In this week's loop I talk about how AI, leadership, and workplace innovation all connect. I explain that AI tools can be helpful, but the real challenge is building strong leadership, because that’s what actually drives meaningful change in an organization. I share five stories that show how HR is starting to focus more on developing leaders, why workplace innovation matters, the hurdles companies face when adopting AI, and the rising issue of employee burnout. In the end, my main point is that if organizations want better productivity and more engaged employees, they need to invest in their leaders.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to The Human Loop and AI in Leadership

00:59 Workplace Innovation: The Role of Leadership

03:24 Leadership Development: A New Priority for HR

05:45 The AI Silicon Ceiling: Bridging the Gap

07:43 CEOs and Social Media: A Strategic Retreat

09:39 The Burnout Engagement Paradox

12:27 Conclusion: Leadership as the Bottleneck

Studies Mentioned:

Story 1: Workplace Innovation

Story 2: Leadership Development #1 Priority

Story 3: The AI Silicon Ceiling

Story 4: CEOs Going Quiet

Story 5: Burnout-Engagement Paradox

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In this episode of the Human Loop I sit down with Mizan Rahman, co-founder of Emerge IQ and an OG of the Ai space.

We discuss the evolution of AI, the importance of human synthesis in technology, and the ethical considerations surrounding AI's role in society.

Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction to AI and Human Performance

02:30 - Exploring Human Synthesis in AI

12:38 - The Ethics of AI and Human Interaction

21:53 - AI's Impact on Leadership and Organizational Change

43:08 - Empowering Organizations through the Human Loop

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In this weekly loop I discuss the latest research and trends in human performance, AI integration in business, employee engagement, and the challenges of burnout.

We highlight the significant use of AI in organizations, the concerning decline in employee engagement, and the critical need for effective communication and support for managers and employees to combat burnout and enhance productivity.

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Chapters:

00:00 The Rise of AI in Business

02:47 Employee Engagement Trends

06:07 The Burnout Crisis

08:55 AI Training and HR Integration

11:48 Leadership and AI Strategy Disconnect

15:02 Key Takeaways and Future Focus

Studies Mentioned:

Story 1: The AI Value Gap

"The State of AI 2025: Agents, innovation, and transformation"

Source: McKinsey & Company

URL: https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/quantumblack/our-insights/the-state-of-ai

Story 2: Manager Engagement Crisis

"State of the Global Workplace 2025"

Source: Gallup

URL: https://www.gallup.com/workplace/state-of-global-workplace

Story 3: Burnout at All-Time High

"Workforce Trends 2026: Leaders Confront Burnout, Disengagement, and AI-Driven Change"

Source: DHR Global

URL: https://huntscanlon.com/workforce-trends-2026-leaders-confront-burnout-disengagement-and-ai-driven-change/

Story 4: The AI Training Gap

"2025 Talent Trends: Artificial Intelligence in HR"

Source: SHRM (Society for Human Resource Management)

Published: February 2025

URL: https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/research/2025-talent-trends/ai-in-hr

Story 5: The AI Strategy Illusion

"Workforce 2025 Global Insights Report"

Source: Korn Ferry

URL: https://www.kornferry.com/about-us/press/korn-ferry-reveals-workforce-2025-research

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In this episode I'm joined by Charlie Voller Barnes to discuss the intersection of human performance and AI, exploring the challenges organisations face in adopting AI technologies. We delve into the importance of clarity in goals, the role of people in transformation, and the necessity of continuous feedback and experimentation.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Human Performance and AI

02:03 The State of AI in Business

05:05 Understanding Transformation Failures

08:41 The Role of People in Transformation

13:31 Experimentation and Incremental Change

19:31 Communicating Change Effectively

30:03 Top Tips for Implementing AI Products

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In this week's Human Loop I discuss the evolving landscape of leadership in 2026, emphasising the critical role of AI and the necessity for leaders to adapt their strategies. I highlights the importance of human skills, trust, and purpose in driving organisational performance, while also addressing the challenges posed by skill gaps in the workforce.

