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| #137 A High School Businessman - The Kevin Flory Family | 12 Nov 2025 | 01:18:04 | |
Today we’re sitting down with the Flory family — Kevin, his wife, and their kids, Grant and Lauren — who’ve made an exciting return to the show ring with their Belgian horses. For the Florys, this isn’t just about competition, it’s a family affair built on hard work, teamwork, and a lifelong passion for draft horses. Kevin’s story is impressive in its own right — as a high school student, he was already running his own business with employees on the payroll. That same drive and determination shows up today in how his family works together to build and grow their Belgian program and maintain their family business. We’ll talk about what brought them back to the show ring, the lessons they’ve learned along the way, and how they balance business, family, and a whole lot of horsepower. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #137!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #136 2025 World Finals Champions | 22 Oct 2025 | 01:10:17 | |
Better late than never! We were finally able to catch up with all of the 2025 Classic Series World Champions. Listen in as Mark and Kyle talk with the exhibitors about what it took to secure their World Finals Championships. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #136!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #127 Power in the Bloodlines - Part 2B: Belgians with Corbly Orndorff | 23 Jul 2025 | 01:57:59 | |
In this second episode of our three part series, we’re talking Belgians with Corbly Orndorff. Corbly Orndorff joins us to talk about how Belgians came into their own in North America and the major shifts the breed has seen over the years. We get into how the look, style, and expectations have changed—from the farm fields to the bright lights of the show ring. Corbly shares stories, insight, and a whole lot of opinion on what makes a great Belgian and where the breed is headed. There was so much information packed into this conversation, we're having to split it up into a part A and B! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #127!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #37 Clydesdales in Tokyo - Robert Detweiler | 13 Apr 2022 | 01:16:08 | |
Who ever thought that draft horses could take you all around the globe?! Jarron, Kyle, Ross, and Mark were able to chat with Robert Detweiler, a mainstay in the draft horse industry. He has stories from all corners of the world and we are positive you will enjoy this episode as much as we did! | |||
| #36 It's Breeding Season - Gerald Allebach | 23 Mar 2022 | 01:03:28 | |
We are in the heart of the 2022 breeding season! Jarron, Kyle, and Mark sat down with Gerald Allebach of Windermere Farms to talk about some of their history and what you can do to have a successful breeding season. | |||
| #35 The Faster the Better - Jason & Rose Goodman | 09 Mar 2022 | 01:29:27 | |
There's not a shortage of stories in episode #35! We got to chat with Jason and Rose Goodman and we went way back! We talk about the infamous Forty Horse Hitch, Percheron Thunder, and more stories about traveling on the road with draft horses. You can also hear the unofficial results from the Queen Creek Classic and the Gordyville sale. | |||
| #34 We Must Have More Fun - Brad & Clint Schreiber | 22 Feb 2022 | 00:49:11 | |
We're releasing episode #34 a day early so you all can listen to it as your traveling to Gordyville! | |||
| #33 Time for an Auction - Craig Grange & Jason Honsberger | 09 Feb 2022 | 01:07:31 | |
A Draft horse auction can be intimidating for first time buyers and veteran horsemen alike. Jarron, Mark and Kyle were able to sit down with Craig Grange and Jason Honsberger to get some insight on how these two horsemen tackle a public auction. Listen in for a lot of knowledge and results from the Grandview Invitational in Florida! | |||
| #32 Way Out West - History of the Big Thunder Show & the National Western | 26 Jan 2022 | 00:51:54 | |
The Big Thunder Draft Horse Show in Loveland, CO and the National Western Stock Show in Denver, CO just wrapped up and Jarron, Mark, and Kyle were able to sit down with Brian Coleman, Kirk Messenger, and Rose Goodman to talk about the history of the two shows. We also go over our first show results and sale results of 2022! | |||
| #31 Making it in the Dairy Business - Dale & Colleen Mattoon | 12 Jan 2022 | 00:57:57 | |
