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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Alberta voted to stay in Canada on Monday by a roughly 75/25 margin. But the real story is what the referendum did to Alberta politics. David is joined by Zain Velji, campaign strategist, co-director of Naheed Nenshi’s Alberta NDP leadership run, and partner at Northweather, and Dan Arnold, who lived most of his youth in Alberta and was former lead research strategist for the Trudeau Liberals, and is now chief strategy officer at Pollara.

They dig into why separatist support barely budged, how Trump and Musk ended up motivating federalist turnout, and why Danielle Smith lost four of the nine questions she wrote herself despite outspending her opponents ten to one. Can a premier most Albertans suspect is a separatist purge the separatists from her own party? Is the Calgary-rural coalition coming apart, and is Nenshi’s NDP building something more durable? Plus: how Pierre Poilievre navigated a split base, whether Mark Carney now has permission to engage in Alberta, and whether Ottawa should draw a line on two-tier healthcare.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! The Chiefs are back. This franchise has spawned more sequels than The Fast and the Furious, but unlike Vin Diesel, these three bring something new every time. David is joined by Brian Topp, Ian Brodie and Tim Murphy for a wide-ranging hour on a country being tested from three directions at once:

Quebec. The Parti Québécois has won a weak minority. They discuss whether the new government will use every tool it has to build “winning conditions” for a referendum, and whether Ottawa should confront it the way Trudeau and Dion did or quietly take its issues away one by one.

Alberta. With the referendum entering its final week, they look at what Prime Minister Carney should say when he lands in the province. They also ask whether the vote could be the beginning of the end for the UCP. And one of the things they discussed with an emerging throughline in both of those votes: the potential of immigration becoming a real wedge issue in Canada again. 

Canada–U.S. There’s no deal in sight. Can Canadians hold together as the economic pain mounts, and what would it take to keep that solidarity intact?

Plus, the ever important role of the Opposition. Carney’s consensus is unusually strong. Should the Conservatives and NDP keep chipping away at it, or concede the moment and position themselves for the fight that comes after Trump?

Brian Topp was the former chief of staff to Rachel Notley and deputy chief of staff to Roy Romanow, and is now a founding partner at GT & Company. Ian Brodie was Stephen Harper’s first chief of staff and helped found the CPC; he is now a political science professor at the University of Calgary and senior advisor at New West Public Affairs. And Tim Murphy, former chief of staff to Paul Martin and now executive vice president and chief strategic affairs officer at Aecon.

Settle in for an hour of the kind of conversation you only get from people who’ve actually run government at the highest levels of Canadian government..

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! When Ukrainian drones hit the Russian internet giant Yandex this week, bot traffic and propaganda posts reportedly fell off a cliff. That tells you something about how manufactured and polluted our information space has become. Andrew MacDougall, five-time Herle Burly guest, former Director of Communications for Prime Minister Harper, now partner at Trafalgar Strategy in London, and senior policy fellow at the Centre for Media, Technology and Democracy, joins David to explain the attention economy. Are we paying big tech with our time and our brains instead of our money? And is it taking a wrecking our mental health and our democracy?

Andrew argues that regulators have spent years trying to clean up the mess instead of shutting off the machine that makes it. He wants to go after the business model itself: make people pay for social media, end anonymous accounts, and use competition and product liability law against addictive design. David offers a few counterpoints. He points out that Canada has managed a genuine national consensus in the face of Trump 2.0, and the two dig into why Mark Carney's steady, analogue style is landing with anxious voters. Then they tackle the AI wave about to supercharge all of it, and why governments are doing nothing about it while 75% of Canadians want it regulated.

Is democracy about to fall into the gap between our Paleolithic brains and godlike technology? Have a listen.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! David sits down with his old friend who's now at the centre of the federal government’s policy agenda: The Honourable Steven MacKinnon, Canada’s Minister of Transport and Government House Leader.

Minister MacKinnon lays out why Ottawa the agenda is necessary as he pushes back on privatization claims and comparisons to Ontario premier Mike Harris’ sale of the 407. He explains how Bill C-39, the Building Canada Strong Act, changes federal labour disputes, and David presses him on whether it amounts to the end of the right to strike. They also discuss how the government plans to meet its duty to consult First Nations while approving projects within a year.

MacKinnon offers a candid admission that, with a crowded agenda and the previous NDP deal, the Trudeau government didn't spend enough time on the economy. The conversation wraps with his case for why the Liberal brand still owns the political centre to this day.

It's an insider's view of what the government is actually doing and why. Join us.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! This week David sits down with Anthony Scaramucci. The man immortalized in the dictionary as a unit of time.

From Wall Street to the White House to fellow podcaster on The Rest Is Politics: US, Anthony is out with his new book, All the Wrong Moves. He argues that three catastrophic decisions — China's admission to the WTO, the bailout of Wall Street after 2008, and the deficit-financed invasion of Iraq — set the stage for Donald Trump.

Scaramucci knows Prime Minister Carney personally, going back three decades to their Goldman Sachs days, and he doesn't hold back: calling Carney the best of any Western leader at managing Trump, "not even close." And he even brings us the receipts, literally revealing a photo of the pair at his annual Davos wine party. 

He also gets candid about his own reasons for joining the Trump administration in the first place, what it cost him personally and professionally, and why, despite still calling himself a Republican, he's actively working to see MAGA politically destroyed.

The conversation ranges from the unraveling of the post-2008 financial system and the strange marriage of Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party that produced MAGA, to what a post-Trump America might actually look like, and whether the damage done to allies like Canada and the UK can ever really be undone.

Join us for a sharp, funny, and brutally honest conversation.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Three years ago, David convened our second Ontario Liberal leadership debate in studio, no podiums, no clock, just candidates talking. Now, with the party searching again for its way back from third place, we’re doing it a third time.

All five contenders for the Ontario Liberal leadership sat down face-to-face with David for a wide-ranging, unscripted conversation covering affordability, healthcare, the economy, trade with the U.S., and what it actually takes to beat Doug Ford. The goal wasn't to stage a roast but to let each candidate make their case for a very serious job. If you're a party member with a vote coming up, this one's essential listening.

Five candidates, one contest, and a party finding its way out of the wilderness.

