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Lucy Letby is a child killer. Last year she was convicted of murdering seven babies and trying to murder six more while working as a neo-natal nurse at the Countess of Chester Hospital, in the NW of England and was sentenced to spend her life in jail.
She also went back in court to face a retrial on one charge the jury could not reach a verdict on - the alleged Attempted Murder of a premature baby girl, known as Baby K. She was found guilty once again.
Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham.
In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts.
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As it’s revealed Lucy Letby has changed her legal team this special episode takes a look at what is causing rampant speculation amongst both experts and the general public that Lucy Letby’s conviction could have been ‘unsafe’. We speak to Professor Jane Hutton, who signed a letter calling for an extension to the scope of the Inquiry as she questions the statistical evidence that was provided in court.
Liz and Caroline then go onto discuss Letby’s legal position with Tim Owen, KC, a barrister with a wealth of experience in returning cases to appeal. He offers a frank and precise analysis of the very limited options left open to the former nurse and her legal team.
We then look ahead to the Inquiry—which commences on Tuesday 10th September—and the three key findings it will aim to establish.
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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull
Guests: Professor Jane Hutton and Tim Owen, KC
Producer: Caroline Cheetham
Editor: Buddy Peace
Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance
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2: The Inquiry : Here We Are Again
Saison 3 · Épisode 2
mercredi 11 septembre 2024 • Durée 25:51
Following the trial and conviction of neonatal nurse Lucy Letby, The Thirlwall Inquiry has been set up to examine the events at the Countess of Chester Hospital that surrounded the murder and attempted murder of multiple babies. It began today, Tuesday 10th September 2024, at Liverpool Town Hall. In this episode Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull discuss the very first day of the hearing as the opening statements by chair, Lady Justice Thirlwall and counsel to the Inquiry, Rachel Langdale KC, are delivered to an emotionally charged chamber.
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3: The Inquiry: They Should Be Ashamed
Saison 3 · Épisode 3
vendredi 13 septembre 2024 • Durée 44:31
We are now at the end of the first week of the Thirlwall Inquiry set up to establish how Lucy Letby was able to get away with murdering babies on an NHS hospital ward for so long.
Already, damaging testimony has been delivered about how multiple attempts to raise the alarm went unheeded, and delays in calling in the police cost babies' lives. Why were managers slow to act? What action could or should the hospital have taken? And what urgently needs to change within our healthcare system to stop something similar ever happening again?
Join Caroline and Liz as they bring you the very latest.
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4: The Inquiry: They Never Gave Up
Saison 3 · Épisode 4
mercredi 18 septembre 2024 • Durée 27:23
In this episode we hear evidence from two mothers whose babies were murdered by Lucy Letby on the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
They detail a lack of disclosure and poor communication from the hospital. They confirm the consequences of the hospital managers’ delay in contacting the police and the lack of accountability felt at the time and ever since. Their distressing and emotive testimony lays bare how responsible many of the parents feel the Countess was in allowing Letby to harm their newborns and the devastating impact this has had on their lives.
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5: The Inquiry: A Hunch Should Be Enough
Saison 3 · Épisode 5
vendredi 20 septembre 2024 • Durée 36:55
Join Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull as they cover the latest evidence from the Thirlwall Inquiry, which is examining how Lucy Letby was able to commit murder whilst working at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
In this episode we recount the experiences of the parents of five babies who were killed or harmed by the neonatal nurse through their first-hand testimony. We hear how they came to question her actions and behaviour, and learn more about how and when, they say the hospital fell short in safeguarding the children in its care.
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Voice Actors: Olivia Tarr, Hannah Veness and Rowan Polonski
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6: The Inquiry: Lies & Cover-ups
Saison 3 · Épisode 6
vendredi 27 septembre 2024 • Durée 36:29
Caroline and Liz are back with the latest from The Thirlwall Inquiry which is continuing to investigate how Lucy Letby was able to commit murder at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
In this episode we hear the testimony from 8 parents who had babies on the neonatal unit. The same themes recur again and again. We hear how the families’ search for answers fell upon deaf ears. Many describe their regret at putting their trust in the hospital and its staff. They detail the hospital’s failure to disclose information they say was crucial in preventing more babies from being harmed and how, in some circumstances, this non-disclosure amounted to lies and concealment. We also learn more about the implied relationship Lucy Letby had with a married doctor that may point to a motive for the harm she caused.
