Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Today we tackle the hard problem of scaling with Rollups, among other conversations. We’re re-joinbed by Shehzan, a Bitcoin builder focusing on borrowing and lending protocols on top of Bitcoin, and Shinobi, an out-spoken Bitcoiner and technical editor at Bitcoin Magazine.  Follow our guest on Twitter: @marediashehzan @brian_trollz Timestamps: 00:00 Start 02:12 L2s on Bitcoin 05:10 Do fees & speed effect payment adoption? 06:26 Why does lightning suck? 11:06 Lightning failed experiment? 12:21 Taproot assets on Lightning 15:59 Should stablecoins be on L1? 19:28 Stables are #1 use case 21:12 Roll ups 27:51 Why are devs interested in roll ups? 30:27 What roll ups are ready today? 36:26 Liquidity problems? 37:49 Other roll up limitations? 38:41 Roll up use case? 41:04 Are roll ups just a sneaky block size increase? 44:19 One roll up to rule them all 45:41 Do roll ups scale execution on BTC? 47:14 Single sequencer risk 50:12 Is Lightning "connective tissue"? 51:19 Unilateral exit in roll ups 53:09 Upgrades in roll ups 57:07 CATVM 1:00:18 New OP codes & scaling 1:06:58 Why will BTC expressivity be useful 1:08:19 VC backed projects pushing new OP codes 1:10:08 What is ARK? 1:14:47 MEV on Bitcoin 1:21:49 What roll ups will cause problems? 1:23:46 What roll ups have traction? 1:27:40 Are covenants on a deadline? 1:29:16 What's interesting right now? 1:30:12 The possibilities of eCash 1:32:49 Is Austrian Economics dumb? 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Today we are joined by Shehzan, a Bitcoin builder focusing on borrowing and lending protocols on top of Bitcoin. While most people think of Bitcoin as a dumb rock, the Lava team led by Shehzan is working on a novel solution to natively lend and borrow (while maintaining self-custody but we’ll let him explain that) on Bitcoin. Lava uses Discreet Log Contracts (DCLs) to thread the needle of both permissionless capital via DeFi markets and Bitcoin self-sovereignty via self-custody. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:56 Who is Shehzan? 01:29 Why no BTC lending yet? 02:29 What are DLCs? 04:19 Lava vs other lending protocols 05:30 P2P loans complications 06:59 Deposit & loan process 09:20 Privacy implications 11:32 Wrapped BTC 12:44 User risk profile 14:57 Fixed rate loans 17:53 Who are the lenders? 18:19 Oracles 19:42 Choosing oracles 20:49 Rates 22:11 Loan durations 23:13 Target user 25:33 Other chains? 27:21 Solana outages 28:41 Other DLC uses 30:13 Building in Bitcoin experience 32:19 Lightning 33:06 Lack of BTC spending 35:07 Bitcoin's monetary properties 37:48 Wrapped BTC and custodians 41:45 Bitcoin scaling 43:45 OP Codes 46:42 Not enough core devs 47:58 Stablecoins 51:50 Tokenized assets 53:08 Solana vibes Follow our host: @gwartygwart Follow our guest on Twitter: @marediashehzan 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Benedict Brady from Ergonia and Doug Colkitt from Ambient Finance join The Gwart Show, covering various aspects of decentralized finance (DeFi), high frequency trading (HFT), and automated market makers (AMMs).  Follow our guests on Twitter: @0xdoug @bqbrady Follow Gwart and the podcast: @gwartygwart @blockspacepod Timestamps: 00:00:30 Guest Introductions 00:02:13 HFT, AMMs and CLOBs 00:9:10 Improving the Ethereum L1 for apps  00:18:10 zkEVMs, validator and rollups  00:22:021 Trading on AMMs 00:24:55 Why AMMs on Solana? 00:35:03 MEV  00:40:00 Is ~any~ MEV illegal? 00:47:16 Everything will run on AMMs?  00:52:55 Block builder centralization 01:00:40 What if tradfi built blocks? 01:02:08 Solana orderflow is a goldmine 01:05:30 Stakeweight QS 01:10:35 Memecoins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Walt Smith of Cyber Fund joins The Gwart Show, sharing his take on venture capital in the crypto–and specifically Bitcoin–space. He discusses the potential of Bitcoin rollups, the future of Ethereum, and the drama among crypto VCs. Walt also dives into the idea of merge mining as a scaling solution for Bitcoin and shares his thoughts on the end game of tokenization. Chapter Markers: 00:00 Start 01:22 Walt's background 02:45 Working at Galaxy 04:22 Major investments 05:36 Restaking 08:19 Multi-asset pool model 10:55 Open infrastructure "free banking" 13:47 Are DOAs dumb? 20:24 Tokenizing equities 26:32 Interest in Bitcoin 29:50 ETH minimum viable issuance 35:22 Lido DOA 40:15 Restaking controversy 44:11 VC cat fights 50:04 Bitcoin season 2 53:04 Bitcoin L2 VC investments 55:51 Merge mining Bitcoin 58:22 Bitcoin covenants 03:34 Attrition to L2 on Bitcoin 08:28 BTC vs ETH in 10 years 13:49 realistic growth projections 17:03 Wrap up Follow our guest on Twitter: @waltjsmith Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to the Gwart Show! This week, Gwart sits down with Janus of the Bitcoin Layers team to discuss–well you probably get it. Still, they do go over Bitcoin sidechains, L2 approaches, tokens & dapps and what not on L2s , if this Zk thing makes sense, CatVM and more. Do we really want this and what do we want are frequently asked questions! Published weekly on Sunday afternoons, "The Gwart Show” gets to the bottom of crypto’s toughest topics. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:32 Janusz background 02:32 Sidechains on Bitcoin 06:29 New L2s? 11:36 L2 approaches 17:25 ETH vs BTC L2s 19:00 Non-updateable contracts 22:09 No receiving BTC on L2s without trust? 23:02 L2 onboarding without L1? 27:28 L2 product market fit? 33:04 L2 app wish list 37:34 VCs love shitcoining on Bitcoin 40:21 L2s tokens, seriously? 45:33 Decentralization & tokens 49:59 L2 interoperability 55:11 ZK tech & proof verification 58:43 Forking bitcoin 03:30 CATVM 05:14 WTF do we REALLY want? 10:20 MEV on L2s 18:07 Direct L2 onboarding 21:31 Wen stablecoins on BTC? 26:35 Gradual dedollarization please! 28:12 Wrap up This show is produced by Blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! This week, Job Charbonneau of crypto venture fund DBA joins Gwart to discuss Ethereum's issuance debate, centralization of stake, roll-ups vs. Solana, the future of DeFi on Bitcoin, solving MEV, crypto's VC landscape shifts, and key insights from his recent Research Day event.  Follow our guest on Twitter: @jon_charb Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:45 Jon's background 01:19 Research Day 03:21 Favorite Research Day talk 06:07 Current VC crypto landscape 10:54 Wen Uncommon Core? 11:46 Why ETH issuance changes? 14:13 Why mess around with issuance? 