Episode Description:

In this special re-release, we revisit our 2016 conversation with Father Richard Rohr, a renowned Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher celebrated for his profound insights into Christian mysticism, contemplation, and action. Father Rohr’s teachings have guided countless individuals on their spiritual journeys, encouraging a deeper understanding of faith and the interconnectedness of all things. Whether you’re hearing this dialogue for the first time or revisiting it, Father Rohr’s wisdom remains as transformative as ever.

Guest Information:

Father Richard Rohr

Father Richard Rohr is a Franciscan priest and the founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Established in 1987, the CAC serves as a hub for contemplative education and practices, aiming to equip individuals to work for positive change in the world. Father Rohr has authored numerous books, including The Universal Christ, Falling Upward, and Everything Belongs.

•Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC): https://cac.org/

•Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CenterforActionandContemplation/

•YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMkqKAtSgijU439fJUNHnkA

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If Father Rohr’s teachings resonate with you, consider exploring more of his work and supporting the Center for Action and Contemplation. The CAC offers a wealth of resources, including online courses, daily meditations, and publications aimed at fostering spiritual growth and contemplative action.

•Website: https://cac.org/

•YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMkqKAtSgijU439fJUNHnkA

Episode Description:

In this special re-release, we revisit our profound conversation with renowned theologian Walter Brueggemann. Known for his influential work on the prophetic imagination, Brueggemann challenges us to envision a world rooted in compassion, justice, and a deep understanding of the Hebrew prophets. Whether you’re hearing this dialogue for the first time or revisiting it, Brueggemann’s insights remain as timely and transformative as ever.

Musical Features:

This episode is enriched with special musical contributions from Forrest Clay and Seabird, whose evocative sounds complement the depth of our discussion.

Featured Music:

🎵 Forrest Clay

An Ohio-based singer-songwriter, Forrest Clay crafts music that delves into the human experience with authenticity and depth. His latest EP, “Recover”, is available now.

•Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

•Latest Single: “Child of War”

🎵 Seabird

Hailing from Independence, Kentucky, Seabird is an alternative rock band known for their piano-driven melodies and introspective lyrics. Their albums, including “’Til We See the Shore” and “Rocks into Rivers”, have captivated audiences with their heartfelt storytelling.

•Official Website: seabirdmusic.com

•Instagram: @seabirdmusic

•Twitter: @seabirdmusic

Stay Connected:

If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to The Deconstructionists Podcast on your preferred platform. Your support helps us continue to bring thought-provoking conversations to the forefront.

Follow us on social media:

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For updates on our upcoming limited series investigative podcast, “Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power”, be sure to follow us on social media. This new series will explore the complexities of faith movements and the dynamics of power within them.

Support the Artists:

Music plays a vital role in enriching our episodes. If you resonated with the tracks featured in this episode, consider supporting Forrest Clay and Seabird by streaming their music, following them on social media, and attending their live performances.

Guest/Bio:

This week I welcome Dr. Thomas Kazen! Dr. Kazen is professor and research chair of biblical studies at Stockholm School of Theology, University College Stockholm. He has authored numerous books and articles in English and Swedish, including Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity and Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition. 

Guest (Selected) Works: Moral Infringement and Repair in Antiquity; Impurity and Purification in Early Judaism and the Jesus Tradition; Dirt, Shame, Status: Perspectives on Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible and the Ancient World.

Guest Links:

https://thomaskazen.se/

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week I not one, but two guests! This week we welcome the Rev. Dr. Brad Jersak AND Wm. Paul Young! 

Brad holds a PhD in Theology and Religious Studies from Bangor University (Wales) and is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He serves as a reader and monastery preacher at All Saints of North America Orthodox Monastery. 

Wm. Paul Young is the best-selling author of the book The Shack, Cross Roads, and Eve, and the non-fiction book Lies We Believe About God. 

Guest (Select) Publications: 

Bradley Jersak: A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel; Her Gates Will Never Be Shut: Hell, Hope, and the New Jerusalem; A More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful Faith; IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb; and The Pastor: A Crisis 

Paul Young: The Shack; Cross Roads; Eve: A Novel; and The Pastor: A Crisis 

Guest Links:

Brad Jersak: 

www.bradjersak.com 

Twitter: @bradjersak

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/BradJersak/ 

YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/BradJersakauthor

Paul Young: 

www.wmpaulyoung.com 

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/TheShackOfficial

Instagram: @wmpaulyoung 

Special guest music on this episode provide by: Morningsiders 

Musical Guest/Music Links:

www.morningsidersmusic.com 

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Morningsiders 

Instagram: @morningsiders 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were the singles, “Honey Hold Me” and “How Good It Is” and “How We Are” from the album Pollen. 

You can find Morningsiders music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/Bio:

This week I welcome the Rev. Dr. Miguel A. De La Torre! He is a professor, author, scholar, and activist who is currently Professor of Social Ethics and Latinx Studies at the Iliff School of Theology in Denver, Colorado. He has served as the elected 2012 President of the Society of Christian Ethics and served as the Executive Officer for the Society of Race, Ethnicity and Religion (2012-2017). In 2020 the American Academy of Religion bestowed upon him the Excellence in Teaching Award. Dr. De La Torre is a recognized international Fullbright Scholar who has taught courses all over the world. 

Guest (Select) Publications: 

Reading the Bible from the Margins; Trails of Hope and Terror: Testimonies on Immigration; Liberation Theologies for Arm Chair Theologians; The Politics of Jesus: Toward a Hispanic Political Theology; The Immigration Crisis: Toward an Ethics of Place; Burying White Privilege: Resurrecting A Badass Christianity; and Decolonizing Christianity: Becoming Badass Believers. 

Guest Links:

www.drmigueldelatorre.com 

Twitter: @DrDeLaTorre 

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/miguel.delatorre.1238

Special guest music on this episode provide by: Sam Burchfield 

Musical Guest/Music Links:

www.samburchfield.com 

Twitter:@samburchfield 

Facebook: @samburchfieldmusic 

Instagram: @samburchfield 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were “Waking Up, Hold My Hand, & Graveyard Flower” from the album, Graveyard Flower & the brand new single, “Sands of Old Cities.” 

You can find Sam’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/Bio:

This week I welcome the amazing Bunmi Latidan. We talk all about her amazing new book on prayer and how we all struggle with it. 

Bunmi is a writer living in Quebec, Canada by way of northern California. Her writings include The Honest Toddler and Confessions of a Domestic failure and poetry such as Dear Mother and Dear God: Honest Prayers to a God Who Listens. 

Guest Publications: 

The Honest Toddler: A Child’s Guide To Parenting; Toddlers Are A**holes: It’s Not Your Fault; The Big Bed; Confessions of a domestic failure; Dear Mother: Poems on Motherhood; & Dear God: Honest Prayers to a God Who Listens. 

Guest Links:

www.bunmiladitan.com 

Instagram: @honesttoddler 

Facebook: @BunmiKLaditan 

Special guest music on this episode provide by: James Levy 

Musical Guest/Music Links:

https://orcd.co/jameslevyNYC?fbclid=IwAR2rt5_njPO_huomokxd343RoSE5yd51hr1McwPYNOhxBWz32HvD2b5fpA4

Twitter: @Reputante 

Facebook: @Reputante 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were “Heart and Dreams” & “Soldier” from the album, Soldier. “Songs of Love” & “What Do I Know?” from the album, Somebody. 