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Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan, Emma Beggan, Evie Killip, Aiden James, Grace Clark, Michelle Lehane, Natalie Durkin, Sebastian Birtles
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7: The Inquiry: Doctors vs Nurses
Saison 3 · Épisode 7
vendredi 4 octobre 2024 • Durée 35:48
In this episode Caroline and Liz have the evidence from some of the doctors who worked on the ward with Lucy Letby. They all told the inquiry the numbers of babies collapsing and dying caused staff to think the unthinkable - that a member of staff was harming babies.
Once they did raise concerns with managers they were wrongly told a review had cleared Lucy Letby and they were ordered to write her a letter of apology.
We also heard this week that that senior nurses told the consultants they were incorrect about their suspicions, and, months after she was removed from the ward, they invited Lucy Letby to the staff Christmas party.
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Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan, Emma Beggan, Evie Killip, Aiden James, Grace Clark, Michelle Lehane, Natalie Durkin, Sebastian Birtles
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8: The Inquiry: Doctor U
Saison 3 · Épisode 8
lundi 14 octobre 2024 • Durée 40:53
Caroline and Liz are back with the latest from The Thirlwall Inquiry which is continuing to investigate how Lucy Letby was able to commit murder at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
In this episode we hear from Doctor U, the married doctor who prosecutors at Lucy Letby's trial described as her boyfriend and who she denied having an affair with.
He tells the inquiry he didn’t suspect her of causing harm and actively encouraged her to gain more work and valuable experiences at another hospital - even after suspicions were raised and she was suspended from working with patients at the Countess of Chester. He now says he feels manipulated.
We also hear Lucy Letby’s own thoughts via an email and letter she sent to her fellow nurses and the consultants who blamed her for the babies deaths. She claims she is totally innocent and requests her colleagues be ‘sensitive’ and supportive’ of her when she returns to the neo-natal unit.
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9: The Inquiry: The ‘Favourite’
Saison 3 · Épisode 9
vendredi 18 octobre 2024 • Durée 34:17
Caroline and Liz are back with the latest from The Thirlwall Inquiry which is continuing to investigate how Lucy Letby was able to commit murder at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
In this episode we learn more about Letby’s character and behaviour from her fellow nurses working closely with her on the neonatal unit. We are told she initially failed her final year placement as her mentor felt she lacked the requisite professionalism and empathy for a children’s nursing role. We then hear from the manager of the neonatal unit for the first time. Eirian Powell supported Lucy Letby, even when she had been moved off frontline nursing because of the doctors’ concerns. She said she couldn’t believe she had done anything wrong.
We are also given examples of some of the serious mistakes Letby made that were flagged by her colleagues and how eventually enough evidence amassed that she was involved in the collapse of multiple babies that her position on the unit became ‘untenable’.
Welcome to Episode 9: The Favourite
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10: The Inquiry: Drawer of Doom
Saison 3 · Épisode 10
vendredi 25 octobre 2024 • Durée 40:40
In this episode we hear from the nursing manager who got ‘too close’ to Lucy Letby, sending her chummy messages telling her to ‘hang on in there, girl,’ after police were called in. Karen Rees said she felt ‘bullied’ by a consultant when he called her at home to demand Lucy Letby was
removed from the ward, after she murdered two triplet brothers in quick succession. He claimed to have a ‘drawer of doom’ about Lucy Letby but senior nurses believed she was being made a scapegoat for poor medical care. Mrs Rees also revealed she later begged hospital bosses to call in the police so they could get some answers. We also hear from the lead risk midwife, Annemarie Lawrence, who said relationships between the doctors and the nurses on the
neo-natal unit had broken down by the time she started work at the hospital. She also said Lucy Letby’s redeployment into the Risk and Patient Safety Department was inappropriate because it meant she could look at patient’s notes and critical reports which linked her to the babies’ deaths.
Welcome to Episode 10: Drawer of Doom
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