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Chapters:

00:00 The State of Leadership in 2026

02:27 Strategic Leadership as a Core Skill

04:22 The Importance of Human Skills and Trust

07:16 Closing the Gap Between Tech and Human Capability

Studies Mentioned:

Story 1: UK business investment in AI and training

https://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/assets/pdfs/media/press-releases/2025-press-releases/lloyds-bank/31.12.2025-lloyds-new-year-flash-business-barometer.pdf

Story 2: Survey coverage & additional context

https://www.lloydsbank.com/business/resource-centre/insight/business-barometer.html

Story 3: Skills gaps & transformation barriers

World Economic Forum summary on skills gaps and upskilling priorities

https://gloat.com/blog/ai-employment-impact

Story 4: AI in the workplace & skills obsolescence

https://www.secondtalent.com/resources/future-of-workplace-statistics-that-are-important-to-know/

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In this week's episode of The Human Loop, Agni and I discuss the importance of authenticity in leadership and recruitment, the role of honesty in attracting talent, and the impact of AI on the recruitment process.

Chapters

00:00 Leadership Failures and Authenticity

03:04 The Role of Honesty in Recruitment

06:04 Speed to Hire: Strategies for Success

08:45 AI Adoption in Recruitment

11:45 The Future of AI in Staffing

14:35 Human vs AI in Recruitment

17:41 Building Trust in Recruitment

20:44 The Importance of Relationships

23:48 Differentiating in a Crowded Market

26:47 Leadership Metrics: Sacrifice and Challenge

29:41 Meaningful Work and Team Success

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In this week's episode I sit down with Andrew Fahey to discuss the challenges and opportunities for CEOs in 2026, emphasising the importance of realistic optimism. We explore the role of AI in transforming professional services, the necessity of human skills in a tech-driven world, and the innovative approaches Briars is taking to enhance client experience and internal processes.

Chapters

00:00 Navigating 2026: Realistic Optimism for CEOs

02:57 Briars: Global Expansion and Professional Services

05:56 AI Disruption in Professional Services

09:00 The Human Element in AI Integration

11:47 Transforming Client Experience with AI

15:01 Internal Use Cases for AI in Leadership

19:58 The Future of Onboarding and Human Skills

24:39 Generational Challenges in Professional Services

29:48 Conclusion: Embracing Change for Success

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In this episode, we break down the gap between knowing what great leadership looks like and actually doing it consistently.

We explore why so many founders and managers struggle to apply what they already know, and how a lack of consistency, feedback, and repetition holds teams back.

We also get into the role of energy in leadership, building trust through small behaviours, and how to create a culture that actually reflects your values, not just what you say.

Chapters

00:10 The “Knowing vs Doing” Gap in Leadership

03:10 Does a Leader’s Energy Impact Performance?

08:25 Why Leaders Shouldn’t Always “Save the Day”

09:30 Coaching vs Being the Expert

11:57 Building Better Weekly Leadership Habits

20:21 How Culture Breaks as You Scale

23:32 The Problem with Leadership Development Today

25:10 The Idea Behind Real-Time Leadership Feedback (A Theory)

27:03 Measuring Leadership & Team Engagement

30:41 Is This Just Surveillance?

33:48 Finding a Co-Founder

39:41 Final Takeaways on Leadership & Development

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In this episode, I break down what it really takes to transition from being an operator to becoming an effective leader.

I share the biggest mistakes I see founders and first-time leaders make, from holding onto the “do everything” mindset to skipping the foundations that actually make teams perform.

We also get into how to build strong team cultures, hire for the right reasons, and give feedback in a way that develops people rather than demotivates them.

Chapters

00:23 Who Is Ben?

01:07 Sahara Marathon Challenge

02:26 Rugby to Career Pivot

05:42 Lockdown Decision Moment

07:04 Building a 7-Figure Business

08:13 Where Leadership Started

12:32 Biggest Leadership Mistakes

15:18 The Delegation Problem

18:15 Leadership at Every Level

20:08 How to Onboard Properly

21:11 Culture Explained Simply

26:57 Why Feedback Is Hard

27:16 The Worst Feedback Ever

30:06 How to Give Better Feedback

33:14 Difficult Conversations

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In this episode of the Human Loop podcast, I discuss two main topics: the importance of understanding one's purpose in leadership, inspired by a podcast featuring Tony Robbins and Alex Hormozi, and the rising adoption of AI in the workplace, as highlighted by a recent Gallup study.