You can find James Levy’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/Bio:

This week I welcome the Rev. Dr. Sarah Griffith Lund. Sarah majored in religious studies in college at Trinity University, graduated with a Master of Divinity degree at Princeton Theological Seminary, and also received a Master of Social Work degree at Rutger’s University.  Ministry and Social Work blend together are her two passions of loving God and loving her neighbors. She was ordained into Christian ministry by the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in 2002 and began serving as a local church pastor in 2003. She's served large and small congregations in Brooklyn, Minneapolis, and New Smyrna Beach, Florida, and Indianapolis, Indiana.  

In 2011, she earned her Doctor of Ministry degree from McCormick Theological Seminary with a focus on revitalizing the local church. Her thesis is entitled, “The Challenges to Building a Beloved Community on Facebook.” She served the church as a Regional Minister, providing support and guidance to dozens of congregations in the United Church of Christ throughout central and western Florida. From 2014-2018, she served as Vice President for Seminary Advancement at Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis. 

In 2018, she was called to serve as the first woman Senior Pastor at First Congregational United Church of Christ of Indianapolis. In addition, she serves on the National Staff of The United Church of Christ as the Minister for Disabilities and Mental Health Justice.

Guest Publications: 

Blessed Are the Crazy: Breaking the Silence about Mental Illness, Family and Church; Blessed Union: Breaking the Silence about Mental Illness and Marriage. 

Guest Links:

www.sarahgriffithlund.com 

Twitter: @revlund 

Facebook: @sarahgriffithlund 

Special guest music on this episode provide by: Mike Donehey 

Musical Guest/Music Links:

www.mikedonehey.com 

Twitter: @mikedonehey 

Facebook: @mikedonehey

Instagram: @mikedonehey 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were “What You Mean to Say, You Belong Here, & Better” from the EP, “Work of Art” and “In The Middle” from the brand new EP, A Father & Two Sons 

You can find Mike’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/Bio:

This week I welcome back Dan Koch and this time he brings along his friend Sarey Martin Concepcion. They came on the podcast to address a topic we haven’t discussed in great depth since literally episode #1. We talk all about the term deconstruction, what we mean when we use the term, and how each of our journeys began. Dan and Sarey also created an amazing library of resources for folks going through a spiritual deconstruction at www.soyouredeconstructing.com 

So You’re Deconstructing was created by Sarey Martin Concepcion and Dan Koch. Dan hosts the You Have Permission podcast and is currently a doctoral student in psychology at Northwest University in Washington State. Sarey is a writer and producer, who holds a Masters in Theology from Fuller Seminary, and currently resides in Portland, OR. She is also Director of Communications for Blueprint 1543, which facilitates grant projects integrating theology and the sciences.

Guest Links:

www.dankochwords.com 

www.dankoch.net 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission 

www.soyouredeconstructing.com 

Twitter: @dankoch & @sarey 

Instagram: @dankoch & @doctormonalisa 

Special guest music on this episode provide by: Forrest Clay 

Musical Guest/Music Links:

Twitter: @clay_k

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/claykirchenbauer 

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were the brand new single, “Recover” & the exclusive world debut of the forthcoming single, “Does God”

You can find Forrest Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/Bio: This week I welcome back one of our favorite guests - Sarah Bessey! Sarah Bessey is the author of the best-selling and critically acclaimed books Jesus Feminist (2013); Out of Sorts: Making Peace with an Evolving Faith (2015); and Miracles and Other Reasonable Things (2019). 

Her new collaborative book, A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal is now available everywhere books are sold.d.

Along with her friends, the late Rachel Held Evans and Jim Chaffee, Sarah co-founded Evolving Faith. She now co-leads the community and conference alongside Jeff Chu. Sarah is also the co-host of The Evolving Faith Podcast which debuted at the top of the charts for Religion and Spirituality Podcasts and has been downloaded by hundreds of thousands of listeners worldwide.

Sarah is a sought-after speaker at churches, conferences, and universities around the world. Sarah writes the weekly newsletter Field Notes with exclusive essays, devotional series, conversations, and more. You can sign up for Field Notes here. 

She also serves as chair of the board for Heartline Ministries in Haiti. Based in Port au Prince, Heartline is committed to empowering Haitian families through complete maternal and infant health care, education, vocational training, and economic development.

Sarah contributed to the NIV Bible for Women: Fresh Insights for Thriving in Today’s World; Mother Letters: Sharing the Laughter, Joy, Struggles, and Hope; Soul Bare: Stories of Redemption; and What a Woman is Worth.

Her writing has appeared in The Washington Post, The Huffington Post, The High Calling, Conversations Journal, ChurchLeaders.com, CT Women: Christianity Today’s Blog for Women, Today’s Christian Woman, and she has commented on religion, feminism, and faith deconstruction for The Atlantic, The Christian Post, Christianity Today, The National Post, and The Washington Post among others. She was an award-winning blogger back in the glory days of blogging. Some of the favourites are still available as essays on this website. Sarah is also the author of two ebooks - My Practices of Mothering and Waiting, Accepting, Journeying, Birthing: An Advent Devotional - both available for digital download here.

Guest (Select) Published Works: Waiting, Accepting, Journeying, Birthing; My Practices of Mothering; Jesus Feminist: An Invitation to Revisit The Bible’s View of Women; Out of Sorts: Making Peace with an Evolving Faith; Miracles And Other Reasonable Things: A Story of Unlearning and Relearning God; A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal. 

Guest Website/Social Media:

www.sarahbessey.com 

Twitter: @sarahbessey 

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/sarah.styles.bessey 

Instagram: @sarahbessey 

Special guest music on this episode provided by: 

The Wind & The Wave

www.thewindandthewave.com 

Twitter: @thewindthewave

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/thewindandthewave/ 

Instagram: @thewindthewave 

Enjoy the songs? Songs featured on this episode were: “Happiness Is Not A Place” from the album, Happiness Is Not A Place & “Rescue Me, Does God Love the Unlucky?” & “Father” from the E.P. Rescue Me. 

The Wind & The Wave’s music is available on iTunes, Apple Music, Amazon, YouTube, Spotify, and anywhere good music is found. 

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com 

Go there to read our blog, grab a tee shirt, snag a pint glass or mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family.

The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson. This episode was mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat. located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on facebook and Twitter or go to their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety

Twitter: @napsrecording 

Website by Ryan Battles

All Photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

Guest Info/Bio: This week I welcome back our dear friend Peter Rollins to talk all about his annual Atheism for Lent course. To sign up for Atheism for Lent go to Pete’s website: www.peterrollins.com for tickets.

Pete is an author, philosopher, storyteller, producer, and public speaker who has gained an international reputation for overturning traditional notions of religion and forming “churches” that preach the Good News that we can’t be satisfied, that life is difficult, and that we don’t know the secret. 

Challenging the idea that faith concerns questions relating to belief; attacking the distinction between the sacred and the secular. It critiques theism and it sets aside questions regarding life after death to explore the possibility of life before death. 

Peter gained his higher education from Queens University, Belfast where he earned degrees (with distinction) in Scholastic Philosophy (BA Hons), Political Theory and Social Criticism (MA) and Post-Structural thought (PhD). 

Guest (Select) Published Works: Insurrection, The Idolatry of God, The Divine Magician. 