The candidates (in order of introduction): Dylan Marando, Stephanie Bowman, Navdeep Bains, Lee Fairclough, and Eric Lombardi. 

Our goal is simply this: To help eligible voters make an excellent choice. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! This week, we indulge in a little podcast inbreeding here at Air Quotes Media with our colleagues Mike McDonald and Geoff Meggs – hosts of Hotel Pacifico and two of the sharpest political strategists in the country – to dig into the extraordinary unraveling happening on the right in British Columbia.

Once a stable coalition of free-market Liberals and Conservatives, the province's "not-NDP" option has collapsed into open civil war under new leader Kerry-Lynne Findlay, with nine MLAs fleeing her caucus, breakaway parties multiplying, and a culture war base increasingly hostile to the "board of trade" politics that used to define the coalition. Mike, former chief of staff to Christy Clark, and Geoff, former chief of staff to the late John Horgan, walk us through how a party that nearly beat David Eby a year ago has since imploded so spectacularly. And why the province's upcoming by-election could decide whether Findlay survives at all.

But this isn't just a BC story. As Mike and Geoff argue, the forces tearing apart the province's right (radicalization, purity tests, a rejection of business-class conservatism in favour of culture-war populism) are the same ones reshaping Conservative politics nationally and beyond. David, Mike, and Geoff also get into Eby's precarious hold on power, the fight over Indigenous rights and DRIPA, the collapsing softwood lumber and forestry sectors, and whether a snap fall election is coming.

If you think what happens in BC stays in BC, this episode will change your mind. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Back in July, the Wall Street Journal ran a striking series on how Europe is quietly rethinking its arrangements with the world to counter a changing, increasingly predatory United States. And surprisingly, named Mark Carney as one of the leaders pushing Europe in that direction, pointing back to his Davos speech and his idea of "variable geometry" alliances replacing the old hub-and-spoke reliance on Washington. 

We want to explore these themes: what does it means for institutions like NATO and the G7 to become secondary to newer, looser alignments? How does the Western world meet the challenge of China going forward? And what does all of this mean for Canada's economy and its place in the world?

To dig into it, we bring in two brilliant people today: Jennifer Welsh and Colin Robertson.

Jennifer Welsh is a four-time guest of the pod, Rhodes Scholar, co-founder of the Oxford Institute for Ethics, Law and Armed Conflict. Currently, the Director of the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University.

And making his first appearance, Colin Robertson. He served as a Canadian diplomat for over 30 years. He helped negotiate the original Canada/U.S. Free Trade Agreement and NAFTA. Currently, he’s a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and host of its Global Exchange podcast.

They dig into why countries from Europe to Australia to South Korea are hedging their bets on America, what "variable geometry" actually looks like in practice, whether the G7 and G20 are still fit for the world we live in, and some genuinely concrete questions too. Like whether Canada should still buy the F-35, and why Mexico deserves to be treated as a real ally rather than a partner of convenience. 

A fascinating, wide-ranging conversation about what's replacing the old international order, and Canada's surprising role at the centre of it. Stay with us for the hour. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! This one's for anyone tired of the heat-with-no-light that passes for policy debate on Twitter. David brings together three super smart policy minds who understand government — spanning different ideologies and varying degrees of partisanship. It’s a rare, respectful, rational, 90-minute conversation about the predicament Canada finds itself in and what policy steps the country should take next in this trade war with the US.

Tyler Meredith, Jennifer Robson, and Ginny Roth dig into whether Canada should still be racing back to the table with the Americans, or whether this is finally the moment to build real independence from that relationship. They debate what's actually achievable through internal free trade. Tyler makes the case the economic models behind it are, in his words, "bullshit" and why Canadian businesses have been sitting on their capital for the better part of a decade.

They’ll also discuss what it means that the federal government has quietly become one of the country's biggest investors: building and owning pipelines, de-risking major projects, and increasingly deciding which sectors to grow. 

They dig into the politically thorny stuff too: interprovincial trade barriers nobody wants to touch, the tanker ban, First Nations consultation, and why "brain drain" needs to come back into the conversation. 

And they close on the immediate question of who's actually hurting right now: auto workers, steel workers, forestry towns … and whether EI, retraining, and liquidity supports are anywhere close to adequate for what's coming next. 

This is a substantive episode that spans real disagreement and real depth. Pour yourself a coffee and settle in with the panel:

Tyler is the former Head of Fiscal and Economic Policy for Prime Minister Trudeau and Ministers of Finance, Chrystia Freeland and Bill Morneau. Today, he’s a Founding Partner at Meredith/Boessenkool & Phillips Policy Advisors.

Jennifer has served in senior roles in policy development and research with the Federal Government. She’s now Program Director and Associate Professor of Political Management at Carleton University.

And Ginny has spent a life in politics, most recently as Directory of Comms for Pierre Poilievre’s Conservative leadership campaign. She’s a sought after commentator across various media and a Partner at Crestview Strategy advising clients on public policy. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! David spent the weekend, like a lot of Canadians, trying to process the breakdown in Canada-US trade talks and the unusually sharp statement Mark Carney delivered to the country the day before. So he called in The Chiefs: three former chiefs of staff to some of Canada's most prominent political leaders.

It gets pointed fast.

Did the Americans overplay a genuinely greedy hand? Did Carney make the right call walking away? Was the government's credibility already damaged by how it handled the Gordie Howe Bridge file and did is show weakness the Americans noticed?

There's a real disagreement over Danielle Smith's freelancing in Washington, whether the federal government has been too closed and secretive through the negotiations, and whether the actual documents from the talks should be released publicly.

They also look ahead: what a genuine pivot away from US dependence would require, the risk to public finances if bond markets get skittish, how fast major projects could realistically move, and lastly, what all of this means for Pierre Poilievre now facing renewed questions about his leadership.

A tough, sharp, no-holds-barred conversation between three pros of very different stripes who've all sat at the highest levels of government. Not to be missed.

Enjoy the hour with:

Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper. Now, Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary, and Senior Advisor at New West Public Affairs.

Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin. Now, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON.

Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta and Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan. Now, founding partner at GT&co. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Back on the show for a third time... Trevor Tombe: a truth-telling economist who's never afraid to take a view that's five or six canoe lengths out of the mainstream. Trevor's a professor of economics at the University of Calgary and director of Fiscal and Economic Policy at its School of Public Policy, and he's spent the summer on a major study into the fiscal and economic implications of Alberta separation.

This episode covers a lot of ground. 

Trevor lays out the case against retaliating on Trump's tariffs. Arguing Canada simply doesn't have the economic size to change American behaviour the way China can, and that retaliation risks looking like Canada abandoning its own commitment to free trade. 

He also walks through his research showing Canada's economy hasn't just slowed, it's been permanently knocked onto a lower growth trajectory — a $60-billion-a-year hit. There's a sharp defence of resource extraction as Canada's genuine economic strength rather than something to be embarrassed about, a candid take on when and why government should take on more risk in major projects, and a clear-eyed warning about the US fiscal situation and what it means for Canadian borrowing costs. 

And we close with the numbers on why an independent Alberta would be worse off, not better. Trade friction, capital flight, and lost access to the rest of the country's labour force chief among them. A dense, wide-ranging hour with one of Canada's sharpest economic minds. Stay with us. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! David's old friend Frank Graves, founder and president of EKOS Research and known online as the unmistakable "Voice of Franky" on Twitter, is never shy about speaking his mind. But unlike most loud voices online, Frank brings the data to back it up. 

He was the first pollster to flag a Liberal resurgence back in early 2025, when everyone else had written the party off. We all know how that turned out. Now EKOS has fresh numbers showing the Liberals at 45%, the Conservatives down 14 points since the election to 27%, and the NDP climbing to 17%.

David and Frank dig underneath those topline numbers, and it's a wide-ranging one conversation. Frank explains why what's left of the Conservative coalition is increasingly defined by disinformation and alienation rather than ordinary political disagreement, and how he actually measures that. He walks through the sharp generational divide in the numbers, with under-35 Canadians deeply pessimistic about their futures and drifting toward the NDP's brand of progressive populism, while support for the Liberals climbs steadily with age. 

Together they take a detour into Quebec, where Frank's data suggests the Trump threat has actually strengthened attachment to Canada rather than fuelled separatism, a dynamic he contrasts with the more worrying numbers coming out of the Alberta referendum debate. 

And in the back half, Frank goes deep on something he's increasingly alarmed about: how AI-generated "slopaganda" and fraudulent respondents are quietly corrupting online polling panels themselves, and why he thinks the industry badly needs regulation before trust in the numbers fully evaporate. 

A fascinating, wide-ranging hour with one of the sharpest minds in Canadian polling. Stay with us for the hour. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Today's episode takes on one big, hairy question: what's actually happening to the Canadian standard of living? 

To help sort it out, we have one of our all-time favourite economists – or as Maclean's calls her – "the caring person's economist." Armine Yalnizyan is here! She's a brilliant policy thinker, one of the leading voices on Canada's economy who coined the term "she-cession" to describe the pandemic's toll on women, and she's currently an Atkinson Fellow on the Future of Workers, deep into a report on private equity's growing footprint in Canadian care services.

Armine walks us through why GDP per capita is a lousy way to measure how Canadians are actually doing, why the wealth gap between the top 40% and bottom 40% is now the widest Statistics Canada has ever recorded, and why she thinks the care economy (childcare, eldercare, healthcare) is the biggest lever Canada isn't pulling. 

She has a warning for Canada that private equity moving into care services could mean Canadians paying more and getting less, the same way it's played out in veterinary clinics, and lays out some zero-cost policy fixes the Carney government could adopt tomorrow if it wanted to protect the sector. 

And Armine has some pointed words for Shopify's Tobi Lütke, who mused online recently in support of idea to give the wealthy more votes than the poor. She’s not exactly convinced society's richest are the deep thinkers they're sometimes made out to be. 

A sharp, wide-ranging conversation about who's actually benefiting from the growth in the Canadian economy right now, and who's being left behind. Stay with us for the hour. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! There's drama afoot within the conservative movement in Canada. Fights about what the party stands for and where it's going. It's all over Twitter and it's openly spilling into the pod-verse, national media airwaves, opinions in print, and into the hallways of Parliament. If you're a friend of Air Quotes Media, you know it has been talked about over at Curse of Politics.

Today we talk with one of the most thoughtful voices on the topic: Ben Woodfinden. Ben is an academic, a thinker about Conservative politics, worked for Pierre Poilievre in the run-up to and during the 2025 election, and has been active in this debate for the last couple of weeks. 

He doesn't think Poilievre has to leave for the Conservatives to be successful, but he does think they need to broaden their message. He shares his view that the Party needs to adopt a more patriotic position about Canada and demonstrate more love for Canada, including fiercer opposition to what Trump represents. At the same time, he thinks the Conservative Party of Canada's appeal to young people and its disruptive, anti-establishment energy is genuinely onto something and shouldn't be thrown away in the process. 

A smart, candid conversation about where conservatism in Canada goes from here. Stay with us. 

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Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Last week The Wall Street Journal published a backstory on what Mark Carney's been doing in Europe. Building alliances, stiffening spines against Trump, searching for sovereignty out of rupture, calls from one of his personal cell phones. It didn't contain exclusively new information, but it was fascinating detail in an American publication that prompted another question: How do journalists cover Mark Carney's government and what's actually different about this prime minister?

Prime Minister Carney is an internationalist with a following in Europe and the US. He's a known quantity to economic journalists everywhere. His government gives the impression of frenetic pace. He's managing the most difficult American administration in living memory. That's not a normal beat.

To help figure out what it's actually like to cover Mark Carney day to day, we've got three of the best journalists in the business:

Paul Wells, publisher of his own brilliant and widely read newsletter, https://paulwells.substack.com; Janyce McGregor, senior reporter at CBC News Network and a member of the Parliamentary Press Gallery; and Mackenzie Gray, national reporter with global news covering Parliament Hill. 

It was a genuinely revealing conversation. 

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Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Today on the show, somebody who bears the proud designation of most appearances on the pod. We call her the economist explainer-in-chief, but more officially, she's the senior vice president and chief economist at the Royal Bank of Canada: Frances Donald!

