A minosode! Again!

The Sundae Presents returns to our primordial ooze to talk about great performances that are only one scene long. This time: David Bowie as Pontius Pilate in one scene in The Last Temptation of Christ (1988).

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In the quintus episode of FFS, Ciara and Conor continue their discussion of the giallo genre with a deep dive on Lucio Fulci's 1972 masterpiece, Don't Torture a Duckling. Spoilers abound!

The Giallo Files: ⁠⁠https://giallofiles.blogspot.com/⁠Ciara's Fangoria article about Don't Torture a Duckling: ⁠https://www.fangoria.com/lucio-fulci-so-much-more-than-the-godfather-of-gore-dont-torture-a-duckling-at-50/⁠

Ciara makes Dean finally watch Winter Brothers, the debut film of their favourite Icelandic director, Hlynur Pálmason. They talk about its desolate landscapes, haunting ambiguities and floppy dicks.

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Jessica Kiang's review of Winter Brothers: https://variety.com/2017/film/reviews/winter-brothers-review-1202513383/

Roger Ebert's review of Joe Versus the Volcano: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/joe-versus-the-volcano-1990

Professor Martyn Poliakoff explains the iodine clock reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWJpKNQfXWo

Dean makes Ciara watch a fourth film shot in his hometown, an Arthurian epic by Exorcist II director John Boorman: Excalibur, which features zero locust POV and tons of before-they-were-famous casting. They talk about Cahir Castle, Gabriel Byrne's soap opera career, and what are movies even supposed to be like, anyway?

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Top Gun: Maverick: The Sundae Presents Bonus Episode 5: https://thesundae.net/2023/07/30/top-gun-maverick-the-sundae-presents-bonus-episode-5/

SCTV - Jerry Lewis Live on the Champs Elysees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgwVdVmazYA

For the first episode of the year, Ciara chose John Ford's late career masterpiece The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance as Dean's third encounter with both Ford and John Wayne. They talk about its unusually unscenic take on the frontier, the role of violence in politics and how it reflects on the western's place in American culture.

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David Coursen on The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance: https://parallax-view.org/2009/05/21/john-fords-wilderness-the-man-who-shot-liberty-valance/

Kent Jones on Quentin Tarantino on John Ford: https://www.filmcomment.com/article/intolerance-quentin-tarantino-john-ford/

2024 is gonna be jerkin'. Keep your eyes peeled. Or your ears, I guess.

In our Christmas special, Ciara makes Dean fulfil his only goal before turning 30: finally watching Die Hard. They talk about masculinity, Christmas movies, and who was offered the role before Bruce Willis.

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Dean fulfils a long-held ambition to introduce Ciara to his boys, director Joseph Losey and actor Dirk Bogarde, with their 1963 film The Servant. They talk about its homoeroticism, the class anxieties of 60s London and whether Dean hates James Fox.

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Josephine Botting on The Servant for BFI: https://www.bfi.org.uk/features/servant-dirk-bogarde-joseph-losey-harold-pinter

Colm Tóibín on The Servant for Criterion: https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/8180-the-servant-a-cruel-servility

Ciara gets to show Dean a film for the first time in months, and it's a big one: John Schlesinger's multi-Oscar-winning Midnight Cowboy. They talk about disability, poverty and sexuality, its satire of Andy Warhol's Factory and how dumb Joe Buck is.

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Roger Ebert on Midnight Cowboy in the 90s: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/midnight-cowboy-1969-1

For our third Halloween Spooktacular, Dean shows Ciara one of the most iconic horror films of their adolescence: Saw. They talk about how it riffs on and/or rips off Se7en, the strange politics of John Kramer, and the shadow of the real torture of the Bush administration.

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"Hollywood, the Bush Years, and America’s Memory Hole" by Ciara in Current Affairs: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/11/hollywood-the-bush-years-and-americas-memory-hole

The Sundae Presents, Episode 8: The Evil Dead / Evil Dead II: https://thesundae.net/2021/10/24/the-evil-dead-evil-dead-ii-the-sundae-presents-episode-8/

After months of broken promises and outright lies, it's here: Ciara and Dean finally dig into Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny. They talk about the origin of the titular band, its religious epic structure, and why Jack Black swore to never write another film.

