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On this episode of The Next Aid Station, Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison kick things off with Lexi Glenn, the inaugural women's course record holder at the DC Peaks 100, who shares her experience running an impressive 27-hour race. Then, the conversation turns to the 2026 Moab 240 and the controversy surrounding severe weather, race cancellations, and the decisions made by race management.

Drawing on their own experience as race directors, Jake and Mick discuss weather preparedness, emergency protocols, and the challenges of managing runners spread across hundreds of miles of terrain. They question whether different decisions could have allowed some runners to continue safely rather than ending the race for everyone still on course.

The discussion also revisits the early days of DC Peaks, including their own experiences navigating difficult weather and the lessons they've learned about making tough calls in the backcountry.

It's a candid conversation about ultrarunning, race directing, accountability, and balancing runner safety with the desire to finish a 240-mile race.

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Elijah Syndergaard joins Jake and Mick on The Next Aid Station after winning the inaugural DC Peaks 100 in a course-record time of 21:56. We break down his race, from battling the heat and grinding up Temple Ridge to finding a way through the low points and making it to the finish.

We also get into course-marking challenges, feedback from the inaugural race, and what the future of DC Peaks could look like. How long will Elijah’s course record last? Could someone eventually break 20 hours? And what would it take to make that happen?

Plus, we discuss the realities of pacing and crew support, race-day fueling, and whether Elijah would get a DC Peaks tattoo in exchange for free entry.

Thanks to Elijah for joining us—and congratulations on an incredible first year at DC Peaks!

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DC Peaks 100 is in the books! Jake and Mick are back to recap one of the biggest weekends yet for the race, including the first-ever 100-miler, standout performances, unexpected finish-line stories, and everything that went on behind the scenes to make it happen.

They also get into a recent doping controversy in road running and ask a bigger question: how much should we actually care about athletes cheating? Plus, they discuss why backyard ultras deserve more recognition, debate what it takes to earn Ultrarunner of the Year, and share some of the lessons they're already taking into DC Peaks 2027.

And, of course, there are giant pickles, missing aid stations, and one very important question: why does nobody at an ultramarathon seem to have a knife when you need one?

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This week, Jake and Mick dive into the latest drama surrounding Finn Melanson and Mike McKnight, including the controversy over Finn allegedly reaching out to race organizers about Mike's eligibility to compete. Was he right to raise the issue, or did he take things too far?

They also discuss the infamous Camille Herron OnlyFans saga, including her claim that she's now in the top 1%, and what the whole situation says about the strange intersection of ultrarunning, social media, and internet culture.

Plus, more trail-running drama, questionable opinions, and plenty of reasons to let the comments decide who's right.

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This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake and Mick dive into the debate surrounding Sydney Sweeney’s latest sports-betting ad and what it says—or doesn’t say—about women’s sports and why audiences are tuning in.

Then, Run Rabbit Run is putting $100,000 on the line for its winners, raising a bigger question: can prize money actually attract the athletes, attention, and prestige needed to make a race matter at the highest level?

Plus, a whole lot of discussion about what makes a trail race worth watching, where the money in the sport is going, and whether $100,000 is enough to move the needle.

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This week, we’re talking about one of the wildest HYROX stories imaginable: an athlete sh*tting herself mid-race and somehow continuing on. From there, we dive into the surprisingly small number of races that can qualify you for Hardrock 100, what it actually takes for a race to become a Hardrock qualifier, and why the qualification system is so selective.

Plus, Wasatch 100, race tracking, DC Peaks, and plenty of September 100-mile race talk.

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This week, Jake recaps the Dark Divide 100—a brutally remote race where just about everything that could go wrong seemed to go wrong. From questionable navigation and extra miles to gear failures, brutal weather, and a late-race crash, it was anything but a straightforward 100-mile finish.The guys also break down the surprisingly runnable Dark Divide course, look ahead to Wasatch 100, and get into the annual debate over who deserves to be Trail Runner of the Year. Plus, the usual questionable tangents along the way.

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This week, the guys recap UTMB, debate just how much UTMB coverage is too much, and ask the question everyone apparently has an opinion on: who is actually the best female trail runner in the world? Rachel’s monster season gets put up against some serious competition.

They also discuss the surprising cancellation of the Revel Mount Charleston Marathon—with the race called off seven months out and organizers reportedly keeping registration fees—and dig into what that says about the business of putting on races.

Plus: more UTMB talk, race predictions, and the usual collection of questionable opinions.

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UTMB week is here, and we’re breaking down one of the biggest stretches of trail running all year.

This week, we dive into the stacked fields at OCC, CCC, UTMB, and the races surrounding trail running’s biggest week, make our Fantasy Free Trail picks, and debate some of the toughest matchups on the board.

We also get into Claire Rhodes’ terrifying brown bear attack in Alaska, our upcoming HYROX race, what happens when your pacer leaves you behind at the Bear 100, and the possibility of showing up to a 100-miler with no crew, no pacer, and nothing but a few drop bags.

Plus, we pitch a new series: Next Aid Station Cribs, where we tour the glamorous lives, closets, Subarus, and questionable living situations of trail runners.

