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Episode 66: Need for Speed with Liverpool Harrier Tom Croft19 Sep 202400:53:27

The Two Men on the Run are joined by Tom 'Crofty' Croft, Liverpool Harrier, sprinter and coach.

Tom talks to the men about his sprinting training and goals for the coming year, his coaching and personal training business and the Olympics.


Episode 65: Matt Cochrane Celebrating 40 years of Newburgh Nomads11 Jul 202400:44:53

Matt Cochrane of Newburgh Nomads joins the Two Men on the Run to celebrate 40 years of the Newburgh Nomads, talk about fell running and if it should be in the Olympics, and his recovery from his recent TIA and quick return to training and racing.

Episode 56: New training regimes, New international races, New family members, the Two Men on the Run Catch-up25 Apr 202301:02:55

Since the Two Men on the Run last caught up properly back in the start of January a lot has changed, Jon-Jo is, fingers crossed health scare-free, and doing less running but is back to his PB'ing ways.

While Matt has changed coaches, changed training regime and targeting a new international marathon, plus expecting a new family member later this year.

Plus the Men chat about league athletics in the UK, is it still relevant today? And take a look at Boston (post) and London (pre) Marathon.

Episode 55 - Ian Lawton Returns and the man is on fire!17 Apr 202301:15:03

The Two Men on the Run are joined by the on-form In Lawton as he returns to tell all.

How at 41 he is having the season of his life taking a 2-minute PB over the Half Marathon in 67:28, a 10km in 30:11 a definitive Cross Country Season and beating lots of younger athletes in the Duathlon and on the roads showing age is only a number.

Episode 54: New Year, Liverbird Double Marathon and Jon-Jo's medical update06 Jan 202300:31:45

It's 2023 and the Two Men on the Run are back for another show and are aiming to get back to some routine with posting in 2023, so watch this space.

This week the Two Men on the Run catch up on Matt's possibly mad attempt at the Liverbird Double Marathon over the New Year weekend, Jon-Jo has some strong words for Matt about this, and whether Matt will actually make it to the start line of this weekend's Merseyside County Cross Country Champs, plus Jon-Jo updates us on his medical findings.


Episode 53: Christmas & End of the Year Round-up with the Two Men on the Run21 Dec 202200:50:29

The Two Men on the Run, catch up on their final races of the year, from Matt's Marathon out in California to Jon-Jo's last race in Ireland and his current injury and medical concerns. Hopefully all positive news for Jon-Jo this week before Christmas, and a hopeful return to his running in the new year!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our listeners and we shall see you all in 2023 for more Two Men on the Run!

Episode 52: Irish Masters Vests, and London Disappointment31 Oct 202200:43:50

This week the Two Men on the Run catch up on how training and racing have been going. Jon-Jo tells us about his racing over in Ireland where he's gained selection for an Irish Master Vest over the Cross Country. While Matt talks us through his London Marathon experience, from being in the pace pack for 2:14/15 to having to make the tough decision to drop out.

Episode 50: Susan Crehan - 1988 Olympic Marathon Runner, 1987 World Championships and the mother of one half of the show!25 Sep 202201:12:11

This week 50 episodes into Two Men on the Run, Matt's mum finally joins the men on the run, as she talks through how she got started in athletics, her struggles being a Northern Runner, against the Southern favouritism, her qualifying for the Women's first ever 10,000m at a World Championships in Rome (1987) and her selection for the 1988 Olympic Marathon after she finished 3rd British Woman and 5th Woman overall in the London Marathon in 2:35.10.

The Men also ask her about her thoughts on track and field today, and Susan discusses running while pregnant.

Episode 49: Michael Lucas - The Bob Graham Round and Falling from Mountains23 Aug 202201:37:52

This week the Two Men on the Run are joined by an old school friend of Jon-Jo's who just joined the illustrious Bob Graham Round Club, Michael Lucas.

The Men discuss how Michael went from someone who hated running to taking on the classic Lake District 24-Hour Challenge and what might be his next challenge. Mindfulness is explored from that of meditation to Michael's place of freedom high up in the mountains living life on the edge. Plus as a Vascular Scientist, Michael offers Jon-Jo some advice to help with his problem discussed way back in episode 3.