Chapters

00:00 Exploring Leadership and Purpose

03:50 The Rise of AI in the Workplace

Watch the conversation with Tony & Alex referenced here: https://youtu.be/xz-ymFOhBAE?si=YZxtgVx_Y7JxGdK7

Study Mentioned: Gallup

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In this episode, I sit down with Simon Curtis to explore what it really takes to make AI work inside modern businesses.

We unpack why messy data, fragmented systems, and inconsistent processes are holding companies back and why the real challenge isn’t the tech, but people and behaviour.

Simon shares where AI actually creates value, why most implementations fail, and how to think beyond revenue to the time AI can give back.

If you’re trying to figure out how AI fits into your business and how to balance automation with human input, this one’s right up your street.

Chapters

00:00 Intro: AI, Recruitment & The Human Loop

01:53 The AI Wake-Up Call for Businesses

05:12 The Hidden Behaviour Problem in Teams

06:21 Why Process Matters More Than AI Tools

12:22 The Biggest AI Mistake: Volume Over Quality

13:50 Why People Reject AI Outreach Instantly

15:09 Measuring AI ROI: Time vs Revenue

17:29 How AI Should Reshape Roles

23:34 Selection vs Attraction: What AI Can’t Replace

27:20 When AI Projects Actually Succeed

29:02 Why Most Tech Rollouts Fail

30:16 The $100K Mistake: Tools No One Uses

33:24 Why Humans Still Matter in AI

38:11 Final Thoughts: The Future of Work

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In this episode, I sit down with Paul, founder of Ookkee, to talk about how modern service businesses are evolving, the role of AI in day-to-day operations, and what it really means to build an efficient, future-proof company.

We dive into how Ookkee operates as a bookkeeping business, how AI is being integrated into their workflow, and why the real opportunity isn’t replacing people, but enabling better decisions, faster delivery, and more value for clients. We also explore how the industry is changing and what founders need to understand to stay competitive.

If you’re building a business or trying to figure out how AI actually fits into your operations, this one’s right up your street.

Chapters

00:00 – Introduction

01:20 – The Story Behind the Business

04:30 – What the Business Actually Does

08:30 – Where AI Fits Into the Business

13:00 – How AI Is Used Day-to-Day

18:30 – Efficiency vs Replacing Jobs

24:00 – Delivering More Value with AI

30:00 – How the Industry Is Changing

36:00 – The Reality of AI in Business

41:30 – Final Thoughts & Takeaways

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In this weeks round up I discuss the critical issues facing leadership today, including high stress levels among managers, the importance of talent density, and the challenges of AI integration in organisations. He emphasizes the need for real-time engagement, effective change management, and empathetic leadership to navigate these complexities.

00:00 Introduction to The Weekly Loop

00:28 The Leadership Stress Crisis

01:07 Why Middle Management Matters More Than Ever

02:17 Talent Density and Protecting Business Margins

03:12 Real-Time Employee Engagement

03:39 The Long-Term Stress Leaders Have Faced Since 2020

04:11 How Leaders Should Handle Constant Change

05:04 Why CEOs Believe Their Jobs Depend on AI

05:41 Why 95% of AI Pilots Fail

06:29 The Change Management Mistake Companies Make

07:26 The Change Equation: Why People Resist Change

08:18 Closing the Knowing–Doing Gap

09:04 The Risk of Losing Your Best Leaders

10:02 Why Talent Density Will Define Winning Companies

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In this episode, I sit down with Ezra, entrepreneur and multi-business founder to talk about leadership, failure, systems, and the real impact AI is about to have on modern businesses.

After being forced to shut down 65–70% of his group in 2019, Ezra rebuilt with a sharper focus on structure, accountability, and long-term competitive advantage. We explore why most founders are thinking about AI wrong, what actually creates a moat in today’s landscape and why systems matter more than chaos when scaling,

If you're building a company or trying to stay competitive in an AI-driven world, this one's right up your street!

Chapters

00:00 Systems Thinking Starts at Home  

02:00 Leadership Lessons from Childhood  

05:45 Chaos vs Systems in Early-Stage Founders  

08:35 Why Founders Secretly Love the Mess  

09:23 The Collapse: Shutting Down 65–70% of the Group  

11:10 Accountability at Your Lowest Point  

12:00 Why Failure Makes Better Entrepreneurs  

26:01 The AI Question Most Businesses Aren’t Asking  

27:42 The Real Moat: Data, Relationships & Expertise  

30:40 Brand, Memory & The Human Advantage  

43:19 Optimising Humans, Not Replacing Them  

44:48 Turning AI Into Competitive Leverage  

46:00 From Recruiter to Talent Solutions Architect  

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I’m Ben, founder of Atherio and my mission is simple: enable the performance and wellbeing of 10 million managers in the next three years.