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This week, Jake and Mick sit down with Aaron Kubala, who's in the middle of an incredible run at the Triple Crown of 200s—and chasing a record that could put his name alongside one of the biggest names in ultrarunning.

But before he can get to Moab, Aaron had to survive Bigfoot 200, where a bizarre situation with his pacer resulted in a three-hour penalty. Aaron walks the guys through exactly what happened, how he handled losing three hours deep into a 200-mile race, and why he still believes the Triple Crown record is within reach.

The guys also discuss the growing debate around Hardrock's transgender and non-binary participation policy, what the policy actually says, and some of the questions it raises for ultrarunning as the sport continues to evolve.

Plus, plenty of discussion about the Triple Crown, 200-mile racing, and what it takes to chase records at the absolute limits of the sport.

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This week, Jake and Mick dive into another round of trail running conversations, from the future of the sport to some of the stranger things happening outside of it.

They talk about the growing popularity of trail running, whether the sport is becoming too serious and too snobby, and the surprising arrival of Wiz Khalifa as the newest member of the running community. They also discuss Wyoming Range, the challenges of 100-mile races, the future of human longevity, and where trail running might be headed as the sport continues to grow.

Plus, plenty of opinions, tangents, and questionable ideas along the way.

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Badwater, bib transfers, race rules, live tracking, and the questionable state of trail running media—this week, Jake and Mick have plenty to argue about.

They break down Badwater 135 and debate whether some of the sport's biggest races are getting too complicated, whether runners should be able to freely transfer race entries, and whether live tracking and constant updates actually make races better. They also dive into the growing European trail scene, try to figure out what race they're even talking about, and discuss the mysterious listeners who apparently refuse to publicly acknowledge that they listen to the podcast.

Plus, the usual trail running tangents, questionable opinions, and plenty of stuff that probably shouldn't have made it onto the internet.

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This week, we recap a scorching Speedgoat weekend, discuss race logistics after reports of water shortages, question whether AI is becoming less reliable, and look at the growing impact of UTMB on Chamonix. We also dive into the ongoing debate surrounding BPC-157, WADA regulations, and whether ultra running has the right approach to banned substances.

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Jake and Mick recap a chaotic week in trail running, including the aftermath of Jake's DC Peaks 100-mile DNF. After looking back at the race, Jake thinks he may have finally figured out exactly what went wrong: a combination of heat, hydration, and a fueling plan that didn't quite work the way he thought it would.

The guys break down the math behind ultra fueling, discuss how even experienced runners can make basic mistakes, and talk about what they would do differently next time. They also dive into a new 200-mile race, the challenges of training for 40,000 feet of climbing, the future of trail running, and plenty of other questionable topics along the way.

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You trained for months, booked the travel, paid the entry fee—and then the race gets cancelled. Now what?

This week, Jake and Mick break down race cancellations, what recourse runners actually have, and where the responsibility falls when an event never reaches the starting line.

Then we recap a historic Hardrock 100. Ludovic Pommeret delivered a third straight victory while setting a new overall course record, and Courtney Dauwalter returned to the top of the women’s race with a new clockwise course record. We cover the biggest performances, surprises, and takeaways from another wild weekend in Silverton.

Finally, Jake is taking on the DC Peaks 100 in the middle of a Utah heat wave. Come support him this week as he tries to hit a sub 24 hour finish on our brand new course!

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Taylor Spike joins the podcast to share the story behind his 300-mile Arizona Monster finish, what he learned from leading much of the race, and why the miles themselves aren't the most meaningful part of the journey.

The conversation goes far beyond racing as Taylor opens up about sobriety, building the Spike Camp community, the importance of belonging, and how adventure can become a powerful tool for personal growth. Whether you're an ultrarunner or just someone looking for purpose through challenge, this is a conversation you won't want to miss.

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Western States may be in the books, but the ultrarunning world isn't slowing down. Jake and Mick discuss the uncertainty surrounding Hardrock, what the conditions could mean for this year's race, and the latest news leading into one of the sport's most iconic events.

Later in the episode, they call Jeff Browning, fresh off his record-breaking performance at Western States, where he became the fastest 50+ finisher in race history. Jeff reflects on his race, the mindset behind chasing a record, how Cocodona affected his preparation, and what lies ahead as Hardrock quickly approaches.

Whether you're following Hardrock, reliving Western States, or just love hearing from one of the sport's most accomplished veterans, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

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It's Western States week, which means every trail running podcast, YouTube channel, and media outlet is releasing preview content.So naturally, we decided to do the same.This week, Jake and Mick break down the men's and women's races, make a few bold predictions, discuss whether anyone can beat Jim Walmsley, and explain why Hans Troyer might be the future of the sport. Along the way, they talk race strategy, media overload, and what makes Western States the biggest event in trail running.Whether you're following every split or just trying to survive race week content, we've got you covered.Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytesUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison#TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC

Broken Arrow weekend has arrived, and with TrailCon and Western States right around the corner, trail running is entering one of its biggest stretches of the year.

