On the pod this week, SBJ’s Austin Karp, Mollie Cahillane and Tom Friend do a deep dive into what’s next in the Diamond Sports saga. Karp and Cahillane also share who the winners are in the latest ESPN executive shakeup. Later in the show, two of football’s leading voices get us set for the upcoming seasons as NFL Network’s Scott Hanson and Fox Sports’ Brady Quinn stop by.

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On this week’s pod, SBJ’s Austin Karp and Mollie Cahillane take a deep dive into what’s next for Venu Sports after a setback in court. Later in the show, NBC Sports’ Nicole Auerbach shares what she would change if she were college football czar. Clinton Yates, a D.C. native and host of the “ESPN Daily” podcast, also joins the show and dishes on the state of professional sports in the nation’s capital. Sign up for SBJ 360, our free, daily newsletter. SBJ 360 delivers a concise, high-level overview of the most important stories shaping the sports industry. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On this week’s pod, SBJ’s Austin Karp and basketball writer Tom Friend put a bow on NBA Finals viewership and look ahead at what’s next for league’s media rights deals. Later in the show, Karp catches up with some sports media newsmakers. The first interview is with Fox Sports’ Alexi Lalas. The U.S. Soccer Hall of Famer talks about his role as lead studio analyst for the UEFA Euros and Copa America, as well as how MLS is at an inflection point for media coverage . Next, Joe Franzetta of Roku drops in to talk about his platform’s new MLB deal, efforts around the Olympics and Formula E and how the company is navigating the live sports rights landscape.

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand interview Amazon Sports VP of Global Sports Video, Marie Donoghue. Donoghue is the one who first hatched Amazon's plan to go after the rights for Thursday Night Football and she led how the streamer has approached its look in front and behind the cameras. In the pod, Donoghue reveals some news on an addition to TNF's pregame, talks about interest in the NBA, Big 12 and Pac 12. She also tells of what it was like to row in the Harlem River as part of Columbia's crew team in college. 

Plus, Marchand and Ourand have their usual segments of "Who's Up" and "Who's down," delve deep into Major League Baseball and Sinclair, while also providing a prognosis of the current state of the Pac 12 deal. And one sportscaster receives the coveted "Call of the Week" award. 

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand celebrate one year of the sports media podcast. They are joined by ESPN MLB insider Jeff Passan, who details why he always wears a suit to the ballpark, navigating ESPN rivalries, the angst of being glued to his phone and his Elmo impersonation, among other topics. Marchand and Ourand have all the usual elements, picking “Who’s up” and “Who’s down,” plus they go deep on subjects, including what does the Sling-Disney deal foretell, what is the NBA up to with its reimagined app and Rachel Nichols’ comeback. They end with “Call of the Week,” which has a Manning slant. 

Mentioned this week: Troy Aikman, Joe Buck, Chris Russo, Doug Perlman, Abe Madkour, Chris Shaw, Scott Van Pelt, Shaquille O’Neal, Gary Bettman, Steve Phelps, Roger Goodell, Aaron Judge, Derek Volner, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Charlie Ergen, Chris Ripley, LeBron James, Fred Hickman, Nick Charles, George Michael, Rachel Nichols, Mark Hale, Adam Silver, Maria Taylor, John Blake, Rich Passan, Adrian Wojnarowski, Adam Shefter, Pete Thamel, John Branch, Joe Posnanski, Jason Whitlock, Wright Thompson, Liz Merrill, Adam Teicher, Blair Kirkhoff, Bob Dutton, Sam Mellinger, Kevin Kaduk, Candace Buckner, Mike Fannin, Dan Wetzel, Charles Robinson, Tim Brown, Kevin Iole, Greg Wyshynski, Buster Olney, Rob Manfred, Rachel Ullrich, Ken Rosenthal, Jon Heyman, Joel Sherman, Adley Rutschman, Elmo, Sean Connery, Dan LeBatard, Manny Machado, George King, Tom Verducci, Bobby Wagner, Acie Wyatt, Chris Mason, Pedro Martinez

 

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Aaron Judge and Albert Pujols went for historic home runs exclusively on AppleTV+. The NFL put some of its most popular teams exclusive on Amazon. The NFL wants to sell its Sunday Ticket service exclusively to a streamer. Podcast hosts Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss what sports leagues’ moves to streaming services mean for the business. Other topics: Pac-12 and Big 12 media rights, the new NBA App, J.J. Redick’s media future and Peyton and Eli Manning’s role in the new NFL Pro Bowl weekend.

Troy Aikman, Joe Buck, Chris Russo, Jeff Passan, Pedro Martinez, Adam Silver, George Kliavkoff, Brett Yormark, Jay Marine, Jeff Bezos, Marie Donoghue, Jared Stacy, Barry Bonds, Michael Kay, Alex Rodriguez, Aaron Judge, Roger Maris, David Waldstein, Joel Sherman, Roger Clemens, Burke Magnus, Jimmy Pitaro, Adley Rutschman, Roger Goodell, Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Marv Albert, Chris Ripley, Albert Puljols, Letitia James, Bob Lawyer, Ted Lasso, The Morning Show, WeCrashed, Tripp Mickle, James Nestor, Eddy Cue, Brian Rolapp, John Canzano, Jon Wilner, Pat McAfee, JJ Redick, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Wayne Randazzo, Richard Jefferson, Ryan Ruocco, Dave Pasch, Stephen A. Smith, Howie Rose, Acie Wyatt, Chris Mason.

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Sports media’s push to streaming dominates the first part of this week’s podcast, as Andrew Marchand and John Ourand take a deep dive into how Amazon fared during its first exclusive NFL game. Marchand and Ourand take a look at Amazon’s performance from the NBA’s perspective since that league’s media rights deals are up after the 2024-25 season. They bring up both the good and the bad with Amazon’s stream of the Chargers-Chiefs game.

