of Y Combinator, two prominent investors in the legal tech space. They delve into the shifts in legal tech investments from the pre-ChatGPT era to the post-ChatGPT world, the impact of AI on legal services, and the emerging talent in the field. The investors also share insights on their investment strategies, the importance of domain expertise, and their vision for the future of legal tech.
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| E17 - How AI Has Tech Companies Pivoting with Eleanor Lightbody, CEO of Luminance | 27 Feb 2025 | 00:26:20 | |
In this episode, Zach interviews Eleanor Lightbody, the CEO of Luminance, about her journey from working at Darktrace to leading Luminance, a legal tech company. Eleanor shares insights from her four years as CEO, highlighting the transformative impact of AI in the legal tech space. They discuss Luminance's growth strategy, the development of their contract lifecycle management tool, and the shift from M&A-specific uses to a broader, more inclusive approach. Eleanor also delves into how generative AI is changing user expectations and behaviors, and emphasizes the importance of balancing current customer needs with future innovations through a specialized 'blue sky thinking' team. Follow Luminance's developments on LinkedIn, their website, and at key industry conferences like Legal Week.
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| E16 - How Biglaw Can and Should Partner with Early Stage Startups, with Ilona Logvinova and Evan Shenkman | 13 Feb 2025 | 00:42:20 | |
In this engaging conversation, Ilona and Evan discuss their roles and experiences in leading innovation within their respective law firms, Cleary Gottlieb and Fisher Phillips. Ilona, the Director of Practice Innovation at Cleary, shares her journey from McKinsey to leading a transformation journey at Cleary. Evan, the Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Fisher Phillips, talks about his shift from labor and employment law into knowledge management and legal technology. The discussion covers their strategies for partnering with early-stage companies, the impact of generative AI on the legal industry, the importance of being thought leaders, and the challenges and opportunities of incorporating AI into legal practices. They also delve into the long-term benefits of working with startups, AI governance, and the future trajectory of AI in redefining the value proposition of the legal profession.
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| E15 - Could “AI For Lawyers” Catch on Faster with In-House Attorneys? Katya Fisher, CEO and Founder of Aracor | 22 Jan 2025 | 00:49:09 | |
Katya Fisher introduces her journey from a practicing attorney to a tech entrepreneur. She shares her experience of building a successful law practice during the Great Recession and how she acquired a unique set of legal skills. Katya talks about the inefficiencies in the legal world that led her to build Aracor.ai, a legal tech product tailored for in-house counsel of investment firms such as venture capital funds, private equity groups, and family offices. Learn More: Aracor - https://www.aracor.ai/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Katya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/katyafisher/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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| E14 - Are the Lines Blurring Between DMS and AI? NetDocuments CPO Dan Hauck | 02 Dec 2024 | 00:29:27 | |
In this episode recorded at the NetDocuments Inspire EMEA conference in London, Dan Hauck outlines the strides made in integrating AI into legal document management. The discussion begins with a reflection on a previous webinar and the decision to avoid common, simplistic AI solutions like chatbots, instead focusing on using LLMs for intelligent document tagging. The development and features of NetDocuments' AI suite, ndMax, are detailed, emphasizing automated processes like semantic search, document metadata enrichment, and contract summarization. The conversation also touches on the importance of embedding AI seamlessly into existing workflows to enhance the work experience for attorneys, improve client service, and retain top talent. Additionally, they explore future enhancements, the integration of custom legal applications, and the overarching strategy of simplifying AI use within the platform.
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| E13 - Are Law Firms Succeeding with GenAI? Joe Cohen, Director of Innovation at CRS | 28 Nov 2024 | 00:18:56 | |
In this episode, Joe Cohen, Director of Advanced Client Solutions at Charles Russell Speechlys, discusses his recent career change and the establishment of a new department at the firm focusing on legal tech, generative AI, legal project management, and process improvement. Joe details the triggers for creating the innovation department and the rapid adoption of generative AI platforms within the firm. He shares insights from the recent Legal Innovators conference panel, the impact of AI on value-based pricing, and its transformative potential on both the practice of law and business models. Joe also explores the challenges and future possibilities of AI in the legal sector, including data limitations and evolving regulatory landscapes.
