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Introducing uswithoutThem16 Feb 202200:02:45

The trailer for a new podcast launching March 8, 2022 exploring the musical output of one of the greatest bands of the 21st century: mewithoutYou.

It's uswithoutThem.

S1|E1: What Do We Do Without mewithoutYou?08 Mar 202201:03:53

Welcome to uswithoutThem! In this inaugural episode, Nic, Joel, and Steven introduce the podcast and themselves and talk about the legacy of mewithoutYou, how they got into the band, and some of the things they're most excited about digging into over the course of the entire series.

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S1|E10: We Know Who Our Enemies Are11 May 202201:08:01

More poetics. More drama. More mystery. More...Nirvana? Joel, Nic, and Steven are talking about "We Know Who Our Enemies Are" this week. Join them as they try not to catch their death figuring out what the heck is going on!

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S1|E11: I Never Said That I Was Brave18 May 202200:58:26

The guys round out the second act of the narrative with a discussion of "I Never Said That I Was Brave." More historical, literary, and operatic references than are necessary (certainly), but nothing new there. Onward! Progress!

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S1|E12: (B)25 May 202200:42:17

So nice, they did it twice. Here's another 45 minutes on an instrumental track, this time the second one on [A-->B] Life. The guys talk about voids, Vonnegut, Tolkien, memory, Faust, missed opportunities--there's a lot to get into!

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S1|E13: Silencer01 Jun 202201:27:10

The guys exit the void once again but this time find themselves with the narrator in the depths of despair. Loose dresses, frozen white roses, darkness--"Silencer" is chock full of fantastic imagery. As the album approaches its conclusion, Steven, Joel, and Nic begin to tie up some of the narrative loose threads.

 

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S1|E14: The Cure For Pain11 Jun 202201:44:13

Hey. We made it. The end of [A-->B] Life is here as the guys dig deep into the final track: "The Cure for Pain." This discussion also includes the bonus track, the oft severely underrated acoustic version of "I Never Said That I Was Brave" sung by former bassist Dan Pishock. This episode is HUGE!

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S1|E15: [A-->B] Life Finale18 Jun 202201:33:55

Today (June 18, 2022) marks the 20th anniversary of the release of [A-->B] Life. In the Season 1 finale, the boys reflect on the theories preposed, try to sum up all that was said about mewithoutYou's first record, and look ahead to future seasons!

 

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S2|E1: Catch For Us The Foxes15 Oct 202201:36:17

Nic, Steven, and Joel are back with the second season of uswithoutThem in which they tackle mewithoutYou’s second album, Catch For Us The Foxes. In this episode, the boys talk about their memories associated with the record, its production, the title, and all the possible directions the season can go. Things are gonna get WILD this season, so get your interpretive theories ready!

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S2|E2: Torches Together22 Oct 202201:58:10

Through sprawling metaphors of community building, friendship, and loneliness, the opening track of Catch For Us The Foxes paints a picture more vivid than anything we find on mewithoutYou's first record. Nic, Joel, and Steven dive into those metaphors, the history of the Bruderhof community, and the promise of finding people you seem to resonate with. 

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S2|E3: January 197930 Oct 202201:58:18

This is a BIG one! Yeah, we know some of you are starting with this episode... Welcome! If you like what you hear, go back and check out the other episodes!

The guys talk about toxic church communities, suffering servants, Aaron's minor celebrity, maritime imagery, post-punk and post rock sounds, the first mention of an anthropomorphized insect in a mewithoutYou song, and A LOT more!

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S2|E4: Tie Me Up! Untie Me!05 Nov 202201:40:23

Get your dancin' shoes on! Steven, Joel, and Nic dig into Aaron's search for God in the trees and at the bottom of the ocean. We know we ask a lot of the same questions in most of these episodes, but today we learn that we're in good company. Brother (and sister and sib), you won't be far away when you listen to this week's episode!

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S1|E2: [A-->B] Life08 Mar 202200:54:00

The guys introduce the record for Season 1, [A-->B] Life, discussing musical influences and connections from Hildegard of Bingen to Slint's Spiderland and the plan to use Søren Kierkegaard's Either/Or as a potential lens through which to interpret the record. Steven also floats an interesting Tarantino-esque theory for how we can understand the narrative order of the tracks. 

