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| From 7 Enrolments to Six Figures: How a Vestibular Physio Built an Online Program from Scratch | 05 Mar 2026 | 01:15:47 | |
Picture a physio who launched her first online program with seven people enrolled. Six of whom she already knew personally. A sales page with no checkout connected. A program she hadn't finished recording yet. That was Vicky Stewart's launch one. Her most recent launch just crossed six figures. Today's guest, Dr. Vicky Stewart, is a vestibular physiotherapist who spent years watching patients with chronic dizziness fall through the cracks of traditional healthcare. She built The Shift, a 10-week online group program, to reach the people her clinical hours never could. She didn't have a following, a marketing budget, or a polished funnel when she started. She had a clear problem, a willingness to start messy, and the psychological capacity to treat early results as data rather than verdicts. This conversation is about what it actually looks like to build something over time, across seven launches, when the numbers are small at first and the fear is loud throughout. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS: 1️⃣ Your First Launch Is Not a Verdict, It's a Data Point — Seven people enrolled, six of whom Vicky already knew. Most people would have interpreted that as proof the idea didn't work. Vicky interpreted it as proof of concept. If one person paid, others will too. That reframe, from verdict to data, is one of the most reliable predictors of whether a therapist keeps going or quietly shelves the whole thing. 2️⃣ You Don't Need a Large Following to Fill a Program — Vicky built her early launches almost entirely through existing professional relationships, referrer networks, and speaking opportunities, including a keynote in Dubai, before she had any meaningful social media presence. The skills therapists already use to build referral networks in private practice transfer directly. You probably already have more reach than you think. 3️⃣ Messy and Started Beats Perfect and Waiting, Every Single Time — Vicky launched her beta without a checkout page connected to her sales page. She was already in open cart week when she found out. She sorted it in real time, ran the program anyway, and built everything else from there. Seven launches later, she has a waitlist, a team member supporting her community, and her first six-figure result. None of that happens if she waits until she feels ready. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:
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| From Perinatal Psych to Florist: When Your "Side Idea" Becomes the One That Works with Carla Anderson | 19 Feb 2026 | 00:55:18 | |
Picture a psychologist with 25 years in perinatal mental health — burned out from holding space for loss and trauma for decades. She needed something that was just hers. No clinical notes, no disclosure risk, no empathy fatigue. She chose floristry. And then her perinatal colleagues found out. And asked her to bring it to conferences. Then to teach it online. Now she has a waiting list of clinicians who want in. Today's guest, Carla Anderson, is a clinical psychologist who built two very different streams inside one business — perinatal mental health training for healthcare clinicians, and floristry-based therapeutic programs for clinician self-care. She didn't plan it. She followed her gut. And the market responded in ways she didn't see coming. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS: 1️⃣ Your Burnout Might Be Pointing You Somewhere — Carla needed something that shut her brain off after 25 years of perinatal loss and trauma work. Floristry did that. What started as self-preservation became the foundation of an entirely new program. Your burnout isn't a problem to solve. Sometimes it's a signpost. 2️⃣ The "Weird" Idea Is Often the One That Takes Off — Carla kept reverting to her safe perinatal niche because floristry felt too new, too hard to package. Then perinatal conferences kept asking her to run the floristry sessions. Fellow Incubator members asked when they could join. The market told her what it wanted — she just had to listen long enough to believe it. 3️⃣ You Don't Have to Explain Everything Upfront — People come to Carla's workshops thinking it's about flower arranging. By the end they're doing deep reflective work through metaphor. You don't need a ten-paragraph explanation. You just need to get people in the room. The experience does the convincing. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:
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SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW: If this episode made you look at your "just for me" hobby differently, subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your reviews help other therapists find conversations that give them permission to build something unexpected. You don't have to abandon what you're good at to build something new. You don't have to have it all figured out before you start. And you definitely don't have to ignore the thing that lights you up just because it doesn't fit the obvious mould. What if the thing you thought was just for you is exactly what other clinicians need? What opens up when you stop treating your own joy as a liability? | |||
| Corporations Are Paying Psychologists to Teach Play - Here's Why It's Working | 11 Feb 2026 | 01:04:53 | |
Picture a corporate wellness landscape where companies are tired of boring PowerPoint workshops but also can't justify wine tastings when burnout is a WHS compliance issue. There's a gap there. A big one. And what if you could fill it? Today's guest, Dr. Mitzi Liddle, is doing exactly that. She's teaching corporations about play and pleasure - yes, you read that right - as nervous system regulation tools. Not fluff. Not entertainment. Neuroscience-backed performance enhancement. And teams are actually booking it. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS: 1️⃣ Play Isn't Childish—It's a Nervous System Tool – When Mitzi started noticing corporate teams responded better to movement, music, and laughter than traditional lecture-style workshops, she followed that thread. Play and pleasure aren't frivolous—they're pathways to regulate your nervous system out of chronic stress and burnout. They bring you into your window of tolerance where creativity, energy, and clear thinking actually live. 2️⃣ There's a Gap in Corporate Wellness (And You Can Fill It) – Organizations don't want boring PowerPoint workshops. But they also don't want wine tastings that waste time. They want something engaging AND evidence-based. Something that addresses real burnout while meeting psychological safety requirements. If you can position experiential work with neuroscience backing, you've found the sweet spot. 3️⃣ Diversification Doesn't Mean Starting Over – Mitzi's been a psychologist for 20+ years. She didn't abandon her expertise—she expanded it. Corporate playshops for teams. Group programs for individual women. Both use the same foundation (play, pleasure, nervous system regulation) but serve different audiences. You don't need a brand new skill set. You need strategic positioning. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:
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| Stop Hunting for Ideas: The One Question That Actually Creates Clarity | 04 Feb 2026 | 00:18:50 | |
You've got the notebook. The voice memos. The Google Doc titled "possible program ideas" you haven't opened in weeks. You're not short on ideas. You're drowning in reasonable options. And somehow that feels worse than having no ideas at all. Because when you're stuck with multiple good directions and still can't get traction, it starts to feel like a you problem. Like you're overthinking it. Not ready. Not disciplined enough. Here's what you need to hear: You're not failing at this. You're misoriented. You're trying to choose before you're positioned to see clearly. And the question you're asking yourself is keeping you stuck. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS: 1️⃣ This Isn't Confusion - It's Misorientation – Your brain is doing exactly what it was trained to do: analyse before acting. But when there are multiple good options, analysis mode creates paralysis. Your nervous system reads commitment without clarity as threat, so you stay stuck in research mode. This isn't a motivation problem. It's a starting-point problem. 2️⃣ You're Asking the Wrong Question – "What program should I create?" forces comparison, activates imposter syndrome, and assumes you need something novel. The better question: "What problem am I already solving repeatedly, whether I intend to or not?" This shifts you from ideation to pattern recognition, from theoretical planning to lived experience. Most therapists don't need a new idea - they need better visibility on work they're already doing. 3️⃣ Depth Creates Blind Spots – If people keep bringing you the same problem without you marketing for it, that's data. But experienced therapists dismiss what feels familiar, obvious, or "too simple." The more expertise you have, the more invisible your skill becomes to you. You're not underestimating the work - you're underestimating yourself. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:
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| Why Everything Just Changed for Therapists: Money, Burnout, and Technology Collide | 28 Jan 2026 | 00:47:06 | |
For 12 months, I've been warning you the traditional therapy model is breaking down. Some of you have been listening. But many have been waiting for clarity. Here's what you need to hear: The last eight weeks changed everything. November 2025: Australia restricted Better Access referrals. December 2025: Fifth consecutive year of US Medicare cuts. January 30, 2026: US telehealth flexibilities expire. While those policy changes hit, something else shifted: 1 in 8 young people now use AI chatbots for mental health advice. Corporate wellness budgets hit $53 billion with contracts being signed NOW for 2026-2027. This isn't slow erosion. This is all five forces reaching tipping points simultaneously. This is the convergence. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS: 1️⃣ Three Realities Converging Right Now – The math isn't working (Medicare cuts, Better Access restrictions, client affordability crisis). Your colleagues are planning exits (52% US therapists burned out, 29% considering leaving). Future clients expect something different (70% Gen Z prefers virtual, 1 in 8 young people use AI chatbots). 2️⃣ Every Disrupted Profession Made This Mistake – Accounting got automated. Physical therapy faced reimbursement cuts. Personal training went digital. Each time, practitioners said "our profession is different." They were wrong. Pattern: professions split into commodity/premium tiers, early movers capture premium positioning, late movers compete on price. 3️⃣ The Window to Move From Strength is Closing – Early adopters already generate diversified income. Early majority (you) see it's real but still research. Late majority arrives when landscape is occupied. Corporate contracts signing NOW. Course markets maturing NOW. Window open now—won't stay open. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:
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| The REAL Truth About Passive Income for Therapists (It's Not What You Think) with Kayla Das | 22 Jan 2026 | 00:44:50 | |
Let's talk about passive income, and NO, this isn't another "make money while you sleep" pitch. This conversation with Kayla Das is the most honest, transparent take on passive income for therapists I've heard in a LONG time. Kayla's a Canadian social worker, business coach, author of The Passive Practice, and someone who's actually DONE this work. She's built multiple passive income streams and she's willing to tell you the TRUTH about what it really takes. Here it is: passive income isn't passive at the beginning. It's WORK. Consistent, upfront, sometimes-discouraging work. But once it's established? That's when you get your time back. That's when you can help more people without burning out in one-to-one sessions. If you're tired of trading hours for dollars and wondering if there's another way—this episode is for YOU.
