Explorez tous les épisodes du podcast The Dead Robots' Society
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| Who Am I? | 14 Sep 2024 | 01:00:24 | |
Veronica asks the age-old question: "How the hell do I write an author bio?" Chat will probably wear a dunce cap. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Failure To Release | 08 Sep 2024 | 01:01:43 | |
The DRS Crew takes aim at book releases and discusses how best not to screw them up. From ill-advised promotional techniques to best practices, Terry, Veronica, and Paul share personal anecdotes and pet peeves. Chat, as. usual, insists lead paint chips make one more intelligent. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Maps, Wikis, And Renderings -- what do you actually need? | 25 May 2024 | 01:00:41 | |
Do props, outlines, and other aids actually help in the writing? The DRS Crew ponders. Chat, as per usual, is chewing on lead paint chips Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Dystopia! Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying About The Present | 18 May 2024 | 01:01:27 | |
Do you love dystopia and cataclysm tropes? Why? Veronica, Paul, and Terry discuss. Chat has the nuclear launch codes, and we are very afraid. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Getting Back On Track | 11 May 2024 | 01:00:55 | |
Terry, V, and Paul discuss that whole "getting back on the horse after life tries to kill it" thing. Chat has promised us a glue factory.
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| Illicit Futures | 04 May 2024 | 01:01:27 | |
Veronica, Terry, and Paul discuss including drugs, weapons, and other potentially controversial elements in your stories. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Reset! | 27 Apr 2024 | 01:02:00 | |
Veronica, Terry, and Paul discuss how to reset those bad habits and declutter your writing. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| The Genre Bunny Left Me Eggs | 13 Apr 2024 | 01:01:01 | |
Paul, Terry, and Veronica discuss genre jumping and the art of leaving easter eggs in your work. Chat will no doubt be eating crayons. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Design The Race and Run It | 06 Apr 2024 | 01:00:27 | |
Paul and Terry discuss plot versus pacing and take questions from chat. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Guard Your Rights | 30 Mar 2024 | 01:01:13 | |
Veronica, Terry, and Paul discuss publishing rights, what to sell, and the deals to avoid. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| How Do You Measure Success? | 30 Mar 2024 | 01:03:11 | |
Terry, Veronica, and Paul try and answer the question: how do you measure your long-term success as a creator? Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| The Book Is Published...Now What? | 30 Mar 2024 | 01:02:28 | |
You published a book. Now what do you do to sell it? Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast. | |||
| Outline? What Outline? | 03 Sep 2024 | 01:00:41 | |
Paul is writing to an outline for the third time in his career. Will Terry laugh at him, or will he have sage advice? What will Veronica advise after all her experiences with outlines? Dear Garaaga, what will CHAT have to say? Our links: Discord: https://discord.gg/pgmQxaVbGP Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter, and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast. | |||
| Rights Grabs - When Distribution Networks Go Bad | 01 Mar 2024 | 01:01:44 | |
Terry, Paul, and Veronica discuss the latest moves by Spotify to usurp creators' and audiobook narrator's rights. Chat will surely have opinions. Alternatives to Findaway: Alternatives to Spotify:
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| Scum and Villainy! | 17 Feb 2024 | 01:03:15 | |
Veronica, Terry, and Paul discuss how to make good villains that don't fall into the "nature" or "environment" tropes. In other words, how do we create relatable scumbags? Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast. | |||
| Multipass! | 17 Feb 2024 | 01:02:35 | |
The DRS Crew are currently editing/beta reading manuscripts and they have more than a few thoughts on the subject. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast. | |||
| 2024 - The Unexpected Mess | 17 Feb 2024 | 01:00:09 | |
The year is not going well for the DRS Crew, and it just started. So what are they doing to keep on track? Also? Why is chat looking at us like that? Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast | |||
