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| #35- Chris Burns - Fuck 'Em if They Can't Take a Choke | 01 Aug 2025 | 01:47:51 | |
Host Chris Odell has a long and amusing conversation with BJJ Black Belt and somewhat reluctant BJJ instructional video star Chris Burns. They discuss Chris' history and current work in the realm of Jiu Jitsu, their shared passion for the original martial art, particularly as shown by Rickson Gracie, in contrast to the sport style. They also explore the teaching mindset, and dig into Chris' unique, sometimes controversial personality and presentation. Chris Burns is a second degree black belt under Rickson Gracie and the founder of the Zero Point Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy. He also works with The BJJ Project which produces a ton a of great content with his teachings. Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #34 - James Driskill - Rickson's Uke & Principal Learning | 07 Jul 2025 | 01:52:09 | |
Chris sits down with James Driskill, a Rickson Gracie black belt currently serving as Rickson's full time uke and assistant instructor. James has applied the principals of learning to many areas of life including regenerative agriculture, cannabis farming and many more topics covered in the discussion. Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #25 - Oren Amitay - Psychology, Free Speech and Well Adjusted Children | 01 Jan 2018 | 01:37:35 | |
Dr. Oren Amitay a psychologist trained in 8 different therapy orientations, a university lecturer and serves as an expert witness in the Ontario court system. He also has a podcast called “The Real Reality”. Chris and Oren discuss psychology, raising well adjusted children, PC/SJW extremist politics, social media, and psychedelics. Guest links: DocAmitay.com Oren's Youtube Oren's Twitter Oren's Facebook Sponsored by Datsusara Twitter: @DatsuChris Facebook: Chris Datsusara Odell Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #24 - Jonathan Pageau - The Symbolic Worldview | 01 Dec 2017 | 01:45:44 | |
Jonathan Pageau is an Eastern Orthodox religious icon carver by trade. Recently he has also been speaking on and making videos which explore the symbolic worldview. Chris talks with Jonathan about his personal Datsusara journey which led to his work as an icon carver and also his more recent endeavors exploring symbology in myth, religion, society and culture. Chris gets into his allergic response to organized religion and discusses literal vs symbolic interpretations of Christianity, including making sense of seemingly illogical purity laws like not mixing cotton with wool. Also much to Chris' delight the true legend of the dog headed St. Christopher is revealed. A fun, lighthearted and hopefully enlightening conversation all will enjoy. Guest links: Pageau carvings Jonathan's Twitter Video version available on YouTube at https://youtu.be/P8msxsJQdcA Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #23 - Clay Routledge - The Psychological Significance of Meaningful Lives | 01 Nov 2017 | 01:28:14 | |
Dr. Clay Routledge is an author, psychological scientist, and professor. His research focuses on the many ways that people gain and maintain perceptions of meaning in life and how these perceptions contribute to psychological wellbeing, physical health, and intergroup relations. Chris talks with Clay about how people find meaning in their lives, and the sometimes strange places that path can lead. The discussion also gets into the current problems in academia and the related cultural struggle seen playing out in modern society. Guest links: ClayRoutledge.com Clay's Twitter
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #22 - Jordan Peterson - Self Authoring & Truth | 01 Oct 2017 | 00:55:19 | |
Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto and previously at Harvard. He has written multiple books and produced hundreds of lectures on topics of psychology, mythology, neuroscience, religion, war and in particular the works and philosophy of Jung, Freud, Piaget, Rogers, Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Kierkegaard, and Heidegger. He has also been very active in the political realm of late, taking a stance for free speech, justice, and responsibility, especially as it relates to Academia. Chris talks with Peterson about finding one's path, motivation, environmental issues, public debate, learning to articulate, identity politics and more. Video version on YouTube Guest links: JordanPeterson.com Self Authoring Jordan's Youtube Jordan's Twitter Jordan' Patreon Jordan's Facebook
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #21 - Nick Osipczak - Martial Arts Spirit | 15 Sep 2017 | 00:56:53 | |
Nick Osipczak is a British Mixed Martial Artist that has fought in the UFC and also starred on "The Ultimate Fighter" tv show. Nick brings a unique perspective to the arts as he comes from a Tai Chi background and has learned how to integrate that into his MMA practice. Nick also teaches the various MMA aspects, Tai Chi, meditation and much more. He also creates sacred geometry art pieces. Chris and co-host Peter Hyoguchi drink tea, discuss martial arts, life direction and spiritual matters with Nick. This episode was recorded at Chris' home outside and includes the sounds of crows and Kira, and Buddha (Chris daughter and dog), enjoy. Guest links: Raised Spirit Nick's Twitter
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #20 - Matt Thornton - Authenticity is Alive | 01 Sep 2017 | 00:58:38 | |
Matt Thornton is the founder of Straight Blast Gym International, an association of over 35 gyms worldwide engaged in training athletes in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, boxing and mixed martial arts. Matt has also been applying many of his ideas to the discipline of philosophy, where he champions skepticism, rationality, and the scientific method. Matt speaks with Chris about the concepts of Aliveness in training and authenticity in martial arts and life in genneral. Also discussed is Connor McGregor as Connor trains out of SBG Ireland. Guest links: Straight Blast Gym MattThornton.org Matt's Twitter
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #19 - Katy Bowman - Nutritious Movement Matters | 01 Aug 2017 | 01:08:21 | |
Katy Bowman is biomechanist, author and instructor who has focused her studies and teaching on the everyday movement patterns of human beings. Katy blends a scientific approach with straight talk solutions to healthy living via everyday lifestyle choices, rather than making personal health care something that happens on a schedule in isolated situations. In this podcast we get a genneral overview of her studies and and the body of her public work including her books and her teaching outlet "Movement Matters". We discuss the issues that arise from a sedentary lifestyle and from overtraining in the gym without thinking about our daily movements in all situations. Katy also touches on our genetic evolution and why our regular movement is so important to well being. Guest links: NutritiousMovement.com Nutritious Movement Instagram Nutritious Movement Facebook Nutritious Movement Twitter Nutritious Movement YouTube
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #18 - Dr. Alex Feng - Born to the Path | 01 Jul 2017 | 01:06:57 | |
An accomplished healer, teacher, and martial artist, Dr. Feng, was literally born into a living philosophy. He provides a short introduction to Taoism, where he sees all practice and ritual having a foundation in gratitude. He also shares his own perspective and advice for people on the Datsusara path. Guest links: The Taoist Center
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #17 - Richie Boogeyman Martinez - Rise of the Freak Brother | 01 Jun 2017 | 01:02:38 | |
Dancer, Fighter, Businessman. A 10th Planet Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt under Eddie Bravo, Richie discusses his personal Datsusara history, his present, and his future. Already an accomplished Break Dancer, Jiu-Jitsu and MMA were never his first choice. Stuck in an unhappy, unsatisfying, work situation, he, along with his brother, Geo, found escape through Jiu-Jitsu and a newly discovered passion for teaching. Guest social links: 10th Planet San Diego 10th Planet Oceanside Richie's Instagram
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #16 - Kathy Odell - Thoughtful Leadership, Ethics in Business and Personal Life | 01 May 2017 | 01:35:48 | |
In this episode we change things up and talk with Kathy Odell who is a senior executive with over 30 years of leadership experience in early stage and high growth enterprises. Kathy talks with host Chris Odell about her history and challenges from growing up in a time where women had just entered the workplace to becoming a successful self taught executive. Yes Kathy is Chris' mother so we explore some family history as well. It's surprising what one can learn about their own mother via an interview format vs pieces of stories told at various times. Also discussed:
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #33 - Josh McKinney - I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu | 26 May 2025 | 01:06:50 | |
Josh McKinney and Chris Odell have a fun talk about various topics revolving mostly around Josh's life journey from being a fat kid needing exercise to becoming a top level competitor, to founding his own gym. Josh is also the host of a podcast that Datsusara proudly sponsors called "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu". " where "each episode will help you suck just a little less at jiu-jitsu, or your money back"! Josh McKinney's "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu" Podcast and YouTube Channel Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).
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| #15 - Ulises Bella - The Street Dragon, Nonstop Chaos | 03 Apr 2017 | 01:11:50 | |
The long delayed interview with Grammy winning artist and Jiu Jitsu black belt, Ulises Bella of Ozomatli. Chris and Ben were able to sit down with him recently in Los Angeles at the Ghetto Dojo for a fun conversation full of unexpected turns. The running theme of this interview is the importance of honest self expression in music, Jiu Jitsu and life in general. Also discussed is the upcoming Ozomatli album, Nonstop Mexico to Jamaica. Related links: Uli's Twitter Ozomatli Ghetto Dojo
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #14 - Noble Smith - The Wisdom of the Shire | 28 Feb 2017 | 01:13:01 | |
Datsusara founder and podcast host, Chris Odell has often been compared to a Hobbit by at least by one member of the Datsusara staff. So it's more than appropriate that this month's discussion is with award winning author of Wisdom of the Shire, Noble Smith -- who, among other things, also writes fiction, has produced films, and has worked with an international human rights foundation. Related links: The Wisdom of the Shire: A Short Guide to a Long and Happy Life by Smith, Noble http://www.thewarriortrilogy.com https://twitter.com/ShireWisdom
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #13 - Joe Henney - Industrial Designer, Father & Farmer | 04 Feb 2017 | 01:05:01 | |
Chris Odell and co-host Ben Charles sit down with industrial designer, father and farmer Joe Henney. We talk about why he chose to work in the industrial design field, working as a freelancer, time management as a father, and life on his 6 acre farm.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #12 - Chris Odell - Ask Me Anything | 04 Jan 2017 | 01:27:30 | |
The second in our "Ask Me Anything"(AMA) style episodes with Datsusara founder Chris Odell and co-host Benjamin Charles. Chris answers the questions below that were submitted via social media and talks about winter challenges.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #11 - Matt Ross - Captain Fantastic | 30 Nov 2016 | 00:54:42 | |
Matt Ross is a film and television actor whom you may have seen in American Psycho, The Aviator, Big Love or Silicon Valley. He more recently wrote and directed a film called Captain Fantastic which is about a father completely dedicated to raising his six children, by very unconventional means, in the forests of the Pacific Northwest. He is also a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu practitioner amongst other interesting things that are discussed in this episode such as living in the wilderness vs city centers, raising children, working in Hollywood and the general problems of modern civilization. Related links: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0743671/ http://www.bleeckerstreetmedia.com/captainfantastic
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #10 - Richard Manning - Go Wild, Freedom from Modern Afflictions | 20 Oct 2016 | 01:06:52 | |
Investigate journalist and author Richard Manning talks with us on a broad range of topics, from environmental issues to how to prevent disease by living more in accord with our genes. In particular we focus on issues covered in his book "Go Wild: Free Your Mind and Body from the Afflictions of Civilization".
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #9 - Antero Alli - Embrace the Void | 23 Sep 2016 | 01:25:42 | |
Antero Alli returns to the podcast to wax philosophical with Chris about various subjects ranging from personal integrity of action to the potential for bliss or terror created by freedom of time. Antero Alli comes from a deep background of writing, directing, and producing experimental theatre and numerous underground films. He is also the author of eight books including Angel Tech, The Eight-Circuit Brain, and Towards an Archeology of the Soul.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #8 - Nathan Orchard & Phil Schwartz - Liberation, Violence, & Jiu Jitsu | 24 Aug 2016 | 01:23:11 | |
Nathan and Phil are founders of 10th Planet Portland, a branch of the 10th Planet no-gi Jiu Jitsu system. Nathan is a black belt and Phil a high level brown belt. Nathan has competed at the Eddie Bravo Invitational which airs on UFC Fight Pass. Related Links:
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #7 - Rollie Peterkin - Leaving Wall Street to Become an MMA Fighter in Peru | 08 Jul 2016 | 01:09:28 | |
Rollie Peterkin is an excellent example of a Datsusara as he left a lucrative career on Wall Street to become an MMA fighter in Peru. His journey doesn't stop there and you'll hear all about it in this episode. It's a great example of how a more simple and more natural life can also be a more fulfilling life. Related Links: Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #6 - Chris Odell - Ask Me Anything | 16 Jun 2016 | 01:14:59 | |
This is the first of our occasional "Ask Me Anything"(AMA) style episodes with Datsusara founder Chris Odell and co-host Benjamin Charles. Chris answers questions that were submitted via social media. Topics range from industrial hemp issues to which Star Trek captain is the best. Enjoy.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #32 - Akira the Don - Meaningwave | 03 Mar 2025 | 01:22:23 | |
Akira The Don talks with Chris about how and why he creates music that channels the great philosophy of the ages, finding meaning in life through dark times, Chris' return to the podcast and jiu jitsu. Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #5 - Mark Cheng - Training, Healing & Balance | 17 May 2016 | 01:10:44 | |
Dr. Mark Cheng has carved a unique path in the world of human performance as both a sought-after clinician and a respected strength & conditioning coach / martial arts researcher. He talk to us about how he became a healer after training in the martial arts for many year. Also discussed is the lack of balance seen in modern martial arts between fighting and healing knowledge.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #4 - Duncan Trussell - Escape Velocity Comedy | 19 Apr 2016 | 01:22:54 | |
Duncan Trussell talks about his journey to becoming a successful comedian and podcaster, the energy it takes to set your own course, and his thoughts on the state of the human condition.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #3 - Henry Akins - Hidden Jiu Jitsu | 07 Mar 2016 | 00:39:06 | |
Henry Akins has been training in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for over 20 years. He is a black belt under the legendary Rickson Gracie and taught at Rickson's school for 10 years. He currently teaches the art full time at Dynamix MMA in Santa Monica, California where he has been since 2011. He is also the founder of Hidden Jiu Jitsu which is his take on Rickson's BJJ concepts.
Co-Host: Ben Charles Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #2 - Daniele Bolelli - On the Warrior's Path | 07 Mar 2016 | 00:46:51 | |
Daniele Bolelli is an Italian-born writer, martial artist, university professor, podcaster and father. He talks with us about his path to get where he is now and his trials along the way. We also discuss time management and other issues at the heart of the Datsusara lifestyle. Related Links: Co-Host: Ben Charles Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #1 - Antero Alli - Living Outside the Machine. | 07 Mar 2016 | 01:28:50 | |
Antero Alli is about as Datsusara as one can be as he has led a life of integrity independent of the corporate machine. He shares his history and tales of his adventures along the way along with advice on how to find yourself and stay true.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #0 - Chris Odell - Introduction to The Datsusara Podcast | 07 Mar 2016 | 00:07:04 | |
Chris Odell with a brief introduction to help set the stage for what you can expect from the show. • The definition of Datsusara Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #31 - Bob Kotowski - Olde School Golf | 28 Nov 2018 | 01:32:36 | |
Chris interviews his friend and golf instructor Bob Kotowski, a PGA professional. They discuss their love of the sport and how the lessons apply well beyond the golf course. An accomplished PGA golf instructor and personal coach to over 10,000 students, Bob Kotowski has over 50 years of hands-on, “dig it out of the dirt” golf history. Bob has a diverse and extensive golf and athletic background, as well as formal education and mentoring from some of the greatest golf instructors in the world. Guest links: http://www.oldeschoolgolfschool.com https://www.facebook.com/oldeschoolgolfschool/ Sponsored by Datsusara Twitter: @DatsuChris Facebook: Chris Datsusara Odell Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #30 - Oren Amitay - Calm the Mind and Face Your Fears | 13 Jun 2018 | 01:35:44 | |
Dr. Oren Amitay returns to the podcast to talk with Chris about psychological techniques for calming the mind in order to combat fear, anxiety and paralysis from over conscientiousness. Dr. Oren Amitay a psychologist trained in 8 different therapy orientations, a university lecturer and serves as an expert witness in the Ontario court system. He also has a podcast called “The Real Reality”. Also on youtube at: https://youtu.be/aPQAZBG_rIY Guest links: http://docamitay.com http://www.youtube.com/user/DocAmitay https://twitter.com/docamitay https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-O-Amitay/511167325583734 Sponsored by Datsusara Twitter: @DatsuChris Facebook: Chris Datsusara Odell Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #29 - Lee Mellor - Murder, Free Speech, and Storytelling | 01 May 2018 | 02:44:59 | |
Lee Mellor is a author, criminologist and profiler specializing in abnormal homicide and sex crimes, lecturer, podcaster and singer-songwriter. In this episode Chris talks with Lee about his interesting choice of studying murder and why that is such a fascinating topic for people, free speech and the problems with modern cinema.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #28 - Chris Odell - Ask Me Anything, April 2018 | 01 Apr 2018 | 01:07:48 | |
The third in our "Ask Me Anything"(AMA) style episodes with Datsusara founder Chris Odell. Chris answers questions submitted and voted on via Reddit. Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #27 - Antero Alli - Motivation for Creation | 01 Mar 2018 | 01:24:11 | |
Antero returns to the podcast to share his thoughts with Chris on topics ranging from meaningful occupations, to psychedelic exploration to transforming uncertainty into motivation for creation. Antero Alli comes from a deep background of writing, directing, and producing experimental theatre and numerous underground films. He is also the author of eight books including Angel Tech, The Eight-Circuit Brain, and Towards an Archeology of the Soul.
Sponsored by Datsusara Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||
| #26 - Travis Newaza - Jiu Jitsu Philosophy and Brand Building | 01 Feb 2018 | 01:24:47 | |
Travis Newaza Warner is a well known and somewhat controversial and mysterious figure in the Jiu Jitsu community. He founded the company Newaza Apparel in order to fund his competitive Jiu Jitsu journey featuring matches and title wins at high profile competitions including Gracie Worlds, and Polaris. Chris talks with Travis about martial arts history, philosophy and it's application in brand building. Guest links: http://americanajiujitsucollective.com https://www.facebook.com/Travisnewazaoffical https://www.instagram.com/travisnewaza/ https://twitter.com/travisnewaza
Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You). | |||