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It’s Your Story, Too: Thank You, Jesus Storybook Bible Podcast Listeners31 Dec 202400:12:12

Sally Lloyd-Jones and Team Jesus Storybook Bible have loved connecting with listeners the last three plus years on The Jesus Storybook Bible Podcast, a place for us to share thoughts and stories from guests who give us a peek inside their everyday lives—often giving us a glimpse into the extraordinary circumstances they’ve experienced in their faith. In this episode, Sally shares a personal, special message of thanks for our listeners and recaps some of our most notable guest stories—including a never-before-shared reading from the Jesus Storybook Bible. Starting in January 2025, the podcast will be on hiatus so we can prepare for some exciting projects we have in the works. Be sure to keep up with Jesus Storybook Bible on social media, YouTube, and online to hear what new projects and initiatives are coming! 

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

173. Building Little Habits to Grow a Big Faith: Christie Thomas26 Dec 202400:09:53

Author and mom of three boys Christie Thomas knows that when it comes to building faith in the lives of our children, there are three golden rules: keep it short and simple, keep it real, and make it playful. She shares how instilling small habits with a dose of fun can be the spark that lights a growing faith for the whole family. 

 

Quotes

“There are so many spots in the Bible where we just offer something really little. God is the one that takes it and makes it into something big and beautiful. When we focus on these little tiny things that we can do in our lives—following God's leading in that—then we're giving Him the glory and letting Him do what He wants in our family.” - Christie Thomas

“If you're praying about something in your life, you can point your kids to that and say, ‘Look at God actually answering these prayers.’” - Christie Thomas    

“When you bring joy into your devotional time or your prayer, they're going to be so much more likely to want to do it.” - Christie Thomas 

“Christ has come to set us free. He's a gentle shepherd, not a harsh master. He will lead us and guide us and give us inspiration. We can choose to trust in God's love. We can let Him chase away the fear that we're going to do it wrong, or the fear that we’ll push our kids away from God if we talk about Him too much, and we can let Him bring the joy of growing in faith alongside our kids.” - Christie Thomas

 

Guest’s Links
Christie Thomas’ website

Christie Thomas’ Instagram

Christie Thomas’ Facebook

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

Thoughts To Make Your Heart Sing

 

Seasonal Products

Free Jesus Storybook Bible Advent Reading Plan & Bonus Printables

The Jesus Storybook Bible: A Christmas Collection

The Jesus Storybook Bible Advent Activity Book

Song of the Stars: A Christmas Story

Little One, We Knew You’d Come

My Little Library of God’s Great Love

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

164. Deep Learning and Deep Faith: Homeschool Mom Monica Swanson24 Oct 202400:11:18

At first, Monica Swanson wasn’t excited about the possibility of educating her kids at home. Sparked by her eldest son's request, Monica began to see the unique benefits of personalized education and how it has helped her sons flourish. She debunks some common myths about homeschoolers, and gives practical tips for parents considering this path. 

 

Quotes

“Over time as you homeschool, the confidence builds. As you see their character developing and you see their faith growing, you start to realize this is so much more than just scratching things off a list that they would get if they went to a traditional school. This was building something really beautiful in all of us.” - Monica Swanson

“My boys have really grown up with the ability to ask questions, dig in, and find the answers. I've seen my kids dig their roots even deeper, stand strong, and know what they believe because they had that time at home. They had the ability to really wrestle with things in their teenage years so that their faith was that much stronger when they went out into the world.” - Monica Swanson 

“As a homeschool mom, I think it kind of adds a special way of seeing God's love, because I get to see it in my children every day as they learn something new, as we overcome challenges and adversities, as we grow together, as I see those light bulb moments.” - Monica Swanson

“God's in everything and everywhere, but I think it's easy to miss if we're too hectic, too busy, too distracted. It's that choice to slow down for me, to open God's Word, to get my kids to take the time to start their day with God's Word and prayer. His love is everywhere.” - Monica Swanson

“I want to simply lead my children to Jesus. I want them to learn to sit at His feet, to understand His love for them and to just simply know that they're called to come to Jesus. Then as they grow up, as they develop more skills, as they understand God's Word, they'll be ready and equipped and prepared to go out into the world and make disciples.” - Monica Swanson

 

Guest’s Links
Monica Swanson’s website

Monica Swanson’s Facebook

Monica Swanson’s Instagram

Monica Swanson’s Twitter



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

76. Your Emotions Aren’t Too Much for God: Laura Smith16 Feb 202300:15:42

As she navigated an emotionally unstable childhood, Laura Smith decided she needed to earn love through perfection. Today an author and speaker, Laura shares how receiving a different kind of love in adulthood, along with immersing herself in the Psalms, taught her how to trust God and experience a love not determined by achievement, but by being exactly who we are.




Quotes

“I love Psalm 16 so much. This is someone who is terrified of something and they're saying, ‘I know you're going to give me joy. I know that you will give me what I need. I know you'll keep me secure, even though right now I am terrified.’ We don't have to be in the best of places, thank goodness, because God is.” - Laura Smith

“I can be loved for myself. Just because my father didn't love me in the way that I needed to be loved doesn't mean that other people can't or that God doesn't.” - Laura Smith

“We don't have to have it all together because God does.” - Laura Smith 

“I just think it's such a beautiful reminder to be content with where we are and what we have, and content with His love and His protection. Because when we sit in that, when we actually hang out with our good shepherds, then our souls truly can be restored.” - Laura Smith

 

Laura Smith’s Links

Laura Smith’s website

Laura Smith’s Facebook

Laura Smith’s Twitter

Laura Smith’s Instagram

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Psalm 16 NIV
Psalm 23 NIV



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

 

75. Finding Your Purpose, No Matter the Season: Dr. Dharius Daniels09 Feb 202300:11:13

Pastor and author Dr. Dharius Daniels believes we’ll find fulfillment when we find our purpose. Dr. Daniels shares how God places purpose in each chapter of our lives, so that can we can live with contentment in every role we play.



Quotes

“I try to help as many people as possible transform their life so that they can make some transformations in the world.” - Dr. Dharius Daniels

 

“I believe God has wrapped our fulfillment in purpose so that we will not find it in any other place but the place and space that He's called and created for us to occupy.” - Dr. Dharius Daniels

 

“Ultimately, your purpose is the compilation of the contributions you've made in the roles God’s called you to play in different seasons of your life.” - Dr. Dharius Daniels

 

“At different times, in different ways, God's reassures me that He is with me, and that He is committed to guiding and leading me to the place He wants to take me.” - Dr. Dharius Daniels

 

Guest’s Links
Dr. Daniels’ website

Dr. Daniels’ Facebook

Dr. Daniels’ Twitter

Dr. Daniels’ Instagram



Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Change Church



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

74. Choosing to Be Blessed, No Matter the Moment: Kyle Petty02 Feb 202300:13:02

Kyle Petty comes from one of NASCAR’s most legendary families, as one of four generations who have raced in the sport. But perhaps the more lasting legacy comes from Kyle’s grandmother, who showed him that even amid horrible loss, we have a choice: do we choose to stay mired in our pain, or do we try to move forward with new purpose?




