Explorez tous les épisodes du podcast Two PiGs in a Pod
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| Two PiGs in a Pod - Patrick Dean | 03 Jun 2026 | 00:24:42 | |
In this episode, George is joined by Patrick Dean, Sales Director at Clayton Glass. Patrick reflects on his 22-year career in the glazing sector, discussing the biggest influences on his journey, the lessons he has learned along the way, and the key skills needed to succeed in sales. The conversation then shifts to Clayton Glass’ newly launched Triple28. Patrick explains what Triple28 and the wider Thin Triples movement are all about, why they have become such a major talking point across the glazing industry in 2026, and the benefits they can bring to both installers and homeowners. Patrick also shares some of his proudest achievements from his time in the industry, reveals how he stays motivated after more than two decades in the sector, and takes on the popular industry This or That? round. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Ash Pearson | 22 May 2026 | 00:48:04 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, we sit down with Ash Pearson, National Sales Manager at Jack Aluminium, to talk about his journey into the glazing industry and life within a family-run business. Ash shares how he went from working as a personal trainer in Spain to joining Jack Aluminium, the company founded by his dad, Jeff Pearson, and reflects on the challenges of learning the technical side of the sector during his early years in the role, along with being 'the boss's son'. Now more than 12 years into his career at Jack Aluminium, Ash discusses how his perception of the industry has evolved, the opportunities the sector offers, and why he’s passionate about the future of the company. We also chat about Jack Aluminium’s plans for FIT Show 2027, including why the company has chosen to exhibit, what visitors can expect to see on the stand, and what the team hopes to achieve from the event. Plus, Ash takes on our quick-fire This or That round to round off the episode. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Matt Thomas | 22 Apr 2026 | 00:23:20 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Haffner MD and Owner, Matt Thomas, for a proper deep dive into his journey through the glazing industry. Matt shares how it all began, from growing up around the business with his dad Dave, to heading off down a completely different path training to become a barrister, before eventually finding his way into the industry. What followed was a quick rise through the ranks, from working on second-hand machines, to sales, to working side-by-side with his dad, helping to grow the business, and ultimately taking over the reins as Managing Director four years ago. He opens up about the realities of working with family, the pressures and pride that come with it, and how that family-first culture still runs right through Haffner today. There are some great stories along the way too, including what it meant to deliver one of the biggest stands at FIT Show 2025 and how moments like that reflect just how far the business has come. Matt also talks PiGs, and why he was the one who first suggested taking the network event over to Belfast. He explains what makes the city such a brilliant destination, what the industry can expect from the event, and throws in a few top recommendations for where to go while you’re there. And, of course, no episode would be complete without putting Matt through the This or That round. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Lee Manton | 09 Apr 2026 | 00:29:05 | |
In this week’s episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Lee Manton of R W Simon for a wide-ranging chat covering both career and industry insight. With more than 25 years in the glazing sector, Lee shares his journey from apprentice to General Manager, reflecting on the experiences, people and moments that have shaped his path along the way. He also gives an overview of R W Simon, exploring the company’s 70-year history and where it sits in today’s market, before looking ahead to what’s next, including plans for FIT Show 2027. The conversation then turns to trickle vents and the wider topic of ventilation in homes. Lee explains why they remain such an important feature, challenges some of the resistance from manufacturers and homeowners, and makes the case for seeing them as a genuine value-add rather than an inconvenience. To round things off, Lee takes on the This or That? quick-fire round, revealing whether he’s an early starter or a late finisher, a risk taker or a risk manager, and plenty more besides. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Steve Hutchinson | 26 Mar 2026 | 00:28:49 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with Steve Hutchinson, General Manager of Belgian hardware manufacturer Sobinco. With more than 20 years in the window and door sector, Steve shares the story of his career journey, from his early days in the industry through to his leadership role at one of Europe’s most respected hardware brands. The conversation covers the moments that shaped him, the people who influenced his path, and how both he and Sobinco have evolved alongside a changing and increasingly innovative market. Steve also gives his take on what lies ahead, from future opportunities in the sector to how the business is positioning itself for continued growth. Expect plenty of insight, a few great stories along the way, and a genuine look behind the scenes of a long-standing career in glazing. And to round things off, Steve takes on the This or That? round, where we learn more about the man behind the role, from his love of live music to whether he thrives on routine or prefers to mix things up. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Josh Goodwin | 13 Mar 2026 | 00:19:35 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Josh Goodwin from KallKwik Machinery. Josh talks about his journey in the glazing industry, starting as an engineering apprentice and learning the trade from the ground up. He shares how that path eventually led him to KallKwik, where he is now part owner, along with some of the key moments that have shaped his career. The conversation also looks at the skills needed to succeed in the sector and the growing role of technology in machinery and manufacturing. Josh explains what excites him most about the future of KallKwik, including how AI and training tools could help companies diagnose and fix machinery issues faster and more effectively. To finish, Josh takes part in our This or That round as we get to know him a little better. Tune in now. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Danny Creese | 26 Feb 2026 | 00:32:05 | |
In this episode, George sits down with Danny Creese, Director of Enjoy The View Glazing and 1st Folding Sliding Doors, for an honest and insightful conversation about life in the glazing sector. With 30 years in the industry, Danny shares his journey from starting out as an installer in Devon to building and leading his own business in London. He reflects on the lessons learned along the way, the importance of customer service, and the realities of running a company for more than two decades. Danny opens up about the highs and lows of business ownership, the challenges that shaped him, and some truly memorable moments from his career. He also discusses his long standing relationship with Origin Global and working closely with CEO Neil Ginger, a partnership that continues today. The conversation also explores the launch of Enjoy The View Glazing’s new London showroom, why the recent rebrand initially gave him doubts, and how he was persuaded it was the right move. To round things off, Danny takes on the This or That quick fire round, giving listeners a more personal glimpse behind this successful business leader. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Rebecca Clayton | 12 Feb 2026 | 00:31:00 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with Rebecca Clayton, Communications and Marketing Director at IQ Glass, to explore a career journey that is anything but ordinary. Rebecca originally applied for a receptionist and office manager role, only to be handed a technical field sales position instead. Thrown in at the deep end, she learned fast, building her knowledge of products, projects and the wider glazing sector through hands-on experience and determination. She reflects on being the first woman in the company, carving out her place in a male-dominated environment, and progressing all the way to the senior leadership team. It is an honest conversation about ambition, resilience and why visible career pathways matter for women entering the sector today. Plus, Rebecca steps up to the PiGs “This or That” challenge. Early starter or late finisher? City break or countryside escape? Risk taker or risk manager? And the big one… coffee or tea? Find out all the answers by watching this great episode! | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Chris Burrows | 29 Jan 2026 | 00:29:22 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George is joined by the NEW Managing Director of Vista Panels, Chris Burrows! Chris takes on a journey of his career within the glazing sector, from starting off in telesales, right the way up to joining Vista Panels, part of the Eurocell brand, and becoming MD. Chris discusses who has helped shape his career, how the company has evolved over the years, with it last year celebrating its 30th anniversary, and what distinguishes it in the market. He also explains what excites him most about leading Vista Panels into its next chapter. Chris also takes part in our This or That round, providing quick fire answers to all the questions George can throw at him. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Shelforce's Howard Trotter | 15 Jan 2026 | 00:36:17 | |
We are back for series three of Two PiGs in a Pod, and we are kicking things off with a standout guest. Host George is joined by Howard Trotter, Business Manager at Birmingham-based PVC-U window and door manufacturer and installer Shelforce. In this episode, Howard shares his journey from life in the Navy, through working with timber windows, to spending 13 hugely successful years at Shelforce, helping to transform the business and drive award-winning performance. Howard also talks openly about what makes Shelforce different. With 75 percent of its workforce made up of people with disabilities, he explains why the company’s focus is on being recognised first and foremost as a high-performing, successful business, not defined by who it employs. To wrap things up, Howard steps into our brand-new This or That round, answering quick-fire questions at pace. Expect honest, instinctive answers to topics like coffee or tea, risk taker or risk manager, and whether he is more of a listener or a talker. A great conversation to launch the new series, packed with insight, experience and a few surprises along the way. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - PiGs' Year in Review 2025 with Sarah and George | 18 Dec 2025 | 00:29:39 | |