In this episode, I share why managers have one of the toughest jobs in business, why most don’t get the support they need, and how we’re bridging the gap between knowing what good leadership looks like and actually doing it.

From elite sport with England national rugby union team to working with global organisations, I’ve seen what makes teams flourish and what causes them to fail.

If you care about building high-performing teams without burning people out, this one’s for you.

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In this week’s episode of the Human in the Loop podcast, I sit down with Nikki, Managing Director of Ferox Partners, to explore what AI really means for recruitment, leadership, and the future of work.

We unpack how AI can drive speed and efficiency in hiring without losing the human relationships that build trust, culture, and performance. From cultural fit versus skill set, to offshoring, early-career development, and burnout in lean teams.

We then delve into the need for businesses to adapt to continuous change and the critical role of resilience and adaptability in maintaining high performance without leading to burnout.

Chapters

00:00 – Introduction & Lunch at Lashings

02:30 – Ferox Partners & Running Lean with AI

06:00 – AI in Recruitment: Efficiency vs Human Judgment

10:30 – Cultural Fit vs Skillset: What Really Matters?

14:45 – Will AI Replace Human Roles?

19:30 – Trust, Emotion & The “Bad Sandwich” Analogy

23:30 – On-Site Client Work & The Value of Human Insight

29:00 – Offshoring vs AI: The Future of Recruitment Models

36:00 – Entry-Level Jobs & The Impact of AI on Early Careers

41:30 – Education, MBAs & Preparing Graduates for AI-First Workplaces

47:00 – Parental Responsibility & Work Ethic in the Next Generation

52:00 – Burnout, Lean Teams & Manager Capability

57:00 – Risk, Development & The Future of Leadership

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In this week's episode I sit down with Lily Kyriacou to discuss the challenges of reactive fixes in business, particularly in the context of team dynamics and performance. Lily shares her experiences at Amdaris, where she observed that traditional approaches to problem-solving were inadequate in a rapidly changing environment.

We then delve into the need for businesses to adapt to continuous change and the critical role of resilience and adaptability in maintaining high performance without leading to burnout.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Business Challenges

01:23 The Impact of Reactive Fixes

05:32 Understanding Team Dynamics

10:18 The Importance of Adaptability

12:13 Exploring Solutions for Resilience

19:52 Identifying Key Behaviors in Teams

25:34 The Shift from Skills to Job Identities

30:08 Reinventing How We Approach Our People

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In this week's episode, Ruth and I discuss the importance of strategic planning for 2026, emphasising the need for business leaders to reflect on past performance and set clear goals. We explore the integration of AI in the construction industry, highlighting its potential to enhance efficiency and safety. Ruth also addresses the challenges of adopting AI, advocating for treating it as a team member and ensuring proper training for employees.

Chapters

00:00 Strategic Planning for the New Year

03:13 AI in the Construction Industry

10:01 Integrating AI as a Team Member

16:59 Enhancing Project Management with AI

21:20 The Future of AI in Construction

30:21 Transforming Construction Through Data and Automation

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In this episode, I sit down with Dodge Woodall, a serial entrepreneur and we explore the tension between the rapid rise of AI and the growing loss of human connection.

We break down how AI is being used in real life and business, the difference between tools like ChatGPT and Claude, and why understanding this technology is becoming essential to stay relevant.

Finally, we unpack the truth about building a business today. Why it’s harder than ever, what’s changing for the next generation, and why entrepreneurship is still one of the most challenging (and rewarding) paths you can take.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

00:01:00 How Dodge Uses AI (ChatGPT vs Real Life)

00:02:00 The Rise of a “Fake” World Online

00:03:00 Why Human Connection Is Disappearing

00:04:30 Trust, Personal Brand & Authenticity

00:07:00 Why Curiosity Builds Real Relationships

00:09:00 Fear of Judgment & Starting a Business

00:11:00 ChatGPT vs Claude

00:15:00 AI Is Accelerating Faster Than We Think

00:16:30 Remote Work vs Real Human Interaction

00:18:30 Will AI Replace Entry-Level Jobs?

