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In this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with one of Australia’s most fearless, funny and enduring voices - Kathy Lette.With more than 20 bestselling novels and a career spanning five decades, Lette has built a legacy out of saying the things women are often told not to say out loud - and making us laugh while she does it.In this conversation, Kathy unpacks the realities of modern womanhood - from the politics of ageing and the persistence of sexism, to the power of female friendship and the truth about love, marriage and divorce.She also opens up about her latest book The Sisterhood Rules, which explores the intensity of female relationships - including loyalty, betrayal, and why the friendships we build can be the most enduring relationships of our lives.This is a conversation about finding your voice, owning your power, and why life - and confidence - only gets better with age.In this episode, we cover:

• Why Kathy believes ageist sexism is the next big battle for women
• The moment she was told “no one wants to read about middle-aged women” - and how she proved them wrong
• Why women come into their power after 50 (and the “I’ll feck it” effect)
• The truth about marriage, divorce, and starting again
• Why female friendship can be life-saving - and sometimes devastating
• The inspiration behind The Sisterhood Rules
• The “pleasure gap” - and why equality still hasn’t made it into the bedroom
• Why humour is one of the most powerful tools women have

As Kathy tells us, never wait to be rescued. Build a life - and a sisterhood - that sustains you. Follow You’re Gonna Want To Hear This so you never miss an episode.

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Could you survive a volcanic eruption? It's a question Stephanie Browitt never thought she'd have to answer. And yet in 2019, a volcanic eruption on New Zealand’s White Island changed Stephanie's life forever. At just 23, she suffered burns to 70 per cent of her body and lost her younger sister, Krystal, and her father, Paul, in the tragedy. Seven years later, she's written a book about it. Out Of The Ashes has just been published, co-written with her mother Marie. In this episode of marie claire's podcast You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Stephanie shares, in extraordinary detail, what it felt like to be caught in the eruption - the moment she heard the bang, the fight to stay conscious, and the thought that kept her alive - getting back to her mum.What you'll hear is a deeply moving conversation about survival, grief, and recovery. Stephanie speaks openly about the physical and emotional toll of her injuries, the long road back, and the moment she had to relearn how to see love again. Today, she is an advocate for body positivity and resilience, using her story to challenge perceptions of beauty, strength, and what it means to rebuild a life after unimaginable loss. This episode is confronting, powerful, and ultimately, a story about love.In this episode, we discuss:

• The moment the White Island volcano erupted
• The fight to stay conscious and survive
• The loss of Stephanie’s father and sister
• The role of her mother in her survival and recovery
• The realities of burn recovery and rehabilitation
• Body image, identity, and learning to live with scars
• Grief, resilience, and rebuilding a life

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Content warning: This episode contains mature and confronting themes, including domestic and family violence, coercive control, and online abuse. Listener discretion is advised. Support links are listed below.

We’re releasing this episode now because while the holidays are meant to be joyful, they are consistently one of the most dangerous times of year for domestic and family violence. These conversations matter most when they’re hardest to have which is why this isn't another polite panel on "women's issues".

Today's episode is a forensic, unflinching examination of coercive control, the Amber Heard trial, Julian Assange, and the ways legal systems, media, and online culture are increasingly weaponised against women.In this episode of You’re Going to Want to Hear This, journalist Jess Hill and human rights lawyer Jennifer Robinson come together for what can only be described as a dark feminist legal thriller - grounded in evidence, lived experience, and hard truth.Jess and Jennifer dismantle the tired “he said/she lied” narrative, interrogate the misogyny unleashed during the Amber Heard trial, and expose how defamation law, PR machines, bots, and online abuse are used to silence survivors - both globally and here in Australia.The insights are confronting.

“If we literally arrested every man engaging in domestic violence, we wouldn’t have the prison space - a criminal justice response is never going to be enough,” Jess says, as the conversation explores how coercive control laws, consent education, and culture collide.Jennifer explains why representing Julian Assange was less dangerous online than standing beside Amber Heard:
“I didn’t face the same kind of online threats representing Julian as I did representing a woman who spoke out about her abuse.”The episode also goes deep on:

• The Julian Assange press freedom case
• The UK judgment that found Amber Heard a victim of domestic and sexual violence
• How defamation law and domestic violence now intersect in Australia to keep survivors quiet

“Neither Johnny nor Amber will ever see what you wrote on social media,” Jennifer warns.
“But the women in your life who’ve never spoken about their abuse will - and that’s who you’re really talking to.”This episode is for you if you’ve ever searched “what is coercive control?”, looked up violence against women statistics in Australia, or wondered why survivors are tried twice - once in court, and once online.Thank you for listening 

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In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with beauty entrepreneur, author and Trinny London founder Trinny Woodall for one of the most candid and compelling conversations of the season.

At 60, Trinny says she feels “fucking amazing” - but getting here required reinvention, resilience and a willingness to dismantle everything she thought she needed. She opens up about selling her beloved Notting Hill home to fund Trinny London, parenting her daughter as a single mother, and the loneliness that shaped her as a young girl and still shadows her today.

Trinny reflects on the myths and pressures around “ageing gracefully”, why she believes visibility matters more than ever for women, and the beauty rules that actually make a difference - including the skincare approach that changed her life after years of battling acne.

Trinny and Georgie dive into:

• What ageing in her 60s really feels like
• Why she believes “ageing gracefully” is often code for becoming invisible
• The moment she realised she had to sell everything to build her business
• Navigating motherhood, grief and single parenting
• The skincare non-negotiables she wishes every woman knew
• Why failure taught her more than success ever could
• What she hopes every woman takes into her next decade

This is Trinny at her most open, funny, unfiltered and deeply wise - a reminder that reinvention doesn’t have an expiry date, and confidence can be learned at any age.

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Yesterday, the Federal Court dismissed Bruce Lehrmann’s appeal, upholding the ruling that found he had raped Brittany Higgins in 2019. Today, Brittany Higgins’ voice feels louder than ever.

In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Brittany sits down with editor Georgie McCourt for one of the most open and unguarded conversations she has ever had. She speaks about the trauma of being believed so rarely in a system built to doubt women, the female networks that held her together, the online abuse and deepfakes that threatened to break her, and the year in rural France that she says “saved [her] life.”

Brittany talks frankly about fear, fury, grief, exile, healing and hope - and asks the question Australia keeps avoiding: What kind of country are we, if this is the best we can do for survivors?

A powerful, essential episode on gendered violence, digital safety, rebuilding after trauma and the women who make a seat at the table for one another.

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An unlikely but perfect pairing, comedian Celeste Barber and supermodel Cindy Crawford sit down for a wildly entertaining, surprisingly raw conversation about reinvention, real bodies, and what confidence really looks like beyond the filters and the runway lights. Celebrating Marie Claire's 30th birthday in style at a unique parody cover shoot.

From viral parody queen to beauty founder, and from original ’90s supermodel to ageless icon, they unpack how to stop chasing perfection and start owning the skin you’re in at any age. This is body positivity, comedy, and celebrity storytelling rolled into one binge-worthy episode.​

You’ll hear Celeste’s take on why “how I look, and my body, is the least interesting thing about me” and why she’s done with the beauty industry’s “bullshit” rules around women’s bodies. Cindy shares what it’s really like to age in the spotlight, why she believes “aging is a privilege,” and how “age maintenance” is about feeling strong and present in your life—not trying to look 20 forever. Together they swap backstage stories, mum moments, and the small daily rituals that keep them grounded when the world is watching.

This is the ultimate self-acceptance conversation...with a sneak peak into Cindy Crawford's beautiful lounge room. Trust us 'You're Gonna Want To Hear This'

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In this eye-opening, juicy episode, Leslie Bibb candidly shares her experiences with “bad boyfriends” and the “big lessons” that shaped her personal growth. She dives deep into the imposter syndrome that “just won’t quit,”alongside Georgie McCourt revealing how she confronts self-doubt in both her personal and professional life. Leslie’s authenticity shines through as she reflects, “You have to learn to trust yourself, even when your mind tries to convince you otherwise.

If you’re interested in topics like overcoming imposter syndrome, relationship lessons, personal empowerment, and mental wellness, this episode is tailor-made for you. Tune in to hear Leslie Bibb’s inspiring journey and gain valuable insights on resilience, self-trust, and navigating life’s challenges with grace. Don’t miss this conversation packed with raw honesty and big takeaways that resonate with anyone striving for growth and confidence. Trust us you’re gonna want to hear this! 