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I Miss You More Than I Did Yesterday: https://thesundae.net/2019/05/20/i-miss-you-more-than-i-did-yesterday/

In a second back-to-back guest episode, the lads are joined by their friend Josh O'Reilly (@snowboiiii on Twitch!) to chat about Richard Linklater's romance classic Before Sunset. They talk about his collaborative creative process with stars Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy, the transient nature of memory, and how much Jesse hates his wife.

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For Christmas, Dean made Ciara watch a recent film he hopes will become a new seasonal classic: Adult Swim Yule Log. They talk about traumatic guilt, Americana and the death of television.

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Too Many Cooks: https://youtu.be/QrGrOK8oZG8

In the first of two more guest episodes, Ciara and Dean are joined by Dr. David Clare to discuss the Farrelly brothers' lost child, Outside Providence. They talk about its odd place in their filmography, its portrayal of Irish-American identity, and how much Gabriel Mann looks like James Spader in Pretty in Pink.

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It's another emergency episode from our top secret vault! Dean finally got around to watching Top Gun: Maverick, so Ciara finally got to grill him about it. They talk about the original film, the death of the film star and how Tom Cruise saved cinema.

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Ciara takes Dean back to 1946 with The Best Years of Our Lives, William Wyler's kitchen sink epic about soldiers returning from World War II. They talk about Harold Russell's double-Oscar-winning performance as Homer Parrish, Gregg Toland's groundbreaking deep focus cinematography and why Ayn Rand tried to complain about the film in Congress.

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1982 interview with Harold Russell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYpsnvyzJNI

It's The Long Goodbye, and it happens every day! Dean turns the tables on Ciara and shows her a classic seventies film widely considered among the greatest ever made, Robert Altman's neo-noir classic, starring Elliott Gould as Philip Marlowe. They talk about its portrayal of post-Manson L.A., the many iterations of its title song and the security guard's amazing celebrity impressions.

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The sexy Muppet tweet: ⁠https://twitter.com/CBThorburn/status/1251103369428680705⁠

The lads kick off season three with a classic rom-com as Ciara makes Dean watch James L. Brooks' As Good As It Gets. They talk about What It Gets Right About Mental Illness, the finer details of Jack Nicholson's performance and whether Melvin should have got the girl.

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"Helen Hunt" by Hank Green: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRQ3uPidEc

For the finale of Love at Worst Sight, Ciara showed Dean the (theatrical release of the) sole horror film by one-of-a-kind sexsploitation director Doris Wishman: A Night to Dismember. They talk about how she cobbled it together after the original cut was lost (and found), the purity (and perversity) of its auteurist vision and Wishman's place within (and outside) the history of cinema.

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List of films considered the worst: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst

A Night to Dismember (Theatrical Cut): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LsDk6y63_0

A Night to Dismember (Lost Cut): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTDsxDEHaS0

Doris Wishman and Roger Ebert on Late Night with Conan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-LCPd1ThsI

It's part three of Love at Worst Sight, so Dean showed Ciara a legendary bit of trash: The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies!!? They talk about some fun stories from its production, the naive artistry of its best parts and whether the main character is the worst boyfriend of all time.

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List of films considered the worst: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst

Best of the Worst: Blood Shack (aka The Chooper): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8qGSkcX6R0

Short segment on The Pike amusement park from “I Remember Long Beach”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkRp8bfO4hM

Notes on "Camp" by Susan Sontag: https://monoskop.org/images/5/59/Sontag_Susan_1964_Notes_on_Camp.pdf

In the second episode of Love at Worst Sight, Ciara finally makes Dean watch Elaine May's iconic comic flop Ishtar. They talk about its legendarily troubled production, how it became a punchline and why it deserves to be reclaimed.

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You Should Watch Ishtar: https://thesundae.net/2019/10/28/you-should-watch-ishtar/

Roger Ebert's review of Ishtar: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/ishtar-1987

In the first episode of their new miniseries, Love at Worst Sight, Dean puts Ciara through the ordeal of M. Night Shyamalan's infamous flop The Happening. They talk about whether it's funny, whether it's meant to be funny, and how it could possibly have ended up like that.

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List of films considered the worst: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst

In Defense of The Happening (Yes, Really): https://thesundae.net/2017/07/09/in-defense-of-the-happening-yes-really/

Roger Ebert's review of The Happening: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-happening-2008

For the first time ever, we have a guest! Darren Mooney of The Escapist and The 250 joined the pod to show Ciara and Dean a film neither of them had seen: Michael Mann's 2006 big-screen adaptation of Miami Vice. They talk about Colin Farrell's accent, Jamie Foxx fleeing the set mid-production and why a Miami Vice film barely takes place in Miami.