17:43 Concentration of stake 19:05 Economic security 22:03 Appreciating proof of work 24:43 We knew this would happen! 27:46 Restaking 34:43 Restaking predictions 37:00 MEV & order-flow 40:52 Why does this taste like a sandwich? 45:32 Should we seek to fix MEV? 48:02 MEV proposals 51:06 Rollup problems 56:28 Rollup interoperability dreams 1:00:50 Solana 1:04:07 Defi  Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! This week, Colluding Node from the Celestia joins Gwart to unravel the mystery of memecoins, stablecoins, governance tokens, Ethereum scaling via grifters and how Celestia works under the hood. Gwart and C-Node talk about like 20+ blockchains in this podcast so it probably has something for everyone. Follow our guest on Twitter: @colludingnode Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Timestamps: 00:00:00 Start 01:29:09 What are blockchains good for? 02:29:16 Evolving understanding of blockchains 05:34:17 Bullish ETH? 08:37:21 The future of DeFi 10:50:08 DeFi privacy 14:20:12 Are meme coins the final boss of stupid? 15:54:19 Permissionless 18:39:19 Are lobbyists focusing on the right things? 21:44:16 Are lobbyists serving plebs or companies? 24:03:17 Companies don't care about P2P tnxs 25:52:17 Centralized stablecoins 28:30:16 Stablecoins > Crypto? 30:06:02 Money separated from state 31:52:28 Maker DAI 34:12:29 Governance tokens 37:24:02 No governance not MORE governance 40:00:10 ETH scaling w/ grifters 41:45:11 Solution to confusing scaling? 43:54:01 Solana reservations 47:14:14 Solana nodes 48:50:25 Celestia light clients 50:51:19 Light clients & trust assumptions 52:27:21 Celestia's vision? 54:25:07 Sovereign roll ups on Celestia 56:34:11 Appchains? 57:28:08 Defi interoperability Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dean Eigenmann, a Miner Extractable Value (MEV) searcher, joins The Gwart Show to give an insiders look into the MeV landscape, strategies, decentralization challenges, and regulatory concerns. He discusses key differences between Ethereum and Binance Smart Chain, DeFi's future, L2 developments, and offers a critique of Bitcoin. 00:00 Start 01:23 Dean intro 02:16 MEV = Oligopoly 03:19 Builder centralization on ETH 04:36 PBS design 05:53 Enshrined PBS 07:32 Atomic strategies & inventory risk 09:02 Censorship 10:29 Censorship & geographic distribution 12:46 MEV on BSC 13:43 MEV developer crossover 13:59 What chains do they do? 14:49 MEV on Solana 15:42 Faster chain = less MEV? 16:46 MEV on L2's? 17:46 Shared sequencing 20:06 Intents 22:17 Operating at a loss 23:52 AMM execution 24:52 Define MEV? 25:13 Is sandwiching bad still? 26:57 Private relays 28:05 Can you prevent private relays? 29:11 Is there a way to promote geographic distribution? 30:48 Is MEV like High feq trading? 32:06 Timing games 33:12 SEP of BSC 33:38 MEV searchers on the downlow 35:39 Legal aspects of MEV 36:30 Sandwiching illegal? 39:49 Regulating builders 40:31 OFAC transactions 41:41 Encrypted mempools 43:11 Ideology 45:15 What's missing 45:58 Restaking 46:42 Rollups good? 47:39 Bullish L2's? 49:06 ETH L1 innovation 49:57 Thoughts on Solana? 50:56 BSC happenings? 52:31 Bitcoin sucks Follow our guest on Twitter: @DeanEigenmann Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Allen Farrington, co-founder of Axiom, discusses Bitcoin scaling, the role of venture capital in Bitcoin's ecosystem, his thoughts on DeFi, NFTs, and stablecoins, and the potential for Bitcoin to supplant fiat money. He also shares his insights on the ordinals debate and the future of Bitcoin infrastructure. 00:00:00 Start 00:00:32 Allen intro 00:01:22 Allen's background 00:06:30 Investing in public Bitcoin companies 00:10:44 Axiom 00:13:26 What wrong with DeFi 00:20:38 How does Axiom decide what to invest in 00:24:11 Lightning gaming 00:28:49 Criticisms of lightning 00:33:02 Do L2s have to have trust tradeoffs? 00:36:00 Will BTC kill fiat? 00:38:52 How is Axiom NOT like other VCs? 00:42:23 Are tokens always silly? 00:48:56 Stablecoins 00:53:06 Are stablecoins doomed? 00:57:56 People want centralized stablecoins 00:59:42 What is DLCVM? 01:06:25 Rollups 01:10:47 Companies must ROI 01:19:20 Ordinals 01:27:25 The circular logic of scams 01:38:56 Wrap up Follow our guest on Twitter: @allenf32 Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this podcast, Tarun shares his insights on ZK technology, DeFi governance, PoW vs PoS, Bitcoin L2s, and more. He discusses the challenges of marketing ZK tech, the importance of dynamic availability in PoW, and the potential for Bitcoin to adopt new opcodes. Tarun also shares his thoughts on the future of DeFi and the crypto industry as a whole. Follow our guest on Twitter: @tarunchitra Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Chapter Markers: 00:00:00 Start 00:01:44 Tarun's background 00:02:04 Uniswap SEC case 00:04:47 Tarun's current focus 00:09:17 ZK tech's appeal 00:14:38 ZK tech applications 00:18:48 Solana fees & networking 00:25:44 State of DeFi governance 00:30:32 PoW vs PoS debate 00:40:31 Token voting & centralization 00:44:55 Token governance issues 00:49:55 PoW as better money 00:57:58 PoS issuance & staking 01:03:40 PoS & rational agents 01:09:11 ETF impact on staking 01:15:59 Tarun on Bitcoin L2 Alpen 01:18:54 Bitcoin ready for L2 tech? 01:21:03 OP_CTV & political will 01:22:46 Ideal Bitcoin L2 tech 01:25:02 Bitcoin Covenants (OP_CAT) Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back! In Part 2 of The Gwart Show, Alex B shares his insights on Bitcoin, Ethereum, and the broader crypto landscape. He discusses the flaws in Ethereum's proof of stake model, the cult-like phenomena in crypto, the reality of the Lightning Network, and the centralization concerns in DeFi. Alex also touches on the necessity of stablecoins and the constant innovation in crypto tech. Published weekly on Sunday afternoons, "The Gwart Show” gets to the bottom of crypto’s toughest topics. Chapter Markers: 00:00:00 Start 00:00:03 Intro 00:02:44 Anything interesting in crypto? 