This week, Jake and Mick break down the Broken Arrow 23K and 46K fields, discuss the eye-popping prize money on the line, make Fantasy Free Trail picks, and talk about the athletes they'll be watching throughout the weekend. They also discuss recent race results, the Bear 100 qualifier series, TrailCon, Western States storylines, and a surprisingly intense conversation about prize money distribution in professional trail running.

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Jake and Mick reflect on the recent controversy surrounding the "Here for the Men's Meat" shirt, the conversations it sparked, and the decision to retire the design. They discuss community feedback, navigating disagreement online, and the challenges of balancing intent with impact.They also cover Western States storylines and other topics from around the trail running world.Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytesUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison#TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC

Mick is finally back, and things go off the rails almost immediately. We cover the Cam and Sage drama, the absurd stack-height controversy from a college track championship, why trail running attracts so many rule enthusiasts, Western States storylines, Pete's Meats, and somehow end up discussing Juneteenth. Just another normal episode of The Next Aid Station.

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Manuela Vilaseca is the current Triple Crown of 200s record holder. In this episode, we chat about what drew her to attempt the triple crown, why she often prefers no crew or pacers, and her plans for the future.

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In this episode, we talk Cocodona, Badwater 135, and the business of ultrarunning. Sally talks about her experience with Nike Trail, where she'll go next, and gives advice to emerging trail athletes on how to work with brands without losing yourself.

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This episode of The Next Aid Station picks up just after Jake survived Cocodona 250 in a little over 73 hours, finishing 14th male and looking like a man who had legally died sometime around mile 130. Jake and Mick unpack the chaos of race week, the crowds, and the live-stream madness.

The boys also dive into the week’s biggest trail running drama: Sage Canaday vs. “that hybrid athlete influencer who likes bow hunting,” Francesco Puppi declaring 200-milers “not real trail running,” and the unofficial finisher controversy that had ultra runners debating whether one minute past cutoff means you ran 250 miles… or apparently didn’t.

Somewhere in the middle of all that are dirt naps, blown quads at mile 40, fence ladders from hell, emergency hot dogs used as recovery science, and Jamil Coury appearing over sleeping runners at aid stations like a trail-running guardian angel. It’s part race recap, part group therapy, and part evidence that ultrarunners should probably be supervised.

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Cocodona Week Kicks Off with Finn Melanson (Singletrack)

Jake and Mick sit down with Finn Melanson for a loose, wide-ranging conversation ahead of the Cocodona 250.

We break down our full top 10 picks for the men's and women's fields.

Finn shares the story behind "The Finisher," his Jasmin Paris Barkley film, nd what's next for trail documentaries.

The realities of race directing through bad weather

And a "Keep Five, Cut Five" game pitting Jake against the Cocodona field.

Plus tangents on the NBA playoffs, Utah Mammoth hockey, and why local community matters more than chasing national reach.

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We're back with a big sponsor announcement (live unboxing inside), full picks for Canyons 100k and Madeira, and a debate on whether Boston should count as a record-eligible marathon after Korir's 2:01:52.Plus: the Nike drama, backyard ultras, and why certain agents don't want their runners on this podcast.Use code NEXTAIDSTATION for 15% off our new sponsor.

He drank from a lake, ran down podium spots at 4am, and now has one of the craziest ultra race calendars of the year.

What happens when a rookie ultra runner shows up to the biggest races… and starts beating pros?

In this episode of Next Aid Station, we sit down in St. George with Coleman Cragun, one of the fastest rising names in trail running and ultrarunning. In his first year as an ultra runner, Coleman finished top 10 at major races like Canyons 50K, Broken Arrow, Speedgoat, Kodiak, and Chiang Mai… all while working a full-time job and training 20–30 hours a week.

We break down his insane rookie season, what it’s like racing against the best in the world, and why he still doesn’t have a sponsor.

In this episode:

• How Coleman Cragun went from SUU walk-on to elite trail runner
• Training with Hayden Hawks in Utah
• Losing all his gels at the start of a race… and still finishing top 5
• His first 100K experience at Black Canyon
• Why most ultra runners still have full-time jobs
• The truth about sponsorships in trail running
• Strategy shifts from surviving races to competing for podiums

If you’re into trail running, ultramarathons, UTMB, 50K and 100K racing, or want to understand what it takes to compete at the highest level, this episode delivers.

We found/fixed/recovered somewhat the Kilian Korth episode that we recorded about a month ago.

This is one of our favorites recently because Kilian is the best hang. We kicked it with him for hours just talking everything sports, ultrarunning, olympics, you name it. Don't miss this episode!!!!

Every runner knows that the rules of the race are what keep it fair. But what happens when the officials change the course markers mid-run just to ensure you DNF?Today, we’re stepping off the trail to sit down with Jake Kilgore’s defense attorney for a shocking look inside a federal investigation that prioritized a "win" over the truth.In this episode, we uncover:The "Conspiracy" Pivot: How the FBI moved the goalposts to "Conspiracy to Commit Medicare Fraud" after they couldn't prove actual fraud.The Forced Plea: The underhanded and illegal tactics used to corner Jake into a plea deal he didn't want to take.The Political Win: Why the Utah government needed a "big win" and why Jake was the chosen target.The Human Cost: What it looks like when the power of the federal government is used to break an individual for the sake of optics.This isn’t about ultrarunning, but it is about the grit required to face an uphill battle where the summit is rigged.