Episode 48: Commonwealth Games Preview02 Aug 202200:29:49

The Two Men on the Run preview the Birmingham Commonwealth Games and discuss the first athletics event of the Games, the Mena and Women's Marathon, plus we catch up on their training and racing over the last couple of weeks.

Episode 47: World Athletics Championships Review28 Jul 202200:48:15

Last week saw the end days of 10 days of athletics as Eugene Oregon hosted the World Athletics Championships and this week the Two Men on the Run catch up on some of the action, days before athletics hits the TV screens again as Birmingham hosts the Commonwealth Games.

Episode 46: Running for Fun or Running for Goals? Time Trials or Races? - Plus The Tour of Merseyside06 Jul 202201:02:56

This week the Two Men on the run catch up on their running, give us the lowdown on their race against each other from a couple of weeks back, and discuss the balance of running for fun and running to achieve a fast time or win a race, and can you actually run for both hmm?

Are time trials better than races?


Plus Matt breaks down this year's Tour of Merseyside results which saw an exciting battle at the front end. Plus Matt tries to convince Jon-Jo to enter next year's Tour alongside him.



Episode 64: Mark Rogerson - First Visually Impaired European Athlete to Complete all 6 Marathon Majors08 May 202400:45:33

Two Men on the Run are joined by Mark Rogerson, a local athlete who has been across the world breaking records and becoming the first-ever European visually impaired athlete to complete all Six Abbott World Marathon Majors.

The Men hear how Mark lost his sight and got started on his running journey, supported by family, friends and the RNIB. How he met his guide for most of his Marathon Majors, Katie Garrity, and the story of how they have travelled from the UK to Asia, and Europe, while finally taking his final Majors Star over in the States at the historic Boston Marathon back in April.

Episode 45: The one where Running is actually discussed02 Jun 202200:58:12

The Two Men on the Run are back and this week they actually spend the majority of the podcast, actually talking about running, from their own training and racing, or lack of in Matt's case, to the structure of athletics and how it might bring in more viewers and competitive athletics if it could stop getting in its own way.

Episode 44: Louis Leung - Nutrition, Physiology and Testing Jon-Jo14 May 202201:09:06

This week on the Two Men on the Run podcast the men are joined by Louis Leung the man who's been putting Jon-Jo through his paces, from lactate testing to VO2 Max test and rigid nutrition guides, but has Jon-Jo been sticking to them?

Louis is a current MSc Sport Nutrition Student at Liverpool John Moores University. After conducting a study, which you'll learn more about on the show, he joins the Two Men on the Run to discuss all their nutrition questions, tell Matt he's wrong about most of his nutritional planning, which Jon-Jo enjoys considerably and if you stay tuned all the way to the very end he'll also reveal how you get milk from a nut?!!

Episode 43: Northern League and Plastic in the Running Industry04 May 202200:58:44

In this episode, the Two Men on the Run discuss the upcoming first Northern League fixture of the season, as well as talk about the use of non-recyclable materials within the running industry from race t-shirts and medals to running shoes.

Episode 42: Manchester Marathon analysis and a look to the future07 Apr 202200:54:43

The Two Men on the Run catch up following Matt's exploits at the Manchester Marathon last Sunday, and Jon-Jo doesn't hold back on how he feels about Matt's performance.

Plus Jon-Jo discusses the upcoming National 12 Stage and his thoughts on his team, Liverpool Harriers chances.

And the Men discuss what's next for them both with the chance to take their friendship and rivalry to the track this summer as they'll meet up at the Northern Track and Field League matches.

Episode 41: The Two Men on the Run Catch-up!31 Mar 202201:06:27

Well as Season 2 of the podcast is underway the Two Men on the Run have a catch-up on all the training and racing that they've been up to since the last time they properly sat down all the way back in October 2021.

Jon-Jo discusses his trips to race in Ireland, and Matt catches us up on his England Vest and Manchester Marathon preparation.

Plus the guys discuss a host of running and not so running-related topics, from championship kit rules and logo placement to the war in Ukraine.