00:15:50 Ethereum's proof of stake 00:23:48 Alex's Ethereum predictions 00:34:33 Ethereum staking derivatives 00:38:50 Bitcoin DLCs & lending 00:44:27 Decentralized finance challenges 00:48:30 Open source vs liquidity 00:53:42 Lightning Network marketing 00:59:27 Lightning elegant but limited 01:03:39 Stablecoins on Lightning This show is produced by Blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alex B, writer at Bitcoin Magazine and longtime Bitcoin Twitter user, joins The Gwart Show in this two part series on the heart and soul of Bitcoin maximalism, why it matters, if Bitcoin Season 2 is a sham and, of course, if Ethereum is a scam. Follow our guest on Twitter: @bergealex4 Follow our host: @gwartygwart Chapter Markers: 00:00:00 Start 00:00:18 Introducing Alex Be  00:05:41 Bitcoin scaling discussion 00:17:44 Necessary Bitcoin primitives 00:36:02 Protocols & Bitcoin economy 00:38:18 Incremental vs risky changes 00:48:30 Eric & Rudy's views 00:49:44 Bitcoiners' concerns 00:50:50 Defi's degeneracy 01:00:31 MEV on Bitcoin 01:02:03 Miners & economies of scale 01:09:55 Drive chains & merged mining 01:14:21 Meta protocols & centralization 01:18:55 Miners & meme coins 01:20:21 Ordinals' impact on Bitcoin Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Uri Klarman, known for his BloxRoute private mempool company, joins Gwart to discuss the future of MEV on Ethereum and Solana. Uri goes through ther Ethereum block builder journey, why public mempool’s are a problem in today’s on-chain economy, and his many (and we mean many) attempts to address MEV or miner malfeasance through token schemes.  Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:44 Uri's background 01:28 Blocksroute 05:52 ETH block building 11:44 DeFi vs CeFi 15:55 Can Defi compete w/ Centralization? 19:53 Block builders stealing fees 21:39 Bye bye mempool 23:52 Solutions for MEV 29:10 Bitcoin miners chase profit, always! 32:25 Incentives promote MEV on ETH 33:38 Multiple concurrent proposers 45:46 Palidin 1:01:26 Why PAL token? 1:11:33 SOL delegated stake 1:12:05 Why not RPC? 1:13:18 PAL token liquidity 1:16:04 Slashing by consensus 1:19:59 ETH gas limit token 1:24:39 SOL staking future? 1:29:53 Mining ORE Follow our host: @gwartygwart Follow our guest on Twitter: @uriklarman 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eugene Chen, co-founder of Ellipsis Labs, discusses the future of decentralized finance, Solana's vision for transforming traditional finance, and how Phenix aims to redefine on-chain trading. He also shares insights on the Ethereum vs. Solana debate and the challenges of optimizing blockchains for Defi applications. Published randomly, "The Gwart Show” gets to the bottom of crypto’s toughest topics. 00:00:00 Start 00:00:18 Eugene's background  00:01:17 Defi work before Ellipsis 00:02:21 From HFT to Defi 00:05:25 Competing with TradFi 00:08:07 Phenix as proof of concept 00:10:18 Providing better liquidity 00:13:48 Solana's issues & progress 00:16:47 Solana's research focus 00:19:24 Gita removes mempool  00:20:28 MEV: AMMs vs order books 00:23:43 Ethereum MEV direction 00:25:13 Solana's speed & MEV 00:29:07 Ellipsis' 5-15yr vision 00:35:09 Ideal decentralization  00:35:50 Solana token & platform 00:38:16 Economic security as meme 00:41:33 Defi's on-chain strengths 00:44:47 Rollups & interoperability 00:48:30 Valid Solana criticisms 00:51:31 Solana vs new fast chains This show is produced by Blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mechanism this, mechanism that. Why does crypto infrastructure even matter? Gwart tunes in with Alex Nezlobin to discuss the history and importance of AMMs like Uniswap. Published randomly, "The Gwart Show” gets to the bottom of crypto’s toughest topics. Chapter Markers: 00:00:00 Start 00:01:11 Alex's Background 00:04:21 Problems in TradFi 00:06:29 Alex's Interest in AMMs 00:17:16 Robinhood & Payment for Order Flow 00:22:52 The Future of AMMs 00:27:31 Frontrunning & Insider Trading 00:37:31 AMM Landscape on Ethereum 00:46:46 Colocation & Latency 00:52:28 Builder Centralization 01:08:18 Fast Chains & AMM Losses 01:25:13 AMMs in 20 Years 01:34:36 Wrap-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rjindael of the the Taproot Wizards joins Gwart to get to the bottom of Bitcoin’s soul search. Does Bitcoin need a revival? Are the Wizards going to hard? Is Lightning really broken? Who will stop the impending flood of Bitcoin MEV? Published randomly, "The Gwart Show” gets to the bottom of crypto’s toughest topics. Check out our other shows and content by going to https://blockspace.beehiiv.com/subscribe today. Follow our host on Twitter, @gwartygwart. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike Neuder of the EF and Max Resnick of SMG join Gwart to fix Ethereum MEV in one podcast. Mike, Max and Gwart talk MEV, Bitcoin and more. Published randomly, "The Gwart Show” gets to the bottom of crypto’s toughest topics. Check out our other shows and content by going to https://blockspace.beehiiv.com/subscribe today. Follow our host on Twitter, @gwartygwart. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gwart interviews Solana Phone CEO Anatoly Yakovenko to talk Eth, monolithic architecture and more. Subscribe to our newsletter: https://blockspace.media/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are joined by Eric Wall, someone with too much time and tokens on their hands, to talk about Bitcoin Ordinals, smart critiques of Ethereum and Bitcoin MEV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! We are joined by the 4th most important Taproot Wizard, Udi Wertheimer, to discuss, well, male pattern baldness. We also dive into the wizards roadmap (not just JPEGS) like CATVM, the use-cases for L2s, how blockspace doesn’t solve blockspace issues and why ETH Maxis just keep losing. If you are enjoying the show, please subscribe to our email list for notifications when the podcast comes out, transcripts and more. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:54 Taproot Wizards update 01:39 Technical roadblocks 03:34 What new tech should Bitcoin have? 05:36 Are DeGens our saviors? 10:05 Lack of product market fit for crypto tech 11:55 SOL Degen = BTC Maxi? 14:59 Is DeFi interesting at all? 18:11 CATVM 20:46 Vision for CATVM 23:39 Where are the L2 use cases? 27:12 ETH roll up roadmap 31:02 Can't scale blockspace w/ more blockspace 33:33 CATVM does NOT solve scaling 36:36 On chain lending? 40:30 BITVM 43:15 VCs backing BITVM 46:03 Are tokens NOT terrible? 51:41 ETH maxis suck at predicting the future 1:00:17 Where are we at in 5 years? Follow our host: @gwartygwart Follow our guest on Twitter: @udiWertheimer 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! We we’re down in Nashville recording some shows, but this week we have something a bit different with Mert, CEO of Helius and co-host of a BlockWorks podcast. So, it's a podcast with a podcaster today. We go through Solana's ecosystem, including MEV and architecture. Mert shares insights on Fire Dancer, state compression and Helius, while addressing criticisms and challenges. Timestamps 00:00 Start 00:50 Mert's background 01:16 ETHCC experience 03:26 ETHCC takeaways 08:16 Can't L2s just get along! 