This one's got range. Frances walks us through the contradiction of retirees sitting on record wealth while showing up in the bottom income bracket, why productivity has become Canada's most tired yet most important word, and what actually happens if CUSMA falls apart. Spoiler, it's a story that’s a regional nightmare, and how data talk of Canada as a whole misses the story of those various regional economies and various demographic economies, where Canadians are experiencing things very, very differently from each other. And buckle up for a genuinely wild story about a trucking exec who's already quietly quit Canada and moved his whole operation to Texas. Finally, Frances leaves us with an economic metaphor: Canada is an out of shape guy who needs to lose 100 pounds. 

Settle in for an hour with Frances Donald. 

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Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Artificial intelligence (AI) is here, and it is integrating itself in society in rapid ways.

Some boast AI has the power to transform our economy and produce growth rates we once knew in Canada. Others hype soon-to-come breakthroughs in science and medicine as a result of AI. These are exciting advancements … should potential meet reality.

People on the other hand – workers, students, voters – feel AI might put them out of a job. AI’s impact on how we organize ourselves as a society, and how we maintain cohesion in a world of massive power-hungry data centres and even more massive wealth concentration, is nothing short of enormous if not frightening … just consult with James Cameron and remember what Skynet was all about.

So to talk about it all we’re joined by the minister tasked with managing “AI for All” – Canada’s new national artificial intelligence strategy. Join us for a discussion with Evan Solomon, Canada’s first Minister of AI. 

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Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! It’s been a little over a year since the last federal election in Canada and this past week the House of Commons rose for the summer. It’s hard to argue it’s been anything but a good year for Carney Liberals. But that was last year. 

So, what does the Carney government need to do differently in year two? On Alberta separatism, what’s the message and who should be the messenger? On CUSMA, what are the implications to a non-renewal? And how should the government think about the Fall Budget over the summer? 

To answer those questions we're joined by The Chiefs! Three former Chiefs of Staff to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government:

Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper. Now, Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary, and Senior Advisor at New West Public Affairs.

Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin. Now, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON.

Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta and Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan. Now, founding partner at GT&co. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! 20-some years ago, the PC Party of Canada disappeared federally, and over time was replaced by the modern Conservative Party of Canada. 

This episode is about exploring Canadian conservative political thought, the state of conservatism and the state of the Conservative parties in Canada today, and whether the Conservative Party of Canada can build a big tent winning coalition.

Our guests today share their views about the current leadership of the Conservative Party, the current direction of the Conservative Party, the role of populism in the Conservative Party, the lack of a role for Quebec in the Conservative Party, and more.

With us:

Jason Kenney. He spent over 25 years in elected office. Federal MP and cabinet minister under Stephen Harper. Then 18th Premier of Alberta. He's now a senior advisor at Bennett Jones and a senior fellow at the C.D. Howe Institute. 

Kory Teneycke. Curse of Politics panelist. Founder of Rubicon Strategies. And a longtime conservative strategist who served as Stephen Harper's director of communications and has run Doug Ford's campaigns in Ontario. 

And, and Fred DeLorey. Recent guest on Curse of Politics. Chair and chief strategy officer at North Star Public Affairs. He was the national campaign manager for the Conservative Party in the 2021 election, and earlier served as director of field operations for Doug Ford and director of political operations for Stephen Harper.

It's as good a banter about politics as you'll find. So join us for our conversation about the state of conservatism in Canada.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! It’s been a year of economic anxiety and trade upheaval in Canada with our largest trading partner applying tariffs, making threats, and taking a far more adversarial stance, in advance of the upcoming CUSMA negotiation.

We’re experiencing an economy with a very low growth rate, an affordability crisis, and industry disruption in steel, autos, and aluminum.

I was particularly curious to get a fulsome and thoughtful Conservative take on the Carney approach, so we’re joined by Adam Chambers, Conservative MP and Trade Critic, and Vice-Chair of the House Standing Committee on International Trade. 

Adam acknowledged the realities of dealing with a difficult American government, but that a deal that could advantage the Canadian economy might still be possible. We discuss his view that Canada’s fiscal position is a reckless one that puts the country in long-term jeopardy, and much more.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! There was a resignation in Ottawa last week that struck a louder chord than most. High profile Liberal caucus member, and former Cabinet Minister, Steven Guilbeault announced will be leaving politics over the summer.

Best known for his time as Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Mr. Guilbeault has been nothing if not candid about his beliefs about climate change and the policy actions he undertook as a member of the Trudeau Liberals to address it.

The Carney government’s approach has differed greatly, of course, with most of those policies having now been eliminated, reversed, or weakened considerably.

Today we approach the podcast as an exit interview, and we hope you’ll join us for this frank discussion. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Here’s a question for you: Can anything pierce the political armour of Ontario Premier Doug Ford?

Recently, pollsters have showed tightening numbers in the wake of Ford controversies like buying and then selling a private jet over the course of 72 hours. Selling off Ontario Place so it could be clear cut and turned it into a spa. And just this week, Ford’s government unilaterally took over the Toronto Island lands and designated Billy Bishop Airport as a “special economic zone”.

All of this as the Ontario NDP try to find their footing and the Ontario Liberal Party is gearing up for a leadership race.

So ... just how vulnerable is Doug Ford? Or isn’t he?

That’s the question I put to my guest today, pollster David Coletto. He’s the Founder, Chair and CEO of Abacus Data. And the prolific writer of the excellent “InFocus” newsletter on Substack.

His latest wave of tracking suggests the PCs have regained their lost ground. And Ford’s personal image has rebounded. How is this man a political rubber ball, rolling on largely unimpeded as things just seem to bounce off him?

We’ll dig into it. And the state of play in Ontario politics. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! We’re over a year into a new government and nobody could possibly argue there hasn’t been a significant recalibration in the way Canada thinks about climate policy and environmental regulation.

The public policy balance between the environment, pipelines, and project-building has shifted from what it was, say, back in 2018. So has the public’s perception, by the way. Recent polling shows that Canadians now prioritize economic growth over environmental protection. 

All of this is what we’ll explore today. From multiple angles. In 3 different individual conversations.

First up ... Aaron Wherry, senior writer at the CBC ... to set the table on the issues between Ottawa and Alberta.

