In this episode, Halle Tecco sits down with John Mackey, founder and former CEO of Whole Foods Market. Mackey discusses his new venture, Love.Life, that aims to do for healthcare what Whole Foods did for grocery shopping.

We cover:

• His vision for rethinking the healthcare experience
• What he learned about healthcare running a self-insured employer
• How Whole Foods gamified employee health
• His views on healthcare regulation and personal responsibility
• Why he doesn't believe in market research
• His advice for entrepreneurs taking on venture capital funding

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Your September Digital Health Download is here! This month, Steve and Halle discuss:

• TEFCA
• How employers are getting sued for mismanaging health plans
• Why virtual care is way up in rural America
• The TruePill / LetsGetChecked merger
• J&J taking aim at hospital drug-discount programs
• What happens to compounding startups now that the end of drug shortages is in sight

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Celebrating three years of The Heart of Healthcare, Halle and Steve dive into the latest news and trends in digital health for July 2024.

July highlights include:

• A new Peterson Institute report on digital treatment outcomes for musculoskeletal conditions
• The FDA's guidance on improving diversity in clinical trial enrollment
• The economic impact and legal battles surrounding GLP-1 drugs for obesity
• Walgreens' pullback from healthcare services and concerns about the sustainability of the current pharmacy model
• A Washington state study on utilizing pharmacists to treat minor illnesses
• The U.S. Surgeon General's advisory on social media's effects on youth mental health

Show notes:

• Mural Health effort to increase diversity in clinical trials
• The U.S. Surgeon General’s Advisory: Social Media and Youth Mental Health

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It’s National Nurses Week! As the most trusted profession for the last 20 years, nurses make up the highest percentage of the US healthcare workforce and serve as the primary providers of patient care. But we’re facing a nursing crisis and looming shortage.

In this episode, McKinsey Partner and former nurse Gretchen Berlin shares the challenges the profession is facing, and what’s needed to turn things around (not a parade).

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Decades of public health efforts to curb teen smoking have unraveled since Juul and other e-cigarette brands came on the market in 2015. With sketchy ads targeting youth and flavor names like “gummy bear” and “cool cucumber”, vaping has skyrocketed amongst youth. In fact, 10%-24% of high school students are now addicted to nicotine. In this episode, Dr. Susan Walley, Chief of the Division of Hospital Medicine at Children's National Hospital, discusses her work developing effective healthcare and school-based interventions to reduce youth tobacco use.

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Just because a computer isn’t running a Windows operating system doesn’t mean it’s broken, it’s just different. Same goes for people who are “neurodivergent”, a term used to describe any kind of divergence from dominant cultural norms of neurocognitive functioning. This can include people living with autism, ADHD, OCD, epilepsy, synesthesia, dyslexia, and more. In this episode, special guest host Marissa Pittard (who is neurodivergent herself, and the co-founder of Beaming Health) interviews actor Major Dodson about life on the spectrum. 

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For decades, the U.S. has been forcibly sterilizing women of color, taking away their basic human right to become a parent. It’s happening in prisons and immigration detention centers, where doctors are performing unwarranted hysterectomies and bilateral tubal ligation without proper consent. Last year, California announced it would pay out millions of dollars to living survivors of the state’s forced sterilization efforts. Co-sponsor of the bill, Laura Jimenez, Executive Director of California Latinas for Reproductive Justice, explains the racist, classist, ableist history of forced sterilization and why it’s still happening today. 

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LGBTQ+ people face worse health outcomes in our country due to a long history of oppression and discrimination. Dr. Mitchell Lunn is a physician and researcher of sexual and gender minority populations (SGM) at Stanford University. In this episode, he explains what health equity means for SGM people, and what we can do to be better allies. 

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Fentanyl is now the leading cause of death in 18-45-year-olds in the US, claiming more lives than car crashes and gun violence combined. After Dr. Beth Weinstock lost her son last year to what she calls “the most devastating health crisis this generation has ever seen,” she decided to do something about it. In this episode, Dr. Weinstock explains how a harm-reduction approach can protect young people from accidental fentanyl poisoning.

