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In this special Veterans Day episode, we sit down with the incomparable Keturah Johnson—combat veteran, flight attendant, and International Vice President of AFA-CWA. As the first queer woman of color and veteran elected to serve in this powerful union role, Keturah shares her extraordinary journey from the tarmac to the battlefield to the picket lines. She opens up about her military service during “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” her fierce advocacy for trans rights, and the fight for visibility and equity in aviation.

This conversation is full of heart, truth, and power. We dive into what it means to wear the uniform—both in the military and in the skies—as a queer person of color, and how union activism is helping change the future of the flight attendant profession. Keturah brings receipts, realness, and the kind of candid insight that will leave you inspired (and maybe a little fired up). You don't want to miss this one.

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Episode Highlights:

[0:21] Introducing Keturah Johnson and why she’s the perfect Veterans Day guest
 [1:20] That time Keturah met Joe Biden at the airport—aviators and all
 [2:42] From catering planes to the National Guard—Keturah’s journey into the military
 [5:00] Deployed to Afghanistan: surviving combat under “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”
 [7:04] “Don’t clap for veterans—vote for them.” Keturah gets real about systemic neglect
 [10:57] Growing up in Kenya and how that shaped her global worldview
 [13:20] Losing her locks in the military and reclaiming identity through union activism
 [21:57] Fighting for uniform choice and pushing back from day one
 [24:22] Union leadership 101—stepping into power and demanding representation
 [27:44] Why diverse leadership matters and the power of being unapologetically visible
 [30:50] The importance of visibility through pins, pronouns, and showing up
 [32:47] Becoming the first queer woman of color elected to high AFA office
 [35:06] Dealing with respect and disrespect—how Keturah keeps going
 [38:24] Speaking up at work: real advice for taking action and using your voice
 [41:07] Building union power and the HRE committee’s biggest wins
 [44:43] Advice to new flight attendants: wear your pin and speak up
 [45:15] Keturah’s go-off moment—protect trans folks, respect veterans, and support women’s sports
 [46:29] Cross-Checked lightning round—window or aisle, Philly pride, and G Flip shoutouts!

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Have you ever wished there was a school for airplane passengers? Well, class is in session! In this episode, we're diving headfirst into the do’s and don’ts of airplane etiquette, straight from the galley to your ears. From overhead bin blunders to bare feet horror stories, we’re breaking down everything that makes us cringe—and laugh—when flying the friendly skies. And yes, we’ve got thoughts on your speakerphone convos and tuna sandwiches too.

We’re sharing real listener stories, our own in-flight drama, and hilarious personal experiences that highlight the bizarre (and sometimes brilliant) behavior we see onboard. If you’ve ever flown—or plan to—you won’t want to miss this crash course in sky manners. Bonus: You might just walk away knowing the true rules of the armrest game.

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Episode Highlights:

[0:39] We kick off class—welcome to the school of airplane etiquette.
 [1:26] Rich shares a passenger meltdown over a tight connection... and poor decision-making.
 [4:58] Andrew's “everything went wrong” trip, complete with delays, storms, and missed trains.
 [9:04] We react to your listener-submitted etiquette gripes—starting with bare feet on bulkheads.
[10:50] Armrest rules, manspreading, and who controls the window shade—welcome to Sky Law.
[14:44] Speakerphone sagas, juicy convos, and when it's okay (maybe) to listen in.
[17:01] PSA: Stop yanking seatbacks to stand up—your seatmate’s neck will thank you.
[18:04] The overhead bin shuffle—get what you need before sitting down!
[19:25] Safety demo respect, headphone etiquette, and who deserves your “thank you.”
[22:02] Don’t poke the flight attendant... or touch us anywhere else either.
[23:06] The great overhead bin debate—move my bag? Drew says yes. Rich says... ask first.
[26:24] The etiquette of bathroom use—just don’t. Unless you must. Then spritz, please.
[28:01] Whispered convos, stinky food, and should you snore?
[29:26] Lavatory habits and tray table horror stories—we see (and smell) it all.
[33:29] The myth of “your” overhead bin and how to stop the tantrums.
[34:39] Don’t run to the front. Stay seated. The airplane is not a race track.
[36:30] Diaper duty belongs in the lav—not on the tray table.
[37:29] Galley Gossip: Eli’s panicked passenger and the mysterious “engine smoke.”