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What a combination and creative minds! Step inside Marie Claire’s exclusive space for another candid conversation where fun and frankness takes centre stage. Australian icons Asher Keddie and Liane Moriarty dissect art, ambition, and the reality of writing and acting “complex, layered characters.”, Liane reveals: “I am really interested in when people are different than what they appear—I’m fascinated by behaving in one way, but… behind the scenes, struggling with that.” Giving insight into her incredible writing. 

From the set of Nine Perfect Strangers to the intimate details behind Offspring and Big Little Lies, these two trailblazers open up about creative collaboration, evolving ambition, and embracing the label “women’s fiction.” Liane ponders, “Should I, in fact, embrace women’s fiction because most of my readers are women, and I love doing these events, and it’s all women?” and what that means for women’s literature

Hear how “stories are so ripe to be explored on the screen,” why both women “dig and dig and dig until I can’t anymore,” and how the tension between comedy and drama defines their enduring success. Whether you're a storyteller, a reader, or simply “curious,” trust us you’re  gonna to want to hear this.”

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Melissa Leong knows what it means to start over—and in this powerful episode of brand new podcast ‘You’re Gonna Want To Hear This’, she tells OzHarvest founder Ronni Kahn exactly how she found the guts to rip up her life and begin again. From “listening to your gut” to learning that “discomfort breeds growth,” Melissa shares candid stories of moving to rural Tasmania, fighting imposter syndrome, and facing her sense of self-worth head-on.

Ronni and Melissa dive into what it really takes to reinvent yourself, discussing heartbreak, resilience, and the art of “being comfortable with being uncomfortable.” If you’ve ever wondered how to overcome fear and back yourself when life takes a sharp turn, this conversation will inspire you to “stand on your own, unadorned—and hold yourself.”

With heartfelt reflections on agency, aging, vulnerability, and kindness, Melissa reminds us: “You do not have to correct the narrative that exists or justify it in any way. Just by existing and living in your truth, you’ll be okay—and in the long run, everything will work out.” And Ronni’s message is something everyone needs to hear: “Kindness is free, and every single person would benefit from it.” 

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Jacinda Ardern (former New Zealand Prime minister and author of the gripping account 'A Different Kind Of Power') joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt for an intimate and inspiring conversation about leadership, empathy, and the challenge of balancing global responsibility with motherhood.

A new power of kindness and authenticity, leading with empathy. 

“I refuse to believe you cannot be both compassionate and strong,” Jacinda shares, echoing her hallmark approach to navigating tumultuous crises on the world stage. She recounts moments of self-doubt not as setbacks, but as signals to summon even greater courage in the service of others. “One of the criticisms I’ve faced over the years is that I’m not aggressive enough or assertive enough, or maybe somehow, because I’m empathetic, I’m weak. I totally rebel against that.”

Jacinda opens up about her time in office, reflecting on self-doubt, courage, and why kindness is one of the most powerful qualities a leader can have.

Together, they explore navigating crises, finding joy in the everyday, and raising the next generation with compassion and purpose.

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Who’s on your celebrity fantasy dinner party list? Marie Claire have got access to the biggest celebrities and fascinating favourite people you love.  With unique pairings, the type of conversations where fun and frankness is always in style. Trust us…you’re gonna want to hear this! 

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On an ordinary morning in a Sydney apartment building, Chloe and Christine - two neighbours who barely knew each other - were violently attacked by a stranger inside their own homes.Christine, a wellness therapist and yoga teacher, had just stepped into the shared laundry. Chloe, a photographer and mother of three, was working at her desk with her front door slightly open. Within minutes, both women were assaulted in separate random encounters by the same man - a dentist called Steven Lin from the Central Coast who has later shot dead by police. In this deeply confronting conversation, they share what happened, how they survived, and what recovery looks like just two weeks later. Their stories are raw, powerful, and ultimately grounded in resilience, instinct, and the unexpected strength that emerges in moments of crisis.

In this episode

• Two parallel attacks unfold inside the same apartment building
• The moment instinct takes over: fight, survival, and split-second decisions
• What trauma feels like in the immediate aftermath
• The emotional and physical road to recovery
• Community support, kindness, and unexpected connection
• The reality of women’s safety - even inside the home
• Where the system is falling short, and what needs to change

Support and resourcesIf this episode raises anything for you, support is available:

• 1800RESPECT (Australia)
• Lifeline – 13 11 14
• In an emergency, call 000

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In this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with writer and author Belle Burden for a conversation about love, loss - and what happens when your life changes overnight.

During the early days of Covid lockdown, Belle believed she was safe inside a happy, 20-year marriage. Then, within 24 hours, everything changed. A phone call from a stranger revealed her husband was having an affair. By the next morning, he had packed a bag, told her he wanted a divorce, and left. There was no warning. Just what he later described as “a switch” that had flipped.

In this raw and deeply honest conversation, Belle takes us inside that moment - and the aftermath that followed. From the shock of abandonment and the physical reality of heartbreak, to the patterns many women are now recognising in their own lives, this episode explores what it means to lose not just a partner, but the life you thought you were living.

Belle also speaks candidly about the financial lessons she learned, the expectations placed on women to stay quiet, and how writing her memoir Strangers became a way of reclaiming her voice.This is a conversation about devastation, but also about rebuilding. About identity. About resilience. And about the possibility that, even in the wake of something unimaginable, a new life can take shape.

In this episode, we cover:

• The moment Belle’s marriage ended - and what happened the night before
• The psychology of sudden abandonment and “runaway husbands”
• The physical and emotional impact of shock and heartbreak
• Why so many women are recognising themselves in this story
• The financial blind spots that can leave women vulnerable in long marriages
• Co-parenting, emotional detachment, and navigating life after divorce
• Rebuilding identity - and finding yourself again after everything changes

About Belle: Belle Burden is a writer and former lawyer. Her Modern Love essay for The New York Times was one of the most widely read columns of the year. Her memoir, Strangers, expands on that story - exploring marriage, betrayal, and the process of rebuilding a life from the ground up.

A note to listeners:This episode discusses themes of infidelity, divorce, and emotional distress. Please listen with care.

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What does it feel like to grow up knowing you don’t quite fit the system around you?
In this powerful episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, actors and advocates Georgie
Stone and Chloe Hayden sit down for an honest conversation about identity, difference and
the long journey to understanding yourself.

Both women know what it’s like to move through the world feeling “other.” For Stone, that
meant knowing she was a girl from a very young age, long before she had the language to
describe being transgender. For Hayden, it meant growing up autistic in a world that often
misunderstood - or outright misrepresented - neurodivergent people.
Together, they unpack what it means to finally find the words that explain your experience,
the labels that hurt and the ones that can help you understand yourself. They talk about
school, bullying, media representation, and how seeing characters who look like you - or
think like you - can change the trajectory of a young person’s life.
The conversation also explores the power and pressure of representation. Stone made history
as the first transgender actor to play a trans character in an Australian drama when she joined
Neighbours, while Hayden’s portrayal of Quinny in Heartbreak High has become a lifeline
for autistic viewers around the world.

Warm, funny and deeply thoughtful, this episode is about the courage it takes to be visible -
and the radical power of simply existing as yourself.

In this episode:

• Georgie Stone on knowing she was a girl from the age of two
• Chloe Hayden on growing up autistic and finally receiving a diagnosis
• Why labels can be empowering rather than limiting
• The impact of growing up without representation in media
• The characters that helped shape their identities (hello, Disney)
• Playing groundbreaking roles in Neighbours and Heartbreak High
• The pressure of representing entire communities
• Why simply existing proudly can be an act of protest
• The message they wish every young person could hear

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In this powerful and deeply personal episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie
claire editor Georgie McCourt speaks with Danielle Bensky - a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein’s
trafficking network - about grooming, silence, survival and the long road to reclaiming your
voice.

Before the headlines and court cases, Bensky was a 17-year-old ballerina in New York with
dreams of a career in dance. In this conversation, she reflects on how the intense culture of
ballet - with its pressure for perfection, body scrutiny and constant need for approval - created
vulnerabilities that Epstein later exploited.

Bensky shares how she was first introduced to Epstein while searching for ways to earn
money as a teenager, and how what began with conversation and flattery slowly became
manipulation, coercion and abuse. She also speaks candidly about the moment her mother’s
brain tumour diagnosis deepened Epstein’s control over her life.

