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From PCOS to PMOS: What the Name Change Means for You with Professor Helena Teede20 May 202600:37:30

In this special episode of The Fertility Podcast, we've gone back into our archives for 2024 to share a conversation Kate Davies (former co-host and fertility nurse consultant) had with Professor Helena Teede all the way from Australia!

Helena is one of the authors of the International PCOS Guidelines and is here to talk about the changes to the PCOS guidelines and the proposed PCOS name change, which has now happened.

What is discussed:
  • PCOS in general, chatting about the symptoms of PCOS, both the common ones and the not so common
  • Weight stigma and how the new guidelines move away from this and instead why we should be helping women to just be healthy to manage their PCOS proactively
  • Potential risks around pregnancy and that it is not often identified, as well as the support for pregnant women with PCOS, or sadly the lack of
  • How Helena supported two men with PCOS, and the steps she takes to help them manage their condition and optimise fertility
  • Diets and eating right as Helena explains that there is no one diet, or right way to eat when it comes to PCOS, and opinions on the supplement Inositol
  • The proposed PCOS name change and how PCOS is not an ovarian disease so therefore the name is incorrect

Socials and links:

About Verity: the UK's only PCOS charity

Verity is the UK's only charity dedicated to Polyendocrine Metabolic Ovarian Syndrome (PMOS), formerly known as PCOS. Founded in 1997, Verity is completely self-funded and exists to help everyone living with PMOS understand their condition, manage their symptoms and reduce the risk of long-term health complications. They offer evidence-based information, community support, local support groups and an anonymous online forum.


About Fertility Action

The Fertility Podcast is the official podcast for Fertility Action, the UK's charity providing education, support and campaigning for fairer access to fertility treatment. They run free peer support groups every week, no sign-up or commitment needed.


Support the Three Peaks Challenge

Natalie is climbing Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and Snowdon in 24 hours to raise funds for Fertility Action. If this podcast has helped you in any way, even a small donation would mean a lot and you will get a shout-out on the podcast.

Here's how you can donate

Happy 1st Birthday Fertility Action13 May 202600:47:36

One year in. And what a year it has been.

In this episode I am joined by Katie Rollings, founder of Fertility Action, to mark the charity's first birthday. We talk about everything from the support groups that have quietly changed people's lives, to the campaign work happening at the highest levels of government, to what Katie believes the next big push needs to be: a national fertility strategy.

This is a conversation full of hope. There is still so much to do, but the momentum is real, the people are extraordinary, and the case for change has never been stronger.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • What Fertility Action has achieved in its first year and the stories that have kept Katie going
  • How the support groups actually work and why showing up with your camera off is completely fine
  • The Trying to Conceive group, the Positive Test and Beyond group, the Secondary Infertility group and what each one has become
  • The in-person walk-and-talk meetups in London and Manchester
  • The woman who found her best friend through a Fertility Action support group
  • Why the Life After Treatment group has been harder to grow and what Fertility Action is learning from that
  • The South Asian support group and why in-person connection is what that community really needs
  • The new NICE guidelines and the change that barely made the headlines: up to six cycles in selected patients
  • Why campaigning at ICB level has not worked and why Fertility Action is now pushing for central commissioning
  • How fertility treatment compares across Europe and why the UK is falling behind
  • Why fertility still sits awkwardly between the Women's Health Strategy and the Men's Health Strategy and gets properly covered in neither
  • Why Katie believes the UK urgently needs its own national fertility strategy
  • The education project Fertility Action has launched with colleges and the National Education Union
  • The moment a 17-year-old student challenged them in a college debate and what happened next
  • The Three Peaks Challenge: why Katie chose it, who is doing it and how to donate
  • Fertility Action's birthday celebrations and what the next two years look like
  • How to get involved as a volunteer

About Katie Rollings and Fertility Action

Katie Rollings is the founder of Fertility Action, the UK's newest fertility charity, now celebrating its first birthday. Fertility Action provides free peer support groups, education and advocacy for the one in six people struggling to conceive. All of the team are volunteers and every penny raised goes directly into building more services for patients.

Find out more and access support: fertilityaction.org

Follow Fertility Action on Instagram: @fertilityaction

Fertility Action support groups

All groups are free, online and run every week. There is no expectation to keep showing up. You can come with your camera off. You can just sit in the chat. It is as low-pressure as it gets.

  • Trying to Conceive (Tuesdays and Thursdays)
  • Positive Test and Beyond
  • Secondary Infertility
  • Life After Treatment
  • South Asian Fertility Support (developing)

Sign up at fertilityaction.org

Birthday celebrations

Fertility Action is holding two celebrations for its first birthday:

  • A formal event with clinical partners and supporters
  • Quiz and Fizz at Fisher's Farm on 23 May, open to the wider community

Get involved

Fertility Action is a grassroots, all-volunteer charity and they need help across everything from research and communications to events and policy. If you have skills and a bit of time to offer, they would love to hear from you.

Get in touch at fertilityaction.org

This episode is sponsored by Wild Nutrition

I know how overwhelming it can be knowing which supplements to buy when you are trying to conceive. That is exactly why I appreciate what Wild Nutrition offers: free one-to-one consultations with nutritional therapists so you get guidance that is genuinely tailored to your situation. Their supplements are formulated for optimal absorption, with 31 carefully selected nutrients including folate, zinc and B vitamins, and are trusted by over 50,000 couples.

As a listener of The Fertility Podcast, you can get:

  • 50% off Wild Nutrition supplements for 3 months
  • A free personal consultation with an expert nutritional therapist

Visit wildnutrition.com/fertilitypodcast to get started. Terms and conditions apply.

Support the Three Peaks Challenge

I am joining Katie and a brilliant group of people from across the fertility sector to climb Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and Snowdon in 24 hours in June, raising funds for Fertility Action. Every donation, however small, goes directly towards building more support services for people going through this. And yes, I will be giving you a shout-out on the podcast if you donate.

Here's how you can donate

Stay connected

Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy

If you haven't already, please subscribe and leave a review. It really helps more people find the podcast.

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes. Until next time 💛

BONUS EPISODE: Secondary Infertility: The Hidden Struggle07 May 202600:26:20

A branded mini series in partnership with Wild Nutrition, celebrating the launch of The Fertility Disconnect report.

Secondary infertility does not get the airtime it deserves. And yet, according to The Fertility Disconnect report, 79% of people say they want more children than they currently have. For those with one child, that figure rises to 88%.

In this final episode of the Wild Nutrition mini series, Gail and I go deep on one of the most underserved conversations in the fertility space. Gail shares her own ongoing experience of secondary infertility, including her adenomyosis diagnosis, the emotional weight of wanting to grow her family while already being a parent, and why the medical system often leaves people with one child to fend for themselves.

This is also a conversation about recovery. About what pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding and parenthood actually do to the body nutritionally, and why so many of us enter a second conception journey already depleted without realising it. Secondary infertility is where I find myself too, and it is a topic I have been asked to talk about more. I am so glad we finally did.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • What secondary infertility actually is and why it gets so little attention
  • Gail's own experience: breastfeeding, cycles returning, a new adenomyosis diagnosis and the emotional complexity of wanting a second child
  • Why having one child often means you fall outside the criteria for NHS fertility support
  • The injustice of not qualifying for IVF if your partner already has a child from a previous relationship
  • Key stats from The Fertility Disconnect: 79% of respondents want more children than they have; 88% among those with one child
  • Why people delay growing their family and how biological timelines do not always align with life circumstances
  • What pregnancy, birth, postpartum and breastfeeding do to nutrient stores and why recovery is so often skipped
  • The specific tests and checks Gail recommends for anyone struggling to conceive a second time
  • Why thyroid health and iron are the two most common deficiencies she sees in postpartum women
  • The increased likelihood of endometriosis, fibroids and adenomyosis diagnoses after childbirth
  • How to start preparing your body again: the foundations of a recovery and preconception plan
  • Why blood sugar balance, three solid meals a day and sleep are not optional
  • The relationship strain that comes with secondary infertility and why therapy can be a real part of the toolkit
  • How to navigate the language around having one child and find the words that work for you
  • Fertility in the workplace: what support is increasingly available and why it matters
  • What Gail would want anyone feeling alone in this to hear

Key stats from The Fertility Disconnect report
  • 79% of respondents said they want more children than they currently have
  • 88% of those with one child said they want more
  • 26% cited career progression as a reason for delaying growing their family
  • 25% pointed to housing constraints and affordability as barriers

Links mentioned in this episode

The Fertility Disconnect report by Wild Nutrition:


Free fertility consultation with Wild Nutrition:


Exclusive listener offer:

  • 50% off Wild Nutrition supplements for 3 months
  • A free personal consultation with an expert nutritional therapist

Visit wildnutrition.com/fertilitypodcast to get started. Terms and conditions apply.

About Gail Madalena

Gail Madalena is a fertility and cycle health specialist and registered nutritional therapist with deep expertise in IVF, recurrent miscarriage and unexplained infertility. She supports women through conception, pregnancy and postpartum with tailored, evidence-based guidance and works with Wild Nutrition to offer personalised consultations for those trying to conceive.

Missed the other episodes in this mini series?
  • Episode 1: Understanding Your Fertility Health
  • Episode 2: Weight, Nutrition & the Road to Conception

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes. Until next time 💛

BONUS EPISODE: Weight, Nutrition & the Road to Conception07 May 202600:30:38

A branded mini series in partnership with Wild Nutrition, celebrating the launch of The Fertility Disconnect report.

Weight and fertility is one of the most charged, confusing and often poorly handled topics in reproductive health. I have spoken to so many people who have been told to lose weight in order to access funded treatment, sent away with no guidance on how to actually do that. And all the while, the internet is full of conflicting advice, fad diets and quick fixes that can make the whole thing feel completely overwhelming.

In this second episode of the Wild Nutrition mini series, I am joined again by Gail Madalena, fertility and cycle health specialist and registered nutritional therapist, to cut through the noise. They cover everything from ultra-processed foods and GLP-1 medications to mitochondrial health, exercise, rest, and how to actually rebuild your body between cycles.

This is not about restriction or guilt. It is about understanding what your body actually needs and finding an approach you can sustain. I hope it helps.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • Why the weight and fertility conversation is so often handled badly by medical professionals
  • The stigma around weight and why so many people feel they are not being taken seriously
  • Why BMI is such a divisive and limited measure of health
  • What metabolic health actually means and why it matters so much for fertility
  • The problem with fad diets and starvation mode when trying to conceive
  • Ultra-processed foods: what the research actually says about their impact on fertility
  • The stat from The Fertility Disconnect report: over 60% of the average UK diet is made up of ultra-processed foods
  • How UPFs drive inflammation, oxidative stress and poor sperm and egg quality
  • Practical strategies for reducing ultra-processed foods without overhauling your whole life
  • What mitochondria are and why they are central to egg quality and early embryo development
  • Why the egg is the largest cell in the body and demands an enormous amount of energy to ovulate
  • How blood sugar balance, antioxidants and healthy fats support mitochondrial health
  • GLP-1 medications: what people trying to conceive really need to understand
  • When GLP-1s can be a useful preconception tool and when to stop taking them
  • How to protect nutrient status and hormone health while using GLP-1s
  • Exercise and fertility: why high intensity training can elevate cortisol and affect progesterone
  • Why strength training and daily walking may serve you better than five gym sessions a week
  • The vagal nerve and why switching on your parasympathetic nervous system matters for conception
  • Mindfulness, rest and recovery: finding what actually works for you
  • Environmental and lifestyle factors: starting small rather than overhauling everything at once
  • Rebuilding nutrient stores between cycles and why recovery time is often overlooked
  • Why being kind to yourself is not soft advice, it is clinical advice

A note on GLP-1 medications

GLP-1s came up in consultations with Wild Nutrition clients frequently enough that Gail wanted to address them directly. The key things to know if you are trying to conceive:

  • You cannot take GLP-1 medications while actively trying to conceive
  • In the preconception window, they can be a useful tool for shifting weight, reducing inflammation and supporting metabolic health, particularly for those with PCOS, endometriosis or fibroids
  • Aim for gradual, micro-dosed weight loss rather than rapid loss
  • Prioritise protein intake, movement and nutrient density while taking them
  • Coming off them requires a plan to maintain the healthy habits built during that period

Links mentioned in this episode

The Fertility Disconnect report by Wild Nutrition:


Free fertility consultation with Wild Nutrition:


Exclusive listener offer:

  • 50% off Wild Nutrition supplements for 3 months
  • A free personal consultation with an expert nutritional therapist

Visit wildnutrition.com/fertilitypodcast to get started. Terms and conditions apply.

About Gail Madalena

Gail Madalena is a fertility and cycle health specialist and registered nutritional therapist with deep expertise in IVF, recurrent miscarriage and unexplained infertility. She combines advanced functional medicine training with her own lived experience of a three-year conception journey and works with Wild Nutrition to offer personalised consultations for those trying to conceive.

About this mini series

This is a three-part branded mini series in partnership with Wild Nutrition. If you missed the first episode, go back and listen:

  • Episode 1: Understanding Your Fertility Health
  • Episode 3: Secondary Infertility: The Hidden Struggle (coming next)

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes. Until next time 💛

BONUS EPISODE: Understanding Your Fertility Health07 May 202600:30:31

A branded mini series in partnership with Wild Nutrition, celebrating the launch of The Fertility Disconnect report.

What do over 1,000 women in the UK who have tried to conceive in the past five years actually know about their own fertility? The answer, according to Wild Nutrition's brand new Fertility Disconnect report, might surprise you.

In this first episode of our mini series, I sit down with Gail Madalena, fertility and cycle health specialist and registered nutritional therapist, to unpack the most striking findings from the report and what they mean for anyone on a conception journey right now.

Gail also shares her own story: a decade in fashion PR, a lifestyle that was not serving her body, a husband who was a personal trainer and still found himself in the dark, a PCOS misdiagnosis, a low sperm count diagnosis with no follow-up advice, and over three years of trying before finally conceiving during an IVF cycle. It is a conversation I loved having, blending clinical expertise with real, lived experience.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • The Fertility Disconnect report: what it found and why it matters
  • Why 41% of women did not know when their fertile window was
  • Why 60% of respondents were completely unaware of fertility testing options available to them
  • The gap in sex education: preparing for pregnancy vs preventing it
  • How the oral contraceptive pill and years of cycle suppression leave women without the basics
  • Gail's own journey: PCOS misdiagnosis, her husband's low sperm count, and three years of trying
  • The single most impactful thing you can do for your egg or sperm health right now
  • What a genuinely fertility-supportive diet looks like in practice
  • The Mediterranean diet and the research behind it for fertility outcomes
  • Why 76% of people are not meeting their Omega 3 recommendations
  • Why 40% of reproductive-age people are low in folate
  • The alcohol conversation: what the research says and how to be realistic about it
  • Navigating fertility nutrition across different cultural food traditions
  • The biggest myth in fertility: that it is mostly a female issue
  • The 50% fall in average sperm count since the 1970s
  • Fertility as a whole body event: hormones, gut health, liver function, microbiome and more
  • What blood tests can actually tell you and why ultrasounds matter more than people think
  • How to push back when your GP dismisses you and what private testing can add
  • What a free consultation with Wild Nutrition actually looks like

Key stats from The Fertility Disconnect report
  • 41% of respondents did not know when their fertile window was
  • 16.7% did not know the length of their own cycle
  • Only 1 in 5 said they know a lot about egg health
  • 60% were completely unaware of fertility testing options available to them
  • Up to 10% of Gen Z respondents said they know nothing about fertility
  • 76% are not meeting Omega 3 recommendations
  • 40% of people in reproductive age are low in folate
  • 32% only reduced alcohol once they had actively started trying to conceive
  • Around 1 in 5 men are estimated to have a sperm count below WHO guidelines
  • Since the 1970s, average sperm count has fallen by around 50%

Links mentioned in this episode

The Fertility Disconnect report by Wild Nutrition:


Free fertility consultation with Wild Nutrition:


Exclusive listener offer:

  • 50% off Wild Nutrition supplements for 3 months
  • A free personal consultation with an expert nutritional therapist

Visit wildnutrition.com/fertilitypodcast to get started. Terms and conditions apply.