Then … Rick Smith, President of the Canadian Climate Institute, for his perspective. We talk about emissions reduction, what’s happening to the industrial carbon price, the clean energy economy and more.

Finally … Andrew Leach, energy and environmental economist and professor at the University of Alberta, to explore the energy sector, particularly oil. The economic impact vs. opportunity cost of pipelines, and the tension between market forces and climate policy. 

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Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! If you’re any kind of regular listener to the Air Quotes Media Pod universe, you know a powerful political eruption is happening in B.C., as a result of a ruling of the B.C. Supreme Court.

The Cowichan Decision, in combination with the existing DRIPA legislation, has been covered in depth by our sister pod, Hotel Pacifico.

Why should a politico in the rest of Canada care? Because I think this is the biggest legal question, not just in British Columbia, but all of Canada right now: Can a court declare Indigenous title over privately held land?

If so, do you own your house after 30 years of mortgage payments? Does industry invest in new nation building projects on land they don’t even know is theirs? 

The politics of this thing are sinking Premier Eby in British Columbia. Poilievre raised it as a cudgel in Q.P.  Prime Minister Carney responded that private property rights are fundamental in Canada and that his government will always defend them.  They are appealing the decision of the B.C. Supreme Court.

Meanwhile, the issue goes to the heart of reconciliation agenda in this country. Harming perceptions and long fought for advances.

With us to discuss ALL OF IT are the hosts of Hotel Pacifico and 2 of the best political strategists I know ... Mike McDonald & Geoff Meggs. 

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Recorded live at the Empire Club on May 6, 2026.

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Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! It’s been about a week and a half since the federal government tabled their Spring Economic Statement, “Canada Strong for All: United in a Time of Uncertainty.” 

Today we sit in discussion with Canada's Minister of Finance, François-Philippe Champagne to reflect on our serious economic challenges, and yet, why he thinks Canada is a lighthouse in an uncertain world.

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Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! So, there is little doubt we are living in a time of massive change.

•  A dislocation – perhaps temporary, perhaps not – between long time trading partners.
• New stressors on our economy forcing new economic alliances.
• A voting public with very real pocketbook issues looking at government line-item spending – a private jet, for instance – like never before.
• A minority parliament suddenly transformed into a majority.
• How do you successfully GOVERN your way through it all? That’s what we explore on the pod today. And we’ve got just the people to do it with.

 The Chiefs are here! Three former Chiefs of Staff to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government:

Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper. Now, Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary, and Senior Advisor at New West Public Affairs.

Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin. Now, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON.

Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta and Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan. Now, founding partner at GT&co.

We talked about the Spring Economic Statement. Including the mostly confusing launch of the Sovereign Wealth Fund. The state of the Canada/U.S. file. The new Carney majority. And the arteriosclerosis of old governments that would lead them to the door of a private jet showroom. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! 

The way we’re thinking about defence in Canada is not the same as it was 5 years ago. 1 year ago. Or even 6 months ago. The wars in Ukraine and Iran have dramatically demonstrated the impact of new technologies. And in February, the Carney government committed more than 80 billion NEW dollars over 5 years to rebuild and rearm our forces. 340 billion in total. It’s more than defence spending.  It’s a whole new defence industrial strategy. 

I want to know: How do we spend that money?  What kind of defence capacity do we build?  Who and what are we defending ourselves against? How have war innovations changed thinking about what we produce, or procure? What will our North look like in 10 years?

This is just some of what I covered with our guest, David Perry, today. Including ... shockingly ... his opinion that we should be buying American jets! And my debate with him on that.

David is making his 2nd appearance with us on the pod. He’s the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, a non-partisan, independent think tank.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! With me today is Carla Beck, leader of the Saskatchewan New Democratic Party, the official opposition in the Saskatchewan Legislature ... and a heartland NDPer.

As you know I’m from Saskatchewan. My political roots are in Saskatchewan. I just love Saskatchewan politics. This is my opportunity and yours to get all caught up on what's going on in Saskatchewan politics and whether the NDP have a plan to beat Scott Mo and the Sask Party in the next election. 

Stick around for my exchange with Ms. Beck about the implications of Avi Lewis' victory in the federal NDP leadership and what that means for her prospects of election in Saskatchewan. 

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! We’ve got a special show lined up for you today. A little different in format. Much longer in running time. But a subject matter that merits both of those adjustments.

This is our “What’s actually going on in the Canadian Economy?” mega pod.

As you know, there is so much change afoot and so many stresses: revenue generation, tariffs, shifting trade alliances, provincial deficits, growing inequality, unprecedented high tech innovation, nation-building projects, and my goal here is to do a show that tries to wrap its arms around all of it and make some sense. 

But this isn’t a panel show. I want to interrogate their perspectives 1 on 1, each according to their specific area of expertise.

To level set and give us a macro view of it all, we’ll start with Kevin Carmichael. Economics columnist and Editor at Large at The Logic. 

Then we’ll go sector by sector:

Tariffs and trade with Randall Bartlett. Deputy Chief Economist with Desjardins, specializing in federal and provincial economies, government budgets and fiscal policy.

Energy and Natural Resources with Heather Exner-Pirot. Senior fellow and director of energy, natural resources and environment at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute. 

Capital Infrastructure financing and Canada’s balance sheet with Tim Murphy. EVP and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON. (And esteemed member of our Chiefs Panel.)

And The Inequality of the K-shaped Economy with Heather Scoffield. CEO of the Canadian Tax Observatory and former Ottawa Bureau Chief at The Toronto Star and The Canadian Press.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites!

It’s not often on the pod we have a diplomat …
a Statesman …
an Ambassador …
a Premier …
a leader of 2 Parties …
an 11-time electoral winner …
an academic …
and a pretty fine piano player all in the form of a single guest.  

Bob Rae, a true political polymath, joins us for the next hour or so. We’re going to talk about: our relationship with the United States now and into the future, Trump 2.0, the U.N., and Canada’s role in the world. As well as reflections on the life of Stephen Lewis.

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites, we’re sinking deep into the Washington swamp today. Our guest is Brody Mullins, co-author of: “The Wolves of K Street”.