SEASON TWO! We made it to 2022 and for our first episode of the year Jarron, Mark, and Kevin were able to sit down with Dale and Colleen Mattoon, the owners of Pine Hollow Dairy in Locke, NY. The Mattoons bought their first Percherons in 2012 and have learned a ton in their short ten years as horses owners. Listen in to hear about those who have helped them along the way and learn about their background in the dairy business. | |||
| #30 What a Year It's Been - 2021 Recap | 29 Dec 2021 | 00:55:51 | |
2021 was a year like no other! Jarron, Mark, Kyle, Kevin, Doyle, and Carl sat down and talked about all things Classic Series in 2021. They explain some of the new by-law changes, talk about the Youth Classic Cart Series and talk about the future they see in 2022! Don't forget to check out the new job posting for the Classic Series Executive Secretary position. We can't wait to see where the Series heads in 2022! | |||
| #29 REPLAY Bred in the Purple - The Honsberger's | 22 Dec 2021 | 00:53:24 | |
Episode #29 is a replay of our most listened to episode of 2021 our inaugural season and it is sure to make you laugh! Jarron is joined by Mark and Kevin while they chat with Larry, Jason, and Ross about their time in the draft horse industry and get a small glimpse into growing up as a Honsberger. Larry will be missed by many, but these memories will live on forever and provide many smiles. | |||
| #28 A Little Teasing Never Hurt - Tim & Brittany Sparrow and Ross & Nicole Honsberger | 08 Dec 2021 | 00:43:11 | |
Better late than never! Jarron, Mark, and Kyle finally got the chance to sit down with 2021 World Champions, Tim & Brittany Sparrow, and Reserve World Champions, Ross & Nicole Honsberger. If you only take away one thing from this episode, we hope it is the fact that it is the families and friends that make the draft horse industry one of the best! | |||
| #126 Power in the Bloodlines - Part 2A: Belgians with Corbly Orndorff | 09 Jul 2025 | 01:28:50 | |
In this second episode of our three part series, we’re talking Belgians with Corbly Orndorff. Corbly Orndorff joins us to talk about how Belgians came into their own in North America and the major shifts the breed has seen over the years. We get into how the look, style, and expectations have changed—from the farm fields to the bright lights of the show ring. Corbly shares stories, insight, and a whole lot of opinion on what makes a great Belgian and where the breed is headed. There was so much information packed into this conversation, we're having to split it up into a part A and B! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #126!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #27 Clydesdales and Wrestling - Andrew Stalhiem | 24 Nov 2021 | 00:38:07 | |
The guys got to talk with Andrew Stalhiem and the laughs were not in short supply! He filled us in on his time with the Budweiser Clydesdales and gave us an insight into growing up in a Clydesdale family. PLUS listen in for a special shopping code from Rinehold's! | |||
| #26 Percheron Typhoon - Duane, Beth & Josh Wilcox | 10 Nov 2021 | 00:50:36 | |
Jarron, Kyle and Mark got a little family time with the Wilcox's. They have been involved with horses the majority of their lives, but grey Percherons have been a more recent addition. Listen in for some dang good stories! We also announce the two newest board members to the Classic Series! | |||
| #25 Peaches & Percherons - Dennis & Staci Clark | 27 Oct 2021 | 00:50:34 | |
Jarron and Kyle get to chat with Dennis and Staci Clark from Palisade, CO. Dennis and Staci are multi-generation fruit farmers and have taken a liking to the Percheron horse. Listen in to learn about their farm and how horses have become a large part of their life! PLUS the guys answer a couple of your mailbag questions! | |||
| #24 It Takes the Whole Family - Justin & Julie Hussey | 13 Oct 2021 | 01:13:54 | |
Jarron, Mark, and Kyle we able to sit down with Justin and Julie Hussey of North Conway, NH. This chat is FULL of stories that are guaranteed to make you laugh! Plus, the guys give an update on recent show placings and more. | |||
| #23 Meet the Candidates - Part Two | 07 Oct 2021 | 00:50:33 | |