Learn More: https://www.legalinnovators.co.uk/ Joe - https://www.charlesrussellspeechlys.com/en/people/j/joe-cohen/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Joe - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joecohen13/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz | |||
| E12 - AI and the Future of Legal Ops with LegalOps.com Founders Jeff Franke and Connie Brenton | 27 Aug 2024 | 00:33:49 | |
In episode 12 of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted, Zach interviews Jeff Franke and Connie Brenton, co-founders of LegalOps.com, ahead of their upcoming conference, "Running Legal Like a Business," in Las Vegas from September 3-6. The discussion highlights the evolution of legal operations, emphasizing the need for community and industry standards, which they aim to foster through their platform.
Learn more about the conference "Running Legal Like a Business" - https://event-2024.legalops.com/
Learn More:
Legal Ops - legalops.com, lawvision.com
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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| E11 - Is Harvey.ai All Hype? Giupedi CEO Edward Bukstel | 22 Aug 2024 | 00:52:51 | |
In this episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted, dive into the world of digital health and legal technology with a seasoned entrepreneur who has been at the forefront of healthcare technology since the late 1980s. The discussion covers the evolution of electronic health records, the intersection of digital health and legal tech, and the challenges faced by lawyers in adopting new technologies. Edward Bukstel shares insights on his current venture, which aims to streamline the process for personal injury cases and improve communication between clients and lawyers. The conversation also touches on the competitive landscape of legal tech, particularly the emergence of companies like Harvey.ai and the implications of AI in the legal field. Learn More: Edward - https://medium.com/@Connected_Dots, https://www.giupedi.com/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Edward - https://www.linkedin.com/in/edward-bukstel-33987a2/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz | |||
| E10 - GPT Wrappers with James Lee, CEO & Cofounder of LegalMation | 09 Aug 2024 | 00:31:02 | |
This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted delves into the importance of using specialized tools for professionals, drawing an analogy between Snap-on tools at a motorcycle shop and purpose-built applications in the legal industry. It discusses why general-purpose tools like GPT and Claude may not meet the specific needs of professionals, emphasizing the need for tailored solutions that provide confidence and efficiency. The conversation highlights the philosophy of building platforms that cater to the precise requirements of professional users, particularly in legal settings.
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| E9 - How is AI Impacting Law Firm Subsidiaries? Bryon Bratcher, MD of Gravity Stack | 10 Jul 2024 | 00:25:04 | |
In this episode, I sit down with Gravity Stack’s Managing Director Bryon Bratcher for a live conversation on stage in San Francisco at Legal Innovators California (hosted by Artificial Lawyer Richard Tromans) to learn about how Gravity Stack, the subsidiary of Reed Smith LLP, is transforming its service offerings in light of the advances in AI and large language models. Learn More: www.legalinnovatorscalifornia.com www.artifciallawyer.com Bryon - www.Gravitystack.com Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Bryon - https://twitter.com/bryon_z https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryon-bratcher-24b1a92/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz | |||
| E8 - Conversation in Las Vegas at CLOC with Latitude Legal CRO Alex Su | 21 May 2024 | 00:31:56 | |
Zach sits down with legal influencer Alex Su for an engaging discussion about his unique career journey and insights into the legal industry's future.
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| E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan | 09 Aug 2025 | 00:47:39 | |
E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan
In episode 25 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz sits down with David Wong, Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters and Ragunath (Raghu) Ramanathan, President of Legal Professionals and Government at Thomson Reuters, to discuss the 2025 Future of Professionals Report. The conversation explores AI's increasing adoption and its impact on the legal industry.
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| E7 - How Lawyers Are Going to Make Money From AI: TermScout CEO Otto Hanson | 11 Apr 2024 | 00:39:25 | |
Zach talks with TermScout founder about the inspiration for Screens.ai, how LLMs have drastically changed their roadmap and how lawyers will now be able to generate passive income from AI.
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| E6 - How LLMs Are Supercharging User Adoption - Scott Stevenson, Spellbook CEO | 14 Mar 2024 | 00:36:40 | |
Scott talks with Zach about how LLMs have been a game changer for his company, why he likens Spellbook to an electric bicycle and why lawyers don’t use templates.