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In wartime, the dismantling of healthcare services due to destroyed infrastructure, understaffed hospitals, supply chain issues, and drug shortages often kill far more people than bombs and bullets. These effects linger long after the war has ended. And they impact the health and wellbeing of entire generations of people. In this episode, we share an overview of the situation in Ukraine from a healthcare perspective and how you can help. 

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In celebration of National Nutrition Month, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Michael Moss explains how the big food industry uses science and marketing schemes to get us hooked on unhealthy food products. They then sell us diet fads that don't work. Michael Moss is the author of "Salt Sugar Fat" and "Hooked." He was formerly an investigative journalist for the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.

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Charlamagne Tha God is a multimedia mogul, Radio Hall of Fame inductee, bestselling author, and one of the most influential thought leaders in modern culture. He explains how his mental health struggles led him to start the Mental Wealth Alliance to destigmatize, accelerate, and center state-of-the-art mental health outreach and care, building an unprecedented long-term system of generational support for Black communities.

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February is Cancer Prevention Month. Nearly 40% of Americans will be diagnosed with cancer at some point during their lifetimes. The good news is that continued advancements in medical research have led to more people surviving cancer. But what if we could prevent cancer altogether? Is it possible? In this episode, Jody Hoyos, President and Chief Operating Officer of the Prevent Cancer Foundation, discusses cancer prevention and early detection.

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In this episode, Halle Tecco talks to Emily Oster— health communicator, health economist, and bestselling author. Emily shares her journey from academia to becoming an influential health communicator, advocating for data-driven decision making and empowering individuals to make informed choices about their health.

We cover:

• Her non-didactic approach to helping people make their own best decisions
• Her least favorite types of panic headlines, and how no one would thrive on Doritos® dust
• Pros and cons of the Open Access movement
• Combating publication bias
• Speaking up on controversial topics
• Advice for building trust, combating misinformation, and improving health communication

Emily is on a mission to empower parents by providing the data and tools they need to make confident decisions. After getting a PhD in economics from Harvard, she went on to pursue research in health economics and is now a professor of economics at Brown University. As a mom of two, Emily was inspired by her own pregnancy and the lack of clear information to guide her decisions. She decided to use her expertise in reviewing and analyzing data to help other parents navigate these topics. She is a New York Times best-selling author, whose books include Expecting Better, Cribsheet, The Family Firm and The Unexpected.

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The R-word is a form of hate speech that has been used to describe people with intellectual disabilities. Today’s guest, Jamie Brewer, is a successful actress and model who is also an advocate for differently-abled people. Not only was she the first person with Down syndrome to walk the runway at New York Fashion Week, but she also successfully persuaded Texas state senators to remove the R-word in any official use.

This episode is hosted in partnership with The BodCon 2022, a live virtual conference on February 27th that's focused on body confidence and the movement towards radical self-acceptance, at which Jamie will be speaking about disability pride. For more information, visit thebodcon.com

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Mark Cuban was horrified at how many Americans struggle to pay for their medications, which are are 250% more expensive in the U.S. than in other OECD nations. In this episode, he shares the details of his new online pharmacy for generic drugs that offers steep discounts. The Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company cuts out the middle-man, charging customers a transparent price that is equal to the manufacturers' price, plus a flat 15% markup.

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Generic medications, which represent 90% of the prescriptions filled in the US, are largely manufactured overseas. Some leaders are questioning our over-reliance on pharmaceuticals produced abroad, saying it creates vulnerable supply chains that pose serious risks to national security. In this episode, scientist and entrepreneur Hitha Palepu explains the problem with generic drugs and what we can do about it.

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The COVID-19 pandemic has upended our lives in many frustrating ways, for a lot longer than we'd hoped. Which begs the question: Is this just our life now? In this episode, Dr. Bob Wachter, chair of the University of California San Francisco Department of Medicine, answers all the questions that have been weighing on our conscience. He also explains his predictions for spring and summer.

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In this episode, Dr. Ebony Jade Hilton talks about her advocacy for a more equitable healthcare system. Dr. Hilton is an anesthesiologist at the University of Virginia and the first Black woman anesthesiologist at Medical University of South Carolina since it opened. Dr. Hilton’s work extends far beyond the walls of the hospital. She is a vocal supporter of health equity, advocating for underserved and marginalized populations. 