Guest Website/Social Media:

www.peterrollins.com 

Twitter: @peterrollins 

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/orthodoxheretic 

Instagram: @peter_rollins 

Special guest music on this episode provided by: 

The Beach 

Twitter: @thebeachmusic 

Facebook: @thebeachmusic 

Instagram: @thebeachmusic 

Enjoy the songs? Songs featured on this episode were: “U.R. Beautiful, Toxic Love, Our Favourite Song, & Glass Houses” from the U.R. Beautiful EP. 

The Beach’s music is available on iTunes, Apple Music, Amazon, YouTube, Spotify, and anywhere good music is found. 

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com 

Go there to read our blog, grab a tee shirt, snag a pint glass or mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family.

The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson. This episode was mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat. located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on facebook and Twitter or go to their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety

Twitter: @napsrecording 

Website by Ryan Battles

All Photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

Guest Info/Bio: This week we speak with Stina Kielsmeier-Cook about what it’s like being in an interfaith relationship. What does it look like when the other person in your relationship has a different faith or no faith at all? 

Stina is a writer from the cold north where she raises kids, maxes out her library card, and is usually late for church. A former housing advocate for refugees, Stina loves to talk about public policy, parenting, and her neighborhood in Minneapolis. She works as Director of Communications at the Collegeville Institute, where she is also the managing editor of Bearings Online. Stina has a graduate diploma in Forced Migration and Refugee Studies from the American University in Cairo, and a B.A. in Political Science from Wheaten College. 

Guest Published Works: Blessed Are the Nones: Mixed-Faith Marriage and My Search for Spiritual Community. 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.stinakc.com 

Twitter: @stina_kc 

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/stina.kc/ 

Instagram: @stina.kc 

Special guest music on this episode provided by: Forrest Clay 

Twitter: @clay_k 

Facebook: @ https://m.facebook.com/ClayKirchenbauer?tsid=0.15432717790991135&source=result 

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Enjoy the songs? Songs featured on this episode were: the brand new single, “Recover” and the singles “Love a Little More” and “Counting the Stars”

Forrest Clay’s music is available on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, and anywhere good music is found. 

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com 

Go there to read our blog, grab a tee shirt, snag a pint glass or mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family.

The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson. This episode was mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat. located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on facebook and Twitter or go to their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety

Twitter: @napsrecording 

Website by Ryan Battles

All Photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

Guest Info/Bio: This week we speak with Dr. Richard Beck. Richard Beck is Professor and Chair of the Department of Psychology at Abilene Christian University. He is the author of Unclean, The Authenticity of Faith, The Slavery of Death, Reviving Old Scratch, and The Gospel According to Johnny Cash. Richard's published research also covers topics as diverse as the psychology of profanity to why Christian bookstore art is so bad. Richard leads a bible study each week for fifty inmates at the maximum security French-Robertson unit, and any given week Richard drives the van, preaches or washes dishes at Freedom Fellowship, a church feeding and reaching out to those on the margins. Finally, on his popular blog Experimental Theology Richard will spend enormous amounts of time writing about the theology of Johnny Cash, the demonology of Scooby-Doo or his latest bible class on monsters. 

Guest Published Works: The Authenticity of Faith; The Slavery of Death; Unclean; Reviving Old Scratch: Demons and the Devil for Doubters and the Disenchanted; and Trains, Jesus, and Murder: The Gospel According to Johnny Cash.

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.experimentaltheology.blogspot.com 

Special guest music on this episode provided by: Tall Heights

www.tallheights.com 

Twitter: @tallheights 

Facebook: @tallheights 

Instagram: @tallheights

Enjoy the songs? Songs featured on this episode were: “Spirit Cold” from the album, Neptune; “Oslo” from the album, Pretty Colors For Your Actions; and the singles - “Keeps Me Light” & “The Deep End.” 

Tall Heights’ music is available on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, and anywhere good music is found. 

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com 

Go there to read our blog, grab a tee shirt, snag a pint glass or mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family.

The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson. This episode was mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat. located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on facebook and Twitter or go to their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety

Twitter: @napsrecording 

Website by Ryan Battles

All Photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

Guest Info/Bio:

This week I welcome Justin Toppins is a writer and filmmaker who recently released his book, “The Outcast Daughter: What I learned about hope and faith from conversations with sex trafficking survivors and his accompanying documentary film, “Irreclaimable”. For more than a year, Justin set out to learn about the dark world of sex trafficking. Along the way he spoke with victims, sex workers, and even law enforcement to separate fact from myth. 

Guest Links: 

http://covenantbooks.com/books/?book=the-outcast-daughter

https://www.amazon.com/Irreclaimable-Samantha-Hernandez/dp/B07QDPYL2J/ref=nodl_

Musical Guest/Music Links:

www.remedydrive.com 

Twitter: @remedydrive 

Instagram: @remedydrive 

Facebook: @remedydrive

https://pages.theexodusroad.com 

Twitter: @theexodusroad 

Instagram: @theexodusroad 

Facebook: @theexodusroad 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were: “Disappear, You Got Fire (ft. Rachel Lampa McCarthy), & Warlike” from the album, The North Star. “Guide You Home” from the album, Hope’s Not Giving Up. 

You can find Remedy Drive’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

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Guest/Bio:

This week I welcome back Dr. John Dominic Crossan for part 2 of our conversation on Paul. Dr. Crossan is considered one of the foremost New Testament scholars today. He's an Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of the Jesus Seminar, and emeritus professor at DePaul University. His research has focused on the historical Jesus, the theology of non-canonical Gospels, and the application of postmodern hermeneutical approaches to the Bible. 

Guest (Selected) Works: The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant; The Essential Jesus: Original Sayings and Earliest Images; How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation; esurrecting Easter: How the West Lost and the East Kept the Original Easter Vision; Render unto Caesar: The Struggle over Christ and Culture in the New Testament; Paul the Pharisee: A Vision Beyond the Violence of Civilization.

Guest Links:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johndominic.crossan/

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week I welcome David Zach. David Zach is the lead singer and songwriter for the rock band Remedy Drive as well as an advocate in the fight against human trafficking. The band has recorded two concept albums to shine a light on slavery and to celebrate the modern day abolition. The band's community and fan base has contributed around $350,000 in donations and in-kind donations to the counter trafficking organization The Exodus Road. 

When the band is not on tour David volunteers with The Exodus Road as an undercover operative. He spends time in brothels and in the red-light districts where underage girls and boys are sold by the hour. His role while undercover is to identify instances of minors being sold, and to capture actionable evidence of their trafficking using covert gear, some of which is funded by the Remedy Drive community and fan base. 

Upon returning from deployment overseas David uses the band and his platform to advocate for the victims of human trafficking, to shine a light on slavery and to speak about his time overseas with the goal of recruiting and funding the fight which is the modern underground railroad. He has spoken at many of the major festivals during talkback sessions, main stages and seminar tents. He also speaks at colleges, conferences, high school campuses and churches. David's message centers upon a core belief of both Remedy Drive and The Exodus Road - "Justice is in the hands of the ordinary".  

To hear about raids/rescues and everything going on the front lines text “remedy” to 51555. 

Guest/Music Links:

www.remedydrive.com 

Twitter: @remedydrive 

Instagram: @remedydrive 

Facebook: @remedydrive

https://pages.theexodusroad.com 

Twitter: @theexodusroad 

Instagram: @theexodusroad 

Facebook: @theexodusroad 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were: “Sunlight on Her Face” from the album, The North Star. “Commodity, Under the Starlight, and Take Cover” from the album, Commodity. 

