Join Two Cranky Creatives, hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico. We are two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this debut episode of Two Cranky Creatives, co-hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico get real about why they started this podcast. If you’ve ever listened to creative industry podcasts and felt like everything was a bit too sugarcoated, you’re not alone.

Carrie and Toni are frustrated by the abundance of "polite" conversations about pursuing a creative career. So, they created Two Cranky Creatives to fill that gap. In this episode, they share their personal experiences of navigating the creative world and the challenges they’ve faced—from burnout to financial struggles to the emotional toll of trying to make it in a competitive industry.

You’ll hear them discuss:

• Why they believe so many creative podcasts only tell part of the story.
• The gritty realities that other podcasts gloss over, like the mental, emotional, and financial struggles that come with building a creative career.
• What you can expect from Two Cranky Creatives—brutal honesty, real talk, and actionable advice for surviving the ups and downs of the creative life.

Whether you’re a seasoned creative or just starting out, this episode is for anyone who’s ever felt discouraged, overwhelmed, or just plain cranky about the creative process. Get ready to ditch the sugarcoating and dive into the raw truth.

References Mentioned

Proof to Product with Katie Hunt
Bonnie Christine
Sorry to Bother You with LaKeith Stansfield

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, co-hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico dive into a topic that makes every artist’s blood boil: stolen artwork. From discovering your designs on unauthorized products to navigating the complicated world of copyright, they share personal stories, practical advice, and some much-needed venting.

If you’ve ever felt the sting of seeing your hard work taken without permission—or if you’re worried about how to protect your art—this episode is packed with insights to help you navigate the frustrating, cranky side of being a creative entrepreneur.

 In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Practical steps to protect your work from unauthorized use.
• Navigating gender norms in these dicey situations as a woman.
• The emotional toll of dealing with stolen art and how to manage it.
• Real talk about what you can do to safeguard your designs.

Whether you’re a seasoned creative or just starting, Carrie and Toni offer a mix of candid advice and encouragement to help you feel empowered—even when someone’s trying to steal your shine.

DISCLAIMER: Carrie and Toni are not lawyers. Any statements about copyright law are their personal understanding of US copyright law.

 References Mentioned

Shepherd Ferry Obama Poster

US Copyright Office

Kindle Direct Publishing

Carrie’s Cat Butt Illustration

US Copyright Office Report on AI

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico take on a popular piece of advice that might be doing more harm than good: the idea that you must draw every day to be successful. As two seasoned creatives who’ve found success in their own way, Carrie and Toni break down why this “rule” is more of a myth and how it often pressures artists into unrealistic expectations.

They get real about finding a balance between discipline and burnout, exploring how, sometimes, skipping a day (or several) can help your creative flow. If you’re tired of feeling guilt and shame every time you miss a day of drawing, this episode is for you.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Why the “draw every day” rule isn’t one-size-fits-all.
• How to build a creative routine that works for you—without the guilt.
• Real talk on why artistic success isn’t defined by daily output.

Whether you’re a pro or just starting out, Carrie and Toni share insights to help you make peace with your own unique creative rhythm.

References Mentioned

100 Day Project

30 Flowers in Your Style Challenge

Victory Tattoo

Liberty Tattoo

About Two Cranky Creatives

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode, Carrie and Toni are joined by Stacie Dale of Surface Design News to dive deep into the world of surface design classes. They explore how these courses can create sky-high expectations, leaving emerging artists overwhelmed, defeated, and downright cranky. If you’ve ever taken a class that promised you the moon only to deliver a handful of unrealistic goals, you’re not alone.

Carrie, Stacie, and Toni share real-life insights into why a surface design career isn’t a one-size-fits-all path and why success stories often skip over the gritty reality. They break down the toll of chasing a dream career without a roadmap that reflects real industry challenges.

Expect candid conversation on:

• How certain classes promise a “formula” to creative success that doesn’t actually exist.
• The importance of a grounded approach in finding your own creative path.
• The highs, lows, and often-ignored in-betweens of making a sustainable living in surface design.