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Each year motor vehicle crashes take the lives of more than 40,000 people in the United States, and result in 2.7 million emergency department visits. Car crashes are the third leading cause of death for people under 55 and cost us $463 billion in wage and productivity losses, medical expenses, admin expenses, and property damage.

The thing about car accidents is that they are not accidents. They are completely preventable events, but reducing them requires collaboration between car manufacturers, policymakers, the justice system, and the healthcare system which deals with the aftermath. There are people working at this intersection who have dedicated their lives to making our roads safer. Today’s guest is Debbie Hersman, a transportation and safety expert. She was previously the Chief Safety Officer and Senior Advisor to Waymo, Google's self-driving car project. She served as the CEO of the National Safety Council as a board member of the National Transportation Safety Board, and was nominated by both President Bush and President Obama and unanimously confirmed by the Senate four times. 

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In this special episode of The Heart of Healthcare, we talk with Julia Cheek about how women's healthcare needs are often ignored and how we can upend the paternalistic system to achieve health equity. Julia Cheek is the CEO and Founder of Everly Health, a fully integrated digital care platform.

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In this episode, Dr. Lucy Kalanithi delves into her journey of becoming a doctor and her personal experience with losing her husband. Dr. Kalanithi is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine at Stanford and the widow of Dr. Paul Kalanithi, author of the bestselling memoir "When Breath Becomes Air," to which she wrote the epilogue. Dr. Kalanithi has implemented novel health care delivery models in primary care hospitals and health systems and serves as the host of the podcast 'Gravity' which explores narratives of suffering.

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Live from the Rock Health Virtual Summit, Dr. Nzinga Harrison puts addiction and substance use disorder into context. She also explains how an evidence-based and compassionate harm-reduction approach can lead to better health outcomes. Nzinga Harrison, MD, FASAM is the Chief Medical Officer and Co-Founder of Eleanor Health, a company built on equity and justice developing mental health medical homes for those affected by substance use disorders.

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October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and in this episode, we’ll dissect how a pandemic, economic shock, and civil unrest compounded domestic violence risk factors and reduced access to resources.

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The U.S. Surgeon General's office recently published an advisory report stating "social media can have a profound risk of harm to the mental health and well-being of children and adolescents." In this episode, we revisit our conversation with Frances Haugen, former Facebook product manager and internationally recognized whistleblower.

Frances provides an inside look into how tech giants prioritize profits over public safety. Her journey from Meta's inner workings to testifying before world parliaments sparked a global conversation about social media's role and regulation - a dialogue now echoed at the highest levels of public health.

This episode explores the pressing issues of our digital era that are now receiving official recognition. Learn about the impact of social media on young people's mental well-being, providing context to the Surgeon General's warnings. Frances shares critical concerns and her ideas for safeguards for young people. This is a must listen for anyone with children in their lives!

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In this episode, youth sex educator Nora Gelperin dives into the good and bad of sex education today. Nora is the director of Sexuality Education and Training at Advocates for Youth. She is also a proponent of evidence-based sex education, supported by leading professional organizations including the AMA, ACOG, APHA, and the American Academy of Pediatrics. 

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In this episode, LaShyra "Lash" Nolen talks about the future of medical education and care. Lash is a medical student, Fulbright scholar, science communicator, and the Founder of the non-profit We Got Us. She currently serves as the first Black woman to become class president of the Harvard Medical School.

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In this episode, HaeSung Han, founder of POETIC, explains how vulnerable youth are at risk of exploitation like sexual abuse and sex trafficking. POETIC builds a pipeline out of the juvenile justice system and into intensive aftercare for girls who have been exploited and trafficked.

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In this episode, Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal shares a treatment plan for our healthcare system. Elisabeth is an ER doctor turned reporter. She's the author of the New York Times bestselling book, An American Sickness: How Healthcare Became Big Business and How You Can Take it Back. Her book reveals the dangerous, expensive, and dysfunctional American healthcare system, and tells us exactly what we can do to fix it. Dr. Rosenthal spent 22 years as a correspondent at the New York Times before joining Kaiser Health News as Editor-in-Chief in 2016. 