You can find Remedy Drive’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

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Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/Bio:

This week I welcome back comedian Kevin James Doyle! Kevin just released his first comedy special, The 30 Year Old Virgin on all major platforms - iTunes, Google Play, Amazon Prime, Spectrum, Comcast, Apple TV, Dish, DirectTV, Vimeo, YouTube, etc. The audio album is available on Sirius XM, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, and more. We talk about Kevin’s religious upbringing and how that played a major role in the stories that make up his hilarious special. 

Kevin is a stand-up comedian, actor, and writer based in New York City. Kevin wrote and performed in the off Broadway show, How to Be a New Yorker that ran for 415 performances. Kevin also has performed his shows The 30 Year Old Virgin and Loud Blond Bald Kid at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Kevin also co-hosts the podcast, The Bradshaw Boys where 3 guys watch Sex and the City for the first time and discuss. 

Guest Links:

www.kevinjamesdoyle.com 

Twitter: @kevinjamesdoyle 

Instagram: @kevinjamesdoyle 

Facebook: @kevinjamesdoyle 

Special Music By: 

AJR

www.ajrbrothers.com 

Instagram: @ajrbrothers

Twitter: @ajrbrothers 

Facebook: @ajrbrothers 

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were: “Karma; Wow, I’m Not Crazy; and Dear Winter” from the album, Neotheater and the songs, “Role Models & Pretender (Acoustic)” from the album, The Click (Deluxe Edition) 

You can find AJR’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

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Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

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Guest Info/BIo:

This week I have a fascinating conversation with Dan Koch. Dan got his start in professional songwriting in 2002 with his band Sherwood. They released three full albums and a handful of shorter EPs, toured the US, Europe & Japan, and generally had a great time. As that season of life ended, he settled in Seattle and began transitioning into writing music for film & TV. He’s been fortunate to work with some great people, and has landed some 80+ national TV & radio spots in about 8 years. Dan is also host of the You Have Permission, Depolarize!, and Reconstruct podcasts.

Guest Links:

https://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html

www.dankoch.net 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?mt=2

Twitter: @dankoch 

Instagram: @dancoke

Special Music By: 

Acceptance 

www.acceptanceband.com 

Instagram: @acceptanceband

Twitter: @acceptanceband

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/acceptanceband

YouTube: https://m.youtube.com/c/acceptanceband

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were: “Cold Air, Midnight, Bend the Light, & Son of the City” from the brand new album, Wild, Free. 

You can find Acceptance music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/BIo:

This week I have a fascinating conversation with Dr. David Bentley Hart on his new book That All Shall Be Saved: Heaven, Hell, and Universal Salvation. Dr. Hart has held positions at numerous universities including St. Louis University, University of Virginia, Duke University, and Providence College. His specialities are philosophical theology, systematics, patristics, classical and continental philosophy, and Asian religion. Dr. Hart has published numerous books and over 450 articles in such scholarly journals as Modern Theology, The Scottish Journal of Theology, and Pro Ecclesia, as well as in such trade publications as The Times Literary Supplement, The Wall Street Journal, First Things, and Commonweal. In 2011 he was awarded the Michael Ramsey Prize of the Church of England. 

(Select) Guest Publications: 

Atheist Delusions: The Christian Revolution and Its Fashionable Enemies; The Hidden and the Manifest: Essays in Theology and Metaphysics; The Story of Christianity: A History of 2000 Years of The Christian Faith; The Experience of God: Being, Consciousness, Bliss; The New Testament: A Translation; and That All Shall Be Saved: Heaven, Hell, and Universal Salvation. 

Guest Links:

https://www.amazon.com/David-Bentley-Hart/e/B001JRTRC0%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

Special Music By: 

Dead Horses 

www.deadhorses.net 

Instagram: @deadhorseswi

Twitter: @deadhorseswi

Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/deadhorseswi

Enjoy the music?

Songs heard on this episode were: “Turntable” from the album My Mother the Moon; “Lay me Down” from the album Space and Time; and “All I Ever Wanted” & “Mighty Storm” from the EP Birds. 

You can find Dead Horses music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

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Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Guest Info/BIo: This week I have a long overdue conversation with Shane Claiborne. Shane is a best-selling author, renowned activist, sought-after speaker, and self-proclaimed “recovering sinner.” Shane writes and speaks around the world about peacemaking, social justice, and Jesus, and is the author of several books including “The Irresistible Revolution,” “Jesus for President,” and his newest book “Executing Grace.” He is the visionary leader of The Simple Way in Philadelphia and co-director of Red Letter Christians. His work has been featured in Fox News, Esquire, SPIN, TIME, the Wall Street Journal, NPR, and CNN. (Select) Guest Publications: The Irresistible Revolution; Jesus for President; Common Prayer: A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals; Beating Guns: Hope for People Who are Weary of Violence; and Red Letter Revolution: What if Jesus Really Meant What He Said? Guest Links: www.shaneclaiborne.com www.redletterchristians.org Twitter: @ShaneClaiborne Special Music By: The Collection www.thecollectionband.com Instagram: @collectionband Twitter: @thecollectionNC Facebook: @thecollectionband BandCamp: www.thecollection.bandcamp.com Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Beautiful Life” from the album, Entropy; “Sing of the Moon” from the album, Listen to the River; “The Middle of Me” and “Heartache” from the EP, I Love You, and I Think I Like You Too. You can find The Collections music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/BIo: This week I have a really fun conversation with Jon Steingard. Jon is a Canadian musician who is the lead vocalist/guitarist of the band Hawk Nelson. Jon currently works as a director and filmmaker. Guest Links: www.steingardcreative.com Twitter: @jonsteingard Instagram: @jonsteingard Facebook: @jonsteingard Special Music By: Hawk Nelson www.hawknelson.com Instagram: @hawknelson Twitter: @hawknelson Facebook: @Hawknelson Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Drops in the Ocean” from the album, Diamonds; “No Such Thing, Crooked Lines, and Never Let You Down” from the album, Miracles You can find Hawk Nelson’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Bio: Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author, and he has written or edited more than twenty books. Oord has won the Outstanding Faculty Award twelve times as professor of Northwest Nazarene University, Nampa, Idaho. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, relational theology, science and religion, and Wesleyan/Holiness/Church of the Nazarene thought. (Select) Guest Publications: The Nature of Love: A Theology; The Uncontrolling Love of God: An Open and Relational Account of Providence; God Can't: How to Believe in God and Love After Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils; and God Can't Q&A. Guest Links: www.thomasjayoord.com Twitter: @thomasjayoord Special Guest Music: George Ogilvie www.george-ogilvie.com Twitter: @george_ogilvie Facebook: @george_ogilvie Enjoy the songs? Songs heard throughout the episode were: "Surveillance" from the EP, Nowhere; "Grave" from the album, White Out; the single, "Foreign Hands"; and the single, "In Only a Day (Alternate)" Go support George by grabbing his tunes on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab a tee shirt, snag a pint glass or mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family. The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson. This episode was mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat. located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on facebook and Twitter or go to their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Website by Ryan Battles All Photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

