In this episode of The 8 O'Clock Spot, Bryson Carver hosts with contestants Arthur Hurst, Frank Speights, and Dylan Lima! They'll each have 2 minutes to discuss whether the Thunder have proven to be significantly better than the Pacers through 2 games, what the Steelers and new QB Aaron Rodgers should consider a successful season, whether Jason Kidd should leave the Mavs for the Knicks, and if KD to the Spurs would be a good move. In the winner-take-all round, the top two point getters will debate whether the Team USA vs Team World changes will help the NBA All-Star Game!

Bryson Carver, Paris Brown and Arthur Hurst react to Game 3 of the NBA Finals and give their major takeaways for the Pacers and the Thunder! Join the conversation!

On tonight's LOADED show, I'll explain how the Indiana Pacers dictated their path to the NBA Finals and why I would've voted for Tyrese Haliburton as the ECF MVP over Pascal Siakam, as well as the unpopular decision the Knicks need to make if they want to take the next step. I'll then detail why the retirement of Lions center Frank Ragnow is a devastating blow to Detroit's chances of competing for the NFC crown, a tribute to Inside the NBA after their final show on TNT along with Bryson's Best 10 TNT members of all time, and my prediction for the 2025 NBA Finals between the Indiana Pacers and the Oklahoma City Thunder!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Celtics smoking the Knicks isn’t necessarily indicative of what could happen in a potential playoff matchup, as well as the big takeaway from the Lakers’ win over the Timberwolves that not enough people are talking about. I’ll then detail an epiphany I had about Jerry Jones and the Cowboys on Carving Up the Context, why DeAndre Hopkins will revitalize the Chiefs offense in a major way after being traded to the champs, and Bryson’s Best 10 teams in the NFL entering Week 8. At the end of the show, I’ll predict tomorrow night’s matchup between the Minnesota Vikings and the Los Angeles Rams!

Panelists are Gryd contributors, Erik Ruiz, Tyler Redington, Arthur Hurst, and Paris Brown! They'll all have two minutes to discuss what has been the driving force behind the Chiefs' 6-0 start, if the Detroit Lions are the clear cut favorite in the NFC, whether the Steelers with Russell Wilson can beat out a red hot Ravens team for the AFC North, and if the Yankees/Dodgers World Series can reinvigorate the popularity of Major League Baseball! In the winner-take-all round, the top two point-getters will give their take on whether the New York Jets' season is over at 2-5!

The World Series is here! The New York Yankees and the Los Angeles Dodgers will go head-to-head in one of the most exciting fall classics in recent memory. The Yanks are coming off a suspenseful five-game series win over the scrappy Cleveland Guardians only to head to LA to take on the Dodgers, who just battled the New York Mets in a 6-game series. Who has the edge in the World Series? What can we say about the teams that fell just short? IT'S WORLD SERIES TIME BABY!! BUCKLE IN!! 

On the 5-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF CARVING IT UP, I’ll detail why the Steelers offense with Russell Wilson may have found an avenue to be fringe contenders in the AFC as well as why the Jets are officially eliminated from playoff contention, and why judging Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs 6-0 off of counting stats is disingenuous, along with an honest dissertation of who Brock Purdy is. I’ll then detail why the Detroit Lions are the clear cut favorite to win the NFC, why the Texans should feel great despite their close loss to the Packers, and why the Yankees/Dodgers World Series is the biggest shot in the arm for Major League Baseball in the 21st century. I’ll then explain why the Liberty winning the WNBA Finals represents a growing trend in sports, a recap the rest of Week 7’s NFL action and predict tonight’s Monday Night Football double dip!