1️⃣ Passive Income Is NOT Passive at the Beginning – This is NOT a get-rich-quick scheme. It's a "slow and steady wins the race" strategy. You'll put in consistent work upfront—sometimes for MONTHS—before you see revenue. Kayla didn't make a dime from her blog for six months. But she kept going. And now? It works on autopilot (mostly). Once it's built, you never start from scratch again. 2️⃣ Earned Income vs. Passive Income Changes Everything – One-to-one therapy = earned income. You work X hours, you make X dollars. There's a ceiling. With passive income, you create something ONCE—a course, blog, digital product, podcast—and it generates revenue over and over. That's what creates time freedom. But you need an audience to share it with (email list, social media, organic traffic). 3️⃣ It's About Pivoting, Not Quitting – Kayla's digital templates made NOTHING the first 30 days. Zero dollars. But she didn't scrap them. She pivoted—changed the marketing images, rewrote descriptions, tested things. Then it worked. The issue isn't usually your product—it's how you're presenting it. Be willing to fail, learn, and adjust.
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| The Hidden Cost of Staying Stuck | 14 Jan 2026 | 00:36:14 | |
I've been noticing this pattern with the therapists I work with. Incredibly capable people with clear ideas for what they want to build - programs, offerings, shifts in their practice. They can describe it in detail. But when I ask what's stopping them, the answer is always some version of "I'm stuck." In this episode, I'm not giving you productivity tips or telling you to just start. I'm naming the quiet problem that nobody talks about: the kind of stuck that doesn't look like stuck at all. Because this type of stuck comes with a cost that accumulates slowly, and most of us don't see it until we're years in. If you've been sitting with an idea for months (or years), if you keep researching instead of building, if you're waiting for more certainty before you commit - this episode is for you.
1️⃣ Staying Stuck Is Not Neutral - It Has a Real Cost – We believe taking action equals risk and staying stuck equals safety. But staying stuck erodes self-trust, creates ongoing frustration, causes decision fatigue, and leaves you feeling behind without knowing why. You're still on a trajectory - you're just not choosing it consciously. 2️⃣ Research Mode Is False Movement – When your version of stuck looks like productivity (taking courses, reading case studies, studying how others did it), it's especially dangerous. It feels like you're making progress. You're not. At a certain point, researching stops being preparation and starts being avoidance. You already have enough information to start. 3️⃣ You're Already Choosing Your Hard – Moving forward is hard. Staying stuck is also hard. Nothing worth doing is usually easy. The question isn't how to make it easier - it's which version of hard you want to choose. The uncertain pain of starting, or the familiar pain of staying where you are?
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| Before You Plan Anything in 2026, Answer This One Question | 08 Jan 2026 | 00:38:07 | |
Everyone's doing planning episodes right now. Goal-setting frameworks, vision boards, annual reviews - and those resources are great. But here's what I think most people are skipping: the single piece of clarity that actually makes planning work. I just came back from two weeks completely offline (forced digital detox courtesy of terrible cruise internet). And while I was offline, one question kept surfacing. Not "what do I need to do differently" or "what are my goals" - but something deeper that completely shifted how I'm approaching 2026. In this episode, I'm not giving you another planning framework. I'm giving you the clarity that makes planning obvious. Because without this foundation, you'll abandon your plan by February. With it, everything else falls into place. If you've ever set goals that looked good on paper but didn't stick, or found yourself circling the same idea without committing, this episode is for you. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE: 1️⃣ Planning Without Clarity Is Why Your Goals Keep Falling Apart – It's not a discipline problem or a commitment problem. When you plan based on what you think you should do (instead of what actually matters), the plans don't stick. Clarity isn't a nice-to-have. It's the foundation. 2️⃣ Three Questions That Surface What's Actually There – Before you plan anything, sit with these: What keeps resurfacing for me? What am I no longer willing to carry into 2026? What am I waiting for permission to do? One of these will hit harder than the others. That's your entry point. 3️⃣ Identity Drives Behaviour (Not Willpower) – We don't have commitment problems, we have identity problems. When you ask "Who do I need to become?" instead of "What do I need to do?", action becomes natural. Someone who "tries to build" versus someone who "is a builder" - same activity, completely different relationship to it. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:
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| How to Go Into the Holidays Without the Pressure to Catch Up | 17 Dec 2025 | 00:35:11 | |
If you've ever headed into a break thinking "I'll finally catch up on everything," only to feel guilty the entire time—this episode is for you. Dr. Hayley Kelly breaks down why the pressure to be productive over holidays backfires, and gives you a practical framework to actually rest (or maintain minimal momentum) without the guilt. This is the final Therapists Rising episode before a two-week break, and it couldn't be more timely. For therapists in Australia staring down six weeks of school holidays—or anyone facing year-end break pressure—Hayley shares the exact decision-making tool that helps you choose between full rest or minimal maintenance, and actually feel good about your choice. No fluff, no "just be kind to yourself" advice. This is a teachable framework you can use immediately. HERE ARE THE KEY INSIGHTS: 1️⃣ The Capacity Audit – Learn how to accurately assess what's actually available to you during a break (spoiler: it's about one-fifth of what you think). Hayley walks you through the exact questions to ask yourself about time, nervous system capacity, and competing demands—so you're working with reality, not fantasy. 2️⃣ The Inertia Calculation – The framework for deciding whether to maintain minimal momentum or take full rest. You'll learn the specific criteria for each path, why there's no universal right answer, and how to make the choice that fits YOUR reality right now. 3️⃣ Implementation Strategies – If you choose minimal maintenance: how to define your minimum, reality-check the time required (double your estimate!), match it to actual capacity, and set a ceiling so it doesn't creep into becoming your whole break. If you choose full rest: how to do a clean stop, set boundaries, and use the "That's for January-me" mantra. 4️⃣ The Guilt Release Protocol – The missing piece that makes either choice actually work. Learn how to acknowledge guilt when it shows up (it will), return to your decision, and practice releasing pressure throughout the break—not as a one-time event, but as an ongoing practice. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:
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| I Gave Up My Medical License to Say This Out Loud with Dr Julie Sladden | 10 Dec 2025 | 01:08:31 | |
If you've ever felt unsafe speaking up, shrunk your practice to avoid regulatory scrutiny, or wondered if the system designed to protect you is actually harming you—this conversation will validate everything you've been feeling but haven't said out loud. SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW: If this episode showed you what's possible when you give yourself permission to build differently—or inspired you to rethink what scaling could look like in your practice—please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! | |||
| Stop Planning Like a Therapist: How to Create a 2026 You’ll Actually Stick To | 26 Nov 2025 | 00:46:08 | |
If you’ve ever ended the year thinking, “Why didn’t I get to my program?” or “How am I still drowning in clients?”, this episode is basically a loving intervention. Therapists don’t miss their goals because they’re unmotivated — they miss them because the system trains them to prioritise everyone else first. So their dream project becomes the “neglected child” of the business. Loved, wanted… always getting scraps. In this solo episode, I’m breaking down why traditional planning fails therapists and how to design a 2026 that actually supports your nervous system, your business, and your desire to drop clinical hours without imploding. This is therapist-safe planning — honest, grounded, and built around your real life. ⭐ HERE ARE THE KEY INSIGHTS:1️⃣ Why You Didn’t Hit Your Goals We unpack guilt, urgency culture, emotional labour, and why clinical work always wins. Plus the real reason your program keeps getting pushed to “next term… next year.” 2️⃣ The 2025 Reflection Ritual A three-part reflection to understand what drained you, what supported you, what made money, and who you don’t want to be again next year. 3️⃣ The Big Dream Dump We explore what you actually want — dropping a clinical day, launching your program, taking real holidays, visibility, writing, creative work — without guilt or “be realistic” energy. 4️⃣ Your 3–5 Pillars for 2026 Not tasks — pillars. Diversification, money stability, schedule redesign, visibility, leadership, capacity. We map what this looks like for Escape, Stabilize, Expand, and Visionary stage therapists. 5️⃣ Mapping Your Nervous System Rhythms School terms. Cycles. PMDD. ADHD. Grief dates. Low-capacity seasons. You plan for the real you, not the fantasy version. 6️⃣ Putting It on the Calendar The therapist-safe way: non-negotiables first, then pillars, then buffers, then launches. I walk through how someone in the Stabilize Stage could safely drop a clinical day by September — without collapse or chaos. ⭐ RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Therapists Rising: If this episode gave you permission to design a kinder 2026 — or helped you realise nothing was “wrong” with you this year except the way you were conditioned to plan — please subscribe and leave a review. It helps more therapists build businesses that don’t require self-abandonment or burnout badges. | |||
| Scaling With Soul - How Dr. Catherine Hart Built a Practice That Breaks All the Rules | 19 Nov 2025 | 01:24:38 | |
If you've ever thought "scaling means selling out" or "growing a team means burning out," Dr. Catherine Hart is about to prove you wrong. She's built a 35-person psychology practice across five sites with a salaried employment model that actually retains clinicians—and she did it by breaking every rule. In this episode, I'm talking with Dr. Catherine Hart, clinical psychologist, director of Succoris Psychology Group, and 2024 APS Supervisor of the Year. Catherine didn't set out to become an innovator—she started as a psychologist who felt like an outsider, too questioning, too bold. When she experienced how exploitative the contractor model can be, she made a decision: I'm building something different. You'll hear Catherine's journey from one consulting room in 2019 to building an entire ecosystem—five sites, a training academy, business partnerships, and online courses. We dive into the salaried employment model revolutionizing retention, how to scale without losing your values, building systems that support humans, and what real leadership requires when you stop playing small.