Quotes

“On that day, [I had] two choices. I could choose to be bitter or I could choose to be blessed. And on that day, I chose to be blessed. I chose to be blessed to have a son for nineteen years.” - Kyle Petty

 

“Racing gave us a platform to raise our hand and say, ‘We're going to build a camp to help people and help kids.’ And that's what keeps camps going, the love of all these fans, the memory of Adam, and people just willing to help other people.” - Kyle Petty



Guest’s Links
Kyle Petty’s website

Kyle Petty’s Facebook

Kyle Petty’s Twitter

Kyle Petty’s Instagram



Resources Mentioned in This Episode
NBC

David Pearson  

Bobby Allison

Donnie Allison

Cale Yarborough

Buddy Baker

Bobby Isaac

Dale Earnhardt

Terry Labonte

Jimmie Johnson

Jeff Gordon 

Tony Stewart 

Kyle Busch

Paul Newman 

Michael Waltrip

Charity Ride Across America




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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

73. Saying ‘No’ Means Saying ‘Yes’ to More: Dr. Sasha Shillcutt26 Jan 202300:13:29

After years of stress and burnout, award-winning physician Dr. Sasha Shillcutt shares how a dedication to saying “no” revolutionized her life and put more joy in her days.




Quotes

“Many women struggle to set boundaries because they feel guilty, and they feel like they're going to be letting someone down. They would rather overextend themselves and live in constant burnout, which is unhealthy, so that they never have the feeling of guilt.” - Dr. Sasha Shillcutt

 

“I prayed and I asked God to help me. I said, ‘I don't know how I've gotten to this place where I feel so alone, and it's such a dark place. I am not living at all the life that I thought I was going to be living.’ And that very moment was a pretty pivotal moment.” - Dr. Sasha Shillcutt 

 

“I think I was so afraid of disappointing my family and work colleagues by saying no to things. But the truth of the matter is that I was actually able to show up more fully for the things that I said yes to when I started saying no routinely to more things.” - Dr. Sasha Shillcutt

 

“Jesus walked the earth as a human, and He set boundaries. So I need to do that too.” - Dr. Sasha Shillcutt



Guest’s Links
Dr. Shillcutt’s website

Dr. Shillcutt’s Facebook

Dr. Shillcutt’s Instagram

Dr. Shillcutt’s Twitter



Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Brave Boundaries by Dr. Sasha Shillcutt



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

72. A Song to Sing for All Eternity: Fernando Ortega19 Jan 202300:13:05

Time and again, songwriter Fernando Ortega has seen that art has the power to carry our strongest emotions—love, joy, grief—and connect us to others who may be feeling the same. Fernando shares how he discovered a love for writing contemporary hymns, how his craft helped him heal after suffering huge losses, and the joy of watching his words give meaning to the moments of others.


Quotes

“The process of writing, the challenge is always to take something that's your experience and then letting somebody take their own meaning from it, making it universal.” - Fernando Ortega


“The idea that there's a song that has been sung through all eternity is something that has become more and more real to me.” - Fernando Ortega 

 

The Jesus Storybook Bible came into my life, and I read that thing to Ruby every night when she was a little girl for years. The theology in it is so beautiful. As an adult, it just broke into some of the coldest parts of my heart. I would read it from cover to cover, and then we would just start again, and we did that for years.” - Fernando Ortega

 

Guest’s Links
Fernando Ortega’s website

Fernando Ortega’s Facebook

Fernando Ortega’s Instagram

Fernando Ortega’s Twitter



Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Give Me Jesus” by Fernando Ortega

“Mi Abuelito” by Fernando Ortega



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

71. The People and Places That Shape Us: Anne Snyder12 Jan 202300:12:34

As she navigated a season of loss in her twenties, author and podcaster Anne Snyder discovered the foundations that hold up our lives—our families, our workplaces, our churches and neighborhoods—can also hold us when we suffer and help us find meaning when we’re ready to move forward.

Quotes

“The crucial questions in life are not what questions: ‘What do I do?’ They’re who questions: ‘Who do I follow? Who do I serve? Who do I love?’ - Anne Snyder

“[Growing up] my family dinner table often revolved around this observation that all people are products of their culture. It felt like from as early as I can remember, it was a way of expressing curiosity and attunement to questions of how one's environmental conditions shape your way of seeing the world, shape your habits and your character. And I think that, no doubt, had a deep impact on the way in which I approach people today.” - Anne Snyder 

“I was interested in the pathways that form the will and the mind and the heart and soul of an individual, such that he or she will be equipped to navigate life in all of its complexity and sort of ups and downs with courage and hope.” - Anne Snyder 

“I have this deep hope I can't quite explain, that somehow God is always working in our suffering, that as reality seems to fracture and relationships break and countries shudder, and the earth on which we live is begging us to take better care of it—in all of this, somehow Christ is still present and still healing and walking with us and walking into the fray.” - Anne Snyder

 

Guest’s Links
Anne Snyder’s website

Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Comment Magazine

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

70. Being Salt and Light Outside Our Comfort Zone: Jodi Benson05 Jan 202300:15:23

Just when we’re getting comfortable, God shows up (in his impeccable timing!) to ask us to step toward something new and scary. That’s certainly been the case for Jodi Benson, the original voice of Disney’s The Little Mermaid. Jodi shares how her career soared to unexpected heights, and how she strives to be salt and light wherever she goes, even if it’s in the pages of a book she never expected to write.

 

Quotes

“God doesn't call us to be comfortable." - Jodi Benson 

I'm like, ‘God, this is just this is not me.’ And He's like, ‘You know what? I can do extraordinary things through ordinary people who obey me. And if you can walk in obedience in something that's terribly uncomfortable, then let me take it from there.’” - Jodi Benson 

“It's been incredible, the fact that I have total freedom to be able to just be myself, that I can love other people well, and be light and salt, and use every opportunity that God gives me and every platform opportunity that He gives me to the best of my ability.” - Jodi Benson

“The tough things we go through, we can use to comfort others with the same comfort that he gave us. That's when beauty comes from the ashes.” - Jodi Benson

“God called me to do something out of my comfort zone, and it's very frightening and very scary. But there is a sense of indescribable peace, knowing that I did what he asked me to do, even though I didn't want to. Then I get to step back and let God do what he's going to do.” - Jodi Benson

 

Guest’s Links

Jodi Benson’s Facebook

Jodi Benson’s Instagram

Jodi Benson’s Twitter



Resources Mentioned in This Episode

Part of My World by Jodi Benson

The Little Mermaid

The Walt Disney Company

Snow White

Sleeping Beauty

Cinderella

Thumbelina

Toy Story II

Toy Story III



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

69. Afraid? God Will Help You Do It Scared: Christy Wright29 Dec 202200:12:14

What do you do when God calls you from one story into another? For author and speaker Christy Wright, that meant walking into the workplace she’d poured herself into for 12 years and resigning to begin a new chapter. A chapter that, to Christy, looked like a terrifying blank page. But as she put one timid foot in front of the other, Christy began to see the path God was laying for her all along—one she never could’ve dreamed of on her own.

 

Quotes

“I felt God telling me that He was asking me to trust Him, that He was calling me into the unknown, similar to Abraham. And so He just kept taking me back to Scripture and showing me He's done this before.” - Christy Wright 

“We tend to think as Christians is that if you're scared, you don't trust God. But one of the things that I have learned is you can be trusting God with your actions and still feel fear in your emotions.” - Christy Wright

“We're all adult children. We're all walking around looking for something. And so much of how we can find intimacy with the Lord is through this story of His Bible.” - Christy Wright

“He is with us in the valleys, in the tunnels, when we're walking away from everything we've ever known, when we're overwhelmed with our kids, when we're just having to make a hard decision, He's with us. And while the decision is probably still hard and you might still feel that fear when you're doing that scary thing, the knowledge that God is with you can give you an inner peace and comfort that will follow it through anyway.” - Christy Wright

 

Guest’s Links
Christy’s Website

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Christy’s Facebook

Christy’s Twitter




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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

68. The Gift of Christmas: Storytime with Sally Lloyd-Jones22 Dec 202200:16:30

To celebrate the merriest week of the year, author Sally Lloyd-Jones is reading three special Christmas stories from The Jesus Storybook Bible, perfect to listen to with your family. Wherever you are this season, let your heart be filled with childlike wonder and as you remember the miracle of Love that came down as a tiny baby boy. Merry Christmas! 