When it comes to the 200-mile distance, Mike McKnight is the undisputed GOAT, and frankly, as long as he loves the trail, he’s going to keep dominating it. While most runners would say, "quit playing games with my heart" after the first 50 miles, Mike leans into the pain because he wants it that way. His endurance is larger than life, proving that even when your legs feel like they’re screaming "bye bye bye" (wait, wrong boy band), Mike knows exactly how to show you the meaning of being lonely out there in the high desert at 3:00 AM. Everybody (yeahhhh), Mike McKnight's back, alright!

What happens when a simple trail run turns into a federal case? This week on The Next Aid Station, we sit down with Michelino Sunseri to discuss one of the most bizarre sagas in ultrarunning history.Michelino wasn’t just hit with a fine or a slap on the wrist. Instead, he found himself at the center of a high-profile National Park Service crackdown—becoming the "poster boy" for a violation that normally ends with a simple citation. From being charged by the NPS to receiving an official pardon from President Donald Trump, Michelino’s story is a wild look at what happens when bureaucracy decides to make an example out of you.

We finally got Jazmine Lowther in the studio for the Next Aid Station. No rigid interview questions here—just a long-form hangout about the sport, the community, and what's going on in her life.

We have some "good news, bad news" for the community today.

First, the bad news: Technology 1, Podcast 0. We unfortunately lost the raw files for our interview with Kilian Korth. It’s a gut punch for us, and we know you were looking forward to it, but we’re working on getting him back on the schedule soon.

Now, the big news: The long-awaited DC Peaks 100 Miler is officially a go for this Fall.

We’re stepping up from the 50 to the full century mark. In this short episode, we’re breaking down:

• The Fall Timeline: When you can expect to toe the line.

• The Route: What 100 miles of DC Peaks actually looks like.

• Registration: How to get in before the spots vanish.

The Kilian episode might be gone, but the 100 miler is here to stay. Let’s get to work.

This is a massive moment for the Utah trail community. We get Alex Docta, the Race Director of the brand-new Snowbasin by UTMB, on the phone to get the inside scoop on what to expect for the 2026 inaugural race.From the vertical gain on the 58K to the "runnable" singletrack of the 28K, we break down why this race is a game-changer for the Wasatch. Plus, stick around as we open a surprise care package from the newly rebranded Nike ACG live on air—is this the gear that will dominate the 2026 season?🏔️ What We Cover:The Big Reveal: Why UTMB chose Snowbasin and what makes this course unique.Course Breakdown: A deep dive into the 58km (5,800' gain) and 28km (2,400' gain) routes.Registration & Dates: Everything you need to know for September 10–12, 2026.Nike ACG Unboxing: Jake gets a surprise package from Nike ACG?

Season 4 of The Next Aid Station is officially underway.

We kick things off by diving into the current state of ultra running, breaking down the top 10 men’s and women’s ultra runners shaping the sport right now. From dominant veterans to athletes redefining what’s possible, we talk performances, trends, and what’s standing out heading into the season.

We also preview what’s ahead in Season 4—new conversations, deeper storytelling, and a continued focus on the people, races, and moments that make ultra running what it is.

Whether you’re lining up for your first ultra or deep in the sport, Season 4 starts here.

1-star reviews, Hardrock drama, doping fears, and the future of ultrarunning.

In this episode of The Next Aid Station, we take an unfiltered look at where trail and ultrarunning is headed — and why not everyone likes what we have to say.

We read and react to brutal podcast reviews, break down Hardrock lottery controversy, debate Ultrarunner of the Year candidates, and talk openly about money, pressure, and the growing risk of doping as the sport professionalizes.

From Courtney Dauwalter’s future and comeback seasons, to why saying the quiet part out loud gets you 1-star ratings, this episode pulls no punches.

If you care about the direction of trail running — the good, the bad, and the uncomfortable — this conversation is for you.

• 1-star reviews & internet outrage culture

• Hardrock lottery drama & elite selection

• Courtney Dauwalter & Katie Schide predictions

• Ultrarunner of the Year debates

• Prize money, sponsorships & ACG’s impact

• Doping concerns in ultrarunning

• Comeback seasons vs DNFs

• 2026 predictions for the sport

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This week on The Next Aid Station, we break down the matchups trail running has been waiting for: Courtney DeWalter vs. Katie Schide and Caleb Olson vs. Tom Evans. With Hardrock and Western States fields taking shape, the stage is set for some of the most competitive racing the sport has ever seen.

We also get into the upcoming lotteries, Utah’s new 200-miler, Christian Allen’s breakout road performance, the TRE scheduling fiasco, and the latest trail running film debates. From bold hot takes to real analysis, this episode dives into every corner of the sport — the drama, the rivalries, and the races that will define 2025.