1️⃣ The Salaried Model Revolution – Catherine breaks down exactly what her salaried employment model looks like and why it changes everything for clinician wellbeing and retention. You'll hear the real numbers, the pushback she faced, and the ripple effect on practice culture. 2️⃣ Scaling With Integrity – The real story of going from one room to five sites—the failures, pivots, and moments where she almost lost her way. How she uses innovation (AI note-taking, structured systems) to support clinicians, and her philosophy on scaling with purpose versus scaling because you can. 3️⃣ Permission to Want More – Catherine talks about being the kid who always asked "why," feeling like an outsider, and giving herself permission to want more than one-to-one work. She's now building clinical care, training academy, business partnerships, and courses—stepping into leadership and building legacy work. 4️⃣ The Business Education Therapists Never Got – Catherine is transparent about investing in herself, seeking business education (including The Incubator), and surrounding herself with community. Grad school taught clinical skills—not how to build sustainable, ethical businesses.
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| The 4 Boundaries That Stop Business Burnout | 12 Nov 2025 | 00:42:52 | |
If your business feels like it's draining you instead of filling you up, you're probably recreating the same patterns from therapy practice that burned you out in the first place. The endless availability, saying yes to everyone, undercharging out of guilt, and the resentment that builds when you're trying to be generous but running on empty. In this episode, I'm breaking down the 4 specific business boundaries that changed everything for my business: Energy, Systems & Containers, Money & Sustainability, and Visibility & Emotional Energy. These aren't clinical boundaries—these are business owner boundaries that protect your capacity, profitability, and sanity. You'll hear real stories from my business (including the wake-up call that made me choose sustainability over people-pleasing), learn why "service over profit" is actually destroying your business, and discover why building systems is more important than relying on willpower. If you've ever felt resentful of clients you're trying to help or found yourself responding to DMs at midnight, this episode will show you exactly where your boundaries are leaking.
1️⃣ Energy Over Everything – If something consistently costs you more energy than it gives back, it's a no. Learn why ignoring red-flag clients always ends badly, how to be ruthless about fit, and why protecting your energy is fiduciary responsibility (not selfishness). 2️⃣ Systems & Containers (Because Willpower Is Bullshit) – A boundary without a system is just a wish. I'll share my DM boundary story and show you how to build infrastructure that holds boundaries for you—so you're not white-knuckling your way through every client interaction. 3️⃣ Money & Sustainability (Profit Funds Service) – When service constantly comes at the expense of profit, you're not being generous—you're being extractive toward yourself. Hear my wake-up call story about removing overdelivery, why people got upset, and how I chose sustainability anyway. Martyrdom is not a business model. 4️⃣ Visibility & Emotional Energy – Not every conversation deserves your nervous system. Learn how to handle criticism, hate DMs, and projections without defending yourself or losing sleep. Your job isn't to manage other people's discomfort with your boundaries.
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| The 7 Lies Keeping Therapists Broke and Burned Out | 05 Nov 2025 | 00:31:23 | |
"You just need more self-care." That's what I kept hearing when I was burnt out, seeing 30+ clients a week, barely breaking even. I tried bath bombs, meditation apps, yoga breaks. None of it worked. Because the problem wasn't my self-care routine. It was the business model. In this episode, I'm dismantling the 7 lies that keep therapists overworked, underpaid, and stuck in unsustainable practices. The toxic narratives about burnout, pricing, marketing, and what it takes to build a therapy practice that doesn't destroy you.
1. You cannot self-care your way out of a broken business model. 2. Money talk isn't dirty. It's data. 3. The model doesn't get easier. You have to make it different.
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| What Sobriety Taught Me About Doing Business Differently | 29 Oct 2025 | 00:24:44 | |
For 12 months, I’ve been sober, and until a recent doctor’s appointment, I’d completely forgotten. No countdown. No recovery story. No before-and-after moment. Just life, without alcohol. When my doctor asked, “None? Not even socially?” and looked at me like I’d just confessed a crime, something clicked. His disbelief wasn’t about alcohol — it was about the quiet pressure we all feel to play along. To do the thing that makes everyone else comfortable, even when it doesn’t feel good to us. That moment made me realise: sobriety isn’t really about alcohol. It’s about truth. It’s about self-trust. It’s about noticing all the ways we abandon ourselves - in business, relationships, and life - just to belong. If you’ve ever found yourself saying yes when you meant no, discounting your prices to avoid seeming greedy, or over-giving because you don’t want to disappoint, this episode will hit home. This is a conversation about emotional and professional sobriety - and what happens when you stop performing belonging and start building it from integrity instead. Here’s what I cover:
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| Why 'I Don't Want to Be Salesy' Is Keeping You From Serving | 22 Oct 2025 | 00:46:36 | |
In this episode, I'm tackling one of the biggest fears holding therapists back from building sustainable online practices: the terror of being "too salesy." If you've ever frozen at the end of a webinar, mumbled through your offer, or avoided pitching your program altogether because you're worried about pressuring people who've already been through so much — this episode is for you. Here's the truth: Your fear of being salesy isn't actually about sales. It's about identity, worth, and deeply ingrained beliefs about what it means to be a "good" therapist. And until you unpack those beliefs and make some critical identity shifts, no amount of perfect pitch scripts or marketing tactics will make you feel comfortable making offers. So today, we're going deep. We're talking about the mistaken beliefs sabotaging your ability to serve, the five identity shifts that transform selling from a threat into an act of service, and the practical framework for making offers that feel aligned, authentic, and effective. Whether you're a therapist launching your first online program, a coach struggling to convert webinar attendees, or a clinician who knows you need to make offers but feels gross every time you try — this conversation will meet you right where you are.
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If this episode helped you see your fear of selling in a new light — or gave you permission to finally make that offer with confidence — please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review. Your words help us reach more therapists ready to build practices that don't burn them out. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising. Now go make that offer like you MEAN it. See you in the next episode! | |||
| Turning Grief into Purpose with Kimberly Stevens | 15 Oct 2025 | 01:03:03 | |
After losing her teenage son Ethan to T-Cell Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia, psychologist Kimberly Stevens faced the unthinkable — and chose to transform her grief into something that would help thousands of others. In this conversation, Kimberly shares the story behind Kids Connecting Parents, an app she created to help bereaved parents find local, peer-based connection and support when professional services fall short. ⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of child loss, grief, and bereavement. Please listen when you feel ready and have support available. Her honesty cracked something open in me — and reminded me why I started Therapists Rising in the first place. Because when the system doesn’t work, we have two options: collapse under it, or build something new. If you’ve ever questioned how to move forward after loss, burnout, or heartbreak, this episode will meet you right where you are. Here’s what we cover
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| The Story I've Never Told: My Mental Health Crisis | 13 Oct 2025 | 00:36:01 | |
For 230 episodes, I've referenced my "kitchen floor moment" without telling you the full story. After interviewing psychologist Kimberly Stevens about transforming her grief into purpose, I realized: if I'm asking therapists to be brave enough to step outside broken systems, I need to be brave enough to tell you why it matters so much to me. This is the story of my suicide attempt, the months after, and the moment on my kitchen floor—with my young son's hand on my shoulder—that changed everything. ⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of suicide attempt, suicidal ideation, and mental health crisis. Please listen when you feel ready and have support available. If you're a therapist who's ever felt like the system is breaking you, this episode is for you.
1. Therapist burnout isn't a personal failing—it's a system failure. If you're struggling, you're not broken. The system we were trained in hasn't caught up with the demands of modern practice. The guilt, shame, and isolation you feel? You're not alone. 2. Surviving a crisis isn't the same as healing. I got help after my attempt. I went to therapy. But I was still having panic attacks for months because I was still in the same impossible life. Real change required changing the system I was working in, not just managing symptoms. 3. You don't need permission to build something different. Leaving traditional practice doesn't mean you're abandoning people. It means you're choosing to help people in a way that doesn't require you to be on a kitchen floor to admit something has to change.
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If this episode made you feel less alone or gave you permission to consider a different path—please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review. Your words help us reach more therapists who need to hear: You're not broken. The system is. And there's another way. Thanks for tusting me with your time. I see you. I've been you. You're not alone. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! | |||
| Breaking the Unspoken Rules: Prof. Nick Titov on the Future of Therapy | 08 Oct 2025 | 01:02:08 | |
In this episode, I'm sitting down with Professor Nick Titov—a giant in digital mental health and founder of MindSpot, Australia's leading digital psychology service that has reached over 250,000 Australians. If you've ever wondered whether therapy has to look the way it's always looked, this conversation will shake up everything you thought you knew. Nick isn't just innovating patient care—he's challenging the profession to wake up and adapt. We're living through a seismic shift. Consumer behaviour is changing. The workforce is shrinking. AI is here. And if therapists don't get a seat at the table, we risk becoming irrelevant. This episode is for every therapist who's felt trapped by the traditional model, burnt out by one-to-one limitations, or curious about what the future holds. Here's what we cover:
1. Innovation doesn't wait for permission. Nick built the evidence, proved it worked, and created a national service helping hundreds of thousands. If you're waiting for the system to change, you'll be left behind. 2. Your value proposition is up for negotiation. AI delivers psychoeducation. Apps track symptoms. What can you do that technology can't? Get clear on your value—or risk obsolescence. 3. The future is blended, scalable, and prevention-focused. One-to-one therapy will always have a place—but it can't be the only model. Master multiple modalities: digital tools, teletherapy, group programs.