If you’ve ever wondered about the cigar chomping, big-time lobbying industry in Washington, located on K street just a few blocks from the White House, its rise, its non-existent moral code, its supplanting of American democracy for corporate interests ... this book is for you.

I like this quote from USA TODAY Washington Bureau Chief, Susan Page: “However nefarious you think the lobbying industry is, Brody and Luke Mullins have news: It’s worse.”

Brody Mullins is a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter. He spent two decades at The Wall Street Journal writing stories about the intersection of business and politics, exposing numerous scandals, and prompting new laws to protect Americans against corruption by government officials, lobbyists and Wall Street traders. His work has appeared in The Washington Post, The New York Times, Vanity Fair, The Atlantic, Politico and just about everywhere else. Washingtonian magazine calls him “one of the 50 best reporters in politics.”

Join us for a look into politics, money, power and lobbying in the second Trump administration.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. A hard turn to the Left on this episode of the pod, because I want to examine the past, present and future of the New Democratic Party, and ask if the party is over for Canada’s NDP.

To do that, a wide-ranging discussion. We’ll cover the federal leadership race. An assessment of the candidates and each of their challenges. What the new leader needs to be thinking about on Day 1. The current state of the NDP federally and provincially – and the differences between those wings. What are the pros and cons of a federated party? And lots more.

And with me to do that, two of the most insightful political practitioners on that side of the aisle. You know the names:

Jordan Leichnitz … contributor, co-star, and “Chief Camping Officer” at the Curse of Politics.  Over 2 decades as a progressive political strategist and campaigner at every level. 10 years on Parliament Hill in senior strategy positions for the NDP, including Deputy Chief of Staff. Currently, she’s the Canada Director for the Freidrich Ebert Stiftung foundation.

And Brian Topp … contributing member of the most popular panel we run on The Herle Burly, the 3-headed beast known as The Chiefs.  One of Canada’s foremost political strategists.  Former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta. And Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan.  A co-architect of Jack Layton’s Orange Wave as the NDP’s national campaign director. Today, he’s one of the founding partners of GT&co.

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites, The Chiefs join us today.

They’re a regular feature on the pod now, showing up every couple of months to bestow a little governance wisdom upon us … 3 former Chiefs of Staff to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government: Brian Topp, Tim Murphy, and Ian Brodie.

Alright, so today we’re talking about PMs taking foreign trips. What do they typically accomplish and what are these Carney-missions accomplishing?

Then, the machinations of Caucus management. What happens when MPs have different public opinions than the Party?

And so, making their 12th appearance on the pod:

Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta. Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan. Co-architect of Jack Layton’s Orange Wave. Today, he’s a founding partner at GT&co.

Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin. Today, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON.

Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper and central to the founding of the CPC. Today, Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary, and Senior Advisor at New West Public Affairs. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. We are on the clock today, with someone whose agenda is more crammed than most, so we’ll keep this brief.

Our guest is Canada's Minister of Industry, the Honourable Mélanie Joly.

We’re going to cover a number of issues: Canada’s auto industry, industrial strategy in an emerging new world order, possible referendums in Quebec & Alberta ... you know, just some of the small stuff. 

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. A fellow podcaster on the show today. But leaving his credentials there would be selling our guest very short indeed. 

Michael Liebreich is here!

He’s an acclaimed thought leader on clean energy, mobility, technology, climate, sustainability and finance. The CEO of Liebreich Associates and co-managing partner of EcoPragma Capital, which focuses on companies committed to the net-zero transition. Michael’s former roles include membership in the UK’s Taskforce on Energy Efficiency, advisor to the UK Board of Trade, as well as advisor to the UN on Sustainable Energy for All. He’s addressed the UN General Assembly.

His very own podcast is called “Cleaning Up” where he hosts in-depth conversations with leaders in climate change and its solutions.  Guests have included Tony Blair, Prince Albert of Monaco ... and some fellow named Mark Carney.

So today, I’m talking with Michael about clean energy and the energy transition. Lessons learned from efforts until this point. I want to know how clean electrification moves forward and accelerates as political interest in western democracies wanes. And lastly, what should Canada’s role in all of this be?

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Alright, greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. A special show today. If you’re any kind of regular listener to either this podcast or Curse of Politics, you know my brilliant friend and mentor Elly Alboim passed away almost 2 weeks ago.

To précis a remarkably accomplished professional life, Elly was a journalist for the CBC for almost a quarter century, before becoming Parliamentary Bureau Chief for TV news and National Political Editor. He was a senior policy and strategy advisor to Paul Martin and Kathleen Wynne.  And a long-time educator in Journalism at Carleton and Principal at Earnscliffe Strategies.

I want to remember Elly’s life and work today. The kind of man he was. His influence on people, on the country and beyond. 

With me to do that are 3 friends and colleagues who worked with him, sparred with him, learned from him, loved him:

Peter Mansbridge, Keith Boag and Peter Nicholson.

2 titans of the CBC. An economist and head of policy. Herle Burly alumni, all.

Thank you for joining us.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Fred DeLorey is here!

For those who may not know, Fred was the National Campaign Manager for Erin O’Toole in 2021. Before that the Director of Field Operations for Ontario Premier Doug Ford. And he’s a former Director of Political Operations for Stephen Harper. As well as Director of Comms and National Spokesperson. Today, he’s Chair and Chief Strategy Officer at NorthStar Public Affairs.

So, with that kind of CCV ... Conservative Curriculum Vitae ... we’re going to get an operative’s perspective on the mood and moves of Canada’s Conservatives, campaigning against Carney, referendums in Alberta and Quebec – lots more.

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Originally aired May 25, 2023, this episode is rebroadcast in memory of Elly Alboim: an uncommon mind and a rare presence. Elly was brilliant, incisive, and deeply generous as a mentor and with his counsel. For anyone lucky enough to work with him, Elly was the person who could see the whole board at once. He was the person you wanted to speak last in a meeting because his opinion simply mattered most. This episode captures that gift in full for our audience. Elly died at the age of 78. 

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ORIGINAL POD DESCRIPTION: We’re bringing together 2 people —  “The Interns” — who mean a helluva lot to me in both a professional and personal sense. As mentors, colleagues, advisors and friends.

