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WCA #614 with Michael Frondelli, Part 1 – Astoria, R&B Days, Salsa Nights, and Electric Lady22 Sep 202600:54:13

For episode 614, Matt talks with Michael Frondelli, producer, engineer, and former Vice President of Capitol Records Studios, where he ran the facility for eleven years before going independent in 2001. Michael grew up in Astoria, Queens. Tony Bennett took vocal lessons with his Uncle Sal. The Walken family ran the bakery on Steinway Street. He came up playing guitar in soul bands and rock bands in the 60s, studied business in college, landed a maintenance tech job at Broadway Recording on 1697 Broadway, and from there made his way to Electric Lady in November 1975, where he spent nine years. This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Growing Up in Astoria, Queens
  • Music in the Family and Learning Guitar
  • Soul Bands, Rock Bands, and the 60s
  • College, the Draft Lottery, and Moving to Manhattan
  • Carpentry, Soundproofing, and Finding a Way Into Recording
  • Broadway Recording at 1697 Broadway
  • Learning to Listen, Watch, and Visualize Signal Path
  • Landing at Electric Lady in 1975
  • Nine Years in the Room: Zeppelin, Chick Corea, Jaco Pastorius, Joni Mitchell
  • Working With Eddie Kramer on Song Remains the Same
  • Rebel Yell: Finding Billy Idol a Drummer
  • Keith Forsey, Charlie Sexton, and Don't You Forget About Me
  • Getting Management and Learning the Business
  • Going From $5 an Hour to $2,500 a Mix

Matt's RANT!: Revisiting Backing Up and Archiving

Links and Show Notes:

Michael's site

Credits:

  • Guest: Michael Frondelli
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #613 with Ben Mellott – Northern Virginia, Church Sound, Farm Festivals, and Profit First15 Sep 202601:06:24

For episode 613, Matt talks with Ben Mellott — recording engineer, mixer, and owner of Nothing but Noise studio in Northern Virginia. Ben has been freelance since 2014, balances studio work with live production at churches, farms, and local venues, and runs every dollar through the Profit First system. They talk about building a career on curiosity, the alternative path through cassette manufacturing and church sound, and why the business side of audio doesn't sound like fun until it absolutely is.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Northern Virginia, Born and Raised
  • A Dad at Toys R Us and a Mom in the Church Choir
  • Recording Bands on a Tascam Four-Track at Ten Dollars a Song
  • The Recording Workshop in Chillicothe, Ohio — Audio Boot Camp
  • Learning Signal Flow Before Hardware
  • Manufacturing Cassettes and CDs at Lion Recording
  • Moving Into Graphics — Quark Express, InDesign, and Terrible Early Websites
  • Roadie and Merch for a Month-Long US Tour With Frodus
  • Getting the Farm Festival Gig
  • Ten Years of Sunday Church Sound — and What He Learned About Temperament
  • The Drummer in the Crowd Who Got Him the Venue Gig
  • Real-Life Social Proof — Likable Enough (For a Live Sound Guy)
  • Curiosity as a Career Strategy
  • Nothing But Noise — The Studio and the Freelance Life Since 2014
  • Debt, an Inheritance That Didn't Change the Slope, and the Pandemic
  • Implementing the Profit First System
  • Of Every Thousand Dollars, Only $150 Is Spendable — and Why That's the Point
  • Self-Financing Gear and Paying Yourself Back on a Payment Plan
  • The Sweetwater Rep Who Said You've Got a Lot of Gear
  • The Business Side Doesn't Sound Like Fun Until It Is

Matt's RANT!: Doing Things the Alternative Way

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

Guest: Ben Mellott

Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau

WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell

The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #612 with Brian Starley – Utah, Cartage, Building a Studio in LA, and Relationships Before Gear08 Sep 202601:10:21

For episode 612, Matt talks with Brian Starley recording and mixing engineer based in North Hollywood, California, and owner of Bergatron Music Studio. Brian grew up in Salt Lake City with a dad who transferred vinyl to cassette for the car, chased a hockey career to Ontario, came home to Utah without a plan, and found recording through a coworker who'd interned at the Blasting Room. After learning Pro Tools at twenty bucks an hour and getting out of Utah in 2005, he landed at Musicians Institute in LA and then at Lon Cohen Studio Rentals a cartage company where he spent six years moving Tim Pierce's guitars and Mike Elizondo's Logic rig around the city. After going freelance in 2013, he built a YouTube live session channel, had his busiest mixing years during COVID, and then spent the better part of two years fighting LA permits, tariffs, and a construction crew to build his dream studio — refinancing the house to do it. They talk about what cartage taught him about gear and sessions, the mobile recording revelation that shaped his whole approach, building a studio in 2025 LA, the stress that put him in the hospital with diverticulitis, and why you should focus on relationships before gear.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

- Growing Up in Salt Lake City, Utah — The Zion Curtain

- A Dad Who Transferred Vinyl to Cassette and Filled the Car With Music

- Hockey, Rage Against the Machine, and a Dream of the NHL

- Moving to Shelburne, Ontario to Play Junior Hockey

- Coming Home to Utah and Finding Construction Work for His Dad

- A Coworker From the Blasting Room Who Changed Everything

- Learning Pro Tools at Twenty Bucks an Hour on a Digi 001

- Getting Into Trouble and Getting Out of Utah — Moving to LA in 2005

- Musicians Institute and Finding the Path Into Recording

- Landing at Lawn — a Cartage Company for LA's Top Session Musicians

- Tim Pierce, Joe Chiccarelli, Abe Laboriel Sr., and What Cartage Taught Him

- Mike Elizondo's Logic Rig and the Mobile Recording Revelation

- Scab Dates, Church Choirs, and Recording With a Handful of Mics

- Post Production School, Roger Nichols, and Getting Certified in Pro Tools

- Going Freelance in 2013

- Live Sessions at Custom Vintage Keys With JJ Blair and the Boba Jam Channel

- The Decision to Build a Studio — and Reaching Out to Josh Nyback in 2023

- Two and a Half Years of Permits, Hidden Fees, and LA Bureaucracy

- Refinancing the House to Fund the Build

- Tariffs, Construction Costs, and Watching the Budget Disappear

- Supervising a General Contractor Who Didn't Know What a Studio Was

- Isomax Clips, Green Glue, and Checking Every Screw

- Diverticulitis in November From the Stress of the Build

- His Wife Allie — The Person Who Got Them Through It

- Crying in the Finished Room When They First Put the Speakers Up

- California Disability Insurance for Freelancers — and the Scott McDowell Episode

- You Don't Need All the Gear — Build Relationships First

- Support the Ecosystem — Book Studios, Pay for Mastering

Matt's RANT!: Things Matt Is Doing

Links


Credits:

- Guest: Brian Starley

- Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau

- WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell

- The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #611 with Scott McDowell – Berklee, California vs New York, Getting Fired, Becoming a Studio Partner, and Getting Hit by a Car01 Sep 202601:08:56

Scott McDowell is a producer, engineer, and co-owner of Wally's Hydeout at Hyde Street Studios in San Francisco. In episode 611 they talk about getting fired from his first SF internship, becoming a studio partner at Wally’s Hydeout, surviving COVID, getting hit by a car in March 2026, recovering from a TBI, and why every freelancer in California needs to sign up for state disability insurance before something happens.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Co-owning a Studio, Making Records, and Working in Game Audio
  • Growing Up in Novato — North Marin County
  • A Broadcast Engineer Dad
  • Working Niners Games on the Sideline
  • Heading to Berklee for Trumpet
  • A Hernia That Ended the Trumpet Career and Started the Recording One
  • City College SF, SF Soundworks, and Getting Fired
  • John Vanderslice, Tiny Telephone, and the Referral to Justin Phelps
  • Interning at Hyde Street Studios With Justin Phelps and Jaimeson Durr
  • Filling the Calendar for Six Months to Avoid Being Replaced — Then Getting Made a Partner
  • The CDR Run That He Thought Was a Firing
  • Eight Years of Game Audio
  • COVID Survival
  • Getting Hit by a Car in Northridge
  • The TBI, the Wheelchair, and Coming Back
  • California Disability Insurance Elective Coverage — Why Every Freelancer Should Sign Up

Matt's RANT!: Accumulation

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Scott McDowell
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #610 with Stephen Shirk – Bloomington, New York, Chicago, and Twenty Years of SHIRK Studios25 Aug 202600:58:55

For episode 610, Matt talks with Stephen Shirk — engineer, producer, guitarist, and owner of SHIRK Studios in Chicago's West Town neighborhood. Stephen grew up in Bloomington, Illinois, studied business at Miami University, moved to New York in 1998 with a friend's couch as his launch pad, and worked his way through the Hit Factory and a jingle house where he built Pro Tools systems, got his SAG card, and learned from Jay Messina. In 2004 he moved to Chicago, rented studio spaces for a decade, and in 2013 bought the building he now runs as a semi-commercial studio with a Sphere console, instruments on every wall, and a deliberately un-sterile feel. They talk about the HearYa live sessions that built his early reputation, word-of-mouth marketing and what comes next, Steve Albini and Electrical Audio, owning vs. renting in Chicago's studio ecosystem, and getting back out to shows.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

- Growing Up in Bloomington, Illinois

- Church Choir, Guitar at Fourth Grade, and Early Bands

- A Business Degree at Miami University and Playing in Bands

- Moving to New York in 1998 With a Friend's Couch as a Launch Pad

- Learning Pro Tools Version 4 on the Fly

- Starting at the Hit Factory as a General Assistant

- The Culture Shock of New York Speed — and Learning to Shut Up

- Moving to a Jingle House: More Engineering, More Money, a Synclavier

- Building Pro Tools Systems and Getting a Pager From the Boss

- Learning From Jay Messina (Early Aerosmith, Jack Douglas)