11:01 Is ETH following SOL? 15:40 Base sequencing 20:02 What's exciting now? 27:47 Apps now & future 32:38 Will Solana be NASDAQ on chain? 36:18 MEV on Solana 39:21 Is MEV inevitable? 46:02 Stake-weighted QoS (Quality-of-Service) 48:49 DDOSing RPCs 50:12 Is Stake-weighted QoS centralizing? 51:59 Will Solana become the Helius-chain? Follow our host: @gwartygwart Follow our guest on Twitter: @0xMert_ 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! We’re re-joined by Max Resnick (@MaxResnick1) of the Special Mechanisms Group (@specialmech) to discuss Ethereum's potential shift towards faster block times and multi-proposer systems. He explores the implications for L2s, MEV, and market structure. The conversation covers Ethereum's comp21etitiveness with Solana, the future of DeFi, and the challenges of centralization in crypto. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:06 Matt's background 02:47 ETH vibes right now 04:39 Consensus around new EIPs 09:47 Node burdens 13:22 What about the L2 roadmap 16:47 Did ETH just rug L2s? 18:11 The future of roll ups 21:25 Is Base extracting value from users? 24:25 What is the multi-proposer? 25:39 Community response 27:12 Outcompeted by Solana 29:50 Who doesn't agree? 30:43 Changes for block builders 32:21 What does ETH Foundation think? 33:01 Benefits of 2 sec block times? 35:15 Trading back to L1? 37:11 L1 value = MEV available 40:42 Yield APR & loan APR converge? 41:45 Is the end game 100% staked ETH? 44:56 Moral judgements leading development 45:47 Restaking 48:14 Why does ETH win against Solana? 52:06 Infrastructure vs apps 54:01 What apps are unlocks 54:44 Stablecoin chokepoints 1:01:12 MEV on Solana 1:06:50 Future of AMMs 1:07:12 Trusted execution environments 1:09:56 SUAVE 1:11:57 Service provider adoption of EIPs Follow our host: @gwartygwart Follow our guest on Twitter: @MaxResnick1 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Today we’re joined by Bitcoin bull and on-chain analyst Checkmate to discuss Bitcoin's market dynamics, mining economics, and market outlook given the bear victory laps on the timeline. He shares thoughts on on-chain analysis, altcoin markets, ETFs, and the role of Bitcoin in the global financial system, offering a bullish perspective on its long-term potential. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:53 Checkmate intro 04:07 Checkmate charting product 07:29 Who's the customer? 10:37 Current market outlook 14:49 Why's everyone bearish? 19:03 Different this time? 23:46 Institutional interest 28:14 Bitcoin development 34:39 Bitcoin's future 39:40 Actually useful indicators 45:27 On-chain metrics 49:12 nation-state adoption 54:52 Miners holding BTC 1:04:28 BTC ETFs 1:08:55 ETH ETF Follow our guest on Twitter: @Rob1Ham Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rob Hamilton, CEO of AnchorWatch and mini-script fan boy, joins The Gwart Show to break down the nuances behind Bitcoin script, why we should’t be scared of a soft fork for rollups (if we need one!) and what a world with more Bitcoin functionality looks like. Rob and Gwart embark on discussions of L2 tokens, Bitcoin consensus rules and the value of VCs in Bitcoin.  Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:32 Rob's background 03:13 2013-2022 05:37 What is AnchorWatch? 13:02 Miniscript 19:53 Target user of AnchorWatch 21:33 Current Bitcoin development 35:45 Covenant use cases 38:34 Stablecoins 42:16 USD to BTC rails 44:41 Do rollups scale? 50:38 Challenges of trustless rollups 1:00:04 VC funding coming to Bitcoin 1:03:30 Ponzi coming to Bitcoin 1:13:29 End of altcoin ponzi games? 1:16:40 Do stablecoins need decentralized chains? 1:20:41 Bitcoin & IRL resources 1:23:06 Blockchain commodity value 1:25:23 Token unlocks 1:30:34 Government permission required 1:36:27 AnchorWatch as a memecoin 1:39:43 Funding for ideas 1:45:49 Antpool centralization via proxies 1:52:13 Lacking developer funding 1:57:20 P2P node encryption Follow our guest on Twitter: @Rob1Ham Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Evgeny Gaevoy, CEO of Wintermute, discusses market making in crypto, DeFi evolution, blockchain technology's relationship with capitalism, Solana's approach, GameFi potential, and the future of crypto in light of AI advancements. He shares insights on token design, DAO governance, and contrarian views on crypto's long-term prospects. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:52 Evgeny background 02:25 Crypto vs tradfi 04:04 Caring about more than market making 05:23 Wintermute business line 07:10 Why use a market maker? 10:11 Good vs bad market making? 12:07 On-chain price discovery 13:48 Is NOT having on-chain price discovery a failure? 15:27 ICO benefits 18:02 Good token design 20:22 Should token holders have rights? 24:09 Equity + tokens WTF? 26:04 DOA governance 27:35 Has governance gotten worse? 30:41 Big unlocks in DeFi? 34:45 Rebuilding TradFi on -chain (yawn) 39:23 Will crypto market makers get out competed? 42:56 ETH roadmap blues 44:12 Capitalist systems or bust 47:11 Solana 49:38 Bro, do u even Bitcoin? 50:27 What does DeFi solve? 51:29 What does DeFi NOT solve? 52:31 GameFi thesis 53:23 Why does GameFi still suck? 55:40 Star Trek = DeFi fail Follow our guest on Twitter: @EvgenyGaevoy Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stefan Gosselin-co-founder at Flashbots and founder at OneBalance–joins The Gwart Show. We go through block builder centralization, Stephane's vision for Ethereum, properties of censorship resistance, censorship resistance, shared sequencers, and the future of Bitcoin L2s. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:32 Stephane’s background 01:38 Beginning in Web3 04:59 Current projects 06:15 Starting Frontier 07:46 Infinite Games 12:11 Centralization 16:02 PBS design 22:08 Global vs local consensus 29:17 Censorship getting better? 34:34 Are block builders price setters? 37:09 One Balance 41:31 Wallet based roll-up? WTF! 44:55 Protocol design 49:24 Shared sequencers 52:48 Solvers 55:45 Private order flow 59:19 Solana grants & control 1:01:30 Benefits of One Balance 1:07:42 Bitcoin L2 1:12:29 10 yr crypto vision 1:13:35 Wrap up Follow our guest on Twitter: @thegostep Follow our host: @gwartygwart 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can you short real life? That’s the idea behind Futarchy. By applying financial logic and smart contracts to ordinary life, you can create prediction markets that help people create better decisions. Today Proph3t of MetaDAO joins the Gwart show to discuss what Futarchy is, how it relates to DAO governance for projects like DeFi, where the tokens are at and if traditional entrepreneurs could thrive in a world where DAOs run the ship. Follow our guest on Twitter:  @metaproph3t Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:50 Profit's background 01:51 What is futarchy? 