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S2|E5: Leaf19 Nov 202201:21:16

The boys are back after a week off and ready to talk some more foliage and the tasting of said foliage. Do you think Tolstoy has something to do with this puzzle? Listen and find out!

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S2|E6: Disaster Tourism28 Nov 202201:37:41

Joel, Steven, and Nic hop a plane to Amsterdam in this episode! Come along as Aaron encounters a lady of the night in search of an honest man at midday. Who needs a candle when the street is so bright with red lights? Lots of talk about mission trips, eye colors and the deceptions of sight, and--of course--T.S. Eliot! 

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S2|E7: Seven Sisters05 Dec 202201:34:19

More poetry, more mythology, more... geometry? Come with us on the grassy road to discovering what all the clever words in "Seven Sisters" are all about!

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S2|E8: The Soviet18 Dec 202201:53:13

More dancing this episode as Joel, Nic, and Steven investigate what God's love has to do with the dead two-stepping. We also finally arrive at the title of the record! Have the title theories changed at all since the overview episode? Listen and find out!

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S2|E9: Paper-Hanger30 Jan 202302:18:06

We're back after a bit of an extended break, and what an episode to come back on! We dig back into evangelical church culture, questions about Aaron's relationship to that culture, where Amanda is in all of this, Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, the plight of the unhoused, the wedding at Cana--it's a lot.

Come read what's been scratched around the mouth of the glass with us!

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S2|E10: My Exit, Unfair23 Feb 202302:31:39

We had another little break between episodes, but fear not! You are being rewarded with another super sized episode. The guys talk about all the water, being in and leaving a church community, the story of Jonah, Bob Dylan, the nature of religion, and a lot more.

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S2|E11: Four Word Letter (Pt. Two), Pt. 125 May 202302:00:05

WE RECORDED A FOUR HOUR EPISODE

Post-production took some time

"Though we wanted it sooner, we had to live our lives!"

And you know who we are

You held our words on your device from afar

As we rambled blind

Listening to our whispering in your ear

Soft but getting stronger

Telling you the only purpose of listening

Is to listen a bit longer

 

Hey folks, uswithoutThem is back! We're sorry for the long break between episodes, but life happens, all of us our doing great, and we're gonna try and get the rest of Season 2 to you this summer, beginning with Part 1 of a roughly four hour conversation on "Four Word Letter (Pt. Two)!" Hopefully your summer road trip plans just got a whole lot nerdier!

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S2|E12: Four Word Letter (Pt. Two), Pt. 225 Nov 202300:48:15

For the third time this year... WE'RE BACK! Exactly 6 months ago, we gave you Part 1 of a three hour conversation on "Four Word Letter (Pt. Two)." Today we bring you the final, riveting ~50 minutes. And we plan to bring you the rest of the season pretty soon too! Thanks for sticking around and being patient with us!

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S2|E13: Carousels, Pt. 110 Dec 202301:21:03

This week we present part one of another very long conversation, this time on the penultimate track of Catch For Us The Foxes: "Carousels." We were wandering, but no longer! Out of Sinai, into your ears. 

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S2|E14: Carousels, Pt. 218 Dec 202302:05:02

We have TWO more hours for you of our "Carousels" discussion!

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S1|E3: Bullet to Binary15 Mar 202201:19:02

Joel, Nic, and Steven dive into "Bullet to Binary," the first track from [A-->B] Life, and discuss Islamic mysticism, break-ups at 20 years old, John Carpenter's Halloween theme, and the operas of Henry Purcell.

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S2|E15: Son of a Widow31 Dec 202302:21:35

Son of a widow you raised from the dead

Where did his soul go when he died again?

The guys wrap up the record with a discussion of "Son of a Widow." Steven floats a compelling theory about the chorus, lots of discussion of the book of Revelation, funerals, existentialism... It's packed!

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S2|E16: Catch For Us The Foxes Finale01 Jan 202401:36:24

The season started more than a year ago, but we finally made it! The finale of Season 2 on Catch For Us The Foxes. 

 

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S3|E1: Brother, Sister03 Jul 202402:22:07

We do not exist but faithfully insist

Recording from our separate chairs and in each tiny office room

Tiring and trying; thankfully no necessary dying!