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| Let’s Talk About Sex (Online): Navigating the Ethics, Fear & Freedom of Being a Therapist Who Talks About Taboo Things with Laura Lee | 01 Oct 2025 | 01:01:01 | |
In this episode, I’m sitting down with the bold, brilliant, and whip-smart Laura Lee - a psychologist, sexologist, coach, and the founder of Blue Space Psychology - to dive into what it actually takes to talk about sex online as a regulated health professional. Laura’s work lives at the intersection of mental health, sex, and relationships. And let’s just say, that combo can light up the AHPRA risk radar faster than you can say “shadowban.” So how do you balance professional responsibility with authentic, sex-positive content creation? How do you hold ethical boundaries and your own truth? That’s exactly what we unpack in this episode. Whether you’re a therapist craving more freedom in your content, a sexologist juggling regulation and realness, or someone feeling stifled by the blurry lines of online expression — this conversation will meet you right where you are. Here’s what we cover in this episode:
3 Powerful Takeaways: 1. Ethics aren’t the enemy of expression. You can hold professional responsibility and be a full human online. It just takes intention, reflection, and sometimes — community. 2. Shame thrives in silence — especially around sex. By showing up with grounded, nuanced content, you’re modelling the exact safety you want your clients to feel. Your content can be part of the healing. 3. General doesn’t mean generic. You don’t need to share client stories or deeply personal experiences to be impactful. Speaking to themes, struggles, and questions is often more powerful — and way more sustainable. 💻 Resources & Links Mentioned: 🎧 Explore Laura’s membership & resources: https://www.lauralee.com.au/unbound 📩 Join the Incubator Waitlist: Be the first to know when doors open again for therapists ready to create their first online program — therapistsrising.com/incubator More From Dr. Hayley Kelly: Follow me on Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly ⭐ Subscribe, Rate & Review: If this episode helped you feel seen or sparked a new way of thinking about your online voice — please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review here. Your words help us reach more therapists ready to disrupt, rebuild, and rise. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising. See you in the next episode! | |||
| “What If I Get It Wrong?” Two Therapists on Doubt, Fear, and Creating Their First Programs | 22 Sep 2025 | 01:35:13 | |
In this episode, I’m sitting down with Alice Ayliffe and Elise Cassidy — two incredible therapists and Incubator graduates — to explore what it really looks like to move beyond the 1:1 model and create programs that change lives. If you’ve ever wondered, Where do I even start? Will anyone want what I create? What if I get it wrong? — this conversation is for you. Alice is an occupational therapist based in Hobart who has carved out a powerful niche supporting adults with ADHD and training other OTs to work in this space. Elise is a Melbourne-based speech pathologist with nearly 30 years of experience, who has turned her deep passion for dyslexia advocacy into online programs and resources for parents and schools. Neither of them had it “all figured out.” They both wrestled with doubts about burnout, regulation, self-belief, and fear of judgment from peers. But through the Incubator, they found clarity, community, and the confidence to build programs that not only generate income but also expand their impact far beyond the therapy room. In this episode, Alice and Elise share the barriers they had to push through, the wins they’ve achieved, and the advice they’d give to any therapist standing where they once stood. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:
RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: The Therapist Rising Incubator – For therapists ready to create their first sustainable online program with ongoing support: therapistsrising.com/incubator Connect with Alice Ayliffe:
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| Years of Clinical Expertise & A PhD, Zero Clue How to Turn it into an Online Program - Dr. Sam Casey's Story | 17 Sep 2025 | 00:53:07 | |
In this episode, I'm sitting down with Dr. Sam Casey, founder of the Play Prescription Method, to explore one of the most common challenges therapists face: having an encyclopedia of knowledge but feeling completely stuck when it comes to packaging it into something teachable. If you've ever felt paralysed by your own expertise, this conversation is for you. Sam had a PhD, extensive research, clinical expertise as a registered play therapist, and a brilliant framework she'd developed. But when it came to creating her certification program? She was completely stuck. The breakthrough came when she realised she didn't need to include everything in version one. Sometimes the answer isn't adding more content — it's giving yourself permission to simplify and start imperfectly. In this episode, Sam shares her journey from PhD paralysis to launching a 16-week certification that students call "transformational." We dive deep into her Play Prescription Method, which makes therapeutic play accessible beyond the therapy room, and explore how she's challenging traditional gatekeeping in mental health by equipping professionals and parents with practical healing tools. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:
RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: If this conversation resonates and you're ready to turn your clinical expertise into a structured program, join me for the From Caseload to Course Bootcamp, running Sept 23-26, 2025. For just $37, I'll guide you through how to map, price, and structure your first ethical online program using frameworks designed specifically for therapists - just like Sam did with her Play Prescription Method. In four focused days, you'll move from feeling paralysed by your expertise to having a clear roadmap for packaging your knowledge into something people can actually use. 👉 Secure your spot at: therapistsrising.com/bootcamp Connect with Dr. Sam Casey:
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SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode helped you see how to simplify your expertise without dumbing it down, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more therapists who are ready to package their knowledge into programs that actually serve people. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising - see you next time! | |||
| The Hidden Reason Business Coaching Doesn’t Work for Therapists | 15 Sep 2025 | 00:19:38 | |
In this episode, I’m breaking down one of the most frustrating realities therapists face when trying to build online programs: traditional business advice simply doesn’t work for us. You’ve probably felt it — you join a business webinar or invest in a coaching program, and halfway through you realise: this doesn’t fit. The strategies feel pushy, unsafe, or completely out of alignment with your clinical values. And if you’ve ever thought, “Maybe I’m just not cut out for business,” you’re not alone. The truth is, you’re not broken. The advice you’ve been given wasn’t designed for therapists. It ignores our ethics, our scope of practice, our insurance requirements, our time constraints, and the unique way we’re trained to think and work. In this episode, I’ll walk you through the five big reasons generic business advice fails therapists — from topic selection and program design, to pricing, marketing, and capacity. You’ll understand why the advice feels so misaligned, what’s really going on when you get stuck, and why the solution isn’t to become “more business-y,” but to use frameworks that actually translate your clinical expertise into sustainable, ethical online programs. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:
RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: If this conversation resonates, join me for the From Couch to Course Bootcamp, running September 23–26. For just $37, I’ll guide you through how to map, price, and structure your first ethical online program using frameworks designed specifically for therapists. In four focused days, you’ll move from feeling like business advice doesn’t fit, to having a clear roadmap for building a program that honours your scope, your ethics, and your capacity. 👉 Secure your spot at: therapistsrising.com/bootcamp MORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLY
SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode helped you realise why traditional business advice doesn’t fit therapists, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more therapists who are ready to build programs that actually work for them and their clients. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising — see you next week! | |||
| “I Can’t Keep Doing This”: Why You Don’t Have to Grind in 1:1 or Walk Away Completely | 10 Sep 2025 | 00:31:07 | |
In this episode, I’m talking about one of the most painful myths therapists buy into: the belief that your only options are to keep grinding in 1:1 sessions until you collapse, or burn your practice down and walk away completely. Maybe you’ve felt it too — cancelling family dinners because of client demand, fantasising about a “normal” 9–5 job, or even Googling “alternative careers for therapists” late at night. It’s an awful false binary, and it’s keeping too many talented therapists stuck, exhausted, and questioning their future. I’ll walk you through why this binary shows up in our profession, what it actually costs when you stay stuck in it, and how to pivot in a safe, gradual way that doesn’t mean torching everything you’ve built. You’ll hear real stories from therapists in our community, plus my own 18-month pivot journey, and you’ll leave with the belief that your therapy career can expand, not end. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE: 1. The “grind or burn” binary is a lie – Most therapists believe their only options are to overwork in 1:1 forever or walk away entirely. In reality, there’s a third path: gradual, layered pivots that create sustainability without blowing up your practice. 2. Staying stuck has real costs – Burnout, chronic health issues, guilt about waitlists, identity crises, and even leaving the profession altogether. This isn’t just uncomfortable — it’s unsustainable for you and for the mental health system. 3. Pivots can be small, safe, and successful – From pilot workshops to beta groups to my own 18-month gradual shift, the most effective pivots aren’t leaps off a cliff. They’re experiments that create breathing room while protecting your existing practice. RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: If today’s conversation resonated and you’re ready to try your own safe pivot, join me for the From Couch to Course Bootcamp, running September 23–26. For just $37, I’ll guide you through how to map, price, and structure your first ethical online program using frameworks designed specifically for therapists. In four focused days, you’ll move from being stuck in the binary to having a clear roadmap for building a sustainable program that works alongside — not against — your therapy career. 👉 Secure your spot at: therapistsrising.com/bootcamp MORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLY
SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode helped you see that your only choices aren’t grind or burn, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more therapists who feel stuck but deserve to discover their third path. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising — see you next week! | |||
| The Gap Between Great Idea and Great Program (And Why Most Therapists Never Cross It) | 08 Sep 2025 | 00:17:24 | |
In this episode, I'm talking about the invisible wall that stops most therapists from turning their brilliant program ideas into actual programs. You know the one - you've got this amazing concept that could genuinely help people, but every time you sit down to build it, you just... stare at the screen. Most therapists think this gap exists because they don't know enough or aren't qualified enough. The reality? You're stuck because your therapeutic training - the thing that makes you incredible in the therapy room - is actually working against you when it comes to program design. We're trained for responsive, individualised work, but programs need to be structured and predictable. I'm walking you through why this gap feels so insurmountable, what happens to most therapists who never cross it, and the simple framework that can help you bridge from "great idea" to "something people can actually follow." You'll understand why having expertise isn't enough and what you actually need to turn that knowledge into something sustainable. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE: The gap isn't about your qualifications – You're not stuck because you don't know enough. You're stuck because you're trying to turn expert knowledge into structured learning without a framework for how that translation actually works. Your therapeutic training creates the problem – We're conditioned to be responsive and comprehensive, accounting for every possible scenario. Programs need the opposite: clear, linear progression that works whether you're there or not. Most people either quit or overcompensate – Without a bridge across this gap, therapists either abandon their program dreams entirely or create something so complicated that no one completes it. Neither serves anyone. RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: That simple exercise I mentioned - writing down your program idea in one sentence, then asking "what's the ONE main transformation someone gets?" - that's actually just the first step in a bigger framework we dive deep into in the bootcamp. Join me for the From Couch to Course Bootcamp this September 23-26. For just $37, I'll walk you through exactly how to map, price, and structure your first ethical online program using frameworks designed specifically for how therapists think. In four focused days, you'll move from staring at that blank screen to having a clear roadmap for turning your expertise into something people can actually follow and complete. Secure your spot at therapistsrising.com/bootcamp MORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLY
SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode helped you see that gap differently, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more therapists who have brilliant ideas but need help turning them into reality. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week! | |||
| The Anti-Hustle Guide to Building Programs That Actually Sell | 04 Sep 2025 | 00:29:35 | |
In this episode, I'm dismantling the biggest myth therapists believe about creating online programs — that building one will just add more hustle and burnout to your already overwhelming life. We're no longer in the early days when therapists could assume that more hours worked equals more value delivered. Today's most successful therapist-entrepreneurs are rejecting hustle culture entirely and building programs that actually give them energy instead of draining it. What's winning? Programs designed around your natural strengths and energy patterns, not cookie-cutter templates. I'm breaking down why your therapy training is sabotaging your program design, the three biggest myths keeping you stuck in overwhelm, and how to build something sustainable that you'll actually enjoy running. You'll walk away with a completely new framework for thinking about programs — one that honours your need for flow, freedom, and sustainability. HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE: Your therapy conditioning is working against you – We've been trained to equate exhaustion with worth, so we unconsciously design programs that recreate the same burnout patterns we're trying to escape from private practice. Smaller, focused programs create more impact – Your students don't need everything you know. They need the right transformation delivered in a way that's sustainable for both you and them to complete successfully. Tools and pre-recording aren't shortcuts — they're smart strategy – Using AI for content creation, automation for admin tasks, and pre-recorded lessons for consistency frees up your energy for the high-value connection work you actually love. RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: You don't need to figure out your online program alone while juggling a full caseload. Join me for the From Couch to Course Bootcamp this September 23-26. For just $37, I'll walk you through exactly how to map, price, and structure your first ethical online program using evidence-based frameworks your clinical training will actually recognise. In four focused days, you'll move from "someday I'll figure this out" to having a clear, compliant roadmap — or get enough clarity to know this isn't your next step. Either way, you'll stop wondering "what if." Secure your spot at therapistsrising.com/bootcamp MORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLY
SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more therapists who are ready to build programs without the burnout. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week! | |||
| A Week in My Life After Stepping Away from Back-to-Back Sessions | 01 Sep 2025 | 00:18:50 | |
If you’ve been feeling burned out by back-to-back sessions, wondering if the only way to help people is to keep adding more clients to your calendar — you’re not alone. This episode pulls back the curtain on what life can look like when you step beyond the traditional therapy chair. I’m sharing a real, unfiltered week in my life as a therapist-turned-entrepreneur — the fun, messy, everyday realities of running a thriving online business while still making a meaningful impact. You’ll hear what it looks like to balance leadership, creativity, and connection, all while building a business that serves clients, students, and the broader community without burning out. Whether you’re dreaming of more freedom in your calendar, curious about creating multiple income streams, or simply tired of the endless cycle of individual therapy sessions, this episode shows you what’s possible — and why it’s closer than you think. If you’ve ever wondered how to serve beyond 1:1 without losing the depth and meaning of your work — or how to design a business that actually supports your life rather than consumes it — this episode is for you. HERE ARE THE 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:
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| Future-Ready Therapist: The Competencies That Will Define Our Profession | 27 Aug 2025 | 00:32:07 | |
If you've been feeling incredibly skilled at individual therapy but somehow underprepared for what mental health delivery actually looks like in 2025 - you're not alone. This episode addresses the growing disconnect between traditional therapy training and the evolving mental health landscape worldwide. I'm breaking down why qualified therapists globally can't meet the exploding demand for mental health support, and how unqualified voices are filling the spaces qualified therapists should occupy. You'll discover the five core competencies that Future-Ready Therapists are developing to remain relevant and impactful in the Mental Health 3.0 era. Whether you're frustrated by long waitlists, concerned about your profession's declining influence, or ready to expand your therapeutic impact beyond individual sessions - this episode provides the professional development framework you need. If you've been torn between staying in your traditional therapy lane and exploring innovative delivery models, or you're ready to lead your profession's evolution rather than react to it - this episode is for you.
Traditional training isn't keeping pace with global demand - Mental health services worldwide face unprecedented demand, with waitlists stretching months and qualified therapists unable to serve everyone who needs support. Mental Health 3.0 requires new professional competencies - Future-Ready Therapists need digital fluency, innovation design thinking, ethical navigation skills, systems leadership abilities, and professional authority development to remain impactful. Evidence-based interventions can scale beyond individual sessions - CBT principles work for hundreds of university students, trauma-informed approaches can be embedded in workplace policies, and therapeutic expertise can guide community-level programs while maintaining clinical integrity. Professional development is shifting from modalities to delivery methods - The next decade of therapist education isn't just about learning new treatments, but developing capabilities to deliver existing interventions where people are, at the scale they need. Continuing education requirements will soon include these competencies - Future-Ready Therapists are developing these skills proactively before they become mandatory, understanding that professional evolution is happening with or without their participation.
If this episode helped you understand the professional competencies needed for Mental Health 3.0 practice, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts here. Your support helps us reach more therapists ready to lead their profession's evolution. The mental health profession is evolving rapidly. Future-Ready Therapists aren't waiting for permission - they're leading the transformation while maintaining the highest clinical and ethical standards. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! | |||
| "Is This Even Safe?" How to Spot Program Ideas That Cross Professional and Ethical Boundaries | 25 Aug 2025 | 00:17:44 | |
If you've been sitting on a program idea but paralyzed by the question "Am I allowed to do this?" - you're not alone. This episode tackles the fear that keeps brilliant therapists stuck on the sidelines of the online space. I'm breaking down the critical difference between scope-safe and sketchy program positioning, using real examples of ideas that started with good intentions but crossed dangerous lines. You'll discover why following generic business advice can land therapists in hot water, and more importantly, how to spot the red flags before you invest months developing something risky. Whether you're worried about board complaints, accidentally attracting people in crisis, or just want confidence that your program idea is ethically sound - this episode gives you the practical checklist you need. If you've been torn between wanting to scale your impact and staying safely within your scope of practice, or you're tired of second-guessing every program idea you have - this episode is for you. HERE ARE THE 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE: Generic business advice is dangerous for therapists - "Teach what you're passionate about" sounds innocent, but when what you know is therapy, this advice can lead you straight into scope violations without realizing it. Language choices reveal everything - Words like "heal," "treat," "cure," "recovery," and "disorder" immediately signal clinical territory. If your marketing copy sounds therapeutic, you've probably crossed the line. Your audience type determines safety - Growth-seekers want optimization; help-seekers need intervention. Attracting people in crisis to educational programs creates ethical dilemmas and safety risks. Delivery method matters as much as content - Even scope-safe topics become problematic when delivered through inappropriate formats. Self-paced trauma content or group processing without therapeutic boundaries are recipe for disaster. Red flag spotting is reactive, not proactive - While identifying warning signs protects you from obvious mistakes, what therapists really need is a systematic way to evaluate ideas before developing them. RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
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SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW If this episode helped you feel more confident about evaluating your program ideas, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts here. Your support helps us reach more therapists who need practical guidance on creating impact while staying within professional boundaries. The online space doesn't have to be scary territory for therapists. With the right frameworks, you can create programs that transform lives while keeping your registration completely safe. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week! | |||
| The Profession Under Threat: A Call for Innovation and Advocacy with Sahra O'Doherty | 20 Aug 2025 | 00:55:59 | |
If you've been feeling like our profession is under siege, you're not imagining it. This episode dives deep into the systemic challenges facing Australian therapists and why staying silent is no longer an option. I'm sitting down with Sahra O'Doherty, President of the Australian Association of Psychologists (AAPI), for a conversation that will change how you think about your role as a therapist. Sahra reveals everything from the two-tier Medicare system to the Training Pathways Review that could completely overhaul psychology training in Australia. With 30-40% of Australians now seeking support from unregulated providers, we're at a crossroads. We can either evolve and innovate, or risk becoming obsolete. If you've felt torn between wanting to innovate and fearing professional backlash, or you're tired of feeling like our profession is being left behind - this episode is for you.
The profession is self-policing to a fault - Most AHPRA complaints come from other psychologists without collegial conversation first. This lateral violence keeps us small and scared. Innovation is now mandated, not optional - New core competencies coming December 2025 explicitly require psychologists to advocate for clients and health equity. Your comfort zone is no longer compliant practice. The substantial equivalence pathway is changing everything - Hundreds of psychologists are gaining endorsements in different areas, proving the arbitrary nature of the two-tier system. Training reform is coming - Complete overhaul of psychology training pathways in the next 3-5 years, focusing on job-readiness rather than academic research. Fear is keeping us irrelevant - While we stay paralyzed by compliance anxiety, other professions step into mental health spaces and government pushes psychology assistants as first-line interventions.