For the final episode of Two PiGs in a Pod for 2025, host George is joined by the one and only “Sty Master” herself, Sarah Ball, for a feel good, reflective, and festive looking conversation to close out the year. In this special end of year episode, George and Sarah look back on what has made 2025 such a standout year for PiGs. From unforgettable moments and standout events and other highlights, they share why this year has felt particularly positive for PiGs and its community. Their conversation also shines a spotlight on the people who have helped make 2025 such a success. From supporters and readers, to familiar faces across the industry that have appeared on the podcast, George and Sarah discuss the individuals and teams who have played a key role in making PiGs what it is today. Looking ahead, they also discuss what’s coming next, sharing their excitement for 2026, teasing what listeners can look forward to in the year ahead, including new ideas, events, and ambitions for PiGs. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Gary Morton | 05 Dec 2025 | 00:54:55 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, we sit down exclusively with one of the glazing sector's most recognisable figures, Gary Morton from Central Window Systems and GM Fundraising. This is a rare chance to hear the inside story behind his 30 plus years in the industry, from an unexpected start in the industry, to all the highs, lows and unforgettable moments that shaped his journey. We dive into Gary's incredible work as founder of GM Fundraising, an organisation that has raised more than £2.5 million for many charities since 1995. He talks about how it all began, the milestone fundraising events that became his and industry favourites, and what it feels like to step back after three decades, while continuing his involvement as a Hope House Trustee. There is plenty of insight, inspiration and a few surprises along the way. Gary also takes on our Quick Fire Question Round, revealing his favourite things outside of work, go to food choices and much more. A must-listen conversation with someone who has helped shape the sector, and has touched the lives of so many through leadership, business and fundraising. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Sam Nuckey and Sarah Binns | 20 Nov 2025 | 00:45:22 | |
Discover the inspiring story behind Window Ware’s 2022 Management Buy Out (MBO) in this brand new episode of Two PiGs in a Pod! Host George Lewis sits down with Window Ware Co-Owners — Managing Director Sam Nuckey and Customer Operations & Marketing Director Sarah Binns — for an unmissable deep dive into leadership, culture, and the future of one of the UK’s most respected fenestration businesses. Sam and Sarah share their career journeys through the glazing and hardware sector, how they first joined Window Ware, and the pivotal moment the opportunity for an MBO arose. They reveal the challenges, breakthroughs, and pride that came with becoming local people owning a local company, as they mark three years since the acquisition and look ahead to exciting new investments and growth plans. The conversation also takes a personal turn as Sam talks about taking on PiGs’ “Machu PiGchu” charity challenge — from nerves and motivation to why fundraising for Harry’s Pals means so much. Plus, don’t miss our fan-favourite quick-fire round, where Sam and Sarah reveal their favourite foods, the things they can’t live without, and who they’d swap roles with for a day at Window Ware! If you’re interested in business leadership, MBO success stories, fenestration industry insights, or simply love hearing from the people shaping our sector, this is the episode for you. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Richard Hammond | 06 Nov 2025 | 00:30:23 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with Richard Hammond, Sales Director at Universal Trade Frames, to uncover his journey through the glazing and fenestration industry. From starting out as a young door-to-door salesman to leaving the industry to gain international experience in project management in South Africa, Richard shares the twists and turns that brought him back to the UK glazing sector in 2006 with Mila, and eventually to his current leadership role. Richard dives into: - The skills and strategies required to succeed as a Sales Director in the glazing and window industry - Highlights from FIT Show 2025 and the company’s latest achievements - Inspirational moments and people who have shaped his career - What it means to be recognised by the industry, after Universal's G-Award nomination - Future plans for both his career and Universal Trade Frames Plus, Richard takes part in our fun quickfire questions, sharing his loves for music, family, and pizza, and revealing who he’d swap roles with for a day. All this plus much more! | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - FENSA's Sam Davies | 23 Oct 2025 | 00:38:03 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with FENSA Technical Manager, Sam Davies. With more than 23 years in the fenestration and glazing industry, Sam shares his career journey — from starting out as a window installer after following a friend into the trade, to working at RISA on inspection services, and now leading the technical team at FENSA. Sam discusses his day-to-day role, the common challenges faced by installers, and the support and guidance FENSA provides to help businesses stay compliant and raise standards. He also talks about the upcoming Building Regulation changes, why he sees them as a real opportunity to improve quality across the industry, and how FENSA is helping installers prepare for what’s ahead. Finally, Sam takes on our quick-fire questions, revealing his love of football (and Aston Villa!), his favourite food, and who he’d swap roles with for a day at FENSA. Listen now for insight, advice, and a behind-the-scenes look at FENSA’s role in shaping the future of the glazing industry. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Dr Indy Rama | 10 Oct 2025 | 00:33:32 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George Lewis sits down with Dr. Indy Rama, Operations Director at Bloomsbury Glass, to uncover his extraordinary journey from medicine to the glazing industry. Indy shares how he went from working as a hospital doctor and GP to joining the family glazing business, where he now plays a key role in its operations—all while still practising as a GP. He reveals the skills and mindset he’s transferred from medicine to manufacturing, the challenges and rewards of juggling two careers, and what the future holds for Bloomsbury Glass. Plus, in our Quick Fire Round, Indy answers fun and personal questions — from his favourite meal to the best career advice he’s ever received. If you’re interested in inspiring career stories, family businesses, or the human side of the glazing sector, this episode is a must-watch. Listen now to hear: -How Indy transitioned from doctor to glazing professional -What he’s learned about leadership and balance -The most memorable moments from his time at Bloomsbury Glass | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Mike Fagg | 25 Sep 2025 | 00:22:54 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George sits down with Mike Fagg, Managing Director of First Home Improvements and Director of SevenDay Windows. With a glazing career that began in 1989 – including two ventures into the oil and gas industry – Mike shares his journey back to the home improvements sector and into his current role, leading brands such as First Home Improvements, SevenDay Windows, and Universal Composite Doors. Mike discusses: -What makes each brand unique and how they complement one another in the windows and doors market -The challenges and opportunities of managing multiple glazing industry companies - How customer service is at the heart of the business and why homeowner buying habits are changing Plus, Mike takes part in our quick-fire round, revealing his love for Norwich City FC, the one thing he can’t live without, and the inspirational people who have shaped his career in home improvements. Whether you’re in the glazing sector, or the wider construction sector, work with double glazing and composite doors, or just want insights from a business leader, this episode is packed with value. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Richard Diliberto | 11 Sep 2025 | 00:20:01 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with Richard Diliberto, Sales Director at Comp Door. Richard shares his journey into the glazing sector (one he entered deliberately!), before rising through the ranks and becoming a founding member of Comp Door. He reveals the vision behind starting the company, what sets it apart in the industry, and some standout moments from its first four years. As a regular PiGs event attendee and proud annual sponsor, Richard also talks about why he values the PiGs community, what makes the events unmissable, and why Comp Door is committed to supporting it. Plus, don’t miss the quickfire round, where Richard opens up about his love of pasta, the one thing he can’t live without, and why face-to-face conversations always win. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - UAP's David Jennings | 28 Aug 2025 | 00:38:40 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George Lewis EXCLUSIVELY sits down with David Jennings, CEO of UAP Group, for an inspiring and unmissable conversation. From starting out in the board game industry to building one of the UK’s leading hardware suppliers, David shares the surprising story of how a chance chat with his neighbour sparked the creation of UAP. What you’ll hear in this episode: • How UAP grew from an idea into a major industry player • David’s proudest moments, inspirations, and lessons learned along the way • The inside story behind UAP’s acquisition by Allegion – what it means for the future of the business • Advice he’d give to his younger self (and anyone building a career in the sector) • A quickfire round with fun insights, including the one thing David can’t live without. If you’re interested in entrepreneurship, leadership, or the glazing and hardware sector, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more conversations with industry leaders and well known figures from across the glazing sector. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Kevin Richards | 14 Aug 2025 | 00:23:12 | |
Join host George in this episode as he sits down with Kevin Richards, a veteran of the glazing sector with over 30 years in the industry, and the founder of his brand-new venture, Lumin Consultancy. Kevin takes us on a journey through three decades in fenestration, sharing the highs, the challenges, and the biggest changes he’s witnessed along the way. From his early days in the sector to making the leap into running his own consultancy, his story is packed with insight and inspiration. We also dive into Kevin’s advice for newcomers to glazing, the essential skills and qualities needed to thrive, and what still fuels his passion for the industry after all these years. Plus...it wouldn’t be Two PiGs in a Pod without our quickfire round! Kevin reveals his ultimate comfort food, his work style, and the one thing he simply can’t live without. So if you’re in the glazing industry, or just love a good career story, this is one for you. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Stuga's Ed Williams | 31 Jul 2025 | 00:35:47 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George is joined by the Managing Director of Stuga Machinery, Ed Williams. Ed discusses his love of engineering after orignally wanting to be a professional rugby, his three years leading Stuga Machinery after a 25-year career within pharmaceuticals and food technology, and the evolution of machinery within the glazing sector. Ed also exclusively provides an update on the current situation regarding Stuga's parent company, Sturtz Group, after it recently started insolvency proceedings, and his joy at agreeing to be part of the 'Machu PiGchu' charity trek for PiGs' Charity of the Year, Harry's Pals. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - David Applegate | 17 Jul 2025 | 00:28:55 | |
