The Eight Mindsets – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Beyond Compliance: Ethics – It's Not Meant to Make Things Easier!

“In law a man is guilty when he violates the rights of others. In ethics he is guilty if he only thinks of doing so.”   Immanuel Kant 

About the podcast:

The Eight Mindsets Podcast, hosted by Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance (Australia) and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education (USA), combines legal expertise with creative compliance, ethics and risk insights.

The podcast features conversations with organizational leaders, exploring how they navigate real-world challenges using creativity, neuroscience, and ethics and compliance to drive better performance and culture.

Our mission is to make legal and compliance topics accessible, empowering leaders to train and communicate more effectively on the issues that matter most to their organizations.

About This Episode:

In this episode, we sit down with Roderick Noordhoek, Head of the Global Ethics at Rabobank. Together, we explore the critical role of ethics in shaping sustainable business practices, distinguishing it from compliance, and navigating the complexities of global business environments.

We discuss

• The difference between ethics and compliance and why ethics reaches deeper into the heart of an organization.
• How global organizations balance universal principles with regional cultural, economic, and legal nuances.
• The challenges of integrating ethics into decision-making without compromising agility or stakeholder trust.
• Why ethics is essential in driving sustainability, even when the solutions aren’t simple.
• Insights into fostering meaningful dialogue that aligns business actions with organizational values.

What are the Eight Mindsets?

The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

Follow us https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function?

The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.

Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions.

About This Episode:

In this episode, we sit down with Pav Gill, the whistleblower from the Wirecard scandal, to explore one of the most profound shifts in compliance leadership today. Pav shares his personal journey of exposing Wirecard’s multibillion-dollar fraud, offering invaluable insights into leadership accountability and compliance empowerment.

Key insights include:

• How Wirecard's leadership failures and compliance shortcomings led to its collapse.
• The importance of creating strong, independent compliance functions that safeguard organizations.
• Pav's essential advice for legal and compliance teams: stay independent, build strong internal channels, and never compromise on ethics.

Pav’s story is a powerful reminder that when compliance is sidelined, ethical blind spots can grow—and why proactive leadership is essential for a healthy corporate culture.

  About the Eight Mindsets:

The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

Follow us on:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. Plus the recommended action items and Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.

About this episode:

"Compliance is the conscience of the people in the organisation". For anyone who has worked with or knows Hugh Bigwood, you will not be surprised by this quote from Hugh.  Hugh has been a Chief Compliance Officer, a General Counsel and a trusted adviser to Boards and Executives. His experience includes a variety of legal and compliance roles in a variety of industries from pharmaceutical and medical technology to the food industry to mining and even a stint as a pension trustee. In this episode, Nicole and Hugh chat about:

• The real role of compliance and the difference between legal and compliance  
• The future of compliance and in particular speak out hotlines
• The ROI of compliance for the business
• How to support small and medium size companies with compliance – i.e., making it accessible regardless of budget and number of employees

And in typical Hugh fashion, he also gives his own perspective and tactics for developing a successful, innovative compliance function. These include:

• The DIY of compliance – try it and see!
• The ‘love it or hate it’ test for training
• Team building and the strength of suffering together
• Why perfection is the enemy of good

About the Eight Mindsets:

These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

Follow us on:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. Plus the recommended action items and Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.

About this episode:

It’s the union of basketball and ethics! It’s the intersection of March Madness (a term now available to both genders) and corporate compliance! It’s a joint episode of two popular podcasts! It’s Ethics Madness 2022! 

Listen in as Tom Fox of the Greetings and Felicitations podcast and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindsets Podcast talk sports, talk shop, and score a veritable triple-double of practical lessons, case studies, and just plain fun.

Among the topics we cover in Ethics Madness 2022:

o  Formula 1… and procedural justice

o  Russian Figure Skaters… and organizational reputation

o  Women’s March Madness… and DEI

o  Michigan v. Wisconsin… and the culture-building power of ritual

About the Eight Mindsets:

These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

Follow us on:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

About this episode:

This week we have Kristy Grant-Hart on the show. In this Part 2 of the three part series, we focus on the compliance department. We discuss:

·  Whether the “wildly effective compliance officer” is an entrepreneur

·  Why compliance officers should study sales techniques

·  The 4 primary motivators that succeeded for Kristy in all the countries where she has worked

·  Why adult learning must begin with, “Why does this matter to the learner”

·  Why compliance officers should be leading ESG

About Kristy and how to get in touch

Kristy is founder and CEO of Spark Compliance Consulting and author of a series of books for compliance professionals, beginning with “How to Be a Wildly Effective Compliance Officer.” She has also worked as an actor, Chief Compliance Officer, and adjunct professor. She opened her own publishing company, Brentham House Publishing.