Just chasing the proper metaphor explanations based on all we thought we knew

So much meaning to unpack, like a pop on vocal track 

Made everything sound...eh, probable? so it all can be undone

But our theories still held sway before we wrapped in May

So self-assured we taped these talks on tracks in Pro Tools 3.1

 

The uswithoutThem crew is back for Season 3 on Brother, Sister! The conversations this season were nearly uncontainable. Lots to pull out of these tracks both musically and lyrically. In the opening episode, the guys talk about what was happening musically in 2006 in "underground" music, how mewithoutYou fits into that, what the record means to them, what they're most excited to talk about, potential threads and theories, and So. Much. MORE.

 

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S3|E2: Messes of Men, Pt. 110 Jul 202401:34:01

Let's. Get. INTO IT. Steven, Joel, and Nic dive headfirst into the opening track of Brother, Sister, "Messes of Men," discussing how different this opening track is from the everything that came before it, trying to pin down some of the metaphorical meanings, and looking at the musical composition. We only got through the first verse!!

Launch your tiny caravel, and join us as we make acquaintance with the waves.

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S3|E3: Messes of Men, Pt. 217 Jul 202402:22:19

In part 2 of our Messes of Men discussion, we finally get past the first verse and into the rest of the track! The guys discuss the philosophy of history, more on mystical experience, what a singularly amazing drummer Rickie Mazzotta is, and how Greg's bass brings something new to the table. 

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S3|E4: The Dryness and the Rain24 Jul 202402:09:28

Tornados, parables, medieval music notation, Islam--this episode has it all! Come along with us as we dive into Brother, Sister's second track, "The Dryness and the Rain." Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon!

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S3|E5: Wolf Am I! (And Shadow)31 Jul 202402:13:49

Here we go, showin' off again, self-impressed by how well we can start a line of thinking and then jump from thought to thought, interrupting and starting again (music, philosophy, the Bible, music again, more philosophy, maybe some literature) not really at all like the absence of something but more like the inane ramblings of super fans for whom this simply goes on and on and on and--

Grab your black socks and white woolen locks, and join us as we become shadows on the flock!

As mentioned in the episode:

Lambert the Sheepish Lion (Disney, 1952)

 

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S3|E6: Yellow Spider07 Aug 202401:35:37

Not since the instrumental tracks on [A-->B] Life have we spent so much time talking about so little! The Spider Songs are deceptively simple, and the guys try to unpack every little aspect of this first one.

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S3|E7: A Glass Can Only Spill What It Contains24 Aug 202402:14:15

We get into allllll the animal metaphors, references to Buddhism and mysticism, and music theory you could ever want. We all agree this is an underrated track in the mewithoutYou catalog, and this episode helps explain why!

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S3|E8: Nice And Blue (Pt. 2)05 Sep 202402:23:33

The one where Joel says he's not sure what they're going to talk about and then the guys proceed to spin off a dozen different theories about the track!

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S1|E4: The Ghost22 Mar 202201:17:21

This week Steven, Nic, and Joel discuss "The Ghost" and dig deeper into their narrative theory for the record. The book of Job, Kurt Vonnegut, circus music--they get into it all!

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S3|E9: The Sun And The Moon21 Sep 202402:36:46

We've reached the [mystical?] center of the album! Nic, Joel, and Steven talk about the simplicity and complexity of faith, the possible sources of inspiration for the image of the sun and the moon, and, of course, the music!

 

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S1|E5: Nice and Blue29 Mar 202201:30:30

This week, the boys discuss track three from [A-->B] Life, "Nice and Blue." They talk about healing from emotional pain, wine and wineskins, and the use of the chromatic mediant in Franz Schubert and The Doors. Has the Narrator finally made the turn from the aesthetic life to the ethical? Or did he truly miss what he was supposed to learn?

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S1|E6: Everything Was Beautiful and Nothing Hurt05 Apr 202201:29:31

This episode is PACKED. We get a primer on John Donne and the metaphysical poets of 16th c. England, an explanation of the oft misquoted Vonnegut line from which this track takes its title, and discussions of 90s emo, 9/11, Bach, Orpheus, Cornerstone memories, mewithoutYou fashion, and much, MUCH more. Strap in, because this is definitely the best episode so far!