If this episode opened your eyes to what's really happening in our profession, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts here. Your support helps us reach more therapists who need to hear these crucial conversations. The psychology profession is at a turning point. The question isn't whether change is coming - it's whether we'll lead it or be left behind. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week! | |||
| Stop Overthinking Your Online Program Ideas: The Simple Filter That Cuts Through Analysis Paralysis | 18 Aug 2025 | 00:22:08 | |
If you have 17 half-baked course ideas sitting in a Google doc but can't choose which one to build, you're not just procrastinating—you're missing out on income and impact while your expertise sits unused. You've got brilliant insights and could help so many people. But when you can't decide between stress management for healthcare workers, communication skills for couples, or that trauma-informed approach you've been mulling over for months, analysis paralysis keeps you stuck on the sidelines. Meanwhile, those potential clients? They're buying programs from therapists who made a decision and took action. In this game-changing episode, you'll discover:
Key Mindset Shifts: ✓ Too many ideas without a filter equals zero programs Take Action This Week:
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| To Niche or Not to Niche: Why "Helping Everyone" Is Helping No One | 13 Aug 2025 | 00:33:02 | |
The hard truth: If you're trying to help everyone with your online program, you're actually helping no one—and it's killing your business before it even starts. You've got years of training and could help SO many people. But when you try to market to "everyone," your message becomes so vanilla that nobody feels seen. Those perfect clients? They're hiring someone who spoke directly to their specific pain.
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| When Everything Feels Like Too Much (And Why That's Actually Information) | 11 Aug 2025 | 00:20:36 | |
The online space keeps changing the rules the second you've figured them out. New algorithms, platform updates, economic uncertainty, and the constant pressure to keep up while holding space for clients—it's overwhelming, and it's real. But what if I told you that feeling like "everything is too much" isn't a sign you're failing? What if it's actually your business giving you crucial information about where you're at, what matters most, and where you're ready to grow? As therapists building businesses, we face a unique challenge: we're trained to create stability and hold space for others, but we're operating in a world of constant change and uncertainty. The skills that make us excellent clinicians can sometimes work against us when we need to navigate business pivots, market shifts, and the messy reality of entrepreneurship. The uncomfortable truth: Waiting for "normal" to return isn't a strategy—it's avoidance. While you're hiding in research mode or postponing decisions until things "settle down," the world keeps moving, and your people keep needing what you offer. In this essential episode, I break down:
The game-changer: You already have the skills to navigate uncertainty—you use them every day with clients. The challenge is applying that same wisdom to your own business growth instead of reverting to freeze, flight, or research-paralysis mode. Bottom Line: Your business isn't broken if it feels overwhelming right now. The world is shifting, industries are evolving, and building something meaningful has always required tolerance for the unknown. Your job isn't to figure it all out before you move—it's to take the next small, true step and trust your capacity to handle whatever comes next. 🎧 Ready to stop hiding and start moving? ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here - your reviews help overwhelmed therapists find episodes like this when they need them most! 📱 Let's connect! Message me on Instagram and tell me—where are you hiding right now, and what's one micro-action you could take this week? (I read every message and love hearing your breakthroughs!) - @dr.hayleykelly Keywords: therapist business overwhelm, uncertainty in online business, therapist entrepreneur anxiety, business decision making for therapists, overwhelmed mental health professionals, therapist business strategy, managing business anxiety, therapist burnout prevention, sustainable business growth therapists, clinical skills business application, nervous system business building, therapeutic entrepreneur support, business uncertainty navigation, therapist leadership development, mental health professional business coaching | |||
| Ethical Marketing for Therapists | 06 Aug 2025 | 00:41:14 | |
The marketing world feels gross because most of it IS gross. But what if I told you that ethical marketing isn't just possible—it's actually your secret weapon as a therapist? While other industries scramble to add "authenticity" to their marketing playbook, you've been practicing it your entire career. You already know how to influence ethically, build trust without manipulation, and create genuine transformation. You just didn't know it was marketing. The uncomfortable truth: Your humility might be beautiful, but if people can't find you, it becomes a barrier to your service. In a world where louder, less-trained voices are filling the vacuum, ethical visibility isn't just smart business—it's a public health necessity. In this essential episode, I break down:
The game-changer: You're not learning to market—you're learning to apply your existing clinical skills at scale. Your therapy training already taught you ethical influence, boundary management, and how to create safety and trust. Now it's time to use those superpowers to reach the people who need your help. Bottom Line: Ethical marketing isn't about becoming someone else—it's about becoming more you, just in public. Your clinical advantage gives you everything you need to market with integrity while others manipulate their way to sales. 🎧 Ready to transform your relationship with marketing? ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here - your reviews help ethical voices reach more therapists! 📱 Let's connect! Message me on Instagram and tell me—what was your biggest takeaway from this episode? (Yes, you—I actually read every message!)
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| When Colleagues Attack Your Marketing (And Why That's Actually Good News) | 04 Aug 2025 | 00:19:59 | |
You launched your program. Finally getting visible. Then it happens—colleagues start questioning your marketing, your methods, your motives. That knot in your stomach when you see posts criticising "aggressive marketing tactics" in professional groups? Wondering if they're talking about YOU? Here's what nobody tells you: when you do things differently, people don't react well. Not internet trolls—your peers, colleagues, even mentors. Colleague criticism isn't a sign you're doing something wrong—it's proof you're doing something RIGHT. This week, a Facebook post triggered hundreds of therapists by criticising marketing in our field. The irony? It used the exact tactics it condemned—creating urgency, amplifying problems, positioning the author as having the solution. What really happened: textbook human psychology. Your innovation forces others to question their choices, making your success feel like implicit criticism of their status quo. In this eye-opening episode, I break down:
The uncomfortable truth: Mental health field desperately needs ethical innovators willing to face criticism. Your colleagues questioning your visibility aren't your ideal clients—they're not searching at 2 AM wondering if anyone understands their struggle. Bottom Line: If you're building something meaningful and facing criticism, take it as validation you're onto something important. The people who need your innovation aren't the ones criticising it—they're desperately hoping someone brave will step up. 🎧 Ready to handle criticism like the leader you're becoming? ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here 🚀 Build your program without burning out: https://therapistsrising.com/incubator Keywords: therapist marketing ethics, colleague criticism therapy practice, professional evolution mental health, ethical business development therapists, innovation resistance helping professions, therapist entrepreneur challenges, therapeutic techniques marketing, mental health field transformation, therapist visibility fears, clinical expertise business applications | |||
| AI Just Killed the Course Industry (And Why Therapists Should Celebrate) | 30 Jul 2025 | 00:36:19 | |
The digital course world just got turned upside down. While course creators panic about AI making their businesses obsolete, therapists have a massive opportunity—if they act fast. The AI education market is exploding from $5.88 billion to $32 billion by 2030. Course creation now takes hours instead of months. Your future students already expect AI-powered, personalized learning experiences. What if I told you that while everyone else scrambles to compete with AI, you already have the one thing machines can't replicate—the ability to facilitate real transformation? While course creators are discovering that information doesn't create change, you've known this your entire career. You've always been a transformation guide, not an information provider. The market is finally catching up to what you've always understood. In this game-changing episode, I reveal:
The uncomfortable truth: Course creators built businesses on information delivery—and AI just made that obsolete. But therapists? You've always known real change happens through relationship and human connection. You're not behind—you're perfectly positioned to lead. Bottom Line: Therapists who use AI for efficiency while doubling down on human connection will lead their niches within 18 months. Those who ignore this transformation will compete against AI-generated content with outdated models. 🎧 Ready to leverage AI without losing your humanity? ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here. 🚀 Ready to build an AI-enhanced online course? Join The Incubator: https://therapistsrising.com/incubator Keywords: AI course creation for therapists, digital course industry transformation, AI education market trends, therapist online programs, AI tools for mental health professionals, course creation with artificial intelligence, digital transformation therapy practice, AI-powered learning platforms, online education revolution, therapist digital business models, AI content creation tools, mental health course development, therapeutic expertise vs AI, scaling therapy practice with technology, AI implementation for therapists, digital course market disruption, online learning transformation, AI education statistics 2025, therapist competitive advantage AI era, technology-enhanced therapy programs | |||
| Why Your Waitlist Isn't Success: A Conversation That Broke Me Open | 28 Jul 2025 | 00:20:39 | |
You've built your dream practice. You're booked solid. People are telling you "You've made it!" because you have 52 people on your waitlist. But instead of feeling successful, you're drowning. You wake up at 3am thinking about all the people you can't help. You feel guilty every time you take a day off. You're starting to realize that your "success" feels suspiciously like moral injury. Maybe you think a full practice means you're doing everything right. Maybe you've been told that waitlists are proof of your value and expertise. Maybe you're starting to suspect that trying to save everyone individually is slowly killing you—and leaving the people who need help most behind. What if I told you that your waitlist isn't proof you've succeeded—it's proof the system is fundamentally broken? While we're celebrating individual capacity metrics, we're missing a profound truth: the healing model we inherited was never designed to work. We're trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon, and then wondering why we're exhausted and people are still drowning. In this raw, unfiltered conversation, I share a call that changed everything:
Bottom Line: The system that creates waitlists—that makes healing scarce, keeps people isolated, and exhausts therapists—is counting on us being too tired to imagine anything different. But your waitlist isn't your fault. Staying stuck in a system that creates it when you know there's another way? That's a choice. Your colleague with 52 people waiting isn't failing. The system is. And maybe it's time we all chose differently. 🎧 Ready to break free from the broken system? ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here 📧 🚀 Ready to create healing that serves everyone—including you? Join other visionary therapists who are building sustainable, community-centered practices in The Incubator: https://therapistsrising.com/incubator Keywords: therapist waitlist problems, therapy practice burnout, broken mental health system, therapist moral injury, sustainable therapy practice, community-based healing, group therapy vs individual therapy, therapist capacity issues, mental health accessibility, healing in community, therapy practice transformation, therapist overwhelm, ethical therapy practice, systemic change in mental health, liberation-based therapy, collective healing approaches | |||
| Growing Alongside Your Dreams: How Motherhood Expands (Not Limits) Your Ambition with Lily Jimenez | 23 Jul 2025 | 00:47:02 | |