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode
The Jesus Storybook Bible 


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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

67. A Love That Leads Us to Help Neighbors Heal: Duke Kwon15 Dec 202200:13:46

While living in one of Washington, DC’s most ethnically and economically diverse neighborhoods, pastor Duke Kwon began to see opportunities to make Jesus’ love incarnate. Using Jesus’ life as inspiration, Duke shares why he believes his mission is to bring restoration and healing to his community, and how Jesus’ love has the power not only to transform our neighbors, but especially to transform us.

Quotes

“It's a glorious and beautiful calling for us to actually embody and to become personal incarnations of the very love of Christ to this world.”
- Duke Kwon 

“Jesus moved into the neighborhood, as it were, by His own loving initiative, and that He laid it all down more than baking us cookies and just being kind to us. He loved us sacrificially. He died for our sins. He lived again by His resurrection to give us life. And the transforming power of that kind of love then should make us true neighbors ourselves when we encounter that Jesus.”
- Duke Kwon

“Reconciliation is simply the healing of ruptured love. It's love being repaired interpersonally in our relationships.”
- Duke Kwon 

“Christians should be the first ones to jump in line to undo the harms of our injury in a wound-filled past. Christians should be the ones that are the first on our knees to humble ourselves and repent and to love our neighbor as ourselves.”
- Duke Kwon

 

Duke Kwon’s Links
Duke Kwon’s Twitter

Duke Kwon’s Instagram

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Grace Meridian Hill Church

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

163. Connecting People to Hope: Christopher Beth17 Oct 202400:16:34

Before his current position, Christopher Beth, director of The Bucket Ministry, didn’t know what he didn’t know. Unaware of how severe the world’s water crisis is, and how many people are affected by a seemingly hopeless situation, his eyes were opened on a mission trip to the Amazon. Christopher felt moved to show love through tangible help and got involved in ways to provide clean, safe drinking water for those who need it—opening a door to hope and connection.

 

Quotes

“I thought I was just going to be chaperoning my child on this trip, but what happened on that trip changed me, because I got to see things I was not expecting. I saw people without hope.” - Christopher Beth  

“God [was] opening my heart and softening my heart. I learned just how big the problem is from the water side and from the spiritual side as well.” - Christopher Beth 

“I believe that is maybe some of the greatest illustrations of God's love—wanting His people to be healthier. I think because of His love, He has allowed me to see where He's working and He's allowed me to join in that work. I've gotten to see miracles happen firsthand.” - Christopher Beth 

“I know I can't be perfect, but if I show people how I live by trusting Him and obeying Him, I don't have to be perfect. If they see me doing good things, if they see me worshiping God, if they see me being righteous, they will know who He is through my actions.” - Christopher Beth

 

Guest’s Links
The Bucket Ministry

The Bucket Ministry Instagram

The Bucket Ministry Facebook

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

Joshua Project

REI 

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

66. A Faith That Seeks to Unite & Restore: Justin Giboney08 Dec 202200:12:28

Justin Giboney knows that people do their best work when they do it together—and he created his own civics organization to prove it. Justin shares how neighborhoods and faith communities who seek common ground can heal and restore the world. 

 

Quotes

“You may not get it perfect, but if you do your due diligence and you work with others and you're listening to others, you can have a profound impact on society and kind of work towards shalom.” - Justin Giboney

 

“It takes some courage and fortitude to do politics differently, to say, ‘Yeah, I may be a Republican, yeah, I may be a Democrat, but I'm a Christian first, and I'm committed to doing politics the right way.’” - Justin Giboney

“I was getting deeper into my faith, and I didn't want to be in politics in the same way that I saw a lot of people were. I wanted to take all my Christian convictions with me while having kind of a civic pluralism and respecting others’ beliefs.” - Justin Giboney

“Even as I do work to move forward with justice and advocate for justice, I'm not saving anybody. It’s God who's saving and rescuing us. And this is all under His plan. And we know the best part of His plan is when He comes back to rescue us.” - Justin Giboney

 

Justin Giboney’s Links
Justin Giboney’s Instagram

Justin Giboney’s Twitter



Resources Mentioned in This Episode
The AND Campaign



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

65. Celebrating Advent with Sally Lloyd-Jones and “Song of the Stars”01 Dec 202200:07:42

As we celebrate the arrival of the Christmas season, author Sally Lloyd-Jones reads her beloved picture book Song of the Stars and shares a special prayer: that we would not miss nor forget to celebrate the Rescuer who came into the world, who gives us light amid the cold, dark night.

*Want more ways to celebrate Advent with your family? Download the FREE Jesus Storybook Bible Advent Kit!

Quotes

“What a beautiful prayer to pray this Christmas: that we would not be looking the other way, that we wouldn't miss it, that we would see that God would be born into our lives again this Christmas, that we would not miss Him.” - Sally Lloyd-Jones

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

Song of the Stars by Sally Lloyd-Jones

The Jesus Storybook Bible by Sally Lloyd-Jones



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

64. You Don’t Have to Impress to Connect: Kendra Adachi24 Nov 202200:13:24

For many years, writer and self-proclaimed “Lazy Genius” Kendra Adachi struggled with the need to impress, even in the kitchen (after all, Kendra believed, the way we’re loved is through our achievements, right?). But over time, Kendra has learned a few things from her time at the table: you don’t have to impress to connect. Just bring what you have, because you are loved just as you are, no for what you do.

 

Quotes

“Eating together is just so deeply human, and it can be fun, it can be thoughtful. It's very disarming. And I just believe that the table is the most alive when it's welcoming.” - Kendra Adachi

 

“I want there to be a process that anybody can go through to love their kitchen, because it's such a beautiful room to experience, and there's so much good that comes out of it. And I want every person, whether they grow their own food or they only use their kitchen to make coffee, to enjoy being there.” - Kendra Adachi

 

“I could sense from my own experiences as someone around the table being fed, like, it makes people smile giving someone food that tastes good, that makes them feel welcome, it makes people feel seen and happy. And that is what the connective tissue was for me, where I was like, I want to help people feel this way.” - Kendra Adachi

 

“Jesus invites us to just share what we have. ‘Just be who you are. Bring Me what you have. And I'm going to make it enough.’” - Kendra Adachi




Kendra Adachi’s Links
Kendra’s website

Kendra’s Facebook

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
The Lazy Genius Kitchen

Rachael Ray



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

63. Giving Kids a Hope and a Future: Gabrielle Beam17 Nov 202200:10:22

Gabrielle Beam has made it her life’s mission to give children a hope and a future, and she does it through literacy. Gabrielle shares how helping children learn to read (using the Jesus Storybook Bible, no less!) helps them grow into adults who can flourish physically, mentally, and spiritually.