But this episode is not only about what happened inside Epstein’s world. It’s also about what
came after: the years of silence, the trauma and dissociation that followed, and the healing
power of creativity, community and finally speaking the truth.

Today, Bensky is an advocate for survivors and accountability. In this moving conversation,
she explains why telling the story matters - not only for justice, but for the countless
survivors who still feel too ashamed or frightened to speak.

Her message is simple but powerful: you are not alone.

In this episode we discuss:

• Danielle Bensky’s life as a teenage ballerina in New York
• How grooming and manipulation often begin with trust and promises
• The culture of vulnerability within the dance world
• The moment Epstein used her mother’s illness as leverage
• Why so many people around Epstein remained silent
• Trauma, dissociation and the long path to healing
• How art and movement helped Bensky reconnect with her body
• The power of survivor communities Why speaking out can help break cycles of shame and silence

A note to listeners:
This episode contains discussion of sexual abuse, trafficking and trauma. Listener discretion
is advised.

Resources:
If this conversation raises difficult feelings for you, support is available.

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• Lifeline - 13 11 14

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Now before 2014, today’s guest, Dr Lucy Hone, was a resilience psychologist studying how people cope with stress, uncertainty and change. She was immersed in the science of flourishing, working with schools, organisations and emergency response teams – and basically, helping others navigate unwanted disruption. 

And then, on a bright morning in May 2014, her twelve-year-old daughter Abi was killed in a road accident. As a mother of an almost 12 year old daughter (and a 13 year old daughter), this feels excruciatingly heartbreaking to me. How do you actually get over something so unimaginably tragic? I honestly can’t imagine I ever could.  

In an instant, everything Lucy understood about resilience stopped being theoretical. She needed to find a way to live with what she describes as “the difference between where your life is, and where you thought it would be.” 

That experience reshaped her life - and her work. 

Today, Lucy is an internationally recognised resilience expert, bestselling author and the voice behind one of the most watched TED Talks of recent years, Three Secrets of Resilient People. Her new book 'How Will I Ever Get Through This?' has just been published. 

Lucy's message remains grounded and human: tough times are affected times are part of life - and with the right tools, we can all find our way through. Yes, we really can.  

In this episode, we talk about the myths of grief - including why the five stages don’t tell the whole story. We unpack why grief can be so physically exhausting. We explore intrusive rumination, post-traumatic growth, and bravery that looks like simply getting up and showing up again the next day.  

This is a conversation about loss. But it’s also a conversation about love, meaning and choosing life, even when it feels unbearable. 

We talk about: 

• Why most people are more resilient than they think
• The concept of oscillation - how you can live and grieve at the same time
• The difference between toxic positivity and pragmatic hope
• Post-traumatic growth (and why 60% of people experience it)
• The quiet bravery of getting up again tomorrow

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This week on You’re Gonna Want to Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Australia’s iconic Governor-General, Sam Mostyn, for a deeply personal conversation about power, purpose and the formula for a happy life.   When the Prime Minister called to ask whether she would accept the role, Mostyn had just 24 hours to decide - and couldn’t tell anyone. It was her daughter who cut through the noise with one simple question: Will it make you happy? In this episode, Sam opens up about: 

• Why so many women assume they won’t get the job - even when they’re more than qualified 
• The difference between determination and confidence 
• The early days of her legal career in Melbourne - including being told she couldn’t wear trousers to court 
• The equal pay arguments that shaped her leadership style 
• How to have difficult conversations without anger 
• Why “yes, and” can change the way you lead 
• The misogyny that still follows women in public life 
• Why care, kindness and listening are not soft skills - but strengths 
• And what happiness actually means when you’re holding one of the highest offices in the land 

From corporate boardrooms to national tragedy, from equal pay battles to representing Australia overseas, Mostyn reflects on what it takes to stay in the room and have hard conversations. This isn’t a political interview. It’s a conversation about service, resilience, partnership, ambition and the courage it takes to say yes before you feel ready.  Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. 
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In February 2014, Rosie Batty’s life changed “catastrophically and permanently” in a way most of us can barely comprehend. Her 11 year old son Luke was murdered by his father during what should have been a normal summer cricket practice. In the hours that followed, Rosie stood in front of cameras and, with extraordinary calm and clarity, gave voice to tens of thousands of victim survivors who had never been heard.

In this powerful episode of You’re Going To Want To Hear This, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Rosie more than a decade on. Together, they unpack the myths that still surround domestic and family violence, what coercive control really looks like, why “that moment after a woman might leave a violent relationship is often when she’s in the most danger", and how Rosie's own childhood loss shaped the way she navigated the unthinkable.

Rosie explains why domestic violence “happens to everybody, no matter how nice your house is or how intelligent you are”, and why we must let go of the idea that it only happens to “other kinds of women” in “other kinds of homes”. She talks through the reality of engineered abuse over many years, the way shame is still placed on the victim rather than the perpetrator, and the lifelong impact of trauma and PTSD.

This is not an easy listen, but it is an essential one – for anyone who has lived with fear, loved someone in danger, or wants to better understand the reality of family violence in Australia today.
If this episode brings anything up for you, please know you are not alone. In Australia, you can contact 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732  a confidential 24‑hour support service for people impacted by domestic, family and sexual violence

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On this week’s episode of Marie Claire’s You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, editor Georgie McCourt sits down with one of Australia’s most recognisable women - and hears her in a way we never have before. This is a show where fun and frankness is always in style. 

Fresh from her milestone 50th birthday and as the cover star of Marie Claire’s January issue, Megan Gale reflects on a life lived largely in public - and the private decisions she has fiercely protected along the way.

In a candid, deeply personal conversation, Megan opens up about what fame really feels like from the inside, the scrutiny and comparison that shaped her early self esteem, and why learning to care less about other people’s opinions has been one of the greatest gifts of ageing.

She revisits the 18-year-old who arrived in Sydney with big dreams, the Italian chapter that changed everything, and the surreal experience of walking runways alongside Naomi Campbell - before turning to where she’s landed now: clearer, calmer and more grounded than ever.

Then comes the revelation she has chosen to share exclusively with Marie Claire: Megan quietly married her partner Shaun Hampson in an intimate overseas ceremony - and kept it private for an entire year.

In the episode, Megan shares the details behind the decision, including:

Why she and Shaun chose to marry in Fiji at a place deeply meaningful to their family

How they planned an intimate ceremony with just their children and mothers present

The moment they told their families the night before the wedding

Why keeping the day private mattered after decades in the public eye

The joy of watching their children take part and why that made the ceremony feel complete

Megan also reflects on love, long-term partnership, motherhood, boundaries, perimenopause and communication, and why marriage didn’t need to change what already worked.

Warm, honest and powerful, this episode is a rare insight into the woman behind the icon.

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Maggie Walters has lived a life most people could barely comprehend.

Diagnosed in her twenties with Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder, Maggie came to understand that her mind had created different parts, or “alters”, to help her survive severe childhood trauma.

In her first book Split, Maggie shared the story of that trauma and introduced readers to “the girls”, the parts of her who protected her through experiences no child should ever have to endure.

Now, in her new book Fractured Motherhood, Maggie explores what came next: becoming a mother, adopting three children from the Philippines, and learning how to parent with love, courage and honesty while navigating DID, trauma and fear.

In this deeply powerful conversation, Maggie joins You’re Gonna Want To Hear This and tells Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt about what DID really is, why it is so misunderstood, how trauma shaped her childhood, and how motherhood helped her break a cycle of intergenerational harm.

This is not a story about being defined by trauma. It is a story about survival, hope, identity, parenting, and the extraordinary ways people find a path forward.

This episode covers:

* Maggie Walters’ diagnosis with Dissociative Identity Disorder / Multiple Personality Disorder

* What DID really feels like from the inside

* How childhood trauma can lead to dissociation

* Why Maggie calls her alters “the girls”

* Writing Split and Fractured Motherhood

* Adopting her three children from the Philippines

* The fear of passing trauma on to your children

* Mothering while navigating mental health challenges

* Breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma

* Why Maggie believes change and hope are always possible

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Maggie Walters’ new book Fractured Motherhood is out now.

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For more than a decade, journalist and activist Sherele Moody has been documenting the stories too often reduced to statistics - every known Australian woman and child killed by violence.