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Episode 22, Spring Breakers: https://thesundae.net/2022/11/15/spring-breakers-the-sundae-presents-episode-22/

NOTE: We received a message from Spotify for Creators stating that it had identified copyrighted third-party content in our podcast. This is incorrect.

The theme music for our podcast is Antonin Vivaldi Violin Concerto in G Minor, RV315 ‘Summer’. The particular recording used was downloaded from Musopen.com, a non-profit which produces and disseminates public domain music via recordings, sheet music and educational resources concerning Western classical music. The licence for using this specific download was identified on Musopen.com as Public Domain Mark 1.0 Universal.

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Summary and Links:

In the Quatro episode of FFS, Ciara and Conor discuss the genre of giallo, including the films in the title of this episode and Stagefright Aquarius, Blood and Black Lace, Pieces, Lizard in a Woman's Skin and Bird With the Crystal Plumage.

Will we ever find out happened to Solange?

A year after Whedon v Snyder, it's another "versus" episode: Dean brought Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai and Ciara brought its US remake The Magnificent Seven. They look at how each film examines the cultural figures of the samurai and cowboy, what changed in adaptation (and what didn't), and how much craic they are.

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The Rashomon Effect Effect: https://thesundae.net/2018/05/20/the-rashomon-effect-effect/

Episode 10, Ikiru: https://thesundae.net/2021/12/19/ikiru-the-sundae-presents-episode-10/

It's an emergency episode! (Though maybe not released on an emergency schedule.) Ciara watched Zack Snyder's 2009 film adaptation of Watchmen, so she and Dean recorded an episode about it. They talk about the assassination of JFK, whether Rorschach is cool and the absence of a squid.

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Episode 12, Whedon v Snyder: The Justice League Special: https://thesundae.net/2022/01/26/whedon-v-snyder-the-justice-league-special-the-sundae-presents-episode-12/

Happy holidays! For our second Christmas Special, Dean showed Ciara that timeless seasonal classic, Lynne Ramsay's 2002 suicide drama Morvern Callar. They talked about how funny it is, whether the main character is a psychopath and if it's even a Christmas film.

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Ciara on Ms .45 in Crooked Marquee: https://crookedmarquee.com/a-woman-waging-war-ms-45-at-40/

I Miss You More Than I Did Yesterday: https://thesundae.net/2019/05/20/i-miss-you-more-than-i-did-yesterday/

Episode 11, It's a Wonderful Life: https://thesundae.net/2021/12/23/its-a-wonderful-life-the-sundae-presents-episode-11/

For the last regular episode of the year, Ciara showed Dean one of her first favourite films, Best Picture winner Kramer vs. Kramer. They talk about whether it's balanced, whether it's antifeminist and which of the characters Dean wanted to kill at various points.

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Teri Bach's review of Kramer vs. Kramer: https://socialism.com/fs-article/movie-review-kramer-vs-kramer-vs-women/

Bonus Episode 2, The Deer Hunter: https://thesundae.net/2022/09/26/the-deer-hunter-the-sundae-presents-bonus-episode-2/

Dean follows through on his longstanding threat to make Ciara watch a Harmony Korine film, the 2012 black comedy (?) crime drama (?) Spring Breakers. They talk about its grotesque visual excess, James Franco's repulsive performance and whether the whole film is just a big joke.

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Avicii and EDM’s Promise of Post-Recessional Excess by Emily Yoshida: https://www.vulture.com/2018/04/avicii-and-edms-promise-of-post-recessional-excess.html

Roger Ebert's review of Joe Versus the Volcano: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/joe-versus-the-volcano-1990

Make It, Don't Fake It: https://thesundae.net/2020/11/17/make-it-dont-fake-it/

It's our second annual Halloween Spooktacular, so Ciara showed Dean the most appropriate movie possible, John Carpenter's 1978 slasher masterpiece Halloween. They talk about its genre-defining visual style, its iconic kills and whether Dr. Loomis is the worst psychiatrist in the history of cinema.