Learn More:
Scott - https://www.spellbook.legal/
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
Scott - linkedin.com/in/scottas, https://x.com/scottastevenson?s=20
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz | |||
| E5 - How Will GenAI Impact #Legaltech? - James Lee, CEO & Cofounder of LegalMation | 11 Jan 2024 | 00:32:42 | |
LegalMation CEO James Lee talks with Zach about the company's recent $15M funding round, adoption of AI by lawyers and where LLMs sometimes come up short. Learn More: James - https://www.legalmation.com/about/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: James - https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-lee-9468b64 Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz | |||
| E4 - Will AI and LLMs Cause eDiscovery to Disappear? - Andy Wilson, Co-Founder of Logikcull, Recently Acquired by Reveal | 07 Dec 2023 | 00:46:55 | |
Andy Wilson, co-founder and former CEO of Logikcull, recently acquired by Reveal. Will AI and LLMs cause eDiscovery to disappear?
Learn more about Zach at Killer Whale Strategies | |||
| E3 - Navigating the Future of Law with AI - Josh Kubicki, Brainyacts Founder and Author | 07 Dec 2023 | 01:00:14 | |
| E2 - Shaping the Future of Contracts with AI - Otto Hanson, Attorney-Turned-Tech Visionary, Founder of TermScout | 07 Dec 2023 | 00:52:52 | |
In this episode, Zach is joined by TermScout founder Otto Hanson for a discussion about AI in the legal industry, TermScout's vision of frictionless contracting and the transition from attorney to tech entrepreneur. Learn more about Zach at Killer Whale Strategies | |||
| E1 - From AI & ChatGPT to the Future of the Billable Hour - Richard Tromans, Founder of Artificial Lawyer | 07 Dec 2023 | 00:42:29 | |
In this inaugural episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted I sit down with Mr. Artificial Lawyer Himself, Richard Tromans, founder of ArtificialLawyer.com, one of the most highly read legal tech news sites. Richard has been running the site this since 2016. In this episode, we talk about why he’s currently on Sabbatical, ChatGPT and LLMs and why he hopes to see the billable hour killed. He also tells us about his upcoming conference Legal Innovators California on June 7-8 www.Legalinnovatorscalifornia.com
Learn more about Zach at Killer Whale Strategies | |||
| E24 - A Deep Dive into Harvey's Rapid Ascent with Tara Waters, TLW Consulting | 02 Jul 2025 | 00:35:12 | |
In this episode, Zach interviews Tara Waters, founder of TLW Consulting and former Chief Digital Officer at Ashurst, who led the firm’s rollout of Harvey. They discuss Harvey’s meteoric rise in legal AI, Tara’s firsthand experiences adopting Harvey within a global firm, and how legal teams evaluate AI tools. The conversation explores why lawyers initially gasped at Harvey’s capabilities, how expectations have matured, and what true digital transformation in law might require. Tara emphasizes that law firms should rethink their entire business model and workflows rather than just choosing a tool. In this episode:
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| E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures | 10 Jun 2025 | 00:32:33 | |
In this episode, Zach Abramowitz is joined by Eli Amsellem, an investor at Ridge Ventures, to delve into the hot topic of investment in legal AI. They discuss the hype around billion-dollar valuations and the reality behind customer adoption and revenue sustainability. Eli shares insights from his hands-on approach, including talking to actual buyers and hosting GC therapy dinners. They debate the future of legal AI, whether horizontal AI assistants or vertical workflow automation will prevail, and examine companies like Harvey, Legora, New Code, OpenPolicy, and Legalmation. This episode offers a nuanced view on the challenges and opportunities in the legal AI space.
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| E22 - Is AI For Contract Review Exciting? Preston Clark and Electra Japonas from LawInsider and oneNDA | 07 May 2025 | 00:49:56 | |
In this episode, Zach delves into the evolution and impact of AI on contract management with Preston Clark and Electra Japonas.
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| E21 - ChatGPT vs. Legaltech -- Who Will Win? Lawyer & Technologist Carolyn Elefant | 24 Apr 2025 | 00:30:26 | |
This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted features a conversation with lawyer and technologist Carolyn Elefant about whether legal specific tools and legacy software will be able to keep up with general applications like ChatGPT.
