Martin Rolfe, CEO of NATS National Air Traffic Services of the UK, and one of the longest serving CEOs of an ANSP in Europe talks with Global Airspace Radar editor Marita Lintener about his learnings during his career and the challenges for the sector.

They are unpacking the strategic topics of Air Traffic Management (ATM): Implementation of new technologies and integrated systems, the importance of space operations, introduction of Advanced Air Mobility and its business case, and his predictions for the impacts of Artificial Intelligence (AI) on Air Navigation Services. Do not miss the conversation concluding on future skills, appeal of the aviation sector in competitive job markets and how the ATM profession will look in 2035.

In today’s episode, two guests from NASA Ames Research Center - Heather Arneson, Deputy Project Manager for Execution of the Air Traffic Management and Safety Project, and Jeff Homola, Aeronautics Researcher and Higher Airspace Traffic Management Concept Lead speak with Global Airspace Radar editor Katarzyna Żmudzińska about high-altitude traffic management.

Heather and Jeff explain that high-altitude operations are meant to take place at altitudes from 50,000 feet, well above traditional air traffic, and that there are numerous promising use cases currently being explored, such as imagery, emergency response and telecommunications.

The guests also explain why high-altitude traffic management is very different from traditional Air Traffic Control (ATC), and what is being done to develop safe and efficient coordination between high-altitude and conventional air traffic.

Malte Seifert, director of XPONENTIAL Europe met with our Editor-in-Chief, Claudia Bacco to look ahead at the upcoming event on the 24-26th March in Düsseldorf, Germany.

The event is only in its second year but has seen a great amount of growth from exhibitors and registered attendees compared to last year's event. There are also more live demonstrations planned for this year, a hackathon, startup pitching competition and additional conference tracks.

In addition to the XPONENTIAL Conference programme there are also Partner Conferences including the European Drone Forum, Cybersecurity Forum, Standards Forum, Bundeswehr German Drone Defence & Innovation Forum and the Autonomous Inland & Short Sea Shipping Conference. 

Bringing together these topics under one roof allows for different participants to network and learn from other industry verticals facing similar challenges.

For this episode we have as a guest Christian Schleifer, the General Director at EUROCAE. We discussed the following:

• Goals, activities and members of EUROCAE
• How are the activities funded
• How can members contribute & What kind of organisation can join
• Latest activities around UTM 
• ED standards outside of Europe
• Future of ATM and of standardization in the coming 5 and 50 years

In this episode we had a guest from Portugal. Marcos Coelho Costa is the Member of Corporate Strategy and External Affairs at NavPortugal, the Portuguese ANSP.  The topic of this episode is Cooperations between ANSPs: Portugal’s Perspective and we discussed the following:

• The level of cooperation in air traffic management has been constantly increasing in the last decades - what does this mean concretely for NavPortugal
• Thought on the actual results of cooperation strategies
• As NavPortugal controls a lot of oceanic airspace, they co-operate outside of Europe too. What are the partners and what are the challenges of working with ANSPs thousands of miles apart
• Considering the long lasting collaboration with some Portuguese speaking ANSPs, how have NavPortugal achieved to maintain it and strengthen it throughout the years
• Tip to someone new to the domain wanting to look for new partnerships
• ATC in 5 years & in 50 years

The guest of this episode is from the USA. We have talked with Jen Lemmon, the President of PWC Organisation (Professional Women Controllers) and the Operations Manager at the Houston Tower for FAA. We talked about how important it is to bring awareness about aviation career opportunities for young girls and women and also about the following aspects:

• What is the status of gender equality in ATM and why it is important
• What are the factors causing a better gender balance in our industry
• What can be done to get more girls to know that they can be air traffic controllers
• What are PWC’s main activities & the goals to achieve in the next 5 years
• How can listeners support PWC
• Evolution of ATM in the next 5 years & in the next 50 years? Will it be more balanced when it comes to the gender share of the industry?