| Nanites, Stasis, and Printing Meat | 10 Feb 2024 | 01:02:20 | |
The DRS crew brainstorms about the technologies we'll need for exploring/inhabiting space. Chat might have opinions, but who cares about them. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast | |||
| A DRS Holiday Diatribe | 02 Feb 2024 | 01:02:09 | |
What makes an iconic holiday story? How can you take one of your existing properties and make a holiday narrative out of it? Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast | |||
| Abusing Your Betas | 30 Dec 2023 | 01:01:02 | |
V goes walkabout for bowling leaving Terry and Paul the odious task of calling out all writers for abusing their beta readers. Or, more accurate, misusing them. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast | |||
| PLANS! | 23 Dec 2023 | 01:00:54 | |
Why wait for December or the end of the year to make next year's plans? What's wrong with you? Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast | |||
| 20Books Hangover | 16 Dec 2023 | 01:03:34 | |
Veronica and Terry regale Paul and chat with their tales of literary debauchery at the 20Books Vegas conference. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Just Say November | 09 Dec 2023 | 01:03:38 | |
Join the DRS Crew as they give advice they don't follow as they prepare for writing conferences, publishing books, and, Garaaga forbid, writing them. Also? Chat is a problem we aim to ignore. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Plot Bunnies Ate My Lettuce! | 24 Aug 2024 | 01:00:13 | |
Paul is finishing up Extinction and asks the question--what subplots do I actually need? The DRS Crew Discuss Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Editors, Covers, and Audio -- What to do when the book is finished | 05 Dec 2023 | 01:03:00 | |
Yay. You finished your novel. Now what? We're certain chat will have their own opinion, but who listens to them anyway? Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Plotications! | 18 Nov 2023 | 01:02:00 | |
Got a boring plot? We got a solution for you. Chat, however, does not. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Myopic Productivity | 11 Nov 2023 | 01:02:14 | |
Terry lays out his process and Paul takes him to task for claiming he's having productivity issues. Chat piles on. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| "Ask Me Anything" | 10 Nov 2023 | 01:02:00 | |
The DRS crew invite chat to ask us anything (within reason, of course). Nothing good come from this...
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| That's A Bad Influence! - Episode 654 | 10 Nov 2023 | 01:00:34 | |
DRS Episode 654 Terry asks Paul and V the question: is there such a thing as a bad influence when it comes to movies, books, and other media? Do they have a negative impact on your narratives? Chat proves once again that they are a bad influence. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Alternate Worlds With James Peet | 27 Oct 2023 | 01:05:21 | |
Alternate realities, dimensional shifts, and portals that lead anywhere. Author James Peet joins the DRS Crew to discuss creating alternate worlds as well as some basic rules. Chat, however, follows no rules. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| James Carpio Gives Good RPG | 20 Oct 2023 | 01:02:55 | |
Gamemaster and RPG designer James Carpio joins the DRS crew to talk RPGs, quick stories, and adventure. Chat is a constant problem. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Don't Be Candide | 13 Oct 2023 | 01:00:25 | |
Terry asks about character motivation. Paul provides Voltaire's Candide as an example. All hell breaks loose with chat. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Space Western Stormin' | 06 Oct 2023 | 01:00:29 | |
Veronica makes the mistake of asking Paul and Terry to help brainstorm a new space western. She should have known better. As usual, chat is more a hindrance than help. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Your Best Is Just Good Enough - DRS Episode 648 | 23 Sep 2023 | 01:00:37 | |
Paul, Veronica, and Terry discuss when to cut bait on editing, polishing, and worrying, and when it's time to just hit the damned publish button. In other news, chat is obnoxious. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Wrap It Up! | 16 Aug 2024 | 00:59:59 | |
Terry and Paul are wrapping up their respective series. The DRS Crew discusses the challenges of ending a multi-book series and how they plan to accomplish it. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast.