Episode 40: Two Woman on the Run - Jenny Clague and Alex O'Brien16 Mar 202201:11:07

The Two Men on the Run are back for Season 2 and they're kicking off the second season joined by two amazing Merseyside Athletes.

GB international Jenny Clague, whose honours include 4th place at the 1992 World Cross Country Championships in Boston, and a 32:41.29 10,000m PB and a slew of Merseyside, Northern and National Cross Country medals.

Alex O'Brien fellow Merseyside and Liverpool Harrier also joins the conversation discussing her many wins and Personal Bests as she has now moved up to the V40 category and it's only looking as if those PB's will continue to fall.




Episode 39: Matt Crehan - Catching up with a Man on the Run02 Nov 202102:04:51

Ian Lawton is back but this week he becomes an honourary man on the run as he steps into the interviewer seat along with Jon-Jo as the two put some tough questions to the now 2021 Manchester and Liverpool Marathon Champion - Matt Crehan.

The guys get Matt to talk them through his Manchester and Liverpool victories, which took place only two weeks apart, they dive into his training schedule, his race day fuelling and Ian even brings with him a series of listener questions, so tie up your running shoes and get out on that long run and enjoy this interview with Matt Crehan! 


Episode 38: Ian Lawton - GB Duathlete, Coach and Jon-Jo's nemesis at the Sunday League XC29 Sep 202101:21:55

Two Men on the Run are back again, this week joined by GB Duathlete and Triathlete, Mersey Tri's Ian Lawton.

Ian talks to the men about his early day's as a Liverpool Harrier and his time out of the sport after being told by a doctor he'd never compete again, before returning to take on not only running but adding swimming and cycling to the mix as well.

The Men talk about the art of training and competing over three disciplines and managing time between all three, work and family.

Plus as always the men ask Ian the tough questions on a couple controversial topics such as shoe and bike technology and possible 'short courses' in the Tri world!

Interested in getting coaching from Ian then check out Prime Tri Coaching here or on Instagram

Episode 37: Tony O'Brien - England International, National Road Relay Champion, and Liverpool Pembroke & Sefton Stalwart21 Sep 202102:30:00

After a bit of a hiatus, the Two Men on the Run are back with a fantastic interview with the ever-present and supremely talented Tony O'Brien.

Now the podcast doesn't get to delve too much into Tony's actual accomplishments on the road, XC and track as the guys discuss a range of topics, from 'Super Shoes' and coaching philosophies to the City of Liverpool and Tony's life.

So here are just a couple of stats on Tony's running career:

5000m - PB of 14:01, 10km - PB of 29:21, Half Marathon PB of 64:41 and a 2:20.20 Marathon PB at London 1999.

Tony has finished 15th at the National Cross Country Championships, and 14th at the 1999 World Cross Country Trials. Won the National Road Relay Championships in 2000 with Morpeth.

And has represented England Internationally on the road three times and on the cross country twice.

Hope you enjoy the show, please share and subscribe if you do and the Two Men on the Run will be back with more episodes soon.

Episode 36: Nathan Jones - From Costa Del Rhyll to the States and Back, the Nathan Jones Story!09 Aug 202101:37:01

The Two Men on the Run are joined by the GB and Welsh International Athlete Nathan Jones.

Following on from a great morning run around Croxteth Park, Nathan joins the Two Men on the Run to discuss how he got into the sport, his scholarship and time at McNeese University, under coach Brendon Gilroy, and his transition to being coached by legendary British Marathon Runner Steve Jones as part of Boulder Harriers training group, and his return to the UK due to ill health. The men also discuss Nathan's recent success at the Mid-Summer Night 10,000m Classic, taking the win and running 28:54, as he targets the Commonwealth Games to represent Wales.

And the Two Men on the Run round out the show by pushing Nathan on his thoughts on this Summers Olympic Games, Selection Policies and the effect of doping in athletics.

Episode 63: The Return28 Mar 202400:49:35

It's been months but the Two Men on the Run are back (and hoping to keep to some level of release schedule).

Jon-Jo has been building epic fitness, Matt's now a dad but training just as hard, and the Two Men on the Run have battled it out in fairly herculean fashion (they're not modest at all) at the Steve Prescott GPW St. Helens 10km.