Other streaming topics include the potential for AppleTV+ to carry a historic MLB game as Aaron Judge chases Roger Maris’ Yankees homerun record and discuss how a direct-to-consumer ESPN may look. College rights negotiations continue to be a big issue, as the Big 12 and Pac-12 have started looking into re-doing their deals. And they tell you why Dwyane Wade is leaving TNT’s NBA telecasts this season. As always, the show has its Who’s Up/Who’s Down and Call of the Week features.

Mentions: Aaron Judge, Roger Maris, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Jimmy Pitaro, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Scott Van Pelt, Burke Magnus, Bob Chapek, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Ian Eagle, Eddy Cue, Dean Spanos, Justin Herbert, Jay Marine, Marie Donoghue, Jared Stacy, Fred Gaudelli, Kaylee Hartung, Richard Sherman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Dude Perfect, Joe Flint, Jeff Bezos, Bart Simpson, Al Bundy, Roger Goodell, Chris Russo, Pat McAfee, Stephen Nelson, Hunter Pence, Katie Nolan, Derek Jeter, Babe Ruth, John Canzano, Jon Wilner, George Kliavkoff, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Harlan, Tua Tagovailoa, Tyreek Hill, Gus Johnson, Joel Klatt, Jason McCourty, Michael Nathanson, Acie Wyatt, Chris Mason

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Days before they will call the first regular season NFL game on Amazon Prime, Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreit joined the pod this week to discuss their plan for calling games on the streaming service and how they’ve approached their partnership. The two also discuss the free agent frenzy that hit NFL announcers in the off season; Michaels talks about how he will decide when to hang up his announcer’s microphone; and Herbstreit offers his two cents on Big Ten expansion. Other topics: Michaels’ disdain for vegetables and Herbstreit’s travel schedule to Boone, N.C. 

 

Marchand and Ourand also discuss ESPN’s future, what to expect from Amazon’s first game and a review of Week 1 on television. The two also make their weekly picks about Who’s Up, Who’s Down and Call of the Week. 

 

Mentioned this week: Ian Eagle, Chris Russo, Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Chris Finnegan, Pat McAfee, Brad Marchand, Jimmy Pitaro, Bob Chapek, Urban Meyer, Jac Collinsworth, Maria Taylor, Mike Tirico, Tim of Shelbyville, Tenn., Rick Mace, Jonathan Tannenwald, Brian Roberts, Charlie Ergen, Rob Thun, Brian Rolapp, Hans Schroeder, Michael Nathanson, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Robert Seidman, Marion Barry, Steve Levy, Louis Riddick, Dan Orlovsky, Darren Rovell, Joel McHale, Shannon Sharpe, Mystery Science Theater 3000, Chris LaPlaca, Jay Marine, Marie Donoghue, Fred Gaudelli, Jared Stacy, Tripp Mickle, Jeff Bezos, Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Justin Reid, Eric Reid, Cris Collinsworth, Marty Brennaman, Wayne Lucas, Mario Cristobal, Jimbo Fisher, Mack Brown, Michael Smith, Bob Kraft, Michele Tafoya, Jay Michaels, Lila Roginsky, Dr. Spock, Michael Kay, Ian Eagle, Jo Ann Ross, Acie Wyatt, Chris Mason  

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Fox Sports’ top NFL announcing team of Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen join the pod this week to discuss the upcoming season when they will call the Super Bowl for the first time. Andrew Marchand and John Ourand ask about the long off-season process to become Fox’s top NFL broadcasting team. Burkhardt and Olsen also address Tom Brady, who is scheduled to replace Olsen when he stops playing football. Other topics include their New Jersey roots, where Burkhardt called Olsen’s high-school games; Burkhardt’s “first pitch” at Citi Field; and Burkhardt’s role on WFAN 20 years ago.

 

Marchand and Ourand also discuss the NFL’s upcoming season, from Amazon’s debut and the Manningcast to NBC’s Sunday Night Football’s expected performance. The two opine on what the expansion of the College Football Playoff means to ESPN, Fox and Amazon.

Mentioned on the pod: Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Jay Marine, Marie Donoghue, Jeff Bezos, Brett Yormark, Burke Magnus, Ray Davis, Sarah Krouse, Chris Fowler, Mike Tirico, Cris Collinsworth, Tony Romo, Jim Nantz, Peyton Manning, Fred Gaudelli, Bruce Springsteen, Jon Bon Jovi, Chris Olsen, Jr., Chris Olsen, Sr., Art Stapleton, Mike Trevino, Tom Brady, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi, Rob Boras, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Charles Davis, Kenny Albert, Gregg Picker, Gary Cohen, Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Bill Webb, Chris Russo, Richard Cross, Leger Douzable, Andrew Fegyveresi, Acie Wyatt, Chris Mason.

 

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ESPN’s new Monday Night Football announcers Joe Buck and Troy Aikman join the pod to talk about how and why they moved from Fox to ESPN during the offseason. Aikman details his talks with Amazon and ESPN and discusses how much Tony Romo’s CBS salary played into his decision to leave. Buck talks about his reasons for leaving Fox and why he’s decided to give up the baseball booth. A UCLA alum, Aikman also addresses his school’s move from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten.

 

Marchand and Ourand also discuss Amazon’s exclusive NFL preseason game, the stunning strength of NFL TV ratings, the future of Sinclair’s RSNs, Apple’s Friday night MLB telecasts, ESPN’s ACC contract and Pat McAfee’s exit from SiriusXM.