There are two Board of Director positions opening up for 2022! Listen in to hear from the remaining three of the seven candidates running! In this episode Jarron, Kevin, Mark, and Kyle sit down with Doyle Dingman, Carl Ade, and Aaron Rhoades! Go back and listen to episode #22 Meet the Candidates - Part One to hear what Tracie Brockhoff, Ron Wismer, Joe Biren and Matt Deering had to say! | |||
| #22 Meet the Candidates - Part One | 01 Oct 2021 | 00:54:05 | |
There are two Board of Director positions opening up for 2022! Listen in to hear from four of the seven candidates running! In this episode Jarron, Mark, and Kyle sit down with Tracie Brockhoff, Ron Wismer, Joe Biren and Matt Deering. Keep watching for Part Two to go live where you will be able to hear from Doyle Dingman, Carl Ade, and Aaron Rhoades! | |||
| #21 A Week to Remember - A Full Recap of the 2021 Finals | 22 Sep 2021 | 00:33:04 | |
The week in Shipshewana for the World Finals was one that many will not soon forget. Jarron, Mark, and Kyle go over the weeks events. | |||
| #20 The WORLD FINALS - Round 1 is a Wrap | 17 Sep 2021 | 00:28:58 | |
Jarron, Kevin, Jason, and Rod had a chat about everything that happened in round one. | |||
| #19 The WORLD FINALS - Let's Break It Down | 16 Sep 2021 | 00:37:30 | |
Jarron, Kevin & Jason sat down this morning to break down and discuss the 12 qualifying hitches and what it's like to be competing at the Finals. Listen in for an inside perspective! | |||
| #18 The WORLD FINALS - Meet Your Qualifying Drivers Pt. 2 | 16 Sep 2021 | 00:30:20 | |
PART TWO - We're set up in the Lineup Lounge at the World Finals and we'll be bringing you content all week! We sat down with the rest of the top 12 qualifying drivers. Listen in to get to know the drivers and hitches competing this week in Shipshewana, IN. | |||
| #125 Power in the Bloodlines - Part 1: Clydesdales with Steve Gregg | 25 Jun 2025 | 01:33:18 | |
In this first episode of our three part series, we’re talking Clydesdales with Steve Gregg. Steve walks us through how the breed took root in North America and the people, programs, and horses that helped shape the modern Clydesdale we see in the ring today. From halter to hitch, we dig into how the breed has evolved, what’s stayed the same, and the behind-the-scenes stories only someone like Steve can tell. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #125!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #17 The WORLD FINALS - Meet Your Qualifying Drivers Pt. 1 | 15 Sep 2021 | 00:41:51 | |
We're set up in the Lineup Lounge at the World Finals and we'll be bringing you content all week! For Part One we sat down with 6 of the top 12 qualifying drivers. Listen in to get to know the drivers and hitches competing this week in Shipshewana, IN. | |||
| #16 The Race is Over - Classic Series Updates | 08 Sep 2021 | 00:25:24 | |
The 2020-2021 Classic Series points season has come to an end! Mark and Jarron go over show results from the last two weeks, talk about the upcoming World Finals and announce the 12 QUALIFIERS! This is a shorter episode, but it is packed with information! | |||
| #15 Let's Go Logging for Date Night - Brian & Colleen Coleman | 25 Aug 2021 | 01:03:09 | |
Jarron, Mark & Kevin were able to sit down with Brian & Colleen Coleman from Didsbury, AB and learn how they have become mainstays in the draft horse industry. You will hear stories ranging from living in a 1970's camper, logging with horses, showing at the Calgary Stampede and so much more! You won't want to miss this episode and the show updates as we are nearing the end of the 2021 Classic Series season! | |||
| #14 Classic Series Updates! | 11 Aug 2021 | 00:46:36 | |
Jarron, Kyle, Kevin and Mark were able to sit down together and just chat about everything happening in the Classic Series world! The go over recent shows, give an update from the board of directors, announce the membership award winners and so much more! | |||
| #13 Constructing a Legacy - Remembering Dick Ames | 28 Jul 2021 | 01:04:35 | |
With the Scott County Fair in Jordan, MN happening this week and the late Dick Ames being inducted into the Classic Series Hall of Fame, we thought it was only fitting to talk with some of Dick's past employees! Jim Westbrook, Travis Shaw, Tim Sparrow and Randy Riemer reminisce on their time spent at the Ames Percheron Farm and relive some of their favorite stories with Dick. Jarron, Mark, and Kyle also give a rundown of the shows that have recently happened and give you an UNOFFICIAL points update as hitches across the country are battling it out to make it to the World Finals.