In this episode:

• Courtney vs Katie: early Hardrock predictions

• Caleb vs Tom: Western States showdown potential

• Why Western is suddenly stacked again

• Christian Allen’s 2:09 marathon and mountain crossover

• Utah announces a 200-mile race

• Mike McKnight gets into Hardrock

• Chuckanut 50K planning

• Trail running film of the year debates

• College football chaos (and how we’d fix it)

• Scott’s Hurt 100 training updates

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This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & MIck break down one of the most stacked episodes of the season — from Michael Greer’s 96-hour, 100,000 ft fundraiser, to the wildest NBA All-Star format yet, to a full Siskel & Ebert-style review of every major trail running documentary of 2024.

Plus: the spiciest trail drama of the year, our picks for JFK 50, and why Western States / Hardrock lottery week is about to get VERY interesting.

In this episode:• Michael Greer finishes 225 miles with 100K ft climbing• Community fundraiser for Aaron Jensen & Kelly West• NBA All-Star chaos: USA vs USA vs World• The “Black vs White All-Star Game” bit goes completely off-rails• Guinness World Record: 1,516 threes in one hour?!• Abby Hall + Kilian Jornet confirm return to Western States 2026• FULL Trail Running Film of the Year breakdown• The Finisher, The Chase, King of Moab, Nothing to Lose & more• Major trail drama of the year (McAleenan, USATF, Zach Miller, Arizona Monster)• JFK 50 predictions• Western States & Hardrock lottery hype• Plans for Austin, TRE, Tesla tour, and a quick show break

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This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & Mick dive into the strangest mix of trail running news, viral moments, and hot takes you didn’t know you needed. From Trump pardoning a trail runner to HOA rage and NBA rants, it’s equal parts ridiculous and insightful — exactly what you expect when the coffee hits before recording.

In this episode:

00:00 – Kicking off with chaos (and a quick Google search)01:00 – Jake’s “Glizzy Halloween” goes viral04:00 – NBA rant: Zion, Ja, and wasted potential09:30 – Trump pardons a trail runner?!13:50 – The 99% conviction rate rant21:20 – HOA guy named Bart gets roasted24:00 – Mask wars at 30,000 feet31:10 – Western States & Hardrock lottery talk37:40 – Barkley Marathon secrets40:10 – Cross-country shoutout in Spokane42:20 – Caleb Olson’s GT100 win47:00 – Stage races: fun or gimmick?49:30 – Who’s the real UROY?53:50 – Movie critics, Siskel & Ebert roast57:20 – Tunnel Hill records & Camille Herron debate1:04:20 – Jake vs. Scott: alternate course race idea1:07:20 – YouTube comments & Rachel vs. Tara1:20:20 – Camille’s “Men’s Meat x Women’s Race” collab1:23:20 – Sponsors, growth, and what’s next

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She’s redefining what it means to be an ultrarunner.

Rachel Entrekin — physical therapist, 200-mile champion, and one of the fastest-rising names in trail running — joins The Next Aid Station for a raw, unfiltered deep dive into the evolution of the sport, the power of storytelling, and what it really takes to win at the edge of human endurance.From racing at Mammoth and Cocodona to debating UTMB’s dominance, Rachel opens up about everything: the politics of sponsorship, how livestreams are reshaping ultrarunning, and what it feels like to be called the “Queen of 200s.”

Whether you’re a diehard fan or training for your first ultra, this is one of the most honest conversations you’ll hear about the sport’s future.

Timestamps:

⸻00:00 – Intro: The Men’s Meet x Women’s Race Collab01:00 – Meet Rachel Entrekin: The 200-Mile Queen Arrives03:00 – Running 19 Miles at 7:30 Pace (and Loving It?)05:00 – Beer, Basketball & Blue Moon Confessions07:00 – Rachel on Caitlin Clark & Why Competition Fuels Her08:30 – Can Rachel Beat Courtney Dauwalter? Let’s Talk About It10:30 – DNFs, Redemption & The Drive to Race Again12:00 – Who Gets to Decide What Races Matter?14:00 – Runners vs. Brands: Taking Back the Power16:00 – Why Live Streams Are Changing the Sport18:00 – Making Ultrarunning More Professional — Without Losing Its Soul20:00 – UTMB Is Coming to Utah: What It Means for Local Races23:00 – Are 200-Milers the Future of the Sport?25:00 – How Rachel & Jamil Are Changing Ultrarunning Forever27:00 – The Marketing Power of 200-Milers (and Why Brands Don’t Get It)30:00 – Why Visibility Matters More Than Winning33:00 – Do Prize Purses Even Matter? (Spoiler: No)35:00 – Being Labeled the “200-Mile Specialist” — and Fighting That Box37:00 – Rachel’s Big Goals: Hardrock, UTMB & Beyond40:00 – The Problem With How Athletes Are Paid43:00 – Storytelling Over Podiums: The Real Value of an Athlete46:00 – Branding, Sponsorships & What Runners Get Wrong Online48:00 – How Rachel Nearly Caught Jimmy Elam at Mammoth50:00 – Learning to “Make Moves” — Racing Smarter, Not Harder53:00 – Race Plans, Hardrock Dreams & UTMB Hopes57:00 – How Rachel Plans to Prove She Belongs Among the Best59:00 – Rachel on Inspiring Young Runners (and Her Favorite Fan Moment)01:01:00 – Why Accessibility Matters: Making Elites Relatable01:03:00 – Javelina Predictions: Who She’s Betting On01:06:00 – Rachel’s Next Chapter: From Racing to Commentating01:08:00 – Closing Thoughts: The Future of Ultra Running with Rachel Entrekin

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It finally happened — Mick toed the line at Javelina Jundred and brought home his first 100-mile belt buckle. But it didn’t come easy. From a brutal first lap in a black T-shirt and handheld bottle, to puking in the desert and pounding ginger ale to survive, this is a full breakdown of what happens when your body and mind hit the wall.