About Gail Madalena

Gail Madalena is a fertility and cycle health specialist and registered nutritional therapist with deep expertise in IVF, recurrent miscarriage and unexplained infertility. Her approach combines advanced functional medicine training with her own lived experience of a three-year conception journey. She supports women through conception, pregnancy and postpartum with tailored, evidence-based guidance and works with Wild Nutrition to offer personalised consultations for those trying to conceive.

About this mini series

This is a three-part branded mini series in partnership with Wild Nutrition. The next two episodes cover:

  • Episode 2: Weight, Nutrition & the Road to Conception
  • Episode 3: Secondary Infertility: The Hidden Struggle

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes. Until next time 💛

From Flare Ups to Fuel: Eating for Endometriosis with Jane Aherne06 May 202600:32:41

If you have Endometriosis, you will know that the pain and fatigue can feel relentless. In our episode last week, we discussed consideration around egg freezing and IVF for Endo Warriors with Dr Shirin Khanjani. This week, we're bringing it right down to what you're eating day to day as the right approach to food can make a real difference to how your body manages inflammation, metabolises hormones and supports you through the difficult days.

In this episode I am joined by Jane Aherne, a Registered Nutritionist with an MSc in Nutrition from the University of Westminster. Jane specialises in fertility, reproductive conditions and chronic inflammation, and has worked with women dealing with endometriosis and PCOS across functional medicine environments including IVF Matters and TIC Health.

This is not about a restrictive diet or a long list of rules. It is about understanding why certain foods make your symptoms worse, why others help, and how to make small, sustainable changes that your body will actually thank you for.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • Why Endometriosis and chronic inflammation are so closely linked
  • The difference between pro-inflammatory and anti-inflammatory foods and why it matters
  • Why Omega 3 is Jane's first recommendation for almost every client with endo
  • The best food sources of Omega 3 and what to do if you are vegan or do not eat fish
  • The role of the Mediterranean diet in reducing inflammation
  • Why trans fats, ultra-processed foods and alcohol can actively worsen symptoms
  • How gut health and liver function affect the way your body processes oestrogen
  • The blood sugar spike and crash cycle: why it matters so much in an inflammatory environment
  • How constant blood sugar spikes can drive insulin resistance and compound existing inflammation
  • Why comfort eating during flare ups can actually make things worse and what to do instead
  • Practical swaps: dates, nuts, seeds, high protein meals and how to make them work in real life
  • Why how you eat can be just as important as what you eat
  • Mindful eating, stress and the rest-and-digest response
  • Planning and preparation for shift workers and people on the go
  • Balancing oestrogen naturally through fibre, cruciferous vegetables and liver-supporting foods
  • How soon you can expect to feel the benefits of dietary changes
  • Why there is no single perfect diet for endometriosis and what personalisation actually looks like
  • The biggest misconception Jane wants to set the record straight on
  • Jane's one piece of advice if you can only do one thing

Jane's five small changes to start this week
  • Add two portions of oily fish (salmon, sardines, mackerel) or a quality Omega 3 supplement
  • Increase fibre gradually through whole grains, fruits, vegetables and legumes
  • Include more cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower and kale for oestrogen metabolism
  • Swap high-sugar snacks for a date with a Brazil nut or a handful of mixed nuts and seeds
  • Sit down for meals away from screens and allow your body to move into rest-and-digest mode Jane on Insta

This episode is sponsored by Wild Nutrition

I know how overwhelming it can be figuring out which supplements actually make sense for your body, especially when you are already managing a condition like endometriosis. That is exactly why I rate what Wild Nutrition offers. Their all-women team of nutritional therapists provide free one-to-one consultations so you get support that is genuinely tailored to you, not just a generic recommendation.

Their supplements are formulated for optimal absorption, with 31 carefully selected nutrients including folate, zinc and B vitamins, and are trusted by over 50,000 couples.

As a listener of The Fertility Podcast, you can get:

  • 50% off Wild Nutrition supplements for 3 months
  • A free personal consultation with an expert nutritional therapist

Visit wildnutrition.com/fertilitypodcast to get started. Terms and conditions apply.

Support and resources

The Fertility Podcast is the official podcast for Fertility Action, a charity providing education, support and campaigning for fairer access to fertility treatment. They run free weekly drop-in support groups, and you do not need to commit, you can just show up.

Support the podcast

I am climbing the Three Peaks in June to raise funds for Fertility Action. Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and Snowdon in 24 hours. If this podcast has helped you in any way, even a small donation would mean the world and I will give you a shout-out on the next episode.

Here's how you can donate

Stay connected

Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy

If you haven't already, please subscribe and leave a review. It really helps more people find the podcast.

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes. Until next time 💛

Endo, Eggs and IVF: the conversation we should all be having29 Apr 202600:32:59

If you have endometriosis and you’re thinking about your fertility, this is one of those conversations I really want you to hear.

In this episode, I sat down with Dr. Shirin Khanjani, Consultant Gynaecologist and accredited subspecialist in reproductive medicine and surgery, to properly unpack what’s actually going on when endometriosis and fertility collide.

This chat comes off the back of the government’s Renewed Women’s Health Strategy, which has once again highlighted just how many women are still being dismissed, delayed, or left without answers. And when it comes to endometriosis, the reality is still pretty shocking. On average, it takes seven to eight years to get a diagnosis.

So this episode is about what happens next. Once you finally have that diagnosis, what do you actually need to know?

We talk through everything, from how surgery can affect your egg reserve, to why IVF isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach for endometriosis patients, to the emotional weight of trying to navigate all of this at the same time.

What we cover in this episode

  • Why endometriosis has been one of the biggest gaps in women’s health and how that is slowly starting to shift
  • The many different ways endometriosis can show up, from period pain to IBS, fatigue, back pain and infertility
  • Why diagnosis still takes years and what you can do to advocate for yourself
  • What to ask for at GP level and how to push for proper investigations
  • The nuance around surgery and when it can help fertility or potentially reduce egg reserve
  • What happens to ovarian reserve when chocolate cysts are removed
  • Why fertility preservation, like egg or embryo freezing, should be considered before surgery in some cases
  • How endometriosis changes IVF protocols and why specialist care matters
  • The impact of fluid-filled tubes on implantation and when surgery becomes necessary
  • The emotional and psychological toll of managing endometriosis alongside fertility treatment
  • Why continuity of care makes such a difference to outcomes
  • Common misconceptions around natural conception with endometriosis
  • Why waiting too long without investigation can cost valuable reproductive time
  • The impact of endometriosis in the workplace and why awareness still matters

Why endometriosis and IVF is not one-size-fits-all

One of the biggest takeaways from this conversation is that standard IVF pathways don’t always apply if you have endometriosis.

Dr. Khanjani explains that specialist protocols often need to include:

  • Managing oestrogen levels carefully during stimulation
  • Navigating more complex egg collections due to scar tissue or cysts
  • Using antibiotics during egg collection to reduce inflammation risk
  • Supporting the body after collection to keep endometriosis under control

Her advice is simple but important. When you walk into a clinic, ask directly if they have specific protocols for endometriosis patients. If they don’t, that tells you something.

Misconceptions we really need to clear up

There are a few things Dr. Khanjani is very clear on:

  • You can still fall pregnant naturally with endometriosis. The chances may be lower, but it’s not impossible
  • Egg quality is not automatically worse. IVF outcomes can be comparable once eggs are retrieved
  • Surgery is not always the first step. In some cases, it can delay treatment or reduce egg reserve
  • Being told to “just keep trying” without investigation can waste valuable time
  • There isn’t one perfect pathway. Everything needs to be individualised

About Dr. Shirin Khanjani

Dr. Shirin Khanjani is a Consultant Gynaecologist and accredited subspecialist in reproductive medicine and surgery.

She holds a PhD from Imperial College London and is an Honorary Associate Professor at University College London. In her NHS role at UCLH, she focuses on low ovarian reserve, recurrent implantation failure and endometriosis.

She is also a co-founder of Fitzrovia Fertility, a London clinic built around genuinely personalised, evidence-based care.

Find out more:

https://fitzroviafertility.co.uk

https://fitzroviafertility.co.uk/about-us

Why this conversation matters

I hear from so many of you who’ve been dismissed, misdiagnosed, or passed from one specialist to another for years.

By the time you get to a fertility clinic, you’re often already exhausted, anxious, and unsure who to trust.

This episode is about helping you feel more informed and more prepared. So when you walk into those conversations, you know what to ask and what to look out for.

This episode is for you if you are:

  • Newly diagnosed and trying to understand what this means for your fertility
  • Considering surgery and want to understand the impact on your egg reserve
  • About to start IVF and unsure whether your clinic has the specialist knowledge needed
  • Trying to conceive and being told to wait without investigation
  • Supporting someone navigating all of the above

Support and resources

The Fertility Podcast is the official podcast for Fertility Action, a charity providing education, support and campaigning for fairer access to fertility treatment.

Fertility Action runs free drop-in support sessions twice a week. No sign-up needed.

This episode is sponsored by Wild Nutrition

Navigating supplements when you are trying to conceive can feel overwhelming.

Wild Nutrition offers free one-to-one consultations with nutritional therapists so your support is tailored to your specific situation.

Their supplements are formulated for optimal absorption, with 31 carefully selected nutrients including folate, zinc and B vitamins, and are trusted by over 50,000 couples.

As a listener of The Fertility Podcast, you can get:

  • 50% off for 3 months
  • A free personal consultation

Visit: https://wildnutrition.com/fertilitypodcast

Terms and conditions apply

Support the podcast

I’m climbing the Three Peaks this June to raise funds for Fertility Action. Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and Snowdon in 24 hours.

If this podcast has helped you in any way, even a small donation would mean a lot and you’ll get a shout-out on a future episode.

Here's how you can donate:

Everyone who donates will get a shout-out on a future episode , so listen out for your name!

Stay connected

Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy

If you haven’t already, please subscribe and leave a review. It really helps more people find the podcast.

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes. Until next time.

Just the Three of Us: Secondary Infertility and Letting Go with Seetal Savla22 Apr 202600:41:09

What does it feel like to reach the end of your fertility journey , not with the family you imagined, but with the one you have? In this episode, host Natalie Silverman sits down with patient advocate, writer, and blogger Seetal Savla for an honest, moving conversation about secondary infertility, the decision to stop treatment, and the complicated emotions that don't simply disappear after a hard-won pregnancy.

Seetal spent six years trying to conceive, went through five rounds of unsuccessful IVF (including one with a donor), experienced multiple losses, and eventually conceived her daughter naturally. Now living in Berlin, she and her husband have made the deeply personal decision not to pursue further treatment , and she speaks candidly about what that letting go actually looks and feels like.

This is also a conversation for those of you who are still on the journey. Because the feelings Seetal describes , the sting of pregnancy announcements, the guilt, the grief for the family you thought you'd have , are feelings many of you will recognise wherever you are right now.

Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of pregnancy loss, pregnancy after loss, and the emotional impact of making the decision to stop fertility treatment.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • Secondary infertility and what it means when there's no clear diagnosis
  • The decision to stop treatment , and the grief and relief that can come with it
  • How to navigate the sting of pregnancy announcements, even as a parent
  • Allowing yourself to feel the 'negative' emotions: sadness, jealousy, resentment
  • Seetal's two-part answer to the question: 'Do you want another baby?'
  • Donating remaining embryos , and the complicated emotions around that
  • The language we use: why 'only child' and 'one and done' don't always fit
  • How to handle intrusive questions, especially within South Asian communities
  • Forewarnng friends and family about pregnancy announcements , what actually helps
  • When fertility friendships shift or break down
  • Seetal's in-person support group for South Asian women in Berlin
  • The power of lived experience communities , and why you don't have to speak to belong
  • Seetal's 13-part Ferring video diary series documenting her final cycle through to motherhood

About Seetal Savla

Seetal is a patient advocate, writer, and blogger who supports the South Asian fertility community both in the UK and internationally. She has written for The Times, contributed to Kat Brown's anthology No One Talks About This Stuff, and partnered with Ferring Pharmaceuticals on a 13-part fertility video diary series. She also hosts support groups for South Asian women navigating fertility challenges, most recently in Berlin.

Follow Seetal on Instagram: @seetalsavla

Links from Seetal
  • Online Fertility Diaries series , filmed with Ferring, documenting Seetal's final cycle, loss, pregnancy after loss, motherhood and her husband's perspective. Episode one of 13 is on her Instagram, with all episodes available there.
  • No One Talks About This Stuff , Seetal wrote one of 22 essays in Kat Brown's anthology, on the experience of being on the verge of the 'happy ending'.
  • Instagram post: 'Do you want another baby?' , Seetal's two-part answer to one of the most loaded questions she gets asked.
  • The Times Weekend article , Seetal's piece about donating their remaining embryos (paywalled).

Books mentioned in this episode
  • Friendaholics by Elizabeth Day , on the complexity and expectations of female friendship
  • Inconceivable by Elizabeth Day , on donor conception, family secrets, and her own IVF journey

Why this conversation matters

So much of the fertility conversation is focused on the next step, the next cycle, the path forward. But what happens when there is no next step? When the path ends somewhere different from where you thought it would?

This episode is for anyone who has made , or is close to making , the decision to stop treatment. It's for anyone navigating secondary infertility, sitting with grief alongside gratitude, or trying to find the words for feelings that don't have easy names. And it's for those of you still on the journey, because understanding that these emotions persist , and that they're valid , matters too.

Support and resources

The Fertility Podcast is the official podcast for Fertility Action, a charity providing education, support and campaigning for fairer access to fertility treatment.

Fertility Action also runs free drop-in support sessions twice a week , no sign-up needed, just a space to be heard.

This episode is sponsored by Wild Nutrition

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Support the podcast

Natalie is taking on the Three Peaks Challenge , Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and Snowdon in 24 hours , to raise funds for Fertility Action. If this podcast has helped you in any way, even a small contribution would mean the world.

Here's how you can donate:

Everyone who donates will get a shout-out on a future episode , so listen out for your name!

Stay connected

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If you haven't already, please subscribe and leave a review , it really helps more people find the podcast.

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes. Until next time 💛

What Happens When AI Enters the Fertility Clinic with Dr Cristina Hickman15 Apr 202600:33:57

Welcome to a brand new series of The Fertility Podcast where we’re asking - what if artificial intelligence could change the way fertility treatment is delivered… before you even begin a cycle?

In this episode, I’m joined by embryologist and clinic founder Dr Cristina Hickman to explore what actually happens when AI enters the fertility clinic. This is not about robots replacing doctors. It is about using data, technology and human expertise together to improve how decisions are made, how patients are supported and ultimately how we get to a baby.