The Patriots lost again to a much better team but the "Prodigal Son" Drake Maye, made his 1st career start in the NFL. He definitely had his ups & downs but there might be something there to build upon. While I did say that the season would be over after the Dolphins game...It now looks like this Jaguars game is do or die. The Bruins got off to a very inauspicious start going 2-2 in their 1st 4 games while looking like a bunch of buffoons versus the Panthers who don't only own you when it comes to the scoreboard; but they also live rent free in the Bruins heads as evident by games 1 & 4. The Red Sox have 2 Gold Glove finalists in Jarren Duran & Wilyer Abreu yet was this award based on their play or some nerd metric that doesn't take into account their play on the field? Tim's Thoughts goes into the sacrilegious thought of playing the Super Bowl in another country

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll detail why the Cowboys lost yesterday’s game to the Detroit Lions 3 years ago in 2021 and why no Cowboy looks worse today than Jerry Jones, and why the Lions are the clear cut favorite to win the NFC, as well as why it’s time to buy all the way into Caleb Williams. I’ll then detail why Nick Sirianni taunting Eagles fans yesterday all but guarantees that he won’t coach the team beyond this year, why the Bengals win over the Giants was gigantic, a recap of the rest of Sunday’s NFL games, and predictions for tonight’s AFC East matchup between the Buffalo Bills and the New York Jets!

Tonight's panelists are Gryd co-founder and All Even Podcast host, Barry Grant Jr, as well as Gryd contributors, Arthur Hurst, and Paris Brown! They'll all have two minutes to discuss if the Jets can rebound from a 2-4 start after trading for Davante Adams, who is most responsible for the Cowboys’ disastrous 47-9 loss against the Detroit Lions, how bad Nick Sirianni’s postgame antics were on a scale of 1-10, and whether the Bears are a serious playoff contender with Caleb Williams playing recent lights out football. At the end of the show, the Top 2 point-getters will argue if the Mets or Yankees have a better chance at winning the World Series this year with both playing well in the LCS.

METS ADVANCE TO NLCS, I talk about the disconnect with some Yankee fans, Machado outrage, TNF, Jets retool coaching staff and how they can be better, Russell Wilson is back! ,Week 6 predictions, Skip blames FS1, Irrelevant News of the Week and Dummy Of The Week WINNER!

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On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why Robert Saleh was fired at the wrong time, and how Aaron Rodgers having absolutely nothing to do with it is not a plausible belief on Carving Up the Context, as well as why the Chiefs are officially the most terrifying team in football after their win over the Saints. I’ll then lay out the thing that stood out to me the most about the annual NBA GM survey, Bryson’s Best 10 NFL teams entering Week 6, and my predictions for tomorrow night’s NFC West clash between the San Francisco 49ers and the Seattle Seahawks!

Tonight's panelists are Gryd co-founder and Bicoastal Baseball co-host, Mike Guido, Gryd contributor, Arthur Hurst, and Gryd co-founder, All Even Podcast host, and Season 1 champion, Barry Grant Jr! They'll all have two minutes to discuss if the Jets were right in firing Robert Saleh after their 2-3 start, how big the Cowboys win over the Steelers was on a 1-10 scale, if there should be concern for the Bills after losing to two straight playoff teams, and where the Ravens rank among the contenders in the AFC. At the end of the show, the Top 2 point-getters will argue who the NFL MVP is one month into the season!

June has arrived, and the sun is starting to burn! What's to come with this hot weather?? The Dodgers took two out of three from the Yankees in a World Series rematch! What does this series tell us about both teams? How likely are we to get a Yankees/Dodgers World Series again? With the league taking shape, buyers and sellers are becoming much clearer. Who are some teams that will be definite buyers and definite sellers come the trade deadline? PLUS Dalton's Hot Corner has a knack for finding the green!

On tonight’s CRAZY LOADED show, I’ll react to my man, Dak Prescott, breaking my heart in the Carving It Up Bowl, and why it validated everything I’ve ever said about him, as well as why Aaron Rodgers isn’t that much better than Zach Wilson was a year ago for the Jets. I’ll then detail why the 49ers can’t win the Super Bowl unless something seismic happens soon, the Ravens’ incredible win over Cincinnati, and the tipping point for the Buffalo Bills and Sean McDermott. At the end of the show, I’ll recap the rest of Sunday’s Week 5 NFL action and predict tonight’s matchup between the New Orleans Saints and the Kansas City Chiefs.