Jake and Mick dive into every lap of the legendary Javelina 100, unpacking the chaos, the lessons, and the moments that made this one unforgettable. From race-day mistakes and heat-management disasters to the ginger-ale miracle that turned it all around, this episode captures the full rollercoaster of running 100 miles in the Arizona desert.

They also cover what’s next: the off-season training block, body-composition surprises, HYROX hot takes, and the long road to Cocodona 250.

Whether you’re training for your first ultra or just love hearing what it really takes to earn a buckle, this one’s packed with grit, humor, and honesty.

What You’ll Hear In This Episode:

• The full Javelina 100-mile recap — heat, blisters, and redemption

• The fueling breakdown (why ginger ale beats water)

• Lessons learned from the crew tent and aid-station chaos

• How to fix mid-race nausea when your stomach shuts down

• Real talk on pacing, mindset, and post-race recovery

• Community moments, haters, and the rise of The Next Aid Station

• Winter training goals: F45, strength, and staying sharp for Cocodona

• Reflections on Camille’s episode, kindness, and online culture

• Behind-the-scenes: the one-bed hotel story and merch mayhem

About The Show

The Next Aid Station is the ultrarunning podcast that goes beyond splits and shoe talk — hosted by Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison, it’s where race stories meet real life. Each week, we dive deep into the highs, lows, and absurd moments that make the endurance world what it is.

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She’s a world record holder, a whistleblower, and the queen of Javelina Jundred.

In this raw and hilarious conversation, Camille Herron opens up about her world records, the truth behind the USATF controversy, and how she’s using her voice to advocate for inclusion in ultrarunning.

From tacos and super shoes to lawsuits and laughter, this is one of the most unfiltered episodes yet.

Recorded in Scottsdale before Javelina Jundred, Jake, Mick, and Scott sit down with ultrarunning icon Camille Herron — the woman who’s redefined endurance running. Camille breaks down how she’s still setting records in her 40s, her neurodivergent journey with autism and ADHD, and the real story behind her recent media controversies. Plus, she talks Taco Bell, training, fairness in sport, and why she can absolutely laugh at the “Steely Toughness” memes.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid Station

00:18 – Introducing the Queen of Javelina: Camille Herron

01:04 – Driving Chaos: Camille’s Journey to Scottsdale

01:26 – Setting World Records: The Spark that Drives Her

02:10 – From 50 Miles to 6 Days: Camille’s Record-Breaking Range

03:15 – Super Shoes & Longevity in Running

04:00 – Trails vs Roads: Why Camille Loves to Go Fast

04:50 – “What’s a Javelina?” — Camille’s Wild Desert Encounters

06:00 – Running with 1,500 People: The Javelina Party Vibe

07:00 – Taco Bell, Tacos, and World Records

08:00 – Taco Bell Sends Camille a $10 Gift Card (and a Lifetime of Laughs)

09:00 – Homemade Tacos & the Men’s Meat Shirt Connection

09:45 – Would Camille Pace a Lap at Javelina?

10:10 – Running 300 Miles and Carrying Your Own… What?!

10:57 – When Nature Calls: Camille’s Funniest Marathon Stories

11:19 – The Super Shoe Revolution Explained

13:10 – Running Boston After the Bombing: A Powerful Moment

14:00 – Rules, Fairness & Integrity: Camille’s View on Governing Bodies

16:20 – Inside the Record Controversy: When a Course Isn’t “Certified Enough”

18:00 – Calibration, Clocks, and Controversy — How Tiny Errors Cost Big

20:00 – The Hidden Bureaucracy Behind Every World Record

22:00 – “World Best” vs. “World Record” — What’s the Difference?

23:20 – How Camille Changed the Rules for Drug Testing in Ultras

24:10 – How Many World Records Does Camille Actually Hold?

25:15 – Who Could Break Her Javelina Record?

26:00 – How She Could Shave Minutes Off Her 14:03 Course Record

27:15 – The Women Who Might Be Next: Predictions for Javelina 2024

29:00 – Cheering While Racing — Why Camille Loses Her Voice

30:20 – Neurodivergence, Autism & ADHD in the Ultra World

33:00 – Breaking Down the USA Track & Field Controversy

35:00 – The Fight for Accommodations & Inclusion in Athletics

38:00 – Communication Breakdown: How It All Went Wrong with USATF

42:00 – Following Legal Advice & Protecting Herself from Misrepresentation

45:00 – What She Would (and Wouldn’t) Do Differently

47:10 – Why Inclusivity in Running Still Has a Long Way to Go

52:00 – Trail vs Road Running: Finding Calm in Chaos

55:00 – How Her Autism Diagnosis Changed Everything

57:00 – The Greatest Female Ultrarunners of All Time

59:00 – Is Camille in the Top 3? (Spoiler: Yes.)