Cristina has built 13 IVF clinics and consulted with more than 250 clinics worldwide. Her latest project brings together years of clinical experience and AI innovation to create a completely new model of fertility care.

What we discuss in this episode:

  • What an AI powered fertility clinic actually looks like in practice
  • How embryos generate billions of data points and what that means for your treatment
  • Why traditional embryo grading can vary between embryologists
  • How AI can predict embryo development as early as day two
  • The role of AI in egg retrieval, sperm selection and treatment planning
  • How personalised fertility care is evolving
  • Why human expertise still matters just as much as technology
  • The emotional side of fertility treatment and how clinic environments can impact outcomes
  • The reality of success rates and what to look for when choosing a clinic

A different way of looking at fertility care

One of the most fascinating parts of this conversation is how AI allows clinics to move from reactive treatment to predictive care.

Instead of waiting five days to see if embryos develop, clinics can now:

  • Predict outcomes earlier
  • Manage expectations sooner
  • Personalise next steps based on your data

Cristina explains how this changes the conversations patients have during treatment, helping them feel more informed and supported rather than left in the unknown.

AI and the human touch

A big takeaway from this episode is that AI is not the decision maker. It is a tool.

Cristina shares why compassionate care, clinical experience and personalised understanding still sit at the centre of fertility treatment. AI simply helps clinicians make better, more informed decisions using data that would otherwise be impossible to process.

Why this conversation matters

With increasing pressure on NHS funding and more people needing to explore private treatment options, understanding what is available and how clinics differ is more important than ever.

This episode is about giving you insight so you can make informed choices about your fertility journey.

Whether you are:

  • Just starting to explore treatment
  • Navigating failed cycles
  • Considering switching clinics
  • Or simply curious about what the future of IVF looks like

This conversation will give you a lot to think about.

Huge thanks to our series sponsors Wild Nutrition - If you’re trying to conceive, you’ll know how confusing it can be to figure out what supplements actually make sense for your body., That’s why I really like what Wild Nutrition offers. They don’t just give you products, they offer free one-to-one consultations with nutritional therapists, so you can get guidance that’s tailored to you and your situation. Visit wildnutrition.com/fertilitypodcast to get 50% off for 3 months AND a free personal consultation

Follow and support:

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The Fertility Podcast is the official podcast for Fertility Action, a charity providing education, support and campaigning for fairer access to fertility treatment.

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Finally - if you haven’t already, please do subscribe and leave a review. It really helps more people find the podcast.

Thank you, as always, for your ear holes.

Until next time 💛

Three Peaks. Three Mountains. One Mission.04 Mar 202600:05:07

Hello, it’s Natalie.

This is just a short message from me to let you know that The Fertility Podcast is taking a little hiatus for the next couple of weeks while I get a few things organised behind the scenes.

We will be back very soon with more episodes. In the meantime, if you have only just discovered the podcast, there is plenty for you to explore in the recent episodes.

Since the start of 2026 we have covered a wide range of topics including:

  1. Sperm donation
  2. Navigating IVF as a neurodivergent person
  3. Fertility career coaching
  4. What you wish your colleagues understood about fertility treatment at work
  5. Sex and the impact that trying to conceive can have on intimacy
  6. Secondary infertility
  7. Family building in the LGBTQ+ community
  8. Male fertility testing

So if you are new here, do scroll back through the feed and have a listen.

And if you have found the podcast helpful, please do subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It really does help more people find these conversations.

Why I’m taking a short break

As you may know, The Fertility Podcast is the official podcast for Fertility Action, the UK charity working to support people navigating fertility challenges and campaigning for fairer access to funded treatment.

They are doing incredible work.

And this summer, they are organising a huge fundraising challenge.

The National Three Peaks Challenge.

That means climbing:

  1. Ben Nevis
  2. Scafell Pike
  3. Snowdon

All within 24 hours.

That is around 23 miles of walking and a total vertical ascent of more than 3,000 metres.

And yes… I have signed up.

At the end of June I will be attempting to climb all three mountains as part of the Fertility Action team.

How you can support

If this podcast has helped you in any way, I would absolutely love your support.

You can donate to my fundraising page here:

Every donation helps Fertility Action continue supporting the 3.5 million people in the UK navigating fertility struggles.

I will also be sharing updates on my training along the way. I have already started with a six mile walk and quickly realised just how long walking actually takes. There will definitely be blisters involved.

Join the challenge

There are still places available if you would like to take part in the Three Peaks Challenge yourself.

It takes place on 26 June and the team will be climbing all three mountains in support of Fertility Action.

If climbing mountains is not your thing, you can still help by:

  1. Sharing the challenge on social media
  2. Supporting the fundraisers
  3. Following Fertility Action online

What’s coming next on the podcast

While I take this short pause to get everything organised, I am lining up some brilliant upcoming episodes.

We will be talking about:

  1. AI in fertility care
  2. Vaginal microbiomes
  3. The experience of teachers navigating IVF
  4. And plenty more conversations to help you feel more informed and supported on your fertility journey

If there is a topic you would like me to cover, please do get in touch.

Stay connected

Follow Fertility Action:

https://fertilityaction.org

Follow me on Instagram:

@fertilitypoddy


Thank you as always for your ear holes.

Make sure you are subscribed so the next episode lands straight in your feed.

And I will be back with you very soon.

Until next time.

Testhim.. it's that simple! Understanding sperm tests with Ian Stones25 Feb 202600:41:05

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Ian Stones, co founder of Testhim, to talk about something that should be simple but still too often isn’t. Testing men.

We talk a lot in fertility about women’s bodies, women’s hormones, women’s investigations. But male fertility accounts for around a third of infertility cases, and yet men are still frequently an afterthought.

Ian and I explore when men should be tested, what those tests actually look like, why semen analysis is not always enough, and how men can advocate for themselves earlier in the process.

If you are dealing with male factor infertility, recurrent loss, unexplained infertility, or you simply want to understand more about sperm health, this episode is for you.

And if you are the partner trying to get a reluctant man to engage with this conversation, please share it.

What we discuss in this episode:

  1. Why male fertility testing is often delayed
  2. When to start investigating male fertility
  3. Why semen analysis is only the starting point
  4. The role of sperm DNA fragmentation in recurrent miscarriage
  5. What a varicocele is and how it affects sperm quality
  6. Why testicular scans matter
  7. How infections and oxidative stress impact sperm health
  8. The importance of seeing a male fertility specialist, not just a general urologist
  9. Why lifestyle changes should happen at least three months before trying to conceive
  10. The impact of heat, cycling, tight underwear and hot tubs
  11. Alcohol, diet and BMI in sperm health
  12. Why men need to know their anatomy and check for lumps and changes
  13. The emotional experience of male infertility and feeling like the spare part
  14. How proactive testing could reduce repeated failed IVF cycles

What Testhim actually does

Testhim offers:

  1. Advanced male fertility testing
  2. A detailed male fertility questionnaire to build a personalised risk profile
  3. Sperm DNA fragmentation testing
  4. Oxidative stress testing
  5. Testicular ultrasound scans
  6. Follow up calls to explain results clearly
  7. Access to male fertility urology specialists across the UK
  8. Monthly male fertility support groups
  9. A dedicated male fertility podcast

Their questionnaire covers:

  1. Fertility history
  2. General health
  3. Lifestyle and diet
  4. Work environment
  5. Red flag history such as undescended testicles or confirmed varicocele
  6. Exercise habits
  7. Clothing choices
  8. Miscarriage history

The system builds a risk profile and gives clear next step guidance.

Because knowledge is power.

Listen to the Testhim podcast

Ian co hosts the Testhim podcast with male fertility advocate Toby Trice. It is one of the only UK podcasts dedicated specifically to male fertility.

Here are some standout episodes to explore:

Fertility Talk with Jonathan Ramsay

Environmental toxins and fertility with Professor Richard Lea

Understanding varicocele with Steven Moser

The couple approach with Jas Kalsi and Fatima Husain

Dealing with friends and family

You can also explore all episodes at

https://www.testhim.com

A note on being proactive

One of the strongest messages from this episode is this:

Do not wait until after multiple failed IVF cycles to investigate male fertility properly.

If you can:

  1. Test early
  2. Optimise early
  3. See the right specialist early

You want to know that you have left no stone unturned.

Support from our sponsors

Access Fertility

If you are worried about the financial aspect of IVF treatment, Access Fertility partners with over 60 UK clinics to offer interest free finance, multi cycle packages and refund programmes.

Find out more at:

https://www.accessfertility.com/thefp

One Day Tests

Book a confidential online fertility consultation and discuss blood testing with a specialist.

Use code FERT10 for 10 percent off your blood test.

https://www.onedaytests.com

Let’s keep the conversation going

Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy

Learn more about Fertility Action:

https://fertilityaction.org

Find out more about workplace fertility support:

https://fertilitymattersatwork.com

Explore Testhim and their services:

https://www.testhim.com

If this episode has helped you, please share it with someone who needs it.

Male fertility is not an afterthought.

It is half the story.

Until next time.



Family building for the LGBTQ+ community - a starting point of what you need to know with Carole Gilling-Smith18 Feb 202600:32:13

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Dr Carole Gilling-Smith, Medical Director of The Agora Clinic and Trustee of Fertility Action, to talk about family building within the LGBTQ+ community.

If you are part of the LGBTQ+ community and thinking about becoming a parent, or you love someone who is, this episode is a practical starting point. We talk about treatment pathways, donor conception, fertility preservation, NHS inequality, and how to make sure you are supported properly by a clinic that understands your needs.

This is about education, empowerment and knowing your options.

What we cover in this episode

  1. Why fertility equality on the NHS is still not where it should be
  2. The postcode lottery affecting IVF funding
  3. Why three full IVF cycles should be the national standard
  4. The additional financial barriers faced by same sex couples
  5. Why six self funded IUIs before NHS eligibility is deeply problematic
  6. The risks of sourcing donor sperm online
  7. Choosing between known donors and donor banks
  8. How clinics should approach inclusive paperwork and language
  9. Why pronouns and preferred names matter in clinical settings
  10. Shared motherhood and reciprocal IVF
  11. Fertility testing for both partners before deciding who carries
  12. Supporting gay male couples through complex pathways involving egg donation and surrogacy
  13. Working with the trans community around fertility preservation
  14. Preserving sperm or eggs before starting hormone treatment
  15. The emotional impact of genetic connection and non biological parenting
  16. Why counselling is essential before treatment begins
  17. Supporting patients who fear internal examinations or surgical environments
  18. Creating clinic spaces that feel safe, calm and inclusive

About Dr Carole Gilling-Smith

Dr Carole Gilling-Smith is the Medical Director of The Agora Clinic, one of the UK’s leading fertility clinics for the LGBTQ+ community, based in Brighton and Hove.

She is also a founding Trustee of Fertility Action, the UK charity campaigning for fertility equality and better access to treatment.

Carole has been a long standing advocate for:

  1. Equal NHS funding for fertility treatment
  2. Inclusive fertility care for LGBTQ+ patients
  3. Fertility education in schools and universities
  4. Fertility preservation for the trans community

You can find out more here:

  1. The Agora Clinic
  2. Fertility Action

A note on donor sperm and online routes

We discuss the growing number of people sourcing donor sperm online due to cost barriers.

Carole explains why this carries significant risks, including:

  1. Lack of medical screening
  2. No infectious disease screening
  3. No genetic testing
  4. Legal parenthood complications
  5. Potential financial liability issues

If you are considering donor conception, please ensure you fully understand the medical and legal implications.

Fertility preservation for the trans community

Since 2019, NHS guidance states that individuals starting hormone treatment should be offered the opportunity to preserve sperm or eggs beforehand.

Carole explains:

  1. Why this conversation needs to happen early
  2. How egg or sperm freezing works
  3. Why preservation can be empowering
  4. The importance of specialist, experienced clinics
  5. The emotional impact of being offered choice

If you or someone you know is starting transition and has not been offered fertility preservation, please ask.

Support from our sponsors

Access Fertility

If you are worried about the cost of IVF, Access Fertility partners with over 60 UK clinics to offer interest free finance, multi cycle packages and refund programmes.

Find out more at:

https://www.accessfertility.com/thefp

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Book a confidential online consultation with a fertility specialist and discuss hormone testing and next steps.

Use code FERT10 for 10 percent off your blood test.

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Let’s keep the conversation going

  1. Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Learn more about workplace fertility support at:
  3. https://fertilitymattersatwork.com
  4. Explore Fertility Action’s campaigns and support groups:
  5. https://fertilityaction.org
  6. Subscribe to the podcast so new episodes land straight in your feed

If this episode has helped you, please share it with someone who might need it. Education and visibility matter.

Thank you for listening.



Getting your head around secondary infertility with Catherine Cousins11 Feb 202600:55:20

In this deeply emotional episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Catherine Cousins, author of Just One Child, to talk honestly about secondary infertility, failed IVF cycles, mental health, grief, and what it means to come to terms with building a family with one child when that was not the plan.

This conversation was not an easy one to prepare for or to record. Catherine shares her story with such openness, including her experience of a cancer diagnosis within her family, IVF after having a child naturally, a mental health breakdown following a failed cycle, and the long road towards acceptance.

If you are currently in treatment, living with secondary infertility, or facing decisions about stopping treatment, this episode may resonate deeply. We talk about grief that is often unseen, the isolation that comes with this experience, and why it is so rarely spoken about.

If this is not the right time for you to listen, please come back when you feel ready.

What we discuss in this episode:

  1. What secondary infertility can look like when you already have a child
  2. How a cancer diagnosis changed Catherine’s fertility journey overnight
  3. IVF after having a child naturally and the emotional complexity that brings
  4. The mental health impact of failed cycles and untreated grief
  5. Why many people do not feel able to talk about secondary infertility
  6. Shame, isolation, and feeling undeserving of support because you have a child
  7. How grief can exist for the family you imagined but could not have
  8. The strain fertility treatment can place on relationships
  9. Deciding when to stop treatment and how hard that decision can be
  10. Marking the end of treatment and finding closure in your own way
  11. Parenting while grieving and the guilt that can come with it
  12. Navigating comments, questions, and assumptions from others
  13. Reframing the narrative around being a family with one child
  14. Finding acceptance without pretending it does not still hurt

About Catherine and her book

Catherine Cousins is the author of Just One Child, a powerful and compassionate book about secondary infertility, loss, and redefining family when further treatment is not possible or no longer feels right.

Her book explores the emotional, social, and psychological impact of coming to terms with having one child when you hoped for more, and gives voice to an experience that is often overlooked.

You can find Catherine and her work here:

  1. Just One Child on Amazon
  2. Catherine on Facebook

A gentle note

This episode includes discussion of failed IVF cycles, mental health breakdowns, grief, and decisions to stop treatment. Please take care of yourself while listening.

There is no right or wrong way to feel when it comes to secondary infertility. Your experience is valid.

Support from our sponsors

Access Fertility

If the financial side of IVF feels overwhelming, Access Fertility offers interest free loans, multi cycle treatment packages, and refund programmes that can help make treatment more manageable. They work with over 60 clinics across the UK to help you access care when you need it.

Find out more at: https://www.accessfertility.com/thefp

One Day Tests

If you are trying to conceive or fertility curious, One Day Tests offers online fertility consultations and blood testing with fertility specialists. You can discuss results, get clarity on next steps, and receive written notes after your appointment.