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| Cadence and Promises - DRS Episode 647 | 16 Sep 2023 | 01:03:23 | |
Paul discusses setting a publishing cadence for indie works and the budgeting that goes on. Terry and V chime in while chat is, well, chat. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Backstory Hell - DRS Episode 646 | 11 Sep 2023 | 01:02:28 | |
Paul and Veronica attempt to talk Terry down from a circuitous backstory ledge. What follows is utter insanity not exactly assisted by chat. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Organizing Reality - DRS Episode 645 | 09 Sep 2023 | 01:01:28 | |
Paul, Terry, and Veronica discuss how NOT to organize by being examples of utter failure. But, we'll tell YOU how to do it! Also? Chat does not respect our authority. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Some Things Don't Stay in Vegas - DRS Episode 649 | 05 Sep 2023 | 01:00:56 | |
Terry, Veronica, and Paul invite author Jonathon "Jack Jack" Benjamin to discuss his memoir, general writing esoterica, and, of course, we deal with chat. Johnathon's memoir - https://amzn.to/3KB0HwI Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Prepare, Prepress, Publish | 02 Sep 2023 | 01:01:05 | |
Terry, Paul, and Veronica discuss the perils of the publishing process. Also? Chat is not alliterative. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Firsts With Rick Shaw - DRS Episode 643 | 12 Aug 2023 | 01:03:55 | |
Author and friend of the show joins Terry, Veronica, and Paul to discuss his first novel. Prepare to roast, joke, and maybe even learn something. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Deus Ex Whatkahina? - DRS Episode 642 | 11 Aug 2023 | 01:03:31 | |
Join Paul, Terry, and Veronica for an hour of ghosts in the machine. If chat will let us. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast .
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| Pitch Deck Returns! - DRS Episode 641 | 11 Aug 2023 | 01:02:57 | |
DRS Episode 641 - Pitch Deck Returns! Terry, Paul, and V come up with plots for the pitch deck cards chosen by chat. Nothing good will come from this. We promise. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Instead of Pitch Deck, Here's Us! - DRS Episode 640 | 11 Aug 2023 | 01:02:14 | |
DRS Episode 640 - Instead of Pitch Deck, Here's Us Paul and Terry attempt to pacify chat when V goes walkabout. Hilarity ensues. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Patreon, BMAC, and Kofi - DRS Episode 639 | 15 Jul 2023 | 01:01:04 | |
DRS Episode 639 - Patreon, BMAC, and Kofi Terry and Paul share how they use Patreon, Buy Me A Coffee, and Kofi to help support their writing and podcasting. There's also some discussion about Donna Summers... Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| The Slog | 06 Jul 2024 | 01:00:31 | |
The DRS Crew considers the question: when do you decide to rewrite or just slog on through and fix it in the edit? Chat will probably bring a napkin with a plot scribbled on it. Our links: Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast. #writing #cooley #giguere #mixon #audiobooks #novel #fiction #author #podcast #horror #scifi #fantasy | |||
| AI Seances, Bad Haircuts, and Surprises | 15 Jul 2023 | 01:00:53 | |
DRS Episode 638 - AI Seances, Bad Haircuts, and Surprises After Paul shares a story about AIs, the crew descend into utter madness of story ideas, esoterica, and utter nonsense. Chat, of course, is no help at all keeping us on topic. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Advice For Paul - Episode 637 | 03 Jun 2023 | 01:00:56 | |
DRS Episode 637 - Advice for Paul Paul goes walkabout leaving Terry and Veronica without a topic. As such, Paul becomes the topic. Let the roast begin! Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Science! Story Bibles! Newsletters? - DRS Episode 636 | 27 May 2023 | 01:00:40 | |
DRS Episode 636 - Science! Story Bibles! Newsletters? Paul nerds out on science, Terry laments his story bible situation, and we never get near the topic of newletters because of chat. That's right, we blame chat. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||
| Sidekicks, Overlords, and Too Damned Many Words - DRS Episode 635 | 27 May 2023 | 01:01:02 | |
DRS Episode 635 - Sidekicks, Overlords, and Too Damned Many Words Are your secondary characters sidekicks? Are your protags really evil cat overlords? How many words are too many? Terry, Veronica, and Paul try to stay on topic despite chat's evil temptations. Paul's store: https://payhip.com/paulecooley Enjoy the show? Consider becoming a Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee supporter and for as little as $1 a month, you can help keep the podcast free and receive exclusive content. More information at https://patreon.com/drspodcast and https://buymeacoffee.com/drspodcast . | |||