- Getting His SAG Card and Discovering Mailbox Money

- Moving to Chicago in 2004 and Renting Studio Spaces

- Buying the Building in 2013 and the History Behind It

- SHIRK Studios: Semi-Commercial, Instruments on Every Wall

- Avoiding the Sterile Studio — Guilford of Maine Walls and Why He Hates Them

- Word of Mouth Marketing and Wondering What's Next

- Chicago's Studio Scene: Narwhal, Brian Deck, and the DIY Wave

- Steve Albini and Electrical Audio

- Owning the Building vs. Renting — Lessons From Chicago Studios

- Live-Work Lofts as an Option for Engineer-Owners

- Getting Back Out to Shows and Reconnecting With the Scene

- The Red Room: Chicago's Fifty-Cap DIY Listening Venue

- Dana Nielsen Listening to the Episode and the Buttoned-Up Business

Matt's RANT!: Getting the Job Done Part 2

Links and Show Notes:

- SHIRK Studios

- WCA #363 with Chaz Root

- WCA #137 with Anthony Gravino

- WCA #607 with Dana Nielsen

-WCA #164 with Steve Albini

Credits:

- Guest: Stephen Shirk

- Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau

- WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell

- The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #609 with Eric M Lichter – Martha's Vineyard, New York, Connecticut, and the Beauty Marks That Make a Record18 Aug 202601:13:35

For episode 609, Matt talks with Eric M Lichter — multi-instrumentalist, producer, and owner of Dirt Floor Recording in Connecticut, where he’s been in business for twenty years. Eric came up singing in chorus, spent time on Martha’s Vineyard playing the Hot Tin Roof and landing in Carly Simon’s living room with Danny Kortchmar and Jerry Marotta in the liner notes, then moved to New York, recorded at Sear Sound on a Polygram AR’s dime, and eventually landed back in Connecticut to open a studio on a wing and a prayer in 2006. They talk about the Ed Wood approach to recording — get the vibe before the moment is gone — why he leaves the beauty marks in, pitching a studio to 90-year-old landlords, keeping a tight ship with bankers hours, vetting clients for energy, a proposal-based pricing model, and the Caribou Ranch mentality that has everyone leaving with fresh eggs from the chickens out back.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Twenty Years of Dirt Floor Recording in Connecticut
  • Growing Up in a Sports-First Town and Finding His Voice in Chorus
  • The Soccer Coach Who Changed His Life
  • John Mayer, Keith Richards, and Goose — Connecticut’s Quiet Music Scene
  • The Hot Tin Roof on Martha’s Vineyard — and Carly Simon’s Living Room
  • Danny Kortchmar, Jerry Marotta, and Reading the Credits as a Kid
  • New York City, Polygram, and Recording at Sear Sound
  • Failing Guitar 101 in College and Trusting the Natural Thing
  • The Troubadour Years — Singer-Songwriter on the Road
  • Watching His Brother Make a Record With Jerry Marotta at Jarysville
  • Discovering Tape Op and Saying Out Loud “I’m Going to Be in That Magazine”
  • Starting Dirt Floor in Chester, Connecticut in 2006
  • The Ed Wood Approach: Getting the Vibe Before the Moment Is Gone
  • Beauty Marks — Why He Leaves the Imperfections In
  • Why Real Music Is Winning Against AI
  • Kids Discovering Van Halen and AC/DC on Their Own
  • Ethan Johns, Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner — Who Inspired Him
  • The Rented House That Became Dirt Floor’s Current Home
  • Pitching a Studio to 90-Year-Old Landlords — and Winning Them Over
  • Keeping Overhead Low — The Case for Renting vs. Owning
  • Vetting Artists: Why He Turns Down Projects That Drain the Room
  • Bankers Hours: 9:30 to 5:30 and Going Home
  • Other Engineers Working Nights — The Studio Humming When He’s Not There
  • Pricing by Proposal — Hourly, Day Rate, and Full Project Budget
  • The Caribou Ranch Mentality — Full Hospitality for Artists Who Stay
  • Everybody Leaves With Eggs — The Dirt Floor Signature

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Twenty Years of Dirt Floor Recording in Connecticut
  • Growing Up in a Sports-First Town and Finding His Voice in Chorus
  • The Soccer Coach Who Changed His Life
  • John Mayer, Keith Richards, and Goose — Connecticut’s Quiet Music Scene
  • The Hot Tin Roof on Martha’s Vineyard — and Carly Simon’s Living Room
  • Danny Kortchmar, Jerry Marotta, and Reading the Credits as a Kid
  • New York City, Polygram, and Recording at Sear Sound
  • Failing Guitar 101 in College and Trusting the Natural Thing
  • The Troubadour Years — Singer-Songwriter on the Road
  • Watching His Brother Make a Record With Jerry Marotta at Jarysville
  • Discovering Tape Op and Saying Out Loud “I’m Going to Be in That Magazine”
  • Starting Dirt Floor in Chester, Connecticut in 2006
  • The Ed Wood Approach: Getting the Vibe Before the Moment Is Gone
  • Beauty Marks — Why He Leaves the Imperfections In
  • Why Real Music Is Winning Against AI
  • Kids Discovering Van Halen and AC/DC on Their Own
  • Ethan Johns, Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner — Who Inspired Him
  • The Rented House That Became Dirt Floor’s Current Home
  • Pitching a Studio to 90-Year-Old Landlords — and Winning Them Over
  • Keeping Overhead Low — The Case for Renting vs. Owning
  • Vetting Artists: Why He Turns Down Projects That Drain the Room
  • Bankers Hours: 9:30 to 5:30 and Going Home
  • Other Engineers Working Nights — The Studio Humming When He’s Not There
  • Pricing by Proposal — Hourly, Day Rate, and Full Project Budget
  • The Caribou Ranch Mentality — Full Hospitality for Artists Who Stay
  • Everybody Leaves With Eggs — The Dirt Floor Signature

Matt’s RANT!: Getting the Job Done!

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Eric M Lichter
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #608 with Julian Kindred – Canada, America, England, and Thirty-Five Years of Making Records10 Aug 202601:19:28

For episode 608, Matt talks with Julian Kindred — Canadian producer, engineer, and songwriter based in London, where he runs Nonsuch Park Studio in Epsom, Surrey. Julian grew up in St. John, New Brunswick — a working-class port city he describes as a place where people punched in all week and played blues in bars on the weekend — and found his way into recording through a part-time job at a music shop and access to synthesizers. Too broke for Berklee, he took a corporate function band gig that got him to Nashville, where he cold-called Music Row for a year and a half before landing a spot at Studio Nineteen. Ten years on Music Row followed, and then a move to London in 2003. They talk about what Nashville taught him about song craft and on-the-floor tracking, learning persistence in two different cultures, surviving a lull before the Ellie Goulding record turned things around, managing money as a freelancer, and why longevity attracts a different kind of client than talent alone ever did. Enjoy!

In This Episode, We Discuss:

- Growing Up in St. John, New Brunswick

- "Sultans of Swing" as a Portrait of His Hometown

- A Musical Family and a Father Who Taught Guitar

- Keyboards at Eleven and a Part-Time Job at a Music Shop

- Access to Synthesizers and the Recording Bug

- Too Broke for Berklee — and the Corporate Function Band That Got Him to Nashville

- Cold-Calling Music Row for a Year and a Half

- Studio Nineteen: A Five-Week Course, a Trident Desk, and Patsy Cline's Living Room

- Learning the Craft in Nashville's Legendary Rooms

- What Ten Years on Music Row Taught Him About Song Craft

- On-the-Floor Tracking: Finishing a Record in One Session

- Nashville vs. London: Tracking Rooms, Production Rooms, and Culture

- Moving to London in 2003 for a Woman — and Building a Career From Scratch

- Learning Persistence in Two Different Cultures

- The Lull, the Ellie Goulding Record, and the Comeback

- Universal, Polydor, and Building a Repeat Client Base in the UK

- Nonsuch Park Studio: A Purpose-Built Room in the Back of the Garden

- Managing Money as a Freelancer: Living Below Your Means

- Why Longevity Attracts a Different Kind of Client

- The Conversations About You That You'll Never Hear

Matt's RANT!: Random Items

Links and Show Notes:

- Julian Kindred

- Nonsuch Park Studio

- DriveDX

- ExifTool

- NeoFinder

Credits:

- Guest: Julian Kindred

- Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau

- WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell

- The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #607 with Dana Nielsen – Jazz School, System of a Down, SZA, and the Money Side of a Long Career04 Aug 202601:31:02

For episode 607, Matt talks with Dana Nielsen — Grammy-nominated producer, mixer, engineer, multi-instrumentalist, and founder of Mix Protégé in Los Angeles. Dana came up as a jazz saxophonist at Loyola University in New Orleans, where a Brian Blade album and a set of studio keys changed his direction. After chasing Daniel Lanois all the way to a phone call with Teatro and eventually moving to LA with no plan, he found his footing at Guitar Center on Sunset, caught a break on a System of a Down session with Dave Schiffman, and built a career in Rick Rubin's camp alongside Andrew Scheps, Greg Fidelman, and Philip Broussard. Now with 450+ credits and 30B+ streams, they talk about the unspoken rules of the studio hierarchy, keeping cool when everything goes wrong, running six albums at once, and the financial discipline (—SEP IRAs, 529s, and a high-yield savings habit—) that keeps a freelance life sustainable.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