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Pauline Kael's review of Halloween: https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/movies/halloween-1979-review-by-pauline-kael/

Check out Ciara on Lucio Fulci in Fangoria: https://www.fangoria.com/original/lucio-fulci-so-much-more-than-the-godfather-of-gore-dont-torture-a-duckling-at-50/

(and the other time she was in Fangoria: https://www.fangoria.com/original/christopher-landon-reinventing-slasher/)

Episode 20, White Dog: https://thesundae.net/2022/10/17/white-dog-the-sundae-presents-episode-20/

Ciara goes "full Dean" by showing him the controversial 80s racism drama White Dog. They talk about its bleak ending, Birth of a Nation, and why the studio sold it up the river.

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Original trailer on Betamax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9KXt2TE2k

Armond White's Criterion essay on White Dog: https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/848-white-dog-fuller-vs-racism

We have a film emergency! Dean watched The Deer Hunter, so he and Ciara recorded a bonus episode. They talk about its portrayal of Russian-American identity, the controversial Russian roulette sequence, and how much its director loved lying.

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I Feel Far Away: Class (and) War in The Deer Hunter: https://thesundae.net/2019/04/15/i-feel-far-away-class-and-war-in-the-deer-hunter/

Dog Day Afternoon: The Sundae Presents Episode 7: https://thesundae.net/2021/09/26/dog-day-afternoon-the-sundae-presents-episode-7/

The 250, Episode 279. The Conversation: https://soundcloud.com/the250/theconversation-podcast-fin

Jonathan Rosenbaum’s review of The Deer Hunter: https://jonathanrosenbaum.net/2018/06/the-deer-hunter-flabby-beyond-belief/

Dean shows Ciara his favourite film from 1994, Neil Jordan’s gay vampire fantasia Interview with the Vampire. They talk about how gay it is, the complexities of vampires as metaphors and Tom Cruise’s electric performance as Lestat.

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Gender Troubles in The Crying Game: https://thesundae.net/2020/01/06/gender-troubles-the-crying-game/

Michael Collins Remains an Irish Cornerstone 25 Years Later: https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/michael-collins-liam-neeson-anniversary/

My First Vulnerability is the Last Thing You’ll See: https://thesundae.net/2021/06/13/my-first-vulnerability-is-the-last-thing-youll-see/

Our previous gay romantic horror episode: https://thesundae.net/2022/04/03/frankenstein-bride-of-frankenstein-the-sundae-presents-episode-14/

Ciara shows Dean the polarising first Star Trek film, Star Trek: The Motion Picture. They talk about why it's nicknamed The Slow-Motion Picture, whether Kirk and Spock are boyfriends, and the beauty of its abstract special effects.

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Star Trek: The Motion Picture – re:View by RedLetterMedia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUxZmen6G2U/

Gutless, Spineless, Gormless, Directionless, Neurotic, Underachieving, Cowardly Pile of Smeg: The Arnold J. Rimmer Story: https://thesundae.net/2019/06/25/gutless-spineless-gormless-directionless-neurotic-underachieving-cowardly-pile-of-smeg-the-arnold-j-rimmer-story/ 

A minosode. With the body of a man from Crete and the head of an episode.

The Sundae Presents returns to our primordial ooze to talk about great performances that are only one scene long. First up: Dinah Manoff as Karen in one scene in Ordinary People (1980).

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Dean shows Ciara his actual favourite film of all time, Terry Gilliam's 1985 dystopian sci-fi comedy Brazil. They talk about its infamously tumultuous production, its nonideological dictatorship and its retrofuturist aesthetic.

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The Battle of Brazil – A Video History: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUErLzVeXc

Pauline Kael’s review of Brazil: https://www.newyorker.com/goings-on-about-town/movies/brazil

Episode 4, Speed Racer: https://thesundae.net/2021/07/04/speed-racer-the-sundae-presents-episode-4/

Episode 10, Ikiru: https://thesundae.net/2021/12/19/ikiru-the-sundae-presents-episode-10/

Ciara finally shows Dean one of the most absurd films he's never seen: Gene Kelly and Stanley Donen's musical classic Singin' in the Rain. They talk about the history of the movie musical, how funny Donald O'Connor is and whether or not the main characters are in a throuple.

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The Mere Possibility of the Movie Musical: https://thesundae.net/2020/11/24/the-mere-possibility-of-the-movie-musical/

Roger Ebert on Singin' in the Rain: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-singin-in-the-rain-1952

All We're Looking for Is Love from Someone Else: https://thesundae.net/2017/09/24/all-were-looking-for-is-love-from-someone-else/

In their first ever bonus episode, Ciara and Dean continue discussing the Bourne Trilogy because, frankly, there's a lot to say about the Bourne Trilogy. Whenever the Bourne Trilogy isn't on screen, people should be asking: where's the Bourne Trilogy? They talk about mass surveillance, MKUltra and how much Paul Greengrass loves handheld cameras.