Through Australian Femicide Watch and the Red Heart Movement, her work has become a powerful, living record - one that ensures these lives are seen, named and never forgotten. But this isn’t just advocacy for Sherele, it’s very personal.

In this deeply confronting and essential conversation, Sherele joins You’re Gonna Want To Hear This to share the story that changed her life - the moment she discovered her stepfather was responsible for the murder of two young girls. A revelation that would go on to shape her life’s work.

From a childhood marked by abuse and instability, to building one of the most significant databases of violence against women in Australia, Sherele speaks with unflinching honesty about trauma, survival, and the cost of speaking out.

She also unpacks the systemic failures that continue to put women at risk - and why the question isn’t why women stay, but why it remains so difficult to leave.

This episode covers:

• The personal story behind Sherele’s activism
• The reality of femicide in Australia - and what the numbers miss
• Why domestic violence systems are failing women
• The emotional toll of documenting over 3,000 deaths
• How community, connection and action can drive change

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For decades, Lisa Wilkinson has been one of the most recognisable and trusted voices in Australian media - asking the questions, shaping the national conversation, and, at times, carrying the weight of the stories she tells. But in this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, she turns the lens inward.

Lisa joins Georgie McCourt for a candid conversation about what it really takes to build - and sustain - a career at the highest level. From backing her instincts early on (including taking a chance on a then-unknown Nicole Kidman), to walking away at pivotal moments, she reflects on the risks, reinventions and resilience that have defined her path.

She also opens up about motherhood, self-doubt, and the pressure many women carry - even at the height of success. At the centre of the conversation is her new book The Titanic Story of Evelyn  - a deeply researched work of historical non-fiction uncovering the story of Evelyn Marsden, the only Australian-born survivor of the Titanic. What began as curiosity quickly became something more personal - a story Lisa felt compelled to tell.

This is a conversation about instinct, evolution, and never standing still.

In this episode:

• Why Lisa says “none of it was guaranteed”
• The career risks that shaped her path
• The decision to step away - and what it taught he
• Motherhood, ambition and self-doubt
• The story of Evelyn Marsden - and why it stayed with her
• What it really means to keep evolving

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Paralympic gold medallist Alexa Leary joins us for one of the most raw and powerful conversations we’ve ever had. At just 19, Alexa was involved in a catastrophic cycling accident that left her with a severe traumatic brain injury. Doctors told her family she wouldn’t survive. She lost her memory, had to relearn how to walk and talk, and now describes herself as living a “second life.”In this episode, Alexa opens up about the reality of brain injury - the emotional highs and lows, the loss of friendships, the struggle to regulate her behaviour, and the daily challenges most people never see.She shares what it felt like to be told she might die, what recovery really looked like behind hospital doors, and how she went from ICU to standing on the Paralympic podium.We also talk about her new book Sink or Swim, why she’s chosen to tell her story so honestly, and the message she wants every woman to hear.This is a story about resilience, identity, and what it truly means to start again.

In this episode, we cover:

• The accident Alexa can’t remember - and the moment everything changed
• Being told she wouldn’t survive
• What it’s really like living with a traumatic brain injury
• Losing friendships and rebuilding relationships
• Emotional regulation, anger and recovery
• From hospital bed to Paralympic gold
• Why she says she’s living a “second life”
• The truth behind her memoir Sink or Swim
• Learning to love and accept herself again

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What actually gives women pleasure, and why are we still so bad at talking about it?

In this special Pleasure Issue episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron go inside the pages of the new issue, from the small joys that make life better to the bigger, messier conversations:

They unpack the orgasm gap, why women are still statistically being left behind when it comes to sexual satisfaction, dating after divorce, sex toys, long-term relationships, kissing, quitting friendships, hobbies that don’t make money, and the joy of yapping.

They also discuss Marie Claire’s May cover star Sarah Pidgeon, her role as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy in Ryan Murphy’s Love Story, the ongoing obsession with Carolyn and JFK Jr, and why Carolyn’s style, mystique and story still have such a hold on women.

This episode covers:

• Marie Claire Australia’s Pleasure Issue
• The orgasm gap and women’s sexual wellbeing
• Dating after divorce
• Sex toys, desire and long-term relationships
• Why kissing still matters
• Hobbies, friendship breakups and small pleasures
• Sarah Pidgeon as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy
• Ryan Murphy’s Love Story
• Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy and JFK Jr
• Fashion, beauty, dermaplaning and sex dreams
• Why women need to talk more openly about pleasure

The May issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Sarah Pidgeon, is on sale now.

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What does it take to sit across from one of the world’s most powerful men… and not flinch? In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Georgie McCourt sits down with legendary British broadcaster, journalist and author Emily Maitlis for a riveting conversation about career-defining interviews, the discipline of preparation, and why the best journalists never move on until they get an answer. 

From the now-iconic Prince Andrew interview to covering revolutions, elections and some of the biggest global stories of our time, Emily reveals what was really going through her mind inside Buckingham Palace, why she locked herself in a bathroom moments before that interview… and how years of being underestimated as a “silly little girl” became her greatest strength. 

She also opens up about motherhood in the public eye, the brutal early years of balancing young children with a high-pressure career, learning to lean into discomfort, and why women often become more powerful - - not less—as they get older. 

Plus, Emily shares the one piece of advice every woman needs to hear right now. 

In this episode, Emily shares: 

• Why great journalism is 80% preparation, 20% surrendering to chaos 

• The interview technique she swears by: “Don’t move on.” 

• What happened in the five minutes before the Prince Andrew interview 

• Why she never got angry sitting across from powerful men she believed weren’t telling the truth 

• How repetition, rejection and public mistakes built her confidence 

• The reality of raising children while living in the glare of public scrutiny 

• Why she feels more energised in her career now than ever before 

• Her next major investigation into the Epstein files 

• Her powerful message for women: “Choose your battles carefully… then fight for them.” 

If you’ve ever struggled to ask the hard question, back yourself in a room full of powerful people, or wondered whether your best years are still ahead of you - this episode is for you. 

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Emily Maitlis is the author of Airhead: The Imperfect Art of Making News and co-host of The News Agents. 

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What happens when one of Australia’s most recognisable wellness voices, bestselling I Quit Sugar author and TED Talk speaker Sarah Wilson, stops talking about sugar and starts talking about the collapse of civilisation?

This week, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with journalist, author and activist Sarah Wilson for one of the most provocative conversations You’re Gonna Want To Hear This has aired yet, landing as Sarah launches her powerful new book, I Eat the Stars.

For more than a decade, Sarah has been researching what she calls collapse: the unravelling of the systems we’ve built around endless growth, convenience and consumption. In this deeply personal, often wildly funny and at times confronting conversation, she shares why she’s “broken up with hope,” why letting go of hope brought her relief, and why, despite everything she believes is coming, she says she’s never been happier.

In this conversation, Sarah Wilson joins marie claire editor Georgie McCourt to talk collapse, climate anxiety, AI, tech bros, motherhood, pregnancy loss, Paris, midlife reinvention, hiking, nature, philosophy, critical thinking and what it means to stay human in uncertain times.

This episode covers:

• Why Sarah Wilson says “I’ve broken up with hope”
• What collapse actually means and why Sarah believes we’re already living through it
• Climate anxiety, burnout and how to live with uncertainty
• AI, tech bros and why Sarah says “the robots aren’t coming”
• Why young women should study philosophy, critical thinking and the humanities
• The question many women are asking right now: should I still have children?
• Why Sarah says the answer is “absolutely”
• Pregnancy loss, motherhood, grief and finding peace with a different path
• Moving to Paris before turning 50
• French men, midlife reinvention and starting again
• Hiking, nature, mental health and cathedral thinking
• Sarah Wilson’s new book, I Eat the Stars

Sarah Wilson’s new book I Eat the Stars is out now.

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Why do so many women wake up one day and feel like they want out? In this episode of You’re Gonna Want to Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with renowned psychoanalyst and bestselling author Stephen Grosz for a conversation about love, resentment, affairs, marriage, desire, emotional labour, and the complicated reality of trying to build a life with another person without losing yourself. 

After more than 40 years inside the consulting room, and more than 75,000 hours listening to people talk about heartbreak, betrayal, longing and intimacy, Stephen has come to believe that love is not simply something we fall into. It is something we work at. Often, that work begins at the exact moment relationships stop feeling easy. 

Together, Georgie and Stephen unpack why resentment can quietly poison even strong relationships, why contempt is often far more dangerous than anger, and why many people do not leave because they have stopped loving their partner, but because they no longer recognise themselves inside the relationship. 