Guest/Bio: This week we bring back one of our favorite guests, Dr. Drew Hart. Drew G. I. Hart is a professor in theology, an author, and an activist with ten years of pastoral experience. His undergraduate work was in biblical studies at Messiah College, he received his Masters of Divinity degree with an urban concentration at Biblical Seminary, and he recently defended his dissertation in the field of theology and ethics at Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia. Currently he is a part-time professor for several PA seminaries and schools but in the Fall of 2016 he begins teaching full-time as an assistant professor in theology at Messiah College. Drew spent most of his young adult years leading and mentoring black and brown youth as a pastor, working for an inner city after-school program, and working closely with Philadelphia based nonprofits. Today, along with teaching theology, Drew is currently passionate about partnering with community groups and churches to facilitate anti-racism training and seminars, as well as delivering lectures, talks, and sermons. Regularly speaking at churches, conferences, and colleges, Drew brings together his pastoral experience with his academic training to challenge the Church on a variety of topics. He has been particularly invested in conversations on white supremacy and racism and their entanglements with western Christianity, but Drew also speaks and writes about Christian discipleship, western Christendom, Christian history, liberation and oppression, peacemaking and nonviolent resistance, urban ministry, social media, etc. Drew has a Christian Century hosted blog entitled ‘Taking Jesus Seriously’, while also writing occasionally for The Mennonite as well. Guest Published Works: “Trouble I’ve Seen: Changing The Way The Church Views Racism” & the forthcoming book, “Who Will Be A Witness: Igniting Activism For God’s Justice, Love, and Deliverance.” Guest links: https://www.drewihart.com https://www.christiancentury.org/blogs/taking-jesus-seriously https://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=TakingJesusSeriously&loc=en_US Twitter: @DruHart Facebook: @Drew.GI.Hart For other episodes on race/racism: Ep. 35 w/Dr. Drew Hart, Ep. 78 w/Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, and Ep. 103 w/Drew Brown. Special Music Provided by: Firewoodisland www.firewoodisland.com Twitter: @firewoodisland Instagram: @firewoodisland Facebook: @firewoodisland Like the songs on this episode? Songs used on the podcast were: “Storm, Mutually, & One with the Mountain” from the album, Firewoodisland and “Soldier” from the album, Chaos Is the State of Heart. You can find Firewoodisland’s tunes on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, SoundCloud, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest/Bio: This week we welcome our friend Drew Brown to discuss race, racism, and the current movement to create lasting change within the United States and North American at-large. Drew is a Canadian award winning singer-songwriter, producer, and activist. Drew performs and works with artists all over North America. As a way to help other artists and musicians he also started the Personic Creative Collective. It serves as a hub for creatives to grow, learn, and be resourced. It offers production, photography, and a community/support system to assist in launching their projects. Guest Links: www.drewbrownmusic.com Twitter: @drewbrownmusic Facebook: @drewbrownmusic Instagram: @drewbrownmusic Suggested Reading: How to be an Antiracist by Ibram X Kendi The Skin We’re In by Desmond Cole White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo I’m Still Here by Austin Channing Brown The Trouble I’ve Seen by Dr. Drew Hart Tears We Cannot Stop by Michael Eric Dyson The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin Special Music: Hymns For the Architect (Drew Brown) Songs used on the podcast were: “Rising Rain” from the album, Solace From Solitude; “The Wilderness (The Long Lament, Pt. 1)” from the album, The Bright Sadness; and the singles: “You May Find a Light” and “Dust/Mercy.” You can find Hymns For The Architect & Drew Brown’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, Apple Music, Spotify, iTunes, or anywhere good music can be found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest/Bio:

This week I welcome back Dr. John Dominic Crossan! Dr. Crossan is considered one of the foremost New Testament scholars today. He's an Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of the Jesus Seminar, and emeritus professor at DePaul University. His research has focused on the historical Jesus, the theology of non-canonical Gospels, and the application of postmodern hermeneutical approaches to the Bible. 

Guest (Selected) Works: The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant; The Essential Jesus: Original Sayings and Earliest Images; How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation; esurrecting Easter: How the West Lost and the East Kept the Original Easter Vision; Render unto Caesar: The Struggle over Christ and Culture in the New Testament; Paul the Pharisee: A Vision Beyond the Violence of Civilization.

Guest Links:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johndominic.crossan/

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.org Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionsts

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

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Guest/Bio: This week we have a long overdue guest - Jonathan Martin! We talk about anxiety and hope in the time of Pandemic amongst other topics. Jonathan is a pastor at The Table and author of two critically acclaimed books, Prototype and How to Survive a Shipwreck, with a third book coming out in the summer of 2020. He holds degrees from Gardner-Webb University, Penecostal Theological Seminary (MA) and Duke University (ThM). Jonathan’s work and/or words have been featured in places like the New York Times, The Atlantic, NPR, Newsweek, Vox, Sojourners, The Huffington Post, and Relevant Magazine, and he has published in scholarly journals, like The Journal of Penecostal Theology. Guest (selected) Published Works: Prototype: What Happens When You Discover You’re More Like Jesus Than You Think? and How to Survive a Shipwreck: Help Is on the Way and Love is Already Here. Guest Links: www.jonathanmartinwords.com Twitter: @theboyonthebike Podcast: Listen to The Zeitcast with Jonathan Martin on Apple Podcasts. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-zeitcast-with-jonathan-martin/id1474849938 Special Music by: Half Light Music Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/halflightmusic/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/halflightmusiclive Like the songs on this episode? Songs used on the podcast were: “Find My Way” off the album, Partial Illumination and the singles: “Hands Up, Save Yer Money, and Truth Tears Apart (Soul Surrender)” You can find Half Light Music’s tunes on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, BandCamp, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest/Bio: This week we welcome the Rev. Dr. Bruce Epperly. We talk about Bruce’s latest book, “Faith in a time of Pandemic” and how we can find hope in a time of uncertainty. Bruce is a nationally known pastor, educator, and author. He has served as a congregational pastor, university chaplain, professor, and seminary administrator. He is the author of over 50 books on practical theology, ministry, and spirituality, including the award-winning “Tending to the Holy: The Practice of the Presence of God in Ministry.” Bruce regularly writes lectionary commentaries for www.patheos.com and www.processandfaith.org. Bruce received his B.A. in Philosophy from San Jose State University and M.A. an Ph.D. in Philosophy of Religion and Theology at Claremont Graduate School. Guest (Selected) Works: The Mystic in You: Discovering a God-filled World; Process Theology: A Guide for the Perplexed; Piglet’s Process: Process Theology for All God’s Children; Faith in a Time of Pandemic Guest Links: www.southcongregationalchurch-centerville.org Special Music: Nicholas Rowe www.nicholasrowemusic.com http://nicholasrowe.bandcamp.com Twitter: @_NicholasRowe_ Facebook: www.facebook.com/nicholasrowemusic Instagram: @_nicholasrowe_ Enjoy the music? Songs used on the podcast were: “I Have Five Things To Say, Promises I Couldn’t Keep, Naked Trees Blowing Wind, and Lake Michigan” off of the soon to be released E.P. Five Things You can find Nick’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, BandCamp, or anywhere good music can be found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/BIo: We’re back! This episode should have been out a couple of weeks ago but despite sheltering in place, working from home, having all of my groceries delivered, and only having contact with my ex-wife and daughter - I (John) still managed to get Covid. Fortunately I was able to recover at home and didn’t need to go to the hospital, but it took me out of commission for a few weeks. Be careful out there! Anyway, here is part 2 of the Divorce Series. This episode means a lot to me because I was able to talk to two of my friends about their first-hand experiences with divorce. The first half of this episode is a conversation with Chelsea Meyer who just got remarried recently and is now a clinical mental health counselor. The second half of the episode is with Ryan Wilkins the co-owner/co-founder of Olentangy River Brewing and the Senior Director, Communications & Facilities at the Ronald McDonald House. I pray that for those of you who need it that this is helpful. Special Music By: Ryan Wilkins Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Your Grace Outshines My Faults” & “Steady Ground” from the album, Steady Ground & “Love Will Overcome” from the album, These Three Remain. You can find Ryan’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Thanks for joining us for our special Sunday Sermon Series. This is the second in a series of sermons we recorded a few years ago that would thought we’d share now as we all try to navigate through the age of the Corona Virus. This week’s selection is a sermon Adam preached several years ago at LIFE Church in Bexley, Ohio. It’s one of my favorites and I know that you’ll love it too. We hope you’re all staying safe out there. All the love from us to all of you. Theme music by Clay Kirchenbauer Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/BIo: This week we have the amazing Dr. Thema on the show to talk about how to navigate through divorce. Dr. Thema Bryant-Davis is a licensed psychologist, ordained minister, and sacred artist who has worked nationally and globally to provide relief and empowerment to marginalized persons. Dr. Thema, a professor at Pepperdine University, is a past president of the Society for the Psychology of Women. Her contributions to psychological research, policy, and practice have been honored by national and regional psychological associations. Dr. Thema earned her doctorate from Duke University, completed her post-doctoral training at Harvard Medical Center, and is a past American Psychological Association representative to the United Nations. She has served as a mental health media consultant for numerous print, radio, and television media outlets, including but not limited to the Huffington Post, NPR, CBS, Oxygen, CNN, BET, TV One, Lifetime, and We TV. Guest Links: Twitter: @drthema Instagram: @drthema Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/pg/ThemaBryantDavis/about/ Listen to the Homecoming Podcast here: https://linktr.ee/dr.thema Special Music By: Ed Prosek www.edprosek.com Twitter: @edprosek Instagram: @edprosek Facebook: @edprosekmusic Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “The Mountain, Wisdom, So Beautiful, & Killing Me” You can find Ed’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is sold! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Thanks for joining us for our special Sunday Sermon Series. This is the first of a series of sermons we recorded a few years ago that would thought we’d share now as we all try to navigate through the age of the Corona Virus. We hope you’re all staying safe out there. All the love from us to all of you. Theme music by Clay Kirchenbauer Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