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Ciara on how films portray the Bush administration in Current Affairs: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/11/hollywood-the-bush-years-and-americas-memory-hole

Episode 15, The Bourne Identity: https://thesundae.net/2022/05/01/the-bourne-identity-the-sundae-presents-episode-15/

Ciara and Dean talking about another conspiracy thriller on another podcast: https://soundcloud.com/the250/theconversation-podcast-fin?utm_source=clipboard&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=widget&utm_content=https%253A%252F%252Fsoundcloud.com%252Fthe250%252Ftheconversation-podcast-fin

In a rare role-reversal, Dean shows Ciara a popular mainstream film she has bizarrely never seen: The Bourne Identity, starring Matt Damon. They talk about its difficult production, how evil the CIA is, and The Long Kiss Goodnight.

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24 Reasons The Bourne Identity & The Long Kiss Goodnight Are The Same Movie by Couch T: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA_FQjt8oNI

Episode 5, Good Will Hunting: https://thesundae.net/2021/08/02/good-will-hunting-the-sundae-presents-episode-5/

Ciara and Dean talking about another conspiracy thriller on another podcast: https://soundcloud.com/the250/theconversation-podcast-fin?utm_source=clipboard&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=widget&utm_content=https%253A%252F%252Fsoundcloud.com%252Fthe250%252Ftheconversation-podcast-fin

Ciara hits Dean with another classic horror double bill as he watches James Whale's Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein. They talk about the censorship of the first film, the queer themes of the second and ask: who's the real monster anyway? (It's Dr. Frankenstein.)

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Ciara on Happy Death Day in Fangoria: https://www.fangoria.com/original/christopher-landon-reinventing-slasher/ 

My First Vulnerability is the Last Thing You'll See: https://thesundae.net/2021/06/13/my-first-vulnerability-is-the-last-thing-youll-see/

You Kill That Man, You Die Next: https://thesundae.net/2019/08/19/you-kill-that-man-you-die-next/

It's a return to normalcy as Dean once again makes Ciara watch some film you've never heard of that he watched on a whim: Marco Bellocchio's 1965 film debut Fists in the Pocket. They talk about its complex portrayal of disability, ambiguously amoral characters and mad incest vibes.

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Notes on Hamlet (2000): https://thesundae.net/2018/05/13/notes-on-hamlet-2000/

God Sent Me To Piss The World Off, Part 1: https://thesundae.net/2020/04/12/god-sent-me-to-piss-the-world-off-part-1/

I Was Cured, All Right: https://thesundae.net/2020/07/06/i-was-cured-all-right/

Do I Look Like the Kind of Clown Who Could Start a Movement?: https://thesundae.net/2020/10/05/do-i-look-like-the-kind-of-clown-that-could-start-a-movement/

Ciara and Dean each brought a film this episode, but also... the same film? For our first (proper) double episode, Ciara made Dean watch the Whedon Cut of Justice League, and Dean made Ciara watch the Snyder Cut. They talk about corporate heartlessness, the inherent silliness of superheroes and Batman getting old. They also laugh at the bad guy a lot.

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Five Years in Hell: a Reflection on the Superhero TV Boom: https://thesundae.net/2017/06/25/five-years-in-hell-a-reflection-on-the-superhero-tv-boom/

Crisis on Infinite Shows: https://thesundae.net/2020/06/08/crisis-on-infinite-shows/

Ghostbusters (2016): a Hillary Clinton Story: https://thesundae.net/2017/05/07/ghostbusters-2016-a-hillary-clinton-story/

Martin Scorsese on Marvel movies: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html

For our first Christmas Spectacular, Ciara helps Dean rid himself of one of his most grievous shames: never having seen It's a Wonderful Life. They talk about its view of capitalism, the brilliance of its final act and whether there's even such a thing as corny.