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Hey friends! We’ve got a special one for you today – joining us in the studio is none other than our amazing friend Heather Phillips! She flew in just for this, and we couldn’t be more pumped to have her with us. Originally from Knoxville and now repping the Windy City, Heather has a wild, inspiring journey from answering a newspaper ad at 19 to spending 12+ years in the skies and now thriving as an airline recruiter.

In this episode, we talk about all things in the world of airline recruiting. Heather shares her best interview tips, what recruiters are really looking for, and how being your authentic self might just be your biggest asset. Plus, we take a fun stroll down memory lane, talking bleach-soaked dorm rooms, and our number one tip for flight attendants in training.

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Episode Highlights:

[1:27] Non-rev travel hacks and the magic of StaffTraveler.
[4:22] Heather’s fearless leap into aviation – her first flight was to training.
[6:55] Transitioning from flight attendant to recruiter – how she made the jump.
[9:37] Why flight attendants wear all the hats – and why it matters.
[11:39] What recruiters really want – hint: it’s not perfection.
[15:13] Are you really being watched during your interview journey? Heather gives us the scoop!
[18:40] Do your homework – the importance of researching the airline before you apply.
[20:44] Representing your airline and aligning with its brand – the job is more than travel perks.
[22:31] Interview red flags and the surprising reason one candidate applied.
[26:27] How we met in training – pink polos, frosted tips, and flip phones.
[29:52] Dorm drama and Clorox wipes – Heather’s southern roots show up strong.
[33:16] “Calling and Cross Check” game – Heather’s lightning round travel faves.

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Hey friends! In this episode, we’re diving into a topic we get asked about all. the. time. — why does it seem like so many flight attendants are gay? We’re breaking down the stereotypes, the realities, and sharing our personal journeys as a queer married couple working in aviation. From uniform policies to cultural experiences, from the freedom of anonymity to the challenges of truly being seen — we get into it all.

We’re also talking about how this industry has given us the space to be our loudest, proudest selves and how it continues to evolve. Whether you’re queer and curious about flight attendant life or you just want to understand the community better, this convo is open, honest, and full of heart (and, of course, a few laughs). Buckle up, because we’re ready for takeoff.

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Episode Highlights:

[1:55] Just in case you missed it — yes, we're married, and yes, very gay.
[3:00] Why flight attendant life is so appealing to LGBTQ folks.
[5:23] Letting your guard down and finally breathing free.
[7:24] Discovering culture and queer acceptance in cities around the world.
[9:11] The hidden side of anonymity in aviation.
[11:22] The evolution of gender presentation and uniform policies.
[13:21] Why comfort in your identity equals better job performance.
[14:55] Flight Attendant Friday — celebrating authentic representation.
[16:32] Travel broadens your lens — especially for queer folks.
[18:56] Breaking the mold beyond the old-school gay flight attendant stereotype.
[20:42] Ask A Flight Attendant: “Do you just turn around and go right back?”.
[23:29] The real answer and why your mom thinks you're vacationing all day.

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Ever wonder if you'd thrive wandering the streets of Paris solo or if you're better off swapping stories over cocktails with new travel buddies in Bali? In this episode, we’re soaring into the pros and cons of solo vs. group travel—from creepy stares at 35,000 feet to magical nights under the Eiffel Tower. We’re opening up about our own travel habits, biggest surprises, and a few hilarious (and slightly sketchy) stories from our journeys. We’ll also chat about how our flight attendant perks have shaped the way we travel, why we were originally hesitant about group trips, and what changed our minds. Plus, we share an emotional listener story that'll have you reaching for the tissues.

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Episode Highlights:

[1:00] - Drew gets creepily stared at by a passenger—and we try to unpack the serial killer vibes.
[3:25] - Rich's magical Paris layover and surprise encounter with Two Guys on a Plane fans.
[6:20] - Our initial fear of group travel and how Bali totally changed the game.
[8:00] - Why Drew's idea of "solo travel" really just means traveling with Rich.
[10:20] - The Airbnb horror story with chain-smoking hosts and red mattresses.
[13:08] - That time we maybe kind of almost got murdered in Greece… or not?
[15:42] - What actually made our Bali group trip so magical (spoiler: it wasn’t just the food).
[18:41] - Our hybrid travel style: freedom + structure = the perfect itinerary.
[22:06] - Spicy suckling pig, sweating through dinner, and trying new foods.
[23:00] - Feeling safe and supported: why group travel opens doors for everyone.
[24:06] - Built-in friends, low stress, and why you should travel with us.
[26:43] - Listener story: CPR at 35,000 feet and a beautiful reunion in the skies.
[28:21] - Shout out to our amazing community, Patreon supporters, and what’s next.