 

Mentioned in the podcast this week: Tony Romo, Chris Russo, Pete Bevacqua, Chris Ripley, Katie Nolan, Hannah Keyser, Melanie Newman, Chris Young, Hunter Pence, Stephen Nelson, Fred Gaudelli, Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Charissa Thompson, Richard Sherman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jared Stacy, Marie Donoghue, Bob Kraft, Rupert Murdoch, Kevin Burkhardt, Alana Russo, Michael Nathanson, Burke Magnus, Jeb Bush, Tim Green, Thom Brennaman, Kenny Albert, Anthony Muñoz, Phil Dean, David Hill, Jimmy Pitaro, Eric Shanks, Michelle Beisner-Buck, Joe Davis, Jack Buck, Vin Scully, Richie Zyontz, Tony Kornheiser, Chris Kerber, Beverly Sills, Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Tom Brady, Rick Sutcliffe, Brent Musburger, Wally Matthews, Derek Jeter, Robert Heymann, Pat McAfee, Peyton Manning, LeBron James, Charles Barkley, Stephen A. Smith, Jason Benetti, Casey Thompson, Isaiah Garcia-Castaneda, Tim Brando, Gus Johnson, Greg Olsen

 

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand spend much of the pod peppering ESPN’s Burke Magnus, this week’s Big Get, with questions about the college sports landscape. Magnus discussed what happened during Big Ten media rights negotiations and how ESPN views upcoming Pac-12 and Big 12 negotiations. Magnus also discusses how ESPN plans to schedule SEC and ACC games next year and talks about the future of SEC Network and ACC Network.

 

Pod topics include Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy’s latest venture, Amazon’s failure to get Big Ten or UEFA rights and CNN’s decision to move away from media reporting. Marchand and Ourand also talk about whether Disney plans to spin off ESPN, Ted Leonsis’ purchase of NBC Sports Washington, broadcasters’ support of women’s sports, Amazon’s “Thursday Night Football” debut and the Little League Classic.

Mentioned on this week’s pod: Chris Russo, Eric Shanks, Mark Silverman, Larry Jones, Andrew Fegyveresi, Brad Zager, Tom Brady, The Masked Singer, Urban Meyer, Mike McCarley, Rory McIlroy, Tiger Woods, Dick Ebersol, John Collins, Jeff Bezos, Brian Stelter, Chris Licht, John Malone, Oliver Darcy, Sean McManus, Ted Lasso, Daniel Loeb, Bob Chapek, Michael Nathanson, Bob Iger, Ted Leonsis, Zach Leonsis, Randy Levine, Kirk Herbstreit, Al Michaels, Kaylee Hartung, Fred Gaudelli, Mark Gross, Cedric Mullins, Austin Hays, Adley Rutschman, Karl Ravech, Mo’ne Davis, Meghan Ourand, Bill Simmons, David Lennon, Dave Anderson, Steve Anderson, George Bodenheimer, Dick Vitale, Burke Magnus IV, Kevin Warren, Michael Smith, John Swofford, John Wildhack, Mike Aresco, Jack Swarbrick, Jimmy Pitaro, Paul Rabil, Mike Rabil, Keyshawn Johnson, Aaron Judge, Mike Francesa

 

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The year is 2025. Who will be the biggest players – and biggest losers – in sports media? One of the country’s top analysts, MoffettNathanson’s Michael Nathanson, joins Andrew Marchand and John Ourand to talk about the changes they expect to see in the business over the next three years.

Topics include the coming battle for NBA rights and why they are so important to Warner Bros. Discovery; the case against streaming; and what will happen to sports teams' local media rights. Nathanson talks about the strength of the cable bundle and what networks could do to hurt it. And the trio gives their analysis on the differing sports strategies of Amazon versus Apple, who could buy Fox and when will ESPN offer its main channel direct-to-consumer.

Mentioned on this week’s podcast: Adam Silver, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, LeBron James, Pat McAfee, Stephen A. Smith, Charles Barkley, Eric Shanks, Aaron Judge, John Sterling, Suzyn Waldman, Chris Ripley, Walter White, John Skipper, David Zaslav, Tripp Mickle, Chris Mason, David Levy, Acie Wyatt

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Hours before taping this pod, John Ourand broke the news that ESPN would not be carrying Big Ten football in 2023; Fox, CBS and NBC would share those rights. Andrew Marchand broke the news that CBS and NBC each would pay $350 million per year for their packages. On this pod, the two discussed everything you need to know about the deals, including what it means for the networks, what it means for Big Tech and what it means for college conferences.

 

NFL Network’s “Good Morning Football” host Jason McCourty joins as The Big Get and talks about how he got his broadcasting break at the NFL Broadcasting Bootcamp and where he wants to take his on-air career. McCourty, who won a Super Bowl with the Patriots, also gives his best Tom Brady and Bill Belichick stories.

Mentioned this week: Brett Yormark, Jeff Bezos, Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kelly Sheffield, Larry Jones, Mark Silverman, George Kliavkoff, Michael Nathanson, John Skipper, Chris Mason, Pat McAfee, Peyton Manning, Daryl Johnston, Joe Davis, Tom Brady, Greg Olsen, Mark Sanchez, Ray Rice, Brian Leonard, Greg Schiano, Devin McCourty, Melissa McCourty, Michelle Powell, Drew Brees, LeBron James, Stephon Gilmore, J.C Jackson, Gisele Bündchen, Bill Belichick, Brian Belichick, Steve Belichick, John Glennon, Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, Rich Rodriguez, Pat White, Steve Slaton, Noel Devine, Darius Reynaud, Nick Faldo, Jim Nantz, Trevor Immelman, Acie Wyatt

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On this week’s pod, Ice Cube joins us to talk about the BIG3 and why he is the all-time president of Raider Nation. Later in the show, Mike and Paul Rabil fill us in on how the growth strategy for the Premier Lacrosse League has led to big gains as the season kicks into high gear.

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss why TNT's Charles Barkley said no to LIV. They examine the issues surrounding Comcast and Peacock. They go deeper into how the Champions League rights deal looks as if it may come down to the incumbent CBS/Paramount+ vs. Amazon. They also talk about how if they were TV and streaming programmers they would be doubling down on women's sports because the viewers are there. 

Those earning mentions include Chris Russo, Mike Francesa, Bill Morrow, Brian Roberts, Greg Norman, John Sterling and Aaron Judge.

Editor's note: This week's podcast was recorded before the passing of Vin Scully.