- Musician First: Jazz Saxophone at Loyola University

- The Brian Blade Fellowship Album That Changed Everything

- Keys to the Studio: His First Real Recording Access

- Growing Up Outside Chicago and Reading the Credits

- Chasing Daniel Lanois: The Phone Call to Teatro

- How That Call Became the First Chapter of a Friendship With Philip Broussard

- Moving to LA With No Job and Landing at Guitar Center on Sunset

- The Film Lot Engineer Who Told Him to Say What He Wanted

- Learning to Read the Room and Raise His Hand

- Breaking In: System of a Down With Dave Schiffman

- Meeting Andrew Scheps

- How Rick Rubin's Camp Became His World

- The Unspoken Rules: Hierarchy, Knowing Your Role, and Keeping Notes

- Passing Gems Up the Chain Without Stealing the Credit

- How One Alliance Becomes the Next

- Recording Justin Timberlake's Vocals With a Green Screen and No Metering

- Keeping Cool When Everything Goes South in the Studio

- Six Albums at Once: Managing Multiple Projects With ClickUp

- Client Management With Dubsado and Automating the Paperwork

- Feast or Famine: How He Structures the Money

- SEP IRAs, High-Yield Savings, and a 529 From Day One

- Buying Gear as a Tax-Deductible Investment That Appreciates

- The Financial Advisor Who Got Them Into Their Culver City Home

- Telling People What You Want — From the Studio to the Rent Check

Matt's RANT!: Taking Stock of Our Profession

Links and Show Notes:

- Dana Nielsen

- Mix Protégé

- Dana Nielsen (Instagram)

- WCA #294 with McKay Garner

- WCA #590 with Phillip Broussard

- WCA #398 with Dave Schiffman

- ClickUp

- Dubsado

Credits:

- Guest: Dana Nielsen

- Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau

- WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell

- The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #606 with Neil Rogers – Eighteen Years of Half-ton Studios, Bootstrapping in Cambridge, and Writing for Sound on Sound28 Jul 202601:07:46

For episode 606, Matt talks with Neil Rogers — recording engineer, owner of Half-ton Studios in Cambridge, and longtime reviewer for Sound on Sound. After a decade of gigging as a drummer with no payoff, Neil found a music tech degree at 26 that rebuilt his confidence, then answered a group email about a ramshackle unit next to a brewery and built a studio there on about £7,000 and favors. Eighteen years on, they talk about the accidental great-sounding drum room, rebuilding bigger during COVID, pricing, being honest with young people about studio careers, and the joy of recording bands live on the floor.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Meeting Matt Over a Pint in Cambridge
  • Eighteen Years of Half-ton Studios
  • Writing for Sound on Sound
  • Learning Drums When School Friends Started a Band
  • Why So Many Engineers Are Drummers
  • A Decade of Gigging Without a Payoff
  • A Music Tech Degree at 26
  • Discovering He Could Write
  • The Group Email and the Unit Next to a Brewery
  • Starting With £7,000 and Favors
  • The Accidental Great-Sounding Drum Room
  • First Gear: a £700 Soundtracs Desk
  • MySpace, Flyers, and Rehearsal Income
  • Rebuilding Bigger During COVID
  • Working With an Acoustician
  • How the New Room Draws Bands From London
  • Pricing and the Independent Band Rate
  • Honest Advice for Young Engineers
  • Workshops and Taster Sessions
  • Why He Limits Mixing Work
  • Recording Bands Live on the Floor

Matt’s RANT!: CLUTTER!

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Neil Rogers
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #605 with Chris Mara – Building Welcome to 1979, Restoring Tape Machines, and Saying Yes to Everything20 Jul 202601:03:40

Chris Mara owns Welcome to 1979, one of the larger recording studios in Nashville, along with his wife Yoli. He joins Matt for episode 605 to talk about moving to Nashville at 20, building Mara Machines and a vinyl mastering department alongside the studio, and running it for 18 years with no partners and almost no borrowed money.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Growing Up in an 800-Person Wisconsin Town With No Internet and No Roadmap
  • Community College Recording and Moving to Nashville at 20
  • "I Am Working Class": No Safety Net, No Umbilical Cord
  • The Unpaid Internship and the Downtown Bellman Job That Funded It
  • Trading Every Favor to Pull Studio Shifts
  • Keys and Alarm Codes to Ten Studios
  • Seeing the Same Gear Used a Million Different Ways
  • Working Across Every Format: 2-Inch, RADAR, DAT, and Early Pro Tools
  • The Nashville Number System and Country-Session Efficiency
  • Bringing in Rock Bands and Running Them Like Pro Country Dates
  • Justifying Your Existence When the Guitarist Has Pro Tools at Home
  • Coming Up With Welcome to 1979 (and the Runner-Up: "Simulated Wood Grain")
  • Pitching a Studio to His Pregnant Wife for $1,100 a Month
  • "You Can Break Even As Long As You Want"
  • Yoli Quitting Her Job to Run the Business Side
  • How Mara Machines Was Born From a Side Hustle
  • Multiple Income Streams and Why They Carry the Weight
  • Watching Your Overhead Before It Sinks You
  • Is That Gear Going to Make You Money, or Just Sit There?
  • Renting Rooms Instead of Buying Them
  • Saying Yes to Everything and Learning on Someone Else's Dime
  • 18 Years, No Partners, Almost No Borrowed Money, Still Married
  • The Recording Summit, Tape Camps, and Vinyl Camps

Matt's RANT!: A Brain Dump

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Chris Mara
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #604 with Alec Ness – Mastering in Minneapolis, Resisting Homogenization, and Putting the Art First12 Jul 202601:04:18

For episode 604, Matt talks with Alec Ness, a mastering engineer in Minneapolis and the owner of Ness Mastering. Alec joins to tell an unusual origin story: born with partially amputated fingers, he was steered from guitar to drums, caught the recording bug on Cakewalk in a Dakotas high school, and chased music through a now-defunct college (McNally Smith), the San Francisco and LA beat scenes as an Ableton Certified Trainer, and years touring as a producer and artist — before pivoting fully into mastering as the pandemic hit. He learned the craft by badgering his way into Greg Reierson's Rare Form Mastering and trading questions with Mandy Parnell, then sold his entire modular synth rig to buy the speakers for his own room. They get into the "Should everything sound the same?" note on his desk, resisting the loudness game, controlling your space, putting the art before the money, and the health toll of going too hard.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

- Growing Up in the Dakotas and “Flyover” Music Culture

- A Coffee Shop, a Venue, and Touring Bands Passing Through

- Born With Half His Fingers: From Guitar to Drums

- Catching the Recording Bug on Cakewalk in High School

- The Guitar Shop That Introduced Him to Ableton

- McNally Smith, Composition, and Dropping Out

- San Francisco, the LA Beat Scene, and Becoming an Ableton Certified Trainer

- From Producer and Artist to Mixing and Mastering

- A Studio in the Back of a South Dakota Guitar Shop

- Old Tools, Limitations, and Learning Phase and Mics the Hard Way

- The Dua Saleh Remix Album That Tipped Him Into Mastering

- Backing Off Touring Right as the Pandemic Hit

- Learning From Greg Reierson at Rare Form Mastering

- Badgering Mandy Parnell for Lessons

- "Should Everything Sound the Same?" Resisting Homogenization

- Why He Won’t Master to the Loudness of a Reference

- Controlling Your Space and Reducing Variables

- Selling His Modular Synths to Buy His Speakers

- Empathy, the Artist’s Vision, and Serving the Music

- Art First, Money Second, and Time as the Real Currency

- Health, Overwork, and Backing Off Before It Broke Him

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

- Guest: Alec Ness

- Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau

- WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell

- The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #603 with Lorenzo Wolff – Building a Brooklyn Studio, Session Bass to Taylor Swift, and Working for Ms. Lauryn Hill05 Jul 202601:01:43

For episode 603, Matt talks with Lorenzo Wolff — a Grammy-winning engineer, producer, musician, and owner of Restoration Sound in Brooklyn. Lorenzo joins on a Saturday from New York to trace a path from a hip-hop-obsessed kid in Nyack, chasing the basslines on Fugees and Wyclef records, to a session bassist, to interning under engineer Scott Lehrer at Second Story Sound, to building one of Brooklyn's most community-minded studios over eleven years. Along the way his string session with violinist Bobby Hawk turned out to be a Taylor Swift record, which led to Ye's Donda, which led to his ongoing work with Ms. Lauryn Hill. They get into the two tiers of gigs (community vs. famous), funding a studio build with a patron's retainer, why he treats generosity and conflict de-escalation as business strategy, and the honesty it takes to work with visionary artists. Enjoy!