Episode 35: Ann Griffiths - 1992 Barcelona Olympic and 1990 Commonwealth Games Silver Medalist28 Jul 202101:47:06

This week the Two Men on the Run celebrate the start of the 2020/21 Olympic Games and are joined by 1992 Barcelona Olympian Ann (Williams) Griffiths.

Ann tells the men about her highs and lows from winning Silver at the Commonwealth Games in 1990 to her Olympic story in 1992 at Barcelona. Her evolution of coaches from her local club in St. Helens where she grew up to the expert guidance she received at Sale Harriers, by the legandary Norman Poole.

And the trio discusses current topics in athletics from the shoe debate, doping and the smoke and mirrors of money in athletics.


Episode 34: Mid Race Fights, the Olympic Trials and how can Athletics help itself?16 Jul 202101:01:08

This week the Two Men on the Run discuss, the Olympic Games, the comparison between the UK and US Olympic Trials, and Jon-Jo finally retells the full story of his mid-race fight at the Sale Sizzler. Plus the guys discuss how athletics has a way to go to compete as a sport on the media stage.


Episode 33: Liverpool Harrier Invasion - Tom Rogerson05 Jul 202101:47:01

The Two Men on the Run are back with another episode and this week they're joined by another of Jon-Jo's training partners the youngster of the group Tom Rogerson.

Tom discusses his journey through athletics starting at the very beginning as a 9-year-old in the development group at Liverpool Harriers to his 12th place at the English School Cross Country and his tenure at Manchester Met University and his experience of coming through the various ranks of the track and field world.

The men also discuss some of the recent doping violations, the quickly upon us Olympic Games, the poor representation of athletics to the wider world and the shoe debate continues.

Plus Tom utilises his degree in ancient history to tell us more about the Origins of the Ancient Olympic Games.

Episode 32: Two Time Boston Marathon Champion and winner of the Emsley Carr Mile - Geoff Smith26 May 202102:37:51

This week the Two Men on the Run are joined by another special guest and this one has some might titles.

2x Boston Marathon Winner as well as a 3rd and 7th place finish.

2nd Place New York City Marathon in 2:09.08.

Competed at the 1980 Moscow and 1984 LA Olympics Games.

Winner of the Emsley Carr Mile - in 3:55.8

One of only 25 men who has run sub 4 in the mile and sub 2:10 in the marathon.

The legendary Geoff Smith!!!!

This is another really long show but totally worth listening to so subscribe, get your headphone in and get in that long run for the week feeling inspired by Merseyside's best runner of all time, and one of the world's greatest athletes.



Episode 31: Alistair Rutherford - 2 Times World Record Holder20 May 202101:44:12

This week the Two Men on the Run with another special guest, Liverpool Harrier and Jon-Jo's training partner Alistair Rutherford. The Men jump into Alistair's early years as a talented musician that led him to play for the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire, and how the dedication he has for his music has made him a better runner.

They discuss his Two World Records and his learning from a host of different coaches from his early days at Moslly Hil, to being at the University of Birmingham and coached by Dave Lawrence to now being under the guidance of one of our previous guests Tony Clarke.

If you've enjoyed the show please subscribe and if possible leave us a review on your favourite podcasting platform as it helps us be discovered by more like-minded runners.

Episode 30: Cheshire Elite Marathon Preview, parkrun returns and darts what can we learn from it?23 Apr 202100:56:54

The Cheshire Elite Marathon is finally here and Matt's ready to put his 12 weeks of solid training for it to the test, he tells Jon-Jo his plans for the race and going all-in on the day.

The Two Men on the Run also discuss running watches, the fantastic return of junior parkrun and what it might mean for the regular Saturday parkrun and darts what as a sport can running and athletics learn from it? Jon-Jo gives his thoughts along with one of his life lessons of putting down your phone and living in the moment!

If you enjoy the show please subscribe!


Episode 28: Racing is back, selection drama and world records!08 Apr 202101:09:06

This week the Two Men on the Run are flying solo and are catching up on a lot of changes from lifting of some lockdown measures, meaning group training and racing are back. Matt talks us through his 14:18 PB at the Podium 5k and the men discuss Beth Potters World Best and Unofficial World Record of 14:41 at the same event.