Use code FERT10 for 10 percent off your blood test.

Book at: https://www.onedaytests.com

Let’s keep the conversation going

  1. Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  3. Learn more about support and advocacy at Fertility Action
  4. Subscribe on your podcast app so you never miss an episode
  5. Share this episode with someone who may feel seen by this conversation

Thank you for listening and for trusting this space with such tender parts of your story. Secondary infertility can feel incredibly lonely, but you are not alone.

Until next time.

Let’s talk about sex with Kate Moyle04 Feb 202600:50:23

Sex and intimacy can change dramatically when you are trying to conceive, especially when fertility treatment, loss or ongoing uncertainty is part of your life. In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Kate Moyle, psychosexual therapist, podcaster and author of The Science of Sex, to talk about how sex, desire, relationships and connection can evolve in ways we never expected when fertility becomes part of our story.

This episode touches on loss, grief and confusion. If you are not ready for that right now, please skip and come back when you are ready.

Kate brings both professional insight and compassionate understanding to one of the most normal yet least discussed parts of many people’s experience. We talk about timing, pressure, anxiety, loss, connection, expectation and how to rebuild joy and pleasure in your relationship.

Whether you are in a long term partnership, thinking about future intimacy, or trying to untangle the impact that fertility has had on your sex life, this conversation is full of practical insight and reassurance that you are not alone.

What we discuss in this episode:

  1. Why sex often feels different when fertility issues are part of your life
  2. How timing and pressure can change desire and connection
  3. Why we often feel there is something wrong with us when intimacy changes
  4. The impact of miscarriage, loss and medical trauma on sex and relationships
  5. How shame and silence make it harder to ask for help
  6. Reclaiming touch and connection beyond the fertility goal
  7. How fertility challenges affect male partners and masculinity
  8. How to bring pleasure and ease back into sex after it has become stressful
  9. Why rebuilding intimacy is a process and not a quick fix

Kate Moyle is a UK based psychosexual therapist, author and public speaker whose work helps people understand sex and intimacy through a biological, psychological and social perspective. She is the author of The Science of Sex, a neutral, accessible guide to sex and sexuality designed for all bodies.

You can find Kate’s work here:

  1. The Science of Sex (book) – available from major retailers and online booksellers
  2. The Science of Sex podcast – listen wherever you get podcasts
  3. Website

Kate’s approach is grounded in research, lived experience and curiosity. This episode is one of the most honest and compassionate conversations we have had about sex and fertility on the podcast.

Thank you to our sponors:

This episode is supported by partners who help people access care and clarity on their fertility journey.

👉Access Fertility

If you are worried about the cost of treatment, Access Fertility offers interest free loans, multi cycle packages and refund programmes to help make IVF more affordable for you. They partner with over 60 UK clinics to help you access treatment without added financial stress.

👉One Day Tests

If you want clarity on your hormones, ovulation or fertility indicators, One Day Tests offer online appointments with fertility specialists plus convenient fertility blood testing. You can discuss results with a specialist, get direction on next steps and track key hormones that matter in your journey.

Use code FERT10 at checkout for 10 percent off your blood test.

Let’s keep the conversation going

  1. Follow The Fertility Podcast on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Email your thoughts or ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  3. Learn more about support and community at Fertility Action
  4. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. It helps others find support too
  5. Leave a review or share this episode with someone who needs to hear it

Thank you for listening and for being part of this community. Intimacy, connection and fertility can be hard, but you do not have to navigate it alone.

Until next time.

What I wish my colleagues understood about IVF with Sarah Banks28 Jan 202600:33:00

Trying to conceive can be incredibly isolating, especially when your friends and family just do not get it. That is why I loved this conversation with Sarah Banks, fertility coach, speaker, author, and creator of the Positivity Planner.

Sarah’s work is all about helping you feel more emotionally supported through treatment. She also has years of experience working with clinics on patient support strategies, so she sees both sides: what patients need, and what is still missing in the system.

We talked about why fertility coaching can be such a powerful complement to medical treatment, how to navigate the emotional rollercoaster of TTC, and how to protect your mental wellbeing, even when things do not go as planned.

What we discuss in this episode:

  1. The power of coaching and how it can support people emotionally through treatment
  2. How Sarah’s own journey inspired her work in fertility and patient experience
  3. What fertility clinics are doing (and not doing) to better support patients
  4. Coping with anxiety, stress, and overwhelm while TTC
  5. Strategies for building resilience and staying hopeful
  6. Tips for advocating for yourself in appointments and with providers
  7. The Positivity Planner and how journaling can support your mental wellbeing
  8. The importance of community, connection, and being heard
  9. What Sarah wishes everyone struggling with infertility knew

If you are feeling like you have no one to talk to, or like you are supposed to just keep going while your heart is breaking, this one is for you.

This episode is sponsored by Access Fertility

Worried about the financial pressure of treatment? Access Fertility offers funding programmes and 0% interest finance to help ease the burden of self-funding IVF.

Their services include:

  1. Loans of up to £12,000 with no interest over 12 months
  2. Multi-cycle packages that can save you up to 30%
  3. Refund programmes offering up to 100% back if treatment is unsuccessful
  4. Partnerships with over 60 top clinics in the UK
  5. Personalised advice based on your age and treatment plan

Visit accessfertility.com/thefp to learn more.

Learn more about Sarah’s work:

  1. Positivity Planners
  2. sarahbanks.coach

Let’s keep the conversation going:

  1. Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  3. Learn more about Fertility Coaching and Support from Sarah at sarahbanks.coach
  4. Subscribe on your podcast app to stay updated
  5. Leave a review or share this episode with someone who needs it

Until next time.


How fertility career coaching works with Jen Elworthy21 Jan 202600:20:06

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Jen Elworthy, fertility career coach and Director of Engagement at Fertility Matters at Work, to explore how career coaching can support you while going through fertility treatment.

Jen joined our team in July 2025, and since then I’ve had the joy of learning from her insight, empathy and real-world experience. She has lived through the impact of ectopic pregnancy and miscarriage while working in high-pressure environments, and she shares how these experiences shaped her approach to coaching.

If you’ve ever felt stuck in your job because of your treatment, uncertain how to talk to work, or unable to see a career path that aligns with what you’re going through, this episode is for you.

What we discuss in this episode:

  1. Jen’s personal fertility journey, including multiple losses and the emotional toll on her mental health and career
  2. How she moved from ambitious and confident to experiencing panic attacks at work
  3. The challenges of opening up to colleagues and managers during early treatment
  4. The power of having just one supportive person at work who gets it
  5. Her IVF survival kit and practical tips for managing during a workday
  6. Why “career coaching” isn’t just for high-flyers or executives
  7. Examples of how she’s helped clients through job changes, promotions, sabbaticals, and re-aligning their work-life balance
  8. Her approach to resilience coaching and “bounce back ability” during treatment
  9. Why therapy helped her heal, but coaching helped her move forward
  10. Misconceptions about who coaching is for, and why it can be more accessible than you think
  11. How Jen structured her coaching offers to meet people at different financial entry points

Jen’s support offerings include:

  1. Jen is now offering Group Coaching
  2. One-to-one coaching (short-term or long-term packages)
  3. One-off coaching conversations
  4. Employer-sponsored coaching (some clients have had it covered as part of redundancy packages)
  5. Low-cost workshops (around £20–£25)
  6. Free resources and templates on her website
  7. Free newsletter + insights via LinkedIn and Instagram

If you're considering career coaching but aren't sure it's “for you”, this is your reminder that it’s absolutely okay to ask for help, and there are options at every level.

This episode is sponsored by Access Fertility

Worried about the financial pressure of treatment? Access Fertility offers funding programmes and 0% interest finance to help ease the burden of self-funding IVF.

Their services include:

  1. Loans of up to £12,000 with no interest over 12 months
  2. Multi-cycle packages that can save you up to 30%
  3. Refund programmes offering up to 100% back if treatment is unsuccessful
  4. Partnerships with over 60 top clinics in the UK
  5. Personalised advice based on your age and treatment plan

Visit accessfertility.com/thefp to learn more.


Let’s keep the conversation going:

  1. Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Explore career coaching and free resources at: jenniferelworthy.com
  3. Learn more about workplace support at: fertilitymattersatwork.com
  4. Want coaching in your workplace? Reach out to us or speak to your HR team

Whether you’re holding it all together or feel like you're about to break, know this — there are people who get it, and support that fits where you are. Thank you for your ears, and until next time.

Navigating IVF as a Neurodivergent Person with Catherine Lightfoot14 Jan 202600:29:03

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Catherine Lightfoot, ADHD coach and founder of Rewired Circles, to talk about her experience of navigating IVF as a neurodivergent person.

Catherine was working in a senior HR role while undergoing fertility treatment and dealing with the mental load of a delayed ADHD diagnosis. She joins me to talk about the emotional toll of masking, the challenges of advocating for yourself in a system that does not always recognise neurodivergence, and the importance of creating support spaces that actually meet people where they are.

This is our first episode covering neurodivergence and fertility, and I want to thank Catherine for bringing this conversation forward. If you suspect you may be neurodivergent, or if you’ve been struggling to articulate how this process is affecting you, I hope this episode offers support and language for what you might be feeling.

What we discuss in this episode:
  1. Catherine’s delayed ADHD diagnosis and how it overlapped with her fertility journey
  2. Why she and her partner opted for early fertility testing and how a surprise male factor diagnosis shifted everything
  3. The emotional whiplash of having a clear process derailed by COVID delays
  4. How hyperfocus, masking, and people-pleasing made it harder to ask for help
  5. Overworking and pretending everything was fine while secretly undergoing injections and treatment
  6. The moment she realised she could not cope alone anymore
  7. What IVF felt like as a neurodivergent person and why it is easy to become overwhelmed and disconnected
  8. The challenge of advocating for yourself when you are not sure what your needs are
  9. The risks of masking and burnout in high-pressure jobs while going through treatment
  10. Her reflections on memory loss, dysregulation, and why she misremembered the number of cycles she had
  11. Why support groups are powerful but may not be the right fit for everyone at every stage
  12. How Catherine’s coaching and lived experience helped her move from burnout to self-awareness
  13. The shocking mental health statistics for women with ADHD and why fertility support needs to evolve
  14. Why the fertility and neurodivergent overlap is an urgent area of focus for workplaces and support providers
  15. Her top advice for anyone navigating fertility and ADHD, especially in silence

A note on support and asking for help

So many of us keep it all in. We wait until it gets really bad before we share anything. But Catherine reminds us that asking for help does not need to be dramatic or all-encompassing. You can start small. Tell one trusted colleague at work. Let one friend know. Give someone permission to be your backup or just your quiet support.

If you are masking and managing everything alone, this is your nudge to breathe, pause, and share.

Let’s keep the conversation going:
  1. Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  3. Learn more about Catherine’s support and coaching at rewiredcircles.co.uk
  4. Explore weekly support groups and mental health resources at fertilityaction.org
  5. If you are navigating fertility while neurodivergent, reach out to Catherine or Fertility Action to explore the right support for you

If this conversation gave you language for something you have been struggling to express, or made you feel a little less alone, please subscribe, leave a review, or share the episode with someone who needs it.

Until next time.


Understanding sperm donation with Hayley King07 Jan 202600:26:48

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Hayley King, donor-conceived adult, mum of donor-conceived twins, and Operations Manager at Path to Parenthub. We’re talking about the story that made headlines last December, a sperm donor with a genetic mutation linked to cancer being used in nearly 200 conceptions across 14 countries.

This episode unpacks how this could happen, the gaps in donor regulation that allow it, and what this means for families. We also talk about the emotional, ethical, and logistical challenges of donor conception in a globalised industry, where the same donor can be used across borders with no international limits in place.

Hayley brings both personal and professional insight into how families can make informed choices, why early disclosure matters, and what changes are urgently needed to protect the next generation.

If you’re on a donor conception path or supporting someone who is, this conversation is essential listening.

What we discuss in this episode:
  1. Hayley’s experience growing up as a donor-conceived person, and what shifted when she became a parent herself
  2. Why early disclosure matters and how secrecy shaped the mental health of donor-conceived people in the past
  3. The UK’s 10-family donor limit and why it does not apply outside the UK
  4. How one donor can be used in multiple countries with no tracking or shared system
  5. The story of one donor linked to a BRCA1 cancer gene being used in nearly 200 conceptions
  6. What “family limits” really mean and why they are difficult to enforce globally
  7. The emotional weight of discovering you have 50 or even 100 donor siblings
  8. How sperm banks and clinics are often driven by profit rather than transparency
  9. What questions prospective parents can ask their clinic or sperm bank
  10. Why Path to Parent Hub was created as a safe space for donor conception families
  11. Hayley’s advice for parents, donors, and donor-conceived adults navigating identity and connection

A note on regulation and emotional safety:

While advances in genetic screening are helpful, they are not foolproof. The issue is not just medical, it is ethical. Donors should not be used to create hundreds of families across continents.

Without international family limits or shared tracking systems, donor-conceived people may unknowingly share genetics with a vast number of people worldwide. This impacts their sense of self, their safety in relationships, and their ability to connect the dots in their identity.

As Hayley says, transparency matters. Families deserve accurate information and regulated systems that put people over profit.

Let’s keep the conversation going:
  1. Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Follow Hayley on instagram: @dcp_journey_2_rp
  3. Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  4. Learn more about support groups and donor conception resources at fertilityaction.org
  5. Join Path to Parenthub for weekly support groups, lived-experience blogs, and access to the Path to Parent Hub podcast
  6. Listen to Hayley and Becky’s episodes on creating emotionally safe families through donor conception
  7. Read more about the donor regulation campaign via Fertility Action and Fertility Network UK

If this episode helped you feel seen or helped you ask new questions, please subscribe, leave a review, or share it with someone on a similar path.

Until next time.

Happy New Year - back 7th Jan03 Jan 202600:00:34

Happy New Year - hope you're enjoying the bright sunshine we have in Manchester as we wait to see if it snows!

You've survived the festive season and hopefully you're starting the new year in a peaceful place, despite the possibilityof there being a lot to consider in your year ahead. I hope the podcast continues to stay in your earholes and supports you along the way.

If you're yet to subscribe, please do so, wherever you have found this episode as it makes a real difference. Plus, feel free to leave a review each time you listen as I love hearing your thoughts.

Natalie x

Where to find the right family building support17 Dec 202500:42:56

As we wrap up 2025, this final episode of The Fertility Podcast is a heartfelt reflection on the year we’ve had and a look ahead to what’s coming. I’m joined by Katie Rollings, founder of Fertility Action, for a candid chat about the emotional toll of trying to conceive at this time of year, what has changed in the support landscape, and why we need more trust, better information, and continued compassion in the fertility space.

If this time of year feels like a gut punch, you are not alone. Whether you are grieving a loss, recovering from a failed cycle, or quietly carrying the weight of infertility, I hope this episode reminds you that your experience matters and that support is out there.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • Why it is okay to feel conflicted or overwhelmed during the festive season
  • Creating your own boundaries, traditions, and safe spaces during the holidays
  • What Fertility Action’s support groups are hearing most including pregnancy announcements, TTC burnout, relationship issues and intimacy questions
  • How the groups are structured (TTC versus positive test and beyond) and why that matters
  • The rise in patients feeling confused by medical advice, conflicting information online and social media rabbit holes
  • Fertility as both emotional and transactional and how clinics need to do better at meeting patients with empathy and psychological safety
  • The importance of honest, regulated medical guidance and why peer support should not replace professional advice
  • Progress on fertility education and policy change and why 2026 is shaping up to be a big year for advocacy
  • Katie’s hopes for empowering patients and reaching earlier stages in the fertility journey through GP education and access

A note on the mental load this season:

If you have found yourself thinking “I really thought this would be our year”, you are not alone. That sense of grief, reflection, and uncertainty can be especially heavy during the holidays. But you are allowed to set limits. To say no. To opt out of conversations or events. You are not selfish for protecting your peace.