02:22 Problems with DeFi governance 03:02 What projects need governance? 06:14 How does MetaDAO work? 07:25 Markets vs voting 09:14 What issues should be decided by futarchy? 11:15 Why markets know best? 16:20 Would Steve Jobs survive futarchy? 17:13 Does futarchy fix bad management? 20:34 Are DAOs companies? 22:09 Does futarchy always lead to NGU? 23:00 What is the Meta token? 24:26 Recent MetaDAO proposals 25:54 $250k bet on recent proposal 28:30 Why build on Solana? 29:59 Solana culture 31:19 Examples of novel ideas 34:02 Professional DAOs 37:21 Forking vs voting 40:12 Open source protocols vs DOAs 41:56 Tokens, tokens, everywhere 47:58 Shareholder rights? 51:28 It's all prediction markets 55:01 Prediction markets a threat to democracy? 58:38 Variables in social welfare 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabe Shapiro, crypto lawyer and co-founder of MetaLeX Labs, joins The Gwart Show to discuss DeFi regulation, tokenized securities, and the future of crypto under Trump or Kamala. Follow our guest on Twitter: @lex_node Chapters 00:00 Start 00:42 Gabe's background 01:21 MetaLeX & Borgs 04:16 Problems with DAOs 09:40 Foundations vs corporations in DAOs 15:03 Well run DAO examples 18:06 The risks of tokens + equity 21:53 Regulating conflicts of interest 24:12 What don't lawyers understand? 27:21 Liquid staking tokens 30:39 Legalities of MEV 36:25 Changing rules 43:25 Governance attack vs code exploit 48:19 People are the DAO attack vector 54:41 Legal risks of single sequencers 55:20 WTF is a tokenized security? 59:50 Bearer asset laws 1:02:46 Crypto corp structures 1:07:51 World Liberty Financial 1:09:54 Trump vs Harris crypto regulation 1:14:37 Regulation = good? umm.. 1:18:50 Stablecoins 1:21:50 Does USDC now control ETH roadmap? 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ludwig Thouvenin from Sorella discusses Ethereum MEV, Uniswap V4, and the launch of Brontes, an open-source MEV dashboard. He explores the complexities of DeFi liquidity, arbitrage strategies, and the future of Ethereum's protocol design, offering insights into the challenges and opportunities in the evolving crypto landscape. Follow our guest on Twitter: @SorellaLabs @0xvanbeethoven Link to the dashboard: https://t.co/tylzKFdetM 00:00 Start 00:57 What is Sorella? 03:38 Types of MEV 06:31 Confidence of MEV identification 11:28 Assumption & discoveries 19:10 Cross-chain MEV 22:08 Large firm advantages 24:41 Trading vs arbitraging 26:26 Big builder landscape 29:43 MEV accelerationist views? 33:58 Private order flow 35:18 Should users know about order flow? 37:38 Angstrom DEX 41:12 Uniswap 3 vs 4 42:52 Why doesn't Uniswap have this functionality? 45:22 Why a hook, not an app? 48:51 System architecture 50:00 Slashing & node count 50:45 Uniswap LPs, WTF? 57:45 Permissionless capital formation 1:00:43 Protocol design 1:06:41 Foreseeable hazards 1:10:21 Ethereum roadmap optimism 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam Cochran–a familiar profil pic to anyone on crypto twitter-joins The Gwart Show! They tackle Ethereum's roadmap, DeFi’s PMF, TradFi boys joining the party and regulatory & political challenges. At the end, we get a nice pitch on why we should take Ethereum seriously (or not). Follow our guest on Twitter: @adamscochran 00:00 Start 01:18 Who's Adam Cochran? 04:40 Don't get butt hurt 06:09 Adam history 09:23 Working on now? 10:42 Unique investment profile 12:47 ETH roadmap 15:34 L1 vs L2 18:40 BASE roll-ups 21:17 Non-financial Ethereum? 24:11 All the ETH maxis please stand up 25:51 Value in the L1 28:11 ETH's monetary premium 31:21 Solana.... discuss.... 34:09 Solana apps 35:35 Why Degen hate, bro? 37:32 The failure of DeFi summer 41:26 Bullish of what projects? 44:12 Who Wins? 45:49 Goldman will "follow fast" you dummies! 48:22 Regulations 51:19 Politics 55:44 Shill me beneath the willow tree 57:23 ETH/BTC chart 1:00:43 Pitch me Ethereum 1:02:10 ETH monetary properties 1:04:33 Value ETH on earnings? 1:08:22 Wrap up 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show!In today’s episode we are joined by the Alpen Labs team, a group of ZK dreamers working on SNARK-based verification of a second layer on top of Bitcoin. We hit all the big topics, like the current state of BitVM bridging, thoughts on sequencers, building a moat, Coinbase launching cBTC and EVM compatibility! Follow our guest on Twitter: @david_seroy @simanta_gautam 00:00 Start 00:31 Intro 01:20 Current projects 02:13 Applications on Bitcoin 04:16 Bictoin L2 landscape 10:36 Current state of BitVM bridges 14:35 Learnings from EVM 19:12 Bitcoin sequencers 23:54 Unilateral exit 31:31 Data availability 35:41 Walled garden L2's 41:28 Aplen's edge in the market? 46:16 Privacy 49:51 The wider L2 landscape 58:25 Roll-up tokens 1:01:11 Sequencer fees 1:03:13 Coinbase launching wrapped BTC 1:08:27 EVM compatibility 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kyle Samani of Multicoin Capital–a fund well known for its Solana bags and focus on DePIN–joins The Gwart Show! Today, we discuss Solana's potential to overtake Ethereum, the future of DeFi, token economics, and the emerging DePIN sector. We have some hot takes on Ethereum as a failed project, ultrasound money, etc. Also we talk about moats for dapps, wallets and infra (always infra…) Follow our guest on Twitter: @KyleSamani @multicoincap 00:00 Start 00:53 Breakpoint & Token impressions 08:27 Bitcoin is nonsense 10:12 Debt vs commodity money 12:55 SOL / ETH flippening 19:47 Arguments for ETH 27:06 Valuing base on MEV 33:50 NASDAQ on-chain 34:38 Tokenized equities 38:34 Future of ETH 42:28 Ultrasound money meme 48:17 Deflow, wallets & order flow 52:56 Order flow and centralization 1:02:57 SVM building L2s 1:07:50 DePINs - Decentralized physical infrastructure networks 1:13:50 Target prices of SOL/ETH flip 1:21:56 Are there any moats for apps? 