Quotes

“If a child is introduced to the love of God and the fact that they have been created in His image and that He has a plan for their lives, a plan to give them a future and a hope, I just love it.” - Gabrielle Beam

“By using the Bible for us as a primary primer, we get to actually tell them how loved they are in God and who they are and what they can hope for.” - Gabrielle Beam

“We use the Jesus Storybook Bible to teach [children], because, one, the illustrations are absolutely amazing. I mean, every child can find their image represented within the narratives of the story. And they feel included. And then the way that it is written, I mean, you can't even miss the love of God.” - Gabrielle Beam

 

Gabrielle Beam’s Links
Gabrielle Beam’s Facebook

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Rise to Read

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

62. Want Relationships to Flourish? Try Forgiveness: Tim Keller10 Nov 202200:18:57

“Forgiveness is when someone owes you a debt and, instead of making them pay the debt back, you absorb the debt,” says our guest, pastor and theologian Tim Keller. Tim shares why forgiveness is crucial to building and keeping relationships, and how daring to forgive brings the humility and empathy we need to restore the world.



Quotes

  • “The more I sense that I am a sinner forgiven by God, the easier it is to forgive other people. Why? Because I don't feel superior to them. It's very difficult to forgive somebody that you feel vastly superior to. And it's much easier to forgive somebody that you say, ‘Well, you know, I'm a lot like that myself.’” - Tim Keller
  • “If you don't know how to forgive, you stay bitter, frankly, and it can just poison your life.” - Tim Keller
  • “If you don't forgive in your heart, you actually won't be pursuing justice, you'll be pursuing vengeance. And they are not the same thing.” - Tim Keller
  • “Forgiveness is when someone owes you a debt and, instead of making them pay the debt back, you absorb the debt. No one deserves that, yet we cannot live without it. If you are a Christian, you know that your relationship with God is impossible unless God forgives you.” - Tim Keller

 

Tim Keller’s Links
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Tim Keller’s Twitter



Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Redeemer Presbyterian Church



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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

61. Even When It All Feels Uncertain, God Will Never Forget You: Emily Ley03 Nov 202200:12:16

When the winds of change begin to blow, and everything in our lives seems to be slipping through our fingers, entrepreneur and author Emily Ley reminds us to look at the sunrise. Because every morning, without fail, God will always bring up the sun—and He’ll always love you, too. 




Quotes

“Even when the rest of the world is changing really quickly, or we're really anxious or worried about other things, we don't have to be anxious or worried about that. Because God never forgets to bring the sun up, and He's not going to forget about us.” - Emily Ley

“There have been times in my life where God has taught me there's some things you can't do anything about and you just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other. You just have to keep waking up every morning remembering what's true and what's not true and keep going.” - Emily Ley

“He's truly showing us who He is. And it doesn't always mean that He's going to fix our problems right away. Sometimes He needs us to walk through them with Him. And then at the end, we can kind of see what He's been working in us.” - Emily Ley

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
The Simplified Podcast

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60. God Will Get You Through Your Darkest Hour: Michelle Hord27 Oct 202200:15:14

When TV executive Michelle Hord lost her seven-year-old daughter to an unspeakable tragedy, she didn’t know how she’d ever recover. In her darkest hour, Michelle was reminded of the story of Job, and that God was able to bring hope to a man who had once lost everything—and that, perhaps, she could find a shred of the same hope for herself, too.



Quotes

“We all deal with different types of loss and grief. And so I want to say, as my trauma therapist has often said to me, to borrow my confidence that the God that I have trusted and that has helped me on my faith walk is strong and sovereign and can do the same for you in whatever you're facing.” - Michelle Hord

 

“I went and found literally a little closet space and got on my knees on the floor and said, ‘God, I don't know what I'm about to walk into, but please just give me the strength to handle whatever it is.’” - Michelle Hord

 

“I never will believe God did this to my daughter. I believe there are evil forces in the universe. But what I know is that God can take what was made for evil and meant for evil and use it for good.” - Michelle Hord

 

“I saw early on that God was somehow creating these little miracles of light that I couldn't quite see at the time, but that were showing up for other people. And so I tried to stay focused on that.” - Michelle Hord



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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Gabrielle’s Wings

The Other Side of Yet by Michelle Hord

Job 13:15 NIV



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Celebrating God's Always & Forever Love for You25 Oct 202200:25:25

The Jesus Storybook Bible is turning 15 years old! To celebrate this special birthday, Sally steps back in time and leads us through the book’s creation—why she was inspired to write it, how Jago created the beautiful illustrations, the way Sir David Suchet brought the book to life on audio. We also hear from Rachel George, who shares the moving story that compelled her to launch her Room 423 Bibles ministry, which uses The Jesus Storybook Bible to bring God’s Never Stopping, Never Giving Up, Unbreaking, Always and Forever Love to countless families when they need it most.

59. Every Player Has a Role on God’s Team: Tony & Lauren Dungy20 Oct 202200:14:05

NFL broadcaster and Super Bowl champion coach Tony Dungy and his wife Lauren know that God designed every person to influence the world for good—no matter the size of their circle. Tony and Lauren share how, when they’ve found themselves in a role they didn’t feel ready for, God’s always helped them along the way.

Quotes

“God has roles for all of us. Some of them don't seem real important to us, but they really are in God's plan, and to use the talents and abilities God has given you. And if we all do that, we're going to have a better world.” - Tony Dungy

“We all have an influence in this world. We all have people that we help. And we may not think we do, but we do. So how can we use our position, use the places that God has put us, to point people to Christ and encourage people?” - Tony Dungy

“I knew that if I gave my best answer to this calling, that He would be honored.” - Lauren Dungy

“I think God gives everybody opportunities to use their platform, big or small, to influence others. It can be in your neighborhood, in your home, with your children, it can be in the community. But we all have gifts and talents. And what good would it be to keep those gifts to ourselves and not use them with other people?” - Lauren Dungy

“There are opportunities on all different levels.  And it involves sacrifice and it involves stepping out of your comfort zone. But if you're willing, God will make it able for you to do that.” - Lauren Dungy

“We have to be willing to take any role that God wants to give us. We're on the team and everyone wants to be the quarterback or everyone wants to be the wide receiver who's going to catch the winning touchdown pass. But there's more to being on the team than that. Jonah didn't want to do the job that God gave him, but it was an important job. And so he learned a lesson that, If we're going to have a great team, I've got to do the job that God asked me to do.” - Tony Dungy

 

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58. There’s Purpose in Your Pain: Rebekah Lyons13 Oct 202200:11:23

Time and again, author and speaker Rebekah Lyons has seen that unexpected, painful situations can throw us into a tailspin—but they don’t have to. In fact, they can even lead us to our true purpose: helping others shoulder the same struggles we carry, too.

 

Quotes

“My job is to help people uncover what's already there, versus thinking that calling is this abstract thing that floats down from the sky and lands on your head.” —Rebekah Lyons

“That nearness of God in that season brought the Holy Spirit to bear in my life in exponential ways I'd never really encountered in church, just the nearness of lament, honestly, and the nearness of dependency and surrender.” —Rebekah Lyons

“If a crisis in your life gives you meaning beyond yourself, all of a sudden, there's a joy.” —Rebekah Lyons

“It's the remaining in His love that helps us keep knowing His love.” —Rebekah Lyons

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl

Rhythms of Renewal by Rebekah Lyons

 

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162. God Will Give You Strength In The Storms: Jay Hewitt10 Oct 202400:14:55

Jay Hewitt is a pastor, author, and motivational speaker. At the age of thirty-seven, he was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, but despite the prognosis, he drew strength from his faith in God and embraced his calling as a storyteller—sharing his remarkable journey of striving to participate in the Ironman Triathlon while fighting cancer. Together with his wife and daughter, he continues to inspire others with his resilience, unwavering faith, and empowering messages, reminding us of the limitless strength we possess.