Whether it is preparing a few phrases for difficult family questions, giving yourself permission to decline invites, or joining a support group for the first time, do whatever helps you feel grounded.

And if you need a glimmer of hope, plan something just for you. Something small, comforting, or creative such as making a Christmas bauble while you chat with others who get it.

Let’s keep the conversation going:
  • Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  • Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  • Learn more about support groups and resources at fertilityaction.org
  • Subscribe on your podcast app to stay updated for 2026
  • Leave a review or share this with someone who might need it

Thank you again for listening this year. However you are ending 2025, I wish you peace, space to breathe, and a gentle start to whatever comes next.

Until next time.


Coping at Christmas - words of wisdom from the TTC community10 Dec 202500:21:46

Tips from the TTC community

In this penultimate episode of 2025, I wanted to share something a little different. This time of year can be incredibly difficult if you’re trying to conceive, dealing with loss, or navigating life after fertility treatment. So I gathered a brilliant group of patient advocates and professionals to offer their heartfelt, practical advice for getting through the holidays.

From awkward questions at the dinner table to setting boundaries and finding your tribe, this episode is full of small but powerful ideas to help you protect your wellbeing and find support, whatever your journey looks like.

What we discuss in this episode:
  • Why you don’t need to shrink yourself to make others comfortable
  • How to prepare phrases and "outs" for difficult conversations
  • The power of setting boundaries and being selfish in the kindest way
  • Finding your community and not navigating it alone
  • What to say to that nosy aunt (or how to head it off entirely)
  • Navigating solo parenthood, donor conception and surrogacy during the holidays
  • Coping with involuntary childlessness and sitting in grief without guilt
  • Why men need support too, and how to show up for each other
  • Embracing joy in small ways, even during a painful season

You’ll hear from:


Let’s keep the conversation going:
  • Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  • Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  • Follow our advocacy work: @fertility.action
  • Explore and connect with this episode’s guests via the links in the show notes
  • Subscribe to the podcast to stay updated as we plan for 2026

Please know that whatever you’re feeling right now, you’re not alone. Your emotions are valid, and you deserve support. Take what you need from this episode, and share it with someone who might need it too.

Until next time.

Men's Fertility Matters- What to Ask Your GP – with Dr. Anand Patel19 Nov 202500:23:40

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Dr Anand Patel, a GP and specialist in men’s health, for an honest and incredibly practical conversation about how male fertility is handled in general practice.

Anand shares the exact questions men should be prepared to ask their GP, why basic investigations are often missed, and how a simple examination could reveal more than you think.

If you or your partner are just starting to explore fertility testing, this is a must‑listen.

What we discuss in this episode:

  • What to say (and bring up) during your GP appointment if you’re worried about fertility
  • Why most GPs aren’t trained in fertility and what that means for patients
  • How to advocate for yourself when you’re not sure what to ask
  • The “ICE” model (Ideas, Concerns, Expectations) and how it helps patients get better care
  • The critical role of basic examinations that are often skipped
  • What conditions and warning signs GPs should be looking for
  • Why GP training needs to change and how newer trainees may be more up to date
  • Fertility MOTs, NHS limits, and when private care may make more sense
  • The emotional impact of male factor diagnoses and how to create more compassionate conversations
  • What a decent male fertility assessment should actually include

Special thanks to Examen, sponsor of this episode

Examen offers direct, cutting‑edge sperm DNA fragmentation testing (including both single and double‑strand DNA damage), used by 85% of fertility clinics across the UK and Ireland.

Tests are:

  • Non‑invasive
  • Available via clinics or partner hubs
  • Designed to provide clarity, confidence and actionable insight

You don’t need a referral to get tested. Simply book online, drop off your sample and receive detailed results to discuss with your clinic.

🎧 Learn more at examenlab.com


Let’s keep the conversation going:


Please subscribe and leave a review if this episode was helpful. And if you know someone who needs this kind of GP‑level support, send it their way.

Until next time.



‘Seeing men in the fertility conversation’ with Kevin Mceleny12 Nov 202500:28:27

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, we've gone back to the archive to share a chat I had a little while back with Kevin McEleny, Consultant Urologist at Newcastle Fertility Centre and Nuffield Health. Kevin is a specialist in male fertility and urology and has worked for years to raise awareness around the crucial but often overlooked role of male health in fertility care.

We talk about how much of male fertility is still ignored, under-tested and underfunded, and what that means for couples trying to conceive. As someone who has experienced male factor infertility personally, this episode means a lot to me, and I know it will to many of you too.

Whether you're going through IVF, facing a male factor diagnosis, or simply wanting to understand the full picture, I hope this episode helps you feel more informed and empowered.

What we discuss in this episode:

  • Why it’s still so common for men to be left out of fertility investigations
  • What kinds of tests should be done for men and why basic semen analysis isn’t enough
  • Why timing, hormones and lifestyle can drastically impact sperm quality
  • What conditions might be missed if men aren’t tested properly
  • The emotional toll male fertility issues can take, and why support is essential
  • What male patients should expect when seeing a urologist or fertility specialist
  • Why early and equal testing matters for both partners
  • Kevin also explained Kleinfelter Syndrome and how it can go undetected without the right support and investigation

This episode is a call for more inclusive care, not just for women, but for men too. Because fertility is a shared journey, and everyone deserves to be heard.

Special thanks to Examen, sponsor of this episode

Examen offers direct, cutting-edge sperm DNA fragmentation testing (including both single and double-strand DNA damage), used by 85% of fertility clinics across the UK and Ireland.

Tests are:

  • Non-invasive
  • Available via clinics or partner hubs
  • Designed to provide clarity, confidence and actionable insight

You don’t need a referral to get tested. Simply book online, drop off your sample and receive detailed results to discuss with your clinic.

🎧 Learn more at examenlab.com

Let’s keep the conversation going:

  • Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  • Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  • Follow our advocacy work: @fertility.action
  • Learn more about the men’s health campaign with Fertility Action and Test Him
  • Explore SDF testing with your clinic or directly at examenlab.com

Please subscribe, leave a review and share this episode if it resonated, especially with someone who may need this conversation.

Until next time.

Cracking the Code: Sperm DNA, Miscarriage, and the Future of Fertility Care05 Nov 202500:32:55

In this special episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Lalana Songra, medical advisor at Examen Lab, to talk about the urgent need for better understanding and testing around male fertility, particularly sperm DNA fragmentation (SDF).

As someone whose own fertility journey involved a male factor diagnosis, this is a topic close to my heart. And it’s still one that doesn’t get enough attention.

We explore why male fertility plays such a vital role in conception, pregnancy loss, and future child health, and how overlooked it still is in both diagnosis and support.

What we discuss in this episode:

  • What sperm DNA fragmentation (SDF) actually is and how it’s different from a standard semen analysis
  • The difference between single-strand vs double-strand sperm DNA damage and how they impact fertility
  • How new research links high SDF levels to recurrent pregnancy loss, even when semen analysis appears normal
  • Why it’s problematic that men are only looked at after multiple pregnancy losses
  • The lifestyle and health factors that impact sperm quality, and how quickly men can improve it
  • What the sperm testing process looks like and where to access it
  • The importance of including men in the conversation around fertility and pregnancy loss
  • How better male testing can lead to more accurate, personalised treatment decisions (like ICSI vs IVF)
  • Why early intervention and equal diagnosis for men matters, not just emotionally but medically

If you’ve had unexplained infertility, failed cycles, or losses with no clear answer, this episode could help you explore new questions and possibilities.

Special thanks to Examen sponsor of this episode

Examine offers direct, cutting-edge sperm DNA fragmentation testing (including single and double-strand damage) used by 85% of fertility clinics across the UK and Ireland.

Tests are:

  • Non-invasive
  • Available via clinics or partner hubs
  • Designed to provide clarity, confidence, and actionable insight

You don’t need a referral to get tested – just book online, drop off your sample, and get detailed results you can discuss with your clinic.

🔍 Learn more at Examen

Let’s keep the conversation going:

  • Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  • Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  • Follow our advocacy work: @fertility.action
  • Learn more about the men’s health campaign with Fertility Action and Test Him
  • Find out more about SDF testing via your clinic or directly at Examen Lab

Please subscribe and leave a review if this episode spoke to you – and do share it with someone who may need this conversation.

Until next time.

Tim Royle on the male experience of fertility struggles29 Oct 202500:35:37

Hi, it’s Natalie here. This episode is an emotional and important one. I’m joined by Tim Royal, a television director known for his work on Coronation Street, Emmerdale, and EastEnders, who reached out to me to share the story behind his short film "It’s the Hope That Kills You."

If you’ve been listening for a while, you’ll know that male factor infertility was part of my own fertility story. And this month on the podcast, we’re shining the spotlight on male infertility and men’s experiences, which often go unheard. Tim’s story speaks to that silence and the emotional toll that fertility treatment can have on men.

What we talk about:

  1. How Tim felt marginalised and overlooked throughout the IVF process
  2. The emotional weight of never being called by name or offered therapy
  3. The pressure of “sample day” and why language matters in the clinic
  4. The cumulative trauma of repeated failed transfers and insensitive staff questions
  5. A powerful idea: colour-coded patient folders to avoid retraumatising questions
  6. The stark contrast between treatment at St Mary’s Hospital and CARE Fertility
  7. Tim’s experience of debilitating anxiety and his journey to seek therapy
  8. The importance of recognising and challenging intrusive thoughts
  9. How IVF reshaped his relationships, identity, and day-to-day mental health
  10. Tim’s reflection on IVF as a team effort, and how he supported his wife
  11. The impact of working on scripts about fertility while living through treatment
  12. Choosing to use film as a tool for honesty, empathy, and social change
  13. How hope can both carry and crush us during infertility
  14. The moment everything changed: a final transfer, a fertility stone, and holding on to the “1 percent”

About the film

It’s the Hope That Kills You is a 13-minute short film written and directed by Tim, based on his and his wife’s seven-year fertility journey. It is raw, authentic, and quietly devastating, capturing the micro-aggressions, emotional weight, and relationship strain of infertility.

Tim self-funded the film and created it to spark conversations and help others feel seen. It’s especially powerful for those trying to support loved ones but unsure how.

The film will be available to watch for free on YouTube on 30 November.

It has a Christmas element and was inspired by their 11th and final transfer, which took place on Christmas Eve.

You can follow the film’s Instagram page for updates: @itsthehopethatkillsyoufilm

Support for Men and Mental Health

As Tim shares, his anxiety became life-altering and the lack of support for men in the fertility space made it worse. If you’re navigating something similar, please know there is help available.

Organisations and initiatives that support men:

  1. ExamenLab – Sperm DNA Fragmentation Testing
  2. Fertility for Men
  3. The Male Fertility Coach
  4. testhim - Male Fertility Support
  5. The Male Fertility Podcast
  6. Fertility Matters at Work
  7. Fertility Action – Regular support groups and workplace advocacy

Don’t forget to ask your clinic about advanced sperm DNA testing. Many men are told their semen analysis is “normal,” but tests like those offered by ExamenLab go deeper by detecting hidden DNA fragmentation that can impact conception, miscarriage, and IVF success.

Let’s stay connected

  1. DM me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Follow Fertility Action for advocacy and support updates: @fertility.action
  3. Email me: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  4. Learn more about workplace advocacy: fertilitymattersatwork.com

A final ask

If this episode resonates with you, please share it. Sometimes a film or podcast episode is the only way someone can start to explain what they’re going through.

Follow the podcast on your favourite app to get each new episode. I’m so grateful you’re here.

Until next time.

The Fertility Full Picture: What Blood Tests Can Really Tell You22 Oct 202500:25:17

This week, I’m joined once again by my lovely former co-host and friend, Kate Davies.

You might remember Kate as the science bit of The Fertility Podcast, an independent fertility nurse and all-round champion for women’s health.

These days, she’s got a very fancy title as Vice President of Medical, Women’s Health and Longevity at Ultra Human, and also works as Clinical Lead for One Day Tests, who’ve been a previous sponsor of the pod.

In this episode, we’re diving into what blood tests can really tell you about your fertility and overall health.

Whether you’re just starting to try, have PCOS, or have been on your journey for a while and still don’t have all the answers, this one’s for you.

Kate and I talk about:

  • What your blood tests can (and can’t) reveal about your fertility
  • How often you should get your bloods checked
  • Why it’s so important to monitor cholesterol and glucose if you have PCOS
  • The key tests to ask for if you’ve got unexplained infertility such as thyroid, vitamin D, and prolactin
  • How to use your results to advocate for yourself, especially if you’ve been dismissed before
  • And yes, we even go through my blood test results from One Day Tests
  • Kate also shares what she’s been working on with Ultra Human, including the fascinating world of biometric health tracking.
  • She also introduces something called the Havening technique, a research-backed way to help manage stress and anxiety that’s well worth looking into.


Mentioned in This Episode

  • One Day Tests👉 onedaytests.com - Use code TFP10 for 10% off your blood test.
  • Fertility Action - Our amazing partners raising awareness of male fertility. Find them on Instagram @fertilityactionuk.
  • Fertility Matters at Work - My other hat! Our big event, The F Word at Work Live, is happening on 5th November, and tickets are still available at fertilitymattersatwork.com


Before You Go

Please make sure you’re subscribed wherever you listen.

It really helps others find the podcast and means you won’t miss an episode (especially if I have a little break).

If you found this chat helpful, I’d love it if you left a quick review.

You can also find links to all the resources and everything Kate and I mentioned in the show notes below.

Thank you, as always, for listening and for letting us be part of your fertility journey. 💜

Beyond the Two Lines: Navigating Ectopic Pregnancy08 Oct 202500:41:32

Hello and welcome to this week’s episode of The Fertility Podcast. I’m Natalie, and this is a slightly different one.

Please note the trigger warning on this episode.

As it is Baby Loss Awareness Week, I want to hold space for anyone who has experienced loss, is grieving, or is navigating uncertainty in their fertility journey. In this episode, I’m resharing a previous conversation hosted by Kate Davis, my former co-host and an independent fertility nurse. Kate spoke with Jade, who bravely shared her story of miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy. This episode comes with a trigger warning as it discusses pregnancy loss in detail. If this is not the right time for you to listen, please take care of yourself and maybe explore other episodes from our ten-year archive.

Before we return to Jade’s episode, I want to briefly share something personal.

Last week, my family and I were caught up in the terrorist attack in Manchester during Yom Kippur, one of the holiest days in the Jewish calendar. We were at our synagogue when the lockdown happened. My husband, who volunteers for our community’s security, was outside in a stab-proof vest, which is a sad reality for British Jews. We spent the day on edge, and in the days since, it has taken a toll emotionally. I want to thank those who reached out with kindness and acknowledgement. If you have Jewish friends or colleagues, please take a moment to check in. A small gesture goes a long way.

Now, back to this important episode.