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Bosley Crowther's review of It's a Wonderful Life: https://www.nytimes.com/1946/12/23/archives/the-screen-in-review-at-three-theatres-its-a-wonderful-life-with.html

Too Pop for the Punk Kids: https://thesundae.net/2021/11/28/too-pop-for-the-punk-kids/

The last time we did a film where someone pretends to commit suicide by jumping off a bridge into a river to trick Jimmy Stewart into jumping in after them: https://anchor.fm/the-sundae/episodes/Vertigo-e11rmt6

In a shocking twist, Dean shows Ciara a film widely acknowledged as one of the greatest of all time: Akira Kurosawa's Ikiru. They talk about its humour and humanism, Kurosawa's influences and how the main character's son is a complete piece of shit.

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“Akira Kurosawa - Composing Movement” by Every Frame a Painting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaQC-S8de8

Bosley Crowther’s review of Ikiru: https://www.nytimes.com/1960/01/30/archives/screen-drama-imported-from-japanikiru-has-premiere-at-the-little.html

Ciara’s article on Michael Collins in Paste: https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/michael-collins-liam-neeson-anniversary/

The Rashomon Effect Effect: https://thesundae.net/2018/05/20/the-rashomon-effect-effect/

Dean shows Ciara a film released after they met instead of before they were born: the 2014 Kristen Wiig vehicle Welcome to Me. They talk about the positive thinking movement, Wiig’s career arc and why Oprah sucks.

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Barbara Ehrenreich on positive thinking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvwyhSeLZT8

Oprah’s long history with junk science: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/1/9/16868216/oprah-winfrey-pseudoscience

Matthew McConaughey’s Oscar speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD2cVhC-63I

Ben Affleck’s The Town: https://twitter.com/danclyne/status/941548911277289473

For the season three finale, it's assassin versus assassin as Ciara brings John Woo's The Killer and Dean brings David Fincher's The Killer. They talk about the homoeroticism of The Killer, the bleak emptiness of The Killer and, of course, the music of The Killer.

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Ciara on Jean-Pierre Melville: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2021/06/the-noirs-of-melville

Ciara on Fincher and The Social Network: https://thesundae.net/2021/03/03/the-social-network-and-me-a-love-story/

For our first Halloween Spooktacular, Ciara shows Dean a Sam Raimi double bill: The Evil Dead and Evil Dead II. They talk about the genius of Bruce Campbell, innovation born from ignorance, and all the different kinds of goo.

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"Why Would You Need To Guard A Dead Man Stuck In A Two-Foot Refrigerator?" by Ciara in Bright Wall/Dark Room: https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2018/08/15/weekend-at-bernies-2/

You Should Watch Vic Reeves Big Night Out: https://thesundae.net/2019/09/01/you-should-watch-vic-reeves-big-night-out/

Ciara makes Dean watch one of her actual favourite films, Dog Day Afternoon. They talk about sexuality and gender, optimism and the Attica prison massacre.

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"The Boys in the Bank" by P. F. Kluge and Thomas Moore: https://books.google.ie/books?id=5VYEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA66

Radical Empathy and the Prison-Industrial Complex: https://thesundae.net/2018/11/05/radical-empathy-and-the-prison-industrial-complex/

Ciara makes Dean watch Good Will Hunting for the first time. They talk about class, toilet humour, and whether Ben Affleck is a good actor. 

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Cancelled Too Soon: Mindhunter: https://thesundae.net/2021/07/26/cancelled-too-soon-mindhunter/

My First Vulnerability is the Last Thing You’ll See: https://thesundae.net/2021/06/13/my-first-vulnerability-is-the-last-thing-youll-see/

Ben Affleck and Matt Damon Win Original Screenplay (feat. Jack Lemmon wildin' out): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RIS5GJqAg

Ben Affleck getting unmatched on a dating app: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFdNADcemJk

Dean shows Ciara his favourite film released in his lifetime: the Wachowski Sisters’ 2008 children’s action blockbuster Speed Racer. They talk about digital effects, sensory overload and whether blockbusters can be anti-capitalist.

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“In Defense of Disco” by Richard Dyer: http://history-is-made-at-night.blogspot.com/2008/05/in-defence-of-disco-richard-dyer.html

In Speed Racer’s fossil-fuel-free future, speed is freedom: https://www.polygon.com/movies/22446139/speed-racer-movie-cars-fossil-fuel-commentary

An entire episode of Lazy Town: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHyzxdmQhDc

Chapo Trap House's Avatar episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2SrCbSFVeVdGoFiaDRkW5k?si=8DCtQONCTIqG-jZyjjfH9Q&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1

Speed Racer Is Not an Art Film: https://thesundae.net/2017/07/31/speed-racer-is-not-an-art-film/