 

Quotes

“I've always used story as a driving force in my preaching and as a storyteller. God has given me a pretty remarkable story to tell.” - Jay Hewitt

“All of these waves of life were just crashing all around me, and Jesus spoke to my soul and said, ‘Be still.’ And it obeyed him, and the grace that that was for me was unbelievable.” - Jay Hewitt

“I now move forward in life knowing whatever I face—because I still have a terminal disease, there are still so many scary things that I'm facing—I know that if God is with me and if He's displaying His strength through my weakness, I can still accomplish the callings that He has put on my life.” - Jay Hewitt

“Every time that I prayed for God to give me strength and to help me, He sent me one of His people. Now when I'm really struggling and I pray the one word prayer, ‘Help,’ I look around to see who God is sending to help me. I also hope that God will use me and will send me to help others.” - Jay Hewitt

“I am strong because I want to help people learn to not only bear others' burdens, but to allow people to bear their burdens, to find a way to admit how weak they are so that they can become strong. Not only will they experience God's strength, they'll also experience God's love.” - Jay Hewitt

“God's going to put dreams in your heart and a calling on your life. Do not be surprised when the enemy tries to steal those dreams and calling and kill your faith. Hold on to the hope of Jesus in His power. Get up, stay strong, and press on. I promise you, you will experience and see that nothing is impossible for God.” - Jay Hewitt

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Dunkin’ Donuts

Ironman Triathlon

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

57. Finding Comfort in Stories (and Who God Says We Are): Sarah Clarkson06 Oct 202200:11:29

When she was diagnosed with OCD as a teen, writer Sarah Clarkson found comfort as she immersed herself in stories, realizing that God’s goodness could pierce through her mental darkness with small acts of ordinary beauty.

 

Quotes

“I think stories of imagination help us to, in a sense, follow the path in the world that God has created and set up for us.” —Sarah Clarkson

“I really believe that God created us for beauty and for goodness, and that He is breaking in again and again into our darkness in these moments of beauty, in the beauty of His world, calling us back to a vision for who we were meant to be and what He is redeeming us to.” —Sarah Clarkson

“I’m blown away by the power of reading to shape our view of the world, to understand ourselves, to see us ourselves as agents or heroes, in the sense of having power to affect the narratives in which we are placed in our own lives.” —Sarah Clarkson

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder

The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkein

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

[ANNOUNCING] “Known” by Sally Lloyd-Jones04 Oct 202200:05:32

Psalm 139 reminds us that God will always love us, no matter what. To celebrate that truth, Sally’s reading from her brand-new children’s book Known (illustrated by Jago!), which reminds little ones that God sees them, knows them, and loves them with a Never-stopping, Never-Giving-Up, Unbreaking, Always and Forever love. 


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56. God’s Light Shines Brighter Than Our Problems: Amy Kavelaris29 Sep 202200:09:15

Artist Amy Kavelaris spends her days sharing beauty and light, and over the years, she’s noticed that God’s light has a beautiful effect on our lives, too. He promises to carry us and show us the way through hard times with His light. And it’s always available to us—all we need to do is seek it to find it.

 

Quotes

“How awesome to know that no matter how sad or dark our days might be, God's light shines brighter because He's always bigger than our problems.” —Amy Kavelaris

“Not only does God carry us, but we can also find God's promises and His affirmations in creation all around us every day.” —Amy Kavelaris

“Absolutely nothing on earth affirms me in the way that the breath of God in His Word does.” —Amy Kavelaris

“When we fall on hard times, we are able to stand firm on God's promises and we won't have to waver because we'll be so firm in our faith.” —Amy Kavelaris

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Isaiah 46:4

2 Timothy 1:7

Zephaniah 3

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

55. When You Struggle, God Provides Streams in the Desert: Andrew Osenga22 Sep 202200:10:24

When the framework of your world disintegrates, remaining joyful feels nearly impossible. Musician and songwriter Andrew Osenga had a “streams in the desert” moment when he lost his job and struggled to provide for his wife and three kids. But through that season, Andrew discovered God provides “headwaters” in unlikely places, and can restore joy to even the parched parts of our lives.

 

Quotes

“The gospel is about keeping us in relationship with God, in a life that is full of flourishing and that is adventurous and that is just freely giving to one another in a way that the world looks at and goes, ‘What are they doing?’” —Andrew Osenga 

I think that's one of the greatest challenges of being a Christian, is this desire to control the things that we're afraid of. Because we are afraid of being alone, we're afraid of being sad. We carry a lot of fear, and we attach fear to our faith in ways that we don't always understand.” —Andrew Osenga 

“I had a lot of people just kind of carry me, and it helped me sort of rediscover who God had made me to be. And it just ended up being a really beautiful season.” —Andrew Osenga 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
The Painted Desert record

Integrity Podcast 

Psalm 23 NIV

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

54. Prayer Is a Lifeline to His Love: Tish Harrison Warren15 Sep 202200:13:09

Writer and Anglican priest Tish Harrison Warren says prayer matters—even when it seems like God isn’t listening. Tish shares the hard season that pushed her into a new perspective on prayer: that we don’t pray to change our circumstances. We pray because it brings us into a closer relationship with God. We pray because it changes us.

 

Quotes

“Christianity is not a performance. It's union with God.”  —Tish Harrison Warren

“Oftentimes, God feels so wild and mysterious and big, and I feel so small that I kind of don't know where to start with prayer—which I didn't really feel when I was younger. So I think God has gotten maybe bigger and more mysterious to me. But I think that might be part of Christian maturity.” —Tish Harrison Warren

“I didn't know how to trust God. I didn't know how to talk to God, and I didn't know where to start. And so in the midst of that, the prayers of the church became sort of a lifeline for me.”  —Tish Harrison Warren

“We are asked by God to pray for the things we feel we need and the things we want. And even in the person of God himself, in Christ, we see that God allows deep suffering in our life. And so holding that together is difficult.” —Tish Harrison Warren

“I think prayer is about entering into the presence of God.” —Tish Harrison Warren

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Liturgy of the Ordinary by Tish Harrison Warren

Prayer in the Night by Tish Harrison Warren 

The New York Times 

Christianity Today

 

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53. God Can Meet You in the Ordinary: Jen Pollock Michel08 Sep 202200:11:05

Usually, faith doesn’t feel like fireworks or a mountaintop moment. Most of the time, faith is—as our guest, writer Jen Pollock Michel says—as ordinary as lacing up your running shoes. Jen shares why thinking of your spiritual walk as a daily habit instead of a to-do list removes so much pressure, and why cultivating relationships brings more reward than a checkmark ever could.