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Charles Barkley’s dalliance with the LIV Golf tour and the NFL’s launch of its NFL+ streaming service are two of the big topics discussed by Andrew Marchand and John Ourand this week. The two also talk about the NFL’s Sunday Ticket negotiations, the NFL announcers that bring the most intrigue and MLB’s mid-season report card.

 Legendary sports media producer and executive David Hill is this week’s Big Get. He talks about LIV Golf’s productions and why Formula 1 has become popular in the U.S. Hill also discusses his 22 year career at Fox Sports where he earned a reputation as one of the business’ most innovative producers, overseeing production of Super Bowls, World Series, Stanley Cup Finals and BCS Championships.

 Mentioned on this week’s pod: Charles Barkley, Donald Trump, Rod Studd, Mark Silverman, Larry Jones, Jason Benetti, Karl Ravech, Boog Sciambi, Joe Davis, Joe Buck, Adam Amin, Vince McMahon, Stephanie McMahon, Triple H, Nick Khan, Bruce Springsteen, Dan Patrick, Tony Romo, Troy Aikman, Mark Cuban, Michael Wilbon, Bryant Gumbel, Greg Gumbel, Ahmad Rashad, Joe Biden, Jim Dolan, Greg Norman, Roger Goodell, Brian Rolapp, Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kevin Burkharst, Greg Olsen, Mike Tirico, Cris Collinsworth, Tom Brady, Bob Costas, Jim Kaat, Will Staeger, James Watson, David Feherty, John Madden, Arlo White, Chase Carey, Ross Brawn, Bernie Ecclestone, James Gay-Reese, Stefano Domenicali, Tim McCarver, Murray Walker, Richie Benaud, Sean McDonough, Will McDonough, Jimmy Johnson, Howie Long, Terry Bradshaw, Rudy Martzke, Stan Honey, Paul Tagliabue, Eric Shanks, Barry Hearn, Annie Hill, Sydney McLaughlin, Leigh Diffey, Lindsey Adler, Aroldis Chapman, Anthony Santander

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss how Apple or Amazon can create a new distribution model for the NFL with the Sunday Ticket deal, which could be global. The two discuss what is next for the Big Ten and its TV rights, ESPN+'s monthly pay hike and what it means, David Feherthy's move to LIV Golf, the issues with the Derek Jeter doc and Tom Brady. And they end the show with the: "How many followers on Twitter does this person have?" game.

Others mentioned include Charles Barkley, Gary McCord, Brian Rolaap, Chris Berman, Chris Burke, Kyle Peterson, Karl Ravech, Kiley McDaniel, Mark Evans. Casey Close, Doug Gottleib.

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Sports media’s two biggest rights deals that are available at the moment – one for the Big Ten and the other for the UEFA Champions League – are the first two topics on this week’s podcast. Andrew Marchand and John Ourand provide updates on what viewers can expect once these deals get signed.

 

The two also look at Matthew Berry’s decision to leave ESPN after a 15-year run. Marchand and Ourand talk about where he’s headed and why it makes sense. They also look at who will replace Berry as the face of ESPN’s fantasy sports business. Other topics include a new on-air role at ESPN for Robert Griffin III and the latest on the NFL’s Sunday Ticket negotiations.

 

Mentioned this week: Danny Sillman, Robert Griffin III, Randy Moss, David Jacoby, Ja Morant, Eric Rydholm, Ben Strauss, Adam Schefter, Armando Benitez, Chris Mason, Acie Wyatt, Abe Madkour, Mark Sanchez, Matthew Berry, Field Yates, Stephania Bell, Mike Clay, Pete Sampras, Roger Goodell, Brian Rolapp, Nick Kyrgios, Novak Djokovic, Chris Fowler, John McEnroe, Patrick McEnroe, Renaud Lichtenstein, Bud Collins, Dick Enberg.

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand give their insights on what is happening behind the scenes as the billions of dollars in TV money has changed the landscape of college football with USC and UCLA moving to the Big Ten. They explain how the Big Ten and SEC expansions are big successes for leaders of Fox Sports (Eric Shanks) and ESPN (Jimmy Pitaro), while also delving into who else may be involved, including Amazon and Apple. 

In the rest of the pod, Marchand and Ourand wonder why MLB didn't have other Yankees and others playing on July 4, have an update on where the MLS negotiations stand with ESPN and Fox, as well as the end of NBC's Olympic Channel. They also revisit some of last week's guest host, David Levy's opinions. Plus, a tribute to Hank Goldberg.

Mentioned on this week’s pod: Brian Windhorst, David Levy, Jack Swarbrick, Eric Shanks, Jimmy Pitaro, Bryce Harper, Mookie Betts, Jacob deGrom. Max Scherzer, Chris Sale, Manny Machado, Adley Rutschman, Austin Hays, Aaron Judge, Rob Manfred, Nick Saban, Tripp Mickle, Tim Cook, John Skipper, Eddy Cue, David Zaslav, Don Garber, Adam Gold, Hank Goldberg, Jeremy Schaap, Hy Goldberg, Edwin Pope, Dan Le Batard.

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Former Turner Broadcasting boss David Levy fills in as a guest host for Andrew Marchand, who is on vacation this week. Levy and John Ourand go in-depth on a variety of topics, including Formula 1’s new deal with ESPN that’s worth $75-90 million per year; what to expect when the NBA’s media rights are available in three years; and a review – and preview – of LIV Golf’s launch. The two also discuss MLS’s Apple deal, Apple’s sports strategy vs Amazon’s, ESPN’s direct-to-consumer plans and where to find the best sports media investments these days.

Levy is chairman of Genius Sports, senior advisor of the Raine Group and founder and CEO of the sports investing and consultancy company Back Nine Ventures.