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| #12 Kickin' it in Kansas - Carl & Kala Ade | 14 Jul 2021 | 01:11:31 | |
We had a great time with Carl & Kala Ade on episode #12! We were able to chat with them about Kala beating Carl in all of the youth classes, their ten-year break from showing horses to continue their education and their comeback in the show ring with Ade Family Belgians. You'll also get caught up on ALL the happenings in the show ring with recaps of numerous shows that have happened from coast to coast! | |||
| #11 Never Miss the Royal - Alan Freitag | 23 Jun 2021 | 01:11:52 | |
If you're into history, you better listen to episode 11! Jarron, Mark, and Kyle sit down with Alan Freitag and talk about his life in the equine industry and reminisce on stories from the Royal in Toronto. | |||
| #10 Runaway Cart Horses - Mark & Jocelyn Barie | 09 Jun 2021 | 01:13:35 | |
Episode #10 is one you won't want to miss! Jarron, Kyle, and Mark get to chat with Mark & Jocelyn Barie of Lor-Rob Belgians. They talk about breeding Belgians, showing horses over the years, and so much more. If you take away one thing from this episode, make sure not to give someone's fiancé a runaway cart horse! Listen in for some great laughs and get caught up on the recent shows and sales that happened over the last couple of weeks. | |||
| #9 Going for Longevity - Rod Kohler | 26 May 2021 | 01:04:37 | |
Do you need a laugh? You better listen to episode #9! Jarron, Kyle, and Mark sat down with the one and only Rod Kohler and talked about all aspects of his 20-year tenure at Oak Haven Belgians. Horse buying trips, manure slinging, and mice in the recliner. These stories are sure to make you laugh. ALSO learn more about upcoming sales and shows and we announce to 2021 WORLD FINALS JUDGES! | |||
| #8 Stand behind your horse - Steve Gregg | 12 May 2021 | 00:54:13 | |
Episode #8 was a blast to record! Jarron, Kyle, and Mark sit down with Steve Gregg out of Ontario and he was full of stories that range from the first days of the Classic series to eating POUNDS of steak at one time. We hope you all enjoy this episode as much as do! Don't forget to order your Drive Six and Classic Series merch by May 14th and vote for this year's new Hall of Fame Inductees! | |||
| #124 Watch out for the Kangaroos - Dean, Esmay & Montana Rheinberger | 11 Jun 2025 | 01:41:32 | |
In this episode, we’re heading to the Southern Hemisphere to visit with Dean, Esmay, and Montana Rheinberger of Australia! This family lives and breathes draft horses and they’ve built a life around training, showing, and traveling across the country with their horses. We talk about the differences (and similarities) in the draft horse world between Australia and North America, how they balance family life with the demands of the show ring, and what it’s like working with multiple breeds. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #124!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #7 Let's Hear it for the Ladies - Radene, Mary, Nicole & Faith | 28 Apr 2021 | 01:07:26 | |
Kellie and Laura join Jarron for episode #7! Listen in for a quick update on the National Clydesdale Sale and the Dover Draft Horse Sale, learn about NEW Classic Series Merchandise and website address, and hear from some of the ladies in our industry! We had the opportunity to sit down with Radene Messenger, Mary Myers, Faith Brooks, and Nicole Honsberger. They were full of great stories and advice. Make sure you listen all the way to the end to hear Kyle, Mark, and Kevin answer some of our Rinehold Tack & Western Wear Mailbag questions! | |||
| #6 Bred in the Purple - Larry, Jason & Ross Honsberger | 14 Apr 2021 | 01:15:58 | |
Episode 6 is sure to make you laugh! Jarron is joined by Mark, Kevin, and Larry to talk about updates within the series, the recent Midwest Select Horse sale, and other happenings within the draft horse industry. We then get to chat with Larry, Jason, and Ross about their time in the draft horse industry and get a small glimpse into growing up as a Honsberger. | |||
| #5 BIG NEWS - Show updates for 2021 | 24 Mar 2021 | 01:03:08 | |
2020 caused a lot of headaches in the draft horse show world. In this episode we talk with multiple guests on their upcoming shows and what exhibitors and spectators can expect! We enjoy chatting with Anne Nisley and Kim Behn about their new Clydesdale/Shire show happening in September in Shipshewana, IN. Calvin Martin from Manitoba talks with us about the rescheduled World Clydesdale show and what everyone can expect. Two guests toward the end of the episode reveal some exciting news about the Classic Series! | |||
| #4 SOLD! - Amos Yoder & Robert Hershberger | 10 Mar 2021 | 01:17:12 | |
Record after record was broke at this year's Mid-America Draft Horse sale in Gifford, IL. We sat down with Robert Hershberger and Amos Yoder who prepped two of the top-selling horses of all time. We chatted about what it takes to prep a $100,000 horse, what to look for when selecting a prospect to take to a sale and so much more! | |||
| #3 A Trio of Legends - Craig Grange, Dale McMain & Jim Rupple | 23 Feb 2021 | 00:58:10 | |
We sat down with a trio of legends while we were in Ocala for the Grandview Invitational a couple of weeks ago. Craig, Dale, and Jim were full of advice, had lots of stories, and made us laugh the whole time. We hope you all enjoy this episode as much as we did! It's always interesting to hear stories from the "good ole days" and to learn from the guys who paved the way for so many in the draft horse industry. | |||
| #2 Fred Rovenolt - Rejuvenating the Series | 10 Feb 2021 | 00:54:47 | |