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In this episode, Dr. Charity Dean walks us through the early days of COVID-19. She was told not to use the word "pandemic" because it could scare people, but sounded alarms anyway. Dr. Dean served as the Assistant Director for the California Department of Public Health. She was a key member of the executive team directing the COVID-19 outbreak response from the high-level overview, to tactical operations, to co-founding and leading the Testing Task Force. She is currently the Founder & CEO of The Public Health Company. Dr. Dean is also the protagonist in Michael Lewis's new book 'The Premonition.'

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In this episode, Dr. Margot Kushel explains the country’s rise in homelessness and the critical impact of housing on the health needs of vulnerable populations. Dr. Margot Kushel is the director of the UCSF Center for Vulnerable Populations. Her research focuses on reducing the burden of homelessness on health through examining efforts to prevent and end homelessness and mitigating the effects of housing instability on health care outcomes.

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In this episode, emergency room physician Dr. Megan Ranney explains how gun violence is a public health crisis, and what she's doing to help end it. Dr. Ranney is a respected researcher, emergency physician, and advocate in the injury prevention and digital health field. She is a Professor at Brown University, and the co-founder of AFFIRM, the American Foundation for Firearm Injury Reduction in Medicine.

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In this episode, Dr. John Brownstein explains his work as a Digital Epidemiologist (not a finger doctor!) Dr. Brownstein has led projects like HealthMap.org, which offers real-time intelligence on emerging infectious diseases; Street Rx, which crowdsources the black market for prices of prescription drugs; and most recently VaccineFinder.org. Dr. John Brownstein is the Chief Innovation Officer at Boston Children’s Hospital and a Professor at Harvard Medical School.

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In this episode, Catherine Coleman Flowers (the “Erin Brockovich of Sewage”) explains how crumbling infrastructure causes toxic sewage spills in the backyards of poor, rural communities. Flowers also talks about how she discovered an outbreak of an intestinal, blood-feeding parasite we thought had been eradicated in the United States. Catherine Coleman Flowers is a MacArthur 'Genius' grant winner, the founder of the Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice, and the author of Waste: One Woman’s Fight Against America’s Dirty Secret.

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In this episode, Glen Tullman reflects on the biggest changes he's seen in healthcare during his 40-year career in the industry. Glen is the founder and CEO of Transcarent, former founder and CEO of Livongo, and managing partner at 7wireVentures. He discusses:

- His early days revolutionizing e-prescribing and electronic health records at Allscripts

- Building Livongo into an $18.5 billion digital health success story

- Lessons learned as a serial entrepreneur and investor with 7wireVentures

- His vision for Transcarent as a consumer-directed healthcare navigation platform

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In this episode, Zach Reitano, CEO and co-founder of the direct-to-patient healthcare company Ro, talks to host Halle Tecco about the flaws in our traditional healthcare model and how Ro is innovating to make care more convenient and focused on patient goals.

We cover:

• Why the current healthcare system does not incentivize building for patients
• How he ranks the priorities of cost, quality, and access
• How the healthcare system is obsessed with quality, but not equally obsessed with scaling that quality
• Why we can't equate healthcare quality and time spent, and the role of technology to increase access to the highest quality products

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In this episode, Halle Tecco and Steve Kraus cover the latest digital health stories for June 2024, including:

• Cancer drug dosing and pricing challenges
• The new South Park movie on obesity
• The shortage of K-12 school counselors and telehealth startups’ role
• The failure of SPAC deals in digital health, and the path forward
• Pharma's DTC marketing efforts, including Pfizer's new platform and updated FTC advertising rules
• Flaws in the media coverage of declining total fertility rates

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Clinical notes are one of the more tedious parts of doctors’ day-to-day lives—so much so that they’re often called “pajama time,” since physicians spend 2-3 hours writing them at night. In this episode, Steve Kraus sits down with Dr. Shiv Rao, co-founder and CEO of Abridge, an AI-first healthcare company that’s been in the spotlight for solving this problem. Abridge uses advanced machine learning to structure and summarize medical conversations, creating clinical documentation and structured data while reducing clinician burnout.