You've built the business. Maybe you've launched your first program. People are buying. Results are happening. But instead of feeling liberated, you're staring at your toddler's naptime thinking: "I have exactly 90 minutes to move the needle on my empire... no pressure." Maybe you think successful entrepreneurship means choosing between being a present mom or a powerful business owner. Maybe you've tried the "hustle harder" approach, felt like you were failing at everything, and wondered if ambitious dreams are just incompatible with goldfish crackers and bedtime routines. What if I told you that motherhood doesn't shrink your ambition—it expands it? While we're beating ourselves up for not having the capacity we used to have, we're missing the profound transformation that's actually happening: we're learning to build sustainably, lead authentically, and create with deeper purpose than ever before. In this episode, neurologic physical therapist and "neuropreneur" Lily Jimenez reveals:
Bottom Line: The difference between mom entrepreneurs who thrive and those who burn out isn't about having more time or energy—it's about honoring the season you're in while still moving toward the vision that lights you up. You don't have to earn your dreams by doing it all at once. You're allowed to grow small and slow. Your calling is still valid, even when your pace looks different than it used to. 🎧 Ready to redefine success on your own terms? ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here 🔗 Connect with Lily:
🚀 Ready to build a business that grows with you, not against you? Join other visionary therapists in The Incubator: https://therapistsrising.com/incubator Keywords: motherhood and entrepreneurship, mom entrepreneur balance, therapist mother business owner, building business with kids, entrepreneur mom guilt, sustainable business growth for moms, working mom entrepreneur tips, physical therapist entrepreneur, healthcare professional mother, balancing motherhood and career, mom entrepreneur mindset, neurologic physical therapy business, female entrepreneur with children, therapist work life balance, entrepreneurial motherhood | |||
| When the Plan Changes: A Real‑Time Lesson in Adaptability | 21 Jul 2025 | 00:09:58 | |
You’ve created your goals for the year, you have everything planned out. You know when all of your items need to be completed. But you don't seem to be making any progress. You cannot reach these goals. Life throws up unexpected items to derail your plan. What if you were given permission to adapt, to adjust your plan? This afternoon, our well‑crafted episode plan took a rain check—because life and capacity have their own ideas sometimes. Today, I (Rob Kelly) am stepping in behind the mic, not as backup, but as a real‑time model of adaptability in action. No fluff. No script. Just transparency about when the plan meets reality. In this episode, I cover:
Tune in to Learn what happens when vision collides with weekly reality. Your Homework:
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| LinkedIn for Therapists: How to Build Your Professional Presence in Just 15 Minutes a Day with Brenda Meller | 16 Jul 2025 | 00:59:03 | |
You've been avoiding it, haven't you? That little blue LinkedIn notification sitting in your email inbox, taunting you with connection requests you never respond to. Maybe you think LinkedIn is just for corporate salespeople in suits, not compassionate healers like you. Maybe you've tried posting once or twice, felt like a fraud trying to "market yourself," and promptly retreated back to the safety of your private practice bubble. What if I told you that avoiding LinkedIn isn't protecting your authenticity—it's limiting your impact? While we stay invisible on the one platform where our ideal referral partners are actively looking for us, we're missing conversations and opportunities that could transform our practices. In this episode, LinkedIn expert Brenda Meller reveals:
Bottom Line: The difference between therapists who have thriving referral networks and those who struggle in isolation isn't clinical skills—it's the willingness to show up professionally and build authentic relationships. 🎧 Ready to build your professional presence without compromising your values? ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here 🔗 Brenda's Resources:
🚀 Ready to diversify your practice? therapistsrising.com/incubator Keywords: LinkedIn for therapists, therapist professional networking, LinkedIn strategy for mental health professionals, therapist referral marketing, professional visibility for therapists, authentic networking for therapists, therapist business development, LinkedIn for healthcare professionals, therapist practice marketing, mental health professional networking, LinkedIn marketing without being salesy | |||
| Future-Proof Your Practice: 3 Shifts Therapists Can't Afford to Ignore | 14 Jul 2025 | 00:17:22 | |
You've felt it, haven't you? That creeping realization that the therapy world you trained for is disappearing faster than you can adapt. Maybe you've watched TikTok "healers" with zero qualifications book out $2000 programs while you're drowning in twelve-month waitlists and Medicare paperwork. Maybe you've seen colleagues burn out, leave the profession, or settle for jobs that barely pay the bills—despite having skills that could transform lives at scale. What if I told you that staying in your lane isn't protecting your career—it's limiting it? While we follow every rule and stay perfectly compliant, the world around us is shifting at lightning speed. But here's what I know: you don't have to watch from the sidelines while everything changes around you. In this episode, I reveal:
Bottom Line: The difference between therapists who thrive in the next decade and those who get left behind isn't clinical skills—we've all got those. It's the willingness to evolve your identity, diversify your revenue, and show up visibly in service of the people who need your help. 🎧 Ready to future-proof your practice? Here's how to take action: ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here and tell me which shift resonates most with your situation ✅ Follow so you don't miss future episodes! 🔗 Links & Resources 🚀 Ready to build a practice that works for the world we're actually living in? Learn about The Incubator — where therapists become therapeutic innovators: therapistsrising.com/incubator 📲 Connect with me: @dr.hayleykelly 🎙 More episodes: therapistsrising.com/podcast Keywords: future proof therapy practice, therapist entrepreneurship, therapy business diversification, therapist revenue streams, online therapy programs, therapy practice sustainability, therapist business skills, mental health innovation, therapy practice evolution, clinical skills business application, therapist professional development, therapy industry changes, therapeutic entrepreneurship, therapist income diversification, therapy practice modernization, mental health business strategies, therapist career pivot, therapy practice resilience, therapeutic innovation strategies, therapist business growth | |||
| I Got Banned from LinkedIn.... Twice: What Happens When Therapists Speak Up | 09 Jul 2025 | 00:24:10 | |
You've been feeling it too, haven't you? That sense that something is deeply wrong with our mental health system. Maybe you've drafted posts about impossible caseloads or regulations that harm more than they help. But every time you go to hit publish, you stop. What if this gets back to my employer? What if speaking up puts everything at risk? Two weeks ago, I stopped asking "what if" and found out exactly what happens when a therapist refuses to stay quiet. I got banned from LinkedIn. Twice. Not for being unprofessional—but for telling the truth about a system that's failing us. This episode isn't about my LinkedIn drama. It's about the choice every therapist faces: stay safe and silent, or speak up and face the consequences. In this episode, I share:
Bottom Line: The mental health system will not reform itself. Permission to speak up isn't coming. The cost of waiting for someone else to fix what's broken is too high—for us and for those who need our help. 🎧 Love this episode? Here's how to help it reach more therapists: ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here and share what truth you've been too scared to speak 🔗 Links & Mentions 🔥 Ready to stop playing small with other therapists who refuse to be silenced? Learn about The Incubator — where we build businesses that disrupt systems instead of serving them: therapistsrising.com/incubator 📲 Follow me (while they let me): @dr.hayleykelly Featured voices:
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| How to Stay Visible (Even When You're Terrified of Being Reported) | 07 Jul 2025 | 00:17:07 | |
You've created an incredible program. You have valuable insights to share. You know your work could help so many people. But every time you go to hit 'publish' on that post about your offer, you freeze. What if someone reports me? What if I say the wrong thing? What if this puts my registration at risk? If this sounds familiar, you're not alone. Almost every therapist I work with struggles with visibility fear — especially when they're moving beyond traditional therapy into coaching, online programs, or digital offerings. Today, I'm sharing the exact 3-step framework I use with therapists to help them stay visible online without compromising their safety, values, or professional registration. This isn't about throwing caution to the wind. It's about building clarity and courage so you can show up authentically while staying compliant and confident. In this episode, I share:
Bottom Line: Your voice matters, your work matters, and there are people who need to hear exactly what you have to say. Don't let fear keep them from finding you. 🎧 Love this episode? Here's how to help it reach more therapists: ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here and tell me your biggest visibility fear 🔗 Links & Mentions 🚀 Ready for supported visibility practice? Learn more about the Incubator — where therapists practice showing up safely in community: therapistsrising.com/incubator 📲 Follow me: @dr.hayleykelly Keywords: therapist marketing ethics, therapist social media compliance, AHPRA social media guidelines, therapist visibility fear, ethical therapist marketing, therapist online presence, therapy to coaching transition, therapist registration safety, professional boundaries online, therapist content creation, ethical business promotion for therapists, therapist social media anxiety, therapy marketing compliance, professional visibility for therapists, therapist online marketing guidelines, ethical promotion strategies therapists, therapist business visibility, mental health professional marketing, therapist content strategy, therapy practice promotion | |||
| The Science and Ethics of Psychedelic Therapy: What Every Therapist Needs to Know, with Dori Lewis | 02 Jul 2025 | 01:14:39 | |
A 19-year-old client sits on his couch staring at a wall for 8 hours a day. He's been in therapy for two years. He's planned his suicide for his 20th birthday. Traditional therapy isn't working. Three ketamine sessions later, he's dating someone, has a job, and is learning to snowboard. This isn't a miracle story. It's Tuesday for Dori Lewis. In this eye-opening conversation, I sit down with Dori Lewis — licensed professional counselor, clinical supervisor, and co-founder of Elemental Psychedelics, one of Colorado's first DORA-approved psychedelic training programs. Dori's journey began with her own psychedelic trauma — being given DMT without consent, then spending four months in Asia integrating the experience. That traumatic weekend forged her into one of the most ethically-grounded voices in psychedelic medicine. From facilitating nearly 100 ketamine sessions to training psilocybin facilitators, Dori lives at the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern therapy. She's not here to sell you on psychedelics — she's here to give you the unfiltered truth about what this work really entails. In this episode, we discuss:
Bottom Line: Psychedelic therapy isn't replacing traditional therapy — it's amplifying it. But only with proper training, ethical foundations, and deep respect for holding altered states. 🎧 Love this episode? Here's how to help it reach more therapists: ✅ Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts here and tell me what surprised you most 🔗 Links & Mentions 🍄 Connect with Dori Lewis: 📲 Follow me: @dr.hayleykelly Keywords: psychedelic therapy training, psilocybin therapy, ketamine assisted psychotherapy, psychedelic facilitator training, Colorado psilocybin law, psychedelic therapy ethics, psychedelic therapy screening, ketamine therapy for depression, psychedelic integration therapy, elemental psychedelics Colorado, DORA approved psychedelic training, psychedelic healing centers, cultural appropriation psychedelics, therapist psychedelic training, underground psychedelic therapy, psychedelic therapy safety, psychedelic therapy business model, therapist career diversification | |||
| How to Create Low-Cost Mini Offers That Turn Strangers Into High-Ticket Clients | 30 Jun 2025 | 00:26:02 | |
You've launched your signature program. You know it works. But there's a massive gap between people saying "I'm interested" and actually pulling out their credit card for $2,000. What if there's a way to bridge that gap—not by discounting your course—but by creating "quick win offers" that actually make people MORE likely to buy your signature program? Welcome back to Tuesday Tiny Wins—where we get straight to the point with one tool you can implement TODAY.