Those mentioned on this pod include: Chris Mason, Amanda Levy, Brett Levy, Niki Levy, Eric Shanks, Adam Silver, Jay Marine, Don Garber, Jay Monahan, David Hill, Rory McIroy, Justin Thomas, LeBron James, Dustin Johnson, Phil Mickelson, Sergio Garcia, Jake Paul, Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Adley Rutschman, Kevin Brown, Jim Palmer, Gary Thorne

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand go deep about the future of sports media in light of the Apple-MLS deal, as both have extensively researched and reported on the subject. At minimum, it will have an impact on what happens with the NBA in 2025 and could be a landmark move that one day down the road has serious implications for all the major sports leagues. Plus, Ryan Fitzpatrick joins the pod fresh off the announcement that he has officially joined Amazon as a studio analyst for Thursday NIght Football this fall. Fitzpatrick goes in depth into his career, why Amazon is next and how he and his wife manage their seven children. 

Those mentioned in the pod include: Adam Silver, Mike Bass, Chris Ripley, Jerry Reinsdorf, Lionel Messi, Wayne Rooney, Mark Apter, Seinfeld, Chris Mason, Gary Bettman, Aaron Judge, Ryan Glasspiegel, Richard Sherman, Tony Gonzalez, Charissa Thompson, Jimmy Pitaro, Steve Bornstein, Timmy Chang, Nathaniel Hackett, Liza Barber, Tony Romo, Jim Nantz, Terry McLaurin, Carson Wentz, Drew Brees, Mark Sanchez, Daryl Johnston, Jon Vilma, Joel Klatt, Brock Huard, Bob Costas, Rudy Martkze, Marv Albert, Jerry Johnson, Sean McDonough, Joe Buck, Jack Buck, Mike Francesa, Chris Russo, Wally Pipp, Mike Breen, Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson, Acie Wyatt

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News of Apple’s all-encompassing Major League Soccer deal broke just before Andrew Marchand and John Ourand taped this week’s podcast. The two go in-depth on deal terms and what Apple’s involvement means for the rest of the business. Marchand and Ourand also analyze what Luis Silberwasser’s surprise appointment as chairman and CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery Sports means for the sports media business and what changes to expect at Turner Sports.

 

Chris Solomon, host of the golf podcast No Laying Up, joins this week as The Big Get. Speaking from the US Open, Solomon talked about the future of LIV Golf and the PGA Tour and what to expect from both. As always, the two pick who’s up (Peyton Manning and Don Garber) and who’s down (Bob Chapek and Jay Monahan), as well as the Call of the Week from Mike Breen.

Mentions this week: Rory McIroy, Greg Norman, Don Garber, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Pat McAfee, Dan Le Batard, Tom Brady, Bob Chapek, Jay Monahan, Jim Nantz, Michael Jordan, Taylor Twellman, Chris LaPlaca, David Zaslav, Chris Mason, Lenny Daniels, Jimmy Pitaro, Jeff Zucker, David Levy, Karen Brodkin, Hillary Mandel, Sean McDonough, Al Michaels, Joe Buck, Jack Buck, Dick Enberg, Curt Gowdy, Dick Stockton, Charissa Thompson, Kay Adams, Nate Burleson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Richard Sherman, Tony Gonzalez, Marshawn Lynch, Kirk Herbstreit, Patrick Reed, Dustin Johnson, Charles Schwartzel, Phil Mickelson, Mark Cuban, Elon Musk, Talor Gooch, Tiger Woods, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas, Rickie Fowler, Xander Schauffele, Patrick Cantlay, Brooks Koepka, Bryson DeChambeau, Mohammad bin Salman, Jordan Poole, Mike Breen, Marv Albert, Ian Eagle, Eddy Cue.

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LIV Golf’s opening weekend is the top topic on this week’s pod with Andrew Marchand and John Ourand debating the tour’s media future. The two also dive into the latest with Big Ten rights, Amazon’s moves to build out an NFL studio team, Jason Garrett’s negotiations to call Notre Dame football and the future of the “Manningcast.” The two also review the first two games of the NBA Finals. Pelicans Guard C.J. McCollum joins the pod and discusses his media future, the state of NBA media today and why he majored in journalism at Lehigh University.

 

Mentions this week include: Tom Brady, Phil Mickelson, Arlo White, CJ McCollum, Troy Aikman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Amy Rosenfeld, Molly Solomon, Stephanie Druley, Mark Jones, Mike Breen, Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson, Mike Bass, Michael Jordan, Ian O’Connor, Dustin Johnson, Greg Norman, Chris Russo, John Sterling, Marshawn Lynch, Richard Sherman, Kay Adams, Ryan Glasspiegel, Pat McAfee, Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Magic Johnson, Brian Rolapp, Jason Garrett, Tony Romo, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Joe Buck, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Peg Ourand, Ryan Ruocco, Dave Pasch, Ian Eagle, Mike Tirico, Herb “Papa Clicker” Marchand, Stuart Scott, Tom McCarthy, Mike Schmidt, John Kruk, Jimmy Pitaro.

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Big Ten and MLS rights deals should have been done by Memorial Day. Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss where those deals stand and what viewers should expect. Other topics include NBA Finals preview, on-air roles for Magic Johnson and CJ McCollum, the next generation of NFL broadcasters, and future plans for NFL+.

 

Podcast mentions go to Anish Shroff, Jimmy Pitaro, Greg Olsen, Kevin Burkhardt, Tom Brady, Derek Jeter, Michael Jordan, Tom Verducci, Chris Mason, Arlo White, Peter Drury, Ted Lasso, David Zaslav, Grant Wahl, Tim Cook, Brian Rolapp, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jeff Van Gundy, Mike Breen, Magic Johnson, Dave Roberts, Michael Wilbon. Stephen A. Smith, Jalen Rose, CJ McCollum, Draymond Green, Herb “Papa Clicker” Marchand, Boomer Esiason, Tony Romo, Jason Witten, Drew Brees, Mike Tomlin, Sean McVay, Aaron Rodgers, Travis Kelce, Bill Belichick, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Devin McCourty, Jason McCourty, Kyle Van Noy, Troy Aikman, Cris Collinsworth, Charles Davis, Ian Eagle, Mark Schlereth, Bob Wischusen, Phil Mushnick, Ben Fischer, Dave Ryan, Zach Shaw.