In This Episode, We Discuss:

- Growing Up in Nyack, New York, in an Integrated Music Town

- From Hip-Hop and Turntables to Hunting Down the Bass

- The Fugees, Wyclef, Jerry Wonda, and Outkast as a Way In

- Becoming a Session Bass Player to Live in Studios

- Interning at Second Story Sound Under Scott Lehrer

- Being Sent to the Library to Read the Dry Theory First

- Why He Left to Start His Own Shops and Chase Creativity

- Building a Brooklyn Studio Over Eleven Years

- Winning Over Landlords: "Your Success Is Our Success" (and Cookies)

- The Patron Who Funded a Studio by Commissioning a Musical

- Survival Economics: Production Suites That Pay the Rent

- Community as a Business Model

- The Two Tiers of Gigs: Community vs. Famous

- The Bobby Hawk String Session That Became a Taylor Swift Record

- One Credit Leading to the Next: Folklore to Donda

- Working for Ms. Lauryn Hill

- Telling the Truth in the Room With Visionary Artists

- What "He's Gonna Be Okay" Really Means at That Level

- Why High-Profile Credits Do (and Don’t) Create More Work

- Generosity and De-escalation as Studio Strategy

- Why He Struggles With Interns

Links and Show Notes:

- Restoration Sound

- Lorenzo Wolff (Instagram)

Credits:

- Guest: Lorenzo Wolff

- Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau

- WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell

- The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #602 with Luke Burgoyne – Seven Years Assisting a Top UK Mixer, Mix Prep, and Going Solo in London28 Jun 202601:04:09

For episode 602, Matt talks with London mix engineer Luke Burgoyne, who joins from his room at Pony Studios in East London. Luke grew up in Winchester with two violinist parents, fell for the studio side of music at sixteen, and studied performance and recording at the University of West London before spending the last seven years assisting one of the UK's busiest mixers, Dan Grech-Marguerat (Lana Del Rey, The Killers, Liam Gallagher, George Ezra). Now he's transitioning into his own career as a mixer and producer. They get into the realities of high-level mix prep, what seven years of assisting actually teaches you, why UK managers tend to bring in work in a way American managers often don't, sharing expensive London rooms, his skeptical take on Atmos, and the differences between the UK and US recording ecosystems.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Growing Up in Winchester With Two Violinist Parents
  • From the Beatles and Guitar to the Pull of the Studio
  • Why It Was Always About the Music, Not the Technology
  • Studying Performance and Recording at the University of West London
  • Realizing He'd Rather Record Great Players Than Compete With Them
  • Cold-Emailing Abbey Road, RAK, and Getting No Replies
  • Landing the Assistant Job With Dan Grech-Marguerat (on the Second Try)
  • Seven Years Assisting One of the UK's Busiest Mixers
  • The Soft Skills: Managing Clients, Files, and Spinning Plates
  • Mixing in the Box: Pro Tools, Recall, and Multiple Machines
  • Deep Mix Prep: Rebuilding Logic and Ableton Sessions in Pro Tools
  • Learning a Mixer's Quirks So They Never Leave the Creative Space
  • Transitioning From Assistant to Mixer and Producer
  • Getting Management and Why UK Managers Bring in Work
  • How UK and US Managers Differ
  • Building a Network While Assisting Five or Six Days a Week
  • Studio Identity: Staff Engineer vs. Independent Freelancer
  • The London Studio Ecosystem: Abbey Road, AIR, RAK, and Metropolis
  • Renting a Room at Pony Studios and Sharing Space in Expensive London
  • Neumanns, Genelec 1031s, and Working on Headphones
  • His Take on Atmos: Right for "Dark Side of the Moon," Wrong for AC/DC
  • Camaraderie Over Competition in London

Matt's RANT!: Technology Prices

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Luke Burgoyne
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #601 with Gert Keunen – Immersive Audio, "Stereo Was a Nice Try," a Dozen Careers, and Brewing His Own Beer21 Jun 202601:18:37

For episode 601, Matt sits down with Belgian musician, mastering engineer, and sociologist of music Gert Keunen — recommended to the show by past guest John Greenham. Gert has spent 35 years saying yes to nearly everything music: seven albums of his own, the nu-jazz project Briskey, a PhD in the sociology of music, four books on pop history, stints as a record-label staffer and newspaper critic, teaching at conservatories in Ghent, and most recently a deep dive into immersive audio that produced his book STEREO – Was a Nice Try. He joins from the Flemish countryside — where he also runs a 200-liter brewery and grows his own hops — to talk about how he manages time across all of it, why he learns best by teaching, how ADHD and dyslexia shaped an offline, notebook-driven discipline, and why he believes the future of immersive music is composing in 3D from the very first note rather than up mixing stereo.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Living a Passion-Driven Life Across Music, Academia, and Beer
  • Managing Time When You Do a Dozen Things (and Cycling to Clear the Mind)
  • Growing Up in Flanders: Flute, Pink Floyd, and a Cracked Cubase on an Atari
  • Why He'd Rather Create Music Than Perform It
  • A PhD in the Sociology of Music and Four Books on Pop History
  • Teaching Music History, Sociology, and Production in Ghent
  • Going All-In on Mastering for a Year with Friedemann Tischmeyer and Ian Shepherd
  • How ADHD and Dyslexia Shaped His Offline, Notebook-Driven Learning
  • Why Teaching Is How He Actually Learns
  • Discovering Immersive Audio Through Apple Spatial Audio on Earbuds
  • Why a Good Immersive Mix Makes the Headphone Experience Better
  • Writing STEREO – Was a Nice Try Because No Good Handbook Existed
  • "13 Reasons Why Dolby Atmos Sucks" — and His Rebuttals
  • Creating Immersive From the Ground Up vs. Upmixing Stereo
  • A Format-Agnostic Workflow: Object, Channel, and Scene-Based, Then Choose Atmos or Auro-3D Later
  • Teaching Immersive at a Conservatory With a Dolby Atmos Room
  • Translating Student Tracks to a Live Immersive System at Ghent's Winter Circus
  • Pricing Mastering, Student Discounts, and Treating Gear as the Real Payment
  • Gear Acquisition, Buy-and-Return, and "a Hobby That Pays for Itself"
  • Finding Community Online Through Chris Salim's MCC
  • Running a 200-Liter Brewery, Growing His Own Hops, and Why Beer Is Like Making Music

Matt's RANT!: Time

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Gert Keunen
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #600 with Andrew Scheps – Atmos, Imposter Syndrome, Coding Plugins with AI, Climbing Walls, and 600 Episodes14 Jun 202601:19:47

Matt celebrates episode 600 of Working Class Audio with a guest who's been there since the beginning — mixer and producer Andrew Scheps, who first appeared back on episodes 009 300 & 477. Andrew joins from his home in rural England to talk about winning MPG Atmos Mixer of the Year for his work on Low Roar, how he approaches Dolby Atmos delivery and client approval, why he switched from Sony headphones to the Audeze LCD-MX4, and what he's learned about training your brain to externalize binaural audio. The conversation also covers writing his own plugins with Claude and the JUCE framework, why he quit drinking four years ago and found rock climbing instead, breaking his foot, the realities of working with a manager, what "retirement" even means when no one tells you you're done, and why — 600 episodes in — Working Class Audio still matters in a way that's different from everything else.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • 600 Episodes In — Andrew's Long History with the Show
  • Winning MPG Atmos Mixer of the Year for the Low Roar Catalog
  • The MPG vs. a US Equivalent: Advocacy, VAT, and Saving Studios
  • Being an American Honored Inside a UK Organization
  • Why the Low Roar "House in the Woods" Atmos Mix May Be His Best Work
  • The Pressure of Paid Work vs. Unpaid Passion Projects
  • Still Battling Imposter Syndrome After Decades at the Top
  • Why He Hates Sending Mixes Out
  • Atmos Delivery Workflow: Binaural, MP4, ADM, and the Two-Page PDF
  • Training Your Brain to Externalize Binaural Audio
  • Why He Starts Atmos Mixes in Headphones, Not Speakers
  • Switching from Sony Headphones to the Audeze LCD-MX4
  • Steven Wilson and Staying True to the Music in Atmos
  • Discovering Rock Climbing as Moving Meditation
  • Breaking His Foot — and Five Weeks on the Sidelines
  • Alex Honnold, Free Solo, and the Idea of Minimizing Risk
  • Quitting Drinking Four Years Ago and Stepping Away from Pub Culture
  • Is There a Calculation Behind a Career? Building Extra Income Streams
  • The Retirement Question: "They'll Just Stop Hiring Us"
  • Writing Plugins with Claude and the JUCE Framework
  • Why You Need an Idea — Not Just AI — to Build a Plugin
  • AI as a "Knowledgeable but Completely Blinkered Friend"
  • AAX, PACE Code Signing, and the Nightmare of Plugin UI
  • Board Games, Astronomy, and Life in Rural England
  • Why He Can't Imagine Living in LA Anymore
  • Working with Manager Frank McDonough — and What a Manager Actually Does
  • The Reality of Getting Paid by Major Labels (180-Day Cycles)

Matt's RANT!: 600 Episodes!