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re rejoined by Mike Neuder, Ethereum researcher and general student of all things crypto-economics, to discuss the future of his bags, AKA Ethereum. We pick up on the conversation a lot of Twitter is having regarding Ethereum’s fraught future. Is it worth the marketcap? Can Solana flippen it? Is the FUD legit? We discuss on this week’s Gwart Show! Follow our guest on Twitter: @mikeneuder CHAPTERS 00:00 Start 01:01 ETH vibe check 05:43 Vibes at ETH Foundation 09:56 Make the L1 great again! 12:57 Are roll-ups parasitic? 17:58 Is Solana eating ETh's lunch? 21:20 ETh as money vs utility token 27:12 Is "store of value" important? 34:21 Is staked ETH money? 37:40 Is ETH's blockcpace "Premium"? 49:13 ETH security budget decline 1:05:25 ETH's monopoly on smart contract blockspace is slipping 1:12:28 Unichain, what's that? 1:16:45 Vitalik "Unichain makes no sense" 1:21:34 Is Unichain good or bad for ETH? 1:27:04 MEV 1:32:34 Relay vs EPBS system 1:35:35 Private order flow 1:39:39 Collusion to sidestep PBS 1:41:54 What's wrong w/ builders & validators colluding? 1:46:30 The advantage of unstaked ETH 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to the Gwart Show! Today we are joined by Alex Watts, CEO and co-founder of Fastlane Labs. They discuss MEV, Ethereum's challenges, and UX. He explores the tensions between DeFi and traditional finance, the potential risks of stablecoins, and the need for crypto to focus on real-world outcomes beyond just decentralization. Follow our guest on Twitter: @ThogardPvP Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:57 Alex's background 01:35 Becoming a Seeker 03:13 MEV opportunities 04:56 Fastlane 06:36 Polygon sidecar? 09:36 MEV extraction 12:01 Composability 17:15 App Specific Sequencing on Solana 22:41 End of the PBS experiment 27:28 Fixing PBS 29:50 Multiple concurrent proposers 33:56 Effects of MPC 39:59 ETH l1 fees 43:37 Future of ETH L1 45:30 ETH as money 50:21 Are l2s parasitic? 52:33 ETH & hard truths 56:31 Valuing blockchains based on MEV 1:04:05 Validators: more than construct blocks 1:05:34 Institutionalization of validators 1:09:28 Future of blockchain activity 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to the Gwart Show! Today we are joined by James Prestwich, a OG Ethereum engineer and leader of @init4tech, an Ethereum research group. On the show, we dive back into Ethereum’s plight, beginning with the fundamentals. We start with a review of Ethereum’s origins, James’ mental model for ETH, why PBS is broken (and was from the start), if Rollups work and how we skipped sharding, Vitalik and more Vitalik, and what Solana really means for Ethereum. Follow our guest on Twitter: @_prestwich Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:50 Jame's bio 02:30 ETH's evolution 06:08 Mental models for ETH 08:40 How's ETH doing these days? 13:05 Current Roll Up sequencers 14:42 Other sequencer models 20:48 Fixing PBS 24:38 Not addressing known problems 28:54 Current roll up landscape 31:54 Macro & crypto 32:48 Future of roll ups 35:01 Real world impact 40:22 Goals for ETH 42:37 Consensus for ETH 46:32 Vitalik 's bad decisions 48:48 Vitalik from a tech perspective 51:47 Hard & soft power in ETH ecosystem 54:16 SOL vs ETH 56:28 If SOL is better rails, what should ETH do? 58:35 What are you optimistic about? 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Elijah, protocol designer at DeFi exchange Neutron, joins The Gwart Show! We get pretty deep into some tech topics on Ethereum like decentralizing oracles and AMM designs so be sure to bring a notepad. Follow our guest on Twitter: @PossibltyResult Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:42 Elijah background 01:25 Multiple concurrent proposers 05:03 App integration 09:31 Hyperliguid 12:10 Opinionated blockspace 17:27 MCP risks 21:27 ETH's goals? 29:56 Is DeFi just FinTech 2.0? 35:33 Future of AMMs 40:56 Long tail assets 47:07 How dumb is restaking? 58:52 ETH vs BTC 1:03:41 The ETH vision 👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rebecca Rettig, Chief Legal Officer at Polygon Labs, joins The Gwart show to discuss crypto regulation, the future of DeFi, stablecoins, and the impact of upcoming elections on crypto policy. Deep insights into regulatory challenges and opportunities in the evolving crypto landscape. Note this show was recorded before the election occurred! Follow our guest on Twitter: @RebeccaRettig1 Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:50 Rebecca's bio 01:38 Appearing in Congress 05:06 Language matters 07:17 What the "people" want 09:28 Talking to representatives 10:32 What has been the biggest failure? 12:44 What regulation would be good? 16:21 The role of tokens 20:27 KYC & tokens 22:17 Stablecoins 24:04 Using stablecoins 26:16 Stablecoin in US future? 28:13 What have we done wrong? 29:58 Do you actually NEED a token? 33:22 Vampire attack on fiat 34:41 What's Gensler's deal? 36:00 Uniswap fees 38:44 Validators & OFAC 40:04 Politics 45:49 Memecoins 49:19 Line in the sand 50:39 Privacy 52:37 Predictions 53:45 Banks gonna crush 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Spirits on the blockchain? We’re joined by a digital marketplace for Whiskey, BAXUS, to get a better understanding of RWAs.  Follow our guest on Twitter: @BAXUSco @web4o Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:27 Baxus background 03:20 Whisky quality level 07:19 Creating Baxus 11:28 How does Baxus work? 12:54 KYC 17:48 Low end whisky market 22:23 Whisky fandom 23:53 The oracle problem 26:52 Why does this need a blockchain? 32:05 Brick and mortar locations 33:27 UI & blockchain 34:10 Crypto users vs normies 38:34 Web 3 future? 40:25 Blockchain as trusted ledger 44:55 Trend toward high value assets 47:00 User arbitraging the assets 48:41 Wouldn't makers just go to Baxus not stores? 49:21 Distributors & regulations 51:37 Opting out of legacy systems 54:58 Investing in bottles 59:17 Whisky as store of value 1:04:42 Subject theory of value 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can we get Ethereum without tradeoffs? Probably not but we’re gonna try. This week we’re joined by MEV searcher and developer 0xprincess to discuss “trustless order flow operations layers,” or how 1-second block times with no protocol changes or L2s can happen today. Later on we get into Wintermute, Flashbots and chain order flow. Follow our guest on Twitter: @0x9212ce55 Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:47 Who is 0xPrincess? 03:52 How does T.O.O.L. work? 05:30 Designing TOOL 07:41 Trusted execution environments 11:05 We'll decentralize it soon(TM) 15:50 Network participants 18:24 Validator load 21:02 TOOL reduces ETH block times 26:23 TOOL v pre-confirmation 28:55 Wintermute & Flashbots 34:54 Bye bye builder? 