GUEST INFO/BIO: This week’s guest is our good friend Dr. Tad DeLay. Tad came back on the show to discuss a very prominent subsection of Christian Evangelicalism - white evangelicals and his new book that discusses what makes them tick. Tad is interested in the intersections of continental philosophy, theology, psychoanalysis, critical theory, and politics. He also holds a Ph.D. in Religion as well as an M.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in Theology, and a B.A. in Psychology. He lives, writes, and teaches in Denver, and aims to make theory public. (SELECT) GUEST PUBLICATIONS: The Cynic and the Fool: The Unconscious in Theology & Politics, God is Unconscious: Psychoanalysis & Theology, and Against: What Does the White Evangelical Want? GUEST LINKS/SOCIAL MEDIA: www.taddelay.com Facebook: @taddelayauthor Twitter: @taddelay SPECIAL GUEST MUSIC: https://fashionweekmusic.bandcamp.com Facebook: @fashionweekmusic Twitter: @fashionweek_CMH Instagram: @fashionweek_CMH Enjoy the songs? Songs heard throughout the episode were: “Gaslight, Golden Rage, and Dark of the Cinema” from the EP Mood and the single, “Tell me Something.” Go forth and find their music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, BandCamp, YouTube, and anywhere good music is found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

GUEST INFO/BIO: This week’s guest is the Rev. Dr. Robin Meyers. Dr. Meyers is a minister, peace activist, philosophy professor, and author. He has been a syndicated columnist and an award-winning commentator for National Public Radio and the Senior Minister of the Mayflower Congregational United Church of Christ in Oklahoma City since 1985. He is Distinguished professor of Social Justice in the Philosophy department at Oklahoma City University, where he has taught since 1991. (SELECT) GUEST PUBLICATIONS: “Saving Jesus From the Church: How To Stop Worshipping Christ and Start Following Jesus; The Underground Church: Reclaiming the Subversive Way of Jesus; Spiritual Defiance: Building a Beloved Community of Resistance; and Saving God from Religion: A Minister’s Search for Faith in a Skeptical Age.” GUEST LINKS/SOCIAL MEDIA: www.mayflowerucc.org SPECIAL GUEST MUSIC: www.attaboyonline.com Facebook: @attaboy Twitter: @attaboyonline Instagram: @attaboyonline Enjoy the songs? Songs heard throughout the episode were: “Waking Up, Never Going Back, Disappearing, and Fire” from the album, Wild. Go forth and find their music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and anywhere good music is found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/BIo: Welcome to 2020! We now live in the future! To kick the year off we welcome back one of our favorites guests, Dr. Jacquline Bussie! We talk about her wonderful book “Outlaw Christian” and why we need to stop apologizing for our tears. Dr. Bussie is an award-winning author, professor, theologian, public speaker, and student of life in all its messy beauty. Her books include “Love without Limits (2018) and “Outlaw Christian” (2016), which won the 2017 Gold Medal Illumination Award for Christian Living. Jacqueline teaches religion, theology, and interfaith studies classes at Concordia College in Moorehead, Minnesota, where she also serves as the Director of the Forum on Faith and Life. Guest Social Media: www.jacquelinebussie.com Twitter: @jacquelinebussie Instagram: @jbussie Facebook: @jacqueline.bussie Special Music By: Family & Friends www.familyandfriendsband.com Twitter: @famandpals Instagram: @familyandfriendstagram Facebook: @familyandfriends Bandcamp: www.familyandfriends.bandcamp.com Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Family and Friends” from the album, Love You Mean It. “Hold on to Your Love”, “Winding Roads”, and “PRSM” from the album, Felix Culpa. You can find Family & Friends music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, BandCamp, or anywhere good music is sold! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Ep 95 - Dr. Kathleen M. O'Conner "Lamentations and the Tears of the World" by Adam Narloch & John Williamson

Guest/Bio:

This week I welcome Adam Elmasri! Adam is an Australian Egyptian free thinker, human rights activist, author, and content creator. He is widely recognized as a strong religious critic whose viewpoints are based on academic studies and as a supporter of the LGBTQ+ and women’s rights in the Middle East. As an author, Adam Elmasri has published two books and numberous articles on various topics, including religion, politics, and human rights. His work has been praised for its insightful and thought-provoking analysis, and he is considered one of the leading voices in his field. In addition to his YouTube channels and writing, Adam Elmasri is also a popular speaker and commentator. He has appeared on numerous media outlets to share his expertise and insights, and he is often invited to speak at conferences, universities and community based events around Australia. 

Elmasri was born in the late 1970s in Cairo. He grew up in Egypt as an orthodox Coptic Christian. Elmasri actively engaged in religious conversation in his youth by reading about and participating in Muslim discussion groups. He has actively participated in religious debates in his native Egypt and Australia.

Elmasri holds two bachelor's degrees. He obtained his first undergraduate degree in Cairo. Later in his thirties, Elmasri enrolled in an Australian University to pursue his bachelor of arts degree in ancient literature, biblical studies, and textual criticism. His academic studies were primarily focused on the new testament of the Judeo-Christian scriptures. Elmasri has also completed a course for suicide prevention with the Salvation Army, earning the title of Gate Keeper.