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Andrew Scheps
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #599 with Alex Newport – Three Decades of Production, a Studio in the Desert, Engineering at Tiny Telephone, and Why Unique Always Beats Good08 Jun 202601:31:07

Matt welcomes producer, engineer, and mixer Alex Newport for his first appearance on Working Class Audio. Alex grew up in the UK Midlands with few music resources, and found his way into production after his band got signed to a UK label with an upstream deal to Columbia, and ended up recording at Sawmills, a legendary residential studio on a tidal island at the tip of Cornwall. Working there with producer Colin Richardson changed everything. From there Alex spent decades moving between LA, San Francisco, and New York — engineering at Tiny Telephone, producing records for At the Drive-In, City and Colour, and many more — before eventually building his own residential studio in Joshua Tree, designed from the ground up to let bands show up and make records without distraction. The conversation covers production philosophy, surviving as a freelancer across three decades, why he intentionally avoids getting pigeonholed, and what really matters when designing a studio space.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Growing Up in the UK Midlands With Few Music Resources
  • The Band That Got Signed: Upstream Deal to Columbia Records
  • Recording at Sawmills — The Tidal Island Studio in Cornwall
  • Colin Richardson as a Life-Changing Producer
  • The Difference Between a Producer Who Listens and One Who Doesn't
  • Why Alex Was Initially Resistant to Having a Producer
  • What Colin Taught Him That He Still Uses Today — and What He Hated
  • The Shift From Being a Musician to Wanting to Be in the Studio
  • Moving to the US: From Arizona to LA to San Francisco to New York
  • First Impressions of LA — Where's the City Centre?
  • The Culture Shock of Going From the UK to California
  • Why Alex Prefers San Francisco Over LA
  • Tiny Telephone and John Vanderslice — Engineering as Education
  • Learning to Mic Instruments He'd Never Encountered Before
  • The Moment Budgets Started Collapsing Around 2004
  • Building a Studio in LA, Then New York, Then Realising It Was Madness
  • New York vs LA: Brutally Honest vs Relaxed and Open
  • Surviving as a Freelance Producer: The Feast or Famine Reality
  • Why He Intentionally Avoids Getting Pigeonholed as a Producer
  • Moving to Joshua Tree and Building a Residential Studio From Scratch
  • Designing the Studio From a Musician's Perspective, Not an Engineer's
  • The Vintage Trailer as Accommodation: Glamping, Not a Holiday Inn
  • High Ceilings That Cost an Extra $35,000
  • Good Coffee Is More Important Than the Gear in the Rack
  • The Sawmills Influence on the Joshua Tree Studio Concept
  • Philip Broussard, Daniel Lanois, and the Kingsway/Teatro Philosophy
  • What Alex Brings to the Table as a Producer: Objectivity and People Skills
  • The Sliding Scale Rate Philosophy: Money Follows Good Work
  • On Relationships, Touring, and Finding a Partner Who Gets It
  • Dual UK/US Citizenship and Thoughts on Moving Back to England

Matt's RANT!: AI and Its Uses

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Alex Newport
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #598 with Dante Fumo – Harmonic Content, Independent Film Sound, DIY Publishing, and Making a Living on Your Own Terms02 Jun 202601:05:56

In this return visit to Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back Dante Fumo — freelance sound designer, writer, and the creator behind Harmonic Content, a screen-printed audio zine now in its seventh issue. Dante talks about building a sustainable freelance life that spans independent film post-production, writing for Vintage King and Pro Sound Effects, and self-publishing a physical zine inspired by the Tape Op compilations he read as a college writing tutor. The conversation covers the realities of DIY publishing — screen printing, saddle-stitching zines at home, and the economics of Patreon — alongside the craft of mixing short films in Dolby Atmos, delivery specs for the festival circuit, building a sound library, and why low cost of living might be the most underrated career decision a freelancer can make.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • The Origin of Harmonic Content Zine
  • How Tape Op Inspired the Whole Thing
  • The Economics of Self-Publishing a Physical Zine
  • Screen Printing and DIY Production Workflow
  • Why Ink Cartridges Are a Scam (and What Dante Uses Instead)
  • Building a Sustainable Patreon as a Small Independent Creator
  • Balancing Freelance Writing, Sound Design, and Publishing
  • Writing for Vintage King and Pro Sound Effects
  • How Dante Gets Independent Film Clients — All Word of Mouth
  • The Life Cycle of an Indie Short Film: Festivals to YouTube
  • Mixing Everything in Atmos Even for Non-Atmos Deliverables
  • Netflix Home Entertainment Spec as a Loudness Baseline
  • Loudness for Short Films vs. Feature Films vs. Music
  • Calibrating Your Monitors With Pink Noise
  • Overhead Fold-Down Settings When Bouncing Atmos to Stereo
  • Sound Design vs. Mixing: What Dante Loves Most
  • Field Recording for Ambiences vs. Buying Libraries
  • SoundCue — A Free Sound Effects Organizing Tool from Pro Sound Effects
  • GDC Free Sound Library and Other Ways to Build a Collection for Free
  • George Vlad and Watson Wu — Field Recording Heroes
  • Tonebenders Podcast as the WCA of Post-Production Sound
  • Why Dante Stepped Back From Recording Everything Himself
  • The Case for Not Having All Your Eggs in One Basket
  • ADHD and Freelancing: Finding Work You Can Actually Stay Engaged With
  • Low Cost of Living as a Freelance Strategy
  • AES Nashville and the Press Pass Question
  • What the Next Five Years Look Like

Matt's RANT!: School

Discount Codes:

  • WCA25OFF — 25% off a zine at harmoniccontentzine.com

Links and Show Notes:


Credits:

  • Guest: Dante Fumo
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #597 with Tchad Blake, Dr. Will Sedley, Jack Rubinacci & Hazel Goedhart – Tinnitus Quest: Breaking the Silence on the Music Industry's Most Common Occupational Condition25 May 202601:48:09

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes a panel of four guests united by a common cause: Tinnitus Quest, a patient-driven nonprofit pushing to fund and accelerate tinnitus research. Tchad Blake — 7-time Grammy Award-winning producer, mixer, and engineer with credits including Paul Simon, Peter Gabriel, Paul McCartney, and Pearl Jam — opens up about living with tinnitus since age eight or nine, the result of childhood exposure to rifle fire, and how he has mixed some of the most acclaimed records of the past four decades with significant hearing loss in one ear. Neuroscientist and consultant neurologist Dr. Will Sedley of Newcastle University breaks down what the brain is actually doing when tinnitus occurs, from central gain theory to predictive coding, gating mechanisms, and why the brain's compensation strategies can misfire. Hazel Goedhart, co-founder and Executive Board Member at Tinnitus Quest, shares her own tinnitus journey and how it led her to leave a career in financial services and fundraise her own salary to work for the cause full-time. And Jack Rubinacci, musician, songwriter, and Head of PR at Tinnitus Quest, explains how the organization is working to change the narrative around tinnitus the same way the mental health conversation shifted over the past generation — because that narrative shift is what unlocks funding, and funding is what drives research.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • What Tinnitus Quest Is and Why It Was Founded
  • The Scale of the Problem: 750 Million People, Almost No Research Funding
  • Tchad's Tinnitus Since Age Eight or Nine: Childhood Rifle Fire
  • Mixing Iconic Records With Significant Hearing Loss
  • Tinnitus as a Potential Creative Superpower
  • How the Brain Compensates for Hearing Loss and Generates Phantom Sound
  • Central Gain Theory and Neural Noise Amplification
  • Synchrony: How Neurons Fire Together and Make Tinnitus Louder
  • Gating Mechanisms and Why Some People's Brains Filter Tinnitus Out
  • The Predictive Coding Model: Why Tinnitus Embeds Itself in the Brain
  • Hair Cell Damage vs. Synaptopathy: Two Different Types of Noise Trauma
  • Recruitment: A Frequency-Specific Amplification Phenomenon
  • Why Tinnitus and Hearing Loss Don't Always Correlate
  • Why Some People With Hearing Loss Never Get Tinnitus
  • Sudden Sensorineural Hearing Loss: A Medical Emergency
  • Tinnitus Spikes: What Causes Them and What the Evidence Says About Steroids
  • Tinnitus as a Canary in the Coal Mine for Stress and Overexposure
  • Fleeting Tinnitus: The Brief Episodes Most People Experience
  • Low-Frequency Tinnitus and "The Hum"
  • Musical Tinnitus and Musical Hallucinations
  • Who to See: ENT vs. Audiologist vs. Neurologist
  • CBT, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and Mindfulness for Tinnitus
  • Tchad's Personal Coping Strategies, Including Exposure Therapy and Harmonizing With the Ringing
  • The Role of Psilocybin and Psychedelics in Potential Tinnitus Treatment
  • Neural Plasticity, Synaptogenesis, and Why Psychedelics May Help
  • Stem Cell and Cochlear Regeneration Research
  • Is Tinnitus a Modern Problem? Pre- vs. Post-Industrial Noise Exposure
  • The Stigma Around Tinnitus in the Music Industry
  • How Bella Bathurst Connected Jack and Tchad
  • TQ's First Oxford Research Grant: Transcranial Ultrasound Stimulation
  • Why Patient-Driven Funding Moves Faster Than Institutional Funding
  • The Catch-22 of "Learn to Live With It" and How It Suppresses Research

Matt's RANT!: Hearing ProtectionLinks and Show Notes:
Credits:
  • Guests: Tchad Blake, Dr. Will Sedley, Jack Rubinacci, Hazel Goedhart
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #596 with Will Kennedy – Dolby Atmos Focus, Selling Recording Gear, Hidden Coffee Shops, and Mixing Rock in Surround18 May 202601:14:12

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer, mixer, and engineer Will Kennedy. Will shares an update on his journey since his last appearance, focusing on his partnership with Matt Wallace and their deep dive into immersive and Dolby Atmos mixing from their Los Angeles studio. They discuss the strategic decision to sell off their traditional recording gear, the evolution of the immersive audio market, and the amusing discovery of a hidden Starbucks inside a Jaguar dealership. The conversation also explores the unique, ongoing challenges of adapting rock and roll production techniques for the Atmos format.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Biking With Brad Wood
  • Human Powered Vehicles
  • Partnership With Matt Wallace
  • Dolby Atmos Mixing Focus
  • Los Angeles Studio Location
  • Horseless Carriage Diner
  • Jaguar Dealership Starbucks
  • Selling Traditional Recording Gear
  • Keeping Essential Overdub Setup
  • Offloading Full Band Tracking
  • Early Adopter Atmos Strategy
  • Becoming Premium Immersive Mixers
  • Dolby Atmos Market Correction
  • Navigating Cheap Atmos Mixes
  • Atmos In Modern Cars
  • Mixing Rock In Surround
  • Stereo Versus Immersive Techniques
  • Developing New Tracking Methods