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What happens when two flight attendants fall in love at 35,000 feet? In this episode, we’re pulling back the curtain (literally) on what it’s like to date and build a life together while living the chaotic, beautiful, and always unpredictable life of flight crews. From long layovers to long-distance romance, we’re sharing our own story of how we met in the skies, made it work, and how our relationship has taken flight over the last 11 years.

We talk about everything from early awkward first encounters to joining each other on overnights, navigating different airlines, decoding each other's schedules, and what it really takes to make a relationship thrive when your "office" is in the sky.

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Episode Highlights:

[0:21] Kicking things off with our current flying schedules — surprisingly drama-free (for once!)

[2:47] Reflecting on an adorable couple celebrating 50 years of marriage—and realizing we still can’t do math on how long we’ve been together.

[4:00] The super awkward, super cute story of how we met on a plane (spoiler: there was clapping involved).

[6:09] How long-distance dating worked for us as two flight attendants in different cities—and why it was oddly easier than it sounds.

[9:04] The game-changing role of the StaffTraveler app and how it would’ve made our early dating days so much easier.

[11:02] Why dating someone who “gets the industry” made all the difference—and how we made time to see each other despite totally different schedules.

[14:12] The (very real) challenges of dating someone not in aviation—cue the classic, “Where are you now?” line.

[16:26] Our thoughts on how airline life actually strengthens our relationship and helps us stay intentional with our time together.

[21:55] On trust, independence, and communication—our take on why those matter even more when you’re both constantly on the move.

[23:29] A call to action: Are you dating in the industry? Flying with your partner? We want to hear your stories!

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Let's get into the good stuff—and by that, we mean the things that make our eyes twitch and our patience disappear at 35,000 feet. We asked you on Threads, “What’s something people do on planes or in airports that drives you absolutely nuts?” And wow… y’all did not hold back.

From people who act like the overhead bins are their personal closets to those who think the aisle is a yoga studio, we’re diving into some of the most hilariously frustrating behaviors that we as flight attendants—and fellow travelers—see all too often. Whether you’re guilty of a few or just want to laugh (and maybe cringe) along with us, this one is packed with ridiculous stories, relatable rants, and a whole lot of side-eye. Buckle up.

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Episode Highlights:

[0:21] Spring break madness, school chants, and flights full of chaos.
[2:04] Our wildest recent flights—and yes, the passengers were singing.
[4:35] Introducing the “gate lice” and other boarding zone nightmares.
[5:50] Pet peeve #1: Backpack bin diggers and aisle blockers.
[7:38] Bed-size blankets and full pajama sets… in public.
[11:43] “Where’s baggage claim?”—While standing under the sign.
[12:32] Airport wanderers with no traffic flow awareness.
[16:44] The overhead bin drama: It’s not your bin, folks.
[18:11] Liquid confusion at TSA… it’s been 20 years, y’all.
[19:40] Phones on speaker, loud FaceTime convos, and the power of the hard stare.
[21:26] Aggressive passengers and why being nice actually works.
[23:21] Situational awareness: noise-canceling headphones ≠ ignorance pass.
[25:40] Why people walking barefoot on planes should not be a thing.
[28:15] Nail clipping, polish fumes, and the grossest things we’ve seen.
[30:00] Galley yoga and unwanted mid-flight interpretive dance.
[31:12] Escalator freeze-ups and people who block moving walkways.
[35:00] People leaving trash everywhere—don’t be that person.

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In this episode, we’re sharing the story that started it all leading us to a life at 35,000 feet. We’re rewinding the clock and taking you through our very first steps into the world of aviation. From spotting a newspaper ad to late-night wine-fueled job applications, our journeys to the jump seat couldn’t have been more different—but they both led us to a career we absolutely love.

If you've ever been curious about the real-life process behind becoming a flight attendant—or thought it was just about slinging drinks in the sky—this one’s for you. We’re peeling back the curtain on the interview process, training challenges, and all the reasons why we still can’t get enough of this high-flying lifestyle. Whether you're thinking of joining the skies or just love a good origin story, come along for the ride.