Wrong: Try to solve their biggest problem in a mini offer
Formula: The [time] [method] that [solves problem] in [situation]
Scope: Keep it psychoeducational—teaching skills, not therapy
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📱 Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly Keywords: therapist mini offers, low-cost digital products, gateway strategy, quick win offers, therapist marketing, signature program pre-sell, therapy business model, trust recession, therapist pricing strategy | |||
| 970 Million People Need Help & We Only Have 1 Million Therapists Worldwide - The Math Is Broken | 25 Jun 2025 | 00:30:47 | |
The system you dedicated your career to was designed wrong from the beginning. Not broken — designed wrong. 970 million people globally need mental health support. We have approximately 1 million mental health professionals. The math isn't just broken — it reveals a system that was never built to serve the people who need it most. In this paradigm-shifting episode, I expose the uncomfortable truth: Mental Health 1.0 was designed for social control. Mental Health 2.0 was designed for good intentions. But Mental Health 3.0 — what I'm describing today — is the first paradigm being designed for actual results. While mental health professionals burn out trying to fix unfixable systems, tech companies are building Mental Health 3.0 solutions without us. The question isn't whether this transformation will happen. It's whether you'll help build it... or watch someone else do it. In this episode, we unpack:
The Five Mental Health 3.0 Principles:
Bottom Line: Early movers will have massive advantages. Late adopters will be following someone else's vision of the future you could have helped create. 🎧 Ready to be part of the Mental Health 3.0 revolution? ✅ Rate & Review — Help other professionals discover this paradigm shift. Tap here for Apple Podcasts. ✅ Share — Text this to therapists ready to think beyond traditional practice models. 🔗 Connect: Instagram @dr.hayleykelly | LinkedIn: Dr. Hayley Kelly | therapistsrising.com Keywords: Mental Health 3.0, therapeutic innovation, mental health workforce crisis, therapy system transformation, community mental health innovation, therapeutic innovator, mental health revolution, therapy practice evolution | |||
| The Quiet Revolution Already Happening (And Three Ways to Join It Today) | 23 Jun 2025 | 00:20:45 | |
You were trained to stay quiet. To follow rules written for a world that no longer exists. To accept that your expertise should be sanitized into beige compliance. But what if everything you've been told about "staying safe" is actually keeping you small? In this raw, unfiltered episode, I pull back the curtain on what happened after my viral LinkedIn post broke the internet — and more importantly, what it revealed about the quiet revolution already happening in mental health. When therapists get investigated for posting anxiety tips while unqualified influencers sell $2,000 "trauma healing" courses, something is deeply broken. But buried in the 1,000+ shares and hundreds of comments was proof that change isn't coming, it's already here. If you've ever felt like the system is working against you instead of for you, this episode will show you exactly how to be part of the solution. In this episode, we discuss:
The Three Revolutionary Actions:
Bottom Line: The revolution isn't happening in boardrooms or policy committees. It's happening with practitioners who care more about impact than approval. Who choose to be first, not perfect. 🎧 Love this episode? Here's how to help it reach more therapists who need to hear this: ✅ Rate & Review the Show Scroll down on Apple Podcasts here and tap to leave a 5-star rating Click "Write a Review" and tell me which revolutionary action you're committing to this week ✅ Follow for Future Episodes Hit that follow button so you don't miss Episode 202: "The Three Types of Therapists (And Why Only One Survives What's Coming)" ✅ Share the episode Text it to a therapist friend who's tired of pretending everything is fine. Or share on socials with: "This episode gave me permission to stop waiting for permission." 🔗 Links & Mentions 📱 Connect with me: Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly LinkedIn: Dr. Hayley Kelly 📚 Mentioned in this episode: Keywords: mental health revolution, therapist revolution, mental health system broken, mental health innovation, therapy system change, therapist leadership, therapy supervision questions, therapist policy changes, mental health system failures, therapist courage, mental health reform, therapist empowerment, therapy practice innovation, therapist authenticity | |||
| From 190-Person Waitlist to Million-Dollar Boardroom Decisions with Carly Fisher | 18 Jun 2025 | 01:03:54 | |
You were trained to think psychology equals therapy chair. To believe "business skills" are something other people have. To accept that your expertise stops at the consulting room door. But what if everything you've been told about your limitations is wrong? In this game-changing conversation, I sit down with Carly Fisher — registered psychologist, government executive, board director, and living proof that therapists possess the exact skills businesses pay consultants millions for. Carly went from a 190-person therapy waitlist in rural Australia to making strategic decisions for million-dollar organisations. She didn't get an MBA to "fix" her psychology background — she got it to amplify the superpowers she already had. If you've ever thought "I'm just a therapist — I don't have business skills" — this conversation will shatter every limiting belief you've been carrying. In this episode, we discuss:
The Four Therapist Superpowers:
Bottom Line: You don't need to learn new skills. You need to learn how to translate the ones you already have. 🎧 Love this episode? Here's how to help it reach more therapists who need to hear this: ✅ Rate & Review the Show ✅ Follow for Future Episodes ✅ Share the episode 🔗 Links & Mentions 📱 Connect with Carly Fisher: 📲 Follow me: @dr.hayleykelly Keywords: therapist business skills, psychology to business transition, therapist career change, case formulation strategic planning, therapist superpowers, psychology business consulting, therapist executive roles, therapy skills transferable, psychologist board director, rural business strategy, therapist MBA, psychology organizational development, mental health business opportunities, therapist entrepreneur, therapy to consulting pathway | |||
| Why I Can’t Stay Quiet Anymore: What Our Mental Health System Isn’t Ready to Face | 16 Jun 2025 | 00:33:22 | |
You were trained to be ethical. To follow the rules. To keep yourself out of the spotlight and let the system guide the way. But what happens when the system itself is no longer fit for purpose? In this milestone episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on a truth I’ve been sitting with for a long time — and the reckoning that finally made me say, “I can’t keep pretending this is working.” This isn’t a celebration. It’s a confession. A call to those of us who’ve felt the discomfort of playing small while the field we love becomes harder to recognize. You’ll hear the story behind my 2016 keynote that went silent, the inner war between staying beloved and speaking what’s true, and the unignorable patterns I’ve witnessed after mentoring hundreds of therapists trying to do business ethically — but innovatively — in a profession that resists both. If you've ever wondered:
…this one’s for you. In this episode, I discuss:
If you’ve ever felt like you’re breaking some invisible contract just by wanting more — more impact, more honesty, more space to grow — this is the episode that will name what you’ve been carrying. 🎧 Love this episode? Here’s how to help it reach more therapists: ✅ Rate & Review the Show ✅ Follow for Future Episodes ✅ Share the episode 🔗 Links & Mentions 📲 Follow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly Keywords: therapist business evolution, mental health system broken, fear of visibility therapy, ethical marketing for therapists, scaling therapy business, therapist identity crisis, therapy innovation, Mental Health 3.0, therapy ethics vs visibility, burnout in private practice, alternative therapist business models | |||
| The Real Reason You’re Avoiding Visibility, Higher Pricing, and Growth | 11 Jun 2025 | 00:35:19 | |
Ever find yourself sabotaging your own success the moment things start working? Yeah, I see you there - saying no to opportunities that could expand your reach, undercharging like it's a badge of honor, or suddenly deciding your perfectly good program needs to be "better" before you can launch it. Here's the thing nobody talks about in our field: you're not afraid of failing. You're terrified of succeeding. And after working with hundreds of therapists trying to break free from the traditional one-to-one model, I can tell you this fear is keeping some of the most talented, ethical practitioners I know playing impossibly small. In this episode, I'm getting real about fear of success - the hidden saboteur that's probably running way more of your business decisions than you realize. I share my own story about watching my dad's version of "success" (spoiler: it involved never being home and a stressed-out family), and why I unconsciously decided I wanted nothing to do with that life. Whether you're stuck in pricing guilt, marketing resistance, or that voice saying "who am I to charge premium rates," this episode gives you the psychological insights and practical tools to rewrite your success story without becoming someone you hate. Today, I discuss:
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Keywords: fear of success, therapist entrepreneur, scaling therapy practice, diversifying income, pricing guilt, marketing resistance, sustainable success, therapy business growth, imposter syndrome, breaking traditional therapy models | |||