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S1|E7: (A)12 Apr 202200:41:59

A whole episode on an instrumental track that's less than a minute long? Preposterous! Impossible! Unthinkable! WELL THINK AGAIN! We did it, y'all. It's not the 90 minutes you've gotten the last few episodes, but it's a solid 42 minutes breaking down this instrumental transition--a musical vortex, if you will--into what we're arguing is the beginning of the narrative of the album. You also get some musings on the producer of the record, J. Robbins, who has produced a ton of late 90s/early 00s emo classics. No, not Fall Out Boy (wink). 

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S1|E8: Gentleman27 Apr 202200:53:49

That's right. We said we would come back, and now we're back, and we hope you enjoyed your time alone. But you're not alone now, because Nic, Joel, and Steven are going to come and whisper in your ear, my dear, "It'll be alright!" We may or may not be lying about that (the whispering.) The gentlemen dive into a discussion of "Gentleman," the midpoint of the record, but the beginning of our narrative arc. Is the narrator really a stalker? Is he recalling some half-forgotten memory? Was this relationship over before our story ever started? Listen as we try to pinpoint the beginning of this circle!

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S1|E9: Be Still, Child04 May 202201:23:46

Missionary relationships, Nirvana, and Mozart's Don Giovanni. What do they have in common? We think you already know the answer. The boys cover a surprisingly large amount of territory on the seventh track from [A-->B] Life, "Be Still, Child." We're half way through the season!

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S3|E10: Orange Spider09 Oct 202401:11:35

Steven, Nic, and Joel discuss "Orange Spider," the second of the Spider Songs on Brother, Sister. Who are the mice, why are "we" trying to kill them, and what is Aaron laughing at? We get into it!

 

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S3|E11: C-Minor27 Oct 202402:10:48

Our rodent friend is back! The guys talk about the meaning of the mice, an appearance by Aaron's father, another Donne connection, and that old voice of loneliness and fear. Devil disappear! This is C-Minor.

 

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S3|E12: In A Market Dimly Lit01 Dec 202402:27:00

The guys get into the groove of the mechanics of vinyl records, come up with yet another t-shirt idea, discuss the implications of Samson and a donkey's jawbone, Say Anything (the movie), Say Anything (the band), and a lot more!

 

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S3|E13: O, Porcupine, Pt. 115 Dec 202401:43:07

Nic, Steven, and Joel discuss locust swarms and whether or not they could resemble the iconic "fish tower," cross-overs with "Torches Together" and "Bullet to Binary," a LOT of biblical references (Philippians 2, Psalms 121 and 137, Romans 8, Luke 13 and 19) and monks in farmer poverty.

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S3|E14: O, Porcupine, Pt. 210 Feb 202502:05:27

The boys are back with the rest of O, Pocupine, including breaking down the guest spot from the inimitable Jeremy Enigk. 

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S3|E15: Brownish Spider05 Apr 202501:56:14

The guys are one track away from the end of the record. What is it they think they've learned? Nic, Joel, and Steven get into reflections of reality, the mechanics of a harp, more mystical experience, and what the disappearance of self and belief might mean. 

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S3|E16: In A Sweater Poorly Knit, Pt. 128 May 202502:03:36

We have arrived. But do we still exist? The guys get into the final track of Brother, Sister, including the haunting melodies, the story of little Moses drifting down the Nile, and unpacking the reasons why this track exemplifies the ways mewithoutYou's songwriting resonates with so many of us.

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S3|E17: In A Sweater Poorly Knit, Pt. 230 May 202502:10:52

Surprise! Part 2 of our "In A Sweater Poorly Knit" discussion is here. We talk holy fools and fields without fences, correct a mistake three years in the making regarding circles, probe the limits and limitlessness of language, and try to arrive at some understanding of what it means to not exist. And fawn over how awesome Greg's bass playing is some more.

It's the most packed episode yet!

 

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S3|E18: Brother, Sister Finale with Aaron Weiss11 Jun 202501:32:21

We've reached the finale! The guys are joined by Aaron Weiss to discuss the album, recollections from the recording process, and some highlights from the season, and discover together that sometimes... a mouse is just a mouse.

 

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