AEP is back to discuss to VP debate, Joker 2 is a damn MUSICAL, Thursday Night Football review, Davante Adams wants out of Vegas, Robert Saleh is on THIN ICE with the Jets, Rhamondre benched by Patriots, Week 5 predictions, James Hardens claim of being in great shape, Austin Reaves honest take on offseason workout videos, NBA adding "SUPERFAN" gallery to Naismith HOF, Knicks curse might be lifted by returning Legend, METS ARE A TEAM OF DESTINY!,  Irrelevant News Of The Week and Dummy Of The Week Winner!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Lions have shown themselves to be the clear cut best team in the NFC, as well as why there are only 2 teams who have a chance to land Davante Adams following the superstar’s trade request. I’ll then detail the TRUE reason that Pete Rose isn’t in the Hall of Fame on Carving Up the Context, Bryson’s Best 10 NFL teams going into Week 5, and predictions for tomorrow night’s matchup between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Atlanta Falcons.

Join the Cowboys centric show "BoysNTheZone" tonight with your host EJ Savage as he dissects the Cowboys win over the Giants on Thursday night, takes a look at week 5's matchup against the Pittsburgh Steelers, talks offensive struggles, defensive injuries, trades to consider, and dives analytically into things! Special guest & resident Steelers fan at The GRYD Network: Bryson Carver of "CarvingItUpPodcast"

Panelists are Gryd co-founder and Bicoastal Baseball co-host, Mike Guido, Boston Sports Summit host, Tim Barnard, and Gryd contributor, Paris Brown! They'll all have two minutes to discuss Sunday night football was more about the Ravens being great or the Bills being terrible, whether Aaron Rodgers or Robert Saleh is to blame for the Jets’ loss, if trading for Karl-Anthony Towns puts the Knicks at the Celtics’ level, and who will win the World Series. At the end of the show, the Top 2 point-getters will argue if the Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, or someone else is the best team in the NFC.

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll detail exactly how the Ravens have flipped the switch to being a real AFC contender, why the Jets’ loss to the Broncos proved they aren’t a serious operation, and why the Georgia Bulldogs are in trouble following their loss to Alabama. I’ll then explain why my Steelers should feel great despite their loss to the Colts, a big concern for the Chiefs after their win over the Chargers, and why the Knicks are now on equal footing with the Celtics after trading for Karl-Anthony Towns. At the end of the show, I’ll recap the rest of Sunday’s Week 4 NFL action, predictions for the MLB Wild Card Round, and predictions for tonight’s NFL primetime double dip.

IT'S TIME!! The 2024 MLB Postseason is finally upon us! Who will take home the crown as World Series champs?! With all the seeds set in place, it's time for predictions! Mike and Dalton have prepared their predictions for the playoffs and would like to hear your thoughts! Who do you think will come out on top? Also, we remember the life and career of the all-time hit leader Pete Rose.

AEP is back to discuss Janet Jackson's comments Kamala Harris, Eric Adams indicted , more Diddy news, TNF , Rex calls out Cowboys, Is Travis Kelce Done?, Were Josh Allens comments aimed at Stefon Diggs?, Dolphins not looking to move on from Tua, Hassan Reddick holdout gets weirder, Brett Favre medical condition, Derek Rose retires, My Zion apology, Knicks make BIG TRADE, Irrelevant News Of The Week and Dummy OF The Week Winner!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Bills’ blowout win over Jacksonville is a huge statement, but not for the reasons you might think, and why the Jaguars are in the biggest funk of any team in football, as well as how the Bengals still have an opportunity to turn their season around despite starting 0-3. I’ll then invite Sports PSP Podcast host, Parnell Saint-Preux to the show to discuss his Commanders’ impressive win and why it may have been Jayden Daniels’ coming out party. I’ll then detail why the Matthew Sluka situation at UNLV shows we have a very long way to go in the realm of NIL, Bryson’s Best 10 NFL teams entering Week 4, and predictions for tomorrow night’s matchup between the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Giants.

What the hell is happening to The Dallas Cowboys? I recap the demoralizing loss to the Baltimore Ravens, Look ahead to the NY Giants, and talk about what changes need to be made moving forward!