Matt finally got a chance to talk Jon-Jo through the British Olympic Marathon trials which saw an amazing run from Chris Thompson and Steph Davies, while also sadly prevents a previous podcast guest from making the Olympic Marathon team.

And Matt has a rant about the British 'glass half empty' mentality to wrap up the show.

Episode 27: Diet & Nutrition the Two Men on the Run Get Schooled - Dr Claire Blennerhassett24 Mar 202101:36:15

The Two Men on the Run are joined by the guest that Jon-Jo has been promising all you listeners since about Episode 2, as Dr Claire Blennerhassett, Senior Lecturer in Nutrition and Health at Edge Hill University joins them to talk all things Nutrition, Diet and Running.

She tells the men all about her study into the best fuelling for Ultra Runners, is it a High Fat/Low Carb, or High Carb/Low Fat? Just what is the 'Ultimate Diet' for the average person and the budding athlete? Is Matt's McDonald's and beer the best pre-race food? The answers yes Jon-Jo, and where she met her Viking Husband.

Eat Disorders and Restricted Eating are also discussed in the episode and if anyone listening is concerned about whether their eating patterns have become too restrictive you may wish to seek support from your GP or online https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/ which is a fantastic resource.

Follow Claire on Twitter @CL_ultra and her full Bio and Research can be found here: https://research.edgehill.ac.uk/en/persons/claire-blennerhassett

Episode 26: Marty McLoughlin - One of Merseyside's Greatest Ever Runners18 Mar 202101:30:52

The Two Men on the Run are joined by GB Athlete and one of the fastest men to ever come out of Merseyside, Liverpool Pembroke and Sefton Harrier, Marty McLoughlin as he discusses his running career from running the 2nd fastest 10 mile of 1987 which still ranks him as one of the 4th fastest Brits of all time only one second behind Mo Farah, with 46:26. To his fantastic Great North Run performance, his World Team Silver Medal at the 1987 World Cross Country Championships and his disappointment in finishing 4th at the 1988 Olympic 10,000m trials.

Marty also discusses his thoughts on the sport of athletics both in the UK and abroad and how he feels about the 'Super Shoe' debate.

Episode 25: Mother of all Mothers, Runner of all Runners International Women's Day with Rachael Fairclough08 Mar 202100:59:58

This week the Two Men on the Run celebrate International Women's Day, joined by the Mother of all Mothers and Runner of all Runners, St. Helens Strider, Rachael Fairclough.

Discussions get deep, from shoe debates to the after-effects of pregnancy and lockdown athletic training to sponsorship equality and the XC distance debate continues.


Also, Happy Birthday to one of the Two Men on the Run Jon-Jo Doherty who now finds himself in the Vets category as of today so he had best get training.

Episode 62: The Flood with Hughie Kilbane16 Aug 202301:07:56

This week the Two Men on the Run are joined by their good friend Hughie Killbane. After an exciting morning which nearly saw Made to Run flooded due to someone leaving a water tap running in the flats above, luckily guest Hughie Kilbane was on hand to do a bit of plumbing work and save the shop. There followed a great sit down and an interesting discussion with Hughie all about his running and how it fits into his life from a mental destresser to a training tool for his boxing and MMA fights and more.

Episode 24: Two Men and One Woman on the Run - with Kelly Hamilton25 Feb 202101:26:26

The Two Men on the Run are joined by St. Helens Strider, Kelly Hamilton this week as they catch-up on training and how Kelly has dealt with the last year of lockdown, homeschooling and her new house move.

The trio discusses the lack of races for amateur and sub-elite athletes following a bold statement from international athlete Jessica Judd earlier in the week, and how they're hoping to finally have an idea of when races might just return to the calendar.

Kelly tells us what she thinks of school sport, as a mother, and how it played an important part in her development growing up.

And the Two Men on the Run hear finally a women's view on the big XC Equality debate that's been raging on in the sport recently.



Episode 23: The Life of a Sub-Elite Athlete, Veteran Athletics, and Twitch18 Feb 202100:44:39

This week on Two Men on the Run, Matt teases Jon-Jo about his up and coming 35th Birthday when he'll move up into the Veteran Athletics category, Jon-Jo gives a shout out to his work colleagues and tells why they suggested he check out Twitch? And the guys discuss some of the mistakes that they themselves and other 'sub-elite' athletes make.