They also talk about affairs and what people are really searching for when they step outside a marriage, the emotional complexity of long-term love, the impact children can have on intimacy and desire, and why some couples emerge stronger after betrayal while others cannot recover. 

Georgie opens up about her own experience with marriage counselling, co-parenting, and the small daily rituals that can soften even the hardest relationships. 

This episode covers: 

• Why love requires labour 

• The resentment that can destroy relationships 

• Why contempt is often more dangerous than anger 

• The real psychology behind affairs 

• How children can change intimacy and desire 

• Why people leave because they dislike who they have become 

• The power of appreciation inside long-term relationships 

• What happiness in love can really look like 
• The line from Stephen that Georgie says “quietly rearranged the furniture” in her brain 

Stephen Grosz is the author of The Examined Life and Love’s Labour. 

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Have you ever stood in a room wondering why you walked in, burst into tears over something small, or lain awake at 3am completely exhausted? You’re not going crazy, and you’re not “just busy”. It could be perimenopause.

Dr Mary Claire Haver is one of the world’s leading voices in women’s health: a board-certified OB-GYN, menopause specialist and #1 New York Times bestselling author whose books The Galveston Diet and The New Menopause sparked a global conversation about menopause, and whose appearances on The Diary of a CEO with Steven Bartlett and The Mel Robbins Podcast have reached tens of millions of women. Her new book, The New Perimenopause: An Evidence-Based Guide to Surviving the Zone of Chaos and Feeling Like Yourself Again, is the guidebook women have been desperately searching for.

This one gets personal. At 44, Georgie has been told by her own gynaecologist that she’s “just busy”, then handed an HRT script with no explanation of how to use it. Dr Haver explains why that dismissal is so common, what’s really happening inside the body during the hormonal “zone of chaos”, and why suffering through it is optional.

In this conversation, Dr Mary Claire Haver joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt to talk perimenopause symptoms, misdiagnosis, hormone therapy (HRT), brain fog, rage, weight gain, weight-loss drugs, osteoporosis, low libido, and the one message every woman needs to hear.

This episode covers:

• The perimenopause symptoms doctors dismiss: anxiety, rage, brain fog, insomnia, weight gain and low libido
• Why perimenopause can start in your mid-30s, 7 to 10 years before menopause
• How to tell the difference between depression, burnout, ADHD and hormone-driven changes
• Why so many women are misdiagnosed and prescribed antidepressants instead of hormone therapy
• Is HRT safe? The real benefits and risks of menopause hormone therapy
• Menopause and divorce: the viral “two camps” debate
• Why belly fat can double or triple in menopause, and why more cardio isn’t the answer
• Ozempic-style weight-loss drugs (GLP-1s), muscle loss and the “GPS” rule: GLP-1 + protein + strength training
• The osteoporosis statistic every woman needs to hear: 50% of women will have an osteoporotic fracture
• How vaginal oestrogen cuts recurrent UTIs (and sepsis) by 50%
• Low libido in perimenopause: the five causes of sexual dysfunction, and where testosterone fits in
• Dr Haver’s message: “Perimenopause is inevitable. Suffering is not.”

The New Perimenopause by Dr Mary Claire Haver is out now.

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses mental health challenges, including suicidal thoughts and ideation. If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 crisis support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au. Support is also available through Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 or at beyondblue.org.au. 

What if the person you're most afraid of becoming is yourself? 

Every month, writer Emma Hardy found herself trapped in a cycle of rage, despair, anxiety and emotional chaos. Then it would pass, and life would return to normal - until the cycle began again. 

In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Emma to discuss her debut memoir, Periodic Bitch: A Memoir of Menstruation, Madness and Monsters, a raw exploration of life with premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD). 

Together, they discuss PMDD, from uncontrollable anger and emotional outbursts to the relief and complexity of finally receiving a diagnosis. The conversation moves beyond the condition itself, examining how women's pain is misunderstood, dismissed or pathologised, and why conversations about female rage remain so uncomfortable. 

Emma also explores the surprising cultural influences behind the book, from horror stories and hysteria to medical research conducted on rats, and the question at the heart of Periodic Bitch: when is a mood just a mood, and when does it become an illness? 

In this episode: 

• What PMDD actually is, and why it's often mistaken for severe PMS 

• Emma's journey to diagnosis 

• Georgie's personal experience living with PMDD 

• The impact PMDD can have on relationships, careers and self-worth 

• Why female anger is so often labelled as madness 

• The link between PMDD, mental health and emotional regulation 

• Medical misogyny and the challenges women face when seeking treatment 

• Why PMDD remains under-researched and under-diagnosed 

• The fascinating stories of women whose crimes were linked to premenstrual disorders 

• How Emma learned to stop fearing her emotions and start understanding them 

This is a conversation about hormones, identity, rage, resilience and the stories women are told about their bodies. 

Buy the book: Periodic Bitch: A Memoir of Menstruation, Madness and Monsters by Emma Hardy. 

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What if the worst thing anyone ever said to you became the story that changed your life? 

This week, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with playwright, screenwriter and memoirist Lally Katz to talk about My Cursed Vagina, her brutally funny, wildly honest and unexpectedly moving memoir drawn from the past fifteen years of her life. 

Before the awards, theatre acclaim and Hollywood success, Lally was a woman searching for love in all the wrong places: emotionally unavailable men, disastrous dates, psychic readings, one-night stands, impulsive decisions and relationships that left her questioning whether something inside her was fundamentally broken. 

Then, during a snowstorm in New York, a psychic named Cookie told her she was cursed. According to Cookie, the problem was not just Lally’s love life. It was her vagina. 

What follows is a conversation that moves between laugh-out-loud absurdity and profound emotional honesty. Georgie and Lally unpack the stories women tell themselves about love, desirability, self-worth and the dangerous habit of mistaking longing for intimacy. 

In this conversation, Lally and Georgie talk about love, sex, shame, motherhood, creativity, heartbreak and the messy, humiliating, funny, deeply human things women do while trying to be chosen, understood and loved.   

This episode covers: 

• The psychic reading in New York that inspired My Cursed Vagina 

• Why women can mistake intensity, longing and obsession for love 

• The boyfriend who called Lally his “flatmate” for eighteen months and refused to give her a key 

• Chasing emotionally unavailable men across cities and continents 

• Tinder, one-night stands, dating chaos and romantic fantasy 

• Receiving a herpes diagnosis and deciding to talk openly about STI stigma 

• The advice that helped Lally stop wasting her childbearing years with the wrong person 

• Meeting the man who would become her husband and marrying him in Las Vegas three months later 

• Miscarriage, motherhood and wanting both creative fulfilment and family 

• Turning heartbreak into art and why writing everything down became a survival mechanism 

At its heart, My Cursed Vagina is not really about sex, psychics or even bad relationships. It is about the universal desire to be loved, the private stories women build around that longing, and what happens when a woman stops apologising for wanting everything: love, work, sex, art, adventure, children and purpose. 

If you have ever stayed too long, loved too hard, overanalysed a text message, mistaken pain for passion, or wondered whether everyone else has somehow figured relationships out before you, this episode will hit home. 

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My Cursed Vagina by Lally Katz is out now. 

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains themes of childhood abuse, physical punishment, sexual trauma and coercive control. If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 crisis support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au. Support is also available through Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 or at beyondblue.org.au. 

What if leaving your faith meant losing everyone you'd ever loved? 

This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with author Bek Condello about her extraordinary journey out of one of Australia's most controlling Pentecostal churches. 

Raised inside the Geelong Revival Centre, Bek grew up believing the outside world was dangerous. Every aspect of life, from education and friendships to marriage and work was dictated by church leaders. Curiosity was discouraged, obedience was demanded, and fear shaped almost every decision. 

In this deeply personal conversation, Bek reflects on the childhood she now recognises as abusive, the lasting impact of religious trauma and the heartbreaking reality that leaving meant losing her family, community and identity. 

She also opens up about purity culture, consent, body shame, marrying to escape one form of control only to enter another, and the years it took to trust herself and build a life on her own terms. 

Today, Bek has transformed unimaginable loss into purpose. As the state of Victoria investigates high-control religious groups, she explains why sharing her story has become about much more than personal healing... it's about helping others recognise coercion, reclaim their autonomy and know they're not alone. 