Elly Alboim and Bill Fox are here!

Both Elly and Bill are now 2-time Herle Burly guests. An honorific I’m assuming will go right to the top of their CVs. But listen up to their bona fides: Elly was a journalist for the CBC for almost a quarter century, before becoming Parliamentary Bureau Chief for TV news and National Political Editor. He was a senior advisor to Paul Martin as well as Kathleen Wynne. Today he’s an Associate Professor of Journalism at Carleton and a Principal at Earnscliffe Strategies. And he wrote a fantastic piece on today’s topic, called “Eliminating the CBC”, which you can check out at Air Quotes Media. Bill began as working journalist and became Ottawa and Washington bureau chief for The Toronto Star. He then turned his eye toward politics as Director of Communications for Prime Minister Brian Mulroney. Today, he’s got about 18 academic degrees from small shops like Harvard and Carleton, and he’s a leading analyst of media and communication. His latest book is “Trump, Trudeau, Tweets, Truth: A Conversation” which is a fantastic read.

We’re going dive into a topic that’s become quite the political battleground over the last little while: The role and importance of CBC news … How the news division is performing … the case for dismantling … other legitimate journalistic alternatives … but first, media coverage of China election interference.

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Greetings you curious, you courageous Herle Burly-ites! Courage – real courage – is a pretty valuable commodity in the current geo-political climate. Speaking out, truth telling as the situation warrants it, and according to one’s own principles, is a manifestation of that.
 
Our guest today is Jason Kenney, the 18th Premier of Alberta, and a multi-portfolio Cabinet Minister for Stephen Harper’s Conservatives from 2006-2015.
 
Jason has been nothing but forthright in his statements about Canada’s current relationship with the U.S., as well as the Trump administration’s repeated provocations and threats to our sovereignty.
 
Today we’re going to talk about:

• Trump and the MAGA movement 
• The just completed CPC Convention in Calgaryand the endorsement of Pierre Poilievre
• And, about Alberta’s separatists and the prospect of a referendum.

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Sound the horns, because we have a 3-time guest on the show today. Pollster, campaign guru, and political strategist Nick Kouvalis is here.

If you follow Nick on Twitter, you’ll know him as candid. At times, shockingly so. And perhaps never more so than this week in politics. Which is to say, Nick has been clear he’s a Conservative Party and Poilievre supporter, and he’s anti-Trump. He’s also said that Carney’s Davos speech was true in every respect and exactly what he wanted to hear from his Prime Minister in this political moment. 

So, with all that as context, and with the Conservative Convention in Calgary just days away, I want to talk to Nick, broadly, about today’s Canadian electorate, the Conservative voting coalition, and why he thinks Poilievre will be PM after the next election ... a few years from now.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! It occurs to us here at Air Quotes Media, that when the Prime Minister goes to China ... makes an historic trade deal ... and then invokes the term “New World Order” in his statement to the press – Carney said it slowly, dramatically, deliberately – you gather the most expert people you can think of and record a podcast about it, immediately.

David Mulroney and Jennifer Welsh are with me today.

David was Canada’s ambassador to the People’s Republic of China from 2009 to 2012. Prior to that he headed Canada’s office in Taiwan and served as our Senior Official for Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation. His 2016 book about our relationship with China, Middle Power, Middle Kingdom, was awarded with J.W, Dafoe Prize.

Jennifer is the Canada 150 Research Chair in Global Governance and Security at McGill University and the Director of the Max Bell School of Public Policy. She’s a Rhodes Scholar, earning a Master and Doctorate in International Relations at Oxford, and co-founded the Oxford Institute for Ethics, Law and Armed Conflict.

So today, I want to talk about what Trump, and the U.S. is saying, and doing, and the shifting world order. What might it look like? What are the implications for Canada? Can we influence it in any meaningful way? And the actions Prime Minister Carney has taken to date, the deal with China, and also his work in Europe and the Mid-East.

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Greetings and a happy 2026, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! What better way to kick off our podcast year than by convening the most popular panel we run at Air Quotes Media. So demanded by this listenership, we’ve welcomed back The Chiefs to give us their governance wisdom!

These are 3 former Chiefs of Staff to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government: Ian Brodie, Brian Topp and Tim Murphy.

Today on the show, 3 core conversations:

• I want to talk about the enormously delicate task of managing the Canada/U.S. relationship.
• Ana Bailao, Douglas Guzman, and Dawn Farrell – 3 outsiders brought in by Prime Minister Carney – each charged with a key element of the government’s agenda. How’s it going to work? Is it going to work?
• And Prime Minister Carney’s time abroad and how to run a government while he's travelling.

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. We’ll get right into it, because we have a Cabinet Minister on the Christmas pod today. And not just any Cabinet Minister ... The Honourable François-Philippe Champagne, Canada’s Minister of Finance and National Revenue!

Today marks his 2nd appearance on The Herle Burly and you all know he delivered Budget 2025 in the House, just 7 weeks ago, so that’s what we’re going to talk about for the next 45 minutes, and, in the broadest sense: the state of the economy.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. I’m looking for the most accurate adjective to sum up the year in Canadian politics. Watershed ... Pivotal ... Seismic.

They all fit to some extent. But they don’t really capture the whole of it, eh? So, the pod today is a Journalists Panel to do a fulsome Year in Review on all that went down politically across the country, in 2025.

Joining me are 3 titans of the Canadian political pen: Paul Wells, Tonda MacCharles, and Kathleen Petty.

When you’re a titan at something, and work in media to boot, you’re obviously pretty well known, so just as a primer:

Paul Wells – formerly at Maclean’s, the National Post and The Gazette. He now publishes his own brilliant and widely read newsletter: paulwells.substack.com.

Tonda MacCharles – Ottawa Bureau Chief and Senior Reporter for the Toronto Star. Spent nearly a decade on CBC’s The National and The Fifth Estate.

Kathleen Petty – Host of West of Centre Podcast. Host of Alberta at Noon. Former executive producer of CBC News Calgary and host of The House.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! We’ve got a special 2-part episode lined up for you today… a Canada-Alberta Pipeline MOU Double-Pod Double-Panel Policy & Politics Extravaganza!