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On this week’s pod, Joel Klatt joins the show to talk all things UFL and college football. The Fox Sports football analyst shares his thoughts on the future of spring football and the changing landscape on the college gridiron. Later in the show, SBJ’s Alex Silverman gets us set for the Stanley Cup Final between the Edmonton Oilers and Florida Panthers. Plus, Mollie Cahillane fills us in on who’s up and who’s down in sports media.

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss Fox CEO Lachlan Murdoch's comments on Tom Brady's 10-year, $375 million deal, Fox Sports' plans on its NFL booth, Warner Bros.-Discovery's future, the PGA, LIV Golf, Joe Buck, Amanda Renner, Magic Johnson, NBA Countdown, Inside the NBA, Dan Orlovsky, Lesley Visser, Jack Michaels and Chris Ripley. 

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand detail what could be next for Drew Brees on TV, more implications of Tom Brady’s $375 million deal with Fox and Joe Buck and Troy Aikman go to Bristol for the first time. Plus, the MLS’ upcoming TV deal that is expected to include Apple.

In the Bettman interview, the NHL commissioner addresses the league’s first year with ESPN and Turner, as well as answers gambling's impact on the league and how much longer he will stay in the job. 

Plus, “Who’s up? Who’s Down?” and the “Call of the Week.”

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Fox Sports surprising move to sign Tom Brady as its top NFL game analyst – even before he has finished his playing career – is the main topic on this week’s podcast. Andrew Marchand and John Ourand tackle this topic from all angles, including how this move affects other NFL analysts like Greg Olsen and Drew Brees. They also try to make sense of Brady’s huge $37.5 million per year contract.

 

Shoutouts this episode go to Brady, Kevin Burkhardt, Eric Shanks, Troy Aikman, Joe Buck, Eric Shanks, Brees, Cris Collinsworth, Tony Romo, Kirk Herbstreit, Olsen, Chris Russo, Peyton Manning, LeBron James, Joe Tessitore, Booger McFarland, Jason Witten, Steve Levy, Louis Riddick, Brian Griese, Andrew Fegyveresi, Acie Wyatt, Jason Benetti, Michael Nathanson, Greg Norman, Joe Montana, Jim Nantz, Mike Tirico, John Madden, Larry Collmus.

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The fast TV ratings start to the NBA playoffs and the NHL’s streaming-focused regular season are two of the topics Andrew Marchand and John Ourand tackle on this week’s episode. The two also dive into how the networks handled the NFL Draft, look into the timetable Fox Sports is on to secure a top NFL game analyst, preview Peacock’s first exclusive MLB game and provide an update on LIV Golf’s new tour. Shoutouts go to Adam Schefter, Chris Ripley, Erik Carlson and Howie Rose.

 

ESPN NBA analyst Kendrick Perkins joins the pod as The Big Get and talks about how he deals with players, including Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, who get upset with his outspoken analysis. He revealed which two teams offered him coaching jobs that he turned down. Perkins talks about growing up in Beaumont, Texas, his friendship with LeBron James, how he started his broadcast career and his career goals.

 

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand discuss the biggest stories in sports media, including Drew Brees' potential move from NBC to Fox, Kay Adams leaving Good Morning Football and the UFC possibly having some leverage over ESPN with Warner Bros./Discovery's David Zaslav on the scene. They go deep into Netflix's potential to move into sports, and debate Amazon and Apple's strategies.

Other bold-faced names mentioned include Kaylee Hartung, Ari Emanuel, Mark Shapiro, Greg Olsen, Kevin Burkhardt, Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Gary Cohen, Roger Goodell, Adam Silver, Kyrie Irving, Wallace Matthews, Ian Begley, Mike Mazzeo, Matt Ehalt and Ted Sarandos.

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Football carries the week, as Andrew Marchand and John Ourand go deep on NBC’s surprise decision to hire Melissa Stark as its “Sunday Night Football” sideline reporter; give an update on where Fox stands in terms of naming their top NFL talent; and reviews the USFL’s opening weekend. Marchand and Ourand discuss the Big Ten’s next media rights deal, compare Apple and Peacock’s strategies with MLB and check in with ESPN’s K-Rod booth.

 

Podcast shoutouts this week: Melissa Stark, Chris Ripley, Burke Magnus, David Berson, Jon Miller, Kathryn Tappen, Al Michaels, Mike Tirico, Drew Brees, Cris Collinsworth, Greg Olsen, Joe Buck, Kevin Burkhardt, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., Tony Romo, John Madden, Troy Aikman, Joe Davis, Mark Sanchez, Jon Vilma, Brad Zager, Eric Shanks, Ted Lasso, Katie Nolan, Alex Sherman, Tripp Mickle, Tim Cook, Steve Jobs, Fred Gaudelli, Kirk Herbstreit, Alex Rodriguez, Michael Kay, Chris Russo, John Sterling, Suzyn Waldman, Matt Vasgergian, Mike Breen, Chris Carrino, Ryan Ruocco, Richard Jefferson, Mike Greenberg, Stephen A. Smith, Scott Lauer, Scott Matthews

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand offer their analysis of Apple TV's "Friday Night Baseball" and what was wrong with the concept. They also examine what is next overall for Apple in sports. They go deep into what is next for Tuner Sports after the merger of Discovery and Warner Media. The duo critiques the Kay-Rod broadcast. Finally, they discuss the new USFL on Fox and what F1 might receive in new rights. Plus, The Masters and FS1.

There are shoutouts for Eric Shanks and Chris Carrino in the "Who's up" section. Among the other names mentioned are: Melanie Newman, Chris Young, Hannah Keyser, Bill Simmons, Mina Kimes, Stephen Nelson, Hunter Pence, Katie Young, Nick Faldo, Jim Nantz, Lenny Daniels, Michael Kay and Alex Rodriguez. 