This episode covers: 

• Growing up inside the Geelong Revival Centre 

• How high-control religions shape identity 

• Religious trauma and childhood abuse 

• The psychological impact of fear-based faith 

• Purity culture, consent and bodily autonomy 

• Escaping a controlling church 

• Rebuilding life after leaving a cult 

• Learning to trust yourself again 

• Why leaving is a process, not a single moment 
• Bek's advocacy for survivors of coercive religious groups

Can You Handle a Girl Like Me? by Bek Condello is available from mid-July. 

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What happens when the search for answers becomes a dangerous obsession? 

Georgie sits down with journalist and author Hannah McElhinney to discuss her book Wormhole, the true story of her cousin Lauren.

Lauren spent much of her life battling debilitating symptoms and collecting diagnoses including chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia and POTS, while struggling to find meaningful answers from the healthcare system.

As her trust in traditional medicine eroded, she was drawn deeper into online communities promoting controversial and unproven treatments - including coffee enemas, bleach protocols, ozone therapy and hyperthermia treatment. 

At just 37 years old, Lauren travelled alone to Malaysia for an alternative treatment she hoped would finally make her well. She never came home. 

Hannah shares the heartbreaking story behind Lauren’s death, and the broader questions her story raises about health anxiety and the booming wellness industry. 

The conversation also explores Hannah’s own experiences with IBS, OCD and health anxiety, and how her personal journey informed her understanding of Lauren’s search for answers. 

This episode contains discussions of health conditions and unproven treatments, please see your doctor for medical advice.

This episode covers: 

• The true story behind Wormhole 

• Lauren’s decades-long battle with chronic illness 

• Why chronic illness can leave people vulnerable to misinformation 

• The rise of alternative medicine and wellness culture 

• The online communities that fuel medical distrust 

• The dangers of unregulated treatments and medical tourism 

• Chronic Lyme disease and the controversy surrounding the diagnosis 

• The intersection of health anxiety, OCD and chronic symptoms 

• Women’s experiences of being dismissed within healthcare systems 

• The fine line between hope, desperation and exploitation 

• How Hannah’s own health journey shaped her understanding of Lauren’s story 
• What Lauren’s life can teach us about trust, wellness and living fully 

Wormhole by Hannah McElhinney is available now. 

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When everyone else swam for shore, Charlie Verco paddled the other way: straight towards a great white shark. On a clear, busy Saturday morning at Coogee Beach in June 2026, the 25-year-old surf lifesaver and elite board paddler was training when a woman, Leah Stewart, was attacked just ahead of him. What he did next made headlines around the world.

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains detailed descriptions of a shark attack and serious injury that some listeners may find distressing.

Charlie grew up a North Bondi nipper and is now one of the country’s best ocean paddlers, the youngest ever winner of the Molokai to Oahu Paddleboard World Championships. In this conversation he walks Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt through the rescue minute by minute: reading the shark’s behaviour, the moment Leah was dragged under, towing her to shore one-armed when she lost consciousness, and the lifeguards and paramedics whose training saved her life on the sand.

It is a story about courage, but Charlie is uneasy with the word hero. He talks honestly about fear, adrenaline and imposter syndrome, how surf lifesaving and sport trained him to think under extreme stress, what a shark expert later told him, and why he is now urging two things: better shark safety on Australian beaches, and for people to donate blood.

In this conversation, Charlie Verco joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt to talk about the Coogee Beach shark attack, what it takes to act in a crisis, fear of the ocean, surf life saving, and why blood donation saves lives.

This episode covers:

• The Coogee Beach great white shark attack: what Charlie Verco saw on Saturday 13 June 2026
• Why he paddled towards the shark instead of swimming to safety
• What it is like to come face to face with a great white shark
• How surf lifesaving training and Ironman racing prepared him to act under extreme stress
• Towing an unconscious woman to shore one-armed on a paddleboard
• What a shark expert later told him about great white behaviour
• The beach response: tourniquets, lifeguards and the teamwork that saved a life
• Managing fear, adrenaline and the shakes after a traumatic rescue
• Going back into the ocean: how Charlie feels about the water now
• Shark safety in Australia: drones, detection and what he thinks needs to change
• On being called a hero, and the imposter syndrome that comes with it
• Why he is urging Australians to donate blood, especially O negative

If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.

In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support. To support the cause Charlie raises in this episode, you can donate blood through Australian Red Cross Lifeblood (O negative is especially needed in emergencies).

Donate blood (Australian Red Cross Lifeblood): https://www.lifeblood.com.au

Support Leah Stewart (family GoFundMe): https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-leah-stewart-victim-of-shark-attack-in-coogee

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There comes a point on Tradwife TikTok when the fantasy turns dark. The soft linen, the homemade bread and the children who never cry give way to something else: subservient wives, the manosphere, and a fight over who's allowed to be angry. 

Caro Claire Burke went looking, and wrote Yesteryear, the runaway-hit novel about an American tradwife influencer who wakes up in the brutal 1850s. This week, Marie Claire deputy editor Mel Gaudron interviews Caro about the book all your friends are arguing about. 

They cover why "tradwife" was a term invented by incels to describe a woman who doesn't exist, why culture adores unlikable men but punishes unlikable women, the Anne Hathaway film adaptation with Amazon MGM (Hathaway is set to play Natalie), writing about motherhood while seven months pregnant, and Caro's rallying cry: women disagreeing isn't catty and it isn't a failure. It might be exactly where we should be heading. 

Plus, editor Georgie McCourt on the country-life fantasy that gave her two miniature donkeys. 

Yesteryear by Caro Claire Burke is out now. Go deeper at https://www.marieclaire.com.au. 

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What if the person who was meant to protect you was the one you needed protection from? 

This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with world champion runner Jess Denham, who is telling her story publicly after years of being unable to do so. 

Raised in isolation and controlled by her parents, Jess appeared to be a sporting prodigy. But behind closed doors, she was enduring unimaginable abuse. Today, both of her parents are in prison for those crimes. 

In this deeply personal conversation, Jess also speaks publicly for the first time about living with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), sharing what it's really like to live with a condition that is so often misunderstood. 

This is a story of survival, resilience and reclaiming your voice after years of being silenced. Jess also shares why she's fighting for stronger protections for survivors and helping change the way Australia responds to sexual violence. 

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains themes of childhood abuse and coercive control. If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 crisis support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au. Support is also available through Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 or at beyondblue.org.au. 

This episode covers:  

• Growing up as a homeschooled child prodigy under total parental control 
• Living a hidden double life as a champion runner while surviving abuse 
• Isolation as a tool of abuse and why escape felt impossible
• Finding the courage to report abuse to police
• Living with dissociative identity disorder (DID) and dismantling the stigma around it
• How trauma shapes the brain and body in survival mode
• Rebuilding trust, identity and community after a lifetime of betrayal
• Healing through art and creative expression
• The fight against victim-blaming and sensationalized media reporting
• Advocating for stronger protection of survivors' counseling records
• A message of hope for survivors: "you're not your worst chapter" 

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What if the most dangerous moment in an abusive relationship isn't staying, it's trying to leave?  

As Australia continues to grapple with the national crisis of domestic violence and violence against women, this week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with Nicole Yade, CEO of the Women and Girls Emergency Centre, whose own experience surviving family violence and coercive control has shaped decades of frontline advocacy for women and children escaping abuse. 

Before Nicole dedicated her life to helping others find safety, she was a child growing up in a home ruled by fear. As an adult, despite promising herself she'd never repeat the cycle, she found herself in an abusive relationship of her own. At 24, she fled with her five-month-old baby, leaving behind violence and stepping into homelessness because staying was no longer safe. 

In this deeply personal conversation, Nicole shares why leaving an abusive relationship is far more complicated than people often believe. She unpacks domestic violence nd the invisible barriers that keep women trapped, while drawing on decades of experience supporting victim-survivors on the frontline. 

This is a conversation about survival, resilience and rebuilding a life after trauma. Nicole also explains why domestic violence services are at breaking point and what needs to change to better protect women and children.  

If you or anyone else you know is experiencing domestic, family or sexual violence, support is available. You can call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 

JOIN THE WALK TO END VIOLENCE. Walk for WAGEC details here, Centennial Park Sydney, Sunday 13th September 2026.  