About this episode

In this powerful re-shared conversation, Kate speaks with Jade, who opens up about her journey through multiple pregnancy losses, including two ectopic pregnancies. Jade shares her experience navigating diagnosis, advocating for her own care, and the emotional and physical recovery process. She also reflects on the fear of trying again and the trauma of nearly losing her life.

What we talk about
  • Jade’s multiple pregnancy losses including miscarriage and two ectopic pregnancies
  • How she knew something was wrong even when the symptoms didn’t match textbook examples
  • Her experience with methotrexate treatment and emergency surgery after rupture
  • The importance of advocating for yourself when seeking medical help
  • Emotional trauma and grief following pregnancy loss
  • The mixed feelings around tube-saving surgery and IVF as a future path
  • Common myths about ectopic pregnancy and how symptoms can differ
  • How hospital staff and personal support helped her through it
  • The role of the Ectopic Pregnancy Trust and the support she received
  • Jade’s message to other people navigating early pregnancy and loss

Let’s keep the conversation going
Support for Baby Loss Awareness Week

If you or someone you know needs support, here are some brilliant charities offering resources, counselling, and community:


If you’re still listening, thank you. This podcast has always been about honesty, community and support. Whether you’ve been with us for years or just found us today, I hope you know you’re not alone. Please take a moment to follow the podcast in your app so you never miss an episode.

Until next time.

Race Across the World to MRKH Advocacy: Betty Mukherjee01 Oct 202500:29:50

Welcome to this episode of The Fertility Podcast and joined by Betty Mukherjee, who you may know, if you're a fan of Channel 4's Race Across the World as she was in series 4 with her brother James and spoke about her condition MRKH (Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser) and is now doing amazing advocacy work on the topic and sharing her own experiences as she finds out more regarding her family building options.

Betty opens up about receiving her MRKH diagnosis at 16, how it shattered the future she had imagined, and how sharing her story publicly on national TV changed her life. She reflects on the healing power of vulnerability, the support of her partner Dan, and the importance of balancing self-care, fitness, and mental wellbeing during fertility treatment.

What we talk about:

  • The challenges of being a teenager diagnosed with MRKH
  • Why conversations with siblings and friends were avoided for years
  • The reality of egg freezing, hormone injections, and physical side effects
  • The role of mental health support—both professional and personal
  • Using YouTube and social media to share raw, vulnerable moments
  • Finding comfort in everyday rituals, like lighting candles, cooking, and walking her dog, Maple

Betty’s story is one of resilience, advocacy, and hope—and a reminder that “shame dies when stories are shared in safe spaces.”

Resources & Links
Fueling your fertility- Diet and PCOS with Ro Huntriss24 Sep 202500:39:38

Welcome back to another episode of The Fertility Podcast, and if you're listening in real time, it's September, which means it’s PCOS Awareness Month, and that’s exactly what we’re focusing on today.

In this episode, I’m joined by Ro Huntriss, an award-winning fertility dietitian and founder of Fertility Dietitian UK. Ro breaks down what PCOS is, how nutrition and lifestyle changes can make a real difference, and how to advocate for yourself, especially when you feel dismissed or misunderstood by healthcare professionals.

What we talk about

●    Why conversations about fertility nutrition are finally becoming more mainstream

●    What PCOS (polycystic ovary syndrome) actually means and how it shows up differently for everyone

●    The emotional impact of being dismissed by your GP and how to push for answers

●    How to identify insulin resistance and support your body through nutrition

●    The truth about carbs – why reducing carbohydrate load and choosing low glycaemic index foods helps

●    What a balanced, PCOS-friendly breakfast, lunch, and dinner can actually look like

●    The role of resistance training, HIIT, sleep, and stress in PCOS management

●    Understanding supplements like inositol and when they might help

●    How to advocate for yourself with your GP using NHS resources and tracking symptoms

●    Misconceptions about fertility and PCOS – and why hope and progress are still possible

●    Managing the mental load of trying to conceive while navigating PCOS

●    Why support, education, and specialist care can change the journey completely

Let’s keep the conversation going


Different, Not Less: Life Without Children17 Sep 202500:27:11

Welcome to the latest episode of The Fertility Podcast, which is during World Childless Week. If this is your first time listening, welcome. I’m a fertility advocate, a podcaster, and a mum of one. During the last decade of making this podcast, I've shared many stories of people's route to parenthood talking about those who have brought home a baby and also those who haven't as I have always wanted to ensure that whatever you are going through, you can find people who you can relate to. I also have a deep responsibility to include the voices of those who are childless not by choice, as their experiences and the acceptance that comes with revaluating the reproductive story you might have grown up provides such valuable insight.

In this episode, I’m joined by Helen Gallagher, the inspiring voice behind the Happy and Childless podcast. Helen shares her powerful story of navigating grief, identity, and purpose after coming to terms with not having children. We talk about what acceptance really looks like, how the workplace can be more inclusive, and why connection and compassion matter more than ever.

If you’re in this place yourself, or you know someone who is, I hope this conversation helps you feel less alone. And if now is not the right time, that’s okay too. Just remember that when you are ready, there is a whole community out there waiting to welcome you.

What we talk about
  • Helen’s experience with involuntary childlessness and why she became an advocate
  • How her blog and podcast began as a therapeutic outlet and grew into coaching and workplace support
  • The emotional complexity of living in a blended family and grieving a path you never got to walk
  • Her journey of self acceptance, healing, and finding purpose after infertility
  • The power of community and why connection is vital when you feel isolated
  • How workplaces can unintentionally exclude employees who are childless not by choice
  • The impact of back to school season and family-focused milestones on the childless community
  • The importance of compassion, boundaries, and emotional literacy at work
  • What World Childless Week is and why it matters
  • Advice for anyone starting to process the idea of stopping fertility treatment
  • How Helen now helps others through coaching, podcasting, and advocacy
  • You are not alone. One in five women and one in four men do not have children, and most are not by choice.
  • Your worth is not defined by parental status.
  • Connection, community, and support are everything. There is no shame in seeking help.
  • Acceptance takes time. Grief and joy can co-exist.
  • Being childless does not mean being joyless. There is purpose and meaning on the other side of loss.

Let’s keep the conversation going

Here's other onspired convesations with The Fertility Podcast archives from people from the CNBC community


From The F Word at Work - the podcast I host for Fertility Matters at Work have a listen to: 


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Finding your People: Why fertility support groups matter10 Sep 202500:45:00

Hello and welcome to another episode of The Fertility Podcast. I’m Natalie Silverman, your host, and I’m so glad you’re here. This week’s episode is a bit different as I’m handing the mic over to Katie Rollings, founder of Fertility Action and a familiar voice on the pod.

Katie’s chatting with Sarah, one of the original members of the Fertility Action support groups, about her IVF experience, her partner’s diagnosis, and the ups and downs of navigating treatment. Sarah generously opens up about the emotional and physical toll of fertility treatment, and how support groups, nutrition, acupuncture, and speaking to others have helped her find strength through it all.

What we talk about:

  • Sarah’s fertility journey, starting with an unexpected male factor diagnosis just before Christmas
  • The impact of delays and lack of communication within the NHS
  • Why they went private, and how they made early decisions to pursue IVF and microtese
  • The emotional toll of IVF failures, and the support that helped her feel less alone
  • Sarah’s experience navigating fertility in the workplace and opening up to colleagues
  • The effect of infertility on relationships, and how she and her husband learnt to support each other in different ways
  • Discovering the importance of nutrition and thyroid health with a fertility nutritionist
  • Switching to mild IVF and learning to advocate for herself at every step
  • What she found in the Fertility Action support group: community, routine, understanding
  • Talking therapy, nutrition, acupuncture and peer support as part of her toolkit
  • Sarah’s brilliant injection tip and her #IVFninja moment
  • Male mental health and how her partner processed his diagnosis
  • Sarah’s call to action for more fertility education and support in schools and primary care

This conversation is raw, real, and a beautiful reminder of how much power there is in being seen and heard by people who get it. Thank you, Sarah, for sharing your story and showing us that it's okay to find your own way through.

Let’s keep the conversation going

  • What do you wish you’d known before starting treatment?
  • Who’s helped you feel seen on this journey?
  • Have you joined a support group before? What was your experience?
  • What’s been the most unexpected part of your fertility experience?
  • Have you tried acupuncture or nutrition support? Did it help?

Huge thank you to our sponsor One Day Tests - use the code TFP10 at checkout for a discount

Links and Resources:


We also mention fertility acupuncturist Hannah Pearn

PLEASE do subscribe or leave a review. It really helps others find the podcast, and I’d love to know what’s resonating with you xx

So do you have kids? Green Man Festival live podcast03 Sep 202500:52:48

Hi, it's Natalie here. After a bit of a summer pause (thanks to some tech drama), I’m thrilled to be back with a truly special episode. This one was recorded live at the Green Man Festival, on the Pandemonium Stage in Einstein’s Garden, and it’s a conversation I’ve been dreaming about for a long time. If you've been to a festival over the summer and think this type of conversation would fit, do let me know. Feel free to leave a comment wherever you listen or scroll to the bottom to find out more.

We tackled one of the most common yet complicated questions many of us face:

“So, do you have kids?” 

It seems innocent, but for so many, it opens the door to grief, awkwardness, and a whole lot of emotional weight. In this episode, we explore why that question can hurt and what we might ask instead.

I was joined by four incredible guests who generously shared their personal stories and wisdom on stage:

  • Mel Johnson, solo parent coach and founder of The Stork and I
  • Shema Tariq, academic, writer, baby loss advocate and Tommy’s trustee
  • Betty Mukherjee, MRKH campaigner and Race Across the World finalist
  • And my husband, Rich Silverman, who opened up publicly for the first time about our journey with male factor infertility and the mental health impact on him

What we talked about
  • Why the question “Do you have kids?” can be so deeply painful when you’re navigating infertility, baby loss, or childlessness not by choice
  • Mel’s journey to solo motherhood and the way people still make assumptions about women who choose that path
  • Shema’s IVF experience using donor eggs, the heart breaking loss of her baby at 21 weeks, and how her cultural background shaped her experience
  • Betty’s diagnosis of MRKH at 16 and how she opened up about it during her time on national TV
  • Rich’s journey with male factor infertility and how counselling helped him move forward, plus why more men need space to share too
  • The words we use around fertility and family, and how language can uplift or hurt
  • Talking to children about solo parenting and donor conception, and why openness matters
  • The trauma of fertility treatment, especially for people of colour, and the inequalities that still exist
  • How to truly show up for loved ones going through these journeys, and why "I'm here if you ever want to talk" is sometimes not enough

Better ways to connect

If you're ever unsure of what to say instead of “Do you have kids?”, here are a few suggestions we shared:

  • “What’s been bringing you joy lately?”
  • “What’s been going on in your world?”
  • “What are you passionate about these days?”

And most importantly: ask twice. Sometimes people need that second invitation to feel safe opening up.

Have a listen to my chat with Shema previously - way back in 2022

What do I need to think about when going abroad for donor treatment? • The Fertility Podcast 

Let’s keep the conversation going

Thank you to our show sponsor One Day Tests.

What's coming up on The Fertility Podcast28 Aug 202500:04:24

Just a note to say, we'll be back very soon (hopefully 3rd September 2025) continuing sharing stories and expert opinion after a break.. caused by tech issues! We'll have some different voices coming up Please do make sure you subscribe in your favourite podcast app, and also get in touch.

I mentioned World Childless Week and you can find out more here and don't forget we are the official podcast for Fertility Action so you can stay up to date with the amazing work they are doing from the links below x

Links & Resources:


Making sense of Unexplained infertility with James Nicopoullos23 Jul 202500:23:37

Welcome to this episode of The Fertility Podcast, the official podcast of Fertility Action. In this conversation, Natalie is joined by long-time friend of the show and Fertility Action trustee Dr. James Nicopoullos, consultant gynaecologist and medical director at The Lister. They dive into the often frustrating diagnosis of unexplained infertility - what it actually means, how it impacts your treatment options, and what you can do when you feel like you're hitting a wall.

This episode also covers highlights from Fertility Action’s recent campaign in Parliament, new shifts in male fertility awareness, and why conversations around fertility at work still have a long way to go.

What we discuss:

  • Parliament updates and raising awareness about cuts to NHS fertility funding
  • The Fertility Show and how to handle the overwhelm as a new patient
  • James' role as a Fertility Action trustee and why he believes in Katie’s mission
  • What unexplained infertility really means (and why it's so common)
  • The emotional toll of having no clear answers, especially for people used to being in control
  • Questions to ask your doctor when faced with unexplained or subfertility
  • What to rule out: hormones, anatomy, sperm DNA, and more
  • The reality of add-ons and how to weigh evidence-based versus emerging options
  • When it makes sense to seek a second opinion and how clinics typically respond
  • The evolving conversation around male infertility and the importance of male involvement
  • Fertility in the workplace, what patients are still dealing with, and how employers can do better
  • Why infertility still isn’t fully recognized as a legitimate health condition in some policies
  • How education, advocacy, and testing are slowly shifting public perception

Quote to remember:

“You should be using your annual leave for a holiday, not to do fertility treatment.”

Listen if you’re:

Dealing with a diagnosis of unexplained infertility, feeling stuck after multiple cycles, or needing a reminder that there are still questions worth asking and answers worth pursuing.

Links & Resources

  • Follow Fertility Action: @fertility.action
  • DM Natalie: @fertilitypoddy
  • Email: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  • Subscribe to the podcast on your app of choice
  • Learn more about Dr. James Nicopoullos: Lister Fertility Clinic
  • Explore Fertility Action’s support groups and advocacy work: fertilityaction.org

Fertility Treatment is Healthcare so WHY the funding cuts?09 Jul 202500:21:19

In this powerful and passionate episode, Natalie is joined once again by Katie Rollings, founder of Fertility Action, the UK's newest fertility charity. As a returning guest, Katie provides an urgent and inspiring update on the charity’s current work, including critical campaigning efforts, growing support groups, and the ever-pressing fight against the fertility funding postcode lottery.

Together, Natalie and Katie discuss:

  • The expansion of Fertility Action's support groups and community
  • The emotional toll of fertility treatment and the gaps in support post-treatment
  • Why peer connection and bespoke support are crucial
  • Ongoing parliamentary campaigning for fair fertility treatment access
  • How to get involved by writing to your MP
  • The need for a male fertility focus in healthcare strategy
  • Urgent updates on changes to NHS fertility funding in Sussex and beyond
  • Katie also opens up about the emotional challenges of fighting for change while encountering public misunderstanding and resistance and why she refuses to give up.
  • Plans for culturally diverse and condition-specific groups (like secondary infertility) are in motion—making sure everyone feels seen and heard.
  • Fertility Action is looking for empathetic volunteers to host support groups. Training and supervision will be provided. If you’re 3+ years post-treatment and can commit to a year, they’d love to hear from you.
  • Male participation in support groups is still limited, but growing. There’s a need for more male facilitators and attendees—especially to normalize male perspectives on infertility.
  • Groups meet on Tuesday and Thursday evenings. Join with your mic or camera on or off, even in your PJs! It’s a low-pressure, welcoming environment

Take Action:

Write to Your MP - Encourage them to attend the fertility campaign event in Parliament on Wednesday, 16 July. Use the Fertility Action letter template

Join the Conversation on Male Fertility & Mental Health

Contribute to the ongoing male fertility survey submissions close Wednesday, 17 July. H

Helpful Links:


BONUS EPISODE: IVF Abroad - Understanding guarantees in egg donation programs07 Jul 202500:24:30

In the final episode of this three-part mini-series, created in partnership with fertilityclinicsabroad.com, Natalie is joined once more by Joanna Jewell, Head of Patient Experience at IVF Media, to demystify the world of egg donation guarantees. 