If you’re a creative who’s ever felt discouraged or misled by industry advice, this episode will give you the clarity you need to cut through the noise.

References Mentioned

Surface Design News
Surface Design Industry Survey by Shannon McNab

Stacie’s Playlist
The Kill – Maggie Rogers
Welcome to the Jungle – Guns ‘N Roses
Pink Pony Club – Chapell Roan

Stacie Dale …
Stacie Dale is an illustrator and surface designer with a focus on birds and botanicals. She grew up in Audubon, Pennsylvania surrounded by nature preserves and the home of John James Audubon where she discovered her love of birds and horticulture.  You can view her most recent work on her illustration website or on her Instagram.  Stacie has written and illustrated her own children's book: Songbird Stories, Tales from the Pennsylvania Woods: Coming Home which is available for purchase on Amazon and on her retail website. She has also illustrated children's books for other independent authors and teaches in-person classes on colored pencil botanical illustration. In addition to her creative pursuits, Stacie is the editor of Surface Design News, a monthly subscription e-newsletter focusing on aspects of the surface design industry. Stacie can be reached at info@staciedaledesigns.com

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico tackle a topic that’s sure to resonate with every artist, designer, and creative entrepreneur: clients who think your work is overpriced. It’s frustrating, it’s aggravating, and it’s a reality that every creative professional faces.

Carrie and Toni dive into the common mindset of clients who believe they could “do it themselves” or undervalue the expertise and effort that goes into professional creative work. They share stories of their own experiences, explore why this misconception exists, and offer insights on navigating these uncomfortable conversations while standing firm in your worth.

If you’ve ever felt the sting of someone questioning your rates or struggled with educating clients about the value of what you do, this episode will leave you feeling seen, heard, and ready to defend your prices with confidence (and maybe a little crankiness).

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• ·      Why some clients undervalue creative work—and why they’re wrong.
• ·      The emotional labor of educating clients about your expertise.
• ·      How frustrating it is to be treated like you’re greedy when asking for the budget.
• ·      Strategies for standing firm in your worth as a creative. 

Whether you’re a seasoned pro or just starting out, Carrie and Toni offer a candid look at this all-too-common struggle—and some advice to help you navigate it with grit, grace, and humor.

References Mentioned

Canva

Graphic Artists Guild Handbook

Edward Tufte

Rapper Vocabulary Infographic (Matthew Daniels)*

SCORE

* incorrectly attributed to Edward Tufte in show 

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico explore the frustrating, confusing, and often hurtful experience of being ghosted. Whether it’s a client, collaborator, or contact who suddenly stops responding, being ghosted can feel like a betrayal. But Carrie and Toni are here to remind you—it’s not personal.

They share their perspectives on why being ghosted happens, how it can sometimes be a blessing in disguise, and ways to manage your response. If you’ve ever felt the sting of silence and struggled not to take it personally, this episode is for you.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Why being ghosted isn’t a reflection of you or your work.
• How ghosting can be a blessing in disguise.
• Why you should never burn bridges.

Whether you’re a creative entrepreneur or just navigating the art world, Carrie and Toni offer insight and encouragement to help you handle ghosting with grace—and a little cranky humor.

References Mentioned

Streak

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico dig into the risks of relying on third-party platforms to showcase and sell your art. From sudden algorithm changes to entire platforms shutting down, creatives often find themselves at the mercy of corporate decisions beyond their control. So, what can you do about it?

Carrie and Toni share practical strategies for managing these risks, making informed choices about where to share your work, and ensuring your creative business isn’t wholly dependent on any single platform. Diversification is key—because you need more than one safety net when it comes to your livelihood.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

🎯 Why using third-party platforms always comes with risk.
⚠️ How to protect yourself from sudden changes that could hurt your business.
💡 Making smart, informed choices about where you showcase your art.
💰 The importance of having multiple revenue streams.

Whether you’re selling prints, licensing your designs, or running an online shop, this episode will help you think critically about the platforms you use—and how to take control of your creative career.