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| E20 - From Legacy ML To Generative AI: Serial Legaltech Entrepreneur Charlie Connor | 20 Mar 2025 | 00:51:55 | |
In this episode, Zach and Charlie delve into the rapid advancements in AI, particularly in the legal tech sector. The discussion transitions to the increasing caliber of entrepreneurs in legal tech and the acceleration of innovation in the field. They reflect on the evolution of legal AI from 2015 to 2023, noting the shift from mere ideas to full-blown products. The conversation also explores the potential for AI to reshape traditional legal processes, improve efficiency, and alter the way legal professionals approach their work, concluding with an optimistic outlook on the future of legal tech.
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| E19 - Leya Just Rebranded As Legora: Chris Williams, Head of Strategic Partnerships and Community at Legora | 18 Mar 2025 | 00:33:08 | |
In this episode, Zach speaks with Legora's head of strategic partnerships and community, Chris Williams, about the rebranding journey and the strategic role of Legora in the AI-driven legal tech landscape. The discussion covers the responsibilities of his role, the transition from selling no-code, low-code platforms to generative AI, and the significant shift in how AI is transforming legal practices. The episode also explores differences between Legora and other AI tools like Harvey, the challenges and opportunities in the market, and the future direction for legal professionals using AI. Tune in to learn about Legora's mission to build the world's first truly collaborative AI for lawyers, enhancing strategic business development while reducing non-billable work.
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| E18 - Why You Should Come to ILTA EVOLVE This April with Ogletree’s Josh Smith and Tanenbaum Keale’s Ken Jones | 10 Mar 2025 | 00:35:19 | |
Zach, Ken and Josh talk about the upcoming three day conference in Myrtle Beach focusing on AI, Cybersecurity and Data Governance. Attendees will have opportunities to interact with cutting-edge AI companies and products.The event features specific presentations, including those by startup community members, covering practical AI applications in fields like legal finance, pricing, collections, and timekeeping. Register - https://www.iltanet.org/live-events/evolve#speak Follow Along: Josh Smith https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuadsmithcissp/ Ken Jones https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethejones/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Learn More: https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
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| E32 - Harvey Co-Founder Gabe Pereyra on Building the Fastest-Growing Legal AI Company in History | 04 Nov 2025 | 00:44:34 | |
Zach sits down with Harvey cofounder Gabe Pereyra to talk about what changed after “Attention Is All You Need,” why partners - not juniors - are driving Harvey’s adoption, and how AI is teaching law firms to learn faster than ever.
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| E31 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Robin AI's Struggles and the Future of LegalTech | 30 Oct 2025 | 00:37:43 | |
Zach and Richard delve into the recent challenges faced by Robin AI, a pioneering legal tech company that has laid off staff and is seeking a buyer due to disappointing growth. They explore the significance of this news within the broader AI and legal tech industry, discussing whether Robin AI's struggles signal larger issues in the AI market.
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| E30 - Is AI Disrupting ALSPs? Axiom CSO Catherine Kemnitz | 16 Oct 2025 | 00:33:06 | |
In Episode 30 of 'Legally Disrupted,' Zach engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Catherine Kemnitz, Axiom's Chief Strategy Officer. They address a LinkedIn debate on how AI will disrupt both Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) and Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs). Katherine offers insights from her extensive legal industry experience, including her tenure at Axiom and Thomson Reuters, highlighting major transactions and strategic pivots influenced by technological advancements.
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| E29 - Why Firms Are Buying Niche AI, Centari Founder Kevin Walker | 08 Oct 2025 | 00:48:35 | |
Zach sits down with Centari founder Kevin Walker to unpack the opportunities and obstacles of selling AI to law firms when it isn’t a generalized assistant like ChatGPT or Harvey. Kevin makes the case for why tackling highly specialized problems, such as Deal Intelligence, delivers unique, lasting value to firms.
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| E28 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Inside Eudia's Groundbreaking AI-First Law Firm | 14 Sep 2025 | 00:43:35 | |
Zach and Richard break down AI-first legal services, ALSPs, and the EUDIA announcement. Asking who really owns legal AI, whether ROI even matters, and how these new firms might rewrite the rules of the industry.
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References: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2025/09/03/eudia-opens-ai-augmented-law-firm-for-ma/ Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Richard - tromansconsulting.com, artificiallawyer.com Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Richard - linkedin.com/in/artificiallawyer, https://x.com/ArtificialLawya | |||
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