1:01:00 – Who Inspires Camille: Ruth Croft, Courtney, Katie & More

1:03:00 – Wikipedia, Whistleblowing, and the Truth Behind the “Steely Toughness” Story

1:06:00 – Why Camille Reported Rule Violations in Ultra Running

1:07:00 – Justice Sensitivity & Integrity in Sport

1:08:00 – The Wikipedia “Scandal”: Her Side of the Story

1:10:00 – Where “Steely Toughness” Really Came From

1:13:00 – The Real Story Behind the Edits & The Lawsuit

1:16:00 – Clearing the Air: “It Was Never Me — It Was My Husband”

1:17:00 – Halloween Costumes, Humor & Good Vibes

1:20:00 – The Story Behind “Men’s Meat” and Internet Outrage

1:23:00 – Camille’s Reaction to the Men’s Meat Shirt (She Loves It)

1:24:00 – Laughing It Off: Camille’s Humor Shines

1:25:00 – Closing Thoughts with The Queen of Javelina

Recorded in Scottsdale, AZ just before Javelina Jundred, Jake and Mick sit down with Killian to talk about life after conquering Moab, Bigfoot, and Tahoe — and how he’s handling his sudden rise in the ultrarunning world. They dive deep into fueling, mindset, social media growth, and what it takes to stay disciplined when running 200+ miles at a time. Plus, the guys share some hilarious off-trail stories (including the legendary “One Guy, Four Dogs” moment)

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome to Scottsdale! Jake, Mick & Killian Kick Things Off

00:45 – “It’s Burning Man for Runners” — The Wild Vibe at Javelina Jundred

02:05 – Pre-Race Nerves, Aid Stations, and the Halloween Party Atmosphere

03:40 – Killian’s Race Goals & Coaching Athletes

04:45 – Fueling for 200-Milers: How Many Carbs Is Enough?

06:25 – Fireball Shots, Kombucha, and Pumpkin Spice: The Crew Debates Nutrition

08:10 – The “Injury” That’s Not an Injury: Killian’s Knee Tape Ritual

09:20 – From Unknown to Trail Superstar — How Moab Changed Everything

10:30 – How Killian Went Viral After Moab 240 (and What He Did Right)

12:00 – Fame, Privacy & Sponsorships — Handling the Spotlight After Moab

13:10 – Ultra Running Business Talk: Agents, Contracts, and Shoe Deals

15:00 – Should 200-Milers Count for Ultrarunner of the Year? The Debate

18:00 – What 200 Miles Really Feels Like (and Why It’s Worth It)

20:30 – Blisters, Hallucinations & Pain at Mile 200 — Moab 240 Stories

22:10 – Running With Gratitude: Why It’s All Worth It

23:00 – Motivation vs. Discipline: What Drives Elite Ultrarunners

24:20 – Avoiding Burnout & Building the Perfect Training Routine

26:10 – “It’s Just a 50” — Why Every Distance Deserves Respect

27:45 – Life After the Triple Crown: Balance, Rest & French Fries

29:00 – The Infamous “Four Guys, Four Dogs” Story (Hilarious)

33:00 – Keeping It Classy… Kinda — Laughter & Chaos in the Studio

36:30 – Coca-Dona Predictions: Who Can Beat Killian?

38:40 – Why Rachel’s One of the Best in the World (and Nobody’s Talking About It)

40:50 – What’s Next: Killian’s 2025 Goals & The Colorado Trail Dream

42:05 – San Juan Mountains Training Plans & Wrap-Up

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🎙 It’s Belt Buckle Week! Jake and Mick are fired up for the javelina 100, breaking down race strategy, fantasy picks, and the wildest ultrarunning news of the week. From UTMB coming to Utah to Camille Herron’s legal showdown, this episode is packed with controversy, comedy, and insider insight into the trail running world.

🔥 Highlights:

• UTMB rumored to launch a 100-miler in Utah

• The Moab 240 drama with Brody Chisholm & Candice Burt

• Camille Herron’s autism & USATF controversy

• Manuela's 200-mile record that no one’s talking about

• Fantasy Free Trail picks for Havalina 100 (Golden Ticket predictions!)

• Mick’s pre-race prep & Jake’s live YouTube stream plans🎯

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This episode has everything — elite racing, wild controversy, and one of the rawest interviews we’ve ever done.Trail-runner Kilian Korth joins us fresh off his Moab 240 victory to unpack his Triple Crown sweep, insane weather, and how he handled 28 miles of mud on destroyed feet.

Jake Kilgore relives his Kodiak 100 age category win that locked a direct UTMB entry, and the guys tackle the internet drama over their now-infamous “Here for the Men’s Meet” shirt.If you love trail running, dark humor, and real conversations about racing, community, and mindset — this is your episode.