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Episode Highlights:

[0:26] Why we’re telling our own flight attendant origin stories.
[1:01] Andrew’s spontaneous jump into aviation thanks to a newspaper ad.
[3:43] Rich’s burnout moment, a couch, a glass of wine, and a whim job search.
[7:21] Comparing our totally different interview processes—paper apps vs. phone screens.
[13:36] The eye-opening realities of flight attendant training (spoiler: no, it’s not just drink service).
[16:59] Switching airlines: Drew’s leap from regional to mainline after a decade in the skies.
[20:39] What keeps us flying—the flexibility, the crew camaraderie, and the thrill of the takeoff.
[23:45] Our love for this life and why we’re probably lifers.
[24:44] How you can share your own flight attendant journey with us for #FlightAttendantFriday.

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Welcome back to Two Guys on a Plane! This episode is extra special because it’s all about YOU. We opened up our Instagram and let you ask us anything — and you guys did not hold back. From how we met, to our favorite layovers, our most unforgettable celebrity encounters, and even our weirdest finds in the seatback pockets... we’re spilling it all.

We’re soaring into flight attendant life, our personal travel hacks, favorite airports, and of course, plenty of hilarious stories along the way. Trust us, you’re gonna want to hear how a beer bath almost ended badly and why beef jerky might just save your next trip. Buckle up — this is a fun one!

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Episode Highlights:

[0:00] Kicking off our AMA and talking about the chaos that is flying these days.
[2:12] How we started Two Guys on a Plane and why our memes actually don't suck.
[4:09] The story of how we met (hint: someone was a commuter!).
[5:32] Our favorite Philly restaurants — and why you need to hit up Graffiti Bar.
[6:49] What we do when we're not flying: happy hours, hiking (sort of), and concerts.
[8:15] Favorite layovers (spoiler: it's not always the big cities!).
[10:59] Non-rev life hacks and why StaffTraveler changed our travel game.
[13:50] Favorite and least favorite airports — and why LaGuardia had a glow-up.
[16:20] Good trip with a bad crew vs bad trip with a good crew (easy answer!).
[16:34] Our favorite trip together — featuring beer baths and beach parties.
[18:22] Celebrity encounters: from Julianne Hough to Flavor Flav.
[20:37] Do flight attendants really have secret codes for passengers?
[22:38] Must-haves in our carry-ons (yes, beef jerky is essential).
[23:56] Our best jet lag survival tips.
[24:41] Why we couldn't pick just one destination forever (and wouldn't!).
[25:25] Favorite airlines to fly as passengers — it's like visiting family.
[26:11] Best and worst parts of being a flight attendant: it’s all about the people.

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Hey y’all, it’s Rich and Drew—your favorite flight attendants and meme-makers—and we’re officially bringing you behind the curtain (and out of the galley) with the very first episode of the Two Guys on a Plane podcast! This “pilot” episode is our chance to spill all the tea on how our now-not-so-little Instagram account went from cheesy travel pics to a community-driven platform full of memes, laughs, and heartfelt stories from flight attendants around the world.

We’re talking about where the name came from (spoiler: it’s more literal than you think), how our meme game got started (PowerPoint, anyone?), and the moment we realized that Two Guys on a Plane was more than just jokes—it was connection. We’re reflecting on everything from our Flight Attendant Friday feature to writing blog posts during COVID, and even what’s next for us (hello, group trips and podcast dreams!). Whether you’re a seasoned flyer or someone who just stumbled into our corner of the internet, this episode is full of hilarious memories, behind-the-scenes confessions, and a whole lotta heart.

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Episode Highlights:

[0:21] Kicking off the podcast—who we are and why we’re doing this.
[1:17] The very literal (and slightly ridiculous) naming process of Two Guys on a Plane.
[2:34] Why we started the Instagram account and what we originally thought it’d be.
[4:04] The meme that changed it all—and how PowerPoint played a starring role.
[6:15] Our collaborative meme-making process and the evolution of our humor.
[7:37] When we realized we were building more than a meme account—especially during COVID.
[9:27] The birth of Flight Attendant Friday and why those stories matter so much.
[11:43] Our comment section = constant comedy gold.
[13:03] The ultimate undercover moment when a coworker didn’t realize she was working with us.
[15:49] Is this what we thought Two Guys on a Plane would be? Not even close.
[16:58] What’s next for us? Group travel, podcasting, merch—and who knows what else.
[18:35] Wrapping up with merch, memories, and what you can expect from future episodes.

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