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Marchand & Ourand go inside the negotiations for the new deals Adam Schefter and Adrian Wojnarowski signed with ESPN, looking at everything from ESPN’s strategy to the next steps for the gambling companies that had been angling to sign them. Marchand & Ourand dissect the work of CBS and Turner’s top men’s college basketball booth during the Final Four and Championship game. And they analyze the sports strategy being employed by Amazon and Apple.

 

Other topics include: Fox’s move to have Joe Davis call World Series games; why sponsors are supporting the MLB season so much; the on-going negotiations between Sinclair and Charter; and what to expect during the Masters this week. Podcasts mentions this week include: ESPN’s Jimmy Pitaro, Scott Van Pelt, Apple’s Jim Delorenzo, Jim Nantz, Grant Hill, Bill Raftery, Ian Eagle and others.

 

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand go into full details about Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreit agreeing to big money deals to call Thursday Night Football with Amazon. Marchand says the key to the whole thing will not even be in the booth. Ourand gives the full details on what ESPN traded to Fox Sports for the rights to Joe Buck, ESPN's new Monday Night Football play-by-player. Marchand and Ourand discuss Troy Aikman's recent comments to Sports Illustrated about his departure from Fox to ESPN. Marchand and Ourand pay tribute to John Clayton.

The Calls of the Week rank the calls from Reggie Miller, Jim Nantz, Ian Eagle, Andrew Catalon and Spero Dedes. Plus, the regular feature of "Who's up & Who's down."

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On this week’s pod, Andrew Marchand and John Ourand go into deep detail on what Joe Buck’s $75 million contract and Troy Aikman’s $90 million deal mean for Monday Night Football, ESPN and Fox. They also go around the NFL, analyzing how Fox plans to replace Buck on the Super Bowl and World Series, as well as its approach with Aikman’s spot. Plus, Al Michaels to Amazon is at the half-yard line with a lot of money on the line. And NBC Sports’ role in all of the movement Plus, Apple and Peacock’s future with their new MLB TV deals.

Plus, pod staples, “Who’s up, Who’s down” and the “Call of the Week.” The Big Get” is Bomani Jones, off the debut of his new HBO program, “Game Theory.”

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On this week’s pod, CBS Sports’ Kate Abdo gets us set for the UEFA Champions League final. ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne shares what went into executive producing her upcoming FX mini-series, "Clipped," about the Donald Sterling saga, and SBJ's Mollie Cahillane joins to tell us who's up and who's down in sports media.

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand go deep on Apple’s deal to carry an MLB doubleheader every Friday night and talk about what that deal means for other leagues and rival media companies. The NFL’s announcer moves was another big topic this week, as the duo looked into each network’s strategy in terms of signing talent. Marchand and Ourand dive into viewer complaints about ESPN’s performance for Coach K’s last home game at Duke and break down the streaming deal between Sinclair and the NBA. Podcast shoutouts go to Peter King, Jason Gay, Burke Magnus, Noah Garden, Michael Rubin and Jason Bennetti.

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Andrew Marchand and John Ourand break down Troy Aikman's move from Fox to ESPN for a record-setting five-year, $90-plus million. They look at Joe Buck, Fox and ESPN's decisons. What the next moves could have Al Michaels and Amazon. Plus, Amazon's interest in Kirk Herbstreit and their willingness to approach $100M for Sean McVay. They also go into MLB's pending deals with Apple and NBC when games resume. Plus, Sunday Ticket, Turner/US Soccer and a proper sendoff for Post MLB columnist Ken Davidoff. 

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Marchand and Ourand dissect Adam Silver’s comments about limiting locker room access for reporters. They also look into what’s next for the Olympics, which is coming off a disastrous two-year run in Japan and China. Marchand and Ourand discuss NFL media free agents this off-season and talk about NFL schedule changes that are likely to be implemented next season. Other topics include media prospects for the planned Saudi golf league and TV free agents in college football. Special mentions go to Holly Rowe, Phil Mickelson, Mike Tirico, Sean McVay, Ed Orgeron, Dan Mullen, Andrew Catalon, Craig Silver and Suzanne Smith.

 

NASCAR President Steve Phelps joins as “The Big Get” and talks about an exciting Daytona 500, NASCAR’s upcoming media rights negotiations, whether ESPN covers his sport enough and his favorite NASCAR announcer when he was growing up in Vermont.

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Marchand and Ourand go deep into what is next for Al Michaels, Sean McVay and Troy Aikman as they break down what could be a busy NFL TV offseason. The duo reviews NBC's Super Bowl coverage, doling out grades for the pregame and the game broadcast, identifying what went right and what went wrong. They go into the industry moves with Amazon's shift at the top and Turner Sports trying another "Manningcast" for the All-Star game. The two pick who was up and was down for the week and have their "Call of the Week."

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Super Bowl broadcaster Al Michaels joins the podcast this week to discuss his future role given that his NBC contract ends after the Super Bowl and he is being pursued by both Amazon and ESPN. Michaels also discusses his preparation for the Super Bowl and delivers his best Howard Cosell story.

 

Marchand and Ourand preview the Super Bowl and discuss the disappointing TV ratings coming from the Winter Olympics in Beijing. The duo dives deep on executive moves, from ESPN President Jimmy Pitaro’s new contract to Jeff Zucker’s sudden resignation from CNN and Turner Sports. They also talk about a financial analyst’s suggestion that Netflix start investing in live sports and the Cubs intention to launch a streaming service. Other notable mentions go to ESPN’s Mina Kimes, Turner’s Lenny Daniels, NBC’s Dan Masonson, Mike Tirico and Savannah Guthrie.

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Tom Brady’s media future is the first topic on this week’s podcast, as Marchand and Ourand discuss how Adam Schefter and Jeff Darlington broke the news of the quarterback’s retirement. The duo also discuss Tony Romo’s head-scratching analysis at the end of the AFC Championship game, the likelihood of Apple bidding on NFL Sunday Ticket, DraftKing’s move into producing sports content and the upcoming Olympics. Troy Aikman, Joe Buck, Jim Nantz and Nielsen CEO David Kenny get referenced in this week’s pod.