P.S. Toni inadvertently named Emma Watson instead of Emma Thompson as the actress in Stranger Than Fiction

P.P.S. Here's the official explanation for how to calculate the median. Toni's explanation was flawed.

Notable Mentions

I Need by Maverick Sabre

Worlock by Skinny Puppy

Cooper Black (Font)

Larosa (Font)

Optimist Mixable Color

Shannon McNab’s Surface Industry Survey

POD Analysis Articles

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, Hannah Cole of Sunlight Tax joins hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico to tackle one of the most dreaded topics for creatives: taxes. Taxes can be a minefield, especially for artists and entrepreneurs who aren’t exactly thrilled by accounting. Hannah breaks down the essentials, sharing real experiences and guidance to help fellow artists approach their taxes without a meltdown.

From dealing with self-employment taxes to figuring out quarterly taxes, they cover the pitfalls every creative needs to know. If you’re overwhelmed by tax talk or confused about how to keep your finances in order, this episode brings clarity, laughter, and maybe even a little relief.

You’ll hear them discuss:

• The basics of self-employment taxes for creatives.
• Common mistakes artists make when it comes to deductions.
• Practical steps to keep your finances organized throughout the year.
• How to approach tax season with a little less dread (and maybe even a laugh).

Taxes might not be glamorous, but they’re essential for anyone making a living in the creative field. So, if you’re a creative struggling with tax chaos, grab a coffee (or a stiff drink) and tune in!

This podcast episode is brought to you by Money Bootcamp, a program made just for artists that will help you feel a little less cranky about taxes and finances. Join, and you'll have lifetime access to the course resources.

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Disclaimer: We are affiliates of Money Bootcamp, so we will earn a reward if you use our promo code, but we only promote programs (and people) we believe in :)

References Mentioned

Sunlight Tax
Schedule C
Xero
Sunlight Tax Podcast Episode on TurboTax – Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
Voluntary Income Tax Assistance

Free Resources

Artist and tax pro, Hannah Cole (of Sunlight Tax), is hosting a free class, Make Taxes Easier and Stash an Extra $130k in Your Savings. It’s one hour and designed to help you understand why you keep getting stuck in a cycle of pain surrounding taxes and the simple systems you need to get out of it. It’s on 9/25 at noon Eastern. It’s free, but you need to register: https://go.sunlighttax.com/free 

Hannah Cole …
Hannah Cole is an artist, tax expert and the founder of Sunlight Tax. She specializes in educating entrepreneurs and creative professionals in taxes and financial empowerment. A long-time working artist with a high-level exhibition history, Hannah is a frequent speaker on stages and podcasts, a money columnist for the art blog Hyperallergic, and the host of a global top 3% podcast, the Sunlight podcast. Her company, Sunlight Tax, specializes in friendly, informative tax education for self-employed people with a big vision, and engaging, savvy tax education workshops for creative groups.

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

NOTE: We had some technical issues near the end of the show with echoes and feedback. Apologies in advance.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, Mable Tan joins hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico to tackle one of the most soul-crushing topics for creatives: rejection. Whether it’s a politely worded email or radio silence after submitting your art, rejection is inevitable—and it can happen at any stage of your creative career!

Mable, Carrie, and Toni share personal experiences with rejection, discuss why creating for yourself is so important, and explain how stepping back to take a break can actually help you grow as an artist. If rejection makes you feel discouraged, this episode offers practical advice and solidarity to remind you you’re not alone.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Why rejection can happen to anyone at any time.
• The importance of creating art that fulfills you first.
• How taking a break can reset your mindset and reinvigorate your creative process.
• Real talk on reframing rejection as a natural part of the artistic journey.

Whether you’re a new artist or a seasoned pro, Mable, Carrie, and Toni share insights to help you navigate rejection with grace—and maybe even a little cranky humor.

References Mentioned

The Creative Act by Rick Rubin

Mable Tan…

Mable Tan is a surface designer based in Melbourne, Australia. She is devoted to creating pretty things that brings joy and happiness to people and homes. Her work has been seen in Target Australia, Spotlight, RICE, Urban Outfitters and Lucy & Yak. Her art is very much inspired by kindness, self-care, nature and birds. 