Guest (Selected) Works: Wounded by Faith: A True Story

Guest Links:

https://www.adamelmasri.online/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freethinker_adamelmasri

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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam_elmasri_official

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

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Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

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Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

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Guest Info/Bio: This week we’re very excited because our guest is Dan Haseltine! Dan is best known as the lead singer of the multi-platinum, Grammy Award-winning band Jars of Clay. We talk about everything from how Jars of Clay got their start to his work helping to bring clean water to places in need. Beyond his work as a musician, Dan is also co-founder of the non-profit organization, Blood:Water Mission. Blood:Water Mission works as an equipping agency that partners with African grassroots organizations to address the water and HIV/AIDS crises. Dan is a regular writer and speaker about worship music, HIV/AIDS in Africa, social justice, and church reform. His is also a regular columnist for Relevant Magazine, and has contributed articles to Moody, CCM Magazine, Christianity Today, World Vision, Campus Life, and Beliefnet. Guest Social Media: www.jarsofclay.com www.bloodwater.org Facebook: @jarsofclay Twitter: @jarsofclay & @scribblepotemus Special Music By: Jars of Clay Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Silence” from the album, The Eleventh Hour “All My Tears” from the album, Good Monsters “Weapons” & “Hero” from the album, The Long Fall Back to Earth “Left Undone” & “Love in Hard Times” from the album, Inland You can find Jars of Clay’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Google Play, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: This week we bring back a dear friend and one of our favorite guests of all time, Dr. Alexander Shaia. One of the things we wanted to do for the listeners, but even more so our friends, was to try our best to paint a picture of the journey that our friend Simon was getting ready to embark on. And so, we called in the expert and the guy who literally wrote the book on it. In fact, Simon had that very book with him when he left for Spain. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did and that you at least get a sense of the power and meaning behind the Camino. Dr. Shaia is an international speaker, author, and teacher. He studied cultural anthropology at Notre Dame University, and also has a PhD in Clinical Psychology. Alexander is the author of the revolutionary book, “Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation.” This episode is dedicated in loving memory to Simon Forsythe. Guest Social Media: www.quadratos.com Facebook: @walkwithheartandmind Special Music By: Rivers & Robots www.riversandrobots.com Facebook: @riversandrobots Twitter: @riversandrobots Instagram: @riversandrobots Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “We have overcome” & “Light Will Dawn” from the album, All Things New; “Home” from the album, The Eternal Son; and “Dreams” & “Discovery” from the album, Discovery, You can find Rivers & Robot’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: This week is a very special and personal episode for us. On November 10, 2018 we lost our dear friend Simon Forsythe. Simon was our pastor, our friend, our very first interview (episode #2), and helped us get this podcast off the ground. This week we speak with Mel, his wife and co-lead pastor of LIFE Church about Simon, their church, and Simon’s legacy. Melanie Forsythe is the Lead Pastor of LIFE Vineyard Church, a vibrant faith community in the heart of Columbus, Ohio. She came to faith in the post-Christian landscape of Australia. There, Melanie was a youth pastor for many years before moving to America alongside her now late husband and co-founder of LIFE Vineyard. In spite of the unexpected loss of her husband in late 2018, Melanie is unapologetically in love with the Gospel, and full of hope and vision for the future of the local church. Her Selah conference, held annually in Columbus reaches women from all walks of life, calling them to live lives of authentic devotion to Jesus. This episode is dedicated in loving memory to Simon. Guest Social Media: www.lifevineyardchurch.com Special Music By: James Truslow Facebook: @Truslowmusic Twitter: @Truslowmusic Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Greater, No Other Name, Overwhelmed, & We Are Yours” from the EP, Celestial. “Lover” from the album Hurricane. You can find Truslow’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: Karen is a former public school teacher and attended Fuller Theological Seminary, where she studied theology and missiology. For the last 11 years, she has been a non-profit professional, currently working for World Relief, an organization that serves immigrants and refugees. She wrote a book about her own immigration story and the many immigrants found in the Bible: The God Who Sees: Immigrants, The Bible, and the Journey to Belong (Herald Press, May 2019). You can find her on Twitter and Instagram musing about theology: @_karenjgonzalez. Her writing can be found on the communal blogs: The Mudroom and The Salt Collective. She is a sought after speaker, who has written about and presented on a variety of topics, including spiritual formation, Latinx identity, race and culture, women in the church, the Enneagram, and immigration. She also has bylines in Sojourners, Christianity Today, The Christian Century, Christ and Pop Culture, and others. (Selected) Guest Publications: The God Who Sees: Immigrants, The Bible, and the Journey to Belong (Herald Press, May 2019). Guest Social Media: www.karen-gonzalez.com Twitter: @_karengonzalez Instagram: @_karengonzalez Special Music By: Jordy Searcy www.jordysearcymusic.com Twitter: @jordysearcymusi Facebook: @jordysearcymusic Instagram: @jordysearcymusic Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Explaining Jesus” & “Rosalyn” from the album, Dark in the City and the new single, “Better.” You can find Jordy’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: And we’re back! We’ve been sitting on this one for a little while now and couldn't wait to get it out to all of you. This week we welcome Dr. Barbara Brown Taylor! Barbara is a best-selling author, teacher, and Episcopal priest. Her first memoir, Leaving Church, won an Author of the Year award from the Georgia Writers Association in 2006. Her next two books, An Altar in the World (2010) and Learning To Walk in the Dark (2015), earned places on the New York Times bestseller list. She has served on faculties of Piedmont College, Columbia Theological Seminary, Candler School of Theology at Emory University, McAfee School of Theology at Mercer University, and the Certificate in Theological Studies program at Arrendale State Prison for Women in Alto, Georgia. In 2014 TIME included her on its annual list of Most Influential People; in 2015 she was named Georgia Woman of the Year; in 2016 she received the President’s Medal at the Chautauqua Institution in New York. (Selected) Guest Publications: When God is Silent; Home By Another Way; Leaving Church: A Memoir of Faith; An Altar in the World: A Geography of Faith; Learning to Walk in the Dark; and Holy Envy: Finding God in the Faith of Others Guest Social Media: www.barbarabrowntaylor.com Facebook: @barbarabrowntaylor Special Music By: Remedy Drive www.remedydrive.com Twitter: @RemedyDrive Facebook: @remedydrive Instagram: @remedydrive Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Disappear, Brighter Than Apathy, and Warlike” from the album, The North Star and the song, “Guide You Home” from the album, Hope’s Not Giving Up. You can find Remedy Drive’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: We finally did it! A second episode AND it’s with our buddy Dr. Pete Enns! Dr. Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. He has taught courses at several other institutions including Harvard University, Fuller Theological Seminary, and Princeton Theological Seminary. Dr. Enns is a biblical scholar, theologian, and author who has written on topics like hermeneutics, the relationship between science and religion, Christianity and evolution, and Old Testament interpretation. He is also a contributor to the Huffington Post and Patheos and a regular blogger at www.peteenns.com (Selected) Guest Publications: The Bible Tells me so…; Inspiration and Incarnation; The Evolution of Adam; Telling God’s Story; The Sin of Certainty; How the Bible Really Works*; and more… Guest Social Media: www.peteenns.com Twitter: @peteenns Facebook: @PeteEnnsAuthor Check out Pete’s podcast The Bible For Normal People anywhere you find your podcasts! It’s terrific! We listen to it, and so should you! Special Music By: Josh Gauton www.joshgauton.com Twitter: @joshgauton Facebook: @joshgauton Instagram: @joshgauton Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Wild Love (ft. Elle Limebear), Time’s Not Wasted, This Side of Heaven, Majesty (O The Mystery), and Cathedral” from the album O, Peace. You can find Josh’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