 

Quotes

“Faith is as ordinary as just lacing up your shoes. And there can be years that you lace up your shoes and you're not even sure what race you're running. But some days you do put your feet down and you're like, ‘Nope, I know what this is all about.’” —Jen Pollock Michel 

“I think it's encouraging for the believer to think about faith as a habit.”  —Jen Pollock Michel 

“It's so often confused that faith is always a mountaintop experience, that somehow you must be doing it wrong if you don't feel it. Faith itself is a habit. It has to be nurtured by regular, consistent, daily efforts and practices. And it’s okay if you don't always feel like doing it. It's okay if you don't always see its immediate benefit or reward.” —Jen Pollock Michel 

“God asks us to be faithful to our work, and work means deadlines and responsibilities. But I think we can do those in a spirit of trust, not a spirit of hurry, and certainly not a spirit of worry.” —Jen Pollock Michel

 

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In Good Time by Jen Pollock Michel

 

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*Episode produced by Four Eyes Media*

52. God Does Beautiful Work in Every Tribe, Tongue, & Nation: Dr. Esau McCaulley01 Sep 202200:12:31

When so much divides us, Dr. Esau McCaulley has found there’s one thing that remains true: God can do His best work in any place, in any time, in any culture. Dr. McCaulley has traveled across the world with his wife Mandy, a pediatrician and Navy reservist. And no matter where he’s gone, Dr. McCaulley has seen God show up with His Never-Stopping, Never-Giving-Up, Unbreaking, Always and Forever Love in every single corner of the globe.

 

Quotes

“God made us each different and unique on purpose. And He is glorified through a bunch of different people who are together in the worship of Him as Lord and Savior.” —Dr. Esau McCaulley

“One of the things that has been a tremendous encouragement to me is that across all regions of the country and even different parts of the world, there's something about followers of Jesus: we recognize one another. In other words, the Jesus who I worship is not different from the Jesus who is worshiped in Japan or in Scotland. I've been encouraged by the universal fellowship that exists across cultures.” —Dr. Esau McCaulley

“I'm appreciative of the global church and the ways in which we worship the same Jesus across time and across culture. Everywhere you go, you see the work of Christ in individual lives and it's beautiful.” —Dr. Esau McCaulley

“I see how in each one of those places, God was using that location to teach me something about Himself and about His people.” —Dr. Esau McCaulley, on his global travels

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Wheaton College

Sharing in the Son’s Inheritance by Esau McCaulley

Reading While Black by Esau McCaulley

Josey Johnson's Hair and the Holy Spirit by Esau McCaulley

 

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51. God Uses Broken Stories for His Healing Work: Holly Hayes25 Aug 202200:11:29

God can find you anywhere—even on the bathroom floor. That’s what Holly Hayes discovered in her lowest moment. Holly’s the founder of Sanctuary Project, a social enterprise where survivors of human trafficking earn meaningful employment by make beautiful jewelry. As a survivor herself, Holly uses her story to tell others that God isn’t interested in “perfect.” He uses the sick, the lonely, and the broken to do good work in the world.

Quotes

“What I see in scripture is a Jesus who empowered women.” —Holly Hayes

“The religious men were the ones that Jesus was saying, ‘Nope, you have it all wrong.’ The widow, the poor, the lost, the broken, the lonely, those were the ones that God seemed to use the most. Not only am I loved by God, rescued by God, saved by God, but also, He wants to use me. —Holly Hayes

“Community is where we can reflect God's love and mercy to each other, to help each other to feel safe, to just say, ‘Help’ or ‘I'm hurting’ or ‘I'm joyful.’ We can honest about about how we are and where we are.” —Holly Hayes

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50. God’s Kind of Funny (And He Can Take Your Messy Moments): Susan Isaacs18 Aug 202200:13:58

We don’t give God enough credit, comedian Susan Isaacs says. He can take the moments when we’re confused or upset—even at him—because he loves us even when we’re “unlovable.” Susan shares when she discovered that her “God with a posh British accent” wasn’t out to get her. In fact, He was her soft place to land (and could even share a joke or two).

 

Quotes

“God made us fully human. I think of the ways that God surprises me, that kind of plays jokes on me, and surprises me and makes me laugh. If it's part of us, it's also part of God because we're made in His image.” —Susan Isaacs

“I was done keeping my spiritual life from the rest of my life, I'm like, ‘This is what's happening, and I'm done trying to please two sides of the fence. I'm just going to be honest.’ And that's when things really started to move in my life personally, professionally, spiritually. And it's funny, I really felt like God's like, ‘There she is. That's my girl.’” —Susan Isaacs

“I think we don't give God enough credit, and we don't trust Him enough to be completely honest, that ‘If I go to the depths, You are there. There's no place that's too dark for You.’” —Susan Isaacs

 

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Stephen Colbert

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49. When You Lose Everything, God’s Still There: Mattie Jackson Selecman11 Aug 202200:14:41

Married for eleven months, writer Mattie Jackson Selecman lost her 28-year-old husband Ben to a tragic accident in 2018. As she grieved her husband and their future together, Mattie began to feel God’s presence far more than she ever had—in the moments of desperation and in the small, quiet moments too.

 

Quotes

“I've learned, now more than ever, we all experienced loss in every way, you know? And so to go through all of this and see it already impact people is pretty powerful.”
—Mattie Jackson Selecman 

“Prayer became less about the words I said to God and more about taking time to sit in His presence and let Him make me feel safe.”
—Mattie Jackson Selecman

“When we grieve someone or something that is a special and intimate part of our life, I think at least for me, I wanted that process of grief to be as fast as possible because I wanted to feel better.”
—Mattie Jackson Selecman

“When I lost Ben and I was so broken and so desperate, I got to know Jesus as the “sit beside me” best friend—not just as the One who died for me, who's waiting for me in heaven, but the one who can enter into every moment of my pain and bring peace that transcends understanding.”
—Mattie Jackson Selecman

 

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161. We All Have Opportunities to Change the World: Tim Ross03 Oct 202400:13:15

Raised in a family deeply rooted in ministry, Tim Ross's path to preaching and leadership was not a part of his own plans, but unfolded naturally through deep searching and examination of his convictions. Through his podcast, speaking engagements, and writing, Tim speaks to the power of small acts of kindness in changing lives and reflects on the true measure of success—finding the peace that passes all understanding.  

 

Quotes

“I like to remind people that we can all change the world around us.” - Tim Ross 

“We have an opportunity on a daily basis—our proximity to our neighbors, to our family, and our friends gives us the opportunity to really identify what a person needs. Just being prompted by the Holy Spirit and genuine acts of kindness, [we can] meet those needs in a way that allows them to receive and to feel God's love.” - Tim Ross

“Jesus is literally taking off glory and putting on humanity so that He can dwell among us. He goes on to say, ‘If you're going to be the greatest, you will be the servant of all.’ So, the reward for reaching the top in the Kingdom of God, according to Jesus, is that you get to serve everybody.” - Tim Ross

“It's very important for us to remember God's love for us on a day-to-day basis, because it orients how we navigate through our days, and ultimately, through our lives.” - Tim Ross 

“When we carry that recognition of God's love every day, what we realize is we're not trying to perform for His love, we're performing because we are loved. That shift changes the way that we see ourselves and others.” - Tim Ross

 

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LAPD

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Ace Hardware

Matthew 3

 

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48. To Diffuse Anger & Hate, Try Gentleness: Scott Sauls04 Aug 202200:11:19

To diffuse the anger simmering in our world, pastor Scott Sauls reminds us there’s another solution: gentleness. Scott shares why giving a kind and gentle answer in the face of hurt and hostility, even when it’s hard, leads to greater compassion.

 

Quotes

“When we're able to see people rightly, when we're able to discern that there is hurt beneath sinful behavior or there is hurt beneath suffering, that tends to lead toward a greater compassion. And with greater compassion comes greater gentleness.” —Scott Sauls

I am drawn toward gentleness in people, in communities, and in society, wherever it can be found.” —Scott Sauls

[God’s] love can't change. It can't change because it's been fixed and it's been secured by what Christ has done in His death and His burial and His resurrection.” —Scott Sauls

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Christ Presbyterian Church

A Gentle Answer by Scott Sauls

Proverbs 15:1 NIV

 

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47. Jesus Made Pain a Portal Back to Him: KJ Ramsey28 Jul 202200:15:34

Does God hear us when we hurt? As she’s walked through pain from an autoimmune disease and an abusive church experience, author and trauma therapist KJ Ramsey has discovered she meets Jesus in her story not in spite of her suffering, but because of it.