In this episode of The 8 O'Clock Spot, Bryson Carver returns from Florida to host the show with contestants Arthur Hurst, Paris Brown, and Barry Grant Jr! They'll each have 2 minutes to discuss whether anyone can stop the dominant OKC Thunder as they are 1 win away from the NBA Finals, if Anthony Edwards’ “face of the league” case is taking a hit, who’s more clutch between Tyrese Haliburton and Jalen Brunson, and if they’re happy that the NFL voted to keep the Eagles’ famous Tush Push. In the winner-take-all round, the top two point getters will debate which rule in sports they would change if they were the commissioner.

Panelists are Gryd co-founder and Bicoastal Baseball co-host, Mike Guido, Boston Sports Summit host, Tim Barnard, and Gryd contributor, Arthur Hurst! They'll all have two minutes to discuss if the Cowboys should be in panic mode after their tough loss to the Ravens, whether the Bengals season is over at 0-3, and if they’re impressed by the Philadelphia Eagles following their close win against the previously undefeated Saints. At the end of the show, the Top 2 point-getters will detail if the Buffalo Bills are the biggest threat to the back-to-back champion Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC.

IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!! We have officially reached the final week of the regular season, and with just a few games left to go, there's still plenty to be decided! The division races have mostly been finalized, but the Wild Card is anybody's game. The Dodgers and Padres are approaching a massive 3-game set that could decide the NL West. Who comes out on top? The Diamondbacks, the Mets, and the Braves are separated by just two games for the final two NL Wild Card spots. Who gets in and who goes home early? The Detroit Tigers have made a late push for the postseason, tying the Royals and going up a game on the Twins with the Mariners trailing by just two games. Who will we see round out the AL side of the bracket? Shohei Ohtani became the first ever player with 50 homers and 50 stolen bases. Is he better than Babe Ruth and is this the best offensive year ever? PLUS Dalton hands out a bet in his hot corner to help put more money in your pocket.

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Cowboys’ loss to the Ravens validates the fact that Dak Prescott is carrying the entire franchise on his back, as well as a very simple-to-understand nuance as to why the missed PI call against the Chiefs didn’t cost the Falcons the game. I’ll then detail why my Steelers’ 3-0 start is not a mirage and how they can win the AFC North, a discussion with Blogging the Boys writer, Roel Ochoa from SB Nation to about the Cowboys’ loss to Baltimore, and why 49ers fans should feel fantastic despite their close loss to the Rams. I’ll then react to the rest of Sunday’s Week 3 action, and then predict tonight’s MNF double dip!

All Even Podcast is back to discuss Diddy and the raid of his home, Mark Robinson is an embarrassment, TNF and the Jets cooking the Pats, Bryce Young benched and it's about time, Brady had the Bucs walking on eggshells, WEEK 3 Preview, Woj leaves NBA, Embiid gets paid, Ben Simmons returns, Irrelevant News of the Week and Dummy Of The Week WINNER!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why there’s one key aspect of the Jets’ blowout win over the Patriots that should make New York fans optimistic, as well as why Shohei Ohtani is the best baseball player of all time. I’ll then invite Thomas Christopher of SB Nation to discuss the Jets’ outlook on the 2024 season, Aaron Rodgers’ awkward moment with Robert Saleh, and whether this team can compete for something beyond a playoff spot. I’ll detail why Tennessee could have a legitimate case as being the best team in college football on The Vol View, why Caitlin Clark met my rookie season expectations for her, and then predict Sunday’s Week 3 NFL action including Bryson’s Bleak Bet, Upset of the Week, and “If I Were a Bettin’ Man!”

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Eagles loss to the Falcons falls squarely on the shoulders of Nick Sirianni, Kellen Moore, and Jalen Hurts, as well as why Kirk Cousins a deserves a ton of credit for a major hurdle he’s seemed to overcome. I’ll then detail why the Carolina Panthers failed Bryce Young in epic fashion on Carving Up the Context, Bryson’s Best 10 NFL teams headed into Week 3, and predictions for tomorrow night’s matchup between the New England Patriots and the New York Jets!