00:20:00 Why Business Is So Hard Right Now

00:22:00 The Reality of Hiring & Costs in 2026

00:24:00 Should You Build a Business in the UK?

00:25:00 The Skills That Will Matter in the Future

00:28:30 AI in Events vs Real Human Experience

00:31:00 Social Media, Phones & Lost Moments

00:33:30 The Mental Health Impact of Social Media

00:35:00 Why He Invested in a Mental Health App

00:37:00 Entrepreneurship Is an Extreme Sport

00:40:00 Why People Don’t Trust Anything Anymore

00:41:30 The Lonely Chapter of Building a Business

00:42:30 The Truth About Money in Business

00:44:00 Why Personal Brand Matters More Than Ever

00:45:00 Final Thoughts

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In this episode, we break down the growing disengagement crisis in the global workforce and why it’s costing businesses trillions.

We also get into the real root of the problem: leadership. Why leaders aren’t paying attention, how that’s impacting productivity and retention, and what it means when only a fraction of your workforce is truly engaged.

Finally, we unpack what “engagement” actually means in practice, why this isn’t a talent problem, and how leaders can start rebuilding connection, focus, and performance inside their teams.

Full Research - https://www.gallup.com/workplace/349484/state-of-the-global-workplace.aspx

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In this week’s episode, we unpack some of the best moments from recent shows, exploring what it really means to keep the human in the loop in an AI-driven world.

From rethinking how businesses measure value (time vs revenue), to the growing gap in leadership support, we highlight the conversations that matter most right now. We also dive into how AI is reshaping roles, not replacing them, and why adaptability is becoming the most important skill in modern work.

Chapters

00:30 Time vs revenue thinking

02:00 The leadership support gap

02:40 Building Atherio

04:10 Values and cultural fit

05:50 AI in recruitment

07:20 The rise of AI

08:20 Keeping the human element

09:00 Saving time with automation

10:20 How jobs are evolving

11:00 The power of reflection

11:30 Why culture matters

13:30 When AI goes wrong

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This week on The Human Loop, I'll be sharing key insights from my day at Aibl Live, a leadership and AI event in London attended by CEOs, founders, and business leaders across the UK.

What started as a conversation about AI quickly became a conversation about leadership, culture, trust, and the future of work.

I break down the “three cliffs” preventing businesses from seeing real ROI from AI adoption: strategic clarity, divisional alignment, and individual capability. Plus, insights from leaders at WPP, Ipsos, and The Happiness Index on change fatigue, psychological safety, middle management, and why junior talent may be most at risk in the AI decade.

Check out Aibl here - https://live.aiblmedia.com/e/london26

Chapters

01:41 – Why AI conversations are really about leadership

03:25 – The “Three Cliffs” of AI adoption

03:54 – Cliff #1: Strategic clarity & leadership alignment

04:47 – Cliff #2: Divisional alignment & ROI

05:38 – Cliff #3: Individual capability vs tool access

07:59 – The hidden inequality risk in AI adoption

08:26 – Change fatigue and leadership in modern business

09:14 – Why morale and disengagement are rising

09:41 – Young people reporting the lowest workplace happiness

10:08 – The junior talent crisis AI may create

10:31 – Ben’s roundtable: Building a culture that can handle the truth

13:14 – Five key leadership takeaways from the event

16:33 – What the winning companies of the AI decade will do differently

17:31 – Final thoughts & outro

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This week I answer some quick-fire questions on AI, the knowing–doing gap, and why businesses are investing heavily in leadership development but still struggling to see real results. I cover the $366B spent on people each year, why most learning doesn’t translate into performance, and what really happens when it’s time to apply it in the real world. I also share thoughts on how AI is starting to support leaders with real-time insights and what responsible use of that data actually looks like.

If you're thinking about the future of leadership and performance, this is a good one to dive into.

Chapters

00:10 – The $366B Learning Problem

02:09 – The Knowing–Doing Gap

04:30 – Fixing It with Real-Time Coaching

06:56 – Why Managers Aren’t Measured Properly

09:33 – What Customers Actually Experience

11:50 – Real Results & Growth

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