38:25 Off chain order flow 41:46 Private order flow, obvious in hindsight? 45:45 Can't get rid of monopolies? 50:01 ETH protocol development 55:08 L2s 58:58 MAKE THE L1 GREAT AGAIN! 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Justin Drake joins us as the dust settles on his ‘Beam Chain’ pivot (?) for Ethereum. Justin Drake of the Ethereum Foundation joins The Gwart Show! We discuss his Beam Chain proposal, covering improvements in block production, staking mechanics, and cryptography. He explains the path toward more efficient validation and the future of Layer 2 scaling solutions. Follow our guest on Twitter: @drakefjustin Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:57 Beam chain 05:36 Beam Chain highlights 11:19 What is the Bean Chain meme? 13:06 Speculation about Beam Chain 17:22 Pre-confs require capital centralization? 19:53 Temporary trusted relay 20:32 Inclusion vs execution pre-confs 25:44 Changing ETH issuance, again? 28:08 Centralized validator set? 30:16 Cost of capital wins? 34:40 Base rollups 39:50 Base rollups are App Chains? 44:19 Merge mistakes 49:15 Was PBS a mistake? 52:25 Legitimate criticism 58:17 Building on L1 vs L2 1:00:41 Decentralized stablecoins 1:03:05 Restaking 1:04:59 Exciting use cases? 1:06:56 Don't care about DeFi? 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Max is leaving Ethereum, and we have the details. On this Gwart Show special filmed at Pubkey in NYC, Max and Eugene join Gwart to go through Max’s decision to leave Ethereum dev shop Conensensys in favor of a Solana client which frankly we don’t know how to spell or pronounce. We go through Ethereum’s major problems basically one-by-one in this 1.5 hour show, finishing with a Holiday Special game of ‘cooked or not cooked’ narratives. Follow our guest on Twitter: @MaxResnick1 @0xshittrader 00:00 Start 00:32 Quitting ETH 02:38 Other people quitting? 04:08 Did you always doubt? 06:20 Execution layer 07:51 ETH Foundation blinders 09:51 New role in Solana? 11:42 Leadership in SOL vs ETH 14:10 Launching an L2 on ETH 16:58 Jitter 18:38 More rollups, more problems 21:48 Does SOL end up w/ L2s? 24:54 Solana is a real ETH competitor 26:11 MEV research on SOL 33:32 Is a meme sandwich really a sandwich? 36:06 Does SOL take MEV seriously? 37:37 Cooked or not cooked? 37:47 Intents 41:27 Interoperability 44:27 L2s functionally becoming l1s 46:46 ZK tech 52:21 Allowing innovation is the killer app 55:24 Nodes faster than tradfi 57:55 Ultrasound money... LOL 1:05:40 MEV kings will be Citadel 1:08:04 Forcing tradfi to play our game 1:09:50 Bitcoin cooked? 1:10:40 Memcoins cooked? 1:12:26 Depin cooked? 1:13:51 Prediction markets cooked? 1:18:06 Hype cooked? 1:20:10 Time boost cooked? 1:24:28 Futarchy cooked? 1:31:06 Future of Solana 1:33:02 Is Solana gonna win 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Today we are rejoined by Jon Charb of DBA. A fellow podcaster and SOL bag holder, Gwart digs into Jon’s recent blog post on Ethereum’s future, community alignment, value of ETH, and Bitcoin rollup development. Follow our guest on Twitter: @jon_charb 00:00 Start 00:41 ETH's North Star Blog Post 03:57 Is SOL a true competitor? 05:44 WTF is a settlement layer? 09:35 Main points of North Star post 16:08 Community alignment 19:21 Gas limit increase 22:30 L1 performance increase 25:35 Is the value in the execution? 28:28 TradFi does care about credible neutrality 34:44 L1 blockspace premium 40:35 Does world computer = money? 44:15 Store of value vs utility 48:38 ETH at $1 50:39 Effects of 32 ETH to stake 52:29 Distribution of stake now 57:28 Beamchain 1:02:36 Why would Bitcoin rollups be different? 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Charlotte, creator of Milady NFTs, discusses building a counter-cultural art movement, embracing controversy, fostering community through derivatives, and aiming for "thousand-year dynasty" influence across tech, politics, and culture while rejecting traditional VC-backed NFT models. Follow our guest on Twitter: @CharlotteFang77 00:00 Start 01:01 Who is Charlotte Fang? 01:29 Inspiration for Milady ? 04:39 Art style 10:24 Path to success? 17:43 Community engagement 21:37 Milady Cancel? 25:10 Milady 911 27:08 VC backed NFTs 35:07 Memecoins 37:17 Crypropunks 44:08 Derivatives 51:04 Future of NFTs 57:15 Fidenza 1:02:22 Ordinals 1:05:28 Base 1:08:54 Grand vision 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eli Ben-Sasson, CEO of Starkware, joins The Gwart Show to discuss Ethereum L2s and Bitcoin scaling solutions. We go through rollup controversies, Starkware’s airdrop drama, and how we might actually scale protocols through ZK proofs and STARKs. Lastly, we touch on OP_CAT, which the Starkware team has been pushing behind the scenes. Follow our guest on Twitter: @EliBenSasson 00:00 Start 00:44 Guest introduction 01:25 What is Starkware working on? 03:15 Working on BTC vs ETH 06:27 Why did Bitcoin dev stagnate? 08:44 Chain agnostic 11:52 Why will Validity Rollups win? 14:59 What Starkware is doing differently 18:17 Hardware 20:38 ETH's Rollup roadmap 22:13 Optimistic rollups 25:37 ETH Starknet adoption 31:27 Airdrop fumble 39:48 Would you do the airdrop differently? 42:33 Stark token for gas 45:13 Selling Bitcoiners on Stark token? 47:26 Based Rollups won't work 50:01 Base capturing marketshare 54:51 Is OP_CAT required? 57:00 What if no OP_CAT? 58:57 Why should Bitcoiners care? 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we’re joined by Uma Roy of Succinct Labs to discuss ZK-VM technology, the upcoming prover network, and the alternative scaling paths. We got into rollup architectures, Bitcoin integration, and the landscape of ZK proofs in crypto. Follow our guest on Twitter: @pumatheuma 00:00 Start 00:53 Who is Uma? 01:16 What's a ZKVM? 03:07 Starkware vs Prover Network 04:20 How does it work? 05:28 Who plans to use this ZKVM? 07:50 Why does it take an hour? 10:01 What is the Prover Network? 14:15 ASICS for Prover Network? 21:07 System design 24:55 Roll ups remaining optimistic? 26:04 Let a thousand roll ups bloom 28:14 App chains 30:50 Solana ZK? 32:06 Solana target applications? 34:38 Scaling L1 fallacy 37:12 Interoperability 42:21 Beamchain 45:46 Differences in ZKVMs available? 50:17 Why will ZKVMS be profitable? 