Shiv traces his journey from a skateboarding rebel to a cardiologist, professor, healthcare investor, and now founder of a pioneering digital health startup. He shares how his passion for scalable impact and exposure to cutting-edge research at Carnegie Mellon led him to start Abridge in 2018.

Steve and Shiv discuss:

• How Abridge differentiated itself early on through AI technology and go-to-market (GTM) strategy
• The company’s ROI and anti-burnout metrics, like note quality, pajama time, and cognitive load
• Clinician-AI collaboration vs. direct-to-consumer applications
• The surprising parallels between managing an ICU and running a startup
• The habits and mindsets that keep Shiv grounded while leading a fast-growing, mission-driven company

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May is Mental Health Awareness Month!

In this episode (a replay from Closing Time), David Ko, CEO of Calm, discusses the mental health challenges founders and their teams face. We discuss practical strategies for building resilience, managing the relentless pressure, and why destigmatizing mental health is crucial for startup success. David shares how leaders can champion well-being, creating a workplace where mental health support is the norm, not the exception. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who believes building a thriving business starts with a healthy mindset.

We cover:

• How resilience is built through learning from mistakes and taking risks
• Where stress comes from and if you can really eliminate it
• How to lead by example and create a supportive work environment
• Generational shifts in the conversation around mental health
• Why mental health should be normalized throughout the year and not just during Mental Health Awareness Month

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May is Women's Health Awareness Month!

In this episode, Kate Ryder, CEO and founder of Maven, the largest virtual clinic for women and families, shares her passion for transforming a traditionally underserved healthcare sector. We explore how Maven Clinic has evolved since her seed pitch in 2016, and what she’s learned along the way.

We cover:

• How Maven has evolved from an online marketplace for women to connect with healthcare specialists to a comprehensive platform for women's and family health
• How language and terminology (even the term “women's health”) can be challenging
• Emerging trends in women's health including the need for better support for Medicaid members and the growing mental health crisis among teenagers
• How egg freezing can contribute to gender equality in the workplace
• Kate’s wishes for improving the US healthcare system, like Medicaid coverage for new moms and universal pre-K to support working families

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80% of Americans suffering from eating disorders don’t get the treatment they need. That’s where Equip comes in. In this episode, Steve Kraus sits down with Kristina Saffran, the co-founder and CEO of Equip, a virtual provider transforming eating disorder treatment by making evidence-based care more accessible to patients and families. Kristina shares her personal journey recovering from anorexia and how her experience with the challenges in traditional treatment led her to found a non-profit and ultimately start Equip. She and Steve dive into:

• Misconceptions about eating disorders and the barriers that prevent the vast majority of sufferers from getting treatment
• Equip's virtual, multidisciplinary five-person care team model
• The company's focus on delivering evidence-based treatment while pioneering new research to improve outcomes
• The importance of collaborating with insurance payers to improve access and reduce costs
• Kristina's advice for mission-driven healthcare entrepreneurs

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In this episode, Dr. Jon Cohen, CEO of Talkspace, discusses his unconventional journey from vascular surgeon to leading a publicly traded digital health company.

We cover:

• The glass ceiling for physicians, and why people wrongly think physicians can’t run businesses
• His run for Lieutenant Governor of New York, and why more physicians should get involved with politics
• The role of online therapy in making mental healthcare more accessible and affordable
• How Talkspace is leveraging AI to detect suicide risk, support therapists, and enhance patient care
• The challenges and opportunities of running a public company, especially one that went public via SPAC
• His insights on the future of healthcare and the importance of physician leadership in driving change

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Digital Health Download: May 2024

In this episode, Halle and Steve dive into the latest headlines in digital health for May 2024, covering topics like surprise billing, AI in healthcare, and the future of primary care. They cover:

- A ProPublica investigation into Cigna's claims and prior authorization processes

- The FTC's new non-compete agreement ban, and what it means for healthcare

- Walmart's decision to shutter its health clinics, and the viability of retail primary care

- A new study on using generative AI to draft physician replies to patient messages

- Nurses' protests against the rapid adoption of AI technology at Kaiser Permanente