Connect With Mable online:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mabletandesigns/

My website for artists: https://iamanartist.today/

My surface design website:  https://mabletan.com/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mabletandesigns

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mabletandesigns

Art Licensing Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/artlicensingwithmabletan

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico tackle creatives' complicated relationship with social media. From its highly curated content to the frustration of navigating platforms they can’t control, they get real about why social media can drive even the most patient artists to crankiness.

They share personal stories of social media crankiness and offer practical tips for using these platforms without losing your mind—or your creative spark. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the constant need to post, perform, or keep up with the algorithm, this episode is for you.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Why the curated perfection of social media can feel so toxic.
• The reality of not owning or controlling the platforms you rely on.
• Healthy ways to balance your social media presence without burning out.
• Real talk about setting boundaries and finding strategies that work for your goals.

Whether you’re a seasoned creative or just starting to navigate the online world, Carrie and Toni share actionable advice to help you take control of your social media habits—and reclaim your sanity.

References Mentioned
Adobe Express

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Cat Coquillette. Together, they tackle the controversial “T-word” in the creative industry—trends. Is trend-chasing selling out? Can you still be considered an artist if your work aligns with market demands? Spoiler: Yes, and yes!

This week, we’re embracing the cranky side of being a surface designer in a commercial world. Carrie, Cat, and Toni explore how surface design is, by nature, commercial and why wanting to be paid for your work isn’t the betrayal of artistry some might claim. Learn how to apply your own creative voice to trends, make them uniquely yours, and stay authentic while keeping your work marketable. Because, spoiler alert: You're still an artist—even if your art pays the bills.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Why “trend” doesn’t have to be a dirty word.
• Finding the balance between market demands and your creative identity.
• How to interpret and personalize trends in your work.
• Challenging the myth that commercial art isn’t “real” art.

Whether you're a trend trailblazer or someone who rolls their eyes at the word, this episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating the art-meets-commerce tightrope.

References Mentioned

Pinterest Predicts 2025
Pantone Color of the Year 2025
Backblaze
Cat’s Kittens & Shrooms Mug
Cat’s Trend Reports
Toni’s Blog

Cat’s Playlist

Sunny Sloth by Monster Rally
Taxi Dancer by Dengue Fever
Lebanese Blonde by Thievery Corporation

Cat Coquillette …
Cat Coquillette is a nomadic artist and founder of CatCoq, a brand that draws inspiration from Cat’s travels around the world. Her artwork, ranging from tropical florals in Bali to Amazonian wildlife and Scandinavian textile patterns, offers a unique perspective to her audience. Cat’s creative courses and art workshops have helped over half a million students gain the skills and confidence to pursue their creative passions. Cat remains dedicated to delivering art, education, and value to the community she loves. www.catcoq.com

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Janine Vangool of UPPERCASE Magazine. They tackle the myths and realities of creative confidence. Forget what you’ve heard about “imposter syndrome”—it’s time to ditch the labels and start owning your power.

They share their insights on why confidence isn’t something you’re born with but something you build by doing, how to embrace action as your superpower, and why removing self-imposed labels can unlock your creative potential. If you’ve ever doubted your abilities or felt stuck in a creative rut, this episode is your pep talk—cranky humor included.

You’ll Hear About:

• Why “imposter syndrome” is just a silly myth.
• How confidence grows when you step into action.
• The freedom that comes from ditching restrictive labels.

Whether you’re a seasoned creative or just starting out, Carrie, Janine, and Toni want you to show up boldly and unapologetically.

References Mentioned

UPPERCASE Magazine

Encyclopedia of Inspiration

6th Surface Design Guide

UPPERCASE on Instagram

 Janine Vangool …
Janine Vangool is the publisher, editor and designer of UPPERCASE. Her magazine and books celebrate the process of making, the commitment to craft and the art of living creatively. Janine got her start working as a freelance graphic designer for arts and culture clients and has also taught typography and publication design at the college level. She has been a shop owner and bookseller, gallery curator, sold a line of greeting cards wholesale, made 10,000 books by hand (with lots of help!) and has sewn her own products for retail. She has four fabric collections with Windham Fabrics.