Whether you’re exploring donor eggs, embryo donation, or refund-based pregnancy guarantees, this episode breaks it all down. Joanna explains how these programs work, what they include, who they’re for, and what to ask before you commit. 

What we discuss: 

  • What egg donation programs actually are and what’s included 
  • The difference between oocyte and blastocyst guarantees 
  • What to expect with embryo donation and double donation (egg + sperm) 
  • Pregnancy and live birth guarantee programs and the truth behind the fine print 
  • Refund guarantees: how they work, what they cost, and how much you could get back  
  • Common requirements to qualify for guarantee programs 
  • Transparency matters: why it’s essential to ask what’s included and what’s not 
  • Additional costs to prepare for: medication, storage fees, testing, and admin 
  • Donor availability for different ethnicities and specific features (like red hair) 
  • The emotional reality when things don’t work even with a “guarantee” 
  • What support clinics do (and don’t) offer after unsuccessful cycles 
  • Why support groups, peer connections, and advocacy matter in your journey 
  • Embryo shipping after Brexit: is it still possible to bring material back to the UK? 

Links & Resources: 

Let’s Stay Connected 


 

BONUS EPISODE: IVF Abroad - Navigating Treatment after 40 with your own eggs07 Jul 202500:21:16

In this second episode of our special mini-series with fertilityclinicsabroad.com, Natalie is joined once again by Joanna Jewell, Head of Patient Experience at IVF Media, to explore the realities of IVF abroad if you're over 40 and using your own eggs. 

This episode is packed with honest, compassionate, and practical advice for older patients whether you're solo, in a couple, or part of the LGBTQ+ community. Joanna shares what to expect, how to manage your options, and how to emotionally prepare for the challenges and decisions ahead. 

What we discuss: 

  • Are there age restrictions for IVF with your own eggs abroad? 
  • The difference between clinic policies and country laws 
  • The reality of success rates over 40 and why some clinics will say no 
  • What PGT-A testing is and why it’s often recommended after age 38 
  • Navigating treatment decisions in LGBTQ+ couples, including ROPA treatment 
  • Countries that are more inclusive (and those that aren't) for solo women and LGBTQ+ patients 
  • The psychological weight of choosing between own eggs and donor eggs 
  • How IVF Media handles difficult conversations with honesty, support, and care 
  • What happens when partners aren’t on the same page and the role of counseling 
  • Why over 40s often go abroad: more treatment options, fewer restrictions, and better support 
  • Understanding the risks and clinic policies around multiple embryo transfer 
  • Additional tests some clinics require (like cardiac screening and blood work) 
  • Planning logistics around school holidays, remote work, and personal comfort 
  • Choosing a clinic near the beach? Joanna says yes, whatever lowers stress! 

Links & Resources: 

Let’s Stay Connected 


 

BONUS EPISODE: IVF Abroad - How to Choose a Clinic?07 Jul 202500:23:12

In this special mini-series of The Fertility Podcast, created in partnership with fertilityclinicsabroad.com, Natalie is joined by Joanna Jewell, Head of Patient Experience at IVF Media, to explore the ins and outs of going abroad for fertility treatment. 

If you’re considering IVF outside of the UK, this series is here to help you make well-informed, confident decisions. From country-specific options to success rates and cost comparisons, Joanna shares expert insights, practical tips, and emotional support to guide you every step of the way. 

What we discuss: 

  • The most popular IVF destinations for UK patients: Spain, Czech Republic, Portugal, Greece, and North Cyprus 
  • Key factors to consider when choosing a clinic abroad: distance, cost, treatment options, and personal comfort 
  • How donor anonymity laws vary by country and why they matter for future children 
  • IVF treatment costs abroad (and why cheapest isn’t always best) 
  • Using the IVF cost calculator from Fertility Clinics Abroad to plan your budget 
  • Why clinic success rates aren’t always comparable and what to ask instead 
  • Common pitfalls: compromising your boundaries or ignoring your gut feeling 
  • What to ask a clinic before booking and why personal match matters more than popularity 
  • Support for solo women, LGBTQ+ patients, and ethnic background considerations when choosing donor programs 
  • The role of IVF Media in providing holistic support from logistics and workplace planning to emotional guidance and post-treatment care 
  • Why timing, mindset, and communication (especially as a couple) are so key when choosing treatment abroad 

Links & Resources: 

Let’s Stay Connected 

  • Learn more at: fertilityclinicsabroad.com 
  • Follow on Instagram @fertility_clinics_abroad
  • Try their IVF Cost Calculator 
  • Reach out to Joanna’s team via the website for tailored support 
  • Follow Natalie on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy 
  • Email Natalie: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 
  • Subscribe to The Fertility Podcast for more support, stories, and smart decision-making 

Choosing a fertility clinic with the HFEA and Emma the Embryologist03 Jul 202500:54:47

Welcome to this episode of The Fertility Podcast, in conversation with the HFEA and Emma Whitney aka Emma the Embryologist  Director of Embryology and Genetics at The Evewell also a trustee for Fertility Action. You'll hear from both ladies, about the work that is being done to help you make a more informed decision when it comes to choosing a fertility clinic.

What we discussed:

-What the HFEA does, how it is set up to license and inspect all fertility clinics and embryo research centres

-The duty it has to share data, which it has recorded since 1991 and it publishes data on what is happening across the UK

-The increase in IVF cycles has increased to 1 child in every classroom and how the laws are strict anonymity rules in terms of who can access information about who has treatment. 

-Increase in same sex couple and single patients having treatment 

-Increase in number of people freezing their eggs and the usage

-Funded cycles by the NHS and privately funded and how people are getting the money together - from remortgaging their house, doing crowd funding, bike rides for charity

-Plea for GP’s and primary care service providers to refer people as quickly as possible 

-Issues around outcomes in Black women and what more patients can do to get a referral from a primary care provider and how it’s an outrage that there is such discrepancy. 

-Choose a Fertility Clinic service - on the HFEA website, if you’re looking for a clinic and how you can look by postcode / name of clinic and there’s information on what the Inspectors think of the clinic. There’s an ability for other patients to rate it and how the feedback goes directly to inspectors. 

-How one of the most important considerations is location. 

-How the impact of social media and friends and family might affect your decisions and why it’s good to look at more than one clinic and that there are more and more clinics doing online open evenings as what might have been good for your friend, it has to be right for you. 

-How today people talk about it much more on social media 

-Emma shared her personal story and how she became a trustee for Fertility Action.

-Emma gives her insights on the Choose a fertility clinic data and we discuss what else patients need to be mindful of in terms of discrepencies and age consideration.

Links & Resources:

Let’s Stay Connected 

  • DM Natalie on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy 
  • Follow Fertility Action: @fertility.action
  • Email thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 
  • Subscribe on your podcast app to stay updated 
  • Read the HFEA report here 
  • Visit the Choose a fertility clinic page here
  • Follow Emma here

Finding Joy in Nature with Jessica Hepburn25 Jun 202500:17:54

Welcome to this mini episode of The Fertility Podcast, where Natalie is joined by author, adventurer, and fertility campaigner Jessica Hepburn to explore the powerful role of nature in healing during fertility struggles. Natalie and Jessica recently spent the weekend together at the Love Her Wild North event embracing the power of community in the natural world.

What we discuss:

-The outdoors and your mental health when you are in a fertility hole

-Love her Wild and the benefits of it for the fertility community. Love her Wild is about women who love the outdoors or want to get to love them - there were people talking about massive adventures and those sharing their little adventures. 

-Jessica touches on her fertility journey involving multiple losses, 11 rounds of IVF

-How nature saved her life after Project Baby and at age 43 she made the decision to pursue adventure and nature. 

-How the outdoors merges with the fertility world with Natalie and Jessica 

-Nature is a healer, from looking at the birds in your garden or learning about trees to going on journeys. 

-The importance of living in the wait rather than waiting to live and how nature can be enjoyed for FREE

-Getting into green will shift things - it won’t change what you are going through right now and the hardness or the outcome but it will help you find those pockets of joy.

-How starting a blessing book really helped her during the hardest times of her treatment

-Going for a walk, listening to a podcast, or walking in silence with a friend you can connect with or talk about anything. 

-Jessica talks bout her 2nd book 21 days and how she found acceptance and found other ways to be happy yet she will always carry a sadness from not being a mother. 

-‘Melonjoy’ - that feeling when someone tells you that they’re pregnant and you are not and it’s what you want more than anything. You feel happy for them but sad for you at the same time.. a fusion of melancholy and joy and it’s a real thing you can feel both at the same time… 

Links & Resources:

Let’s Stay Connected 

  • DM Natalie on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy 
  • Follow Fertility Action: @fertility.action
  • Email thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 
  • Subscribe on your podcast app to stay updated 

Follow Jessica:

Jessica discusses her newest book 'Save me from the Waves'

Jessica's first ever chat on The Fertility Podcastin 2014

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Find out more about Jessica's work, her books and her adventures here Connect with Jessica on Instagram

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World Fertility Awards with Andrea Syrtash18 Jun 202500:33:54

In this episode, Natalie is speaking to an amazing fertility advocate who she’s known in this space for almost a decade, yet this is the first conversation the pair of them have had on the podcast. Andrea Syrtash is the Founder and Editor in Chief of Pregnantish.

Pregnantish went live in 2017, and Andrea describes it as “the state you’re in when trying to conceive,” which the pair go on to discuss.

What Was Discussed:
  • Andrea’s diagnosis of Endometriosis at 14 years old and how she was put on the pill and could go to school and function, having been really suffering
  • Andrea discusses the 18 treatments she had: IUIs, egg retrievals over many years
  • How she got pregnant from IUI and why she continued down that route—despite that pregnancy not continuing—as they had access to unlimited IUI and 3 rounds of IVF
  • How in Year 5 a Canadian doctor told her: “It should have worked by now. You produce beautiful embryos and should be pregnant by now,” and that she needed to consider gestational surrogacy
  • The grief and acceptance of not being able to use her own body—and the relief she felt having had to deal with so many losses anymore
  • Her work as an author and relationship coach and the impact it had on her relationship, and how her TV profile impacted her life at that time
  • How she launched Pregnantish as a relationship platform
  • “This is as much a relationship issue as a physical, financial, mental and emotional journey.”
  • How launching the platform was the greatest gift—sharing other people’s stories helped her navigate her own experience, and Natalie talks about how the podcast was also her therapy
  • How her cousin Alana was her surrogate and their surrogacy pathway was in Canada, yet two dropped out including one ghosting her just before the transfer
  • In 2018, her depression after the second surrogate had dropped out and how her cousin offered to be her surrogate, using Andrea’s frozen embryo which had been in the freezer for 2 years
  • Her retrieval was two years to the day before it was transferred into her cousin
  • How her cousin sought advice from her Rabbi and how the Jewish press reacted, as it hadn’t been spoken about
  • The significance of trying to rebuild their family as so many members of their family were lost in the Second World War, in Hungary
  • The selflessness of surrogates and what surrogates have to tell their family and friends—how her cousin talked to her children and how they were scared to see Andrea as they thought her belly was broken and would be bleeding
  • Link to previous episodes about Surrogacy, Donation, and Pregnantish
  • The World Fertility Awards—happening in New York in December for all patient advocates
  • Host committees across around 10 regions worldwide: Europe, Middle East, Africa, Latin America, North America, India, and Australia
  • Pregnantish reaches hundreds of thousands of people each month, sometimes over 1 million—it’s a global audience
  • Join the pledge for the World Fertility Project—asking people to take a pledge, aiming for 1 million signatures to change the conversation
  • How Andrea feels about the fertility conversation in the patient space today
  • Regions of the world where people are so scared about saying out loud they are infertile
  • Natalie shares a story she had printed in a tabloid
  • How more companies are giving people the chance to opt out of Mother’s Day and Father’s Day emails

Links:

World Fertility Awards

https://www.worldfertilityawards.com/

https://www.instagram.com/worldfertilityawards


Let’s Stay Connected 

  • DM Natalie on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy 
  • Follow Fertility Action: @fertility.action
  • Email thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 
  • Subscribe on your podcast app to stay updated 

A Word From Our Sponsor – Proceive 

We’re delighted to be partnering with Proceive this season. Their high-strength fertility supplements for men and women are trusted by healthcare professionals and available in-store at Holland & Barrett or online. 

Use code FP20 for 20 percent off your order at www.proceive.com 

Infertility, Acne and a New Beginning - Sian Lousie from Obvs Skincare11 Jun 202500:36:55

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, Natalie sits down with Sian Louise, founder of OBVS Skincare, to explore how one woman turned personal loss, infertility, and cervical cancer into a mission to create safe, effective, and hormone-friendly skincare. 

Sian opens up about her fertility journey, including multiple miscarriages, the emotional impact of IVF, her cancer diagnosis, and how hormonal acne during treatment became the catalyst for OBVS Skincare. She also shares evidence-based insights into harmful skincare ingredients, like microplastics and endocrine disruptors, and how they may impact fertility. 

This conversation is part of the Meet the Makers series, celebrating founders whose lived experience with fertility has inspired impactful, purpose-driven businesses. 

What We Talk About 

  • Sian’s IVF journey, miscarriages, and cancer diagnosis 
  • How hormonal acne during IVF led to creating OBVS Skincare 
  • The lack of awareness around skincare ingredients and fertility 
  • What endocrine disruptors are and how they affect hormones 
  • How Sian built her certified organic, vegan skincare line from scratch 
  • Her passion for educating people on safe alternatives 
  • The impact of OBVS products on real families and babies 
  • Why advocating for yourself in medical settings is essential 
  • Sian’s advice for managing skin health during fertility treatment 

Resources & Links 


Let’s Stay Connected 

  • DM Natalie on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy 
  • Follow Fertility Action: @fertility.action
  • Email thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 
  • Subscribe on your podcast app to stay updated 

A Word From Our Sponsor – Proceive 

We’re delighted to be partnering with Proceive this season. Their high-strength fertility supplements for men and women are trusted by healthcare professionals and available in-store at Holland & Barrett or online. 

Use code FP20 for 20 percent off your order at www.proceive.com 

Fertility Justice & LGBTQ+ Parenthood: Laura-Rose Thorogood’s Fight for Equity04 Jun 202500:27:10

In this powerful Pride Month episode of The Fertility Podcast, Natalie is joined by the inspiring Laura-Rose Thorogood, founder of LGBT Mummies, CEO of Make Births Better, and proud mother of four donor-conceived children. 

Laura-Rose shares her raw and deeply personal fertility journey, from IUI and IVF to pregnancy loss, secondary infertility, and birth trauma. But this episode is about more than just personal experience. It’s about advocacy, equity, and making space for every type of family. 

You’ll also hear why she joined Fertility Action as a Trustee, her take on what’s missing in fertility funding for the LGBTQ+ community, and what real inclusion should look like in the workplace and beyond. 