We had a blast sitting down with Fred Rovenolt while we were in Ocala, FL. We went way back to the beginning of the Classic Series and talked about everything from showing horses to family to toilet paper. Please pardon some of the background noise as we recorded this episode right in the barn! | |||
| #1 Let's Get this Show on the Road! | 24 Jan 2021 | 00:59:08 | |
Join us in our inaugural podcast as Jarron chats with Mark, Kyle, Kevin, Kellie, and Abby about all things involved with the Classic Series. The conversations discussed in this episode include upcoming sales and shows, youth scholarship funds, COVID updates and so much more! | |||
| #123 The Show Office - Ron Mack & Chelsea Ball, Marissa Cush & Nancy Jeske | 28 May 2025 | 01:45:38 | |
In this episode, Kyle and Mark are joined by Ron Mack and Chelsea Ball from the Ohio State Fair, Marissa Cush with the Wilmington Classic, and Nancy Jeske, who brings a wealth of experience in both light horse and draft horse shows. We’re talking all things draft horse—what it really takes to put on a show, the unique challenges behind the scenes, and why it’s all worth it when the teams hit the ring. From heavy lifting (literally) to proud traditions, this roundtable gets into the grit and the heart of managing these unforgettable events. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #123!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #122 Clydesdales & A Unique Opportunity - Richard Derrer | 14 May 2025 | 01:49:35 | |
Kyle and Mark sit down with Richard Derrer, a seasoned farrier whose career has taken him from the cornfields of Indiana where he exhibited one of the all-time premier Clydesdale hitches to the high deserts of New Mexico where he continues his farrier career and cheers on his boys. Whether you're a horse lover, a fellow farrier, or just here for the stories, pull up a stool. You’re in for a good one. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #122!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #121 Different Size. Same Goal - Bret Day | 23 Apr 2025 | 01:20:52 | |
In this episode, Mark and Kyle sit down with Bret Day of Grey Ridge Farm—renowned trainer and horseman—to dive into the nuanced world of horse training. Bret shares his firsthand experience working with light horses. From finesse and agility to sheer strength and presence, we explore what it takes to bring out the best in each type of horse. Whether you’re a seasoned trainer, an aspiring horseman, or just a fan of the equine world, this conversation is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #121!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #120 Welcome to the Team - Sayge Madsen, Executive Director | 09 Apr 2025 | 01:10:38 | |
Exciting news — the Classic Series has officially welcomed a new full-time executive director! Kyle and Mark recently sat down with Sayge Madsen to give her a chance to introduce herself to the draft horse community. She shared her background and gave us a glimpse into her vision for the future. Join us in giving Sayge a warm welcome to the team! PLUS enjoy another PENNWOODS PERSPECTIVE with Chris Cole! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #120!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #119 Not Your Average History Lesson - Dean Woodbury, Brian Coleman, & Alan Freitag | 26 Mar 2025 | 01:46:30 | |
Let's take a deep dive into the history, the legends, and the unforgettable moments of the draft horse industry. In this episode, Kyle and Mark are joined by three mainstays of the sport—Dean Woodbury, Brian Coleman, and Alan Freitag—for a conversation that’s like a draft horse history lesson. These horsemen have seen it all, from the greatest hitches of the past to the teams that set the standard for excellence. Get ready for stories, insights, and a look back at what made these hitches so successful. Whether you're a lifelong draft horse enthusiast or just getting started, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #119!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #118 A Twelve Year Old Farrier - Dean & Kelly Woodbury | 12 Mar 2025 | 01:03:43 | |
Kyle and Mark had the privilege of sitting down with two of the best in the business—Dean and Kelly Woodbury of Winchester, Indiana. With a lifetime of experience in the draft horse world, their passion and dedication have made them household names in the industry. Currently at the reins of the Blue Ribbon Days Percherons, Dean and Kelly continue to set the standard for excellence in the show ring and beyond. But their journey started long before this—growing up with draft horses, learning the ropes from a young age, and building a legacy of hard work, horsemanship, and success. So, sit back and enjoy as we talk with Dean and Kelly about their experiences, the evolution of the draft horse industry, and what it takes to compete at the highest levels. You won’t want to miss this! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #118!
Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us any comments or questions to the Rinehold Tack & Western Wear mailbag at podcast@naclassicseries.com! | |||
| #135 2025 Board of Directors Candidates | 08 Oct 2025 | 01:16:37 | |
It’s that time of year again—election season for our Board of Directors! In this episode, Kyle sits down with the five candidates running for two open spots: Dr. Stacie Wells-Kiefer, Scott Seymour, Ray Houston, Scott Love, and Tim Meyers. Tune in to hear their thoughts, ideas, and why they’re hoping to earn your vote. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #135!
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