GUEST INFO/BIO: Hello 2019!!! We kick off the year (FINALLY!) with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord. Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author, and he has written or edited more than twenty books. Lord has won the Outstanding Faculty Award twelve times as professor of Northwest Nazarene University, Nampa, Idaho. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, relational theology, science and religion, and Wesleyan/Holiness/Church of the Nazarene thought. (SELECT) GUEST PUBLICATIONS: The Nature of Love: A Theology; The Uncontrolling Love of God: An Open and Relational Account of Providence; ReThinking the Bible: Inerrancy, Preaching, Inspiration, Authority, Formation, Archeology, Postmodernism, and More; God Can’t: How to Believe in God and Love After Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils. GUEST LINKS/SOCIAL MEDIA: www.thomasjayoord.com Twitter: @thomasjayoord SPECIAL GUEST MUSIC: Cody Fry www.codyfry.com Twitter: @codyfry Facebook: @codyfrymusic Instagram: @codyfry Enjoy the songs? Songs heard throughout the episode were: “Better, Hold On, Go, & A Little More” from the album, Flying and the single, “Vegas.” Go support Cody by grabbing his tunes on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, and anywhere good music is found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com ! Go there to read our latest blog post, grab a t-shirt, snag a cool pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family. The Deconstructionists Podcast is edit by John Williamson. This episode was produced by George “the alien/human hybrid” Benson. Check out George’s podcast Evangebros! Website designed by Ryan Battles. All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pluig t-shirt designs by Colin Rigsby, Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, & Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: Our final guest of 2018 wrote one of our favorite books of this past year. Dr. Jacqueline Bussie is an award-winning author, professor, theologian, public speaker, and student of life in all its messy beauty. Her books include “Love without Limits (2018) and “Outlaw Christian” (2016), which won the 2017 Gold Medal Illumination Award for Christian Living. Jacqueline teaches religion, theology, and interfaith studies classes at Concordia College in Moorehead, Minnesota, where she also serves as the Director of the Forum on Faith and Life. Guest Social Media: www.jacquelinebussie.com Twitter: @jacquelinbussie Instagram: @jbussie Facebook: @jacqueline.bussie Special Music By: Sleeping at Last www.sleepingatlast.com Twitter: @sleepingatlast Facebook: @sleepingatlast Instagram: @sleepingatlast Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Atlas: Body, Atlas: Heart, Atlas: One, Atlas: Four, & “Mars” from the album, Atlas: Space (Deluxe). You can find Sleeping At Last’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by George Benson. George is the host of the Evangebro’s podcast available anywhere good podcasts are found! George also once slayed a dragon. He’s the reason we’re all much safer now. Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! We also have brand new coffee mugs in the webstore! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

GUEST INFO/BIO: This week’s guest is Linda Kay Klein! Linda is a storyteller and social innovator. She is the author of “PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free,” and the founder of Break Free Together. We talk with her all about the impact of the purity movement, the power of sexual shaming in society, and the role of society and the church in helping address sexual violence. (SELECT) GUEST PUBLICATIONS: “PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free” GUEST LINKS/SOCIAL MEDIA: https://lindakayklein.com Twitter: @lindakayklein SPECIAL GUEST MUSIC: https://www.benandnoelle.com Facebook: @BenNoelleKilgore Twitter: @benandnoelle Instagram: @benandnoellekilgore Enjoy the songs? Songs heard throughout the episode were: “Grace Grace; He Made Me, He Loves Me; Oh My Soul; & Draw Me Close” from the album “A Resting Place.” Go forth and find their music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and anywhere good music is found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by George Benson. George not only has an amazing beard, but is also hosts his own podcast called Evangebros! Check them out wherever you listen to your podcasts. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: This week we give you part 2 of our two-part series on The Bible! We bring back one of our favorite guests of all time Dr. Timothy Mackie! Check out Dr. Mackie’s work on his podcasts The Bible Project and Exploring My Strange Bible. Dr. Mackie is the creative writer and director for The Bible Project and an adjunct professor of Old Testament at Western Seminary, both in Portland, Oregon. He discovered the wonderful world of biblical studies and languages at Multnomah University and Western Seminary and had the privilege of dong a PhD in Hebrew and Jewish studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Guest Social Media: www.timmackie.com www.thebibleproject.com Twitter: @timmackie Special Music By: The Gray Havens www.thegrayhavensmusic.com Twitter: @grayhavensmusic Facebook: @thegrayhavens Instagram: @grayhavensmusic Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “At Last, the King; This My Soul; & Ghost of a King” from the album, Ghost of a King. “Storehouse” and “Forever” from the new album, She Waits. You can find The Gray Haven’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. The Deconstructionist’s Podcast is mixed and edited by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! We also have brand new coffee mugs in the webstore! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest/Bio:

Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women’s issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden combines her personal experience growing up in purity culture with her professional expertise in mind-body integration. She now offers her clients and online community strategies for healing their faith and sexuality.

Guest (Selected) Works: Recovering From Purity Culture: Dismantle The Myths, Reject Shame-Based Sexuality, And Move Forward In Your Faith

Guest Links:

https://drcamden.com/

Substack: https://drcamden.substack.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drcamden

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrCamden/

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

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Guest Info/Bio: This week we kick off our new two-part Bible series with Jared Byas from the amazing podcast, “The Bible for Normal People” that he co-hosts with Pete Enns. Jared is also a professor of ethics and biblical studies when he isn’t crushing it with the good Dr. Enns. (Select) Guest Publications: Genesis for Normal People: A Guide to the Most Controversial, Misunderstood, and Abused Book of the Bible. Guest Social Media: https://jbyas.com Twitter: @jbyas Facebook: @jared.byas Special Music By: Glass Cases www.glass-cases.com Twitter: @glasscasesband Facebook: @glasscasesband Instagram: @glasscasesband Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Parables, Evelyne, Addiction, and Thinking Sideways” from the Where is Foreward EP. You can find Glass Cases’ music on iTunes, Bandcamp, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. The Deconstructionist’s Podcast is mixed and edited by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: Happy Halloween! This week we’re bringing you some bonus content we put together on the evolution of Satan aka The Devil. Plus it gave us a great reason to go back and use our original theme music again. We will be back in two weeks with the start of our brand new series on scripture! For additional resources on the this topic check out these books: Satan, the Devil, and the History of Hell by Charles River Editors; The Origin of Satan by Elaine Pagels; Reviving Old Scratch by Richard Beck; and The History of the Devil by Paul Carus. The Deconstructionist’s Podcast is mixed and edited by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: This week we bring you the talented and amazing John Mark McMillan! John Mark is an American musician and songwriter whose songs have been played in churches and on radio across the world. HIs new album, “Mercury & Lightening” is available everywhere now! He’s also currently on tour so go check out his live show! Guest Social Media: https://www.johnmarkmcmillan.com/ Twitter: @JohnMarkmc Facebook: @johnmarkmcmillan Instagram: @johnmarkmcmillan Enjoy the songs? Songs featured on this episode were: “Mercury & Lightening; Fumbling Towards the Light; Body in Motion (ft. Liz Vice); Enemy, love.; & Wilderlove” from the album, Mercury & Lightening. Find John Mark’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! The Deconstructionist’s Podcast is mixed and edited by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.