 

Quotes

“The suffering in our stories becomes a place where we get to encounter God—God Himself. Jesus made pain into a portal, and when I can sit down trying to find the purpose in my pain, I get to step through that portal again and again.” —KJ Ramsey

“My faith has ebbed and flowed and grown and changed so much over the years and will continue to.” —KJ Ramsey

“I've actually experienced Jesus come near to me and show me His own broken heart and broken body and it's been a process of getting to see Jesus again and again. It's not that my faith was small and then grew seeing Jesus once, but that every time that my heart is broken again, Jesus shows me His again, too.” —KJ Ramsey

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
The Lord is My Courage: Stepping Through the Shadows of Fear Toward the Voice of Love by KJ Ramsey

 

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46. Practicing Peace Right Where You Are: Morgan Harper Nichols21 Jul 202200:11:45

We all want more peace, but is it possible to find peace right where we are? Digital artist and bestselling author Morgan Harper Nichols thinks so. Morgan shares how, in the midst of a world filled with overwhelm, peace is available to us no matter where the day leads us—all we have to do is take the time to practice it.

 

Quotes

“Community and connection was always something I was craving and desiring and praying for. And at the same time, it often felt far away. One of the few things I have truly felt like God gave me as a gift was art and creativity, because throughout my life, there has been an opportunity to [use it to] connect with other people.” —Morgan Harper Nichols

“It's possible to encounter peace right here where we are, amid everything that's going on. And it's something that we can practice.” —Morgan Harper Nichols

“A peaceful place doesn't have to be a perfect place out in our most ideal location, our ideal scenario. It's that peaceful presence in grace that is available to us everywhere.” —Morgan Harper Nichols

 

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Peace is a Practice by Morgan Harper Nichols

 

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45. Bring God into Focus with a New Lens: Katie Haseltine14 Jul 202200:11:30

Sometimes our relationship with God feels like looking through a foggy window. We can just make out a figure in the distance, but it feels just that: distant. Sometimes it takes a different lens to see a bit more clearly. As a spiritual director, Katie Haseltine offers that new lens to her clients. She shares how her own perspective of God was transformed when she began to notice her feelings and how they affected her view of God—and how much more connected to Him she felt when she realized He could hold all of those feelings for her.

 

Quotes

“It's so interesting for me to unpack with people their different interpretations of Jesus and religion, and what I've found is Jesus is so much more inviting and welcoming to them than they ever knew.” —Katie Haseltine

“A relationship with God is made up of your thoughts and feelings. And so if you're not exploring those, if you're not offering those to God, if you're not giving those to God, then you might not really be knowing God or having a relationship in that way.” —Katie Haseltine


“I really had nowhere to go because my theology at the time didn't allow for mess or mistake or gray or uncertainty or not knowing what was coming. And so for me, there really was this desperation to experience something more than words on a page and ideas and thoughts.” —Katie Haseltine

“As I grew in self-awareness, what I realized is how I have to know who I am in order to know God. . . . That self-awareness is so important to be able to go to Jesus with your anger, with your fear, with your shame, with your guilt, with your joy, with your hope, with your desires, and be with Him.” —Katie Haseltine

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
St. Ignatius

Prayer of Examen

 

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44. Be a Lighthouse Who Shows Others the Way: Steve Pemberton07 Jul 202200:11:25

When author Steve Pemberton was growing up, he suddenly found himself in the foster care system after his mother, who struggled with alcoholism, was unable to care for him. When all seemed dark, different adults shone a light for Steve along his journey to adulthood, and today he endeavors to be that same “lighthouse” by helping others with what he has to give.

Quotes

“I often get asked, ‘Well, who was the person who helped transform your life?’ And it's hard for me to point to that individual and say that there was that one person because it really wasn't. It was more the love of language and words and all that accompanied it.” —Steve Pemberton

“I think there's something instructive for all of us in recognizing that each day any of us can be a lighthouse to someone and we can also find one for ourselves.” —Steve Pemberton

“We can almost certainly touch and impact somebody else's life. I'm a really good example of what happens when you do.” —Steve Pemberton

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
A Chance in the World by Steve Pemberton

The Lighthouse Effect by Steve Pemberton

Work Human

Encyclopedia Brown 

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43. Removing the Sting of Shame from Our Brokenness: Dr. Judy Cha30 Jun 202200:13:38

Therapist Dr. Judy Cha knows that God’s love can transform lives. As the director of Redeemer Counseling Services in New York City, she’s seen that when people can be present with their pain without judgment for what they’re feeling, they can put aside the shackles of shame to become a vessel for God’s goodness in ways they could’ve never imagined.

 

Quotes

“My relationship with God has definitely changed how I see people. No, they're not just objects of my curiosity. People are His most prized possession, His lost treasure He came to reclaim. So people are precious, highly regarded across all races, gender, socioeconomic status.” —Dr. Judy Cha

“Sin didn't just affect the human heart. It affected everything in creation. So we live in a broken world with broken people.” —Dr. Judy Cha

“By being attentive, by being present without judgment over and over again, this becomes a corrective experience for our clients. And it shifts the way that they see themselves, that they are valued, accepted, and loved, and they see us as loving, kind, and accepting people.” —Dr. Judy Cha

“How we experience other people is highly correlated to how we experience God. So in order to change the way that they relate to God, people need these relational experiences that are different from their history that reflect and represent who God is.” —Dr. Judy Cha

“We can find rest because we know that He is with us and He loves us and we can reach a place of peace.” —Dr. Judy Cha

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Redeemer Counseling Services

Westminster Theological Seminary

1 Corinthians 13:1–2 NIV

 

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42. The Adventure of Showing Up and Saying “Yes” – Shane & Shane23 Jun 202200:11:56

When musical duo Shane & Shane first met in college, they never anticipated playing music professionally. But God works in mysterious ways, and as they’ve built a career and a ministry, they’ve learned that by showing up and saying “yes,” God has taken them on more adventures and touched more lives than they could’ve dreamed of.

 

Quotes

“I feel like the Lord is always talking and speaking through us, through His spirit, His people, His creation.” —Shane Barnard

“There's a lot of faith in just walking into a space, picking up a pen, picking up an instrument, and just going, ‘Lord, I'm just going to come and show up, and I'm just going to hope that the things and the thoughts that are about as high as the heavens are above the Earth, that they're going to be there waiting for me. So I'm just going to show up.’” —Shane Barnard

“There's no greater joy that we could ever have than to share this gospel story of redemption that's woven through scripture with the world in song.” —Shane Barnard

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Texas A&M University

Psalms NIV

Colossians 3:16 NIV

 

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41. Justice Looks Like Love: Cece Jones-Davis16 Jun 202200:13:37

When Cece Jones-Davis watched a documentary about a Black man and fellow Oklahoman who had been imprisoned for a crime he likely didn’t commit, she decided to act on faith and her love of justice to do something about it. A Yale-educated minister and justice advocate, Cece shares her convoluted journey through the US justice system, and how God can use what you love—and also what breaks your heart—to do His good in the world.

 

Quotes

“Justice, for me, is about making things right. It's important for people to remember or realize that this is a requirement for people of faith.” —Cece Jones-Davis

“Justice work shows you very quickly how injust the world is around us, how many people are suffering, how inhumane we can be to one another, how broken. A lot of our systems are. But because I have a faith center, I always have something to draw from.” —Cece Jones-Davis

“I honestly give God the glory and the honor and the praise for showing up so incredibly strong in the hearts and the minds of people.” —Cece Jones-Davis

“God is incredibly real, and people are stronger than systems when we come together, when we believe in a thing. When we commit ourselves to doing what is right, there is very little that can stop us.” —Cece Jones-Davis

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Julius Jones

The Last Defense documentary

 

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40. God Can Use Every Person for Good: Rachael Prescott09 Jun 202200:13:14

Nearly five years ago Rachael Prescott, already expecting a surprise set of twins, learned more news about the babies she was carrying: they’d be born with Down Syndrome. Rachael, the mom behind the popular @doublingdownmom Instagram account, shares how her girls have taught her how beautiful the world can be when we create space for everyone to thrive, and how God can use every single person for His good.



Quotes
“It just gives me that warm feeling to think that God is going to use my daughters and other people with Down Syndrome in this world in ways that are going to be pivotal to sharing His goodness, His glory.” —Rachael Prescott

“We tend to be afraid of things that we don't know or understand. And pair that ignorance and fear joining up together that are really just stripping us of a huge community of joy, ultimately, that I think brings light to our world in a way that it would be a dimmer place without these people.” —Rachael Prescott

We need to purposefully set into spaces and make them inclusive, and sit in the discomfort of what we don't understand long enough to build relationships with people who are different than us.” —Rachael Prescott

 

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Down Syndrome

 

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39. Taking the Leap, Trusting God Will Catch You: Andres Quintero02 Jun 202200:14:08

It takes courage to take a big leap and trust that God’s got you. Andres Quintero’s spent his whole life trusting God to catch him: after he moved from Colombia to the US, when he switched his career from architect to handbag designer, to switching the way his whole business ran during the pandemic. And amid the fear, Andres has seen God work every single thing out for good.

 

Quotes

“We always dreamt of these shiny and beautiful goods, manufacturing them in Colombia and also being able to show them to the rest of the world. Faith played a big role in that decision [to move forward] and we prayed about it, knowing that God is in control, He's sovereign.” —Andres Quintero

“The beautiful thing is that suffering and pain, we tend to avoid them at any chance. But God uses pain as a way to reconnect with Jesus. It’s an opportunity to say, ‘God, Your will be done. We trust in You.’ And man, that is an opportunity for growth and to know Him at a different level.” —Andres Quintero

“We believe that God uses aesthetic to show part of His nature, that He's a beautiful God and He's awesome, and He cares for all colors and proportions.” —Andres Quintero

 

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Andres' company, Min And Mon

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160. Holding Sorrow and Joy Together: Gabe and Keely Scott26 Sep 202400:13:33

When musician and restaurant owner Gabe Scott unexpectedly contracted a brain infection, he and his wife Keely knew they’d have a long road back to their normal lives. But what they didn’t anticipate was his continued memory loss, and how their story would become both beautiful and hard at the same time, even as they put the worst behind them. The Scotts share how they’ve learned to hold sorrow and joy together, and how to find happiness in the smallest of victories. 

 

Quotes

“My prayers were just give me a date to just expect [Gabe’s memory loss] to be gone. We quickly learned once we got home and were in those first few months of recovery, that was not going to be what our future looked like. It's really unpredictable, which has been the hardest—and the most beautiful thing—to live in the moment.” - Keely Scott

“We live with both a beautiful story and a hard story at the same time. It was such a freeing moment for both of us to still carry the sadness, but to recognize the beauty and who we've become.” - Keely Scott

“Our job is to continually keep sowing and digging in hope and in perseverance, knowing that what Jesus said is true. And that along the way, we keep finding treasures of His love and friendship. And we're just digging in hope.” - Keely Scott

 

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Keely Scott’s Facebook

 

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

Compassion International

Ladybird Taco

Andrew Peterson

Andy Gullahorn

 

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38. Looking for Your Purpose? Try Helping Others: Lt. Col. Dan Rooney26 May 202200:10:47

If you’re looking for fulfillment, look no further than serving someone else. Air Force fighter pilot Lt. Colonel Dan Rooney has seen that time and again in his life. Lt Colonel Rooney shares the inspiration behind his nonprofit organization Folds of Honor, which provides for the families of fallen and disabled soldiers, and reminds us why service helps us just as much as it helps someone else.

Quotes

“I felt the Holy Spirit on my shoulder in that moment, and He gave me a calling that night that I certainly wasn't prepared for. But one of my anthems for my whole life has been go before you're ready.” —Lt. Col Dan Rooney

“Every day my first prayer [when] my feet hit the ground in the morning is to ignore myself and listen to what Jesus wants me to do on this given day and to fill me with the passion and energy to do it.” —Lt. Col Dan Rooney

“For me, it boils down to this beautiful irony that when you are helping someone else, you're actually the one being helped. I know in my heart that's why God created us.” —Lt. Col Dan Rooney

“If you're looking for fulfillment, if you don't feel like your life is where it should be, look to helping other people. It's extraordinary.” —Lt. Col Dan Rooney

 

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Folds of Honor

 

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37. There’s Always Beauty, Even in the Dark Places: Ruth Naomi Floyd19 May 202200:11:47

Every human being is a creator, whether they’re creating a beautiful work of art or cultivating kindness in someone’s life. That’s what jazz vocalist and composer Ruth Naomi Floyd has found to be true. Ruth shares all the ways she sees God creating beauty in our lives, even in the darkest of places, and how we can find it when we just allow ourselves to look.

 

Quotes

“God is the first and greatest artist. He created out of nothing. And every single human being is made in His image. We are a reflection of His beauty. We are made in His image.’” —Ruth Naomi Floyd

“Every human being is worthy of dignity as image bearers of God.”  —Ruth Naomi Floyd

“Every human being is a creative. Acts of kindness are creative. Inviting a stranger to your table to feast upon food you have made with your own hands is a powerful and creative act. It's in that artistic giving and receiving that is important.”  —Ruth Naomi Floyd

The Jesus Storybook Bible says that every story whispers His name. All of the beauty of the world whispers His name too.”  —Ruth Naomi Floyd

 

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Frederick Douglass

 

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36. God’s Blueprint for His Church Has Many Colors & Cultures: Dr. Derwin Gray12 May 202200:14:27

We live in a deeply divided world—but that’s not the blueprint God handed to us. Pastor, author, and former NFL player Dr. Derwin Gray shares how long ago, as far back as Abraham, God has been showing us the kind of community he wants for us: one filled with all ages, races, and cultures because we are more beautiful and stronger together.

 

Quotes

“Jesus of Nazareth created this community where Jews and Gentiles of all sorts were all of a sudden we're saying, ‘Jesus is Lord. And you're no longer my enemy. You're my brother, you're my sister, you're my family. And we have oneness in Christ.’” —Derwin Gray

“It takes a lot of security in Christ to have meaningful conversations with Jesus to bring us together, to not tear us apart.” —Derwin Gray

“We learn to listen. We learn to love and we learn to leverage our lives for each other. There is no greater love than this, then those who are willing to lay down their lives for their brothers and sisters. To heal the racial divide, it's going to require people who are serious about the gospel and who are serious about love.” —Derwin Gray

 

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Transformation Church

How to Heal Our Racial Divide by Derwin Gray

Steve Grant

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