This week on Two PiGs in a Pod, host George Lewis is joined by David Applegate, Co-Owner of Help 2 Buy Windows. David talks about his journey into the glazing industry and how Help 2 Buy Windows was founded to make energy-efficient windows and doors more accessible through grant support. From standout projects to overcoming challenges, David gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how the business has grown, and where it’s headed next. We also put him through our quickfire question round, where he reveals what he can’t live without, his favourite way to unwind, and the best career advice he’s ever received. To find out more about becoming a partner, visit: https://bit.ly/h2b-become-a-partner-PiGs | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Chris Beck | 03 Jul 2025 | 00:25:17 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, we sit down with Chris Beck, Editor of Glass and Glazing Products (GGP) magazine and content lead for the Glazing Summit. Chris shares his journey through publishing, from editing titles in healthcare, country music, and manufacturing, to leading one of the glazing industry’s key publications. He reflects on how the editor’s role has evolved, especially with the rise of digital platforms. We also look ahead to the Glazing Summit 2025, taking place on 9 October at the Coventry Building Society Arena. Chris reveals what makes the event a must-attend for the industry, some standout moments from last year's event, and what to expect from this year’s agenda. And stick around to the end for our Quickfire Question round, where Chris shares his favourite off-duty activities, his go-to emoji at work, and how he’d describe his work style. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - GAP's Chris Hall | 19 Jun 2025 | 00:31:23 | |
In this milestone episode, we’re joined by Chris Hall, Marketing Manager at GAP Limited, as he celebrates an incredible 20 years with the company. Chris takes us back to where it all started, his first impressions of the glazing industry, what drew him in, and the early days that shaped his journey. From standout moments and influential mentors, to the lessons he’d pass on to his younger self (if only he had a time machine), Chris shares the highs, the learnings, and everything in between. Plus, he faces our legendary quick fire round, revealing the one thing he can’t live without, his go-to hobbies outside of work, and the best career advice he’s ever been given. If you’re in the glazing world, or just love a good career story, this is one not to miss! | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod at FIT Show 2025 - Barry Halpin of UAP | 05 Jun 2025 | 00:11:54 | |
In this episode, recorded live at FIT Show 2025, host George is joined by industry veteran, and Group Sales Director of UAP, Barry Halpin. Barry discusses his 25-year career in the industry, ending up in it by chance having picked up a local newspaper after just being made redundant from his role as a spray painter within the engineering sector. Barry also discusses smart technology hardware, which is becoming more readily available and requested by homeowners, how the glazing sector looks from his point of view, and potential future trends and plans for UAP. He also takes part in our quickfire question round, providing his favourite place to visit, favourite UAP product, last thing he Googled, and much more. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod at the FIT Show: Greg Du-feu | 22 May 2025 | 00:14:40 | |
In this episode, host George sits down with Greg Du-feu of Dufeu IT Solutions, recorded LIVE at FIT Show 2025! Greg discusses how he first entered the glazing sector 18 years ago, his first impressions of it, and the trends he has seen within IT in glazing. He also discusses Artificial Intelligence, automation and cyber security, and their growing presence within the industry. Greg also looks into his crystal ball and provides listeners with what he feels the future of the glazing sector looks like, and top tips to futureproof your company. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod at the FIT Show 2025 - Handlebar Heroes | 08 May 2025 | 00:10:22 | |
Recorded live at the FIT Show 2025, host George speaks to the Handlebar Heroes, a team including Made for Trade's Leigh Greenwood and Chris Wann, MACO UK's Gareth "Gaz" Turner and Specialist Building Distribution's (SBD) Ashley Parkinson. The Handlebar Heroes team speak about their upcoming challenge, where they will be cycling 966 miles in just eight days from Lands End to John O'Groats to raise money for two charities, Cancer Research UK and Andy's Man Club. The team discuss how the challenge came about, their preparations for the ride, and what they are most looking forward to. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Andy Ball | 24 Apr 2025 | 00:32:03 | |
Unlock insider expertise in glazing and joinery with Andy Ball, Founder Partner of The Joinery Network (TJN)! In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, Andy shares his journey—from honing his skills at Profile 22, Synseal, and the Epwin Group to co‑founding his own marketing agency with Sarah Ball. Discover how his passion for sustainable products led him to create TJN, and get a sneak peek at his vision for the network - including plans for FIT Show 2025. 🎧 What You’ll Learn
Plus lots more! | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Emerald Windows and Doors | 10 Apr 2025 | 00:30:30 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Shauna Brett and the GGP Installer Award Rising Star award winner, Lee Brett from Emerald Windows and Doors – a family-run glazing business based in Swindon. Lee, a Marketing Apprentice, and Shauna, the company’s Marketing Manager, share their fresh perspectives on the glazing and fenestration industry. From launching a TikTok channel to challenging industry norms, they’re on a mission to stand out and connect with a new generation of homeowners. 🔍 Topics covered:
And they take part in our fun quickfire round, including their favorite emoji, office snack, and more! 🏆 Hear from one of this year’s GGP Installer Awards winners and get inspired by the next generation of talent in the home improvement sector. 🔔 Subscribe for more conversations from the glazing and fenestration world! #GlazingIndustry #WindowInstallers #EmeraldWindows #Fenestration #MarketingInTrades #TikTokForBusiness #WomenInTrades #GGPInstallerAwards #TwoPiGsInAPod #Podcast #HomeImprovement #SmallBusinessUK #FamilyBusiness #Apprenticeships #TradesMarketing | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Rob McGlennon | 27 Mar 2025 | 00:33:21 | |
In this episode, host George sits down with Rob McGlennon, former Managing Director of Deceuninck UK, who recently retired after nearly 40 years in the fenestration industry. Rob shares his insights on how the industry has evolved, the best advice he's received, and the wisdom he now passes on. He also dives into the ongoing skills gap, the power of teamwork, and whether he might be tempted back into the trade. Plus, don’t miss our quick-fire round, where Rob reveals his favourite travel spots, go-to meal, and predictions for the industry’s future! | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Kettell Windows | 13 Mar 2025 | 00:44:21 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George is joined by Lisa and John Kettell of now award-winning Kettell Windows, a Leicestershire-based installation company celebrating 20 years in business! Lisa and John share their journey in the glazing industry, reflecting on how their business has evolved over the years. Lisa opens up about her experience as a woman business owner in a male-dominated industry and her passion for bringing apprentices into the trade. Meanwhile, John gives insight into the fenestration market in early 2025, their plans for the future, and diversifying their product range. And, of course, we wrap up with our signature quick-fire questions—find out who prefers email over phone calls, their go-to meals, and even their ultimate karaoke songs! | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Stuart MacGregor | 27 Feb 2025 | 00:28:58 | |
In this episode, host George Lewis speaks to Stuart MacGregor of MacGregor Recruitment, a specialist recruitment agency for the glazing and fenestration sector. Stuart explains how he ended up in the glazing industry, from starting at Eurocell to eventually starting up his own recruitment business nearly five years ago. He also gives advice on what recruiters look for in a potential applicant, how to stand out, and the skills and roles that are in high demand. Stuart also takes part in our famous quick fire question round, answering his go-to meal, favourite destination, and what he hopes the business will look like in five years time. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Brian McDonald | 13 Feb 2025 | 00:24:31 | |
With 28 years in the glazing industry, Brian has seen it all—now he’s leading Forel's UK & Ireland expansion and celebrating their first-ever G-Award win! In this episode, we dive into: - How glazing machinery has evolved: AI, automation, and the factory of the future - The power of PiGs networking events: why they’re a must for the industry - Brian’s standout PiGs memory, and where he would take the networking events if he ran the event for one night only. PLUS — Brian takes on our quick-fire round, revealing his dream podcast guest and favorite film! Hit play now and don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share! | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod — Ryan Green | 30 Jan 2025 | 00:23:14 | |
Clayton Glass Director Ryan Green is the latest person from the glazing community to sit in the Two PiGs in a Pod hot seat. Ryan explains how he acquired Clayton Glass nearly 20 years ago at the age of 28, despite being an accountant by trade, first impressions of the sector, and how the company and the wider glazing community has a 'family-like' feel to it. Ryan also discusses what the future may hold for not only Clayton Glass but the wider glazing sector as well, including signing up for FIT Show 2025 on the day of the interview! Plus, in our quick fire question round, Ryan lets us know his meal of choice, go-to holiday destination, and how he thinks the industry will look in a year's time. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod — GGF's John Mannell | 16 Jan 2025 | 00:40:50 | |
In the first episode of the new season, George speaks to Glass and Glazing Federation (GGF) Technical Officer and Training Manager, John Mannell. John discusses his unique journey into the sector, entering via the route of stained glass, despite having a grandfather owning a fabricating business since the 1950s. John explains how he originally used the GGF for guidance, before becoming Technical Officer over three years ago to provide that guidance to members. He also discusses recently taking on the role as Training Manager, helping to develop the routes into glazing, via schemes such as Skilled Pathways and GGF Training, and working with companies like Building Our Skills. Plus, John takes part in our quick fire question round, answering his go-to karaoke song, favourite TV programme, and plans in his role for 2025. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - George Lewis | 19 Dec 2024 | 00:39:20 | |
In this episode, usual host George is in the guest hotseat, with Sty Master Sarah Ball taking over hosting duties and asking the questions. George discusses his route into the glazing sector and his career so far, what he would tell his younger self and how the industry looks from his perspective. George also talks professionalisation, transferable skills and ‘selling the industry’ to potential newcomers. He also describes his highlights of his first year at PiGs, the importance of networking events for our sector, and dream podcast guests and locations. And in our quick fire question round, George has to answer all the questions he has asked throughout the year with no time to prepare, including last thing he Googled, heroes and go-to karaoke song. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Sam Weber | 05 Dec 2024 | 00:36:00 | |
In this episode, host George is joined by Sam Weber, who has been part of the glazing sector since 1989, and is currently part of Team Sea Soar, a team of rowers taking on the incredible challenge of rowing across the Atlantic Ocean for charity. Sam explains how he followed his dad into the industry, before venturing out on his own and forging his own career right across the glazing supply chain, and explains his excitement at starting in a new role early next year. He also gives us the lowdown on his upcoming epic World’s Toughest Row across the Atlantic Ocean this month, how it came about, how he has prepared for it, what he is least looking forward to, and just how much stuff is needed for 50 days out in the water. Sam also takes part in our quick fire question round, giving us his first and most recent gigs that he has attended, go-to breakfast, and what he sees himself doing in five years time (spoiler alert, it’s more wild challenges!). | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Katie Wilson | 21 Nov 2024 | 00:24:34 | |
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George is joined by CiiLOCK Engineering's Katie Wilson. Katie describes her career in the glazing sector, having spent 18 years in the industry, firstly at Profine and most recently with CiiLOCK after taking a couple of years away from the industry. She explains how it has changed over her time in the industry, her favourite and least favourite parts of the job, and why she jumps at the chance to go to networking events like PiGs (once she has figured out how to get there that is!). She also details a local charity she and CiiLOCK works closely with in The Gingerbread Centre in Stoke-on-Trent. And in the second part of our podcast, Katie takes part in our quick fire question round, explaining her love for scary movies, favourite sports and favourite room in her house. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Craig Barker | 06 Nov 2024 | 00:24:14 | |
In this episode, we speak to Craig Barker, Founder and Director of Koobr, who have recently joined forces with well-known marketing agency for the glazing sector, Balls2 Marketing. Craig discusses his excitement at creating a combined 'super agency', his first impressions of the glazing sector after attending the PiGs event in Bristol in June, and whether they've changed since completing the merger. Craig also explains the future plans for the companies, his roles outside of the 9-5 aiming to make a ‘positive difference’ in Derby and the East Midlands, and one key marketing tip for those within the sector to take into 2025. And Craig of course plays our quick fire question round, answering his favourite thing to do outside of work, top film and movie of all time, and which actor he would want to would play himself in a movie biopic. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Kelly McPhilbin | 25 Oct 2024 | 00:30:33 | |
In this episode, we speak to Kelly McPhilbin, Founder and MD of mini crane hire company, NXGEN Lifting. Kelly gives us the details on how she ended up in this sector, Googling highest paid jobs after spending 'all her money on horses and ending up eating beans on toast'. She also discusses her 'overwhelming emotion' at recently winning the Best New Business at the Businesswomen Awards, and how important ceremonies like these are for women in business. Kelly also explains what it means to be a women within glazing and the wider construction sector, whether she would like to be a role model for other women, and how important it is to have women in senior positions. Plus, in our quick fire question round, Kelly gives us her go-to breakfast, favourite places to visit, and how she thinks the sector will look in a year's time. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Mark Handley | 09 Oct 2024 | 00:29:04 | |
In this episode, we are joined by Building Our Skills' (BOS) Partnerships Manager, Mark Handley. Mark describes his route into the glazing sector, which wasn't his preferred route, starting as young as 11 in his dad's factory. He explains how his career took him from the factory floor, to the office and into a sales and marketing role, before eventually settling in his role at BOS. In his current role, Mark discusses how BOS is playing a major part in trying to address the skills gap seen in the sector, and how vital it is to speak to school and college kids, alongside teachers and parents, to promote the glazing sector. He also provides details on the two BOS Careers Festivals that have taken place in 2024, and how that will increase to five in 2025, and how companies from the sector can support them. Plus, Mark gives his answers to our quick fire question round, answering his favourite TV and movie, favourite place to visit and where he sees BOS heading in five years time. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Nat Weaver | 23 Sep 2024 | 00:38:58 | |
In this episode, we speak to Ashfen Window and Doors' Director, and soon-to-be Mount Kilimanjaro climber, Nat Weaver. Nat discusses finding her way into our sector after a 20+ year career within social care, how excited she is to be one of the team climbing Mount Kilimanjaro in a couple of weeks time, and the admiration for both Kelly’s Heroes, and to every person who has donated to her so far. Plus, in our quick fire question round, Nat tells us about her love for music, including her first and most recent gigs she has attended, and the all important question…her favourite smell. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Nigel Headford | 11 Sep 2024 | 01:10:11 | |
In this episode, we speak to Council for Aluminium in Building (CAB) CEO Nigel Headford. Nigel discusses how he found his way into the glazing sector, when life could have sent him in a completely different direction and into motorsport! Plus, Nigel explains his plans as CEO of CAB, how important it is to bring members together, and why the organisation is positioning itself at the forefront when talking about sustainability and a closed loop system for aluminium. Nigel also takes part in our quick fire question round, including letting us know his favourite car and favourite sport amongst other things | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Yasmine Hooson | 14 Aug 2024 | 00:25:34 | |
In this episode, we speak to Yasmine Hooson, who is the Talent Acquisition Partner for systems house, VEKA. Yasmine discusses what made VEKA stand out as a potential career option, how she promotes the company to people of all ages to get people into the glazing sector, from school children to future employees from other industries, and what transferable skills would be needed to apply for a role at VEKA. Plus, outside of the '9-5', Yasmine explains how VEKA and its employees play a huge role in the local area of Burnley, working alongside Burnley FC in the Community to connect with locals, such as in its Dementia Cafe. Yasmine also takes part in our quickfire question round, telling us the last thing she Googled, her hero (sort of!), and her go-to karaoke song. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Andrew & Hayley Charlesworth | 31 Jul 2024 | 00:36:06 | |
In this episode, we speak to Profine Group's Andrew Charlesworth and his wife, and Founder of charity Harry's Pals, Hayley Charlesworth. We discuss Andrew's career, from being kicked out of the Navy to ending up in the glazing sector and why Hayley decided to set up the charity after finding our their son Harry was born with quadriplegic cerebral palsy, a a severe form condition that affects all four limbs, the trunk, and the face. Andrew also explains why he is part of the 16-strong team climbing Mount Kilimanjaro this September, what the funds raised will help do, and what he is most (and least!) looking forward to. Plus in our quickfire question round, we also find out both our guests' first ever gigs, best places to visit and favourite things to do outside of work.. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Nickie West | 17 Jul 2024 | 00:29:57 | |
In this episode, host George Lewis speaks to Montgomery Group MD and FIT Show Director, Nickie West. Nickie discusses how she first got involved with exhibitions within the glazing sector, how the FIT Show has grown over the years and how she feels the industry looks from her perspective. Plus, with tickets about to go on sale and the first batch of keynote speakers announced for the GLASS Conference at the FIT Show's spiritual home in Telford, Nickie explains why the 16-17 October should be firmly in the diary of the whole supply chain. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Guy Hobson | 03 Jul 2024 | 00:24:11 | |
In this episode, we speak to Guy Hobson of recruitment company Chase Taylor, who specialise in recruiting into the glazing sector. Guy discusses how he ended up in the window and door industry after a first taste of it working for Homebase of all places, how he ‘sells’ the sector to potential new entrants and how important the socialising aspect of events like PiGs is for him and the Chase Taylor team. Plus, outside of work, Guy explains how he is ‘ruled’ by his two daughters, his first ever gig and where in the world he would take PiGs if he could. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Alyson Westbrook | 20 Jun 2024 | 00:25:20 | |
In this episode, we speak to Alyson Westbrook of Framexpress.
In an open and honest conversation, Alyson discusses being a relative newbie in the industry, helping to shape Framexpress for its future.
Alyson also explains why she forms part of the 15 taking on Mount Kilimanjaro, how important Kelly’s Heroes and her second charity Severn Hospice have been personally to her, and why she feels she has to give back to them at every possible opportunity. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Laura Molineux and Kelly Easthope | 06 Jun 2024 | 00:28:58 | |
In this episode, we speak to Laura Molineux and Kelly Easthope of award-winning Hayley Windows Design and Installation. Laura discusses taking over from her dad Mike after a career that began in London in estate agency, how it feels to be a woman-owned company with Kelly, and whether they feel like role models for the next generation of women coming into the industry. Plus, as winners of the Best Installation - Residential (up to £20,000) GGP Installer Award, they explain their delight at the win, and how important it is for them as a company to get involved with local charity fundraisers and events, and how that led to Laura nearly taking a local residents plant! And of course, we play our quickfire question round, where we find out both Kelly and Laura’s go-to karaoke song, first gigs and their favourite places to visit. | |||
| Two PiGs in a Pod - Gareth Jones | 22 May 2024 | 00:16:56 | |
In this episode, we speak to Gareth Jones, MD of Solar Fabrications and recently appointed as the Chair of FENSA. With a career in the industry spanning more than 25 years, Gareth explains how he got his first taste of the glazing sector when starting out at REHAU. Gareth also openly discusses how he has changed his life to get himself ready to be part of the team taking on Kilimanjaro for charity this September, which includes losing two and a half stone in weight! All this plus much more… | |||