54:36 BitVM 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Steve Lee from Spiral and Ren from Electric Capital join The Gwart Show to talk Bitcoin consensus! We cover how Bitcoin changes, stakeholder weight, and the future of protocol upgrades like covenants. Follow our guest on Twitter: @moneyball @0xren_cf Read our paper: https://bitcoin-cap.github.io/bcap/ 00:00 Start 01:00 Introductions 03:01 Partnering for the paper 04:25 Motivation to write paper 08:17 Reluctance to define a BTC consensus process 12:20 Defining the stakeholders 13:48 Consensus game theory 15:51 Blocksize war 20:36 Learnings from the Blocksize War 22:33 Signaling & other activation routes 26:13 Bounty claim attack 29:44 Are miners up to speed on covenants? 31:59 measuring state of mind 34:38 Education 36:45 Self custody = power 40:59 Role of influencers 45:20 Current state of possible changes 49:39 Echo chambers vs reality 53:42 Will we get to a breaking point? 58:16 OP_CAT 1:01:44 Productive paths to change 1:04:47 What does Bitcoin NEED? 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy Sunday and welcome back to The Gwart Show. Today we are joined by Jordi Alexander, founder of Selini Capital, discusses HyperLiquid's success, the future of AI in crypto, market making strategies, and shares insights on Ethereum's potential changes and Solana's surprising performance. Follow our guests on Twitter:@gametheorizing 00:00 Start 00:56 Jordi intro 01:23 Selini Capital 03:11 Prop shop vs VC money 04:35 What is HFT? 05:38 Which DeFi protocols for Selini Capital? 06:35 Volume of Hyperliquid 07:59 Marketmaking CeFi vs DeFi? 09:02 Why no Wall Steert marker makers? 10:19 How good is Hyperliquid? 13:30 Will Hyperliquid survive? 16:18 Small validator set 18:59 Hype token 21:30 ETH vibes these days? 23:06 Does the Ethereum Foundation even matter? 25:00 Does SOL flip ETH? 27:17 AI agents 30:08 Agents vs Bots 33:08 AI tokens 34:46 AI for endless promotion 36:43 Pigeon dox 40:31 DeSci 👋The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this deep dive episode, Kevin Mills from Triton Liquid Fund joins us to examine the fundamental value of Ethereum through multiple analytical frameworks. Building on John Pfeifer's influential 2017 paper, Kevin explores cash flow models, equation of exchange, and the internet bond theory to assess ETH's true value. The conversation challenges popular narratives around monetary premium and questions traditional valuation approaches in crypto markets. Essential listening for anyone interested in crypto asset valuation fundamentals. Read the paper: https://whatisethereumworth.com/ 🐦Follow our guests on Twitter: @__kfm__ 📝Quick notes & topics: • ETH cash flow valuation challenges • Value capture vs value creation • L2 impact on ETH economics • Monetary premium limitations • Application layer value capture • Protocol value extraction limits Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:39 Kevin bio 04:26 Original paper overview 08:19 Valuation methods 11:51 Denominating in ETH 13:17 Issuance rate / cash flow 18:26 Equation of exchange 29:41 Internet bond 33:41 Working capital theory 37:16 Carrying cost of capital 41:18 Counter arguments: Ultra Sound Money 47:14 Premium block space 55:20 Bimetalic history 58:39 Likely outcomes 1:03:06 The utility path to zero 1:05:08 App layer thesis 1:09:11 RIP Fat Protocol Thesis 1:11:08 Value capture mechanisms 1:15:16 Solana's got the same problems 👋 The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. They are one of the strongest teams I know in crypto. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Peter van Valkenburgh breaks down Coin Center's legal battle against the DOJ's crackdown on privacy tools like Tornado Cash. From First Amendment rights to money transmission laws, we explore how these cases could alter development. Peter explains why software isn't money transmission and how these prosecutions threaten innovation in America. 🐦Follow our guests on Twitter: @valkenburgh @coincenter  📝Quick notes & topics: • Code as protected speech • DOJ vs privacy tools • Money transmission laws • First Amendment rights • Regulatory overreach • Trump vs Biden crypto policy Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:46 Peter bio 02:02 What is Coin Center? 07:01 Other advocacy groups 12:54 Alignment w/ older orgs 24:59 Location specific legal interpretation 30:01 Tornado Cash case update 33:47 3 charges in Tornado Cash case 38:46 Samurai v Tornado Cash 44:41 How does this fail? 48:21 On & off ramps 51:17 Tornado Cash token 53:37 Token complications 55:43 Securities law 1:02:28 Legal response to immutable code 1:06:49 Optimism & timelines 1:10:51 What should we do? 1:15:16 Solana's got the same problems 👋 The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. They are one of the strongest teams I know in crypto. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Gwart Show! Today, Jacob Phillips, founder of Lombard Finance, joins us to talk Bitcoin staking. From Babylon protocol's approach to Bitcoin security to Lombard's role in creating liquid staking derivatives, we chat about Bitcoin as a productive asset. Plus thoughts on technical infrastructure, market dynamics, and Bitcoin staking in DeFi. TOPICS • Bitcoin Staking Mechanisms • Babylon Protocol Overview • Liquid Staking Derivatives • DeFi Integration • Security Models • Cross-chain Bitcoin Solutions 🐦Follow our guests on Twitter: @JacobPPhillips Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:52 Jacob intro 02:14 BTC staking 04:13 What is LBTC? 04:59 Minting LBTC on ETH 07:23 Demand 11:43 Yield 14:37 BTC restaking 15:53 Why restaking for security 18:11 Future of yield 22:19 BTC v ETH staking 25:22 New financial primitives 28:26 Points farming and the future 30:53 Lombard business case 33:40 Copy/paste rollups 35:45 Chain adoption 37:47 Competition 39:33 Babylon ecosystem 42:05 Why LBTC token 45:50 Current Bitcoin L2s 50:33 What happens if covenants? 55:15 Validator incentives 👋 The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs is building Atlas, the blockchain purpose-built for verifiable finance. You may know of Ellipsis Labs by their first product Phoenix, a fully on-chain orderbook DEX that’s done over 50 billion dollars in unincentivized volume. They are one of the strongest teams I know in crypto. If you’re interested in working for a mission-driven company, Ellipsis Labs is hiring engineers passionate about crypto and finance to work on Atlas. You can learn more and apply on Ellipsis Labs’ Twitter “at Ellipsis_Labs”. Don’t forget to check out Atlas too, @atlasxyz on Twitter. Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? hello@blockspace.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices