Most pastors didn’t get into ministry to talk about money. But when a church grows, giving matters.
In our first episode, Overflow CEO Vance Roush sits down with Pastor Adam Mesa of Patria Church in Southern California. Pastor Adam shares how Patria talks about giving with no guilt and no empty promises. He explains how being open about money builds trust, why generosity has to be taught, and the simple things that help people follow through when they want to give.
Pastor Adam also shares two stories that shaped his life: giving away his first paycheck at 16, and the trip savings he and his wife Ashley used to buy a friend a car.
In this episode
- Building a space that shows people they’re cared for
- Doing things well without overspending
- Why Pastor Adam chose Overflow as a giving partner
- Running a capital campaign with full transparency
- No guilt, no promises: how Patria talks about giving
- What stops people from giving, and how to fix it
- “You already have a generous church”
- Debt, money skills, and why people who don’t give are often strapped, not stingy
- The car that started a habit of giving
- A prayer for pastors and leaders
About Pastor Adam
Adam Mesa is the Lead Pastor of Patria Church, a multi-site church in Southern California that his father started in 1994. Pastor Adam grew up in the church and leads with a passion for building spaces and systems that help people grow. He is also Overflow’s newest board member.
Mentioned in this episode
Generosity University: generosityuniversity.co
Overflow Tap: overflow.co/overflowtap
Patria Church: patria.church
This episode is brought to you by Generosity University. A course your small groups walk through together, with simple lessons on everything from building a budget to investing. When people get their money in order, they finally have room to give. See the first lesson at generosityuniversity.co
Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.
Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.
Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.
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