Timestamps:00:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” ControversyJake & Mick open with the viral shirt backlash — humor, misunderstanding, and how sarcasm dies on Instagram.03:20 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid StationThe hosts kick off another Tuesday episode and dive straight into recovery talk and sore-quads confessions.07:00 – The Moab 240 & Triple Crown BreakdownSetting the stage: Kilian Korth’s win, the brutal conditions, and what makes Moab different from every other 200-miler.08:10 – LIVE Call with Kilian KorthFresh off his Moab 240 victory, Kilian joins the show to unpack mud, misery, and mindset in his hardest race ever.14:00 – The Brody Leven ControversyWas he pulled too early? Kilian reacts to the drama at mile 54 and gives his take on race-director decisions.17:00 – Racing Through the Mud & Mental BattlesKilian’s raw account of the rain, exhaustion, and the mental fight that defined his Triple Crown sweep.20:00 – Aid-Station Strategy & Sleep ScienceHow Kilian managed foot pain, minimal rest, and elite-level efficiency — plus why a good crew can change everything.22:00 – What’s Next for Kilian KorthWhy he’s taking an off-season and processing the spotlight after the biggest win of his career.24:00 – Post-Interview ReactionsJake, Mick & Scott debrief the conversation, reveal behind-the-scenes footage, and tease Kilian’s documentary.30:00 – Trail Running News Round-UpCourtney Dauwalter’s road-marathon debut, Truett’s 2:25 at St. George, Connor Mantz’s new American record — full breakdown.38:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” BacklashWhy some people lost their minds over a joke tee, the meaning behind it, and how the guys plan to win skeptics over.47:00 – Kodiak 100 Recap 🏔️Jake’s full race story: training, strategy, near-perfect execution, and taking the 45-49 age-group crown (again).1:03:00 – Critical Gear Decisions That Won the RacePoles or no poles? Bladder or flasks? The tiny choices that made hours of difference.1:33:00 – Post-Race Reflection & UTMB Direct EntryEarning a UTMB spot, what it really means, and the plan heading into 2026.1:45:00 – Off-Season, Goals & Closing BanterJake on recovery mode, Mick’s Javelina prep, and the team’s next adventures.

🏆 “He ran through a storm — and came out a champion.”When freezing rain, 40 mph wind, and mud hit DC Peaks 50, Eli White didn’t just survive — he thrived. The Salt Lake Running Company athlete takes us behind the scenes of his shocking 2025 victory, sharing how he trained, fueled, and battled for the win on one of the toughest ultramarathon days ever.In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “Lucky Pierre” dive deep into Eli’s mindset, gear choices, and wildest race moments — including how a mid-race fall, caffeine boost, and strategic moves sealed his win.Whether you’re training for your first ultra or chasing a 100-mile PR, this episode is a masterclass in racing smart under pressure.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & Winner IntroductionEli White joins the pod fresh off his DC Peaks 50 victory — and “People’s Choice” favorite.01:00 – Betting on the Podium: Who Called It Right?The hosts break down their pre-race picks and how the stormy day reshaped the results.02:30 – Eli’s Journey: From Biology Professor to Running ProHow Eli went from teaching science to managing Salt Lake Running Company — and why it changed his life.04:45 – Why He Signed Up Last Minute for DC Peaks 50What pushed Eli to finally register just two weeks before race day.06:15 – Race Day Chaos: The Storm, the Course, and Staying AliveHow he planned his splits in the middle of unpredictable weather.08:00 – The Turning Point: When Eli Took the LeadA deep dive into his mid-race battle with Matt — and how a caffeine gel and rain jacket swap changed everything.12:20 – The Chase: Passing Matt and Building the GapEli explains exactly where and how he made his move through North Canyon’s smooth trails.15:10 – The Muddy Showdown at SummerwoodThe out-and-back moment that sealed the win — and what it’s like seeing your competition mid-race.18:00 – The Wild Finish Line CelebrationInside Eli’s “home run” finish and what made this stormy race so unforgettable.19:10 – Race Weekend Decisions: Saturday or Sunday?Eli breaks down how runners voted and why he preferred running through the rain.21:30 – Battling the Weather: Wind, Rain, and Survival ModeRunning through freezing wind, soaked trails, and mental toughness at its peak.25:00 – Shoe Talk: What Carried Him to VictoryThe surprising shoe choice that helped him win — and a mini gear chat with Jake & Mick.29:00 – Inside the Salt Lake “JV Team”Meet the crew behind Utah’s rising trail runners — and the inside jokes that power them.30:00 – Bear 100: Redemption Story in the MakingEli’s unfinished business at Bear 100 and how he plans to come back stronger.33:00 – Taper Tips & Pre-Race MindsetEli’s philosophy on tapering, training, and keeping your legs fresh.39:00 – Future Goals & Marathon SpeedFrom a 2:31 marathon to mountain ultras — what’s next for Eli White.41:00 – Closing Thoughts: Lessons from the StormThe mindset, preparation, and grit behind one of the gnarliest DC Peaks finishes ever.