 

Hockey Hall of Famer and ESPN NHL analyst Mark Messier joins as “The Big Get,” and talks about why he shaved his head in the early 1990s and whether ESPN’s hockey analysts would beat Turner’s group of analysts. Messier also talks about his relationships with the media – both in Canada and the United States – during his playing career.

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Marchand and Ourand discuss the news that ESPN may pursue Al Michaels for Monday Night Football, even as he is way down the negotiation road with Amazon's Thursday Night Football. Michaels is slated to call the Super Bowl for NBC in less than three weeks and then the NFL TV Hot Stove will heat up. Troy Aikman and Sean Payton are possibly on the move. Sean McVay, who may stay as the Rams' coach, is a name that is high on TV executives' list. The guys get into how Netflix's earnings call could impact Disney's plans for ESPN. Plus, they talk about the Australian Open, the USFL and Marchand's Baseball Hall of Fame vote. The Calls of the Week ranks all the final calls from last second NFL playoff games. The "Who's and Who's Down" Awards have a football feel, as well.

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Marchand and Ourand dissect Drew Brees’ underwhelming performance as NBC’s game analyst on the Raiders-Bengals game. The two also speculate on the future of the “Monday Night Football” booth after Steve Levy, Brian Griese and Louis Riddick called their final game of the season. Other topics include: will conference commissioners expand the College Football Playoff; what’s does ESPN’s deal with Pete Thamel mean for Adam Shefter and Adrian Wojnarowski; what’s the latest on rumors that Disney is looking to spin off ESPN; and what’s the takeaway from Microsoft’s purchase of Activision.

 

Marchand and Ourand discuss feedback they received on their Mount Rushmore of NFL Media, while giving their weekly assessments of “Who’s Up” and “Who’s Down,” plus their “Calls of the Week.” Sean McManus, Burke Magnus, Bobby Kotick, Tony Romo and Tim Brando are in the mix.

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Marchand and Ourand unveil their Mount Rushmore of NFL Media, while discussing Apple's potential deal to call MLB games, Sinclair's agreement with the NBA, Sunday Night Baseball's new booths and The Athletic's deal with the New York Times. For "Who's up," "Who's down" and "Calls of the Week," LeBron James, Jen Lada, Ian Eagle and Chris Fowler are some of the names in the mix.

For "The Big Get" segment, Marchand and Ourand are joined by former Pro Bowler and current No. 2 Fox game analyst Greg Olsen. Olsen discusses how close he came to starting his broadcast career four years ago after an audition for Monday Night Football and discussions about Fox's Thursday Night Football. He reveals the advice Tony Romo gave him before deciding to enter the booth and he talks about his connection to his Fox partner Kevin Burkhardt, which dates back to when Burkhardt called Olsen's games in high school. 

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Andrew Marchand broke the story of MLB Network cutting ties with Ken Rosenthal. In their first podcast of 2022, Marchand and John Ourand discuss the fallout from that move. Other topics include the NFL’s first-ever Week 18, Kirk Herbstreit’s comments on college football players opting out of bowl games, Rachel Nichols next moves and the debut of Premier League games on USA Network. This episode’s Calls Of The Week are dedicated John Madden. Ourand goes to the college football arena for his Who’s Up of the week, while Marchand uses college football for his Who’s Down. Marchand’s Who Up is well known to the pod, while Ourand’s Who’s Down hits on Nielsen’s troubles.

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This week’s pod comes to you from 4se where SBJ’s Austin Karp is joined by basketball legend Sue Bird and award-winning director Dawn Porter as the duo share how their documentary, Power of the Dream, came together and what viewers can expect. Later in the show ,Ricardo Viramontes of The SpringHill Company/UNINTERRUPTED talks about how LeBron James and Maverick Carter are making their own mark in original content. Plus SBJ’s Mollie Cahillane joins the pod to add insight into the WNBA’s hot start and gets us set for the NBA Conference Finals.

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On the 2022 Preview Extravaganza, Andrew Marchand and John Ourand preview the people who are going to have the best and worst years in 2022, as part of their Who’s Up/Who’s Down segment. Topics include Amazon’s plans for Thursday Night Football, gambling companies’ push to create and pay for content and the future of the regional sports networks. Marchand and Ourand preview the rights deals that are coming in 2022 with Sunday, the Big Ten, MLS and Formula One. And they offer a preview of what viewers should expect at the Winter Olympics and World Cup.

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On the Year-in-Review Spectacular, Andrew Marchand and John Ourand pick their "Who's up" and "Who's down" for 2021. They analyze the biggest sports media topics of the year. The duo breaks down NFL TV deals, the Manningcast and the changing of the guard on Sunday Night Football. They look at the new power and money for the Pat Pat McAfees and Stephen A. Smiths of the world. Marchand and Ourand talk about the fallout from Maria Taylor/Rachel Nichols. They discuss the continuing fallout of cord-cutting for people like Sinclair's Chris Ripley and the proliferation of over-the-top, direct-to-consumer offerings. And they argue, once again, about Amazon sports. Plus, they award their Calls of the Year. 

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In this week's podcast, Andrew Marchand and John Ourand tell you why Pat McAfee and Jimmy Pitaro are on the way up. They go deeper into McAfee's FanDuel deal, Amazon's budding studio show and what Pitaro and ESPN are up to spending-wise. They also dissect the Monday Night Football booth's future, the issues with MLS Cup's start and examine Ourand's Crystal Ball for the Big 10 rights and Al Michaels. Plus, they are joined by ABC/ESPN lead game analyst Jeff Van Gundy, who has advice for New York coaches in dealing with the media. Van Gundy details how he and Marv Albert didn't see eye-to-eye on Patrick Ewing and how Albert helped him get into broadcasting. Van Gundy identifies his favorite back pages and chimes in on Shaquille O'Neal saying Van Gundy looks like Marchand. It's all in the pod, as well regular features of "Who's up! Who's down!" and the "Calls of the Week." 

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