What We Talk About 

  • Laura-Rose’s decade-long fertility journey, loss, trauma, and family joy 
  • Why she founded LGBT Mummies and how it grew into a global community 
  • The impact of systemic discrimination, lack of inclusive funding, and workplace inequality 
  • Fertility justice, policy change, and recent campaign work in Parliament 
  • How co-production, safe spaces, and queer representation are key to lasting change 
  • Practical advice for anyone feeling overwhelmed or unsupported in their journey 
  • Why emotional safety and peer support are essential for LGBTQ+ people navigating fertility 

Links and Resources 


Let’s Stay Connected 

  • DM Natalie on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy 
  • Follow Fertility Action: @fertility.action
  • Email thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 
  • Subscribe on your podcast app to stay updated 

A Word From Our Sponsor – Proceive 

We’re delighted to be partnering with Proceive this season. Their high-strength fertility supplements for men and women are trusted by healthcare professionals and available in-store at Holland & Barrett or online. 

Use code FP20 for 20 percent off your order at www.proceive.com 

Endometriosis Unveiled with Professor Andrew Horne28 May 202500:45:57

In this episode of The Fertility Podcast, we’re lifting the lid on Endometriosis what it is, what’s still misunderstood, and how change is (finally) coming.

You'll hear from Brianna Stayt an Endometriosis UK ambassador sharing her 20-year journey and incredible awareness raising events - Natalie was hosting the event and as well as chatting with Brianna, spoke with Professor Adnan Bunkheila, Endometriosis nurse Sam Robinson and her daughter Shannon. The episode is then a fascinating conversation with Professor Andrew Horne , leading Endometriosis researcher and the Director of the Centre for Reproductive Health at the University of Edinburgh.

What we discuss
  1. Why diagnosis takes years and how we can change that
  2. What endometriosis really is (and why "stages" don’t tell the full story)
  3. The wide range of symptoms: pain, fatigue, gut issues, fertility struggles
  4. How mental health, diet & acupuncture can support care see below links to research
  5. The realities and limitations of hysterectomy as a treatment
  6. The Endo1000 Project: using AI, smartwatches & patient diaries to revolutionize research
  7. Where to find help, support, and community

Whether you’re living with endometriosis or supporting someone who is, this episode is full of insight, hope, and real-world advice.

Links & Resources:
  1. Endometriosis UK
  2. Fertility Action –weekly support groups & free advocacy tools
  3. Endo1000 Project details
  4. The Guardian article about Andrew's paper:
  5. The paper:

Let’s Stay Connected:
  1. DM me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  2. Follow @fertilityaction for updates
  3. Email: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  4. Hit subscribe so you never miss an episode

✨ Thanks to our sponsor, Proceive

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Thanks for listening. I’ve got a really good feeling about this new chapter and I hope you’ll stick with me as we keep sharing stories, raising awareness, and doing what we can to support each other through this journey

Words of Resillience - Part 223 May 202500:39:51

In this moving conclusion to our poetry mini-series, Natalie and Stacey bring the final chapters of Stacy’s IVF journey to life through her stunning poems. If you’ve been walking this path or loving someone who is this episode is a powerful companion.

Stacey shares not just the pain and loss, but the moments of quiet courage and the slow emergence of hope. From letting go to holding on, from disbelief to the unspoken darkness, and finally to The Light.

What we discuss:
  • The Hopeless: Letting go, hitting emotional and physical limits, and facing a new reality.
  • The Disbelief: Surrendering control, choosing silence for self-preservation, and the tentative reappearance of hope.
  • The Unspoken Darkness: What no one tells you about after a successful IVF — fear, anxiety, and the struggle to feel joy again.
  • The Light: Healing doesn’t mean forgetting. The journey shapes us — even when the darkness begins to fade.
  • Navigating pregnancy after infertility — and the neuroses it brings
  • Feeling robbed of joy even after good news — and why that’s okay
  • Parenting one child and answering complex questions about family and origin
  • Why the pain of infertility never fully disappears, but transforms over time
  • How poetry became a powerful outlet — and how you can start writing, too

"The journey shaped me. It tested me. It broke us down. It built us up. It will never fully go away — but it feels distant now. Smaller. In the rearview mirror."

Also, check out the recommended podcast Finally Pregnant by Cat Strawbridge for more on pregnancy after infertility.

⚠️ Trigger Warning

This episode includes discussion of IVF trauma, pregnancy loss, PTSD, and emotional distress during and after fertility treatment. Please take care when listening, and pause if it feels overwhelming.

🎧 And Finally...

If you’ve made it through this three-part series — thank you. Whether you're in the thick of your fertility journey or reflecting from the other side, this series is here to hold space for all the complexity, sorrow, strength, and transformation that this experience brings.

As Stacey says, "The light for everyone is going to look a little different — whether that’s a baby or peace."

You're not alone.

Stacy’s poems are now available in a self-published collection on Amazon here

Let’s Stay Connected 

💬 DM me on Instagram @fertilitypoddy 

🌐 Follow @fertilityaction for updates and support 

🖥 Check out their free weekly support groups and downloadable advocacy tools at fertilityaction.org 

📧 Got thoughts, feedback, or ideas for future episodes? Email me at natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 

📱 Don’t forget to hit subscribe so we land in your feed each week 

A Word From Our Sponsor – Proceive 

We're delighted to be partnering with Proceive this season. If you're trying to conceive, you’ll want to check them out. Their high-strength fertility supplements are designed for both men and women and are trusted by healthcare professionals. 

✨ Get 20% off your order at www.proceive.com using the code FP20 at checkout. 

Words of Resilience- Poetry for Navigating Fertility Struggles22 May 202500:34:59

In this heartfelt episode, Natalie is speaking with Stacy, a listener who reached out to share a series of powerful, deeply personal poems written throughout her fertility experience. What began as a simple message turned into a beautiful collaboration and the start of a special three-part poetry mini-series as Natalie asked Stacy if she could record her poems and the pair talk them through - which is what you're going to hear across two episodes.

Stacy opens up about the emotional weight of infertility, the isolation she felt while navigating treatment, and how writing helped her process what words often couldn’t express. We explore the tension between staying silent and speaking out, and how she found her own balance between vulnerability and protection.

We also discuss:

  • How her first poem, The Waiting Room, was born out of shared silence and communal pain and how seemingly simple questions like “How are you?” can become painfully complex
  • The emotional symptoms of fertility trauma, and why it's okay to be both open and guarded
  • The healing value of putting pen to paper and the power of being seen and heard
  • Why poetry can provide a safe space for reflection, release, and connection
  • The overwhelming pressure to "do things right" in the beginning from switching soaps to trying acupuncture and tea and the illusion of control many experience before receiving a diagnosis.
  • The complexity of receiving a male factor infertility diagnosis, the emotional balancing act it requires in a relationship, and the importance of staying united as a couple. 
  • The lack of adequate support for male partners and the growing awareness around this gap.
  • The realization: This is now my story.
  • Moments of empowerment and collapse from filming herself doing shots, to sobbing on the floor after work, to injecting herself at a wedding or even in a clinic exam chair.
  • The most absurd injection stories from toilets at awards shows to wedding receptions. It’s a reminder of the humor, resilience, and community in this often isolating process.

Stacy’s poems are now available in a self-published collection on Amazon here

Let’s Stay Connected 

💬 DM me on Instagram @fertilitypoddy 

🌐 Follow @fertilityaction for updates and support 

🖥 Check out their free weekly support groups and downloadable advocacy tools at fertilityaction.org 

📧 Got thoughts, feedback, or ideas for future episodes? Email me at natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 

📱 Don’t forget to hit subscribe so we land in your feed each week 

A Word From Our Sponsor – Proceive 

We're delighted to be partnering with Proceive this season. If you're trying to conceive, you’ll want to check them out. Their high-strength fertility supplements are designed for both men and women and are trusted by healthcare professionals. 

✨ Get 20% off your order at www.proceive.com using the code FP20 at checkout. 

Thanks for listening 💜 

Words that Heal with Julianne Boutaleb21 May 202500:30:10

Welcome to The Fertility Podcast. This episode is something a little different and a little special. I’ve always used the podcast as a way to process, reflect, and hopefully offer support to you wherever you are on your fertility journey. But in this episode, we’re exploring how poetry can become a powerful emotional outlet especially when words are hard to find.

I’m joined by the brilliant perinatal psychologist Julianne Boutaleb (you might know her as @parenthoodinmind on Instagram), who offers her clinical and deeply human insights into fertility trauma, identity loss, and psychological support. You’ll also be hearing the beginnings of a heartfelt mini-series inspired by a listener named Stacy, who sent me a set of poems that absolutely floored me.

This episode is part one of a three-part poetry series and I would love to know what you think.

Here’s what we covered in this episode:

  • What the “reproductive story” is and how infertility shatters it
  • The emotional symptoms of fertility trauma, including avoidance and identity loss
  • The value of early psychological support and how to tailor it to where you are in your journey
  • How poetry can provide safety, validation, and emotional release
  • Why Julianne and Stacey both use poetry to process their experiences
  • A beautiful live reading of Julianne’s original poems: Unrequited and Waiting and Trying
  • How putting pen to paper might just help you feel seen—and less alone

Thank you to Julianne and Stacy and you'll hear more from Stacy and her poems in the next two episodes so make sure you've subscribed.

Julianne’s voice always grounds me, and her words in this episode are powerful. Stacy’s poems will be featured in our next episodes, and I can’t wait for you to hear them. Whether you’re a poet or not, I hope this gives you permission to feel, to reflect, and to find your own release.

Let’s Stay Connected 

💬 DM me on Instagram @fertilitypoddy 

🌐 Follow @fertilityaction for updates and support 

🖥 Check out their free weekly support groups and downloadable advocacy tools at fertilityaction.org 

📧 Got thoughts, feedback, or ideas for future episodes? Email me at natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 

📱 Don’t forget to hit subscribe so we land in your feed each week 

A Word From Our Sponsor – Proceive 

We're delighted to be partnering with Proceive this season. If you're trying to conceive, you’ll want to check them out. Their high-strength fertility supplements are designed for both men and women and are trusted by healthcare professionals. 

✨ Get 20% off your order at www.proceive.com using the code FP20 at checkout. 

Thanks for listening 💜 

 


Strengthening the voice for Fertility Support - Fertility Action Launches14 May 202500:45:58

The Fertility Podcast is back with Big News: The Fertility Podcast Joins Forces with Fertility Action!

Welcome to the first episode in our brand new series of The Fertility Podcast, it's Natalie and I’m so excited to be back behind the mic and even more thrilled to share that this season, we’re doing something special. I’ve teamed up with Fertility Action, a new charity doing vital work to improve access to fertility support and treatment. 

In this episode, I’m joined by the inspiring Katie Rowlings, the founder of Fertility Action.

Katie shares her deeply personal story seven years, five rounds of IVF, the trauma, the heartbreak, the hope and what led her to launch a charity during Fertility Week.

We also talk about the bigger picture: how we can create fairer access to treatment, build better support networks, and make sure no one feels alone on this path. 

Here's what we talked about: 

  • Katie’s raw and honest account of her fertility journey, including the emotional and physical toll 
  • Why she founded Fertility Action and the real change it's already creating 
  • How the charity is tackling the postcode lottery in NHS fertility access 
  • The incredible power of community, and how support groups (for both women and men) are helping people feel less alone 
  • Why psychological safety and trauma informed support are at the heart of everything they do 
  • The importance of involving medical experts and how some of the best in the field are backing the charity 
  • Tips for attending the Fertility Show without feeling overwhelmed 
  • And the exciting news: The Fertility Podcast is now the official podcast of Fertility Action 🎉 

A Huge Thank You to Katie 

Katie’s passion is infectious. Her drive to turn pain into purpose is exactly what our community needs right now. If her story resonated with you—or if you know someone who could use this kind of support please share this episode. 

Let’s Stay Connected 

💬 DM me on Instagram @fertilitypoddy 

🌐 Follow @fertilityaction for updates and support 

🖥 Check out their free weekly support groups and downloadable advocacy tools at fertilityaction.org  and you can sign up for the support right here

📧 Got thoughts, feedback, or ideas for future episodes? Email me at natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com 

📱 Don’t forget to hit subscribe so we land in your feed each week 

A Word From Our Sponsor – Proceive 

We're delighted to be partnering with Proceive this season. If you're trying to conceive, you’ll want to check them out. Their high strength fertility supplements are designed for both men and women and are trusted by healthcare professionals. 

✨ Get 20% off your order at www.proceive.com using the code FP20 at checkout. 

Thanks for listening. I’ve got a really good feeling about this new chapter and I hope you’ll stick with me as we keep sharing stories, raising awareness, and doing what we can to support each other through this journey. 💜 

 

*Coming soon from The Fertility Podcast*16 Apr 202500:01:13

We couldn't stay quiet, so make sure you subscribe wherever you get your podcasts to find out what's coming on The Fertility Podcast.

I'll be happy when... featuring Kate Cocker16 Dec 202400:53:49

In the heartfelt final episode of this series—and the podcast—Kate hosts one last time, joined by fellow podcaster Kate Cocker, to explore happiness, positivity, and the emotional rollercoaster of the fertility journey. Do listen to the end as you'll also hear a message from Natalie, with a small ask about a survey we'd like you to complete.

Together, Kate and Kate reflect on the challenges of navigating hope and disappointment. Kate shares how the ups and downs can feel overwhelming, often leaving people afraid to hope for fear of being let down. It's an emotional struggle that can be all-consuming.

In response, Kate Cocker introduces The 7 Pillars of Happiness: be self-full, accept the now, practice gratitude, check your self-talk, make a rainbow, manage your energy, and clear your mind. These principles offer a foundation for finding joy and balance, even in difficult times.

This heartfelt conversation encourages you to seek out moments of happiness and hold onto them as a source of strength through your journey.

Tune in to this inspiring episode for wisdom, comfort, and practical advice to support you on your path.

OUR SPONSOR:

We are delighted that the current series is being sponsored by Proceive who are kindly offering all listeners to The Fertility Podcast 15% off any Procieve purchase, when you use the discount code FP15.

Socials:

Follow @YourFertilityNurse on Instagram

Follow @TheFertilityPodcast on Instagram

Check these out!

https://www.thepresentercoach.co.uk/

https://www.instagram.com/thepresentercoach/ and https://www.instagram.com/officialeverydaypositivity/

Every Day Positivity Podcast available on Spotify

Survey Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScBD3cObrjlqP9KQzYVeRL4m9jjTTtk403oiX7jsaLQ-FRW2Q/viewform?usp=sf_link

Also please check out the archive episodes of The Fertility Podcast as we also have: 

Getting Pregnancy Ready: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/getting-pregnancy-ready/id1642701326

Pregnancy Loss: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/pregnancy-loss/id1608905862

Male Fertility: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/male-fertility/id1608905647

Donor Conception and Surrogacy: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/donor-conception-and-surrogacy/id1609413884

Infertility Support: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/infertility-support/id1608905639



As this is the last episode of the podcast... a little message from us


So much has gone into this podcast and so much has come of it. So now, it is with a heavy heart that we, The Fertility Podcast team, want to say a huge thank you to everyone who has tuned in over the years, we are so grateful for every one of you, it has been an incredible journey, thank you for riding along with us.

And of course a big thank you to our two amazing hosts of the pod, Natalie and Kate, who have had the courage to speak up when no one else would and shed light on a topic that is often seen as a taboo. 

So thank you for listening, it has been an honour and a privilege.

The Fertility Podcast.

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