Unwieldy name, I know. But it’s apt because we’re going to look at the thing through the lens of both policy and politics with 2 different panels for a wide-ranging discussion and a diversity of strategic perspectives.

First up ... our MOU Policy Panel:

• Rick Smith – President of the Canadian Climate Institute, and central to numerous policy advances, provincially and federally, over his 25-year career.
• Mark Podlasly – Chief Executive Officer of First Nations Major Projects Coalition.
• And Heather Exner-Pirot – senior fellow and director of energy, natural resources and environment at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute in Ottawa.

Then ... our MOU Political Panel: 

• Mike McDonald – Air Quotes Media alumnus, co-host of the Hotel Pacifico pod and Partner, Chief Strategy Officer at Kirk & Co.
• Cheryl Oates – Principal and advisor at GT&Co, and co-host of The Discourse podcast.
• And André Pratte – Strategist at Catalyze4, former non-partisan member of the Senate, and chief editorial writer at La Presse from 2001-2015.

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. The Honourable Susan Holt, Premier of New Brunswick, the one and only remaining Liberal Premier in Canada, has graciously made time for us today.

I don’t want to give too much of this away because I want to talk more about her life and why she got into politics, but Premier Holt became the 35th, and the first woman Premier of New Brunswick, just over 13 months ago. Prior to that, she had been leading of the Official Opposition Liberal Party in the Legislative Assembly since 2023.  She’s been a business leader. A champion of community involvement. And spent many years working with government on economic policy.

So again, we’ll do a deeper dive into Premier Holt’s bio today, and what animates her political life. We’ll talk about the front burner political issues in New Brunswick. I want to get her thoughts on Prime Minister Carney’s national economic plan and Budget 2025. And then we’ll do a bit on Federal/Provincial relations.

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! So, about 8 weeks ago I started in on a book, and I could NOT put it down. What makes “The Coutts Diaries: Power, Politics and Pierre Trudeau” so compelling, is that it is what it says it is ... a written diary of exactly what when on in the backrooms of power during most of Pierre Trudeau’s 15 years as Prime Minister. 

It’s not conjecture. It’s not speculation. It’s the record. 

Meticulously transcribed – candid detail by candid detail – by Trudeau’s Principal Secretary, Jim Coutts, one of the most powerful men in Canada, in his private diary.

Today on the pod, the man who breathed life into those diaries over 40 years after the last entry, editing it all into one astonishing volume. Author and journalist: Ron Graham.

Ron is a multi-award winner and the man responsible for one of my favourite books on Canadian politics, “One-Eyed Kings”. Other notable works are “The French Quarter” and “The Last Act: Pierre Trudeau, the Gang of Eight, and the Fight for Canada.” He also edited “Straight from the Heart and My Years as Prime Minister, the memoirs of Rt. Hon. Jean Chrétien”.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! This week – making their now regular quarterly appearance on the pod – I give you The Chiefs: Ian Brodie, Tim Murphy, and Brian Topp!

Ottawa is pretty much laser-focused on the budget these days – the substance and the politics surrounding it – and that’s what we’re primarily going to spend the hour on today. Plus, the resurgence of industrial policy, effectiveness of the Major Projects Office, managing floor crossers while in government, managing unrest in caucus, and leadership’s attempts to deal with it all.

So, join me in welcoming back 3 former Chiefs of Staff to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government:

Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin … now, EVP and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON.

Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta … Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan … a co-architect of Jack Layton’s Orange Wave. Today ... he’s a founding partner at GT&co.

Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper and central to the founding of the CPC.  Now … Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary, and Senior Advisor at New West Public Affairs.

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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites, there’ll be no intro grasping at humour today. I can’t compete. Too intimidated. Because our guest on the pod is genuine Canadian comedy royalty: Mark Critch!

The co-creator, star and co-writer of the hit CBC series “Son of a Critch” based on his best-selling memoir. For 22 seasons, a cast member and writer of CBC's longest running comedy series, “This Hour Has 22 Minutes.”  The recipient of 6 Canadian Screen Awards and three Gemini Awards. A best-selling author, including the aforementioned “Son of a Critch” and “An Embarrassment of Critch’s” ... and he’s got a new book coming out later this month: “Sorry, Not Sorry. An Unapologetic Look at What Makes Canada Worth Fighting For” -- preorder here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/747434/sorry-not-sorry-by-mark-critch/9780735249547

So, we’re going to talk to Mark a little bit more about his background and how Canada has always punched above its weight, comedically. And, especially in light of today’s climate, I want to have a conversation about political humour and satire. Has it changed through the years? What’s its function in a healthy democracy? Does political humour have bigger role to play in what feels like a burgeoning autocracy? Trump pressure and fear got Stephen Colbert cancelled.  Kimmel teetered on the brink for about a week. But South Park has been relentlessly attacking Trump and his minions, weekly, and it’s never been more popular. Mark’s own Trump sketches on “22 minutes” have tens of millions views on Tik Tok. We’ll talk about all of that and more.

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Tuesday this week was budget day, the Carney government’s long-awaited, first. And as we typically do when there’s a fresh budget to pick apart – we’ve assembled the policy panel for our very own Herle Burly Budget Lock-up.

 Dr. Jennifer Robson, Tyler Meredith and Ben Woodfinden are here to give us their review of Budget 2025.

You loyal Herle Burly-ites know Jennifer and Tyler well ... but Ben is new to the panel, so I’m going to start the bona fides with him.

Only one month ago, he joined Meredith, Boessenkool & Phillips as a Senior Advisor and Director of their new premium policy intelligence service, MBP Intelligence.  Over his career, he’s provided advice, translated policy and shaped messaging in the highest stakes political environments, most recently as Director of Comms for Pierre Poilievre. 

Jennifer has served in senior roles in policy development and research with the Federal Government. She’s now Program Director and Associate Professor of Political Management at Carleton University, and a fellow of the Public Policy Forum

And Tyler is the former Head of Fiscal and Economic Policy for Prime Minister Trudeau and Ministers of Finance, Chrystia Freeland and Bill Morneau. Today, he’s a Founding Partner at Meredith/Boessenkool & Phillips Policy Advisors.

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