The Patriots ARE BACK!! They got off to a hot start against the Bengals but fell flat on their face against the Seahawks on Sunday. They got a big time matchup tomorrow versus the NY Jets & I am not so confident they can take advantage of a struggling Jets team. Meanwhile the Bruins announce that Swayman will not be at Camp due to not being close to a deal & Sweeny had a few words on that. The Celtics are still ip for sale & the rumors are true according to the NY Post talking about how Wyc & his father have 2 very different views on the matter of paying players. Lastly the Red Sox, unfortunately, are where I thought they would be at the start of the season; in contention for last place...AGAIN!! What was to be a promising season w/ a potential playoff entry, has all but been nuked since the All-Star break. Don't be fooled if this team tries to sell a bill of goods, that they're trajectory is looking up!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Chiefs’ 26-25 win over the Bengals is bad news for the rest of the NFL and why the term “lucky” simply doesn’t apply to them, as well as how the Jets’ tight win over the Titans showed us even more bad signs about what is sure to be a bad season for New York. I’ll then detail why the Cowboys’ blowout loss to the Saints raises huge concerns about the team’s offseason, why I liked what I saw at times from Caleb Williams against the Texans, and a defining stretch in Brock Purdy’s young career. At the end of the show, I’ll recap the rest of Sunday’s Week 2 action and predict tonight’s Monday night matchup between the Atlanta Falcons and the Philadelphia Eagles!

With a bit more than two weeks left in the regular season, it's crunch time for teams vying for a playoff spot! Some postseason spots we can assume could be set in stone, but others are definitely up for grabs. The Dodgers have had trouble staying healthy all season, especially in the rotation. What can they do about their rotation in the playoffs? The Braves and Mets are tied for the final Wild Card spot in the NL. Who comes out on top and who would have more success in the postseason? Is it possible the Tigers could steal a Wild Card spot in the AL? Who could be in jeopardy of falling out of the race? PLUS don't miss Dalton's Hot Corner, as he gives you more bets to help put more money in your pocket.

AEP is back to discuss The Presidential Debate, The Pope's political opinion, Shannon Sharpes viral moment, TNF , Tua needs to retire, Week 2 matchup picks, Dwayne Wade gets a statue, Lakers signing a young big, Irrelevant News of the Week and Dummy Of The Week WINNER!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why Tyrese Haliburton is actually underrated after his masterful Game 4 performance against the Knicks as well as how the Thunder are very similarly constructed to the 90s Chicago Bulls. I’ll then detail why legendary QB Terry Bradshaw’s irritation with Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers is completely justified, what Shams Charania’s report of the “craziest NBA offseason” could mean, and why Caitlin Clark has a true rival in Paige Bueckers.

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Cowboys’ win over the Browns was a testament to Dak Prescott and Mike McCarthy as well as why I absolutely loved every second of Cleveland’s horrible offensive showing with Deshaun Watson, and how the Lions’ overtime win over the Rams was a testament to the culture and the identity that Dan Campbell has set in Detroit. I’ll then detail why Caleb Williams’ rough debut against the Titans shouldn’t be a cause for concern moving forward, how the Packers can stay alive without Jordan Love for the next few weeks, and a reaction to the rest of Sunday’s Week 1 NFL games along with my predictions for tonight’s Monday Night Football opener between the New York Jets and the San Francisco 49ers!

AEP Is BACK to Discuss Angel Reese vs Caitlin Clark fanbases, The Georgia School Shooting, Dame Dash's Dentures, TNF review, Brazil Game , NFL Sunday preview, Shaq is right about Rudy Gobert, Nuggets and Malone are rumored ro be at odds, Irrelevant News Of The Week and Dummy Of The Week WINNER!!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll explain why the Chiefs’ tight win over the Ravens was just a more aesthetically pleasing version of last year’s AFC Championship Game and why it could screw up the Ravens’ season, as well as why Lamar Jackson is getting too much of a pass for his performance in the game. I’ll then invite Ryan Flowers of Clutch Sports Talk to the show to discuss last night’s game, storylines for the new NFL season, and a special announcement from Ryan himself. The Vol View will break down why Tennessee’s game against NC State can put Nico Iamaleava at the forefront of the early season Heisman discussion, as well as my Week 1 NFL predictions including my Upset of the Week, Bryson’s Bleak Bet, and for the first time, 3 GAMES for my favorite segment, “If I Were a Bettin’ Man.”