Episode 22: Running the Dream29 Jan 202100:52:04

This week on Two Men on the Run, the men discuss their training over that past week with some tough sessions in some brutal weather conditions. The XC Equality debate rages on and are running clubs in the UK a failure now in this modern world and should the UK be looking to have a more American Running 'Group/Team' Design?

Plus Matt discuss is recent running-related reading with Matt Fitzgeralds' 'Running the Dream' and Jon-Jo catches us up on where he is with Running with the Kenyans.

Episode 21: XC Equality, Running with the Kenyans and Clashes of the Titans21 Jan 202101:03:11

The Two Men on the Run discuss the latest in the XC Equality Debate, Matt gives us some recipe ideas for the famous Kenyan Athlete dish of Ugali and Jon-Jo discusses everything he's learning from reading Running with the Kenyans.

Plus the guys discuss would it be interesting to have 'Exhibition Fights' in athletics seeing the biggest names at different distances go up against each other in something on the middle ground such as would it have been fun to watch Usain Bolt vs Mo Farah over something like a 600m race when they were both in the prime of their careers, what are your thoughts?


Episode 20: New Year, New Lockdown, New Goals14 Jan 202100:51:10

Happy New Year or is it? The Two Men on the Run discuss the new Lockdown 3.0, the madness of Donald Trump and his supporters and running-related the guys discuss 'Running with the Kenyans' and the greats of Halie Gabrelsallise, Kenenisa Bekele and Eliud Kipchoge as well as comment on a couple running films that might help you stay sane till February the 15th.


Episode 19: Christmas Special - Equality, Lockdowns and The Marathon Project24 Dec 202001:01:55

This week the Two Men on the Run joined by two healthy glasses of Bailey's to celebrate Christmas discuss some tough topics from the call for equality in Cross Country races distances for men and women to the unravelling chaos of lockdown and tier system in the UK. Matt tells us about an exciting and interesting race that went on over in the states 'The Marathon Project' which sure a surge of 2:09 clockings by American marathon runners and a second on the all-time USA list from Sara Hall with a 2:20 performance only a couple of months after her fantastic run in London. Jon-Jo tells us why he doesn't listen to his own philosophical whims as he describes how to live without ego while Matt comments on how he's been doing the opposite all season in regards to races, and when the question is put to Matt he dodges it well. And the guys finish with the age-old running question, Split Shorts or Half Tights?

Episode 18: Jonny Mellor - 2:10.03 Marathoner & British Champion09 Dec 202001:08:30

Well the Two Men on the Run got the chance to catch-up with Team New Balance Manchester and 2020 British Marathon Champion Jonny Mellor.

Jonny has an impressive range with a sub 4 minute mile clocking of 3:58.76, a 5k best 13:31.21 and a 10k best that saw him win the Night of 10,000m and become British 10,000m champion of 28:42. He's also this clocked two extremely impressive 2:10 clockings first in Seville back in February with 2:10.03 and then when he won the British Marathon Championships at this years London Marathon with 2:10.38. He is the fastest British Marathoner of 2020 and 18th All Time.

The guys dive into all things with Jonny from the craziness of this year which started with Jonny smashing the Olympic Qualifying Standard for Tokyo only for the Olympics to be cancelled, his strange bubble and tagging experience at this years London Marathon and then back to his early days growing up on the Wirral and Training at Liverpool Harriers under Dave Evans, before joining Steve Vernon and the Team New Balance Manchester.

Jon-Jo does his best to get a load of free coaching advice off Jonny who offers coaching plans and one to one coaching over at JM Coaching .

We wish Jonny the best of luck as he heads into the Olympic Trials that have now been arranged for March 26th 2021 and his surely concrete selection to represent Great Britain at the 2021 Tokyo Olympic Games.

Episode 17: Marathon Trials, Welsh Castles and FREEDOM (sort off)02 Dec 202001:10:43

This week the guys spirits are lifted slightly as lockdown 2.0 is coming to an end and they can get back running in groups again. Matt hopes to make the cut off for the Olympic Marathon Trials in March, so the guys discuss the race potentials, course and if it's really needed. Plus Sir Mo Farah has been airing on our screens every day for the last couple weeks, neither Two Men on Run are fans of 'I'm a Celebrity' but Matt's been watching this year because of Mo and has found some similarities with himself in the Double Olympic Champion.

Episode 16: Lockdown 2.012 Nov 202000:47:53

We've had a couple weeks break as Lockdown 2.0 made us rethink how we do the podcast with Jon-Jo not having internet, but the Two Men on the Run are back via Skype to discuss a touch of running, the effects of Lockdown 2.0, the US Election and as always the philosophy of life according to Jon-Jo.

Episode 15: The Ego, The Id and the Chimp23 Oct 202000:51:33

The Two Men on the Run discuss the philosophies and psychological principles of Eckhart Toole, Freud and Professor Steve Peters from finding the balance of the Ego, Id (Chimp) and Super-Ego and how this affects them and us all in everyday life and our running.

New runners what do clubs and coaches have to offer? How do you find the right club and coach for your wants and needs? Is a paid coach better than a club volunteer coach? The guys discuss their thoughts on all of this from their good and bad experiences of both sides.

Jon-Jo gives us another song from the archive of Kris Kristofferson with "Me and Bobby McGee" to round out the show.

Thanks for listening!




Episode 61: John Downes & Bernie Jones , Athletics History and can the sport be saved?24 Jul 202301:56:20

This week only a couple hours after racing the Helena Tipping Wrexham 10km the Two Men on the Run are joined by Welsh International and the compare of the race Bernie Jones and Irish International, 1996 British Cross Country Champion and Athletics Activist John Downes.

Bernie and John highlight some of their illustrious athletic careers before diving deep into a discussion on the current shape of Athletics in the UK and the World and what, if anything can be done to try to save the sport they love.

Episode 14: Tier 3, Missing Races, Para Athletics and Jon-Jo sings us a song15 Oct 202000:53:55

With tighter restriction due to Tier 3 lockdown across Merseyside Jon-Jo discusses why he doesn't think there's any point in considering races this year, while Matt argues that races are needed for motivation. The guys discuss Para Athletics and the process that Matt's fiancee Jade faces as she targets a GB vest next summer.

Jon-Jo teaches us about the 5/25 philosophy of Warren Buffett to help us focus on what's important, before he plays the show out with a cover of 'Oh Carol' by Neil Sedaka.

Episode 13: The London Marathon07 Oct 202000:51:22

2020 has been a very weird year for us all but it was great to see the London Marathon take place in some capacity from the 45,000+ runners who took part virtually across the world and the Elite who ran 19 laps around St. James' Park in London. There were shocks and upsets, divides over running shoes and breakthrough performances. So after watching this year's London Marathon the Two Men on the Run discussed their thoughts from Jon-Jo's very controversial thoughts on the commentators, to some of their highlights and Matt's annoyance at the continued shoe debate.


Episode 12: End of Season Breaks and the great Emil Zátopek30 Sep 202000:51:24

This week after a season that included one 5km race, Jon-Jo is taking his end of season break and Matt is more than happy to get his own back after the stick he's taken the last couples with regards to his racing and training from Jon-Jo, the saying goes "who needs enemies, when you've got friends like these".

But jokes aside the guys discuss just what makes up a season in their minds and the different phases of the training cycle.

And to wrap up the last half of the show Jon-Jo asks Matt about the man he hails as possible the greatest distance runner of all time, and the only athlete to win Olympic Gold in the 5,000m, 10,000m and Marathon all in the same Games, Emil Zátopek.

Episode 11: Antrim, Sir Mo and COVID25 Sep 202000:52:59

In this episode the Two Men on the Run discuss a range of topics from Matt's race at the Antrim Half Marathon running alongside Sir Mo Farah, the continued effect of COVID and lockdown on the return to racing front with Cross Country season looking like it's going to be delayed to possibly the new year, while parkrun is planning to return in October (since announced it won't be) and Jon-Jo updates us on how he is doing going back to basics and training without the restraints of a watch.

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