This episode covers:

• Growing up in a home shaped by domestic violence 
• Why leaving an abusive relationship is far more complex than people realise
• Coercive control and the invisible tactics that keep women trapped
• Breaking the cycle of family violence across generations
• Escaping abuse as a 24-year-old with a five-month-old baby and experiencing homelessness
• The realities of rebuilding life after domestic violence
• How children are impacted by living with family violence
• The critical work of the Women and Girls Emergency Centre (WAGEC)
• Why frontline domestic violence services remain overwhelmed
• What recovery and healing really look like after trauma
• Why domestic violence can happen to anyone
• The role men can play in preventing violence against women
• Challenging the question, "Why doesn't she just leave?"
• A message of hope for victim-survivors rebuilding their lives 

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Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to designer Bianca Spender about how she protects her creative energy while running an 18-year-old Australian luxury label: splitting her days into “creative time” and “business time,” and why her most productive hours are between 5pm and 2am, once the emails stop. 

Bianca describes the Bianca Spender aesthetic in her own words: clothes built around freedom and movement, designed to make women feel completely themselves, or better yet, want to dance. She also shares why she kept two skin cancer diagnoses private for years, and why launching her first swimwear collection and sun care campaign felt like the right moment to speak about it publicly, including how two separate conversations with friends led her to catch both cancers early. 

In the second half of this episode, Bianca reflects on some of the most defining moments of her life: the sudden and very public loss of her mother, and the loss of her father eighteen months later. She talks about the advice on grief that has stayed with her since: “it never leaves, it just visits less frequently,” and how grief reshaped her sense of courage and self-forgiveness. She closes with how she protects her time through boundaries with technology, her “swimming epiphanies,” and a final message for anyone listening: trust yourself. 

This episode covers: 

• Protecting her creative energy by separating “creative days” from “business days” 

• Why her most creative hours are 5pm to 2am, once the world switches off 

• The Bianca Spender aesthetic: designing clothes meant to free the body and “make you dance” 

• Going public with two skin cancer diagnoses after years of privacy 

• Launching her first swimwear collection and sun care campaign 

• Navigating the sudden, very public loss of her mother 

• Living with grief as an ongoing companion: “it never leaves, it just visits less frequently” 

• Finding courage and self-forgiveness in the wake of loss 

• Protecting her time with boundaries around technology 

• Her “swimming epiphanies” and other ways she switches off 

• A closing message to trust yourself 

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What does it take to earn your place in one of Australia's most famous fashion families? 

This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with designer Bianca Spender to talk about growing up as the daughter of fashion icon Carla Zampatti. Bianca takes us back to her childhood: sharing a bedroom with her sister, now-federal MP Allegra Spender, the strip of masking tape that kept the peace between them, and discovering, decades later, that dyslexia ran through three generations of her family. 

She reflects on the lessons learned at the “School of Mum”: working in the family business from age nine, learning to say yes to everything, and what she only came to understand about her mother's leadership after becoming a parent and business owner herself. Bianca is candid about mum guilt, treating the business as her “first child,” and the four years she spent working in Paris, deliberately choosing a place where nobody knew her mother's name, so she could prove her own worth. 

She also opens up about the strict terms under which she finally joined the family label: one season, three months, twenty pieces, and an agreement that she would leave if the collection failed to sell. It's the story of how “the market decides” became the clearest and kindest way for Bianca to earn her own place, separate from her mother's approval, and how that same conviction led her to launch her namesake label. 

Part two continues the conversation with Bianca's creative process, her aesthetic, two skin cancer diagnoses, the loss of her mother, and what she's learned about living with grief - it's live right now in your podcast app!

This episode covers: 

• Sharing a room with her sister, now-federal MP Allegra Spender, and the masking tape down the middle 

• Discovering dyslexia ran through three generations of her family 

• Working in the family business from age nine instead of watching TV 

• What she only understood about her mother after becoming a parent herself 

• Wrestling with mum guilt, and treating the business as her “first child” 

• Moving to Paris for four years to prove her worth entirely outside her mother's name 

• Earning her place in the family label through a strict “market decides” trial 

• The moment her own namesake label found its own space 

• Finding the confidence to trust her own aesthetic, even when it meant disagreeing with her mother 

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What happens after the worst day of your life? 

This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia editor Georgie McCourt speaks with bestselling Australian author Hannah Richell, whose powerful new memoir, An Ocean and a Day, revisits the sudden death of her husband, Matt Richell, and the journey that followed. After years of writing acclaimed novels, Hannah is telling her own story for the first time. 

In 2014, Matt drowned in a surfing accident at Sydney's Tamarama Beach, leaving Hannah widowed with two young children. For years, she focused on raising her family, continuing her writing career, and rebuilding a life that had been shattered. But privately, she was also documenting the reality of grief as she lived it. 

Now, twelve years later, those pages have become An Ocean and a Day. In this deeply personal conversation, Hannah shares why she waited so long to write this memoir, what it was like to revisit the darkest chapter of her life, and how she's learned that moving forward doesn't mean leaving grief (or love) behind. 

If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 crisis support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au. Support is also available through Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 or at beyondblue.org.au. 

This episode covers:

• The moment two police officers arrived at Hannah's door to tell her Matt had died in a surfing accident
• Breaking the news to her young children and the hardest day of her life
• Writing her first pages of grief just seven days after Matt's death
• Falling in love with Matt after he "stole" her job in London, in the shadow of 9/11
• The isolating, shame-tinged early days of widowhood and single parenthood
• Living with unbearable yearning and rebuilding a sense of normalcy for her kids
• Returning to Tamarama Beach to piece together what happened, and meeting the fisherman who witnessed it
• The freak accident that took Matt's life, explained in full
• What her children have taught her about grief, laughter, and resilience
• Leaving their Sydney home two years on, and her son's words while scattering Matt's ashes: "Daddy, be free"
• Navigating loneliness, dating, and desire again after loss
• Finding new love and remarrying, and blending two families
• Her reflections on acceptance, carrying grief as an honor, and the message she hopes readers take from her memoir: love stays, even after loss

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What does it mean to define yourself when so much of your life has been shaped by other people's expectations?  

This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by actress Adrianne Palicki for an intimate conversation about growing up in Hollywood, finding your voice, and the women she's played who have stayed with audiences long after the cameras stopped rolling. 

Nearly 20 years after Friday Night Lights first premiered, Adrianne reflects on the enduring legacy of Tyra Collette, a character who spent much of the series being underestimated and defined by others, before finally choosing to imagine a different future for herself. As the show celebrates its anniversary, Adrianne talks about reconnecting with the cast and fans, why Tyra's famous college essay still resonates with her, and the extraordinary messages she's received from women whose lives were changed by the character. 

She also opens up about navigating Hollywood as a woman, from being judged by appearances and underestimated early in her career, to the pressure to be strong, likeable and youthful.  

Adrianne also speaks about her new indie drama Due West, reuniting with fellow Friday Night Lights alumni and playing a woman forced to take control of her future when the systems around her fail. She discusses the power of independent filmmaking, the stories she wants to tell about women, and why she's drawn to characters who refuse to be defined by their circumstances. 

This is a conversation about ambition, resilience, identity, ageing, rejection and reinvention, and what happens when you stop asking other people who you're supposed to be. 

This episode covers: 

• Adrianne Palicki on the enduring legacy of Friday Night Lights 
• Why Tyra Collette still resonates with women nearly 20 years later 
• The Friday Night Lights 20th anniversary and reconnecting with the cast 
• The importance of Tyra's “define myself” college essay 
• Being underestimated and finding your own sense of possibility 
• Growing up and finding your way in Hollywood 
• Being a woman in an industry obsessed with youth and appearance 
• Rejection, ambition and redefining success 
• Ageing and finding freedom in your 40s 
• Adrianne's new film Due West 
• Reuniting with Friday Night Lights alumni on Due West 
• Producing Texas Forever: The Legacy of Friday Night Lights 
• What it means to define yourself on your own terms 

You can watch Due West on Apple TV 

Friday Night Lights 20th Anniversary Roadshow: www.plex.tv/friday-night-lights-roadtrip 

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What does it really take to maintain friendships as an adult, and why do we feel like failures when they fade?

In this special Friendship Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron go inside the pages of the new issue, from the small joys of catching up to the bigger, messier questions we're all asking:

They unpack the emotional labor of adult friendship, whether venting is a form of emotional misconduct or essential intimacy, the seven-year friendship statistic, what to do when you don't like a friend's partner, and the guilt of being the "bad friend." They also discuss "teen-ternity leave" — the phenomenon of mothers stepping back from careers when their kids become teenagers — and the very real cost to women's income, superannuation, and career progression.