You can get in touch with and find Kristy at:

·  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kristygranthart ·  Email: kgranthart@sparkcompliance.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/KristyGrantHart

About The Eight Mindsets and your hosts Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer:

These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. Learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

To get in contact with Nicole and find out more about her work go to www.nicolerose.co or LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nicolerose2018

To get in contact with Jason and find out more about how he can support your organisation go to www.leadgood.org

If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

Follow us on:

·  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

·  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

About this episode:

This week we have Kristy Grant-Hart on the show. In this Part 1 of the three part series, Kristy focuses on her early influences. We discuss:

·  Performance as a precursor to a professional career – and Kristy’s journey from Broadway, musicals, and film

·  Being a whole human being in your work and in your organization

·  The power of being vulnerable and the willingness to be imperfect

·  How entrepreneurship is in in the blood

·  How chutzpah and being ill-prepared and worked for Kristy when starting her business

About Kristy and how to get in touch

If you are in the world of Compliance, then Kristy certainly needs no introduction. But here are some highlights for all our other listeners.

• Kristy is founder and CEO of Spark Compliance Consulting and author of a series of books for compliance professionals, beginning with “How to Be a Wildly Effective Compliance Officer.”
• She has also worked as an actor, Chief Compliance Officer, and adjunct professor. She opened her own publishing company, Brentham House Publishing.

You can get in touch with and find Kristy at:

·  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kristygranthart

·  Email: kgranthart@sparkcompliance.com ·  Twitter: https://twitter.com/KristyGrantHart

About the Eight Mindsets:

These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

Follow us on:

·  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

·  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. In this episode we bring you something different. In the spirit of imperfection being the master of done, we bring to you the pre-interview chat with Nick Gallo which was so good we published it! In this chat we discuss: 1. The Eight Mindsets - Nick interview Jason and Nic about what these are 2. Why “Compliance is about people,” and that in turn means that most everything can be tied in to a compliance discussion 3. Keeping it real - taking chances, making mistakes and getting messy  4. The power of imperfection 5. What TV dinners and top chefs have to do with compliance 6. Our unique opportunity to make our workplaces better  7. Nick’s dream of making a better place in the world for his kids and how this is obtainable by compliance and how this translates into for profit organizations. 8. The ethos mismatch in our industry - "paint a painting you are happy to sign at the bottom of" 9. What Nick learned working in private equity 10. How to demonstrate the return of investment (ROI) of compliance.  DOWNLOAD THE EBOOK OF THIS EPISODE FOR ALL THE MEMORABLE QUOTES AND LESSONS AT: https://www.eightmindsets.com/podcast-takeaways About Nick Gallo Nick Gallo is the Chief Servant and Co-CEO of Compliance Line,  a leading provider of outsourced ethics, compliance, and HR services, including hotlines, case management, screening & monitoring, and compliance training. Nick is a CPA and started out in KPMG, but don’t let that fool you – he and his brother Giovanni run ComplianceLine in their own, culture-and-people centered way. Any as many thousands of people know, Nick is also a great LinkedIn follow and communicator. So we had to talk to him! Connect with Nick on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ngallo Company Website: complianceline.com/   Email: ngallo@complianceline.com About the Eight Mindsets: These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course: https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/ If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

About this episode:

In Part 2 of the Eight Mindsets interview with Eric T Young, the Eight Mindsets dissects some of the 6 recommendations from Eric’s book, Declaration of Independence and Eric speaks about:

-  Telling his personal story when writing a book about compliance

-  Why he designed the book to be controversial and provocative

-  How he came to structure the book as he did.

-  The ‘what, how and why’ of writing his book

-  The 3 reasons firms crash and burn

-  The 6 recommendations in his book and who they are designed for

-  Why Compliance can’t be the department of no – but ‘yes if’

-  What he learned  as a young professional sharing an apartment in New York about running compliance programs

-  His theme song for his book and what has also become the compliance them of this episode.

How to get in touch with Eric

Connect with Eric on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/youngerict

About the Eight Mindsets:

These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com

Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course: https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

About this episode:

The Eight Mindsets speak with Eric T Young about:

·  His move from the corporate world to learning how to write a book.

·  Going it alone, sleeping a little later and enjoying quality time.

·  Humanising compliance.

·  HIS BOOK - Declaration of Independence and baseball.

·  What Eric looked for when interviewing people. A must listen for anyone looking to further their in-house career in Compliance. 

·  What Eric’s ‘anything is possible process’ when joining a new organisation to get people on your side quickly. 

·  Eric’s recommended book when starting a new role (other than his one of course)

·  Why a compliance officer needs the mindset of an entrepreneur

How to get in touch with Eric

Connect with Eric on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/youngerict

About the Eight Mindsets:

These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

About this episode:

In todays’ podcast we chat with Reinushini Chandrasegaram, who shares her thought leadership of embracing a holistic approach to compliance; most importantly, being and bringing yourself to the table. We discuss;

·  How to be, and remain, motivated for your work

·  The importance of ‘pause’ in your day and how this can impact your business decisions

·  The shift that’s required to make the move from the ‘safe’ corporate world to becoming a consultant and running your own business

·  How you can take a challenge and turn it into a triumph

·  The importance of changing your mindset to lead to bigger gains

·  What you need to create a great compliance culture

·  How to be a shield, not (always? Or necessarily?) a sword

·  Bonus: A handy tip from Nicole for remembering someone’s name

How to get in touch with Reinushini

·  Web | www.rc-compliance.com
Email | ask@rc-compliance.com
Tw |@RC_Compliance

Join us at the Eight Mindsets:

These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences.

·  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary resources and courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

·  Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course at https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education