The guest of this episode comes from the USA. Cyriel Kronenburg, is the Vice President International Development and Strategic Partnerships at uAvionix Corporation. We have discussed an interesting topic with the following aspects:

• What are TIS-B and FIS-B and how they relate to ADS-B
• The safety benefits of TIS-B-FIS-B and the role it can play in the integration of all airspace users
• Where are TIS-B and FIS-B used, geographically
• TIS-B and FIS-B were developed for general aviation, initially. How can they be used for unmanned vehicles and the integration of drones
• What is uAvionix doing on TIS-B and FIS-B market
• U-Space future: Will operators have to change drone related equipment depending on the country
• uAvionix and U-Space challenges
• Specifics of doing equipment for drones and for A/C 
• Integration of drones at airports
• ATM and UTM in 5 years and in 50 years in the US and abroad

In this episode we have two guests from skyguide  - Mario Winiger, the Just Culture Ambassador & Melanie Hulliger, the Line Safety Delegate. We have discussed the following aspects:

• What is Just Culture and why is it needed
• If the ATCO reports the error himself, is he freed of any charges or how does it work
• Responsibilities of the job of a Just Culture Ambassador as such and why does skyguide needs one
• Changing the law in regards to Just Culture & how was this process
• How is Just Culture implemented around the world in ATM and in Switzerland
• Just culture in 5 years from now and in 50 years from now
• ATM in 5 years from now and in 50 years from now

Following our conversation with Benoit Fonck from SESAR Joint Undertaking (Episode 009), the guest of this episode is Mariagrazia La Piscopia, the Chief Strategy and Program Manager at SESAR Deployment Manager. We discuss the following aspects in regards to the deployment of SESAR:

• What is SESAR deployment, why is it needed, how is it organized and who is involved
• How is SDM different from SJU
• What are the main benefits of SESAR deployment for ATM and European aviation / economy in general
• What has been good, what could be done differently, what are the challenges at SDM
• Operational stakeholders in SESAR deployment
• How can smaller ATM companies participate in the implementation of SESAR projects
• Importance of continuing the digitization and modernization of European ATM
• Key drivers for a smooth continuation of ATM modernization through SESAR
• ATM in the next 5 years and in the next 50 years 

The guest of this episode is Marek Bekier - Senior VP ACR. The topic of this episode is private ANSPs & new ANSPs and we touched the following aspects: 

• What distinguishes ACR, and other private ANSPs providers, from the legacy state-owned ANSPs, while looking at the organizational structure 
• Initial ATCO training takes years and costs a lot of money. How does ACR do the training: in-house or subcontracting 
• What is the service portfolio that ACR and other private ANSPs can offer the airport segment - today and tomorrow
• How do incumbent ANSPs normally react to competition in the market and how regulators react to a private ANSP
• Relationship with legacy ANSPs 
• Experience and particularities while working with smaller airports 
• How was the transition when taking over from the legacy ANSP
• ATM in 5 years from now and in 50 years from now 

The guest of this Episode comes from France. Loïc de Rancourt is the Expert of Performance Operations and the Project Manager for Skylab, at the Parisian division of DSNA. We discussed the following:

• Origin of Skylab project, need for performance management
• Choice of KPIs, who choses, which KPIs, target audience, time horizon (retrospective, vs. tactical, vs. post-ops)
• Proximity to operations at all stages of the project, including development on site
• Lessons learned from measured KPIs, COVID effects
• Lessons learned from developing close to operations vs. centralized development by a central technical department
• ATM / performance management in 5 years and in 50 years

The guests of this episode are Vicky Bhogal-Hunt, ATC Operations Specialist at Air Navigation Solutions Ltd and Paul Diestelkamp, the Head of Business Development & Solutions from Air Navigation Solutions Ltd (ANSL). The topic is radar in the tower and we touched the following aspects: 

• With radar in the tower, the approach service is provided by an ATCO sitting in the tower and not in the approach room - so, is it one more ATCO in the tower or is it the same tower ATCO managing TWR and APP traffic at the same time
• whether RiTT is replacing the usual approach unit or is it used in low traffic situations only
• In some cases, the APP is not collocated with the TWR. Advantages of RiTT in such a case
• Impact of RiTT in terms of ATCOs obtaining and maintaining new ratings
• whether RiTT is a specific rating or an usual APP rating and whether ATCOs  work both TWR and APP
• whether the implementation is more of a technical, operational or processes adaptation
• How does the regulator see such a change
• Future of ATM in 5 years and in 50 years

In this episode, our guest comes from from Brussels, this is Benoit Fonck the Chief Programme Officer at SESAR JU. The topic is to explain how smaller ATM suppliers can participate in SESAR. Among others, we touched on the following aspects:

• What is SESAR
• How is SESAR structured and what is the reporting hierarchy in this structure 
• Updates on current SESAR status and major directions currently covered by SESAR projects
• What has been good, what could be done differently, what are the challenges of the programme
• How can smaller ATM companies participate in SESAR research projects 
• What is the application procedure and how can smaller companies know when and where exactly to apply
• Advice to a small company wanting to contribute to SESAR
• SESAR in the next 5 years and in the next 50 years

Peter Sachs, Head of Airspace Integration, Zipline spoke with Claudia Bacco, Editor-in-Chief, Global Airspace Radar about the 10 year path that has helped Zipline evolve to where they are at today.

We discuss the market needs in two very different markets. The support of medical requirements via drone delivery in Africa and the delivery of food and household supplies in the US.

In order for this to be successful, UTM is a key component. Building on UTM functionality, we look at Remote ID, electronic conspicuity, detect-and-avoid and more. These technologies all get us closer to autonomy, which is required for this concept to scale to it's full potential.

The guest of this episode is Vanessa Rullier - Senior Manager ATM and Special Projects at European Business Aviation Association in Brussels. The topic discussed is the role of EBAA in ATM and  we touched the following aspects:

• why specifically is EBAA active in ATM
• EBAA activities related to the ATM 
• what works well and what works not so well in ATM
• differences between ATM in Europe and in the US
• specific needs of business aviation compared to commercial airlines in ATM
• ATM in five years from now and in 50 years from now

The guest of this episode is Niclas Gustavsson - Vice President Business Development & Governmental Affairs at SAAB Digital Air Traffic Solutions. The topic today is the remote towers in Sweden and touched the following aspects:

• developments at Swedish Mountain Airport and the new Remote Tower Centre in Stockholm
• lessons learned from remote tower projects 
• what could be done differently
• differences between building an airport with a remote tower from scratch and adding a remote tower to an existing airport
• remote towers - why now
• the role of new technologies and the human factor in regards to remote towers 
• how are partnerships between an ANSP and a tech company formed. New entrants to this field
• ATM /remote towers in five years from now and in 50 years from now

The guest of this episode is Xavier Pretat, the Head of Fatigue Risk Management at ENAC in Toulouse. We covered the following main points:

• the impact of fatigue on ATCOs and typical fatigue level
• how to manage fatigue and why there is a need for that
• what is fatigue management about: measuring and taking corrective measures or preventing it altogether
• how does COVID crisis impact on ATCOs fatigue
• links between fatigue in the cockpit and fatigue at the control sector
• changes in fatigue management in the next 5 years and in the next 50 years

The guest of this episode is Romain Hericher, the former Operational Strategy  Director at Dubai Airports in the United Arab Emirates. We covered the following main points:

• how is A-CDM  seen in the Middle-East
• How can A-CDM work outside of the EUROCONTROL area, or without a network manager
•  Is it easier to implement A-CDM at an airport like Dubai where there is only one dominant airline and one dominant ground handler
• Aspects of managing capacity at DXB which is open around the clock, even with an outbound peak during the night 
• Challenges related to A-CDM in the Middle East

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The guest of this episode is John van Hoogstraten, the Operations Director at Cyrrus. We  talked about the expertise of consulting companies and how they contribute to the ATM industry, as well as the following interesting aspects:

• role of consultancies and what do they bring to the table for the ATM industry
• life cycle of a consulting project and the interaction between the players involved 
• view on neutrality and independence of consultancy companies
• aspects of working different roles in operations, operational management and consulting and lessons learned thereafter

The guest of this episode is Jochen Bauer, the Director Sales & Marketing at Guntermann & Drunck. We talked about KVMs and how they are solving user challenges in the ATM industry.

• What are the roles and advantages of KVM switches and extenders in ATC
• Are there features that are specific to ATM
• Does G&D develop specific products on request 
• Are there ATM features that later got used by non-ATM customers and vice-versa (i.e. features from other industries coming to ATM)
• What is the future of KVM switching 

The guest of this episode is Robert Koster, the founder of AerLabs. We looked into the topic of aircraft and drone noise as well as a few other related aspects:

• Impact of aircraft noise (and emissions in general) on aviation, airports, air routes
• Current picture globally and in Europe in regards to noise. Where is it the noisiest
• How is noise measured
• Noise mitigation measures from airports and ANSPs
• Perceived noise versus real noise 
• View on the noise coming from drones
• How noise sensitivity could increase when traffic restarts

The guest of this episode is Axel Knutsen, the VP Unmanned Traffic Management at Avinor, the ANSP of Norway. We talked about the current developments regarding drones and UTM deployment in Norway. We will cover the following related topics:

• Who are the UTM players in Norway, who did develop and deploy the system
• What features does it provide to drone operators and to ATCOs
• Which other parts of the company are impacted
• How many flights get registered on a typical week or month and what is their nature 
• Do operators stick to their plans and how is this handled if they do not
• What are the next steps for the UTM program in Norway

Stephen Creamer, President & CEO, ATCA joins Claudia Bacco, Global Airspace Radar Editor-in-Chief to discuss changing times in the US National Airspace (NAS). The last year has brought a great deal of change within the NAS, and we dive into these topics. One key topic of discussion is the promise of BNATCS and the challenges to getting there.

The opportunities for modernisation of the US infrastructure are many. It will take time to phase in how to achieve this goal. Maybe a shore up of the existing infrastructure before introduction of altogether new technology? 

ATCA Connect 2026 is in a new location, with a new format this year. Learn more about the goals for the event and what you will gain by joining in March. Think about connecting all of the players in aviation.

Let's listen to the new entrants to our industry more, we could learn something that benefits all of us by considering their 'fresh look'.

In this episode, Katarzyna Zmudzinska meets Dr Gabriele Enea, Assistant Group Leader of Air Traffic Control and Weather Systems at MIT (The Massachusetts Institute of Technology) Lincoln Laboratory, for a discussion about disruptive weather and air traffic.

We get to know Gabriele’s story and hear about the most common types of disruptive weather events and how they impact operations. Gabriele explains what we can expect from the weather in the coming years and the ways in which its impacts can be mitigated.

From the episode, we learn about the different approaches taken in Europe and the USA to handling weather impacts, as well as some of the most exciting research projects currently underway at MIT.

Gabriele answers the standard questions and asks a surprise question of the host.

Simon Hocquard, President & CEO, CANSO shared his insights with Claudia Bacco, Editor-in-Chief, Global Airspace Radar. 2025 was the first year to have two events under this umbrella, the marquee Airspace World in Lisbon and the inaugural Asia Pacific event.

What did CANSO learn and how will it impact the 2026 events?

The main show in Lisbon and another new event focussing on the Middle East and Africa coming this fall with the opportunity for new themes, technology discussions and networking.

And don't miss the Seamless Skies Awards. All of this and more in this episode.

Marita Lintener and Vincent Lambercy debrief Airspace Asia Pacific, looking at the show under all angles:

• The venue in Hong Kong and the logistics
• The exhibitors, who was there and who was missing
• The theaters, topics, and programmes
• The attendance
• The feedback from exhibitors

Listen to know how they perceived the three days of Airspace discussions and exhibitions in Hong Kong, learn more about the latest trends and the future of ATM and UTM in the region.

Guy Laor, Vice President Operations and Strategy, Airwayz joined our editor-in-chief Claudia Bacco to discuss the achievements of the Israel National Drone Initiative (INDI) to date and the path forward. Airwayz has recently announced their role as the central orchestrator for phase 3 of the initiative.

Prior to joining Airwayz, Guy actually worked at INDI focussing on UTM, UAS, and urban air mobility projects. He is an operations and airspace expert with a long background in both military and civilian aviation beginning his career as an Air Traffic Controller in the Israeli Air Force - where he still serves in reserve.

Join the discussion to understand how this initiative is helping Israel to progress it's nationwide programmes and identify learnings that can be leveraged not only in this country but others working on these same topics.

Moodie Cheikh, CEO and founder of Searidge Technologies discuss the company latest projects in Doha and how a hybrid digital tower allows air traffic controllers manage new parts of the airport where direct visibility is restricted.

The discussion also covers wider topics:

• the company's history, as it approaches its 20th anniversary
• factors behind a success in different contexts, like the Middle East, North America, UK, Hong Kong, and Singapore
• how software platforms should be the standard and what Searidge's Chorus platform allows
• Moodie's view on interoperability, and a honest and optimistic opinion about what the industry should do next
• the integration of artificial intelligence in air traffic control

For this very technical episode, we revisit our previous signature question about the future of ATM in 5 and 50 years - before asking the new one too.

Smugglers use balloons to illegally carry cigarettes form Belarus to Lithuania and those balloons disturb the traffic at Vilnius airport! Vincent Lambercy discusses this with Saulius Batavicius, the CEO of Lithuanian ANSP Oro navigacija. Is this only smuggling or is there more behind that?

Saulius also discusses how the ANSP works in the Borealis alliance and also with iTEC for the technical side. He explaines how to improve ATCO mobility and get other benefits from such international collaborations.

Finally, Saulius shares his views on how technology and humans work together today and how this could change in the future.

In today's episode Kasia Żmudzińska meets two guests from Airways International: Philipp Zeitel, Training Quality Manager and Jonny Cooke, Head of Products. 

A 95% success rate in Air Traffic Control (ATCO) training in New Zealand, was an inspiration for recording this episode. It is a really high number and it raises the question: what is behind such outstanding result?

Jonny and Philipp share their views on how to make the selection process attractive, available and light for a wide pool of potential ATCO candidates, what are the steps of the recruitment process and what makes Airways' approach to Assessment Centres worth the investment. 

The guests also share insights into the key skills and personal traits that define a successful air traffic controller, and whether these abilities can be consciously developed and practiced.

If you are interested in Air Traffic Control (ATC) and want to learn more about what makes a selection process successful, don't miss this episode!

Nicki Harricharan - Operations Programme Manager, CANSO talks with Global Airspace Radar, Editor-in-Chief Claudia Bacco about the importance of operations and safety being an integrated effort within our industry.

This topic spans beyond traditional air navigation service provider (ANSP) activities related to air traffic management and unmanned traffic management integration. Today the presence of drones is increasing along with the introduction of advanced air mobility, high altitude operations and space traffic. The conversation considers the implications of this shift in traffic and concepts to ensure safety remains the top priority as this evolution occurs.

There's also a look toward the upcoming Airspace World, 26 - 28 May in Lisbon. 

Günter Graf, Vice President New Business Development & Innovation, Frequentis and Ralf Irmer, Head of Vodafone Tech Innovation Centre, Dresden joined Claudia Bacco, Global Airspace Radar Editor-in-chief to discuss the role of 5G and drones can play in enhancing public safety. 

The two companies have already been working together for quite a while across public safety topics and the use of Mission Critical Services (MCX). Mobile Network Operators (MNOs) continue to play a larger role in providing connectivity and communication for drones. 

Both organisations share their work in the ADELE project - Automated drone deployment from the control centre. The project tested the use of drones in a real operational environment with the Rostock fire department, reinforcing how emergency services teams can benefit from the introduction of drones to their first responder teams.

Listen to the discussion and we hope you'll come away with some new ideas for the use of drones.

Alex Bristol and Peter Merz are Vincent Lambercy's guests for this special episode about the CEO transition at Swiss ANSP skyguide. Alex will leave the company after eight years and three months as CEO and Peter will formally take-over in November 2025. Peter is the ex chief of the Swiss Air Force and used to be a user of skyguide's services.

Alex reflects on his time at skyguide and how the company evolved under his leadership, and also on some hard times, including the COVID crisis and a technical issue forcing to "clear the sky" for a few hours.

Peter speaks about his career as a military pilot, squadron, and base leader, as well as in the Air Force's leadership. He explains why he decided to be a candidate and now how the transition runs.

Today Kasia Żmudzińska meets Karolina Frisk - Group HR Manager at Entry Point North to explore the topic of managing generational differences in the context of training and working with aviation professionals and students.  

Entry Point North has a new course in its offering - Human Factors: Navigating Generational Differences. Karolina explains the findings of the student resilience study and its generational aspects that inspired the development of this training. We learn how training organisations can apply these insights to enhance their performance.

This episode offers a deep dive into the topic of generational differences - where they come from, how they show up in training environments and how to make the best out of this knowledge. For example, it can help us better attract younger candidates to Air Traffic Controller roles.

If you are curious about what the student resilience study has revealed and what it tells us about the younger generation, this episode is a must! 

Monica Paolini, Principal, Senza Fili Consulting joined our editor-in-chief Claudia Bacco to discuss telecommunications supporting drones. A twist is mentioned in the title and the twist is the view from China. Having just returned from a trip to China, Monica shares insights from visiting China Telecom including their drone program. The twist goes further in that the telecommunications company is leading the effort to test drone flights as opposed to the regional air traffic control organisation being in the lead. Certainly different than what we're seeing in Europe and the US.

We also dug deeper into the use of spectrum and the mobile infrastructure in this endeavour, what can be re-used, what needs to be changed/enhanced. Join us in the discussion which leans more toward the telecommunication part of the equation.

Monica Paolini, PhD, is the founder and principal of Senza Fili. She is an expert in wireless technologies and has helped clients worldwide to understand new technologies and customer requirements, create and assess financial models, evaluate business plan opportunities, market their services and products, and estimate the market size and revenue opportunity of new and established wireless technologies.

Drone sandboxes are a way to bridge the gap between regulation and reality, allowing for testing in safe ways. On this episode, Vincent Lambercy discusses with Antoine Martin. Antoine serves as "Advanced ATM Officer" with the French Directorate of General Civil Aviation and has been with the french ANSP DSNA before.

We discuss the status of the current drone regulations in Europe, how the French CAA facilitates testing for drone operations, Beyond Visual Line of Sight (BVLOS) flights, and more.

Why are sandboxes useful, and even needed, and how they will evolve in the future? How is the gap between the regulation and the standards, and what is missing for routine BVLOS flights?

We discuss this and more, and Antoine's question is to Florian Guillermet.

What are the leadership skills for a career in aviation? What is the market like for senior positions in air traffic management, what are the regional differences and requirements? Are your qualifications and skills already future-proof?

Arpad Szakal is Marita Lintener's guest on this episode. Arpad is Partner Aviation, Transportation and Infrastructure at CORMIS PARTNERS SEARCH & INTERIM MANAGEMENT, specialising in senior level positions. Marita and Arpad discuss the essential skills for the future, the challenging economic context for C-Suite executives, cross-sector demand for the best leaders and how diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives are evolving in the current socio-political framework.

Hear first-hand how to prepare for a headhunter call, gain actionable recommendations on how to accelerate your professional journey from a junior position, the importance of sponsorship and many more insights for a successful career.

How does EUROCONTROL help stakeholders making aviation more sustainable? How is the agency in a unique position to provide guidance and advice, but also tools and measurements that ANSPs, airlines, and airports can use to become more sustainable?

Marylin Bastin is Vincent Lambercy's guest on this episode and they explore all facets of what EUROCONTROL does to make aviation more sustainable. Marylin brings the debate beyond usual topics like free route and continuous descent operations. We discuss how a lot of the sustainability question actually find its roots in the energy discussion but also how getting funding for the transition will be critical.

EUROCONTROL's Flying Green portal is mentioned a couple of times in the episode and can be found at https://flying-green.eurocontrol.int/ and the Global Airspace Radar article about it can be found at https://globalairspaceradar.com/stories/navigating-towards-sustainable-aviation-eurocontrol-flyinggreen/

In this episode, Kasia Żmudzińska meets Lea Trampitsch-Vink, Human Performance Lead at Austro Control, to discuss the future of humans in aviation. 

Lea tells the story of her remarkable journey — from serving as a navigator and warship commander in the New Zealand Navy, chasing pirates off the coast of Africa, to her current leadership role at Austro Control.

She shares her views and ideas on how to get more performance out of today's aviation workforce at times of increasing demand, without causing burnout, how to make the European ATM Master Plan work from a human factors perspective, where the limits of automation development lie, and much more! 

If you’re curious about human factors and performance in aviation, and want to hear insights from an expert with first-hand operational experience, this episode is for you!

Karl Wannenmacher, CTO, Frequentis, speaks with our editor-in-chief Claudia Bacco about all things technology. 

Starting with highlights of the current focus of his organisation - Service-oriented architecture (SoA), cybersecurity internally and throughout the entire supply chain, and artificial intelligence (AI).

What about the ANSP view? ANSPs are challenged to achieve a fully automated air traffic management (ATM) infrastructure within the next 20 years. The path to achieve this goal is supported by the SESAR ATM MasterPlan and the CATS CONOPS. Other industries, such as public safety where Karl's prior focus was, have already started implementation of topics such as SoA 10 years ago. So how does ATM get there?

We took a look at the definitions of SoA, how to implement it, what infrastructure is needed. What ANSPs - Skyguide and DFS - provide good examples of current progress, while being open about their challenges. Also addressed, the readiness of infrastructure vendors and the opportunity to leverage lessons learned and solutions from the wider tech industry.

In addition, a bit about quantum computing and blockchain.

Our editor-in-chief, Claudia Bacco had the opportunity to speak with Youzec Kurp, Vice President, Airspace Mobility Solutions at Thales to better understand the current status of unmanned traffic management (UTM) and how we progress this topic as an industry. 

The conversation touched on a great deal of material along the spectrum of UTM. Starting off with a basic question: is it an application or an ecosystem? Some of the key areas that are needed to progress the growth of drones include BVLOS and ATM integration. From a BVLOS perspective the podcast considers the challenges facing the full implementation of BVLOS and potential lessons learned from years of BVLOS flights in military aviation. UTM cannot remain an adjacent tool to the ATM infrastructure and needs to be integrated. Where are we with getting to a seamless integrated system of systems for ANSPs to use?

Agility, innovation and fresh thinking from startups in the world of drones can add opportunities for the future. What does Thales think about startups playing a role in future UTM solutions? The company not only works with the civil/military aviation community, but also critical infrastructure organisations. How is this different? And last but not least, who is responsible for drone surveillance?

Thomas Neubauer, CEO of Dimetor discusses with Vincent Lambercy about the latest progresses in drone detection technology. This episode covers various technologies that can be used but also Dimetor speciality: extracting intelligence from telecom data.

When drones are controlled using 5G networks, simple RF-scanners can't detect them anymore. Identifying drone-related traffic in the flow of 5G data is possible using artificial intelligence and seeing the network as a sensor.

An interesting second use case is detecting GNSS jamming and spoofing, which is also a growing concern for aviation.

In this episode, Marita Lintener sits down with Laurent Renou, Head of EUROCONTROL Innovation Hub, to uncover the ambitious new strategy. Listen to the insights about the tangible returns organisations are seeing from hub partnerships, and the hub's pivotal role in the European SESAR programme.
Laurent shares surprising insights about the skills that actually matter in aviation innovation today and explains why professionals at every career stage should be paying attention to opportunities at the forefront of European air traffic management transformation. They also discuss what's really happening in the global talent war.

Have you heard about the Israeli Done Initiative (INDI)?  Maybe not, but now you have a chance to learn more.

Claudia Bacco met with Dror Ben-David - Israel Drone Initiative (INDI) subject matter expert, Libby Bahat - Head, Aerial Infrastructure Department, Civil Aviation Authority of Israel and Ami Weisz - Chief Engineer, Manager, Aircraft Certification Department, Airworthiness Division, Civil Aviation Authority of Israel to better understand the work they've accomplished to date and looking ahead for the future.

The first thing to note is that Israel has a lot of flying under their belts and this seems to not be a well promoted topic. There were also many surprising discoveries during the discussion:

• The CAA of Israel works with aircraft developers to identify airworthy challenges and work together to resolve for success
• Funding is available to work within the INDI programme in a collaborative manner with 60% of the costs of the work during this time funded
• How Israel is currently implementing U-space, it's a bit different
• What is the real need behind BVLOS?

You need to listen to hear the answers.

Philip Butterworth-Hayes, Editorial Director, Unmanned Airspace shares the latest findings from their Global AAM/UAM Market Map reports with Claudia Bacco. Learn more about the latest research findings in North America and Europe about these topics. Key takeaways include:

- Implications of the recent USA Executive Order

- Who's winning the race to market

- What challenges still remain

- Regulation vs a sound business model - a chicken and the egg discussion

- What don't we know yet

The list could go on with more key topics, these are just the top five. Listen to hear the detailed discussion and reach out if you have questions you'd like answers to. Please join the discussion!

Intersoft Electronics was created in 1983 and started with radar quality monitoring. The company then expanded its offerings with signal processors, and continued its expansion with navigation equipment measurement and validation tools.

One of its flagship products is the SkyRF drone, used to shorten ILS, VOR and PAPI calibration, developed together with skyguide.

In this episode, Darren Gillam discusses how Intersoft APAC supports their customers with their specific challenges, taking into account cultural and local aspects, always working in building long lasting relationships.

In this episode, Ourania “Rania” Georgoutsakou, Managing Director of A4E European airlines association sits with Marita Lintener. They discuss the summer 2025 traffic peak and how A4E would measure “success” after the season from an industry and passenger perspective. Rania explains the airline's view on the revision of regulation EU261 on passenger rights and how they see the interdependencies with the delay situation. They discuss the lessons learnt of Rania after two years in the airline industry coming from the tech sector, what makes the airline business so special and much more.  

The must-listen episode in summer 2025 for all stakeholders.

In this episode, Alain Siebert, Chief Technology and Strategy of the SESAR Joint Undertaking (SJU) discusses the ATM Master Plan 2025 with Marita Lintener. Alain is sharing his surprises during the campaign journey and what is actually new in 2025. Together they have deep dives into the key elements of this edition which include the implications of the security context in Europe, environmental redesign of ATM and flight procedures, and why this is the most deployment oriented version ever.  Listen to the success factors for implementation, the required economic and technological regulations, what are the interdependencies with RP5, the role of the human and future of staffing and how the Master Plan is linked with the developments in the traffic growth regions of the world.

On this episode, Simon Hocquard, Director General of CANSO looks back at Airspace World 2025 with Claudia Bacco. They discuss how the event was and also the future with two new Airspace World events coming, in Hong Kong and Abu Dhabi.

They also discuss the future of the workforce in the industry, the CATS CONOPS, Advanced Air Mobility readiness in Asia and much more.

This episode with Dale Drake, Director ATC Sales at UFA explores their latest product: ATTranscribe, which can be used to facilitate voice transcription in the context of incident investigation.

We dig deeper in how voice recognition can be used in ATC and discuss how ATTranscribe is UFA's first step out of simulation.