They also cover Marie Claire's cover star Hannah Waddingham, Ted Lasso season four, her four-octave vocal range, perimenopause journey and why women's careers getting better in their 50s is something to celebrate.

This episode covers:

• Marie Claire Australia's Friendship Issue Hannah Waddingham cover story
• Ted Lasso season four
• The emotional labor of adult friendship
• Do friendships have to last forever?
• Am I a bad friend?
• When love takes over and friendships fall by the wayside
• In defense of venting
• Teen-ternity leave and the cost to women's careers
• Perimenopause, body image, and women in their 50s 
• Why friendship is oxygen for the soul

The May issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Hannah Waddingham, is on sale now.

Further reading from the August Issue:

Hannah Waddingham On Ted Lasso’s New Season, Fame & Friendship

Would You Take Time Off From Your Career To Go On Teen-ternity Leave?

If you want to read more of the featured stories, including In Defence of Venting by Bek Day and Best Friends Forever? By Alexandra English grab yourself a copy of the issue!

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Can starting over at 50 lead to the happiest chapter of your life? 

Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to fashion entrepreneur and style icon Tash Sefton about finding love again, turning 50, and the new life she never expected to build. 

Tash opens up about meeting her husband Adam and the unexpected way love entered her life after divorce. She talks candidly about self-sabotage, learning to accept kindness after being hurt, and why she believes love often arrives when you stop looking for it. She reflects on the moment she realised she had created an entirely new life for herself — and why she now sees starting again as something she would highly recommend. 

Tash also talks about turning 50, the anxiety she felt about the milestone and the beautiful way her friends and family helped her embrace it. Rather than seeing 50 as an ending, she began to recognise it as the beginning of a new chapter: one filled with love, friendship, purpose and a renewed sense of self. 

The conversation turns to style and the reason behind her business, Where Did Your Style Go? Tash explores why so many women lose touch with their personal style as their lives change, and why getting dressed should be about feeling like yourself rather than following trends. She shares her approach to building a wardrobe around classics, mixing vintage with contemporary pieces, and helping women understand their own style, while also discussing her relationship with social media and why authenticity matters more than chasing followers. 

This is a conversation about reinvention, identity, love and the freedom that can come with getting older. As Tash discovers, sometimes the life you build after everything changes can be even better than the one you thought you were meant to have. 

This episode covers: 

• Finding love again after divorce 
• Meeting Adam and learning to trust a new relationship 
• Self-sabotage and the fear of getting hurt again 
• Why love can arrive when you stop looking for it 
• Turning 50 and confronting the anxiety around ageing 
• The friendships that helped her embrace a new chapter 
• Starting a new life and choosing happiness 
• Why women can lose their sense of style as their lives change 
• The philosophy behind Where Did Your Style Go? 
• Building a wardrobe around classics rather than trends 
• Mixing vintage, contemporary fashion and personal style 
• Helping women rediscover who they are through what they wear 
• Using social media as a tool rather than letting it control you 
• Why she only promotes products she genuinely believes in 
• What success, happiness and purpose mean in this chapter of her life 

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What happens when the life you built no longer feels like your own?  

This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with fashion entrepreneur, digital creator and Where Did Your Style Go? founder Tash Sefton to talk about her extraordinary career, motherhood, divorce and the experience of rebuilding your identity from scratch. 

Tash takes us back to the beginning, from discovering her love of fashion through her Croatian grandmother and mother, to becoming a fashion buyer, entrepreneur and one of Australia's most recognisable style voices. She reflects on more than two decades spent shaping the way Australian women shop and dress, and why she eventually walked away from parts of the fashion industry that no longer felt authentic. 

She opens up about the end of her 22-year marriage, navigating divorce with children, and rediscovering who she was outside of being a wife and mother. Tash reflects on learning to be comfortable alone, rebuilding her confidence and identity, and finding the freedom to start again. 

Tash also shares what happened when she stopped looking for love, began dating again, and discovered that a new chapter could be even better than the one she'd left behind. 

Part two continues the conversation with Tash on finding love again, turning 50, the evolution of her personal style, authenticity on social media, and why so many women reach a point in life where they no longer recognise themselves.  

This episode covers: 

• Discovering fashion through her grandmother and mother 
• Building a career as a fashion buyer, entrepreneur and digital creator 
• More than two decades shaping Australian women's approach to style 
• Walking away from parts of the fashion industry that no longer felt authentic 
• The end of her 22-year marriage 
• Navigating divorce and motherhood 
• Losing and rebuilding her sense of identity 
• Learning to have a relationship with herself 
• Finding freedom and contentment in being alone 
• Dating after divorce and rediscovering herself 
• Why she wasn't looking for love when it eventually found her 
• Starting again and believing life can get better 

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Host Georgie McCourt   

Edited by Helen Smith 

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What happens when caring for the people who once cared for you becomes one of the biggest challenges of your life? 

This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by broadcaster, journalist and bestselling author Sarah Macdonald for an honest conversation about ageing parents, motherhood, work, grief, guilt and the invisible weight carried by so many women. 

Sarah is part of Australia's sandwich generation, caring for her 92-year-old mother and 94-year-old mother-in-law while navigating family life and a demanding media career. She opens up about the reality of caring for ageing parents, from managing the practical and emotional load to the moments of frustration, grief and unexpected joy that come with watching the people who raised you grow older. 

The conversation also explores what it means to be part of the sandwich generation: raising children, caring for ageing parents, maintaining a career and trying to hold onto a life of your own. Sarah shares why women need more recognition, support and honest conversations around caregiving, and why simply hearing the words "you're doing a great job" can mean so much. 

This episode covers:  

• Sarah Macdonald on life in the sandwich generation 
• Caring for ageing parents while raising a family 
• The invisible mental load of caregiving 
• Balancing motherhood, work and caring responsibilities 
• The impact of caregiving on women's careers 
• The career opportunities Sarah had to let go 
• Advocating for her father at the end of his life 
• The grief and guilt that comes with watching parents age 
• The emotional and practical realities of unpaid care 
• The importance of simply saying "you're doing a great job" 
• How women can prepare for their parents getting older 
• Finding moments of joy while caring for ageing parents 
• What Australia needs to do differently for unpaid carers 
• Why the sandwich generation is one of the defining issues facing women today 

You can find Sarah's podcast Club Sandwich here

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Host Georgie McCourt   

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Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain 

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What does life really look like after becoming one of the world's most famous supermodels?  

This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Miranda Kerr for an intimate conversation about motherhood, co-parenting, building a global beauty empire, and the personal experiences that shaped the woman behind the headlines. From becoming Australia's first Victoria's Secret Angel to founding KORA Organics, Miranda reflects on the career, family and values that continue to define her today. 

She opens up about growing up in country Australia, becoming famous in her twenties, navigating life under intense public scrutiny, and finding peace after the end of her marriage to Orlando Bloom. She also speaks candidly about raising four boys, co-parenting in a modern blended family, and how she met her husband, Snapchat founder Evan Spiegel. 

Miranda also reflects on the deeply personal experience that inspired her to launch KORA Organics. After her mother was diagnosed with tumours when Miranda was a teenager, she became passionate about nutrition, wellness and certified organic skincare, long before the wellness industry became what it is today. More than 15 years later, KORA Organics is sold in over 30 countries, with Miranda still personally involved in everything from product development to ingredient sourcing. 

This is a conversation about ambition, resilience, family, forgiveness and what success looks like beyond the runway. Miranda also shares the wellness rituals she genuinely swears by, the biohacks she believes are worth the hype, how her priorities have changed since turning 43, and why looking after yourself starts from the inside out. 

This episode covers:  

• Miranda Kerr on life beyond modelling 
• Becoming Australia's first Victoria's Secret Angel 
• Building KORA Organics into a global beauty brand 
• The family health scare that changed her life 
• Motherhood and raising four boys 
• Co-parenting with Orlando Bloom 
• Marriage, family life and Evan Spiegel 
• Fame, forgiveness and finding perspective 
• Wellness routines and biohacks that actually work 
• Turning 43 and redefining success 
• Growing up in regional Australia 
• Why authenticity has become her greatest strength 

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Credits:   

Host Georgie McCourt   

Edited by Helen Smith 

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain 

With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire  

You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media. 

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