Matt's RANT!: Think BiggerLinks and Show Notes:
Credits:
  • Guest: Will Kennedy
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

Video Interview

WCA #595 with Steve Kitch – Classical Roots, Sound On Sound, Supermarket Shifts, and Online Mastering Success11 May 202600:58:13

In this episode, Matt welcomes mastering engineer Steve Kitch. Steve shares his journey from early music programming on home keyboards and classical piano training to building a worldwide mastering practice from his studio in Devon, UK. They discuss the transition from transferring DAT tapes to CDs, being an early adopter of online file delivery, and the evolution of a professional audio career through self-taught exploration and technical curiosity.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Full Time Mastering
  • Devon Studio Location
  • Classical Piano Training
  • Early Keyboard Sequencers
  • HiFi Technical Upbringing
  • Sound On Sound
  • Self Taught Education
  • DAT Tape Transfers
  • Online Mastering Pioneer
  • Google AdWords Strategies
  • Supermarket Shift Work
  • Website Design Software
  • Global Client Reach
  • Digital Audio Evolution

Matt's RANT!: The Small ThingsLinks and Show Notes:
Credits:
  • Guest: Steve Kitch
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #594 with Amar Lal – Experimental Roots, Corporate Transitions, Mastering Room Acoustics, and Macro Sound05 May 202601:13:47

In this episode, Matt welcomes mastering engineer and artist Amar Lal of Oakland’s Macro Sound. Amar shares his journey from the New York DIY scene and touring with Big Ups to a corporate role at Sennheiser and his eventual return to independent studio ownership. They discuss the benefits of an all-digital mastering workflow, the "Active Listening Club" philosophy, and how Amar maintains career longevity through work-life balance and photography.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Mastering Engineer Roles
  2. Oakland Studio Location
  3. Shared Building Benefits
  4. Early Childhood Canada
  5. Childhood Piano Lessons
  6. Experimental Music Scene
  7. Circuit Bending Gear
  8. High School Recording
  9. New York Education
  10. Touring Big Ups
  11. Facing Career Burnout
  12. Corporate Sennheiser Experience
  13. Launching Macro Sound
  14. Home Studio Logistics
  15. Oakland Artistic Community
  16. All Digital Mastering
  17. Active Listening Club
  18. Balancing Personal Life
  19. Passion For Photography
  20. Artistic Practice Philosophy
  21. Mastering Room Acoustics
  22. Local Community Ties
  23. Remote Working Models
  24. Studio Business Logistics
  25. Auditory Sensitivity Issues

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Amar Lal’s Site: Macro Sound
  2. Band Reference: Big Ups
  3. Sennheiser
  4. Active Listening Club

Matt's RANT: Doing Try OutsCredits:
  1. Guest: Amar Lal
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #593 with Katie Marie Richards – Self-taught Foundations, Four-track Experiments, Blue Rock, and The Human Experience28 Apr 202601:15:58

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes producer, engineer, and multi-instrumentalist Katie Marie for a deep dive into her 30-year career journey, moving from a rural UK trailer to world-class studios. They discuss the transition from solo artistry to a supportive production role, the philosophy of professional growth, and maintaining a healthy mindset around the business of music.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Producer And Multi-instrumentalist Background
  2. Leaving School At Fifteen
  3. Self-taught Musical Foundations
  4. Early Four-track Recording Experiments
  5. Transitioning From Solo Artist
  6. Managing Performance Anxiety
  7. Relocating From Devon To Austin
  8. Mentorship At Blue Rock Studio
  9. Sharing Process Via Live Streams
  10. Transitioning To North Carolina
  11. Morning And Afternoon Life Stages
  12. Growing Wider Rather Than Taller
  13. Collaborating With Christie Lenée
  14. Overcoming A Poverty Mindset
  15. Charging Based On Value
  16. Selling The Human Experience
  17. Prioritizing Songs Over Gear
  18. Adapting To New Environments

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Katie Marie’s Site
  2. Blue Rock Studio
  3. Book Reference: You Are a Badass at Making Money by Jen Sincero

Matt's Rant: What IS possibleCredits:
  1. Guest: Katie Marie Richards
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #592 with Ronan Chris Murphy – Falling Trees, World Travel, Anchor Points, and Being a Respectful Human21 Apr 202601:13:50

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer, engineer, mixer Ronan Chris Murphy (King Crimson, Steve Morse, Terry Bozzio, Tony Levin) to talk about being a pro audio nomad, falling trees, and and anchor points.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • World Travel
  • Falling Trees
  • Language
  • Being a Respectful Human
  • Anchor POints
  • Debt

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Passion for AudioCredits:
  • Guest: Ronan Chris Murphy
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #591 with Tyrone "Cross Bone T" Harris – Curiosity and Learning, Building a Client Base, Health Challenges, Overcoming Obstacles, and The Importance of Small Wins13 Apr 202601:02:03

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes mixing and mastering engineer Tyrone "Cross Bone T" Harris who shares his journey from a young music enthusiast in London to a professional mixing and mastering engineer.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Musical Roots and Early Influences
  2. The Journey into Music Production
  3. Curiosity and Learning in Music
  4. Early Experiences with Technology
  5. First Steps in Radio and Education
  6. Navigating Challenges in Music Education
  7. Transitioning to Professional Environments
  8. Live Sound Experiences and Growth
  9. The Art of Live Sound Engineering
  10. Navigating the Music Industry as a Young Professional
  11. Health Challenges and Career Adaptation
  12. Transitioning to Home Studio Work
  13. Building a Client Base in a Niche Market
  14. Philosophy on Life and Overcoming Obstacles
  15. The Importance of Small Wins and Motivation

Links and Show Notes:

  1. CBT's Site

Matt's Rant: Sonic CitizensCredits:
  1. Guest: Tyrone "Cross Bone T" Harris
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #590 with Phillip Broussard –Gulf Coast, Kingsway, Teatro, Rick Rubin, and Prioritizing Vibe07 Apr 202601:18:19

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes producer/engineer/mixer and archivist, Phillip Broussard who has worked with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Slipknot, System of a Down, and many more

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Texas upbringing
  • Jobs in Gulf Coast refineries
  • First studio internships in Austin
  • Houston and Austin
  • Kingsway Studio in New Orleans
  • Prioritizing vibe over gear
  • Relocating to Los Angeles
  • Managing Teatro in Oxnard
  • Collaboration with Rick Rubin
  • Handling limited recording budgets
  • Skills in reading the room
  • Balancing career and family life
  • Negotiating rates and invoicing
  • Audio archiving and session restoration
  • Networking to find new music

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Inspiration and ImaginationCredits:
  • Guest: Phillip Broussard
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #589 with Mitch Easter – R.E.M., Drive-In Studio, Don Dixon, North Carolina, and Fidelatorium Recordings31 Mar 202601:22:14

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcome musician/songwriter/producer/engineer Mitch Easter known for his work on the early R.E.M. records as well as his work with the db's, Game Theory, and Marshal Crenshaw as well as his own band Let's Active.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Background and Upbringing
  • Early Interest in Recording
  • Drive-In Studio
  • Fidelatorium Recordings
  • Balancing Multiple Roles
  • Collaboration with Don Dixon
  • The Music Industry and the Indie Ecosystem
  • Influences and Inspirations
  • Views on Retirement

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Creating OpportunityCredits:
  • Guest: Mitch Easter
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #588 with Joe Costa– Ordering Lunch with William Shatner, Berklee School of Music, Mixing from Home, and Reading the Room23 Mar 202601:03:29

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes engineer/mixer Joe Costa who has worked with Ben Folds. Sara Bareilles, William Shatner and many more.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Ordering Lunch with William (Bill) Shatner
  • Working with Ben Folds
  • Mixing from Home
  • Moving to Nashville
  • Berklee School of Music
  • Reading the Room

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Know Your ValueCredits:
  • Guest: Joe Costa
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #587 with Willie Green – The Green House, Physical Media, Business Strategy, Daily Patterns, and Innovation17 Mar 202601:17:50

Producer, engineer, artist, and professor Willie Green returns to WCA to chat with Matt about about his new studio adventure and much more! Willie has worked with renowned artists such as Armand Hammer, The Roots, The Alchemist, and Wiz Khalifa.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. The Green House Expands!
  2. Physical Media
  3. Marketing Strategies for Creative Spaces
  4. Daily Patterns and Balancing Responsibilities
  5. Adapting to Client Needs and Studio Management
  6. Business Strategy
  7. Innovation

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Willie Green’s Website

Matt's Rant: Which music industry do you work in?Credits:
  1. Guest: Willie Green
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #586 with Richard Chycki Part 2– Management, Networking, Cultural Transition, Future Plans, and The Rush Connection10 Mar 202601:03:04

This is part 2 of a discussion Matt had with multi-platinum mixer and engineer Richard Chycki whose clients include such rock royalty as Rush, Aerosmith, Dream Theater, Skillet, Mick Jagger, Alice Cooper, Pink and many more.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Management
  • Networking: Building Relationships for Success
  • Cultural Transition: From Canada to the U.S. Music Scene
  • The Rush Connection: Networking and Opportunities
  • Navigating the World of Immersive Audio Technologies
  • Future Plans and Networking in Nashville

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Auto PilotCredits:
  • Guest: Richard Chycki
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #585 with Jade Alysse Berry – Passion for Music, Overcoming a Health Crisis, Navigating Industry Politics and Client Communication03 Mar 202600:55:32

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes mixing engineer, producer and composerJade Alysse Berry, whose path to mixing was sparked by a life‑changing health event and a deep love for music. Jade shares practical insights on creativity, collaboration, and setting clear boundaries with clients.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. How a health crisis redirected Jade’s career toward audio engineering
  2. Challenges and politics of the music industry
  3. Collaborative dynamics with partner Bob Horn
  4. The creative process of mixing
  5. Setting boundaries
  6. Understanding client expectations
  7. Effective communication

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Jade on Instagram

Matt's Rant: The Home StudioCredits:
  1. Guest: Jade Alysse Berry
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #584 with Tom Camuso – Preserving Les Paul's Legacy, Education, Los Angeles vs. New York, Cracking the Preservation Code, and Weather24 Feb 202601:04:50

Matt is joined by grammy winning engineer Tom Camuso who has worked with Lenny Kravitz, Blondie, Steve Earl as well as a number of commercial, television and film projects. Tom is also the Chief Engineer at The Les Paul Recording Studio in Holly wood.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Preserving Les Paul's Legacy
  • Los Angeles vs. New York
  • Cracking the Preservation Code
  • Weather
  • Education
  • Library of Congress

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Economic ReevaluationCredits:
  • Guest: Tom Camuso
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #583 with Richard Chycki Part 1– Networking, Finances, ATMOS, Learning from Major Artists, and Adapting to Technological Changes in Audio17 Feb 202601:14:44

Matt is joined by multi-platinum mixer and engineer Richard Chycki whose clients include such rock royalty as Rush, Aerosmith, Dream Theater, Skillet, Mick Jagger, Alice Cooper, Pink and many more.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

NAMM Experience

  • Current State of Immersive Audio
  • Moving to Nashville: Reasons and Plans
  • Early Musical Journey and Transition to Engineering
  • The Shift from Musician to Engineer
  • Adapting to Technological Changes in Audio
  • The Future of Atmos and Immersive Audio
  • Artist Reactions to Immersive Mixing
  • The Evolution of Atmos Technology
  • Learning from Major Artists
  • Navigating the Music Industry
  • Financial Strategies in Music Production
  • The Importance of Networking
  • Mixing Classic Records in Atmos

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: The ExpensesCredits:
  • Guest: Richard Chycki
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #582 with Joel Weldon Willis – Church to indie music, Freelancing, Grammy Nominations, Remote Mixing, and The Importance of Collaboration Over Competition09 Feb 202601:05:18

Matt welcomes Grammy Nominated producer /engineer/mixer Joel Weldon Willis.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Building a Home Studio
  2. Early Experiences in Music Production
  3. Transitioning to Freelance and Indie Music Scene
  4. Creative Approaches to Music Production
  5. Navigating Financial Challenges in the Studio
  6. Recording Techniques and Live Sessions
  7. Lessons Learned in the Studio
  8. Freelancing and Renting Studio Spaces
  9. Community and Collaboration in Music Production
  10. Balancing Promotion and Authenticity
  11. The Impact of Grammy Nominations
  12. Adapting to Client Needs and Communication
  13. Remote Mixing
  14. Handling Criticism and Professional Growth
  15. The Importance of Collaboration Over Competition

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Joel's Site

Matt's Rant: InspirationCredits:
  1. Guest: Joel Weldon WIllis
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #581 with Sanford Parker – Chicago Music Scene, Independent Artists, Managing Overhead, and Getting out of Florida.03 Feb 202600:58:41

Matt welcomes Producer /engineer/mixer and film composer Sanford Parker. As an artist he’s performed and released albums with extreme heavy and industrial bands like Black Cross Hotel, Corrections House, Mirrors for Psychic Warfare and Minsk. Throughout the years he’s collaborated with members of Sonic Youth, Ministry, Napalm Death and Neurosis as well as producing and mixing albums for Darkthrone, Voivod, Brutal Truth, Pelican, YOB, Hide, Youth Code, Wovenhand, Rwake, Local H and many others.

Takeaways

  1. Sanford opened his studio in March 2020, just before the pandemic.
  2. He prefers working with independent artists and punk music.
  3. Chicago's music scene is affordable compared to other major cities.
  4. Managing overhead is crucial for running a successful studio.
  5. Sanford transitioned to mixing in the box for efficiency.
  6. He values genuine relationships with artists over bureaucracy.
  7. The pandemic shifted his work focus back to mixing.
  8. The flexibility of working remotely with clients.
  9. Learning to navigate financial discussions with bands.
  10. Independent music often allows for quicker decision-making.

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Sanford's Site

Matt's Rant: Your JourneyCredits:
  1. Guest: Sanford Parker
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #580 with Steve Chadie – LIVE FROM NAMM 202627 Jan 202601:00:50

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back GRAMMY-winning recording engineer and producer Steve Chadie live from the AudioScape booth at NAMM 2026 to talk about recording bands. Steve has worked with WIllie Nelson, Los Lonely Boys, Wilco, and the Supersuckers.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Mic placement and monitoring.
  2. The bleed
  3. Band dynamics
  4. Food and energy levels
  5. Expectations
  6. Creative ruts.
  7. Being invisible
  8. Headphone mixes
  9. Less substance abuse

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Steve on WCA #245
  2. Steve on WCA #487
  3. Steve's Site

Matt's Rant: The PeopleCredits:
  1. Guest: Steve Chadie
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
  4. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  5. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #579 with Fran Cathcart – Studio Ownership, Herbie Hancock, Stress, and Moving to the Bay Area20 Jan 202601:22:59

Matt welcomes producer/engineer/composer Fran Cathcart. Fran having just moved to the Bay Area from New York recounts his journey in studio ownership, working with Herbie Hancock, and facing down serious challenges that would make most throw in the towel, yet he still keeps going.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Studio Ownership
  • Herbie Hancock
  • Early Digital Recording
  • Divorce
  • Covid
  • Getting Sued
  • Stress
  • Moving to the Bay Area

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Client CommunicationCredits:
  • Guest: Fran Cathcart
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #578 with Joe Caithness – Pro Audio Minimalism, Finding Balance, Decluttering, Embracing Whimsy, and The Bell Curve13 Jan 202601:37:11

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back Mastering Engineering Joe Caithness. Joe has worked on mastering the soundtrack music for games such as Borderlands, and Tekken, the soundtracks for the Netflix movie Close, bands such as Don Martin 3 and Palooka 5.

In this episode we discuss Pro Audio Minimalism.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Pro audio minimalism focuses on efficiency and workflow.
  • Post-pandemic, many have adapted to home studios.
  • Stripping down gear can lead to better productivity.
  • Quality of work is not determined by the amount of gear.
  • The bell curve illustrates the journey of audio engineers.
  • Social media can exacerbate gear obsession.
  • It's important to focus on skills rather than equipment.
  • Minimalism can reduce stress in the creative process.
  • Finding balance in audio engineering is crucial.
  • Personal interests outside of audio can influence spending. Being debt-free allows for better control over finances.
  • Intentional communication can streamline workflows and reduce confusion.
  • Minimalism in workflow can lead to increased efficiency.
  • Decluttering can help identify unnecessary subscriptions and expenses.
  • Applying minimalism to business practices can enhance focus and productivity.
  • The thrill of the hunt can lead to unnecessary clutter if not managed.
  • Intentional equipment purchases can prevent buyer's remorse.
  • Every purchase has a domino effect on workflow and finances.
  • Embracing whimsy can make minimalism enjoyable and fulfilling.
  • Sharing resources can benefit others and reduce personal clutter.

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Credits:
  • Guest: Joe Caithness
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #577 with Justin Gray – Immersive, Balancing Family Support, Belief In Your Work, Early Surround, & Being Engineer and Artist05 Jan 202601:15:32

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back Producer, Mixer & Mastering Engineer Justin Gray. Based in Toronto, Canada, Justin has worked on projects for Snoop Dogg, Brandy, Nicky Youre, Mother Mother, Arkells, Jamie Fine, Lola Brooke, Upsahl, and The Sheepdogs.

In this conversation, Justin Gray discusses his album 'Immersed', exploring the creative process, technical aspects of immersive audio, and the importance of community and collaboration in music production. He shares insights on funding, marketing strategies, and the role of social media in promoting his work. The discussion also touches on the challenges of balancing family life with artistic pursuits and the significance of believing in oneself as an artist.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Innovative immersive audio
  2. Early surround experiments
  3. Community-driven collaboration
  4. Canadian arts funding
  5. Value of physical media
  6. Social media promotion
  7. Impact of recognition
  8. Balancing family support
  9. Belief in the work
  10. Engineer and artist

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Justin's Site
  2. Links to all streaming Platforms
  3. Band Camp
  4. Immersive Audio Album
  5. Justin on WCA #451

Matt's Rant: Forming Your Own BubbleCredits:
  1. Guest: Justin Gray
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #576 with Alan Evans – Health, Creativity, Reflections, Client Interactions, and 202630 Dec 202501:17:53

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer, engineer, mixer, multi-instrumentalist, singer and, songwriter, Alan Evans. Alan is of course well known as a member of his band Soulive. He's also been a past guest on WCA #133 and 328.

Matt Boudreau and Alan Evans reflect on the past year and share insights on creativity, health, and the music industry. They discuss the importance of recharging creatively, embracing technology, and maintaining a healthy lifestyle to ensure longevity in their careers. The duo also emphasizes the significance of simplicity in music production, the role of album artwork, and the power of community and connection in fostering creativity. As they look ahead to 2026, they express excitement for new projects and the journey of self-discovery in their artistic endeavors.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Reflections on the past year
  • Creativity and staying inspired
  • Recharging creatively
  • Health, wellness, and career longevity
  • Simplicity in music production
  • The role and value of album artwork
  • Community and connection as creative fuel
  • Looking ahead to 2026
  • New projects on the horizon
  • Self-discovery through artistic work

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: What's Inspiring MeCredits:
  • Guest: Alan Evans
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #575 with Michael Beinhorn – Remote Production, Artist Development, Risk Taking, High-End Listening, and Unique Voices21 Dec 202501:39:14

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer Michael Beinhorn who has worked with The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Soundgarden, Herbie Hancock, Korn, Marilyn Manson, Weezer, Ozzy Osbourne, Hole, Cuco, Aerosmith & Violent Femmes. Michael originally appeared on WCA #029 back in 2015.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Music production
  • Remote production
  • Pre-production
  • Music critique
  • Mainstream music
  • AI in music
  • Unique voices
  • Music industry
  • Creativity in music
  • Music technology
  • Artist development
  • Risk-taking in music
  • Music analysis
  • Recording industry
  • Listening setup
  • Collaboration

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Auto PilotCredits:
  • Guest: Michael Beinhorn
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #574 with Stephen DeAcutis –Owning Your Time, Getting It Right At The Source, Solving Audio Problems, and Performing Live16 Dec 202501:05:56

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes mixer, producer, engineer, writer, and performer Stephen DeAcutis. Stephen has worked with Vanilla Fudge, Gladys Knight, Travers and Appice, Corey Glover, and Cyndi Lauper.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Owning Your Time
  • Embracing Old and New
  • Celebrating the New Generation
  • Solving Audio Problems
  • Working From Home
  • Communicating with Musicians
  • Getting It Right At The Source
  • Performing Live

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Staying PositiveCredits:
  • Guest: Stephen DeAcutis
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #573 with Natalie Bibby – AIR Studios, Direct to Disc, Attended Sessions, MPG, and Connecting with Others09 Dec 202501:11:20

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes mastering and lathe cutting engineer Natalie Bibby who works at AIR Studios in the U.K.. Natalie has worked with Kraftwerk, Bring Me The Horizon, Lola Young, Jimmy Eat World, The Vaccines, Lewis Capaldi, GIRLI, and CATTYShe's also led a world-class mastering workshop at Peter Gabriel’s Real World Studios, UK.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Early musical influences
  • Starting in recording & mixing
  • University training & goals
  • Metropolis internship lessons
  • Moving into mastering
  • Live cuts & direct-to-disc
  • Half-speed mastering overview
  • Learning & mentorship insights
  • AIR Studios
  • Value of attended sessions
  • Managing client expectations
  • Hybrid mastering workflows
  • How mastering engineers listen
  • Common mixing problems
  • Music Producers Guild
  • Challenges for studios
  • AIR’s cutting reputation
  • Vinyl cutting process
  • Mastering vs. cutting
  • American mastering mystique

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: How we present ourselvesCredits:
  • Guest: Natalie Bibby
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #572 with Alex Crescioni - Extreme Metal, Techniques, Clients, Survival, and Letting Go.02 Dec 202501:14:25

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back guitarist, producer, and mixing/mastering engineer Alex Crescioni to talk about Extreme Metal production. Alex is known for his work with Burton C. Bell, Deverauxx, and Siglos.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Extreme Metal
  • Techniques
  • Sounds
  • Room Tone
  • Business
  • Survival
  • Letting Go

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Spread the WorkCredits:
  • Guest: Alex Crescioni
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #571 with Don Setaro –DEEP DIVE - Gary Young Hospital For The Chemically Insane24 Nov 202501:01:47

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer/engineer/mixer and record label owner Don Setaro. Matt and Don get into a deep dive discussion of the re-issue process for former Pavement drummer, Gary Young's album "Hospital For The Chemically Insane". Former WCA guests Dan Johnson and Justin Perkins chime in to talk about their role in the process. Enjoy.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Pavement
  • Gary Young
  • Detective Work
  • Restoration
  • Tape Rescue
  • Mastering from CD
  • Re- Issue
  • Keeping the Vibe

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: StructureCredits:
  • Guest: Don Setaro /Dan Johnson/Justin Perkins
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #570 with Ken Sluiter – A deep dive into stereo rebuilds for Atmos mixing.18 Nov 202501:24:47

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer/engineer and mixer Ken Sluiter to delve into the intricate process of stereo rebuilds for Atmos mixing. They discuss the challenges of finding and organizing original material, the importance of matching to comparison masters, and the unique aspects of each project. Ken shares insights on the ingestion process, the role of research in understanding original recordings, and the potential of AI tools in audio restoration. The discussion also touches on the future of mixing and the evolving landscape of music production. Enjoy.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Stereo rebuilds for Atmos mixing.
  2. The process involves gathering original assets and recreating mixes.
  3. Each project is unique, requiring a tailored approach.
  4. Matching to a comparison master is crucial for accuracy.
  5. Researching the original recording can provide valuable insights.
  6. AI tools can assist in stem separation but have limitations.
  7. Finalizing mixes involves careful listening and adjustments.
  8. The future of audio mixing may involve more AI and technology.
  9. Understanding the original recording process is key to successful rebuilds.

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Ken on WCA #166

Matt's Rant: Music Expo/AES/NAMMCredits:
  1. Guest: Ken Sluiter
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #569 with Dan Johnson & Catherine Vericolli – Audio Restoration/Archive Deep Dive11 Nov 202501:09:18

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back Dan Johnson of Audio Archiving Services and Catherine Vericolli of Central Audio Archiving to do a deep dive into the world of audio archiving, preservation, and restoration.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Analog Tapes
  • Analog Machines
  • Modular Digital Multitracks
  • DAT Machines
  • DASH Machines
  • Pro Digi
  • Retrospect
  • Mezzo

Links and Show Notes:

Links to Dan


Links to Catherine


Matt's Rant: This AI ThingCredits:
  • Guest: Dan Johnson & Catherine Vericolli
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #568 with John Cuniberti – OneMIc, Dynamics, Acoustics, Placement, and 2 Tracks04 Nov 202501:47:04

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back John Cuniberti who produces, engineers, mixes and masters records for many artists including most notably Joe Satriani, Sammy Hagar, The Dead Kennedys, and Chicken Foot. John originally appeared WCA #005 back in 2014 and returns to do a deep dive into his OneMic recording concept. -Enjoy

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. OneMic Series
  2. Dynamics
  3. Acoustics
  4. Placement
  5. Tempo
  6. 2 Track as Multi-Track
  7. Ribbon Mics

Links and Show Notes:
  1. OneMIc on YouTube
  2. John's Site
  3. Shiny Eyes Studio

Matt's Rant: Focus of Your AttentionCredits:
  1. Guest: John Cuniberti
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #567 with Gena Johnson – Listening to Artists, Keeping Overhead Low, Career Champions, and Glitter Walls27 Oct 202501:07:28

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Grammy Winning producer/engineer/mixer Gena Johnson who has worked with Chris Stapleton, Jason Isbell, Brandi Carlile, and John Prine. Enjoy.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Leave your ego at the door
  2. Make people feel comfortable
  3. Listen to the artist
  4. Labels are business partners
  5. Word of mouth work
  6. Feminine energy in production
  7. Women in the industry
  8. Classical voice training for 12 years
  9. Internship at Welcome 1979
  10. Learned tape machines and soldering
  11. Assisting at Nashville studios
  12. First number one record
  13. Working at RCA Studio A
  14. Rewiring Studio A intensively
  15. Mentor Michael Wagner's influence
  16. Champions Vance Powell and Daryl Thorp
  17. Walls painted with glitter
  18. Keep overhead low
  19. Good attorney and manager combination

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Gena's Website
  2. Gena on Instagram
  3. Vance Powell on WCA
  4. Matt Ross-Spang on WCA
  5. Darrel Thorpe on WCA

Matt's Rant: Sonic Intrusion RevisitedCredits:
  1. Guest: Gena Johnson
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #566 with Mike Blodgett – Isolated Ground, Ground Rods, Isolation Transformers, Power Conditioners, and Electrical Safety20 Oct 202500:55:59

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back engineer/producer electrician, Mike Blodgett to discuss electricity and pro audio! Enjoy.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  1. Isolated Grounds
  2. Isolation Transformers
  3. Ground Rods
  4. Power Conditioners
  5. Apartment Power
  6. Home Studio Power
  7. Electrical Safety

Links and Show Notes:
  1. Mike on WCA #348

Matt's Rant: How You ListenCredits:
  1. Guest: Mike Blodgett
  2. Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  3. WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  4. The Voice: Chuck Smith

WCA #565 with Hans-Martin Buff – Tearjerkers, Peter Gabriel, Real World, Binaural, and ATMOS14 Oct 202501:20:34

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back engineer/producer and 3D audio geek, Hans-Martin Buff to discuss mixing Peter Gabriel's I/O as well as his own project Tearjerkers.

In This Episode, We Discuss:
  • Tearjerkers
  • Peter Gabriel
  • Real Word Studios
  • Binaural Mixing
  • ATMOS
  • Format Haters

Links and Show Notes:
Matt's Rant: Focused DiscussionCredits:
  • Guest: Hans-Martin Buff
  • Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
  • WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
  • The Voice: Chuck Smith

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