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll detail why the conversation surrounding Caitlin Clark’s status as one of the best players in the WNBA has officially gone delusional, as well as why Tom Brady will be exceptional in the broadcast booth for FOX. I’ll then detail on Carving Up the Context how the result of Thursday’s season-opener in Kansas City will define the Ravens’ season, Bryson’s Best 10 NFL teams entering Week 1, and predictions for the NFL’s opening game of 2024, between the Baltimore Ravens and the back-to-back Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs.

On this year's edition of the Carving It Up NFL Kickoff Show, I’ll discuss all of the biggest NFL headlines going into the season and things to keep an eye out for. And then, I will predict the records of all 32 teams, who wins each respective division, season award winners, and playoff results which concludes with both predicting who will get to, and win Super Bowl LIX.

NFL PREVIEW SHOW! AEP is back to discuss Kamala's first sit-down interview with CNN, Angel Reese cant score and i'm tired of the overhype, JLO is for the streets and then THE ULTIMATE NFL SEASON PREVIEW SHOW! I breakdown every division with my guy Six. Irrelevent News Of The Week and DUMMY OF THE WEEK WINNER!

On tonight’s LOADED show, I’ll detail why NFL players are justified in ranking Josh Allen as the most overrated quarterback in the NFL, as well as why it’s smart for my Steelers to start Russell Wilson and why he should be the guy all season long. I’ll then detail why Caitlin Clark’s recent dominant stretch shows why it was good for her not to be on Team USA on Carving Up the Context, what Shohei Ohtani’s 40/40 season says about the Dodgers superstar, and why adding Dalvin Cook won’t do much good for the Cowboys running game. At the end of the show, I’ll lay out the biggest strength and weakness of every AFC & NFC North team entering 2024.

This is the most improved division in the NFL. A plethora of young quarterbacks and some under the radar teams, this is the AFC South! The Houston Texans are primed to take their next steps as kings of the AFC South. The Indianapolis Colts, with a young quarterback in Anthony Richardson and head coach Shane Steichen will have something to say about that. The Jacksonville Jaguars have a lot to prove and a lot of pressure to meet high levels of expectations. The Tennessee Titans I think, will play it by ear with quarterback Will Levis and see how well this team performs with Levis under center.

Arguably the best division in the NFL. The AFC North has 4 teams that are viable playoff contenders. Can Lamar Jackson and the Ravens stay on top of the division or will a new team take the crown from them. How will Joe Burrow bounce back after an injury. Will Deshaun Watson live up to his contract. Finally, can you really count out the Steelers?

Timestamps: Intro 0:00-1:01

Cincinnati Bengals 1:02-3:59

Pittsburgh Steelers 4:00-7:55

Baltimore Ravens 7:56-11:27

Cleveland Browns 11:28-15:03

Division Predictions 15:04-17:56

Outro 17:57-18:30

Hello! We're back with a special video for you guys today! Cameron "The Battle Giraffe" Rowston joins us to talk about his fight this Tuesday on Dana White's Contender Series vs. Torrez Finney!

It was an eventful week in baseball, and the show is absolutely jam-packed! The Subway Series concluded with the Yankees taking two out of three games against the Mets in the Bronx. What does that say about both teams? Does Juan Soto seem different as a Met than as a Yankee? Pete Rose is officially unbanned from baseball? Should he be inducted into the Hall of Fame? Will the Pirates end up trading star pitcher Paul Skenes? The Dodgers gave up 23 runs in three games against the Angels this weekend. Do you think we should be concerned about their pitching? PLUS Dalton can fatten up that wallet with his picks in the hot corner.

Join myself (EJ Savage) and StarGazer Sports Media (@TheStarGaz3rr) as we discuss some important conversations surrounding the Dallas Cowboys.

Hello! We're back with another episode and today we'll be looking back at UFC 305 and also week 2 of the contender series that just took place.

Hello! We’re back with a special interview! Michael Aswell joins us to chop it up before his fight on Dana Whites Contender Series this Tuesday!!! (8/27)