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Mandy Corcoran of Amanda Grace Design. Together, they unpack the ins and outs of pitching schedules in art licensing and explain why working smarter and crankier matters. You'll also hear why small companies might be your licensing sweet spot over those intimidating big-box stores.

In This Episode, You'll Hear About:

• Why you should be designing one season ahead to stay relevant and competitive
• The benefits of designing for seasons, not holidays - timeless over timely
• Real-world experience pitching art in an ever-changin industry

Whether you're just starting out or deep into licensing, this episode will leave you feeling prepared, proactive, and just the right amount of cranky.

References Mentioned

Notion
Mable Tan’s Newsletter

Mandy Corcoran…
Hey there! I’m Mandy Corcoran, the creative force behind Amanda Grace Design. With a deep passion for turning art into seamless patterns, I’m here to help artists like you merge creativity with technology and transform those artistic dreams into thriving businesses. My journey in surface pattern design is all about making tech tools fun and accessible, turning the transition from sketch to digital masterpiece into an exhilarating adventure.

Through my courses, eduletters, and engaging reels, I’m dedicated to helping you streamline your processes so you can focus on what you truly love: creating. Let’s dive into the vibrant world of digital art together and manifest those wild creative visions into reality. Ready to turn your art from under appreciated to unstoppable? Let’s do this!

Website: amandagracedesign.com
Instagram: instagram.com/amandagracedesign
Procreate Patterns Unleashed (affiliate link for Toni)

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Julia Barry of UpRoot Design Studio. Together, they dive deep into the societal devaluation of art. From the paintings on your walls to the designs on your favorite coffee mug, art is everywhere—so why is it so often dismissed as “non-essential”?

They examine the barriers to collecting art, how classist norms influence accessibility, and challenge the arbitrary systems deciding which art is “good.” Most importantly, they explore how valuing each other as artists can transform these outdated narratives.

Join them for a thought-provoking conversation that’s sure to get you fired up about the importance of art in everyday life—and why it deserves more respect, recognition, and resources.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Why art is all around us and yet undervalued.
• The classist restrictions on collecting and enjoying art.
• Who decides what makes art “good” and why it’s all arbitrary.
• The power of artists valuing and uplifting each other.

Whether you’re a working artist or someone who simply loves creativity, this episode is your reminder to take art seriously—because it’s shaping the world around you every single day.

Notable Mentions

Eddie Gangland
Fabio Napoliani
Blinded by the Light
Maverick Sabre

Julia’s Playlist

All Is Well Now by Gillian Spencer Trio
Rather Be feat. Jess Glynne 
Loud Pipes by Ratatat
Malka Moma Si Se Bogu Moli

Julia Barry…
Julia Barry is an artist working toward a healthier planet. She owns UpRoot Design Studio, where she teaches classes on green living, runs the Sustainable Superhero Society for green living enthusiasts, and designs and sells sustainable home, garden & wellness goods to make green living easier and more fun. She uses bold colors and a whimsical illustration style to communicate delight and wonder about humans and our Earth, and motivate everyday people to participate in joyful sustainable habits. As an artist and organizer, she has created community art projects such as "Habitat: Home" -- a performance series of collaboratively-made art about the meaning of 'home' -- and taken part in many arts programs and residencies nationwide like Art-a-Hack, Chalk Hill, and VCCA. As an advisor, she has served as a grant panelist for The Pollination Project and board member for the climate podcast, Threshold. She lives with her many plants, tiny rescue dog, and husband in Brooklyn, NY.

UpRoot Design Studio (use code THANKYOU15 to get 15% off)
Sustainable Superhero Society (use code SUPERHERO3MON to get 3 free months)
Instagram: @uprootdesignstudio 

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, Carrie and Toni are joined by Melissa Johnson. Together, they dig into the frustrating yet all-too-familiar challenge of executing the vision you’ve imagined in your head. It’s a topic every creative can relate to … that gnawing feeling when what you produce doesn’t match the image in your mind.

Carrie, Melissa, and Toni explore the patience, practice, and self-compassion needed to close that gap while sharing strategies to help you navigate the journey. From learning to step back and create space between you and your work to the power of asking “What if?” as a creative tool, this episode is packed with actionable insights for those moments when the struggle is most definitely real.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• Why being patient with yourself is the ultimate creative act.
• How stepping away from your work can lead to unexpected clarity.
• The role of practice in sharpening your craft and bridging the vision gap.
• Why asking “What if?” can open doors to creative breakthroughs.

Whether you’re a seasoned artist or an aspiring designer, this episode will leave you feeling seen, supported, and maybe just a little less cranky about the creative process.

Melissa Johnson…

Melissa Johnson is a Midwest-based surface designer, watercolor artist and creative educator who brings vintage aesthetics to life with a modern perspective. Her designs capture the rhythms of nature, bringing timeless charm and contemporary style to life.

 Melissa has developed a career that blends her passion for creating with a commitment to teaching. She helps others embrace creativity and navigate their journeys through thoughtful education and personalized coaching.

Instagram: @m.johnsondesign

Website: https://melissajohnsondesign.co/

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Xhico of Studio Xhico. Together, they tackle a crucial yet often overlooked issue in the surface design industry: cultural appropriation. They delve into the fine line between inspiration and appropriation, exploring what it means to find your authentic creative voice while respecting cultural boundaries.

They also share practical advice on responsibly using cultural references in your work and offer insight into the importance of awareness and sensitivity in today’s global art landscape. If you’ve ever wondered how to ensure your designs are original, respectful, and rooted in your personal voice, this episode is a must-listen.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

• The difference between cultural appropriation and cultural inspiration.
• How to discover and nurture your own unique artistic voice.
• Tips for responsibly incorporating cultural elements into your work.
• Why cultural sensitivity is essential for ethical creativity

Notable Mentions

The Otomi People

Xhico…
I’m a traveling artist, designer, photographer, and creative entrepreneur with my studio in sunny California. With over thirty-five years of experience building brands, visualizing ideas, and design-thinking, my attention is now focused on surface pattern design and online education. You can catch some of my design classes on SkillShare.

When I’m not designing or creative coaching, I'm hosting my annual design retreat in Oaxaca, Mexico. You'll often find me in remote locations in the cloud forests of Chiapas or on the hillsides of volcanoes in Guatemala. I work with indigenous artisans to bring attention to their work through fair-trade collaborations.

Website: https://studio-xhico.com/
Instagram: @ studio.xhico

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Nate Padavik and Salli Swindell of Illustrators for Hire. Together, they break down what’s really behind those cranky moods we all experience as artists and entrepreneurs. Spoiler alert: crankiness is usually a cover for something deeper.

They discuss why self-awareness is crucial for navigating creative careers, how our emotional state affects our professional relationships, and most importantly—how to get unstuck when you’re feeling irritable. Because let’s face it, being cranky might be part of the creative experience, but making it a habit? Not a good look.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

😤 How crankiness is often a mask for deeper emotions like fear, frustration, or burnout.
🧐 The importance of self-awareness in managing your emotions as an artist.
🤝 Why professionalism includes making collaborations pleasant—even when you’re in a mood.
🚪 Practical strategies for shifting out of crankiness and getting back into creative flow.

Whether you're feeling stuck in a rut or just need a reality check on handling artistic frustration, this episode will help you reframe your cranky moments and turn them into something productive.

Notable Mentions

Avatar Papyrus SNL Skit

Nate’s Playlist
Useful Music #024

Secret Life (Album)

Anthropocene (Album)

Nate Padavik …

Nate Padavick is a freelance illustrator and the co-founder—along with his sister Salli Swindell—of the sites THEY DRAW, Illustrators For Hire, and The Illustrator’s Circle. Nate has over 20 years of experience as an illustrator, specializing in maps; a graphic designer specializing in websites and branding; and a content creator specializing in online community building. He lives in New York’s Hudson Valley and enjoys long bike rides, uphill hikes, home-cooked meals, farmer’s markets, coffeeshops, and dinner parties.

Salli Swindell …

Salli Swindell is a freelance illustrator and the co-founder—along with her brother Nate Padavick—of the sites THEY DRAW, Illustrators For Hire, and The Illustrator’s Circle. Salli has been part of the illustration industry since 1981. Her daily mantra is to Stay Colorfully Creative. Sometimes that means creating very colorful illustrations, cooking with lots of colorful veggies or wearing a bright yellow coat in the winter. She spends hours every day hiking the beautiful trails near her home in Hudson, Ohio. Salli in three words: cats, color, coffee.

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Kay Wolfersperger to tackle a hard truth about making a living in surface design: one income stream just isn’t enough. If you’ve been told that licensing your art will pay all your bills, they’re here to set the record straight—with plenty of cranky real talk.

They dive into why relying solely on licensing is the exception, not the rule, how multiple income streams are a necessity (not a failure), and the best ways to diversify without losing your sanity. Whether you're freelancing, teaching, selling products, or building passive income, they break down the ways creatives can actually make a living—without burning out.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• How art licensing alone won’t pay all your bills (and that’s normal).
• The reality of balancing multiple revenue streams without losing your mind.
• Why having multiple streams isn’t a failure—it’s smart business.

If you’ve ever felt stressed about where your next paycheck is coming from, this episode will help you feel seen, empowered, and maybe even a little less cranky.

Notable Mentions

Shannon McNab’s Surface Industry Survey

Harvest.com

Kay’s Playlist
Flow Beats on Spotify

Kay Wolfersperger …

Kay Wolfesperger is a creative lighting bolt based out of Savannah, GA, USA. She funnels her boundless energy into her illustrations to create unique and compelling solutions for her clients such as Editions Auzou, Creative Bug, American Greetings and Design House Greetings. Her colorful and lively work often explores humor and positivity and her mixed race background provides invaluable insight and appreciation for diverse points of view and a penchant for empathy. Wolfersperger loves the convenience and speed of working digitally but embraces the wobbly lines in her work that reflect the mastery of her craft and humanness in her process. She balances her robust creative entrepreneurship with running, lifting heavy and traveling.

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, the Cranks are joined by Ana Bianchi—a designer, artist, and color whisperer who says hell no to playing it safe with your palette. Together, they dive deep into the wild world of color: how to find your unique color voice, why signature palettes can sometimes box you in, and what magic happens when you step off the color wheel and into the unknown.

If you’ve ever felt stuck in a rut of “what works,” or afraid to experiment because, gasp, it might clash, this episode is your personal permission slip to go bold, go weird, and make your color choices unapologetically you.

Ana Bianchi …
Originally from Mexico, Ana Bianchi is an artist, designer, illustrator, and twice-published children’s book author/illustrator. With degrees in both graphic design and fine arts, her 35+ years of creative work span disciplines ranging from printmaking and ceramics to illustration, surface design, and children's wear to graphic design and branding for clients, small and big, from local restaurants to major airlines.

Her lifelong love of color is what connects it all and helps her comfortably move from one discipline to another and from one technique to another. Her book Color Curious (Chronicle Books) illustrates her ideas and inspiration around a variety of color themes, combining essays with her photography, illustrations, and more, and as you read her texts, you will discover her deep interest in art history, world cultures, and the pursuit of creative ideas through the common thread of color.

When not working in her Bay Area studio, Ana loves to cook and bake colorful things, tend to her garden -her other color studio- and spend time with her tiny family and dogs.

Color Curious Substack

AnaLovesColor.com
@analovescolor

Her book Color Curious  is now available for preorder at Chronicle Books, Amazon, Bookshop.org, Barnes&Noble, and Target 

Shipping on September 30th.

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.