The Unity Rock Podcast brings you real conversations with visionaries and integrators in the EOS community.

Hosted by Clayton Stenson, The Unity Guide, each episode explores vision, people, and the strategies that turn ideas into impact. Subscribe and let’s get into the conversation.

In this episode, Clayton sits down with Darin Williamson, Certified EOS Implementer and Exit Plan Quarterback from South Dakota. Darin shares his journey from being a 21-year-old walking into a bank asking for a quarter million dollars (with zero projections) to building multiple companies that employed half his small town—all while living in complete chaos until his key employee gave him an ultimatum: hear out this EOS implementer, or I'm out.

Darin gets real about the emotional side of letting go. He discusses the false belief that "nobody can do this as good as I can," why delegation feels like mourning a loss even while celebrating growth, and the identity crisis that hits when you're suddenly not needed for every decision. He explains why visionaries get bored when they finally delegate (and why that's actually the goal), the fear that's "a mile wide and an inch deep," and why integrators are "God's gift to visionaries." Darin also shares his powerful anchor analogy for finding the right integrator and why trust is the single most important factor in VI duo success.

Connect with Darin Williamson

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darin-williamsoneosi/

Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/darin-williamson/
Learn more about EOS in the book "Traction" https://amzn.to/4ay5rzw

In this episode, Clayton sits down with Benj Miller, founder of System & Soul and author of "Renegades." Benj shares the dramatic moment that changed everything: sitting in a beautiful atrium, spilling his guts about everything going wrong, when his coach asked, "Do you think you were created to run this business?" That question led him to walk back to his office, put his keys on Jason's desk, and say "You're in charge"—then leave.

Benj discusses why he calls himself a "visionary therapist" (the biggest challenge is identity, not competence), the brilliant "rent me" and "10-80-10" framework, and why visionaries carry weight like "wearing a tuxedo in the front and a hospital gown in the back." He explains why operators need compassion for that burden, how to find "the third option" where both people win at 100%, and why his book "Renegades" makes visionaries feel seen while helping operators understand the person on the other side of the relationship.

Connect with Benj Miller

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benj-miller-business-growth-impact-framework-coach/

System & Soul: https://www.systemandsoul.com/

Book: "Renegades" https://www.amazon.ca/Renegades

In this episode, Clayton sits down with Beth Fahey, Expert EOS Implementer, co-author of ROLLOUT: Get Your Entire Team Running on EOS to Achieve Your Vision, and co-creator of the Great Boss Workshop. Beth shares her unique perspective as someone who scored a rare 92 in visionary and 89 in integrator on the Crystallizer assessment, giving her insight into both sides of the relationship.

Beth shares her journey from sitting in four leadership seats simultaneously at her bakery to finally landing in just the visionary seat. She discusses why the integrator is the "hype man" for the visionary, the most common V/I duo challenge (steamrolling visionary meets placating integrator), and why communication is the single most important success factor. She explains what the same page meeting is really for and how integrators need to coach visionaries on their "word salad" communication style before it creates leadership team churn.

Connect with Beth Fahey

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethfahey/

Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/beth-fahey/

Books: "ROLLOUT: Get Your Entire Team Running on EOS to Achieve Your Vision" https://amzn.to/4rTxoc8

How to be a Great Boss Book https://amzn.to/4qIkJYu

In this episode, Clayton sits down with Ken DeWitt, Expert EOS Implementer and founder of DeWitt LLC from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Ken shares the humbling story of how he discovered he was a visionary through the nickname "Hurricane Ken", complete with a flag system his terrified employees used to gauge his intensity.

Ken opens up about the soul-crushing moment a workplace psychologist told him "your intensity scares the crap out of people," and the 30-year journey of self-awareness that followed. From horseback riding retreats to help him stay calm, to learning that visionaries drop "pebbles" that employees hear as "rocks," Ken's honesty about his blind spots is refreshing. He discusses why visionaries and integrators need to stop trying to fix each other and start trusting each other, the critical importance of same-page meetings (even when things feel fine), and why the visionary-integrator relationship requires the same commitment as a good marriage.

Connect with Ken DeWitt

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethdewitt/

DeWitt LLC: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/ken-dewitt/
Book mentioned: "Traction" by Gino Wickman https://amzn.to/4qAJhCF

In this episode, Clayton sits down with Jonathan Reynolds, founder of Titus Talent and bestselling author of "Right Seats, Right People". Jonathan shares the remarkable story of how he discovered his role as a visionary through an unexpected partnership with his now-integrator, Scott—a relationship that started with a complete role reversal.

Jonathan opens up about the challenge of keeping ego in check, the importance of viewing leadership as servanthood rather than identity, and why humility is the single most important factor in visionary-integrator success. From testing your ego when someone does your job better to thinking of yourself as a supporting actor in everyone else's story, this conversation goes deep into what it really takes to lead well.

Jonathan also hosts the Talent Talks Podcast, where he shares practical strategies and innovative ideas rooted in his people-first philosophy, definitely worth checking out if you want more of his wisdom on building high-performing teams.

Connect with Jonathan Reynolds

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanreynolds/

Titus Talent: https://www.titustalent.com/

Talent Talks Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/talent-talks/id1708214738

Book: "Right Seats, Right People" https://amzn.to/4bSuHmp