- An Atlantic article on the coming revolution in male contraceptives

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Too often, those with complex health needs fall through the cracks. Dr. Toyin Ajayi, co-founder and CEO of Cityblock Health, is a passionate champion for health equity determined to change this reality. Her company specifically serves populations with Medicare, Medicaid, or both, often those who have been let down by the traditional healthcare system.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why "one size fits all" healthcare fails our most vulnerable, leaving them feeling overwhelmed and underserved
• How Cityblock's community health partners build trust and address health and social needs
• The privatization of Medicare
• Why she believes in the private sector to help fix healthcare

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As a medical school-bound undergrad, Sean Duffy, co-founder and CEO of Omada Health, didn’t initially consider entrepreneurship as a career path. Today, Sean leads a virtual-first care provider for chronic conditions like diabetes, hypertension, and musculoskeletal disorders. Sean traces his journey from a "techie" upbringing to stints at Google and medical school, and how his early fascination with the potential of digital health ultimately led him to build Omada.

Sean and Steve dive into:

-The genesis of Omada's "digital DPP" (diabetes prevention program) model

-How digital health has matured over the last decade

-Omada’s approach to driving successful GLP-1 prescription outcomes

-The Peterson report questioning the efficacy of diabetes tech

-Sean's advice for aspiring entrepreneurs

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Ever feel like you're lost in the healthcare maze, fighting for answers alone? Turns out, you're not. Patient communities are fueling a revolution that's changing healthcare. In this episode, Susannah Fox, author of Rebel Health, reveals how patients and caregivers are driving innovation that the traditional system can't, or won't, deliver.

We cover:

• The Four Patient Archetypes: Seeker, Networker, Solver, and Champion--which one are you?
• Why certain populations get ignored, and how to change that
• How founders can leverage patient power to build better, more impactful solutions
• The debate over whether (and how) patients should be compensated for collaborating with companies

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In this episode, Halle Tecco and Steve Kraus discuss the latest news and trends in digital health in April 2024.

They cover:

• Controversial Peterson report about the effectiveness of diabetes management solutions 
• Rock Health's latest survey data on consumer digital health adoption
• The FDA's recent approval of Dexcom's Stelo, the first OTC continuous glucose monitor
• The rise of nurse practitioner entrepreneurship
• Specialized and value-based care headlines

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In this episode, Steve Kraus talks with Joanna Strober, co-founder and CEO of Midi Health, a virtual healthcare platform specifically for women in midlife (ages 35-65). Midi Health is a virtual care clinic created by specialists in perimenopause and menopause to address the massive unmet needs of women in this demographic.

Joanna explains why women often lose touch with an OBGYN after child-bearing years but don't get the care they need from primary care physicians. She shares insights on her current company's impressive retention and patient outcomes, plus lessons learned from her previous digital health startup, Kurbo Health, which focused on childhood obesity.

As a former investor at Bessemer Venture Partners, Joanna reflects on what entrepreneurs should expect from their investors. As a mother, Joanna discusses the importance of resilience, prioritization, and partnership in enabling women to thrive as parents and professionals.

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In February, Change Healthcare, the largest processor of medical claims in the U.S., was hit by a devastating cyberattack. Some are even calling it the most significant and consequential cyberattack on our healthcare system in American history. The fallout exposed deep vulnerabilities in healthcare infrastructure and how healthcare data is protected, highlighting the fragility of a system built on fragmented networks and a patchwork of cybersecurity measures.

In this episode, Washington Post national health reporter Dan Diamond helps us understand the fallout of the Change Healthcare hack, digging into the consequences for providers, patients, and the industry at large.

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In this episode, Dr. Allie Sharma shares her expertise on the fascinating topic of using ketamine infusion therapy and other psychedelic treatments to treat mental health conditions.

As an experienced psychiatrist and the co-founder of Being Health, Dr. Sharma explains how ketamine, a well-established anesthetic medicine, has shown remarkable promise in treating treatment-resistant depression. Dr. Sharma provides a comprehensive walkthrough of a ketamine therapy session, from the preparation phase to the infusion itself, what it's like for the patient, and the crucial integration sessions that follow.

We also explore the latest research and evidence surrounding its effectiveness and other psychedelic treatments being researched. Whether you're a healthcare professional, a patient, or simply someone interested in the fascinating field of psychedelic medicine, this episode is sure to captivate and inform.

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